Time Nick Message 21:40 mbalmer n'evening 21:38 jcamins drojf++ 21:36 drojf1 i wrote something about koha performance on the raspi, including screen recordings with and without plack if anyone is interested http://abunchofthings.net/blog/koha-on-a-raspberry-pi-opac/ 21:17 drojf1 hey cait 21:17 cait hi drojf1 21:03 jcamins Ooh, Graphics Magick is now available from Debian apt repos. 20:58 jcamins Meh. It does say it's optional. 20:58 jcamins And Data::Paginator has beat me. 20:57 ropuch Yup, Date::Pagin ones are the only ones that are not 20:56 jcamins Most are packaged. 20:55 ropuch Add libtext-unaccent-perl to the list 20:55 libsysguy so these are the missing deps I see after installing koha-common 20:55 pastebot "libsysguy" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "deps" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15 20:55 jcamins There is no package. 20:55 jcamins Maybe not. 20:54 jcamins Wait. 20:54 ropuch ;> 20:54 ropuch But web installer complain about it 20:53 ropuch Dunno, I've passed Makefile.Pl , make && make test with no errors 20:53 jcamins :D 20:53 jcamins Ooh, in a completely clean environment they build! 20:53 jcamins ropuch: why not? 20:53 ropuch libtext-unaccent-perl is rquired, but Makefile.PL won't complain about it 20:51 jcamins I'll try again with pbuilder, just in case that works better. 20:51 libsysguy *sigh* 20:50 libsysguy -_- 20:50 jcamins The Perl modules that the new solr code depends on apparently don't compile. 20:50 libsysguy ? 20:50 jcamins Well, this is unfortunate. 20:47 jcamins Hehe. 20:46 libsysguy if koha ever downloads…i forget how big the codebase is 20:45 libsysguy run them side by side and see who dies first 20:45 libsysguy that is what i am going to try and set up with catalyst 20:45 libsysguy right 20:45 jcamins Or use virtual hosts. 20:45 jcamins Just change the ports one is using. 20:45 jcamins Right. 20:45 libsysguy and it wouldn't complain too much 20:45 libsysguy but i could also run packages 20:44 jcamins Well, you can't use the scripts if you're doing a git install. 20:44 libsysguy lol 20:44 libsysguy "do I still get all the package goodness" 20:44 libsysguy :P 20:44 libsysguy ok that was my next question 20:43 jcamins It installs all the code and scripts so that you can create as many instances as you want. 20:42 * libsysguy is just curious 20:42 libsysguy so the koha-common package doesn't actually do anything more than install the deps? 20:42 jcamins You install koha-common to make it install all the dependencies, then install Koha via git. 20:41 libsysguy well that is easy enough 20:41 libsysguy oh 20:41 jcamins Just do a regular git install. 20:41 libsysguy ok so for a package newb…how do i switch it over to git once i've installed all the deps? 20:38 jcamins Oh, no, I just misspelled progress. 20:38 jcamins Ah, I'm on Debian. 20:38 ropuch I;m running Ubuntu-Server 12.04 + koha squeeze repos 20:36 ropuch Filename: pool/universe/libt/libtime-progress-perl/libtime-progress-perl_1.7-1_all.deb 20:36 ropuch Oh? 20:36 * jcamins just ran koha_perl_deps.pl -m 20:36 ropuch Oh? 20:33 jcamins Hm, no Time::Progress, either? 20:33 jcamins lol 20:33 libsysguy but to each their own :p 20:33 libsysguy well koha devel sounds more fun to me 20:33 libsysguy i see 20:32 jcamins libsysguy: being suitably dignified for the first reader at a wedding? :P 20:32 libsysguy jcamins are you doing something more important? 20:31 jcamins Not right now. 20:31 jcamins Well, I'll package those for my repo at some point. 20:31 ropuch ;> 20:30 ropuch Data::Paginator - Pagination with Moose 20:30 ropuch Uh 20:30 ropuch Date::Pagination & Paginator are the only two modules not available via apt 20:30 libsysguy paging dates of course :p 20:30 jcamins Huh. Wonder what they're fore. 20:29 ropuch Dunno, Makefile.PL from master branch wanted it installed ;> 20:28 jcamins Date::Pagination and Paginator? What are those? 20:27 ropuch You need to add repo and key 20:27 ropuch http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze 20:26 libsysguy or just no available at all 20:26 libsysguy are they in sid? 20:26 ropuch Date::Pagination & Paginator are the only two modules not available via apt 20:25 libsysguy but like i said, i probably borked the install lol 20:24 libsysguy and it was missing CHI, DateTime, and Moose 20:24 libsysguy yeah that is what i was trying to use it for 20:24 ropuch I;m installing koha-comman only to get dependendencies ;> 20:24 drojf point 20:24 drojf yes you just have to pint it to git 20:24 ropuch Yup 20:23 libsysguy with koha-common you can still run a git install right? 20:23 libsysguy yeah i am reinstalling now 20:23 drojf whoops 20:22 libsysguy i think i borked the install trying to get it to run alongside my catalyst work 20:22 drojf :) 20:22 drojf apt-get install koha-common, done 20:21 jcamins It's very easy. 20:21 libsysguy I haven't dont a koha install in so long I've forgotten how :p 20:21 libsysguy thanks drojf! I'll test it out on my test box (when I finish setting it up) 20:20 francharb see ya 20:20 francharb good morning/afternoon/night all 20:18 drojf libsysguy: you would want to try plack on a test install first maybe but from what i can see the staff client works quite good with it. but i have to admit i don't do real library work with it 20:16 drojf and it scrolls my name :) 20:16 drojf rangi++ # awesome, no google :) 20:09 jcamins I had nginx in front of Apache. 20:00 libsysguy :p 20:00 libsysguy w00t catalyst is at the top of the supported list 20:00 rangi gotta go feed the kids bbiab 20:00 rangi http://plackperl.org/ 19:59 libsysguy crap 19:59 rangi nope 19:56 * libsysguy is not too familiar with it 19:56 libsysguy plack is basically a caching engine right? 19:55 rangi it is really fast 19:55 libsysguy well that is promising 19:54 rangi drojf has it running on his raspberry pi, and from all accounts works well 19:54 libsysguy gotcha 19:54 rangi he is the main plack person 19:54 libsysguy which is…interesting 19:54 rangi id try to catch up with dobrica 19:54 libsysguy so i just get the devel list 19:53 libsysguy its been awhile since i've been on the main board 19:53 libsysguy yeah i had heard rumors of that too 19:53 libsysguy LOL 19:53 libsysguy right…not a picky one 19:53 rangi its way more ready than the faux koha implementation... but comparing ourselves to them ... isnt really even worth doing 19:52 rangi not sure, i think some are running it in production, but youd want to pick the client to try it on 19:52 libsysguy and plack still isn't ready for intranet right/ 19:51 rangi you need either plack, or apache or something behind it still 19:51 libsysguy ugh (wishes we had clustering set up) 19:51 rangi well you cant run koha just with nginx 19:51 rangi specially with something like puppet so you can out updates across a cluster 19:51 libsysguy jcamins was saying he saw a pretty big performance boost 19:50 libsysguy speaking of scaling…I have been seeing some stuff about koha and nginx 19:50 rangi but it scales much better 19:50 rangi well at the start it wont it will take a chunk of time to set up, thats probably where its stuck at 19:49 libsysguy may make his life easier 19:49 libsysguy I may have to hit up larry about that 19:49 rangi push the package to the repo, then apt-get update; upgrade 19:48 rangi libsysguy: the win comes in when you have repos set up, you can have pockets for clients 19:47 rangi drojf: there you go 19:46 * libsysguy has apparent'y been fighting uphill for a long time 19:46 libsysguy ah 19:46 rangi comes with koha 19:46 rangi its the one that the packages are built from, debian/build-git-snapshot 19:45 rangi once created my instance, just change the koha-conf.xml and virtual host to point to the git checkout 19:44 libsysguy isn't that the one that jcamins worked on? 19:44 rangi yeah there is a script to build packages too, so you can do that if you have to 19:44 libsysguy from back in the day 19:44 libsysguy i think it is an issue with custom code for some libraries 19:44 rangi what i do is install the package, set it up do a koha-create 19:43 rangi doing it the hard way then :( 19:43 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze 19:43 libsysguy I don't think so anyway 19:43 libsysguy and no 19:43 libsysguy this is for my dev install 19:43 rangi bywater isnt using the packages yet? 19:43 libsysguy i couldn't find that on the wiki 19:43 libsysguy was there a repo that i need to add? 19:42 rangi libsysguy: just install koha-common 19:42 rangi its just jquery, ill wget that file to my server it makes you feel better, i was just using their bandwidth not mine :) 19:42 libsysguy rangi do you know if there is a pacakge to install koha deps? 19:40 drojf but also more google :P 19:37 rangi now with more scrolling 19:37 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/scroller.html 19:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5981 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , OPAC: Add limits to search history 19:12 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 5981 - OPAC: Add limits to search history" 19:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #88: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/88/ 18:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #88 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:17 rangi jcamins_away: thanks for the catch with the opac nav, reverted it 17:54 drojf found it 17:51 drojf how can i mark at patch obsolete in bugzilla? 17:11 jcamins Oh! I bet my wife put some of her incense near it when I hung it up to get the wrinkles to fall out. 17:10 jcamins Lavender. 17:10 jcamins The collar of my shirt smells like flowers. 17:09 drojf :( 17:09 cait at least I know now it's something with this installation and probably not a linux problem 17:09 cait jcamins++ ropuch++ drojf++ for helping me 17:08 cait it's still broken, how frustrating 17:08 cait ok, I have to go :( 17:08 cait now it freezes again 17:08 cait started zebra server.. not sure why it was gone 17:08 cait now the opac is back but search gives no results 17:07 cait edited the http-conf and corrected a problem there 17:07 cait hmm 17:06 cait The requested URL / was not found on this server. 17:06 wahanui i guess localhost is 0.1 17:06 cait localhost 17:06 cait and the other installation is dead now 17:05 cait in my 3.6.x installation it works 17:05 cait ook 17:00 jcamins Welcome back. 16:59 cait back 16:58 drojf long reboot… 16:53 cait rebooting now 16:53 cait was cataloging something into the second installation 16:53 cait or I would have been gone 16:53 cait I didn't reboot yet 16:52 jcamins Darn. 16:52 jcamins After rebooting? 16:52 cait one moment 16:52 cait or.. mom 16:52 cait and it has the same problem 16:52 cait I have a second installaton on this computer 16:51 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 16:51 cait interesting 16:51 cait I will reboot 16:51 cait ok 16:51 jcamins (it shouldn't be possible for them to get out of sync, but I'm running out of ideas) 16:50 cait hm 16:50 jcamins I had in mind the entire system, in case it's the TT files stored in shared memory. 16:50 wahanui apache is, like, the ram hog 16:50 cait hm apache? 16:50 jcamins *? 16:50 jcamins Try restarting the server/ 16:49 cait js 16:49 cait nothing in opac-user 16:49 jcamins Okay, that's weird. 16:48 cait opac-authorities for example 16:48 cait hm other pages are fast 16:48 cait let me check 16:46 jcamins Do you have anything in opacuserjs? 16:46 jcamins Do other pages in the OPAC load quickly? 16:44 cait perhaps at least something in there now 16:43 cait I will check the error logs again after this search... 16:43 cait it's still th same 16:43 cait bah 16:37 jcamins Clear your browser cache? 16:36 jcamins Drat. 16:36 cait browser not reacting 16:35 jcamins Try the search again? 16:35 jcamins But if you had memcached running, that might have had the old koha-conf.xml cached. 16:35 jcamins Good. 16:34 jcamins Okay. 16:34 cait no grs 16:34 cait same for auth 16:34 cait dom 16:33 cait checking 16:33 cait ok 16:31 jcamins You installed it with DOM, but I'm wondering if koha-conf.xml wasn't rewritten for some reason. 16:31 jcamins Check zebra_bib_index_mode in koha-conf.xml? 16:30 jcamins That's what happens when your indexing configuration files are missing. 16:29 cait only thing I haven't restarted or redone now 16:29 * cait will try that 16:29 cait restart memcache maybe? 16:29 cait hm 16:28 cait I have noooo idea whatsoever is happening 16:28 cait the logs are clean 16:28 cait and in opac i ttakes a 100 years to come up with omething similar 16:28 cait yeah :( 16:28 drojf oh that looks weird :( 16:27 cait I did -r 16:27 * cait reindexes again 16:27 jcamins Hm. 16:27 jcamins o.O 16:26 cait http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/Auswahl_002.png 16:26 cait but the result list is broken 16:26 cait it's fast in staff 16:26 drojf i had an error in the sandbox about that 16:26 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 16:26 cait interesting 16:26 ropuch jcamins: that's my guess too 16:26 drojf do oyu have highlighting on? 16:26 drojf oh 16:26 drojf do you have a second browser? 16:26 ropuch And how's the search in staff client? 16:26 jcamins Could it be javascript? 16:26 cait sorry, had to take care of the washing machine 16:25 cait then after a minute or so i get results 16:25 cait seems to freeze the browser 16:25 cait still the same 16:19 drojf have you cleared your cache? i'm not sure what totally broken means 16:19 jcamins Do searches in the staff client work? 16:19 jcamins Uh-oh. 16:18 cait result list is totally broken now for me :( 16:18 cait oh no 16:18 cait *sigh* 16:18 cait no :( 16:18 drojf ok that does not sound like this bug 16:18 drojf cait: http://www.heise.de/open/meldung/Schaltsekunde-Linux-kann-einfrieren-1629683.html if you rebooted since then it should not be anything like that 16:18 cait only a search in opac is broken 16:18 cait I can watch tv, use the staff client... everything I want on this laptop 16:18 cait not my symptoms I fear :( 16:18 cait no 16:17 ropuch I had a situation, when nullmaler was trying to send things via mail command, which was not installed,nullmailer was trying, syslogd was loggin and all this read/write disk operation slowed whole box to turtle speed 16:17 cait everything besides a search using zebra is behaving normally :( 16:17 cait hm 16:16 drojf if you have not looked i am serious. what was it about? ntp smeothing something. i think you would generally see that you use a lot of cpu. wait 16:16 cait but how would I do that in case you are? 16:15 cait drojf: nope - loking at this smiley I am not sure if you are seroius 16:15 cait learning... slowly 16:15 drojf did you check for that one second bug we had a few days ago? ;) 16:15 cait still a linux newb 16:15 cait thx ropuch :) 16:15 ropuch Just a guess, though 16:15 ropuch iotop will show disk operations, the problem might be linux-related 16:14 cait and then after waiting a long time I get results 16:14 cait when I do a search it looks like the browser died 16:14 ropuch I had one testing server killed by nullmailer + rsyslogd 16:14 cait I am not sure what i woul dsee ther 16:14 cait ropuch: waiting for the inex to finish 16:14 ropuch cait: try to check top / iotop output 16:12 cait I am out of ideas 16:12 cait if that does not fix it 16:12 cait and doing a total reindex now 16:12 cait switched to dom indexing 16:12 cait I have rerun makefile 16:12 cait I should not be able to brak something in master :( 16:12 cait no idea 16:11 drojf did you break something then? 16:11 cait ok 16:11 cait sigh 16:10 drojf cait: they do have titles 16:08 drojf oh. plack. better restart 16:07 cait yes please 16:07 drojf cait: so i should turn it on and see? it was off 16:06 drojf yes but reading first would have helped ;) 16:06 jcamins I had that response too earlier. 16:06 jcamins drojf: it's less than obvious. 16:06 drojf thanks 16:06 drojf yes 16:06 jcamins drojf: default 16:06 drojf stupid 16:06 drojf ah 16:06 drojf i can only choose a file 16:05 drojf is the general xslt option gone? 16:02 drojf it has a title. but i think it's not xslt here, wait 16:02 cait and is it the xslt view? 16:02 cait showing 16:02 cait does it have a title? 16:01 drojf what exactly should i look at? 16:00 drojf ok mom 15:59 cait and look at the first result on any result page 15:59 cait and search someting 15:59 cait go to your opac 15:59 cait that is perfect 15:57 drojf my git is master. or do you mean something else? 15:56 cait could oyu test something for me? 15:56 cait drojf: do oyu have an installation on master? 15:56 cait very close 15:55 jcamins lol 15:55 drojf or i slipped somewhere in the spreadsheat and all that is not true :D 15:54 jcamins Wow. 15:53 drojf *flood* 15:53 drojf 847 Not completed or Not displayed 15:53 drojf 897 Córdoba, Argentina [Jul, Aug, or Sept] (A5) 15:53 drojf 888 Ibadan, Nigeria [Jul, Aug, or Sept] (A4) 15:53 drojf 898 Reno, NV, USA [Sept or Oct] (A3) 15:53 drojf 860 Erie, Pennsylvania, USA [Summer] (A2) 15:53 drojf 845 The National Capital Region, USA [Oct or Mar] (A1) 15:53 jcamins Okay, it worked in 3.8.2. 15:53 * jcamins is currently finding that OPAC paging is highly broken. 15:52 jcamins *standings 15:52 jcamins drojf: what are the current standigns? 15:52 drojf wow. that kohacon 2013 survey is really thrilling 15:36 ropuch top/iotop ;> 15:35 cait someone an idea about that? :( 15:35 cait after it used to be quite fast 15:35 cait where getting reseults nealry takes a minute now 15:35 cait I have an installation 15:35 cait ok 15:35 drojf only "regression" is allowed as keyword 15:35 drojf Schlüsselwort namens „sandbox“ ist nicht bekannt. Sie können sich die Liste gültiger Schlüsselwörter anzeigen lassen. 15:34 drojf i added a comment 15:33 cait maybe a keyword sandbox if that works 15:33 cait add a note to the bug? 15:33 cait drojf: yay! 15:30 jcamins Yay! 15:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, 5p4m, ASSIGNED , Show HTML5 video/ audio in OPAC for media files in 856 15:30 drojf w00t. my patch for bug 8377 works in a sandbox :) 15:23 francharb :) 15:23 * cait reads back 15:23 wahanui francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke. 15:23 drojf hey francharb 15:23 cait hi all 15:23 cait hi francharb 15:22 ropuch Hi francharb 15:22 francharb hello #koha 15:20 mbalmer (bbq party) 15:20 ropuch :) 15:20 ropuch See ya 15:20 mbalmer anyway, gotta run, laterz.. 15:19 ropuch ;) 15:19 ropuch ouzo++ 15:19 mbalmer yes, that's for sure, ouza, metaxa, metaxa and nice food. I am jealous a bit... 15:18 drojf mbalmer: i bet he checks the beach ;) 15:17 huginn mbalmer: The operation succeeded. 15:17 mbalmer @later tell mveron check your email ;) 15:09 jcamins Thanks. 15:09 cait give me 5 min 15:09 cait have to update first 15:09 jcamins cait: yup. 15:09 cait current master? 15:09 cait jcamins: where? 15:01 jcamins Could you please do a search on the OPAC that gets more than two pages of results, and see if the next button works? 14:58 jcamins Unfortunately, I can't find a search that gets me enough results. 14:58 cait I used it for my presentation too 14:58 cait magnuse++ 14:53 * jcamins remembers magnuse's server. 14:50 jcamins Anyone around with a current master install? 12:55 cait semarie++ 12:54 jcamins semarie++ 12:54 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.1°C (2:43 PM CEST on July 07, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 12:54 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 12:08 huginn ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is 27.0°C (1:30 PM CEST on July 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 12:08 ropuch @wunder Wroclaw 12:07 ropuch I feel less prductive than i should be ;> 12:07 ropuch Huh, I'm considering a quick nap, too 12:06 cait sleep well :) 12:06 cait ok 12:06 rangi :) 12:06 rangi maybe tomorrow, time for sleep now 12:06 cait I would do 12:06 cait name break bug number description break time 12:05 cait to give more room for the description 12:05 cait perhaps another brak after tne name 12:05 cait I didn't dare to ask you for the bug description :) 12:05 cait :) 12:05 rangi now i just need css help 12:05 rangi refresh again :) 12:04 rangi right 11:59 cait ah caching maybe 11:59 cait hm weird 11:59 rangi nope didnt make it smaller 11:58 cait still experimenting? 11:58 cait you made it smaller again :) 11:57 cait rangi++ 11:57 cait better :) 11:57 rangi ill see if can get the bug name in too 11:56 rangi hows that? 11:56 rangi but the live bit i can make bigger 11:56 rangi but if people like it, i can make it update real time too 11:56 cait ah ok 11:56 rangi well the scoreboard part isnt automatic yet 11:55 rangi k 11:55 cait but first I have to buy some food 11:55 cait I will have to make my name show up there :) 11:54 cait perhaps make the script of the live update a bit bigger? 11:54 cait :) 11:54 rangi refresh now 11:52 cait and fudge sponsoring ;) 11:46 rangi yep 11:45 cait we could combine with a monthly scoreboard 11:40 cait :) 11:40 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/scroller.html 11:39 drojf i bet we could do something crazy with ad placement and that thing. sponsor a signoffer and see your ad displayed on koha-community.org. it's just that i hate ads 11:38 cait ok, ... was thinking it 11:38 cait I didn't say that!! hehe 11:37 drojf yeah, shoot kittens :D 11:37 cait or... kittens :) 11:37 cait and ... rainbows :) 11:37 cait at the same time 11:37 cait make it 3 11:37 cait hm 11:36 drojf it should do something if all 5 are done by the same person. like, shoot rainbows 11:32 cait where could we put that? 11:32 cait hm 11:32 cait oh nice 11:32 rangi it shows the last 5 sign offs 11:31 rangi well sign offs 11:31 rangi yep 11:30 cait updates of bug work? 11:30 rangi updates in real time 11:30 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/scroller.html 11:28 * cait gets nervous 11:27 drojf mh! 11:27 cait hm? 11:26 rangi hmm 10:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7299 normal, P3, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Stable , ILSDI HoldItem service does't set the itemnumber in reserves table 10:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8335 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Missing Icon PR.png or typo in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl 10:43 jenkins_koha * alex.arnaud: Bug 7299 pass itemnumber in ILSDI holditem service 10:43 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 8335 - Missing Icon PR.png or typo in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl 10:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #87: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/87/ 10:36 drojf it's not even really dark yet. weird 10:36 drojf i don't really see anything, i just hear thunder 10:35 cait i want one too! 10:35 cait ooh 10:34 drojf weeeeeee thunderstorm again 09:59 drojf grml. error in my test data 09:57 drojf yes 09:57 cait ? 09:57 cait did I spell that right 09:56 drojf heh 09:56 drojf was 09:56 cait drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi! 09:56 drojf fortunately 09:56 drojf forunately that illness is very long ago 09:56 wahanui cait: I forgot drojf 09:56 cait forget drojf 09:56 cait hope you are no longer ill :) 09:56 cait hm 09:54 drojf lol 09:54 wahanui well, drojf is ill and bored now! ;) 09:54 drojf drojf? 09:52 wahanui mveron is from switzerland, a koha developer and creating some nice new features! 09:52 cait mveron? 09:52 cait mveron is from switzerland, a koha developer and creating some nice new features! 09:52 wahanui cait: I forgot mveron 09:52 cait forget mveron 09:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #87 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 09:44 wahanui rumour has it mveron is amazed as well. You did some more Koha installations in Gemrany since then. Would like to spread Koha a little bit more in Switzerland as well 09:44 mbalmer mveron? 09:25 drojf nevermind, i changed it to no coin and just use one of the fields. its a lot less code like this 09:16 cait ? 09:12 drojf 856 h and l are the same thing. if i have both and they are not the same, i have to do something. i guess it's more acceptable for the user to just choose one so the result can be reproduced 09:10 cait depends on the patch maybe? 09:10 cait lol 09:09 drojf will my patch fail QA if i flip a coin to make a decision at some point? 08:17 cait ok 08:15 drojf if you find a law that forbids my internet connection to be instable, slow and sucky please tell me 08:14 drojf yeah, it law :) 08:13 cait the right atmosphere to get started on my it law reading for today 08:12 drojf :D 08:12 cait very zen... 08:11 cait oh right 08:11 drojf enjoying the quiet channel ;) 08:11 cait what are you doing here on a weekend? ;) 08:11 drojf hi cait :) 08:11 cait hi drojf :) 08:08 drojf good day #koha 07:45 mtompset Enjoy the weekend, #koha. 07:30 mtompset I think the price has gone to 0, because you can't get it. :) 07:24 mtompset Cool. We have something that is out of print. :) 07:22 mtompset ISBN: 1556190298 07:22 mtompset Shoot... both items entered as mpx. 07:19 mtompset 65.00mpx 07:19 cait ? 07:19 cait and x as a placeholder 07:19 mtompset Maybe it was supposed to be mexican peso. 07:17 mtompset Hmmm... doesn't match anything. 07:16 mtompset MPX 07:16 mtompset Hmm.m.... no, but that reminds me ... I should figure out that other bizarre one. 07:15 cait do you have DM too? 07:15 cait oh :) 07:15 mtompset French Franc. 07:15 cait I don't know what frf is :) 07:15 mtompset Yes, we have some OOOOLD data. ;) 07:13 mtompset Interesting... we even have a FRF figure in there 07:08 cait mostly used for acq - I don't think it's used in circ, but might be wrong 07:07 mtompset ah... currencies and exchange rates. 07:06 cait administration module home page - at the bottom 07:06 cait not talking about prefs :) 07:06 mtompset CurrencyFormat is the only syspref I see. 07:05 cait perhaps you should file an enh request for multiple currencies 07:05 cait in the acq area 07:05 cait it's one of the last points on the administration page 07:04 cait we are using 3.6.3 and it's there :) 07:04 cait hm no 07:04 mtompset That must be newer than 3.6.3 07:04 cait it should be "checked" and also be 1.0000 07:03 cait administration > currencies 07:02 mtompset How do you check your active currency? 07:00 mtompset http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals 07:00 mtompset Just trying to help make the world a better place. Considering that language development activities overlap quite a bit with UN Millenium Development goals. 06:58 mtompset We're not to that stage yet, but I am sure we will head there. 06:56 cait it's a cool service :) 06:55 mtompset For example, some Filipino language may have a close similarity to a Malaysian one, and some person in Malaysia may want to check out a book from the Philippines. 06:55 cait there might be someone with ideas/best practices 06:55 cait maybe ask on the list how others do it? 06:54 cait hm 06:54 cait ah ok 06:54 mtompset Yes. 06:54 cait from branch to branch? 06:54 cait do you want them to be able to order books? 06:54 mtompset An installation for each country only solves half the problem of currency. 06:54 cait but I am not sure what the best way to do it would be 06:54 cait I think some people have figured out how to build a union catalog from separate koha installations 06:53 cait yeah exactly 06:53 mtompset But then how would the folks in country X know about the books in country Y? 06:53 cait instead of a system with branches 06:53 cait I tihnk easiest would be an installation for each library 06:52 mtompset it's a combination. 06:52 cait hm. 06:52 cait ok 06:52 cait or is it only dealing with the gifts and books (acq) 06:52 mtompset Yes. 06:52 cait mtompset: you have libraries in different countries, right? 06:52 mtompset They donate books, or buy books and bring them. 06:52 mtompset We have colleagues coming from abroad internationally. 06:51 mtompset Doesn't quite work for our situation, though. 06:51 mbalmer then in Koha, you use only local currency 06:51 mbalmer (using SIP, that is) 06:51 mbalmer hook up a real point of sale system to Koha and you are done. 06:51 mtompset I wonder if they agree on a base currency and enter it as such. 06:50 cait problem 06:50 cait it's an interesting problems 06:50 cait but I am not sure how they deal with currencies 06:50 cait there was opus presenting at kohacon - I thought they were... 06:50 cait hm 06:49 mtompset How many of those are using Koha? 06:49 mtompset I suppose the multi-currency is probably only a problem for international libraries. 06:48 cait or other fine related preferences 06:48 cait like the maxfine 06:48 cait and some of the preferences are global 06:48 * mtompset nods. 06:48 cait and confusing 06:47 cait I mean you could probably have different currencies in items for different branches... but because there are no currency symbols it could get a bit messy 06:47 mtompset My colleague was asking for a price list, so he could generate a spreadsheet for insurance purposes. 06:47 cait if you don't use acquisitions... I think it doesn't matter so much in other places 06:46 cait it's mostly used by acquisitions 06:46 cait the active currency setting is global for all 06:46 cait not at the moment :( 06:46 mtompset Can different branches have different currencies? 06:45 cait when you charge a patron in circ 06:44 cait so the replacement prices and things are correct 06:44 mtompset I was telling my colleague this about the single currency. 06:44 cait because the item data should all be your active currency 06:44 mtompset Okay, a backend fix it is. 06:44 cait the problem is, that you want to bring it all to one currency 06:44 cait I think I would try sql 06:44 cait they will not be updated 06:43 cait so if the items with the barcodes are already there 06:43 cait you can't overlay items 06:43 mtompset what would happen if we imported the fixed version? 06:43 mtompset Let's say we generate a MARC file with duplicate data with the fix. 06:42 mtompset Okay... next question... 06:42 mtompset I think it is adapting. 06:42 mtompset don't worry. My grammar has been deteriorating as I deal with non-Canadian English sources. 06:41 cait sorry for bad grammar 06:41 cait fields 06:41 cait you have to put the information in the 952$g, or v 06:40 mtompset I was hoping that when we did the import that 852$9 would have gone into items.price 06:40 cait that will never work 06:40 cait ok 06:40 mtompset items.price 06:39 cait where is it missing? 06:39 cait what did you expect to happen? 06:39 mtompset yes. 06:39 cait so the data is in the marcxml 06:39 mtompset Not a problem... I'm half-awake, and it's the middle of the day. :) 06:38 cait just got up 06:38 cait I am still a bit sleepy 06:38 cait perhaps we should start over before I tell you something wrong 06:38 cait but you confused me a bit :) 06:38 cait hm not in items 06:37 mtompset The problem is there a currency field too? 06:37 cait you wanted it to go in items? 06:37 mtompset Yes. 06:37 cait I was thinking about the price fields in items 06:37 mtompset Look, we were importing data from multiple horrific sources. 06:37 cait where did you expect it to go? 06:36 mtompset Yes. 852. 06:36 cait not 952? 06:36 ropuch It should be easy to fix though 06:36 cait hm you said 852? 06:35 mtompset I know some did work. 06:35 mtompset I didn't check. 06:35 cait 2.50 - did that not work too? 06:35 cait ah 06:35 mtompset 2.50 06:34 mtompset 50.70php 06:34 mtompset 5.25gbp 06:34 mtompset Yes, that was the price field. 06:34 cait that the price fields don't like non numeric things 06:34 mtompset Gift 06:34 cait there is a bug about that 06:34 * mtompset is looking for others. 06:34 cait there you go 06:33 mtompset 365.00usd 06:33 cait no currency symbol 06:33 cait decimal point 06:33 mtompset The prices were not consistently formatted. 06:33 cait the price will only work when you format it like 5.00 06:32 ropuch Guten Tag, cait [; 06:32 cait can you give me an example? 06:32 mtompset That's another problem. 06:32 mtompset However, the items.marcxml actually has the data in it. 06:32 ropuch ;> 06:32 cait and good morning ropuch :) 06:32 ropuch mtompset: it's 8:30 am, saturday here 06:32 cait how was your price formatted? 06:32 mtompset It wasn't transferred to the appropriate field. 06:31 mtompset We had the price in 852$9 06:31 mtompset Our library imported their data from MARC21 format records. 06:31 mtompset Maybe you have some thoughts on this. 06:31 cait hi mtompset :) 06:30 mtompset Hi, cait. 06:30 * mtompset starts trying to forget Rebbeca Black's Friday. 06:30 wahanui weekend is near! 06:30 cait weekend! 06:30 * cait waves 06:30 mtompset It's also the weekend. :) 06:29 mtompset Its afternoon here. 06:29 mtompset Greetings, ropuch. 05:56 ropuch Good morning 05:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7286 enhancement, P2, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , Introduce rebuild_zebra_sliced.zsh to recursively rebuild zebra & be error proof 05:19 mtompset Interesting enhancement bug 7286. 04:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8323 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Pushed to Stable , User created lists not sorting properly 04:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7286 enhancement, P2, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , Introduce rebuild_zebra_sliced.zsh to recursively rebuild zebra & be error proof 04:11 jenkins_koha * chrish: Bug 8323 fixing year sorting of a list 04:11 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7286: rebuild_zebra_sliced for biblios and authorities 04:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #86: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/86/ 03:22 mtompset Greetings, cail. 03:22 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 03:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #86 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8314 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Missing MARCISBNS param in opac-detail.pl 01:34 jenkins_koha dcook: Bug 8314 Add MARCISBNs parameter to opac-detail.pl to show multiple isbns in OPAC 01:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #85: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/85/ 01:07 rangi Sweet 01:05 wajasu i did: git am <patch> ; git dff --stat master bug7143 ; git difftool master bug7143; verified fix ; git format-patch origin 01:02 wajasu i can devel on my archlinux, with my VM sshfs on top of the kohaclone! So i get to reuse by local koha repo and switch branches! 00:58 rangi Yeah git is awesome 00:57 * wajasu i love git! 00:57 * wajasu a patch and a signoff in two days. what a roll! 00:56 rangi Yay! 00:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 00:56 wajasu rangi: ok. i signed off bug 7143 00:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #85 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED) 00:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, sam-sanders, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules 00:43 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Follow up for TTParser test 00:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #84: FIXED in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/84/ 00:43 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!