Time  Nick         Message
23:08 huginn       drojf: The operation succeeded.
23:08 drojf        @later tell eythian nice! i found that chip said to be working before. turns out my "gma" 4500 mhd is something completely different and apparently not working.
22:54 drojf        alright, after getting some numbers i take that back about eerie having more votes before, that was apparently only in my head
22:42 rangi        jcamins++ #test is catching valid bugs in 3.8.x
22:42 tweetbot`    Twitter: @27point7: "@nengard woah! I thought it was a joke, but i see it is serious... Great idea! #secretplan #kohails"
22:41 libsysguy    you know…if you are like me and didn't read the directions about points
22:41 libsysguy    where she explained how voting worked
22:34 drojf        follow up?
22:30 libsysguy    only 1 mind you
22:30 libsysguy    so nigeria got some points off me
22:30 libsysguy    but i did what nengard said not to do in her follow up email
22:29 * libsysguy  voted for DC
22:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8383 normal, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Need test to check that Perl files will compile
22:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
22:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8356 major, P4, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , moveitem.tt and linkitem.tt have cataloging typo
22:29 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8383: Add test to check that Perl scripts compile
22:29 jenkins_koha * 5p4m: Bug 7143 – Bug for tracking changes to the about page
22:29 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143 : Adding Stacey Walker to the history
22:29 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8356 - moveitem.tt and linkitem.tt have cataloging typo Changed urls from cataloging to cataloguing
22:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #91: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/91/
22:11 drojf        i am very sure that was a lot more
22:11 drojf        eerie, 31 votes
22:10 drojf        seriously even
22:10 drojf        i'm sorry but that kohacon vote is only a joke now. seariously usa, redo all your votes to chose reno now? what happened to all the first votes for the other two us bids? you made that all wrong by accident? sure.
21:47 * jcamins    goes to pick up vegetables.
21:45 jcamins      It is done.
21:44 tweetbot`    Twitter: @saschel: "Superduper RT @nengard: my super secret plan to make searching by cover color possible in #kohails is [almost] done! http://t.co/tMNF8PeC"
21:31 francharb    :)
21:31 francharb    and keep it fun!
21:31 drojf        good night francharb
21:31 francharb    good night all
21:31 drojf        have fun :)
21:30 rangi        3 more days of school holidays left
21:30 rangi        ok time to go do something with the kids
21:30 rangi        you should have tm'd it francharb :)
21:29 nengard      talk to you all tomorrow
21:29 nengard      okay time to make bengard dinner
21:28 francharb    ;)
21:28 francharb    drojf, ah ok! makes more sense
21:28 francharb    true
21:27 rangi        well not really, but we shouldnt explode
21:27 francharb    and go to sleep
21:27 francharb    I need to tweet taht
21:27 drojf        francharb: we dont have barcodes yet, so we use the call numbers also for barcodes and will change to real barcodes after the migration
21:27 francharb    " spaces in barcodes are ok"
21:27 francharb    \0/
21:27 rangi        hmm spaces in barcodes are ok, probably the test needs to be fixed
21:26 francharb    drojf, barcode with spaces?
21:26 francharb    23:25 is kind of late
21:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #91 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:26 francharb    wooo
21:26 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8384 major, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Some Perl scripts do not compile
21:26 jenkins_koha jcamins: Bug 8384: Some Perl scripts do not compile
21:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #90: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/90/
21:26 francharb    It may be a few years ago
21:26 drojf        rangi: the speedy checkin/checkout benchmarks were not due to a lack of patrons but due to spaces in barcodes not handled by the test. it breaks the get request. it's easy to fix, but i wonder if i will be told that my barcodes with spaces have the bug and not the script because that is probably kind of unexpected?
21:26 francharb    I can't remenber when is the last time I read one...
21:25 francharb    :)
21:24 rangi        i havent read one in 15 years, but i bet you are right
21:24 rangi        heh
21:23 francharb    ;)
21:23 francharb    they all have black covers...
21:23 rangi        i like that book by stephen king, the black one
21:23 francharb    nengard++
21:23 rangi        searching by cover colour is a sweet idea
21:22 tweetbot`    Twitter: @nengard: "my super secret plan to make searching by cover color possible in #kohails is done! now it just needs a sign off http://t.co/0aAXbb0D"
21:22 nengard      I thought of it this morning when I couldn't sleep
21:22 nengard      :)
21:22 francharb    nengard, I like that!
21:20 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8412 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , add color icon set
21:20 nengard      my super secret plan is done!! bug 8412
21:18 francharb    :)
21:18 rangi        trying to write maori on an english phone is hard too
21:18 rangi        ahh i can imagine
21:17 francharb    rangi, the best is when I'm texting in english from a "french phone"
21:17 francharb    :)
21:17 francharb    rangi++
21:16 nengard      :)
21:16 rangi        nowadays, you can just blame typos on autocorrect, that's what I do
21:15 rangi        hehe
21:15 francharb    ;)
21:15 francharb    the funny thing is that I knew something was wrong when I was writing it
21:14 francharb    ahah
21:14 rangi        although as a vegetarian prey might not be so good for you francharb  :)
21:13 rangi        prey or pray :) both might work :)
21:12 francharb    and usually it works ;)
21:12 francharb    prey a little bit
21:12 francharb    I mix up everything
21:11 francharb    when I find that, I just check on the wiki page to get the other parts
21:11 francharb    nengard, because, sometimes my problem is to find that "#holdings th"
21:10 rangi        ok thats 3.8.x caught up to date
21:10 nengard      i was just copying other people's stuff and editing it :) hehe
21:09 nengard      i dont' know jquery
21:09 nengard      yes I have it - I used it to get the IDs but didn't know the jquery part
21:09 nengard      oops
21:09 nengard      yes I have it
21:09 nengard      nengard, do you use the firebug addon on firefox?
21:09 francharb    It found it quite useful to write jqueries
21:08 francharb    for this specific element
21:08 francharb    then you will have the html path, at the bottom of your screen
21:08 francharb    select (I think) "examine element" (not sure of the translation, I have it in french)
21:07 francharb    because, you can right click on any element of your page
21:07 francharb    nengard, do you use the firebug addon on firefox?
20:59 nengard      thanks
20:59 nengard      woo hoo :)
20:59 jcamins      Yeah, that should be fine.
20:58 nengard      so I think it's safe
20:57 nengard      since it's the th it shouldn't catch words in the table below
20:57 nengard      can you see any problem with that?
20:57 jcamins      Yup.
20:57 nengard      $("#holdings th:contains('Collection')").text("TEXT")
20:57 nengard      figured it out
20:57 nengard      ooo
20:57 nengard      i'm looking but not seeing anything that would be similar
20:56 jcamins      There should be a sample on the wiki.
20:56 jcamins      nengard: that's a lot harder, unfortunately.
20:56 nengard      jcamins how about on the staff client ? there is no ID on the heading but there on the table 'holdings'
20:53 nengard      was making it harder than it needed to be
20:53 nengard      yup that's all it took :)
20:52 nengard      ?
20:52 nengard      .text("text")
20:52 nengard      what's the part i use to change the text :)
20:52 nengard      and then what?
20:50 jcamins      $('#item_ccode')
20:48 nengard      but I can't seem to write the jquery right
20:48 nengard      it's id is:  item_ccode
20:48 nengard      i have a jquery question if anyone can help me ? what do I do to change the word Collection on the opac detail page holdings table?
20:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #90 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:21 rangi        paul_p++ # good blog post
20:21 rangi        i hate those
20:21 kathryn      fire alaaarm,,,
20:18 * cait       searches for that one a lot
20:18 cait         guess icecream would work too
20:18 cait         much easier
20:17 cait         there :)
20:17 huginn       cait: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, camins, ASSIGNED , Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors
20:17 cait         @query fudge
20:17 kathryn      aha!
20:17 jcamins      Hehe.
20:17 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , late order management
20:17 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, camins, ASSIGNED , Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors
20:17 jcamins      @query chocolate
20:16 wahanui      somebody said yeah that one was populated
20:16 rangi        yeah that one
20:16 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, camins, ASSIGNED , Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors
20:16 jcamins      Bug 5158
20:15 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8028 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Make table collapsing on parcel.pl sticky
20:15 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8155 critical, P5 - low, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Comply with UK Electronic Commerce (EC Directive) Regulations 2002
20:15 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, camins, ASSIGNED , Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors
20:15 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8198 normal, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, NEW , Need to track the call to "C4::Context->userenv->{'xxxx'} without check if it is undefined
20:15 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1627 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Separate sessions for OPAC and intranet
20:15 jcamins      @query cookies
20:15 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2172 enhancement, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cart attaches an iso2709 file, which confuses 99% of patrons.
20:15 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3248 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , CIRC Sys Preference - FinesMode  "test" incorrect
20:15 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3460 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Hold options inconsistent for "Damaged" items
20:15 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3427 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Overriding hold results in "specific item" hold reverting to "any item" hold
20:15 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1627 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Separate sessions for OPAC and intranet
20:15 jcamins      @query cookie
20:15 kathryn      rangi what bug?
20:15 kathryn      on yum cait, frozen appeals
20:15 cait         kathryn: there is no too early for fudge!
20:15 jcamins      cait: that's one of the reasons I individually wrap.
20:15 cait         it's sitll a bit too soft... I froze it for cutting
20:15 jcamins      Also cookies.
20:15 jcamins      In fact, I might have to make some, now that it has been suggested.
20:14 jcamins      I wouldn't!
20:14 kathryn      it was too early!
20:14 jcamins      !!
20:14 cait         jcamins: kathryn refused my baileys fudge yesterday morning...
20:14 rangi        we need more recipes on that bug
20:14 kathryn      :D
20:14 jcamins      Well, fudge works, too.
20:14 jcamins      kathryn: the only way to do it. :)
20:14 kathryn      cait and jcamins I see you are on the your usual mission of making Koha better, one cookie at a time :)
20:13 wahanui      morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
20:13 jcamins      Morning.
20:13 cait         :)
20:13 cait         good morning kathryn
20:12 kathryn      good morning :)
20:10 * cait       sends jcamins cookies
20:09 jcamins      They'd help me.
20:08 cait         I guess cookies won't help?
20:08 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4460 blocker, P3, ---, kyle, ASSIGNED , Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost
20:08 * rangi      gets a little ranty on bug 4460
20:02 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4460 normal, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost
20:02 rangi        bug 4460
20:02 rangi        found it
19:59 jcamins      git bisect is pretty awesome.
19:58 cait         yeah it's super cool
19:58 rangi        man i love git bisect
19:56 cait         oh poor jenkins!
19:55 jcamins      cait: no, annoyed about jenkins.
19:55 cait         you are getting annoyed about the runtime parameters? ;)
19:55 jcamins      cait: about runtime parameters for the report service.
19:54 jcamins      Sorry, I meant that to rangi.
19:54 jcamins      cait: rangi I get annoyed.
19:54 rangi        i should make it more obnoxious
19:54 rangi        maybe im the only person who gets annoyed by jenkins emailing them
19:54 rangi        that one is easier to fix
19:54 rangi        # intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/searchengine/solr/indexes.tt: 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 141, 144
19:54 rangi        # Files list:
19:54 rangi        #   at xt/tt_valid.t line 55.
19:54 rangi        #   Failed test 'TT syntax: not using TT directive within HTML tag'
19:53 rangi        then the other error is just translation related
19:53 rangi        im gonna bisect to find it
19:53 rangi        so thats a fatal error
19:53 cait         oh ok
19:53 rangi        #   [% ELSE %]
19:53 rangi        # file error - parse error - /home/chrisc/git/catalyst-koha/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-user.tt line 214: unexpected token (ELSE)
19:53 rangi        #   at xt/author/valid-templates.t line 62.
19:53 rangi        #   Failed test '/home/chrisc/git/catalyst-koha/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-user.tt'
19:53 rangi        not ok 672 - /home/chrisc/git/catalyst-koha/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-user.tt
19:52 rangi        it totally busts the template
19:52 wahanui      i heard ah was ?
19:52 cait         ah?
19:52 rangi        its not that cait
19:52 cait         I am not totally persuaded it will not break translations...
19:52 cait         hm there was a bug about that today
19:52 rangi        looks like someone has mucked up the if else
19:50 jcamins      rangi: thanks.
19:50 jcamins      cait: not that hard.
19:41 rangi        that might be the same error
19:40 rangi        xt_tt_valid_t.TT syntax: not using TT directive within HTML tag (231)
19:40 rangi        opac-user.tt is broken
19:40 rangi        xt_author_valid_templates_t./home/jenkins/jobs/Koha_master/workspace/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-user.tt (224)
19:40 cait         getting better
19:40 rangi        so back to 4 fails, from 7
19:39 rangi        hiya cait
19:39 rangi        now the tests are just failing for invalida templates, and perlcritic, ie valid errors
19:39 cait         morning rangi
19:39 rangi        jcamins_away: installed test::strict
19:22 cait         foun dit
19:20 cait         rebasing a patch with yui calendar pickers
19:20 cait         was searching your notes on how to replace one with the other
19:19 cait         ah, now you wre faster :)
19:19 oleonard     Invalid, because I don't think I ended up needing that particular code change after all?
19:19 * oleonard   had no memory of it
19:19 cait         so resolved fixed?
19:19 cait         cool :)
19:19 oleonard     Yes, and done
19:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5778 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Modify DHTMLcalendar function to work with jQueryUI datepicker
19:18 cait         ?
19:18 cait         oleonard: can bug 5778 be closed now
19:12 cait         hope that made sense
19:12 cait         hmmmm
19:12 meilibrary   much more in the future but this is a great group for us. thanks everyone.
19:11 cait         as i said - I don't know 2.2.5 but others here do
19:11 cait         please come back or use the mailing lists
19:11 meilibrary   this is really encouraging!  thanks very much..hopefully we'll have a new version up and running in the next few weeks
19:09 cait         but it should not be too hard
19:09 cait         meilibrary: that's ok, but you have one branchcode for your main library and some other values you would have to reconfiugre in hte new installation before importing the data
19:09 meilibrary   no branches, this is a 2-person special library in DC. maybe marc21 export is logical in this case.  this place was a complete mess when we arrived.
19:07 cait         I have never done it, so maybe some others can tell you more
19:07 cait         you woul dhave to redo the configuration settings, like item types and branches
19:07 cait         you would install a current version on your new server and just import them
19:07 cait         if you export your data
19:06 meilibrary   can it be done in a single migration or will it be a nightmare like 2.2 to 3.0, then 3.0 to current version.  hmm marc21 might be one path
19:06 cait         and importing those into a new installation
19:06 cait         so I was thinking if you have no other data, exporting as marc21 might be easiest
19:06 cait         meilibrary: updating form 2.2.5 has some quirks I think, once you are on 3.x it will be easier
19:05 francharb    I would say the same
19:05 francharb    cait++
19:05 cait         hm, maybe exporting and importing into a new database?
19:05 francharb    Hopefully, I will be lucky too!
19:05 meilibrary   friends, we have koha 2.2.5 and we finally got a new server and have to upgrade to a newer version.  how difficult will it be to migrate our data? the current data consists of the most basic biblio records possible, no patron stuff, no circ, only about 15,000 bibliographic records.  advice?
19:04 francharb    oleonard, lucky you
19:04 cait         fun?
19:04 cait         hm
19:04 francharb    \0/
19:04 francharb    I saw picture where streets are totally flooded by a 5 min rain or something like that
19:04 oleonard     I was told the same would be true of Thailand during my trip, but it only rained once.
19:04 francharb    that's the less I can say, rainy...
19:03 francharb    :)
19:03 francharb    apparently, It's going to be rainy
19:03 oleonard     Fun
19:03 francharb    vacatiooooonnnnnn
19:03 francharb    yep
19:03 oleonard     francharb: As a tourist?
19:02 francharb    oleonard, if everything goes well, I'm going to Viet Nam in september... Not that far  ;)
19:02 francharb    :)
19:01 oleonard     I speak of a hypothetical future trip :)
19:01 francharb    you"re already planning to go back?
19:01 francharb    you've been there before?
19:01 francharb    "next time"?
18:59 oleonard     Bangkok I would skip next time. Too big.
18:59 oleonard     I recommend snorkeling in Phuket and shopping in Chiang Mai.
18:59 oleonard     Thailand
18:59 francharb    where were you again?
18:59 cait         :)
18:58 oleonard     It was great
18:58 francharb    cait, :)
18:58 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.2°C (8:55 PM CEST on July 10, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
18:58 cait         @wunder Konstanz
18:58 francharb    oleonard, how was your trip?
18:58 cait         fine :)
18:58 francharb    how are you all doing?
18:58 francharb    :)
18:58 nengard      hiya
18:58 cait         hi francharb :)
18:58 francharb    hi all
18:57 cait         jcamins_away: would it be hard to make the report service work with runtime parameters?
18:56 oleonard     Thanks :)
18:56 cait         it's nice to ave you back oleonard :)
18:51 oleonard     The bug is. The feature isn't I don't think.
18:51 cait         hm so improperly named?
18:43 * oleonard   uploaded a PDF and a Photoshop PSD file
18:42 oleonard     No
18:39 nengard      does it really limit file types to pdf?
18:29 eythian      what's with the PDF files thing anyway? What if I want to have postscript files for patrons?
18:27 cait         local cover images, patron images and pdf files for patrons?
18:27 cait         jcamins_away:  :(
18:26 eythian      we'd be better off centralising the file storage systems
18:26 eythian      that's not a good thing really
18:26 eythian      hrm
18:19 jcamins      Well, different ways of storing those files.
18:19 jcamins      Or will, once the bug I just signed off on is pushed.
18:19 jcamins      We have three different ways of uploading files into Koha.
18:19 jcamins      Wow.
18:11 eythian      If I mark it as something, it goes away.
18:08 eythian      oleonard: turned out I did have a suggestion, but it wasn't for the library I had set
18:08 huginn       04Bug 8274: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , count of suggestions on main page wrong
18:08 eythian      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8274 <-- this bug is it I think
18:06 oleonard     eythian: Looks like it. Mine says "1" when there are 0.
18:06 eythian      does 3.8.2 always say "Suggestions pending approval: 1"?
18:03 oleonard     khall: I find that errors are not being displayed properly with patron file uploads
17:37 eythian      bag: awesome
17:36 cait         :)
17:36 bag          that's What I think makes them a cool company
17:36 bag          oh they take time to work on projects that aren't company related - like 10% giving back to local communities etc.
17:35 bag          we've actually got some code out there that works with them and we're working on the phase two part of it
17:35 eythian      bag: howso?
17:35 bag          eythian: they are a pretty cool company
17:33 eythian      heh
17:30 jwagner      yes, when we first started working with them, arranging phone calls for the tech team was a bit of a challenge :-)
17:30 eythian      jwagner: ta, they just appeared on my radar and seemed to be NZ based but around fairly internationally.
17:29 jwagner      eythian, they make phone notification software -- several of our libraries use it
17:28 eythian      http://www.talkingtech.com <-- anyone heard of these folks?
17:22 mbalmer      jcamins, yes, it works like a charm.
17:22 eythian      so this gives you a clean place to load a dump into.
17:22 eythian      it's because I had a dump I couldn't load due to problems with different versioned tables, and the 'drop' in the file not working due to constraints in newer versions.
17:21 jcamins      Why do you need it at all?
17:21 jcamins      Good call.
17:21 eythian      jcamins: well, by default when you run it, it says: "This script will delete all your Koha tables. You can't run it without a certain command line option. But you'll have to look in the source to work that out, as you probably shouldn't be using this anyway."
17:20 jcamins      This seems... dangerous?
17:20 mib_zvzx0h   i will listen.. i want this thing working.. thanks a lot for your help. :)
17:20 jcamins      Delete all tables?
17:20 * eythian    finally has a "delete all tables" script to make moving between versions easier.
17:20 jcamins      mbalmer: got your secure apt thingy set up?
17:20 jcamins      And most happy to help, provided you listen to instructions.
17:19 eythian      lots of people, mostly.
17:19 eythian      this is a pretty good channel for it.
17:18 mib_zvzx0h   it's so great that people help out like this...
17:17 mib_zvzx0h   this was my first on an IRC channel
17:17 mib_zvzx0h   this helps a lot... i now know what to do next..
17:17 mib_zvzx0h   ok thanks.
17:17 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h: the MARC blob, mostly. But don't ever edit the database directly.
17:17 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h: and for the future, make sure that you are creating MARC21 records instead of UNIMARC records (you probably did that anyway, but it's worth pointing out).
17:17 jcamins      Yup.
17:16 eythian      mbalmer: it is, yeah
17:16 mbalmer      eythian, once you get the concepts, it is a nice packaging system
17:16 eythian      mib_zvzx0h: it depends. Mostly the marc in the database, but not always.
17:16 mbalmer      Koha stores about four copies of the MARC data, in different locations
17:16 eythian      mbalmer: It's quite involved, really.
17:16 mib_zvzx0h   does zebra check for values in the marc text in the database or the koha database columns?
17:15 mbalmer      I am slowly becomming _really_ familiar with debian packaging and repository setup.  spent the whole day almost with that ;)
17:15 mib_zvzx0h   will back up the database and then do that.
17:15 * cait       waves
17:15 mib_zvzx0h   ok
17:14 eythian      you should also be able to koha-remove opera to delete your current one.
17:14 mib_zvzx0h   i will do that.
17:14 mib_zvzx0h   cool!
17:14 eythian      that is probably the best idea.
17:14 mib_zvzx0h   i can start another site with marc21 and see if that works
17:14 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h: ah. You'll want to repeat the process, this time choosing MARC21 at every point.
17:14 mib_zvzx0h   so went ahead with it
17:14 mib_zvzx0h   well, i did not know of the distinction
17:13 mbalmer      evening, marcs of the world ;)
17:13 * jcamins    has never heard of an Indian library using UNIMARC.
17:13 eythian      then you want marc21 most likely.
17:13 jcamins      Why did you choose UNIMARC?
17:13 mib_zvzx0h   india
17:13 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h: where are you located?
17:13 eythian      that will cause bad things.
17:13 mib_zvzx0h   hmm
17:13 eythian      right, so you have a marc21 zebra config with unimarc-ish data.
17:12 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h: yeah, you have to tell both koha-create and the web installer, or Zebra won't work.
17:12 mib_zvzx0h   the web installer
17:12 mib_zvzx0h   none
17:12 eythian      because you need to tell koha-create AND the web installer
17:12 eythian      mib_zvzx0h: which part of the process did you say to use unimarc?
17:12 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h: did you convert the records into UNIMARC format?
17:11 eythian      well, you probably will, I've never used unimarc :)
17:11 mib_zvzx0h   yes, i guess
17:11 mib_zvzx0h   i am new to all this
17:11 eythian      then you will have crazy problems
17:11 mib_zvzx0h   not really
17:11 jcamins      Wait, XML is the default.
17:11 eythian      do you want unimarc?
17:11 mib_zvzx0h   will that mess up?
17:11 eythian      ooh
17:11 eythian      jcamins: I think xml is the default
17:11 mib_zvzx0h   umm... i also chose unimarc as my marc flavour when setting up koha for the first time
17:11 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h: eythian will known. :)
17:10 jcamins      koha-rebuild-zebra --full -x?
17:10 jcamins      eythian: do you remember?
17:10 mib_zvzx0h   how do i do that?
17:10 jcamins      You could try reindexing with xml enabled, and see if it works.
17:10 mib_zvzx0h   the import went fine
17:10 mib_zvzx0h   staged and then imported
17:10 jcamins      Hm.
17:10 mib_zvzx0h   and then i staged from within koha admin panel
17:10 jcamins      But they must have been imported into your database in some way?
17:09 jcamins      Right, that's how you created the MARC file.
17:09 mib_zvzx0h   from an excel file using something called marcedit
17:09 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h: how did you import them?
17:09 jcamins      eythian: yeah, not having a Local-number means that Zebra can't find the record.
17:09 mib_zvzx0h   ok
17:09 eythian      yes
17:09 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h: yes, that's normal.
17:08 mib_zvzx0h   the registers folder
17:08 mib_zvzx0h   sorry that was wrong
17:08 mib_zvzx0h   in my zebra biblio folder, only the records folder has files in it. is this normal?
17:07 eythian      I can't remember if that's one of those things though
17:07 eythian      hmm. zebra is a bit temperamental, sometimes things that don't look too severe make it throw up its arms and quit.
17:06 mib_zvzx0h   it's possible some of the records could not have the right mappings...
17:06 mib_zvzx0h   i checked the bib1.att file and the others and they seem to be fine
17:06 mib_zvzx0h   from an excel file
17:06 mib_zvzx0h   which i created with my own mapping
17:05 mib_zvzx0h   i imported from a marc database
17:05 jcamins      How did the records get into your database?
17:05 mib_zvzx0h   this is the warning i get: 18:42:15-10/07 zebraidx(2666) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
17:05 mib_zvzx0h   no
17:05 jcamins      Did you change any files?
17:05 jcamins      Local number mapping?
17:04 mib_zvzx0h   gives one warning about local number mapping
17:04 jcamins      Humor us and repeat the process.
17:04 eythian      and does it seem to do everything correctly, no errors?
17:04 mib_zvzx0h   the index gets rebuilt
17:04 mib_zvzx0h   i did that too
17:04 mib_zvzx0h   manually as well as through the package tools
17:04 eythian      then try: sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -v --full opera
17:04 mib_zvzx0h   but essentially, i did restart the daemon
17:04 mib_zvzx0h   sorry that did not paste well
17:03 mib_zvzx0h   sbagaria@ubuntu:/var/log/koha/opera$ ps ax | grep zebra  7015 ?        S      0:00 daemon --name=opera-koha-zebra --errlog=/var/log/koha/opera/zebra-error.log --stdout=/var/log/koha/opera/zebra.log --output=/var/log/koha/opera/zebra-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=opera-koha.opera-koha -- zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/opera
17:03 eythian      OK, try it anyway :)
17:03 eythian      do: sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common restart
17:03 mib_zvzx0h   yes
17:03 mib_zvzx0h   for opac, i had to remove the default site in apache listening on port 80
17:03 eythian      mib_zvzx0h: first thing, is zebra running?
17:02 mib_zvzx0h   except the catalog search
17:02 mib_zvzx0h   my koha installation is working fine now
17:02 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h++
17:02 eythian      OK cool
17:02 mib_zvzx0h   and went through the better path of using the package tools
17:02 mib_zvzx0h   but then i cleaned that up
17:02 mib_zvzx0h   umm... i did mix them up a little by creating a database manually
17:02 eythian      README.debian is (iirc) more geared towards doing a manual install rather than a package one.
17:01 eythian      I wouldn't mix those up.
17:01 mib_zvzx0h   also the instruction in README.debian
17:01 mib_zvzx0h   and configured it using the package tools
17:00 mib_zvzx0h   I am using the latest package koha-common in Ubuntu 12.04... installed it using apt-get
17:00 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h: all those questions are good ones. :)
17:00 jcamins      :D
17:00 wahanui      tell us things like: what Koha version, how did you install it, what Linux version are you using, exactly what error messages are you seeing, what do you do to make the problem happen. Things like that.
17:00 jcamins      detail?
17:00 wahanui      okay, eythian.
17:00 eythian      no wahanui, detail is <reply>tell us things like: \what Koha version, how did you install it, \what Linux version are \you using, exactly \what error messages are \you seeing, \what do you do to make the problem happen. Things like that.
17:00 jcamins      eythian: I don't think that worked.
17:00 wahanui      i heard detail was fine
17:00 jcamins      detail?
17:00 wahanui      ...but detail is fine...
17:00 eythian      wahanui: detail is <reply>tell us things like: \what Koha version, how did you install it, \what Linux version are \you using, exactly \what error messages are \you seeing, \what do you do to make the problem happen. Things like that.
17:00 mib_zvzx0h   ok
16:59 wahanui      eythian: no idea
16:59 eythian      wahanui: detail is <reply>tell us things like: what Koha version, how did you install it, what Linux version are you using, exactly what error messages are you seeing, what do you do to make the problem happen. Things like that.
16:59 mib_zvzx0h   and i don't get any search result
16:59 mib_zvzx0h   so... the exception I get in the logs zebra-output.log is this: 20:03:05-10/07 zebrasrv(1) [warn] ir_session (exception)
16:58 mib_zvzx0h   sorry i am new to irc
16:58 jcamins      (anyone who can help, will do so)
16:58 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h: (and don't address yourself only to me, as I'll be away from the channel starting in about five minutes)
16:58 mib_zvzx0h   ok
16:57 jcamins      eythian: good. It sounds very strange to me.
16:57 jcamins      mib_zvzx0h: you'll need to give more details.
16:57 mib_zvzx0h   ..
16:57 mib_zvzx0h   Is anyone here familiar with zebra and how it works. It logs an exception for me whenever I search and does not return any results?
16:56 eythian      I don't see why not
16:56 jcamins      eythian: you can't infix the object of "sign off," can you?
16:56 eythian      ?
16:56 mib_zvzx0h   Hi!
16:55 * jcamins    sighs, resolves not to speak for the rest of the day.
16:55 jcamins      "signed it off"?
16:17 huginn       eythian: The operation succeeded.
16:17 eythian      @later tell drojf oh, I figured how the graphics in my laptop work, they're based on the processor which is an i7-2670QM. This means the graphics chipset is "Intel® HD Graphics 3000"
15:48 gaetan_B     bye !
15:48 reiveune1    bye
15:30 trea         thanks kf, i'm not finding anything at present, but i'll keep looking
15:28 kf           I think he configured it
15:28 kf           mtj did talk to him this morning - maybe check the logs for some commands?
15:27 jcamins      Hehe.
15:27 tweetbot`    eythian: No help for module 'TwitterWatch'. This is a bug.
15:27 eythian      tweetbot`: help twitterwatch
15:26 tweetbot`    eythian: Ask me for help about: auth, twitterwatch (say 'help <modulename>').
15:26 eythian      tweetbot`: help
15:26 eythian      tweetbot`: info
15:26 * eythian    wonders if tweetbot` can handle identi.ca
15:26 kf           trea-phone: there might be something in bugzilla
15:26 tweetbot`    Twitter: @Tredok: "Retour d'expérience de mises à jour "3.2 BibLibre" vers 3.8 http://t.co/M4ZudiTw #kohails"
15:17 trea         has anyone experienced a bug in 3.8.2 where suspended holds continue to be present in the holds queue?
15:16 trea         morning #koha
15:13 jcamins      No point in changing all the indexes to match what I think is the correct behavior in the staff client, then being told I need to change it all back. ;)
15:13 jcamins      paul_p: okay, just figured I'd ask.
15:13 paul_p       jcamins /me afk for a meeting & probably today
15:10 jcamins      Speculating wildly...
15:10 jcamins      Maybe UNIMARC?
15:09 kf           so I am not sure there is a reason?
15:09 kf           we don't use different indexes for bibliographic search
15:09 kf           hm
15:08 kf           so that sounds like a bugfix now
15:08 jcamins      kf: but according to comments, and git history, the OPAC is supposed to be using Match, etc.
15:08 kf           oh
15:07 jcamins      kf: no, someone deleted all the code.
15:06 kf           does it work well currently?
15:06 jcamins      I thought if I changed all the indexes in the OPAC I'd get dinged by QA for having changed functionality...
15:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC
15:05 jcamins      paul_p: based on marcelr's response on bug 8206, do you think it would be warranted (and approved by you;) for me to switch the OPAC to use the same indexes as the staff client, even though traditionally the OPAC used different indexes?
14:58 jcamins      Yay!
14:58 eythian      jcamins: applied successfully
14:51 eythian      jcamins: OK trying now
14:46 jcamins      The new patch applied for me, anyway.
14:45 jcamins      At least, I think I found the problem.
14:45 jcamins      Follow-up is uploaded. Give it a go.
14:45 jcamins      Found the problem.
14:44 eythian      ta
14:43 jcamins      eythian: I'll do a new patch.
14:33 eythian      heh
14:32 kf           :)
14:32 kf           they find the 1 in a million that is wrong
14:32 kf           librarians do that
14:32 kf           lol
14:32 paul_p       iirc, that were 13 on 750k biblios !
14:31 paul_p       FLOSS is usually user-need driven ;-) => I wrote the 1st version of this script because AixMarseille University complained that some/few records could not be found
14:30 eythian      paul_p: using it to find unindexable records is a great idea
14:29 paul_p       eythian = not sure I understand you...
14:26 huginn       04Bug 6566: enhancement, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , Checking if DB records are properly indexed
14:26 eythian      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6566#c11 <-- paul_p, that's a cunning use of that script.
14:24 eythian      hmm also, the script we have now should probably be removing duplicates, apparently.
14:23 eythian      https://library.plantandfood.co.nz/ <-- the new books/new serials thing here I'd love to replace with a report (although there are technical reasons why it might be tricky.)
14:21 eythian      kf: yeah, I think that's what this reports thing is to enable in a more general fashion.
14:20 kf           I have to ask him for the link - maybe a good start for playing :)
14:20 nengard      new books list with images would be even more awesome
14:20 kf           eythian: I think rangi did something for the first version of the dashboard using html and jquery
14:20 nengard      so if we can get that example on the wiki I'd be SUPER DUPER HAPPY :) hehe
14:20 nengard      so many people want that
14:19 nengard      an example of a new books list would be awesome
14:19 eythian      A lot of it could be done by embedding bits of javascript onto a page.
14:18 * kf         puts that on the "when eythian is here to bug him with questions list"
14:18 nengard      kf cause you're techy :)
14:18 eythian      I think it would be a very good idea to do that.
14:18 nengard      so that we can all learn from each other
14:18 nengard      but I do think we want a wiki page too with scripts/ideas/example links
14:18 eythian      heh
14:18 kf           not for me -makes me want to play with it :)
14:18 nengard      :) hehe
14:18 nengard      yes!
14:18 kf           nice!
14:18 eythian      technically scary enough? :)
14:17 eythian      in that case, maybe something like: "A report can be made public if you intend to allow access to it through the JSON webservice interface. This is a system that can be used by developers to make custom presentations of the data from the report, for example displaying it using a graphing API"
14:16 * nengard    has been doing this a long long time ? and gets lots and lots of email questions :)
14:16 eythian      ah right
14:16 nengard      that's why I want the tech info to scare away the non tech people :)
14:16 nengard      it's a careful balance :)
14:16 nengard      so they're gonna want to know what that is
14:16 nengard      well the end user sees the option to make the report public
14:15 eythian      It'd be more along the lines of developer docs than end user stuff though
14:15 kf           so not in the main user oriented part
14:15 kf           an appendix is probably a good place to put it
14:15 eythian      if you can get someone to put together technical documentation for it, then you could link to that.
14:14 nengard      i want it to be perfectly clear
14:14 eythian      Well, it's plain text, so a screenshot may not be ideal
14:14 nengard      right, but people who don't get it will be emailing me 100 questions
14:14 kf           people looking for something will know how to go from there
14:14 kf           nengard: I think mentioning it with a sample url and a screenshot of theoutput in the browser unformatted would be cool
14:13 kf           beyond the simple table layout
14:13 nengard      maybe an appendix on JSON and reports
14:13 eythian      oh yeah, we have a fairly bad new books thing that we would love to replace with something like that.
14:13 kf           well... wouldn't need to be public but you could do something nicely formatted with it
14:13 nengard      and I need some help with what to put in the manual
14:13 nengard      we need a library on the wiki for this stuff I guess
14:13 kf           as an example for a public report
14:13 eythian      heh
14:13 kf           or a new books list
14:13 eythian      but it'll also require javascript knowledge to be implemented.
14:13 nengard      okay i want some of these examples
14:13 nengard      hmmmm
14:13 eythian      nengard: if you can write a report for it, yes.
14:12 kf           I was thinking abou tprint layouts... in html for some things
14:12 nengard      some libraries like to show recent checkins - would that work?
14:12 eythian      like, as graphs
14:12 eythian      Our thinking was past 24hr/week/etc stats on the staff client homepage.
14:12 eythian      yeah, it's something that would require a technical user to take advantage of.
14:11 kf           jcamins had one example with a map that showed the places of the publishers in your database
14:11 kf           that's how I tested it
14:11 kf           you can also view JSON in the browser (eythian stop me if I am saying sth wrong? ;) )
14:10 kf           and give example urls
14:10 kf           people searching for it will know
14:10 kf           I think just write json output
14:10 nengard      kf i don't know JSON and so I don't know how to write that up in the manual
14:10 eythian      yeah
14:10 kf           yes, but perhaps an enhancement - worth noting it does currently not work
14:09 eythian      Though, allowing runtime params would be neat too.
14:09 kf           nengard: it gives you JSON output, which you can use to build things
14:09 eythian      I think the idea is that you can write webpages to take them and run things through graph APIs or whatever.
14:08 nengard      jcamins - are your examples public? can I use them for the manual? cause I'm not sure how someone would use this kind of output
14:08 nengard      yeah - it doesn't work with runtime parameters
14:07 nengard      or am i doing something wrong?
14:07 nengard      looks like you cant use runtime parameters though
14:07 nengard      hmmm
14:05 kf           you can build very nice things with it, jcamins_away had a few great examples
14:04 kf           it is :)
14:04 nengard      well i better read it then
14:04 nengard      hehe
14:04 eythian      which apparently is cool
14:04 nengard      thank you!
14:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Report webservices
14:04 wahanui      it has been said that bug 7249 is particularly cool.
14:04 eythian      nengard: bug 7249
14:02 nengard      is the string
14:02 nengard      'Report is public'
14:02 nengard      cgi-bin/koha/reports/guided_reports.pl?phase=Create report from SQL
14:02 eythian      s/in that URL/on that page/
14:02 eythian      nengard: can you give me a URL and a string in that URL, and I can find out quickly enough
14:01 nengard      I need to document that, but don't remember seeing that commit coming across my email
14:00 nengard      can someone tell me what bug number or commit message to look at to figure out what the new 'public' option on reports is for?
13:49 eythian      jcamins_away: you've done something really weird to that patch, I can' convince it to either apply, or give a meaningful conflict notification.
13:49 oleonard     That's okay. Not sure why huginn says that is needs signoff.
13:48 kf           oleonard: ah sorry for the duplicate, I didn't find the other bug :(
13:47 kf           ouch
13:47 paul_p       kf = i'm at home today, and my internet is *crazy* (20kB/s -not kidding-)
13:47 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7339] Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339>
13:47 kf           paul_p: you missed some karma for nice blog posts :)
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13:11 jcamins      paul_p++
13:11 ryehex       A few people were helping me search upgrade problem. I created this forum post to make tracking this easier if anyone can help: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Search-not-working-after-upgrade-td5719182.html
13:10 drojf        that link looks horrible :D
13:10 drojf        http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdrupal.biblibre.com%2Ffr%2Fblog%2Fbillet%2Fretour-dexp%25C3%25A9rience-de-mises-%25C3%25A0-jour-32-biblibre-vers-38
13:09 kf           well, now everyone can copy and paste the text themselves :)
13:08 kf           oh yes, it doesn't
13:08 kf           and the EU version is the community version - some mistake in google's translation I think
13:08 drojf        kf: your link does not do what you maybe think it does?!
13:08 kf           link: http://drupal.biblibre.com/fr/blog/billet/retour-dexp%C3%A9rience-de-mises-%C3%A0-jour-32-biblibre-vers-38
13:07 kf           my google translate link :)
13:07 kf           [off] http://translate.google.de/?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&hl=de&tab=wT
13:07 nengard      yeah what blog post?
13:07 * jcamins    didn't see paul_p's blog post.
13:07 nengard      mtj++
13:07 jcamins      mtj.
13:07 kf           mtj :)
13:07 nengard      where did the tweetbot come from?
13:07 nengard      oh cool!!!
13:06 kf           paul_p++ #nice blog post :)
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13:04 jcamins      Not that Vancouver wouldn't be cool, of course.
13:04 nengard      well they have no way to write in anything :)
13:03 nengard      HA
13:03 jcamins      nengard: I have observed that autocat seems to have a disproportionate number of people from the Pacific Northwest.
13:03 nengard      cause of my emails?
13:03 wahanui      jcamins is probably A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins
13:03 nengard      jcamins ??
13:02 jcamins      nengard: now we're going to have write-in votes for the Pacific Northwest! :)
12:57 huginn       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
12:57 jcamins      @later tell rangi Could you please install Test::Strict on jenkins?
12:55 kf           drojf: tricky
12:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7065 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , reserves table needs a primary key
12:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Reports webservice should allow selection by name
12:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8301 enhancement, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Display additional system information (preferences) on About page to minimize support cases
12:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8383 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Need test to check that Perl files will compile
12:55 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7065 follow-up DBRev number
12:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
12:55 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7065 - reserves table needs a primary key
12:55 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8256: Teach webservice to select reports by name
12:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4460 normal, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost
12:55 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 8301 - Display additional system information (preferences) on About page to minimize support cases
12:55 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8383: Add test to check that Perl scripts compile
12:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8356 major, P4, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , moveitem.tt and linkitem.tt have cataloging typo
12:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8384 major, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Some Perl scripts do not compile
12:55 jenkins_koha * 5p4m: Bug 7143 – Bug for tracking changes to the about page
12:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143 : Adding Stacey Walker to the history
12:55 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 4460 - Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost - Followup
12:55 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 4460 - Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost
12:55 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8356 - moveitem.tt and linkitem.tt have cataloging typo Changed urls from cataloging to cataloguing
12:55 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8384: Some Perl scripts do not compile
12:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #780: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/780/
12:53 drojf        yeah! but i hide it under the cover of a poor, underpaid student
12:53 kf           so you are multi millionair?
12:53 kf           lol
12:52 drojf        nah they were legit people with just banking problems and a lot of money :)
12:51 kf           kohavote phishing attack?
12:50 kf           drojf: lol
12:49 drojf        all these nigerian princes i met over the years can finally be useful
12:49 jcamins_away lol
12:49 * drojf      sends out letters to nigeria and argentina
12:48 drojf        kf: trying to influence the vote?
12:48 nengard      I'll do a lot of posting today :)
12:48 nengard      kf - I keep trying to get them to vote
12:47 eythian      it was good, though my feet are a bit sore from lots of walking.
12:47 kf           eythian: how was it? :)
12:47 kf           nengard: any chance more us libraries will vote for kohacon?
12:46 eythian      yeah, was spending a few days playing tourist.
12:46 kf           hey eythian - I missed you :D
12:41 eythian      I think am is very similar to a rebase internally, so that'll probably do exactly the same thing.
12:40 nengard      it was git am --abort
12:39 nengard      :)
12:39 nengard      figured it out
12:39 eythian      if you are sure you don't, I think git rebase --abort will work and wind you back to where you were before you started it. Alternately, you can delete that file if you are currently where you want to be.
12:39 nengard      how do i kill it?
12:39 eythian      I think that means that it thinks you have a current rebase already in progress
12:37 nengard      previous rebase directory /Users/nengard/manual/.git/rebase-apply still exists but mbox given.
12:37 nengard      new-host:manual nengard$ git am -3 -i -u french001.patch
12:37 nengard      I need some git help ? what does this mean?
12:11 drojf        because you tweeted only "#kohails"? i thought you did it to try the bot
12:11 paul_p       drojf ??? why lol ?
12:11 drojf        lol paul_p
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12:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #780 for job Koha_master (previous build: NOW UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 5 days 20 hr ago)
11:59 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7065 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=89b164670a429024d8de04b2c7306213a10e12c9> / Bug 7065 - reserves table needs a primary key <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2662e4c069c3a7d8bc935de6a760d0a818e020b1> / Bug 8256: Teach webservice to select reports by name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=19264af3f4cb7
09:33 rangi        thats thef flaw in benchmarking, its subjective not absolute :)
09:32 rangi        than on faster
09:32 drojf        :D
09:32 rangi        the improvement will be much greater on slower hardware
09:32 paul_p       so, plack answer "page not found", very very very fast ;-)
09:31 paul_p       drojf = iirc, I ran the test with a wrong URL (like http://my.plack.server/ci-bin/koha/ -note ci-bin and not cgi-bin)
09:31 drojf        that sounded reasonable to me. mind you, this is a raspberry pi mini-computer
09:31 drojf        plack:     Step 1: staff client main page   35425ms 0.564 pages/sec
09:31 drojf        noplack: Step 1: staff client main page 420016ms 0.047 pages/sec
09:31 drojf        paul_p:
09:29 drojf        oh, good to know. i will have a look at the plack output next time
09:28 paul_p       drojf = I also suspect that your plack-run test is not really run. It's too fast. I got some results like this when, in fact, Plack returned an error (and made nothing)
09:28 drojf        yes, i get 10-11x for other parts of the test
09:28 paul_p       I get a -already great- x3, not 2068
09:28 drojf        yes, that is how i came to do that test :)
09:27 paul_p       drojf = have you seen my mail "the plack effect" on koha-devel mailing list ?
09:27 drojf        benchmark_staff.pl
09:27 paul_p       drojf = what do you use to benchmark ?
09:26 drojf        ah yes that sounds good
09:25 rangi        so thats a good start
09:25 rangi        50 in there
09:25 rangi        how many borrowers int he sample data?
09:24 drojf        hm need to generate user data, i'm not going to enter that by hand :D
09:23 rangi        or something like that
09:23 rangi        from 1-10
09:23 rangi        then do random numbers of checkouts
09:23 rangi        hmm 100 would be good
09:23 drojf        how many borrowers should i have for reasonable benchmarking? 10? 100?
09:20 rangi        :)
09:19 drojf        ok the "all at once" is probably going to take 45 minutes, i better go to work :D
09:19 drojf        err, the "not" does not belong there
09:19 rangi        :)
09:16 drojf        yes that is nice too, but not i should have more patrons then to test
09:16 rangi        which is no bad thing
09:15 rangi        it does mean that for circ, first checkout to a borrower, takes a hit, then next 10 books they are checking out, way faster
09:15 rangi        that'll be why
09:15 drojf        cool, thanks
09:15 rangi        *nod*
09:15 rangi        cgi, look it up each time
09:15 drojf        ah! i think i dont have much user data in there so it probably only uses my own account
09:15 rangi        plack will have all the borrower data in ram
09:14 rangi        because multiple checkouts with the same borrower, will be a lot faster than changing borrowers
09:14 rangi        same borrower?
09:12 drojf        Performance gain: Step 6a circulation (checkouts)    2068x
09:12 drojf        Plack:      Step 6a circulation (checkouts)       211ms   94.786 checkouts/sec
09:12 drojf        no Plack: Step 6a circulation (checkouts) 436543ms     0.045 checkouts/sec
09:12 drojf        err. wat? i'm doing raspi koha benchmarks. so far it was a solid 10x faster with plack. and then this happened
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08:07 drojf        moin kf
08:07 kf           morning drojf :)
08:07 drojf        good morning #koha
08:06 drojf        +1
08:06 drojf        :)
08:05 kf           hm next project, a google translate bot? :)
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07:30 kf           it's a small conflict, but I got a bit confused on resolving it - I will try again tonight
07:30 kf           clrh: no problem, I think I understand you :)
07:29 clrh         I said this is because I saw your comment on 5339 :) I cannot ensure you someone else will have a look in the week (not sure of my english as usual)
07:27 kf           clrh: maybe I can try and resolve the conflict myself - but have to take a deeper look then
07:27 kf           clrh: ah thx
07:27 clrh         for information, Julian is in holidays, he will be back the 16 (july)
07:24 clrh         hi rangi
07:24 rangi        hi clrh
07:24 clrh         hi kf
07:24 kf           hi clrh :)
07:23 reiveune     hi everybody :)
07:23 clrh_        hello
07:23 kf           hi rangi and reiveune :)
07:23 rangi        hi reiveune
07:23 reiveune     hello
07:22 rangi        hi kf
07:21 kf           hi again #koha
07:10 rangi        hello europe
07:09 matts        hi !
07:08 gaetan_B     hello !
06:47 cait         bbiab :)
06:46 mtj          no patch yet... :)
06:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , replace 'install_misc/debian.packages' file with 'koha-debian-deps.pl' script
06:46 mtj          oops, bug 8402
06:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8042 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Batch numbers aren't committed as used until an item is added
06:46 mtj          logged a bug 8042
06:45 sophie_m     Guten Tag cait :-)
06:45 cait         bonjour sophie_m :)
06:45 cait         fredericd++ :)
06:32 mtj          yeah, i agree
06:31 slef         aptitude install $(< debs.txt) # but yes, that would be OK
06:30 mtj          koha_debian_deps.pl parses ./debian/control and generates the debs.txt
06:30 mtj          something like that then...
06:30 mtj          aptitude install  < ./debs.txt ?
06:29 mtj          $  ./koha_debian_deps.pl  > debs.txt
06:28 slef         mtj: I don't like telling people to run random scripts as root
06:28 mtj          slef, or wrap that yuckyness in a koha_debain_deps.pl script
06:26 slef         hi cait
06:26 slef         hi all
06:24 cait         morning slef :)
06:24 slef         mtj: replace the INSTALL.debian line with something like aptitude install $(sed -n -e '/Depends: /,/^[^ ]/{;s/Depends: //;s/,//g;p;}' debian/control) (but test that first as it might not be quite right yet)
06:21 cait         mtj++
06:20 cait         thx again :)
06:20 mtj          1  :)
06:20 cait         it's used to remove diacricitcs from patron names when creating the user id
06:20 mtj          its stupid (and buggy) to have two files for debian packages
06:20 cait         required 1 or 0?
06:20 cait         hm
06:19 mtj          and just use/update the debian/control file
06:19 cait         I only forgot the C4 part
06:19 cait         but that's already in master, so nothing to worry about for now
06:19 cait         ok
06:19 cait         :)
06:19 mtj          theres a bit of a plan to kill the 'install_misc/debian.packages' file :)
06:18 cait         you were typing faster than I was :)
06:18 cait         i did debian/control install_misc/debian.packages and now C4:PerlDependencies:Installer:PerlDpeendencies.pm
06:18 mtj          thats about it...
06:18 mtj          and ./C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm
06:17 mtj          ./debian/control
06:17 cait         is there another place I should add the new dep?
06:17 cait         ok :) thx!
06:16 mtj          1.08, i think
06:16 cait         or just give 1.08?
06:16 cait         so 1.08-1?
06:16 mtj          1.08-ish...
06:16 cait         :) thx!
06:16 mtj          http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libtext-unaccent-perl
06:16 cait         sounds reasonable
06:15 mtj          hmm, chose the version-number in debian stable?
06:14 cait         thx :)
06:14 mtj          1 tic...
06:13 cait         } < that's what I have right now
06:13 cait         'min_ver'  => '?',
06:13 cait         'required' => '0',
06:13 cait         'usage'    => 'Core',
06:13 cait         'Text::Unaccent' => {
06:13 cait         and not sure how to find out which version I have installed :(
06:13 cait         I am not sure about the version numbers I have to give there
06:13 cait         I added a new perl package but forgot adding it to C4::installer:... apparently
06:12 cait         I am trying to fix 7411
06:12 wahanui      up is probably the sky
06:12 mtj          whats up?
06:12 cait         :)
06:11 mtj          yepz
06:10 cait         mtj: still around?
06:03 * dcook      is having fun playing with his new git dev install
06:03 dcook        Ooooh
05:59 dcook        As I'm trying to do now :p
05:59 dcook        I think I follow you now ;)
05:59 mtj          (if i bork my primary testing repo)
05:58 mtj          i *have* many many koha repos, i might wanna test a bug on any one of them
05:58 mtj          well, i dont really... but in theory i might
05:57 dcook        Why do you use many koha git repos though?
05:57 dcook        Makes sense
05:56 mtj          and i only ever use git-bz with one host only, and that's bugs.kc.org
05:55 mtj          i dont wanna have to config every git repo to work with bz - i just want them all to work with bz
05:54 mtj          which makes perfect sense to me, as i use git-bz on many many koha git repos
05:53 mtj          pass... i guess i had a similar problem to you, and just made all those bz vars global
05:47 * dcook      has his third facepalm of the day
05:47 dcook        My error was caused due to that spelling mistake separating my u/n and p/w
05:47 dcook        And it turns out that you don't need that 2nd block
05:44 dcook        But I'm missing your second one...because the instructions don't say to make those global config settings
05:44 dcook        I had two bz blocks due to misspelling
05:42 mtj          ps: ignore the gitweb block
05:41 mtj          ah yep, you'll  need all that stuff correct, b4 it will work
05:40 dcook        I see one spelling mistake and I'm missing a line or two that I know I entered (or at least typed up...)
05:40 dcook        :) *
05:40 dcook        Hmmm, no. I'll look into it. Thanks for the lines :0
05:38 mtj          like that?
05:38 pastebot     "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted ".gitconfig" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/21
05:38 dcook        yep
05:37 mtj          do you?
05:37 mtj          dcook:  ive got 2 bz blocks in my ~/.gitconfig
05:35 mtj          http://git.fishsoup.net/man/git-bz.html
05:35 dcook        For "File "/apps/kohagit/git-bz/git-bz", line 866, in get_cookie_string     self.cookies = get_bugzilla_cookies(host) "
05:34 dcook        I'm getting "NameError: global name 'host' is not defined"
05:33 dcook        Mhm :/
05:33 mtj          still config problems?
05:33 mtj          dcook, i do
05:32 mtj          cait: i like it too :)
05:32 dcook        Hmm, does anyone use git bz?
05:27 cait         :)
05:26 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , File upload in MARC
05:26 mtj          after the fix - patch for bug 6874 went from 13 critic violations... to 0 :)
05:25 mtj          nice to know my qa-critic script had a bug in it...
05:24 cait         i like it :)
05:23 mtj          if anyone finds the twitterbot annoying and wants it stopped? - just let me know...
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04:37 Judit        hi
04:35 Amit_Gupta   hi bag
04:35 Amit_Gupta   heya koha
04:05 dcook        :)
04:03 cait         the morning is not very old yet :)
04:02 cait         so far so good
04:02 dcook        Having a good morning?
04:01 cait         hi dcook :)
04:01 dcook        hi cait :)
04:01 cait         hi #koha :)
04:01 cait         bye jcamins_away
03:27 dcook        No worries. I'm on track now. Thanks heaps again, jcamins
03:26 jcamins      I just followed the instructions... don't know much about setting up git-bz.
03:25 dcook        I saw something about self-auth
03:25 jcamins      Yes.
03:25 dcook        I assume the config part still needs to be run?
03:24 dcook        Sweeeet
03:22 jcamins      The other option is to just run it as ~/git-bz/git-bz all the time.
03:22 dcook        Hmm, k
03:22 jcamins      Substituting the appropriate path to the directory that holds the git-bz executable.
03:22 jcamins      Just add "export PATH=/home/dcook/git-bz:$PATH"
03:21 dcook        what kind of path structure might I need?
03:20 jcamins      .bash_profile might be preferred on suse, though.
03:20 jcamins      I prefer .profile.
03:19 dcook        In .profile or .bash_profile?
03:19 jcamins      Just add the directory with git-bz to your path.
03:19 jcamins      Oh. Uh, ignore that.
03:19 dcook        It's in the instructions
03:18 jcamins      Why are you symlinking git-bz?
03:18 dcook        Do I actually need to symlink git-bz? That's where I run into that root access problem :/
03:18 dcook        Excellent
03:16 jcamins      Right.
03:16 dcook        true linux newb moment: home directory does refer to ~/ and not a/the directory called home, yes?
03:15 jcamins      How do you do a link in mediawiki?
03:15 dcook        Hmm, I cheated and used winscp instead
03:10 dcook        I wonder..
03:08 * jcamins    isn't familiar with that.
03:08 dcook        The bizarre part is that I am specifying the absolute path (which I've had to do for past dirs I've deleted), but I still can't seem to get it to work
03:07 dcook        It has the absolute path safety feature on
03:07 jcamins      But for goodness sake, make sure you type the directory *first*.
03:07 jcamins      rm -Rf
03:07 dcook        But now I'm having issues deleting the directory *facepalm*
03:07 dcook        Well, I cloned git-bz from somewhere else, so I wanted to delete it, and re-clone it using the git specified in the instructions
03:06 dcook        Hmm, I did, but I'm all kinds of lost again
03:03 jcamins      dcook: right, just create one. :)
03:02 mtj          jcamins:  and a similar qa-script to run perl -c , on previous commits... ;)
03:01 pastebot     "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha-qa-perlcheck.pl" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/20
03:00 dcook        Couldn't find one in the root or home
03:00 jcamins      Try the .profile.
02:59 dcook        I think that we are using bash though, if random memory serves me correctly
02:59 dcook        So no idea :p
02:57 * dcook      only started using Linux last October, and only SUSE since mid-January :S
02:56 jcamins      If not, that'd change things.
02:56 jcamins      Wait... are you using bash?
02:54 jcamins      If it doesn't, add "export PATH=[gitbzdir]:$PATH"
02:54 dcook        That...could make a difference, lol
02:54 jcamins      Oh, the file might not exist.
02:54 dcook        I can't even find the profile :/
02:53 jcamins      You could also run git-bz with a complete path.
02:53 jcamins      I recally it being pretty easy.
02:53 jcamins      :(
02:52 dcook        Hmm, not having luck
02:48 dcook        Merci :)
02:47 dcook        Ahh
02:47 jcamins      ^^ dcook, that's a direct link.
02:47 wahanui      well, git bz is so much fun :) or http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration or just about anything except intuitive
02:47 jcamins      git bz?
02:45 mtj          so, i now i gotta decide if i'll fix them, or just pass-qa and make a qa note about them
02:44 jcamins      Yup.
02:43 mtj          better to know about them , than to not know
02:43 jcamins      Heh.
02:43 mtj          and my perlcritic script has just found 13 *new* perlcritic errors in that patch :)
02:42 mtj          nope, just a quick/dirty test...
02:42 jcamins      Ah.
02:42 jcamins      No description?
02:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , File upload in MARC
02:41 mtj          which is bug 6874 fyi...
02:41 mtj          so, last commit in my repo is this -> http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=head-dev/.git;a=commit;h=9b0cb1331e99134d225e669b0e6e6d07e7cff96e
02:41 jcamins      Intriguing!
02:41 jcamins      Reeeallly?
02:41 jcamins      (surprised at the fact that there are complaints)
02:41 mtj          i've sorted a perlcritic script, on the last $x commits
02:40 * jcamins    fails.
02:40 * jcamins    tries to look surprised.
02:40 jcamins      mtj: new tests?
02:40 pastebot     "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha-qa-critic.pl" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/19
02:40 mtj          hey jcamins, check this...
02:38 jcamins      dcook: ^^
02:38 wahanui      somebody said git was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
02:38 jcamins      git?
01:59 Oak          kia ora #koha
01:08 dcook        Allo #koha
00:45 libsysguy    and RDS was a top google result :p
00:45 libsysguy    well I was just starting to do some research into mysql clustering in AWS
00:44 jcamins      Or, at least, that was true when I thought about it.
00:44 libsysguy    dang it
00:44 libsysguy    oh hey jcamins….i didn't see you there
00:44 jcamins      I thought about it, but RDS can't be set up as a MySQL slave, and there were lots of reports of terrible performance from RDS.
00:44 jcamins      libsysguy: nope.
00:44 libsysguy    has anybody tested out Koha using Amazons RDS service?
00:15 Judit        well, that is only the dropdown
00:15 Judit        so fully in 3.4
00:14 Judit        3.2 The only supported dropdowns at this time are Branches, Item Types and Patron Categories.
00:13 jcamins      3.4, I think, but don't quote me on that.
00:13 Judit        do you know if runtime parameters come in koha3.2 or 3.4?
00:10 Judit        hi