Time Nick Message 00:00 drojf rangi: what would be a good example function to look at for putting the code into a module and getting it working from the template then? 00:03 rangi well here's waht i would do 00:03 rangi in opac-detail.pl 00:04 rangi after if ( C4::Context->preference("HTML5MediaEnabled") ) { 00:04 rangi $template = populate_html5($template); 00:04 rangi } 00:04 rangi and the in a module somewhere 00:05 rangi sub populate_html5 { 00:05 rangi my $template = shift; 00:05 rangi do all that stuff 00:05 rangi return $template; 00:05 rangi } 00:05 rangi now youre template variable in opac-detail.pl has all the params for html5 set 00:05 rangi your even 00:06 rangi that make sense? 00:06 drojf that does not sound very complicated 00:06 drojf yes 00:06 rangi nope 00:06 drojf i will try that, thanks 00:06 rangi cool 00:06 drojf but now it's bedtime. 2am again :/ 00:06 drojf good night 00:06 rangi sleep well 00:07 drojf thanks :) 00:49 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @ranginui: "@librarykris @catatonichic and then they can work on #kohails and meld librarianship, programming and maori culture :)" 00:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #94: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/94/ 00:56 jenkins_koha robin: Bug 8235 - allow a whitelist of modules that aren't in Debian 00:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8235 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Packaging scripts get upset with non-Debian perl modules 02:46 dcook If a hold is placed for a Not For Loan item (i.e. the holds policy has been over-ridden) and the item is checked in, no Hold found dialog appears. Instead, it seems says "Item not checked out". 02:47 dcook I'm not certain how common this workflow would be, but it has been pointed out by a librarian and it does seem inconsistent with regular hold behaviour. 02:47 dcook Am I missing something or is this a genuine bug? 02:48 jcamins_away That's the correct behavior. 02:48 jcamins_away Otherwise, it would notify for holds if someone dropped a reference copy of a popular book in the return slot. 02:48 dcook If there were a hold on it 02:49 jcamins_away Right. 02:49 dcook Which there could be, if the librarians decide to allow a hold on that item 02:49 jcamins_away If there were not a hold on it, it wouldn't be a problem, but we wouldn't expect any sort of notification. ;) 02:50 dcook Ordinarily 02:51 dcook I suppose the constant putting of holds on a reference item is seen as quite exceptional 02:51 jcamins_away Or if there are two copies of the book, one of which is not for loan and one of which is. 02:51 jcamins_away (this is a very common configuration, at least here in the States) 02:52 jcamins_away Yes. 02:52 jcamins_away If you're putting holds specifically on reference books, that's probably a sign that you have your circulation rules configured wrong. 02:52 dcook I was just thinking that 02:52 jcamins_away (where wrong = not the way you want them to work) 02:52 dcook I bet that's exactly what's happening 02:53 jcamins_away Explain to them (again, probably;) that itemtype != genre, it's just one of the criteria used for circ rules. 02:53 dcook We don't have many academic clients, but for my own curiousity...how does Koha handle "reserve"/course materials 02:53 jcamins_away And, having imparted that wisdom (?) I think I'll get some sleep. 02:53 jcamins_away It doesn't. 02:53 dcook I suppose that would be an item type.. 02:53 jcamins_away Yup. 02:54 dcook Hehe, thanks jcamins 02:54 dcook Get some rest! 02:54 jcamins_away You just set the circ rules to match how you think reserves should work, and you're done. 02:54 jcamins_away Good night. (morning for you, I guess) 02:55 dcook Nearly 1pm. Time for some lunch :D 02:55 dcook 'night 03:03 mtj hmm, any idea about this error.... 03:03 mtj $ perl -c Koha/SearchEngine/Zebra/Search.pm 03:03 mtj Can't locate Data/SearchEngine/Zebra.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/mason/git/head /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at Koha/SearchEngine/Zebra/Search.pm line 5. 03:03 mtj BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Koha/SearchEngine/Zebra/Search.pm line 5. 03:04 mtj looks like Koha/SearchEngine/Zebra/Search.pm refers to a file that does not exist... 03:04 mtj namely -> Data/SearchEngine/Zebra.pm 03:07 dcook Hmm 03:13 dcook I know very little about perl modules themselves, but perl -c Koha/SearchEngine/Zebra.pm works, despite saying "extends 'Data::SearchEngine::Zebra';" 03:14 mtj my hunch its a non-koha perl module, written by biblibre - that hasnt been published? 03:18 dcook Mmm, I'm not sure 03:19 mtj logged bug 8423 :) 03:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8423 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha/SearchEngine/Zebra/Search.pm fails 'perl -c' test 03:20 dcook Do you know hdl? 03:20 wahanui well, hdl is saying, who when where, how. 03:20 dcook Ahh, I see 03:21 dcook http://meetings.koha-community.org/2010/koha.2010-12-07-20.00.log.txt 03:23 * dcook returns to what he was actually doing, lol 03:25 mtj meh, the error is already reported 03:26 mtj in bug 8233 03:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8233 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , New search engine layer - introduce solr without breaking anything else 03:28 dcook I like the "without breaking anything else" bit :p 03:29 dcook Now if only I could stop finding/fixing bugs related to old versions of IE... 03:29 mtj ah, theres an easy fix for that... ;) 03:30 dcook It's only 1:30pm here. It's a bit early... 03:35 dcook And now I can't reproduce the behaviour that was just happening a few minutes ago...:S 03:41 dcook Hmm...not IE specific at all, but very sporadic...:S 03:46 Amit_Gupta hi koha 03:47 dcook hi Amit :) 03:48 Amit_Gupta heya dcook 03:53 Amit_Gupta heya cait 03:53 cait hi Amit_Gupta 04:21 Amit_Gupta seems http://git.koha-community.org/ not working 04:29 mtj Amit_Gupta: there is a mirror-repo here -> https://github.com/Koha-Community 05:58 * dcook_away glares at Acquisitions 05:59 dcook Does anyone actually use Acquisitions to keep track of finances? The way it handles tax makes zero sense. 05:59 dcook No pun intended.. 05:59 cait heh 05:59 cait there is a bug waiting for sign off 05:59 cait I think you would make some people very happy for looking into it 05:59 dcook 5335? 05:59 wahanui i think 5335 is conflicting too :( 06:00 cait bug 5335 06:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , More granular VAT 06:00 dcook *shudder8 06:00 cait exactly that yes 06:00 cait yeah it's big 06:00 cait but it would be good to get started on it 06:00 cait especially because taxes might work differently in different countries 06:00 cait so we should get some opinions if it covers everything correctly 06:01 dcook True enough 06:02 dcook I think I might be missing a few angles on it as well.. 06:02 cait I am not sure where to start with it too... 06:02 cait maybe a wiki page with tests? 06:02 dcook I've had librarians tell me that they indicate that they want no tax applies but that it is still being applied 06:02 dcook But I don't even see how you would do that aside from the gist syspref :S 06:02 cait I always suspected problems in there... 06:02 rangi dcook: the vendor 06:02 cait but we didn't get reports from a library so far 06:03 cait dcook: yep - the vendor 06:03 rangi you have 2 radio buttons 06:03 dcook Mmm, nice one rangi 06:03 rangi invoice includes tax 06:03 cait and ideally it would beon order line level too - because we have different taxes fr different type of media... 06:03 rangi listprice includes tax 06:03 dcook Although... 06:03 cait I think the vat one might enable that 06:03 rangi yep we did that for hlt im pretty sure cjh submitted it 06:03 rangi and discount on orderline 06:04 cait hm, I think there was a problem with one of his patches, becaue hlt does not have to pay tax 06:04 cait the whole tax thing is a bit scary to me 06:04 cait because I am not 100% sure how we want it to work 06:04 cait and hat makes testing nearly impossible 06:06 dcook Exactly 06:08 cait but that way... it just sits there 06:08 cait which is also not good 06:08 wahanui okay, cait. 06:08 cait lol 06:08 cait forget which is 06:08 cait we should at least start discussion to figure out how it should work 06:08 cait so we can start testing 06:09 rangi and test plans 06:09 cait correct 06:09 rangi and specs of how it was designed to work 06:09 cait francharb put something on the wiki I think 06:09 cait and send notes about the terms 06:09 cait I think he would be happy to answer questions too 06:09 rangi yup 06:09 rangi linking all that in would be good if you can find it 06:10 cait I think we might need a table 06:10 cait with math 06:10 cait *shudder* 06:10 cait for the different settings in the vendor 06:10 cait how should the price be calculated for each 06:10 dcook How the gist syspref figures in as well 06:11 rangi gist is the default 06:11 cait ^^ 06:11 cait vendor overwrites it 06:11 rangi you can override it on per vendor basis 06:11 cait and oderline should overwrite vendor later (I think) 06:11 rangi eg amazon, you dont pay gst on 06:11 cait hm we do 06:11 rangi we dont 06:11 cait yeah, that's exactly what I meant earlier... 06:11 rangi thats why its on the vendor level 06:11 cait have to be careful with that 06:12 cait we have different taxes for electronic media, newspapers and books 06:12 dcook This is the kind of thing that would be good to document 06:12 rangi we dont pay gst on imported goods under a certain cost 06:12 rangi the only way to do it is to set that up on a per vendor basis 06:13 rangi you can not have any sane system that works for all 06:13 dcook Question... 06:13 wahanui i heard question was "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" 06:13 cait so we need an insane system? ;) 06:13 rangi no 06:13 rangi we need to stop trying 06:13 rangi and realise that you need a lot of configuration options 06:13 * dcook O_o 06:14 cait ok, configuration 06:14 wahanui somebody said configuration was not so hard 06:14 rangi before it can work for everyone 06:14 rangi also, hlt have never failed an audit in 12 years, lets not make next year the first 06:14 rangi ie, DONT BREAK IT MORE 06:14 rangi :) 06:14 cait yeah, that would be bad :( 06:15 cait but i really think it does some wonky things currently that shoudl be fixed 06:15 cait and ideally in a way that at least it kinda works the same on all pages 06:15 cait because right now it's just very confusing 06:15 rangi one persons wonky is another persons working exactly how it should 06:15 rangi assuming somethign is broken and fixing it, is how we got here 06:15 cait can we agree on consistency? :) 06:15 rangi no 06:15 rangi thats the point 06:16 rangi we can agree on it needs to work inconsistently 06:16 cait I meant like the list price being calculated for the same settings the same on dfferentpages 06:16 rangi and that configuration should allow you to do that 06:16 cait that kind of consistency 06:17 cait there was a spreadsheet from jransom on the wiki on a bug 06:17 dcook Mmm, I've been of the same mind as cait 06:17 cait for taxes 06:17 cait where she reported it worked wrong 06:17 dcook Calculations seem to vary from page to page :S 06:17 cait I really didn't understand it 06:17 cait to me it looked all wrong 06:17 cait *sigh* 06:17 cait I really think it needs some work currently - but not sure where to start! 06:23 alex_a1 bonjour 06:24 dcook bonjour alex_a1 06:24 cait hi alex_a 06:25 rangi hi alex_a1 06:28 * rangi goes to eat bbiab 06:29 alex_a1 hi rangi and cait 06:36 reiveune hello 06:37 Amit_Gupta heya alex_a1 06:42 marcelr good morning #koha 06:45 cait hi marcelr :) 06:49 cait of course... when I have to get to work it starts raining 06:49 cait ... 06:49 cait bbl :) 06:49 dcook ttyl :) 06:53 gaetan_B hello :) 06:53 dcook hey gaetan_B :) 07:01 francharb hello #koha 07:02 rangi back 07:04 dcook wb rangi 07:04 rangi thanks 07:06 rangi dcook: wanna learn about git bisect? 07:08 rangi it will help you track down the exact commit that is causing the behaviour 07:08 dcook Sure. That would be fab 07:08 dcook P.S. I was going to say that before you mentioned the sweet part ;) 07:09 rangi :) 07:10 rangi ok, so what you do is checkout the commit where it worked 07:11 rangi git checkout commitid 07:11 rangi then git bisect start 07:11 rangi verify it still works 07:11 rangi git bisect good 07:12 rangi git checkout a commit when you know it doesnt work, eg 07:12 rangi git checkout v3.08.02 07:12 rangi verify it doesnt 07:12 rangi git bisect bad 07:12 rangi then git will check one out for you, verify again, if it works, git bisect good 07:12 rangi if not bad 07:12 rangi keep doing that it, and it will get to the commit that caused the issue 07:13 dcook Intriguing...I'm going to give it a whirl 07:13 dcook Thanks, rangi :) 07:14 dcook I wonder if it ever worked though.. 07:14 dcook Oh wait... 07:14 dcook *facepalm* 07:14 dcook I don't think it ever advanced the barcode after adding the item, but yes...the duplicate message... 07:16 rangi hey kf 07:17 kf hi rangi :) 07:36 dcook Hmmm, not quite sure what to do with the results of this git bisect 07:36 kf what did it say? 07:36 Amit_Gupta heya kf 07:36 dcook The warning appears when I got back to Bug 3414, but it still wasn't appearing the step before at Bug 7249 07:36 kf hi Amit_Gupta 07:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3414 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, gcollum, RESOLVED FIXED, Invalid XHMTL in parcels.tmpl and general cleanup of html needed. 07:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Report webservices 07:36 dcook I assume there are commits inbetween that I'm missing? 07:37 rangi how are you doing it? 07:37 kf sorry, confused 07:37 rangi afret your first good and bad, you dont check things out anymore 07:37 rangi you just say git bisect good 07:37 rangi or git bisect bad 07:37 dcook Yeah, that's how I reached that point 07:37 rangi and git picks you a new one 07:37 dcook 7249 was bad 07:37 dcook Then the git picked 3414 07:37 rangi and its good? 07:37 dcook Which was good 07:37 rangi so do git bisect good 07:38 rangi and get another one 07:38 dcook Mmm 07:38 rangi keep doing it until it stops giving you new commits 07:38 dcook Crucial step. Great :) 07:41 dcook Hmm, seems 7249 is the bad one 07:41 kf bug 7249 07:41 wahanui hmmm... bug 7249 is particularly cool. 07:41 rangi whats the commit sha ? 07:42 kf bug 7249? 07:42 wahanui rumour has it bug 7249 is particularly cool 07:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Report webservices 07:42 dcook 24213703d5906d4bfff1a8e1c9e079bd11523ba7 07:42 kf hm, completely different area 07:44 rangi yeah, not sure how that could do it 07:44 kf what did git bisect say? 07:45 dcook 24213703d5906d4bfff1a8e1c9e079bd11523ba7 is the first bad commit 07:45 dcook But yeah...no idea how 07:45 kf hmmm 07:45 kf what if the problem is realted to javascript? 07:45 kf are there errors on the page? 07:45 kf and maybe it was still in the cache? 07:45 dcook I figure it's likely a js issue 07:45 dcook Since I think the data validation is done by js 07:46 dcook The problem is that newer versions of koha aren't picking up barcode duplications in item records made during an order 07:47 kf yeah, I am a bit suspicious that we got the wrong commit 07:47 kf does reverting it fix the issue for you? 07:48 dcook Haven't tried yet 07:51 dcook Hmm, couldn't revert it 07:51 dcook Or at least I have errors shooting up 07:53 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @andisugandi: "Masalah 2 bulan kemarin itu ternyata penyebabnya sepele: http://t.co/warv9Lq6 *doh!* *tepok jidat* =P | #Koha #KohaILS #idzebra #daemon" 07:55 kf hm sorry 07:55 kf not sure how to resolve :( 07:57 dcook I suppose I can always redo the bisect 07:57 dcook I just tried now, and sure enough ...it works fine in 7249 07:57 dcook I must've made a mistake the first time around...there was a lot of clicking O_O 07:58 dcook Blahhh...it's 6...time for food or study or...something other than bugs :P 07:59 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @andisugandi: "Ada bukunya juga ya? http://t.co/AYOoa3FP *ya iya lah!* =)) #barutahu | #Koha #KohaILS" 07:59 kf dcook: I think you ahve to make sure the js is reloaded and not cached 07:59 kf each time 07:59 kf so you are sure it works/doesn'twork 08:00 dcook Any tips? :) 08:00 kf hm I think there it's something like shift + f5... or similar 08:01 kf there is a short cut I always forget to make it reload the js when refreshing the page 08:02 dcook Hmm 08:02 dcook I think Shift + click refresh might do it 08:02 dcook And I was doing that... 08:02 dcook I might've missed one or two times though 08:05 kf sorry 08:05 kf forgot a meeting 08:08 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @daemonnetwork: "Masalah 2 bulan kemarin itu ternyata penyebabnya sepele: http://t.co/HMHd6wLs *doh!* *tepok jidat* =P | #Koha #KohaILS #idzebra #daemon R..." 08:14 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @andisugandi: "Tutorial tambahan, cukup lengkap: http://t.co/wwNhT4HL ↠Terlihat sekali, tutorialnya dilakukan di komputer #openSUSE .. =) | #Koha #KohaILS" 09:31 eythian http://youtu.be/rqTE-ig7NhY <-- the insulting librarian 09:37 drojf lol 09:40 paul_p hello eythian ! 09:40 eythian hiya 09:40 paul_p how are things in germany ? (cold I think) 09:40 eythian I'm still in Brighton. Cold and wet :) 09:40 eythian @wunder brighton, uk 09:40 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 16.6°C (10:30 AM BST on July 12, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 09:41 drojf but i can confirm germany iy grey, cold, wet :) 09:41 eythian not too bad right now 09:41 paul_p @wunder Marseille, france 09:41 drojf is 09:41 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 25.0°C (11:30 AM CEST on July 12, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). 09:41 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 09:41 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 17.9°C (11:12 AM CEST on July 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 09:41 eythian that's a bit warmer 09:41 paul_p very hard to decide staying in Brighton or coming to Marseille :D :D :D 09:42 eythian well, I bet the beer here is better ;) 09:42 paul_p eythian = 2 days ago, with my wife, we took a boat, and swimmed in the see. Last sunday, dinner on the beach, this lunch wife and children on the beach. Hard times here ;-) 09:42 paul_p eythian = here you'll have Pastis !!! 09:43 drojf paul_p: have you seen my post about your plack stats on koha-devel? 09:43 paul_p drojf yep. I just had nothing to add 09:43 drojf paul_p: do you know if you had swap enabled? 09:43 paul_p drojf I think so, but, with 2GB on my laptop, it's usually unused 09:44 drojf paul_p: ok then i wonder about your "all at once" numbers still 09:44 eythian paul_p: that stuff looks a bit concerning :) 09:44 gaetan_B eythian: o/ 09:44 eythian hiya gaetan_B 09:44 gaetan_B eythian: it's very likely that i won't be in Marseille this saturday evening in the end ! So paul_p will take care of you i guess ! 09:45 paul_p eythian = in this case, the best option is that I'll pick you at the airport = i'll be in my bed sooner ! 09:45 eythian ah, good to know. 09:46 eythian paul_p: sounds good :) yeah, it wasn't until yesterday that I realised the flights are at a not-so-great time. 09:47 paul_p eythian = plus, you'll be one of the first going into my new car (got it yesterday) 09:47 eythian ohh :) 09:48 paul_p eythian = with no extra charge, of course 09:48 eythian even better! 09:49 eythian hmm, French ciders rate highly. 10:25 rangi hmm no jonathan eh? 10:41 * kf_mtg waves 10:41 kf paul_p: take good care of eythian - I will get him after you ;) 11:14 drojf1 kf: second hand eythian? 11:14 eythian naw, just going foster home to foster home :) 11:14 drojf1 heh 11:15 kf drojf: more like third hand eythian.... 11:15 kf drojf: I really hope he will be in good condition still... 11:15 kf ;) 11:18 drojf who knows, after france… "eythian, vg-, stains of cheese and pastis on the cover" :D 11:18 kf vg-? :) 11:19 kf lol 11:35 drojf more thunderstorm coming up. interesting summer again this year 11:35 eythian yeah, we had that yesterday 11:36 Amit_Gupta heya eythian, drojf 11:36 eythian hello Amit_Gupta 11:36 drojf hi Amit_Gupta 11:37 drojf eythian: we had that almost every day now, for two weeks or something 11:38 eythian ah, fun 11:38 drojf from inside it's nice :) 11:38 eythian it's OK, paul_p has promised me good weather in Marseille :) 11:38 drojf yeah, you better really stay in southern parts of germany then too 11:40 drojf [off] can i make diffs of doc files? i hate it when people send me "updates" of stuff but don't indicate what the updates are. maybe i just copy it in a text file 11:40 eythian drojf: if change tracking is on you can see them 11:40 eythian (LO can work with these, I've done it before) 11:42 drojf LO says it would show them, but i don't see anything so i suppose it's not used by the person that sent it 12:04 * oleonard sees tweetbot` is back. New and improved? 12:06 nengard @later tell jcamins does the new authority linker run when you import authorities via the command line and/or when you batch import marc records - basically, I'm asking if we need to run the linker manually after doing an authority or marc record import 12:06 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded. 12:07 kf nengard: yes 12:07 eythian nengard: when doing it from the command line, I think that is the case. I'm not sure about the web interface, but probably. 12:08 kf knowing jared it's probably in the documentation somewhere too 12:08 * eythian begins a 3.4->3.8 upgrade. 12:08 nengard yes I have to run the linker after doing imports? 12:08 kf yes 12:08 nengard okey dokey 12:08 nengard so ?.. now i have an enhancement request / problem 12:09 Amit_Gupta heya nengard 12:09 nengard regular users can't manually run the linker 12:09 nengard so that means that we have to run it for them after every import 12:09 nengard of marc records 12:09 nengard hi Amit 12:09 kf hm 12:09 kf I am not sure for the staged marc import 12:10 kf yu might want to wait for jared's answer about that 12:10 nengard well I'm hoping not for the marc import :) 12:10 nengard will do 12:13 eythian http://media.jehaisleprintemps.net/talks/baguetteonsnails/ <-- paul_p_ 12:32 jcamins nengard: you have to run the linker manually after importing authority records. 12:33 nengard what about after importing marc? 12:34 jcamins It depends. 12:34 jcamins If you import using the stage MARC tool, it will link. 12:34 jcamins bulkmarcimport is considered harmful. 12:34 eythian I consider it my most used script :) 12:37 jcamins eythian: it does an end run around all error checkign... suitable for migrations, not for regular use. 12:37 eythian yeah 12:47 * eythian prepares to delete a production database, having taken about 20 backups first... 12:48 jcamins Yikes! 12:48 eythian fixing the MyISAM issue I was having. 12:48 marcelr hi jcamins 12:48 eythian but it requires dropping everything and reloading the fixed database in. 12:49 jcamins Good morning. 12:49 marcelr jcamins: what about your report on opac auth search? 12:51 jcamins marcelr: my personal opinion has always been that authority search in the OPAC was wrong, and should match the functioning search on the Intranet. 12:52 jcamins The reason I did not change it from the start is that clearly someone disagreed, since a great deal of code went into making it inconsistent. 12:52 eythian ...and just realised I'd loaded the wrong schema version. Surprised that didn't explode on me. 12:52 eythian easy to fix at least 12:52 jcamins eythian: it'll just upgrade 12:52 eythian jcamins: no, I loaded a 3.4 into a 3.8 schema 12:53 jcamins Oh. Hm. 12:53 eythian It'll take about 10 minutes to redo with the right one, so not a big issue 12:53 marcelr jcamins: some time ago these searches were dropped; do not know where that came from 12:55 kf1 I tend to agree with marcel 12:55 jcamins marcelr: you'd consider that evidence that the alternate indexes are no longer wanted? :) 12:55 kf1 I don't see why it should be different 12:56 jcamins Hm. 12:56 marcelr jcamins: no i would have liked to keep them 12:57 marcelr but i think that opac and staff could be the same 12:57 jcamins marcelr: I mean, you'd consider that evidence that the alternate indexes can be replaced by the "normal" indexes? 12:57 marcelr well, why should we have them different? 12:58 jcamins I don't think we should, but the git log had indistinct notes about needing separate indexes for the OPAC, as I recall. 12:58 marcelr ok, i should look that up 12:58 jcamins Let me see if I can find it. 13:02 jcamins Hm. 13:02 jcamins I'm not coming across it now, but I remember seeing it when I was working on bug 7284. 13:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, Authority matching algorithm improvements 13:03 marcelr well, i try a search too 13:04 jcamins However, I'm happy to do a follow-up that changes the indexes, so that if paul_p disagrees, he can just not push the follow-up. 13:05 marcelr did he disagree ? is there a unimarc problem involved? 13:06 jcamins No, but he's one of the only people still around who would remember why it was necessary to have different sets of indexes. 13:07 jcamins (rangi and hdl might too, but I don't think many of the people who wrote the original indexing are still working on Koha) 13:08 marcelr if we now add corresponding indexes, we add functionality (back) and harm nobody? 13:09 eythian kf1: why do your emails end with 'J'? 13:09 kf1 because oulook is stupid 13:09 eythian e.g.: "...I only think we should stop it from happening in the first place J" 13:09 kf1 it's a smiley 13:09 kf1 :) 13:09 kf1 like this 13:09 kf1 I forgot to tell it to send as text - sorry! 13:09 jcamins kf1: is that why so many people end their e-mails with J! 13:10 marcelr jcamins: if you look at my questions, i was also wondering if some of these indexes are actually used.. 13:10 kf1 jcamins: I guess so 13:10 kf1 annoying. 13:11 jcamins Any = real keyword 13:11 eythian I think I'm viewing it in HTML 13:11 eythian there is also a text part 13:11 eythian <span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span> 13:11 jcamins Match/match-heading = all heading forms (in MARC21, 1xx, 4xx, and 5xx) 13:11 eythian I probably don't have wingdings 13:12 kf ah, then it' because you don't have wingdings? 13:12 kf anyway, it's weird it replaces it with wingdings in the first place. 13:12 eythian I have webdings, but in that it's a small desert island 13:12 jcamins Heading-main = main entry, can't search subfields (1xx $a) 13:13 jcamins Heading = main entry, can search subfields (1xx) 13:13 marcelr was that the point staff looking in subfields and public not or so? 13:15 jcamins I don't think so, because the staff client defaults to not searching subfields. 13:16 marcelr what is the use of staff using Heading-Main ? why not Heading? 13:16 jcamins I don't know. 13:17 jcamins It's well documented in the interface that that's how it works, though. 13:18 marcelr in the manual? 13:18 jcamins I think maybe it has to do with UNIMARC? 13:18 jcamins No, actually in the interface. 13:18 jcamins It's easy to miss, but if you go to the authority search, it says "($a only)" 13:18 marcelr ok see it now 13:18 marcelr :) 13:18 eythian I think you mean "<span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span>", marcelr 13:19 marcelr no 13:19 marcelr ;) 13:19 jcamins Hehe. 13:20 marcelr jcamins: we/you could raise the point on dev list ? 13:21 jcamins Sure. 13:21 marcelr if we get rid of grs, it will become at least easier again 13:21 marcelr now we have too much options 13:22 marcelr marc unimarc grs dom etc. 13:22 eythian > libhtml-template-pro-perl was installed automatically; it is being removed because all of the packages which depend upon it are being removed 13:22 eythian :D 13:22 jcamins Agreed. 13:22 jcamins eythian: yay! 14:55 eythian http://www.cakewrecks.com/storage/thumbnails/10710906-19236560-thumbnail.jpg 15:18 gaetan_B bye ! 15:18 eythian bye! 15:31 Morthland Hey, 15:32 Morthland I need some help configuring Koha to send emails via gmail. 15:32 eythian http://blog.jonloh.net/11/04/2010/postfix-gmail-smtp-relay-ubuntu <-- Morthland 15:33 eythian Koha doesn't use an SMTP server, it just uses the server's local mail system, and that passes it along. 15:34 Morthland How can I trigger Koha to send an email? 15:34 Morthland I just don't know how to test. 15:34 eythian send a cart to yourself, or something like that. 15:34 Morthland Using the Opac? 15:35 eythian set an account to get notified when things are checked out, and check out books. 15:35 eythian yeah 15:36 Morthland then do I have to run process_message_queue? 15:36 eythian probably 15:36 eythian I can't remember if carts go through that or not. 15:37 Morthland I think that using the method I am now with nullmailer, 15:37 Morthland I define my username in that script 15:37 oleonard carts don't go through the message queue 15:37 Morthland So then, that email wont work 15:37 kf eythian: they do not 15:38 kf ah, oleonard was faster :) 15:38 eythian ah yes, I was writing a patch to make them do that actually 15:38 kf yep, and asked if you also did the account mail, because that's the only one we don't want to go there, or at least not without anonymizing it (passwords) 15:38 eythian yeah 15:38 eythian need to finish that 15:43 Morthland I will try the method you linked to me 15:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8268 follow-up: incorporate QA comments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8affddc52db84d0da95b5460fbe8d2a1a1e34942> / Bug 8268: Add database dump to export tool <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbcb1d784b38d129a5fa41aa9f3dc7b798c25c9c> / Bug 5327 : Follow up for TTParser test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f12a40af69f461098 15:44 maximep hourly loans are in 3.8.2, right ? 15:45 wizzyrea yep 15:45 maximep is there any tutorial/guide on how they work ? 15:45 maximep I must be missing something :S 15:47 kf sorry, i haven't tested them yet really :( 15:48 maximep :( 15:49 maximep our database is a progably a complete mess. There is a database structure site somewhere where I could compare ? 15:49 maximep forgot the name :S 15:49 maximep ah, http://schema.koha-community.org/ 15:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #782 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 8 days 0 hr ago) 15:59 maximep seriously fml. It will take so many hours to switch from our hourly loan system to this one :/ 15:59 kf :( 16:03 wizzyrea aw 16:05 jcamins maximep: you have a custom hourly loans system? 16:06 maximep yes 16:06 maximep since 3.2 16:06 maximep still haven't figured out how the one in 3.8 works :S 16:06 wizzyrea you use the circulation rules 16:07 * jcamins tries to to say "told you so." 16:07 jcamins *not to say 16:08 maximep ok, just set a circulation rule in hours as the unit 16:08 maximep then how do I checkout with a due date in hours ? 16:08 jcamins maximep: if you create a new circulation rule, you can choose to do it in hours instead of days. 16:09 jcamins maximep: I actually haven't used hourly loans at all, but I think if your circulation rule is set, you just check the item out the usual way. 16:09 nengard jcamins is right 16:10 nengard just check it out and the rule should make it due in X number of hours 16:10 wizzyrea yea, ez pz 16:11 maximep hmmm so I set today as the due date 16:11 jcamins You know what the problem with blackberries is? 16:11 jcamins The seeds refuse to be blended by the immersion blender. 16:13 oleonard And they're hard to type on after they've been through the blender. 16:14 jcamins oleonard: that, too. 16:14 nengard maximep you don't set the due date at all - just scan the barcode and submit 16:14 oleonard Making a smoothie jcamins? 16:14 nengard just the way you do for daily loans 16:15 jcamins oleonard: yup. 16:16 maximep well i was going to ask a followup question :S 16:18 reiveune bye 16:19 wizzyrea go ahead and ask maxime 16:19 wizzyrea maximep* 16:20 jcamins rhcl++ 16:21 maximep aaaaaah, ok, I now understand. Took me a while :S 16:21 maximep a bit more magic than what i'm used to 16:25 oleonard New Koha tagline: "More magic than you're used to!" 16:25 maximep haha 16:27 wizzyrea @quote add New Koha tagline: "More magic than you're used to!" 16:27 huginn wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 16:27 wizzyrea bother. 16:27 wizzyrea @quote get 23 16:27 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) 16:28 wizzyrea @quote add New Koha tagline: "More magic than you're used to!" 16:28 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #209 added. 16:28 wizzyrea take that! 16:31 * oleonard wonders if other libraries have rules about what collection codes can be used with certain item types 16:31 jcamins @quote get 123 16:31 huginn jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 16:31 jcamins Hmmm... 16:31 jcamins That would mean "yes." 16:32 oleonard The infinite escalation inherent in that rule implies that libraries are doing some really crazy stuff 16:33 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @27point7: "very interesting debate about the rythm & methodology of koha development http://t.co/liZHVMLJ #kohails #fb" 16:34 SJeffery oleonard: yes, yes we are *evil/crazy laugh* 16:39 * cait waves 16:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #782: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/782/ 16:54 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8203: Add ability to save individual authorities 16:54 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8203 follow-up: QA fixes 16:54 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8203 follow-up: fix MARCXML export for UNIMARC 16:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8203 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Should be possible to save individual authorities 16:54 jenkins_koha * duncan: Added coverage to unit test for TTParser 16:54 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Follow up for TTParser test 16:54 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8268: Add database dump to export tool 16:54 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8268 follow-up: incorporate QA comments 16:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules 16:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should offer way to backup entire db 16:54 jcamins Oh no! If the TTParser test breaks again, I'll get e-mails! 16:55 jcamins As will Duncan and rangi. 16:55 jcamins Speak of the devil. 16:56 jcamins Wait, these are old failures. 16:57 maximep what happens if you checkout something 1 hour before the library close and the loan period is set to 4 hours ? Hmmm is there closing hours in 3.8 ? 16:57 maximep forgot we also added this :/ 16:57 jcamins maximep: it's due on the middle of the night, which is an issue. 16:57 maximep hmmm so I wonder how the fines are calculated 16:58 maximep if it really sets the due date in 4 hours in all cases, this is a major flaw :S 16:59 jcamins I'm not 100% sure, but I think it does. 16:59 * paul_p leaves, with 22 mails to deal within inbox. Usually that's 40-50, so, it's a good day. Bye & see you tomorrow #koha 16:59 cait bye paul_p 17:00 cait maximep: it was in the spec initially 17:00 cait but I think it wasn't implemented so far 17:00 cait I think it would be a great addition - opening hours 17:00 jcamins Good grief. 17:00 jcamins I think every single record in this authority file is a duplicate. 17:00 cait if you already have the interface part, maybe you could try to contribute that part? (how to store them etc.) 17:00 cait hopefullly not my testing data? 17:00 jcamins And there are... uhhh... 17:01 jcamins Nope. 17:01 jcamins 186k. 17:02 jcamins Oh, drat. 17:02 jcamins I missed my chance to talk to clrh. 17:02 maximep yes we do have business_hours that are configurable in calendar/holiday page. 17:03 maximep we'll see what the client wants to do, but id really like to share that part 17:04 jcamins maximep: maybe if you point out to them that if they let you release it, they wouldn't be paying you to do all the work over? 17:04 maximep he knows 17:05 cait maximep: fingers crossed 17:05 maximep I already started to share our code as we rebase it for 3.8 17:05 cait :) 17:06 jcamins maximep: my fingers are crossed for you as well. 17:07 jcamins And my legs (can't cross my toes as they're too short;). 17:07 maximep no need, i'm doing fine =) 17:09 maximep are RFCs just plan before doing the work or should http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hourly_Loans_RFC be updated with what was done and what is left to do ? 17:09 jcamins maximep: the latter, I think. 17:09 jcamins I update RFCs as I find that my plans changed. 17:09 cait yeah, it owuld be good to update it to reflect what is there and what is missing 17:32 sv how to export biblio from koha 2.0.0 in Marc Format 19:12 wizzyrea you can't change the default username for new users, right? 19:13 wizzyrea it's always first.last 19:13 wizzyrea is that right? 19:17 oleonard I don't know of a configuration option if that's what you mean wizzyrea 19:17 wizzyrea right, that's exactly what I mean - there's no syspref to say "Use xxxxxx as the default username for new patrons" 19:18 wizzyrea whether that's a field from borrowers or a combo thereof 19:18 wizzyrea I thought it was hardcoded to first.last. 19:19 jwagner wizzyrea, it's hardcoded in memberentry.pl 19:19 wizzyrea cool thx :) 19:42 bag thanks jcamins_away 20:16 sekjal exit 20:24 wizzyrea it would be awesome to integrate this with koha somehow: http://idreambooks.com/ 20:24 rangi morning 20:24 wizzyrea mornin 20:26 wizzyrea also, I really love that UI 20:26 rangi does it have an api? 20:26 wizzyrea sadly, it doesn't look like it >.< 20:26 wizzyrea we should pester them for one :P 20:27 * wizzyrea pesters 20:27 rangi yes you should :) 20:29 wizzyrea there, done pestered. 20:31 wizzyrea oh, but you could do something with the related links though 20:31 wizzyrea link to reviews based on a search 20:31 wizzyrea that could work. 20:33 drojf you could make dpavlin scrape the whole thing ;) 20:33 wizzyrea heh 20:34 * wizzyrea is not a sadist 20:36 wizzyrea for example: http://catalog-test.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=470483 20:37 wizzyrea click "read reviews on this title" 20:37 wizzyrea under more searches 20:39 rangi cool 20:39 wizzyrea not perfect, but still decent 20:39 rangi yup 20:40 drojf that more searches link list goes crazy when i click on "more searches" 20:40 wizzyrea define "crazy" 20:42 drojf when i open the link its all ok, i see the list. when i click in more searches, the list vanishes. when i click it again, it reappears but is too much left and a little to much up 20:42 drojf like a third of it is out of that box on the left side 20:43 wizzyrea yep it's a side effect of trying to force it not to be in a drop down. 20:43 wizzyrea on initial page load 20:43 drojf ok 20:43 wizzyrea I haven't figured out how to fix it yet 20:44 drojf but it's there so there is no need to click that anyway 20:45 wizzyrea I actually probably just need to get rid of "more searches" 20:45 wizzyrea and just show the list 20:45 drojf yes 20:53 rangi wow 20:53 rangi way to not make me want to work on your project 20:54 wizzyrea O.o 20:54 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6891#c13 20:54 huginn 04Bug 6891: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal 20:54 rangi If your goal is truly ILS openness and vendor independence, let's work together and make LDIF interoperability a reality! 20:54 rangi dude you work for a company that makes a proprietary ILS 20:55 rangi if you were truly about openness, release the source code for that 20:56 drojf i stopped at "We're not open-source, but we do strongly believe in open interchange: library data belongs to libraries, and shouldn't be used as a hostage to keep libraries chained to their automation systems." 20:56 drojf which is like the third sentence 20:56 rangi yeah 20:57 rangi open data is a fraud 20:57 rangi as are open api 20:57 rangi ask anyone who develops for twitter 20:57 rangi if you dont control the code, you control NOTHING 20:58 drojf "There are even Koha consortia which are charging their librarians multi-thousand dollar extraction fees just to get their own data out!" 20:58 drojf hm 20:58 drojf i can imagine one 21:00 wizzyrea does anyone know - does marking an item lost stop the overdue messages? 21:01 wizzyrea I admit I've never heard this question befoer 21:01 wizzyrea before* 21:02 drojf i don't know. but it would make sense if it did. 21:03 rangi it does 21:03 rangi because it returns it off the persons card 21:03 rangi and they get charged for it 21:03 wizzyrea ohhh right 21:05 * rangi does a quick reply to that bug report 21:05 wizzyrea what about missing? 21:05 rangi no idea 21:05 wizzyrea missing leaves it on the account 21:05 rangi yeah 21:05 rangi then you will still get overdues 21:05 rangi overdues looks purely at what is out 21:05 rangi it doesnt look at the item any closer than that 21:05 rangi so doesnt check if its lost, or missing, or whatever 21:06 rangi it just checks this is issued to someone, and it should have been returned by now 21:06 rangi yay bug 8268 21:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should offer way to backup entire db 21:06 wizzyrea gotya 21:06 wizzyrea YAY 21:06 trea YAY 21:06 rangi i should have put that in a link to the biblionix dude 21:07 drojf rangi: but it's not truly open if it is not in the format that makes import in his closed system easiest for him ;) 21:08 rangi :-) 21:08 rangi my comment wasnt too harsh eh? 21:08 drojf not for me it wasn't 21:09 rangi i mean robin did spend a bunch of time helping him with his schema earlier 21:10 rangi which means that coming in saying "If your goal is truly opennes .." makes you a bit of a prick 21:10 rangi imho 21:13 drojf and that coming from the guy with the closed system. hard to take that seriously 21:13 wizzyrea "please make it easier for me to convert your db" 21:13 drojf yes 21:13 wizzyrea erm… well… yea, that's fine yo. 21:15 rangi :) 21:16 rangi send a patch yo 21:16 wizzyrea hehehehe 21:16 rangi thats what i shoulda said 21:16 rangi comebacks they always get better after the fact :) 22:27 jcamins [off] Oh drat, did I miss the point of what he was saying? Oops. Too late now. 22:37 mtj [off] that Biblionix guy must think we are idiots... :/ 22:37 jcamins [off] I actually did understand, in case that was unclear. 22:38 rangi [off] yeah, either that or he really doesnt get it 22:40 mtj nah, he understands just fine 22:48 jcamins I'm helping!!!!! 22:48 rangi hehe 22:50 mtj ... the bug needs a "wow, great idea!. patches welcome, bye ..." reply 22:53 libsysguy developers will work for food not karma 22:53 jcamins [off] I thought asking for staff access to a demo was kind of a nice touch. 22:57 mustard OK, I've been sitting here stewing. At the risk of suffering great persecution I'll take the flip side of the coin for argument... 22:57 mustard I can always come up with a new nick I suppose... 22:57 jcamins lol 22:57 jcamins mustard: but you always sign in from the same IP. :P 22:58 mustard 1. There are more migrations from other ILSs to Koha than the reverse. Having a standard data export format would eventually benefit Koha at the expense of everybody else 22:58 mustard jcamins: you can route irc over tor 22:58 jcamins mustard: ooh, clever. 22:58 drojf then you are the one tor user :P 22:59 mustard I could be ketchup and you'd never know 22:59 mustard 2. we almost got the great reaming tool applied to us when we migrated to Koha from S. 22:59 mtj mustard: i love your idea!, patches welcome... 23:00 mustard Oh, to be clear, the reaming tool from S., not our migrating vendor 23:00 mustard patches to tor or the reaming tool? anyway 23:00 jcamins mustard: it *is* a great idea. The problem is he's sold it... badly. 23:01 mustard Ok, but in killing the salesman it appears to kill the idea, which might have merit 23:01 jcamins I do genuinely hope that he'll provide a patch. 23:02 drojf …and staff access to apollo 23:02 mustard [off]he's probably running like h* in the opposite direction 23:02 jcamins Well, yeah. 23:03 rangi well people spent a bunch of time helping with the spec and fixing the xml 23:03 rangi if you read the history of the bug 23:03 mtj he could also make a great start by publishing their existing ldif->apollo converter code 23:03 mustard and I didn't, admittedly 23:03 rangi theres your problem right there 23:03 mustard accept 23:04 rangi ohh version 5 23:04 mustard but it would be nice to keep the objective and possible benefits in mind, you know, what's that American saying... 23:04 jcamins Version 5? 23:04 mustard cutting off your ear to spite your nose or something 23:05 rangi who killed the salesman? 23:05 jcamins rangi: I thought he drove a car into a wall or something? 23:05 mustard well, we are talking metaphorically I hope.... 23:05 rangi jcamins: a non release release announcement from non releases 23:06 rangi who even metaphorically did that? 23:06 rangi i suggest actually reading the bug might help 23:06 rangi i know devils advocate is fun and all 23:06 rangi but it doesnt have to be an occupation 23:06 jcamins rangi: a what? Huh? 23:06 jcamins I'm so confused. 23:07 rangi [off] liblime academic koha 5 23:07 jcamins Ohhhh. 23:07 jcamins Version 5. 23:09 rangi specifically 23:09 mtj mustard: i highly recommend reading the bug to assuage your stewage 23:09 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6891#c20 23:09 huginn 04Bug 6891: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal 23:09 mustard ah, it's over... 23:09 rangi he's not running anywhere, the discussion has been channelled into productive activity 23:10 mustard I did read part of the bug, but didn't go into the history 23:10 rangi and we have come to the crux of the issue 23:10 jcamins Ahhh. 23:10 * jcamins should have known. 23:12 mustard It's 1800 and I need a big hamburger. Everyone have a pleasant day... 23:13 drojf (22:55:34) drojf: "There are even Koha consortia which are charging their librarians multi-thousand dollar extraction fees just to get their own data out!" 23:13 drojf (22:55:35) drojf: hm 23:13 drojf (22:55:37) drojf: i can imagine one 23:13 drojf aaaand… i was right 23:14 rangi yup 23:18 drojf rangi: yes i was wondering how he would make ll cherrypick exactly THIS 23:19 jcamins pull request? 23:19 wahanui i guess pull request is better, for a big patch like that 23:30 rangi could do that, fork and pull request on github 23:34 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @paulcnielsen: "Just had a great interview with @gtsilvia77 for her #kohails reserach project. But I was only kiwi responding :(" 23:35 rangi slackers! 23:40 drojf "Play Zork on the Raspberry Pi" \o/ 23:42 drojf but better not now. good night 23:43 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @paulcnielsen: "@ranginui @gtsilvia77 yep, what i said too. Wassup kiwi #kohails librarians?" 23:43 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @arwenamin: "@paulcnielsen @gtsilvia77 there's a research project on #kohails?" 23:52 mtj oh god, who's stupid idea was that tweetbot... 23:55 bag heh