Time  Nick         Message
00:43 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
00:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #84: FIXED in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/84/
00:43 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Follow up for TTParser test
00:43 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, sam-sanders, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules
00:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #85 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED)
00:56 wajasu       rangi: ok. i  signed off bug 7143
00:56 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
00:56 rangi        Yay!
00:57 * wajasu     a patch and a signoff in two days. what a roll!
00:57 * wajasu     i love git!
00:58 rangi        Yeah git is awesome
01:02 wajasu       i can devel on my archlinux, with my VM sshfs on top of the kohaclone! So i get to reuse by local koha repo and switch branches!
01:05 wajasu       i  did:  git am <patch>  ;  git dff --stat master bug7143 ;  git difftool master bug7143;  verified fix ; git format-patch origin
01:07 rangi        Sweet
01:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #85: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/85/
01:34 jenkins_koha dcook: Bug 8314 Add MARCISBNs parameter to opac-detail.pl to show multiple isbns in OPAC
01:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8314 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Missing MARCISBNS param in opac-detail.pl
03:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #86 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:22 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
03:22 mtompset     Greetings, cail.
04:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #86: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/86/
04:11 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7286: rebuild_zebra_sliced for biblios and authorities
04:11 jenkins_koha * chrish: Bug 8323 fixing year sorting of a list
04:11 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7286 enhancement, P2, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , Introduce rebuild_zebra_sliced.zsh to recursively rebuild zebra & be error proof
04:11 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8323 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Pushed to Stable , User created lists not sorting properly
05:19 mtompset     Interesting enhancement bug 7286.
05:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7286 enhancement, P2, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , Introduce rebuild_zebra_sliced.zsh to recursively rebuild zebra & be error proof
05:56 ropuch       Good morning
06:29 mtompset     Greetings, ropuch.
06:29 mtompset     Its afternoon here.
06:30 mtompset     It's also the weekend. :)
06:30 * cait       waves
06:30 cait         weekend!
06:30 wahanui      weekend is near!
06:30 * mtompset   starts trying to forget Rebbeca Black's Friday.
06:30 mtompset     Hi, cait.
06:31 cait         hi mtompset :)
06:31 mtompset     Maybe you have some thoughts on this.
06:31 mtompset     Our library imported their data from MARC21 format records.
06:31 mtompset     We had the price in 852$9
06:32 mtompset     It wasn't transferred to the appropriate field.
06:32 cait         how was your price formatted?
06:32 ropuch       mtompset: it's 8:30 am, saturday here
06:32 cait         and good morning ropuch :)
06:32 ropuch       ;>
06:32 mtompset     However, the items.marcxml actually has the data in it.
06:32 mtompset     That's another problem.
06:32 cait         can you give me an example?
06:32 ropuch       Guten Tag, cait [;
06:33 cait         the price will only work when you format it like 5.00
06:33 mtompset     The prices were not consistently formatted.
06:33 cait         decimal point
06:33 cait         no currency symbol
06:33 mtompset     365.00usd
06:34 cait         there you go
06:34 * mtompset   is looking for others.
06:34 cait         there is  a bug about that
06:34 mtompset     Gift
06:34 cait         that the price fields don't like non numeric things
06:34 mtompset     Yes, that was the price field.
06:34 mtompset     5.25gbp
06:34 mtompset     50.70php
06:35 mtompset     2.50
06:35 cait         ah
06:35 cait         2.50 - did that not work too?
06:35 mtompset     I didn't check.
06:35 mtompset     I know some did work.
06:36 cait         hm you said 852?
06:36 ropuch       It should be easy to fix though
06:36 cait         not 952?
06:36 mtompset     Yes. 852.
06:37 cait         where did you expect it to go?
06:37 mtompset     Look, we were importing data from multiple horrific sources.
06:37 cait         I was thinking about the price fields in items
06:37 mtompset     Yes.
06:37 cait         you wanted it to go in items?
06:37 mtompset     The problem is there a currency field too?
06:38 cait         hm not in items
06:38 cait         but you confused me a bit :)
06:38 cait         perhaps we should start over before I tell you something wrong
06:38 cait         I am still a bit sleepy
06:38 cait         just got up
06:39 mtompset     Not a problem... I'm half-awake, and it's the middle of the day. :)
06:39 cait         so the data is in the marcxml
06:39 mtompset     yes.
06:39 cait         what did you expect to happen?
06:39 cait         where is it missing?
06:40 mtompset     items.price
06:40 cait         ok
06:40 cait         that will never work
06:40 mtompset     I was hoping that when we did the import that 852$9 would have gone into items.price
06:41 cait         you have to put the information in the 952$g, or v
06:41 cait         fields
06:41 cait         sorry for bad grammar
06:42 mtompset     don't worry. My grammar has been deteriorating as I deal with non-Canadian English sources.
06:42 mtompset     I think it is adapting.
06:42 mtompset     Okay... next question...
06:43 mtompset     Let's say we generate a MARC file with duplicate data with the fix.
06:43 mtompset     what would happen if we imported the fixed version?
06:43 cait         you can't overlay items
06:43 cait         so if the items with the barcodes are already there
06:44 cait         they will not be updated
06:44 cait         I think I would try sql
06:44 cait         the problem is, that you want to bring it all to one currency
06:44 mtompset     Okay, a backend fix it is.
06:44 cait         because the item data should all be your active currency
06:44 mtompset     I was telling my colleague this about the single currency.
06:44 cait         so the replacement prices and things are correct
06:45 cait         when you charge a patron in circ
06:46 mtompset     Can different branches have different currencies?
06:46 cait         not at the moment :(
06:46 cait         the active currency setting is global for all
06:46 cait         it's mostly used by acquisitions
06:47 cait         if you don't use acquisitions... I think it doesn't matter so much in other places
06:47 mtompset     My colleague was asking for a price list, so he could generate a spreadsheet for insurance purposes.
06:47 cait         I mean you could probably have different currencies in items for different branches... but because there are no currency symbols it could get a bit messy
06:48 cait         and confusing
06:48 * mtompset   nods.
06:48 cait         and some of the preferences are global
06:48 cait         like the maxfine
06:48 cait         or other fine related preferences
06:49 mtompset     I suppose the multi-currency is probably only a problem for international libraries.
06:49 mtompset     How many of those are using Koha?
06:50 cait         hm
06:50 cait         there was opus presenting at kohacon - I thought they were...
06:50 cait         but I am not sure how they deal with currencies
06:50 cait         it's an interesting problems
06:50 cait         problem
06:51 mtompset     I wonder if they agree on a base currency and enter it as such.
06:51 mbalmer      hook up a real point of sale system to Koha and you are done.
06:51 mbalmer      (using SIP, that is)
06:51 mbalmer      then in Koha, you use only local currency
06:51 mtompset     Doesn't quite work for our situation, though.
06:52 mtompset     We have colleagues coming from abroad internationally.
06:52 mtompset     They donate books, or buy books and bring them.
06:52 cait         mtompset: you have libraries in different countries, right?
06:52 mtompset     Yes.
06:52 cait         or is it only dealing with the gifts and books (acq)
06:52 cait         ok
06:52 cait         hm.
06:52 mtompset     it's a combination.
06:53 cait         I tihnk easiest would be an installation for each library
06:53 cait         instead of a system with branches
06:53 mtompset     But then how would the folks in country X know about the books in country Y?
06:53 cait         yeah exactly
06:54 cait         I think some people have figured out how to build a union catalog from separate koha installations
06:54 cait         but I am not sure what the best way to do it would be
06:54 mtompset     An installation for each country only solves half the problem of currency.
06:54 cait         do you want them to be able to order books?
06:54 cait         from branch to branch?
06:54 mtompset     Yes.
06:54 cait         ah ok
06:54 cait         hm
06:55 cait         maybe ask on the list how others do it?
06:55 cait         there might be someone with ideas/best practices
06:55 mtompset     For example, some Filipino language may have a close similarity to a Malaysian one, and some person in Malaysia may want to check out a book from the Philippines.
06:56 cait         it's  a cool service :)
06:58 mtompset     We're not to that stage yet, but I am sure we will head there.
07:00 mtompset     Just trying to help make the world a better place. Considering that language development activities overlap quite a bit with UN Millenium Development goals.
07:00 mtompset     http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals
07:02 mtompset     How do you check your active currency?
07:03 cait         administration > currencies
07:04 cait         it should be "checked" and also be 1.0000
07:04 mtompset     That must be newer than 3.6.3
07:04 cait         hm no
07:04 cait         we are using 3.6.3 and it's there :)
07:05 cait         it's one of the last points on the administration page
07:05 cait         in the acq area
07:05 cait         perhaps you should file an enh request for multiple currencies
07:06 mtompset     CurrencyFormat is the only syspref I see.
07:06 cait         not talking about prefs :)
07:06 cait         administration module home page - at the bottom
07:07 mtompset     ah... currencies and exchange rates.
07:08 cait         mostly used for acq - I don't think it's used in circ, but might be wrong
07:13 mtompset     Interesting... we even have a FRF figure in there
07:15 mtompset     Yes, we have some OOOOLD data. ;)
07:15 cait         I don't know what frf is :)
07:15 mtompset     French Franc.
07:15 cait         oh :)
07:15 cait         do you have DM too?
07:16 mtompset     Hmm.m.... no, but that reminds me ... I should figure out that other bizarre one.
07:16 mtompset     MPX
07:17 mtompset     Hmmm... doesn't match anything.
07:19 mtompset     Maybe it was supposed to be mexican peso.
07:19 cait         and x as a placeholder
07:19 cait         ?
07:19 mtompset     65.00mpx
07:22 mtompset     Shoot... both items entered as mpx.
07:22 mtompset     ISBN: 1556190298
07:24 mtompset     Cool. We have something that is out of print. :)
07:30 mtompset     I think the price has gone to 0, because you can't get it. :)
07:45 mtompset     Enjoy the weekend, #koha.
08:08 drojf        good day #koha
08:11 cait         hi drojf :)
08:11 drojf        hi cait :)
08:11 cait         what are you doing here on a weekend? ;)
08:11 drojf        enjoying the quiet channel ;)
08:11 cait         oh right
08:12 cait         very zen...
08:12 drojf        :D
08:13 cait         the right atmosphere to get started on my it law reading for today
08:14 drojf        yeah, it law :)
08:15 drojf        if you find a law that forbids my internet connection to be instable, slow and sucky please tell me
08:17 cait         ok
09:09 drojf        will my patch fail QA if i flip a coin to make a decision at some point?
09:10 cait         lol
09:10 cait         depends on the patch maybe?
09:12 drojf        856 h and l are the same thing. if i have both and they are not the same, i have to do something. i guess it's more acceptable for the user to just choose one so the result can be reproduced
09:16 cait         ?
09:25 drojf        nevermind, i changed it to no coin and just use one of the fields. its a lot less code like this
09:44 mbalmer      mveron?
09:44 wahanui      rumour has it mveron is amazed as well. You did some more Koha installations in Gemrany since then. Would like to spread Koha a little bit more in Switzerland as well
09:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #87 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:52 cait         forget mveron
09:52 wahanui      cait: I forgot mveron
09:52 cait         mveron is from switzerland, a koha developer and creating some nice new features!
09:52 cait         mveron?
09:52 wahanui      mveron is from switzerland, a koha developer and creating some nice new features!
09:54 drojf        drojf?
09:54 wahanui      well, drojf is ill and bored now! ;)
09:54 drojf        lol
09:56 cait         hm
09:56 cait         hope you are no longer ill :)
09:56 cait         forget drojf
09:56 wahanui      cait: I forgot drojf
09:56 drojf        forunately that illness is very long ago
09:56 drojf        fortunately
09:56 cait         drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi!
09:56 drojf        was
09:56 drojf        heh
09:57 cait         did I spell that right
09:57 cait         ?
09:57 drojf        yes
09:59 drojf        grml. error in my test data
10:34 drojf        weeeeeee thunderstorm again
10:35 cait         ooh
10:35 cait         i want one too!
10:36 drojf        i don't really see anything, i just hear thunder
10:36 drojf        it's not even really dark yet. weird
10:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #87: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/87/
10:43 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 8335 - Missing Icon PR.png or typo in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl
10:43 jenkins_koha * alex.arnaud: Bug 7299 pass itemnumber in ILSDI holditem service
10:43 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8335 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Missing Icon PR.png or typo in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl
10:43 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7299 normal, P3, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Stable , ILSDI HoldItem service does't set the itemnumber in reserves table
11:26 rangi        hmm
11:27 cait         hm?
11:27 drojf        mh!
11:28 * cait       gets nervous
11:30 rangi        http://stats.workbuffer.org/scroller.html
11:30 rangi        updates in real time
11:30 cait         updates of bug work?
11:31 rangi        yep
11:31 rangi        well sign offs
11:32 rangi        it shows the last 5 sign offs
11:32 cait         oh nice
11:32 cait         hm
11:32 cait         where could we put that?
11:36 drojf        it should do something if all 5 are done by the same person. like, shoot rainbows
11:37 cait         hm
11:37 cait         make it 3
11:37 cait         at the same time
11:37 cait         and ... rainbows :)
11:37 cait         or... kittens :)
11:37 drojf        yeah, shoot kittens :D
11:38 cait         I didn't say that!! hehe
11:38 cait         ok, ... was thinking it
11:39 drojf        i bet we could do something crazy with ad placement and that thing. sponsor a signoffer and see your ad displayed on koha-community.org. it's just that i hate ads
11:40 rangi        http://stats.workbuffer.org/scroller.html
11:40 cait         :)
11:45 cait         we could combine with a monthly scoreboard
11:46 rangi        yep
11:52 cait         and fudge sponsoring ;)
11:54 rangi        refresh now
11:54 cait         :)
11:54 cait         perhaps make the script of the live update a bit bigger?
11:55 cait         I will have to make my name show up there :)
11:55 cait         but first I have to buy some food
11:55 rangi        k
11:56 rangi        well the scoreboard part isnt automatic yet
11:56 cait         ah ok
11:56 rangi        but if people like it, i can make it update real time too
11:56 rangi        but the live bit i can make bigger
11:56 rangi        hows that?
11:57 rangi        ill see if can get the bug name in too
11:57 cait         better :)
11:57 cait         rangi++
11:58 cait         you made it smaller again :)
11:58 cait         still experimenting?
11:59 rangi        nope didnt make it smaller
11:59 cait         hm weird
11:59 cait         ah caching maybe
12:04 rangi        right
12:05 rangi        refresh again :)
12:05 rangi        now i just need css help
12:05 cait         :)
12:05 cait         I didn't dare to ask you for the bug description :)
12:05 cait         perhaps another brak after tne name
12:05 cait         to give more room for the description
12:06 cait         name break bug number description break time
12:06 cait         I would do
12:06 rangi        maybe tomorrow, time for sleep now
12:06 rangi        :)
12:06 cait         ok
12:06 cait         sleep well :)
12:07 ropuch       Huh, I'm considering a quick nap, too
12:07 ropuch       I feel less prductive than i should be ;>
12:08 ropuch       @wunder Wroclaw
12:08 huginn       ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is 27.0°C (1:30 PM CEST on July 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
12:54 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
12:54 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.1°C (2:43 PM CEST on July 07, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
12:54 jcamins      semarie++
12:55 cait         semarie++
14:50 jcamins      Anyone around with a current master install?
14:53 * jcamins    remembers magnuse's server.
14:58 cait         magnuse++
14:58 cait         I used it for my presentation too
14:58 jcamins      Unfortunately, I can't find a search that gets me enough results.
15:01 jcamins      Could you please do a search on the OPAC that gets more than two pages of results, and see if the next button works?
15:09 cait         jcamins: where?
15:09 cait         current master?
15:09 jcamins      cait: yup.
15:09 cait         have to update first
15:09 cait         give me 5 min
15:09 jcamins      Thanks.
15:17 mbalmer      @later tell mveron check your email ;)
15:17 huginn       mbalmer: The operation succeeded.
15:18 drojf        mbalmer: i bet he checks the beach ;)
15:19 mbalmer      yes, that's for sure, ouza, metaxa, metaxa and nice food.  I am jealous a bit...
15:19 ropuch       ouzo++
15:19 ropuch       ;)
15:20 mbalmer      anyway, gotta run, laterz..
15:20 ropuch       See ya
15:20 ropuch       :)
15:20 mbalmer      (bbq party)
15:22 francharb    hello #koha
15:22 ropuch       Hi francharb
15:23 cait         hi francharb
15:23 cait         hi all
15:23 drojf        hey francharb
15:23 wahanui      francharb falls asleep easily at sea.  Don't believe me?  Just ask Brooke.
15:23 * cait       reads back
15:23 francharb    :)
15:30 drojf        w00t. my patch for bug 8377 works in a sandbox :)
15:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, 5p4m, ASSIGNED , Show HTML5 video/ audio in OPAC for media files in 856
15:30 jcamins      Yay!
15:33 cait         drojf:  yay!
15:33 cait         add a note to the bug?
15:33 cait         maybe a keyword sandbox if that works
15:34 drojf        i added a comment
15:35 drojf        Schlüsselwort       namens „sandbox“     ist     nicht bekannt.       Sie können sich die Liste gültiger       Schlüsselwörter anzeigen lassen.
15:35 drojf        only "regression" is allowed as keyword
15:35 cait         ok
15:35 cait         I have an installation
15:35 cait         where getting reseults nealry takes a minute now
15:35 cait         after it used to be quite fast
15:35 cait         someone an idea about that? :(
15:36 ropuch       top/iotop ;>
15:52 drojf        wow. that kohacon 2013 survey is really thrilling
15:52 jcamins      drojf: what are the current standigns?
15:52 jcamins      *standings
15:53 * jcamins    is currently finding that OPAC paging is highly broken.
15:53 jcamins      Okay, it worked in 3.8.2.
15:53 drojf        845	The National Capital Region, USA [Oct or Mar] (A1)
15:53 drojf        860	Erie, Pennsylvania, USA [Summer] (A2)
15:53 drojf        898	Reno, NV, USA [Sept or Oct] (A3)
15:53 drojf        888	Ibadan, Nigeria [Jul, Aug, or Sept] (A4)
15:53 drojf        897	Córdoba, Argentina [Jul, Aug, or Sept] (A5)
15:53 drojf        847	Not completed or Not displayed
15:53 drojf        *flood*
15:54 jcamins      Wow.
15:55 drojf        or i slipped somewhere in the spreadsheat and all that is not true :D
15:55 jcamins      lol
15:56 cait         very close
15:56 cait         drojf: do oyu have an installation on master?
15:56 cait         could oyu test something for me?
15:57 drojf        my git is master. or do you mean something else?
15:59 cait         that is perfect
15:59 cait         go to your opac
15:59 cait         and search someting
15:59 cait         and look at  the first result on any result page
16:00 drojf        ok mom
16:01 drojf        what exactly should i look at?
16:02 cait         does it have a title?
16:02 cait         showing
16:02 cait         and is it the xslt view?
16:02 drojf        it has a title. but i think it's not xslt here, wait
16:05 drojf        is the general xslt option gone?
16:06 drojf        i can only choose a file
16:06 drojf        ah
16:06 drojf        stupid
16:06 jcamins      drojf: default
16:06 drojf        yes
16:06 drojf        thanks
16:06 jcamins      drojf: it's less than obvious.
16:06 jcamins      I had that response too earlier.
16:06 drojf        yes but reading first would have helped ;)
16:07 drojf        cait: so i should turn it on and see? it was off
16:07 cait         yes please
16:08 drojf        oh. plack. better restart
16:10 drojf        cait: they do have titles
16:11 cait         sigh
16:11 cait         ok
16:11 drojf        did you break something then?
16:12 cait         no idea
16:12 cait         I should not be able to brak something in master :(
16:12 cait         I have rerun makefile
16:12 cait         switched to dom indexing
16:12 cait         and doing a total reindex now
16:12 cait         if that does not fix it
16:12 cait         I am out of ideas
16:14 ropuch       cait: try to check top / iotop output
16:14 cait         ropuch: waiting for the inex to finish
16:14 cait         I am not sure what i woul dsee ther
16:14 ropuch       I had one testing server killed by nullmailer + rsyslogd
16:14 cait         when I do a search it looks like the browser died
16:14 cait         and then after waiting a long time I get results
16:15 ropuch       iotop will show disk operations, the problem might be linux-related
16:15 ropuch       Just a guess, though
16:15 cait         thx ropuch :)
16:15 cait         still a linux newb
16:15 drojf        did you check for that one second bug we had a few days ago? ;)
16:15 cait         learning... slowly
16:15 cait         drojf: nope - loking at this smiley I am not sure if you are seroius
16:16 cait         but how would I do that in case you are?
16:16 drojf        if you have not looked i am serious. what was it about? ntp smeothing something. i think you would generally see that you use a lot of cpu. wait
16:17 cait         hm
16:17 cait         everything besides a search using zebra is behaving normally :(
16:17 ropuch       I had a situation, when nullmaler was trying to send things via mail command, which was not installed,nullmailer was trying, syslogd was loggin and all this read/write disk operation slowed whole box to turtle speed
16:18 cait         no
16:18 cait         not my symptoms I fear :(
16:18 cait         I can watch tv, use the staff client... everything I want on this laptop
16:18 cait         only  a search in opac is broken
16:18 drojf        cait: http://www.heise.de/open/meldung/Schaltsekunde-Linux-kann-einfrieren-1629683.html if you rebooted since then it should not be anything like that
16:18 drojf        ok that does not sound like this bug
16:18 cait         no :(
16:18 cait         *sigh*
16:18 cait         oh no
16:18 cait         result list is totally broken now for me :(
16:19 jcamins      Uh-oh.
16:19 jcamins      Do searches in the staff client work?
16:19 drojf        have you cleared your cache? i'm not sure what totally broken means
16:25 cait         still the same
16:25 cait         seems to freeze the browser
16:25 cait         then after a minute or so i get results
16:26 cait         sorry, had to take care of the washing machine
16:26 jcamins      Could it be javascript?
16:26 ropuch       And how's the search in staff client?
16:26 drojf        do you have a second browser?
16:26 drojf        oh
16:26 drojf        do oyu have highlighting on?
16:26 ropuch       jcamins: that's my guess too
16:26 cait         interesting
16:26 wahanui      interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
16:26 drojf        i had an error in the sandbox about that
16:26 cait         it's fast in staff
16:26 cait         but the result list is broken
16:26 cait         http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/Auswahl_002.png
16:27 jcamins      o.O
16:27 jcamins      Hm.
16:27 * cait       reindexes again
16:27 cait         I did -r
16:28 drojf        oh that looks weird :(
16:28 cait         yeah :(
16:28 cait         and in opac i ttakes a 100 years to come up with omething similar
16:28 cait         the logs are clean
16:28 cait         I have noooo idea whatsoever is happening
16:29 cait         hm
16:29 cait         restart memcache maybe?
16:29 * cait       will try that
16:29 cait         only thing I haven't restarted or redone now
16:30 jcamins      That's what happens when your indexing configuration files are missing.
16:31 jcamins      Check zebra_bib_index_mode in koha-conf.xml?
16:31 jcamins      You installed it with DOM, but I'm wondering if koha-conf.xml wasn't rewritten for some reason.
16:33 cait         ok
16:33 cait         checking
16:34 cait         dom
16:34 cait         same for auth
16:34 cait         no grs
16:34 jcamins      Okay.
16:35 jcamins      Good.
16:35 jcamins      But if you had memcached running, that might have had the old koha-conf.xml cached.
16:35 jcamins      Try the search again?
16:36 cait         browser not reacting
16:36 jcamins      Drat.
16:37 jcamins      Clear your browser cache?
16:43 cait         bah
16:43 cait         it's still th same
16:43 cait         I will check the error logs again after this search...
16:44 cait         perhaps at least something in there now
16:46 jcamins      Do other pages in the OPAC load quickly?
16:46 jcamins      Do you have anything in opacuserjs?
16:48 cait         let me check
16:48 cait         hm other pages are fast
16:48 cait         opac-authorities for example
16:49 jcamins      Okay, that's weird.
16:49 cait         nothing in opac-user
16:49 cait         js
16:50 jcamins      Try restarting the server/
16:50 jcamins      *?
16:50 cait         hm apache?
16:50 wahanui      apache is, like, the ram hog
16:50 jcamins      I had in mind the entire system, in case it's the TT files stored in shared memory.
16:50 cait         hm
16:51 jcamins      (it shouldn't be possible for them to get out of sync, but I'm running out of ideas)
16:51 cait         ok
16:51 cait         I will reboot
16:51 cait         interesting
16:51 wahanui      interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
16:52 cait         I have a second installaton on this computer
16:52 cait         and it has the same problem
16:52 cait         or.. mom
16:52 cait         one moment
16:52 jcamins      After rebooting?
16:52 jcamins      Darn.
16:53 cait         I didn't reboot yet
16:53 cait         or I would have been gone
16:53 cait         was cataloging something into the second installation
16:53 cait         rebooting now
16:58 drojf        long reboot…
16:59 cait         back
17:00 jcamins      Welcome back.
17:05 cait         ook
17:05 cait         in my 3.6.x installation it works
17:06 cait         and the other installation is dead now
17:06 cait         localhost
17:06 wahanui      i guess localhost is 0.1
17:06 cait         The requested URL / was not found on this server.
17:07 cait         hmm
17:07 cait         edited the http-conf and corrected a problem there
17:08 cait         now the opac is back but search gives no results
17:08 cait         started zebra server.. not sure why it was gone
17:08 cait         now it freezes again
17:08 cait         ok, I have to go :(
17:08 cait         it's still broken, how frustrating
17:09 cait         jcamins++ ropuch++ drojf++ for helping me
17:09 cait         at least I know now it's something with this installation and probably not a linux problem
17:09 drojf        :(
17:10 jcamins      The collar of my shirt smells like flowers.
17:10 jcamins      Lavender.
17:11 jcamins      Oh! I bet my wife put some of her incense near it when I hung it up to get the wrinkles to fall out.
17:51 drojf        how can i mark at patch obsolete in bugzilla?
17:54 drojf        found it
18:17 rangi        jcamins_away: thanks for the catch with the opac nav, reverted it
18:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #88 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #88: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/88/
19:12 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 5981 - OPAC: Add limits to search history"
19:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5981 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , OPAC: Add limits to search history
19:37 rangi        http://stats.workbuffer.org/scroller.html
19:37 rangi        now with more scrolling
19:40 drojf        but also more google :P
19:42 libsysguy    rangi do you know if there is a pacakge to install koha deps?
19:42 rangi        its just jquery, ill wget that file to my server it makes you feel better, i was just using their bandwidth not mine :)
19:42 rangi        libsysguy: just install koha-common
19:43 libsysguy    was there a repo that i need to add?
19:43 libsysguy    i couldn't find that on the wiki
19:43 rangi        bywater isnt using the packages yet?
19:43 libsysguy    this is for my dev install
19:43 libsysguy    and no
19:43 libsysguy    I don't think so anyway
19:43 rangi        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze
19:43 rangi        doing it the hard way then :(
19:44 rangi        what i do is install the package, set it up do a koha-create
19:44 libsysguy    i think it is an issue with custom code for some libraries
19:44 libsysguy    from back in the day
19:44 rangi        yeah there is a script to build packages too, so you can do that if you have to
19:44 libsysguy    isn't that the one that jcamins worked on?
19:45 rangi        once created my instance, just change the koha-conf.xml and virtual host to point to the git checkout
19:46 rangi        its the one that the packages are built from, debian/build-git-snapshot
19:46 rangi        comes with koha
19:46 libsysguy    ah
19:46 * libsysguy  has apparent'y been fighting uphill for a long time
19:47 rangi        drojf: there you go
19:48 rangi        libsysguy: the win comes in when you have repos set up, you can have pockets for clients
19:49 rangi        push the package to the repo, then apt-get update; upgrade
19:49 libsysguy    I may have to hit up larry about that
19:49 libsysguy    may make his life easier
19:50 rangi        well at the start it wont it will take a chunk of time to set up, thats probably where its stuck at
19:50 rangi        but it scales much better
19:50 libsysguy    speaking of scaling…I have been seeing some stuff about koha and nginx
19:51 libsysguy    jcamins was saying he saw a pretty big performance boost
19:51 rangi        specially with something like puppet so you can out updates across a cluster
19:51 rangi        well you cant run koha just with nginx
19:51 libsysguy    ugh (wishes we had clustering set up)
19:51 rangi        you need either plack, or apache or something behind it still
19:52 libsysguy    and plack still isn't ready for intranet right/
19:52 rangi        not sure, i think some are running it in production, but youd want to pick the client to try it on
19:53 rangi        its way more ready than the faux koha implementation... but comparing ourselves to them ... isnt really even worth doing
19:53 libsysguy    right…not a picky one
19:53 libsysguy    LOL
19:53 libsysguy    yeah i had heard rumors of that too
19:53 libsysguy    its been awhile since i've been on the main board
19:54 libsysguy    so i just get the devel list
19:54 rangi        id try to catch up with dobrica
19:54 libsysguy    which is…interesting
19:54 rangi        he is the main plack person
19:54 libsysguy    gotcha
19:54 rangi        drojf has it running on his raspberry pi, and from all accounts works well
19:55 libsysguy    well that is promising
19:55 rangi        it is really fast
19:56 libsysguy    plack is basically a caching engine right?
19:56 * libsysguy  is not too familiar with it
19:59 rangi        nope
19:59 libsysguy    crap
20:00 rangi        http://plackperl.org/
20:00 rangi        gotta go feed the kids bbiab
20:00 libsysguy    w00t catalyst is at the top of the supported list
20:00 libsysguy    :p
20:09 jcamins      I had nginx in front of Apache.
20:16 drojf        rangi++ # awesome, no google :)
20:16 drojf        and it scrolls my name :)
20:18 drojf        libsysguy: you would want to try plack on a test install first maybe but from what i can see the staff client works quite good with it. but i have to admit i don't do real library work with it
20:20 francharb    good morning/afternoon/night all
20:20 francharb    see ya
20:21 libsysguy    thanks drojf!  I'll test it out on my test box (when I finish setting it up)
20:21 libsysguy    I haven't dont a koha install in so long I've forgotten how :p
20:21 jcamins      It's very easy.
20:22 drojf        apt-get install koha-common, done
20:22 drojf        :)
20:22 libsysguy    i think i borked the install trying to get it to run alongside my catalyst work
20:23 drojf        whoops
20:23 libsysguy    yeah i am reinstalling now
20:23 libsysguy    with koha-common you can still run a git install right?
20:24 ropuch       Yup
20:24 drojf        yes you just have to pint it to git
20:24 drojf        point
20:24 ropuch       I;m installing koha-comman only to get dependendencies ;>
20:24 libsysguy    yeah that is what i was trying to use it for
20:24 libsysguy    and it was missing CHI, DateTime, and Moose
20:25 libsysguy    but like i said, i probably borked the install lol
20:26 ropuch       Date::Pagination & Paginator are the only two modules not available via apt
20:26 libsysguy    are they in sid?
20:26 libsysguy    or just no available at all
20:27 ropuch       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze
20:27 ropuch       You need to add repo and key
20:28 jcamins      Date::Pagination and Paginator? What are those?
20:29 ropuch       Dunno, Makefile.PL from master branch wanted it installed ;>
20:30 jcamins      Huh. Wonder what they're fore.
20:30 libsysguy    paging dates of course :p
20:30 ropuch       Date::Pagination & Paginator are the only two modules not available via apt
20:30 ropuch       Uh
20:30 ropuch       Data::Paginator - Pagination with Moose
20:31 ropuch       ;>
20:31 jcamins      Well, I'll package those for my repo at some point.
20:31 jcamins      Not right now.
20:32 libsysguy    jcamins are you doing something more important?
20:32 jcamins      libsysguy: being suitably dignified for the first reader at a wedding? :P
20:33 libsysguy    i see
20:33 libsysguy    well koha devel sounds more fun to me
20:33 libsysguy    but to each their own :p
20:33 jcamins      lol
20:33 jcamins      Hm, no Time::Progress, either?
20:36 ropuch       Oh?
20:36 * jcamins    just ran koha_perl_deps.pl -m
20:36 ropuch       Oh?
20:36 ropuch       Filename: pool/universe/libt/libtime-progress-perl/libtime-progress-perl_1.7-1_all.deb
20:38 ropuch       I;m running Ubuntu-Server 12.04 + koha squeeze repos
20:38 jcamins      Ah, I'm on Debian.
20:38 jcamins      Oh, no, I just misspelled progress.
20:41 libsysguy    ok so for a package newb…how do i switch it over to git once i've installed all the deps?
20:41 jcamins      Just do a regular git install.
20:41 libsysguy    oh
20:41 libsysguy    well that is easy enough
20:42 jcamins      You install koha-common to make it install all the dependencies, then install Koha via git.
20:42 libsysguy    so the koha-common package doesn't actually do anything more than install the deps?
20:42 * libsysguy  is just curious
20:43 jcamins      It installs all the code and scripts so that you can create as many instances as you want.
20:44 libsysguy    ok that was my next question
20:44 libsysguy    :P
20:44 libsysguy    "do I still get all the package goodness"
20:44 libsysguy    lol
20:44 jcamins      Well, you can't use the scripts if you're doing a git install.
20:45 libsysguy    but i could also run packages
20:45 libsysguy    and it wouldn't complain too much
20:45 jcamins      Right.
20:45 jcamins      Just change the ports one is using.
20:45 jcamins      Or use virtual hosts.
20:45 libsysguy    right
20:45 libsysguy    that is what i am going to try and set up with catalyst
20:45 libsysguy    run them side by side and see who dies first
20:46 libsysguy    if koha ever downloads…i forget how big the codebase is
20:47 jcamins      Hehe.
20:50 jcamins      Well, this is unfortunate.
20:50 libsysguy    ?
20:50 jcamins      The Perl modules that the new solr code depends on apparently don't compile.
20:50 libsysguy    -_-
20:51 libsysguy    *sigh*
20:51 jcamins      I'll try again with pbuilder, just in case that works better.
20:53 ropuch       libtext-unaccent-perl is rquired, but Makefile.PL won't complain about it
20:53 jcamins      ropuch: why not?
20:53 jcamins      Ooh, in a completely clean environment they build!
20:53 jcamins      :D
20:53 ropuch       Dunno, I've passed Makefile.Pl , make && make test with no errors
20:54 ropuch       But web installer complain about it
20:54 ropuch       ;>
20:54 jcamins      Wait.
20:55 jcamins      Maybe not.
20:55 jcamins      There is no package.
20:55 pastebot     "libsysguy" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "deps" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15
20:55 libsysguy    so these are the missing deps I see after installing koha-common
20:55 ropuch       Add libtext-unaccent-perl to the list
20:56 jcamins      Most are packaged.
20:57 ropuch       Yup, Date::Pagin ones are the only ones that are not
20:58 jcamins      And Data::Paginator has beat me.
20:58 jcamins      Meh. It does say it's optional.
21:03 jcamins      Ooh, Graphics Magick is now available from Debian apt repos.
21:17 cait         hi drojf1
21:17 drojf1       hey cait
21:36 drojf1       i wrote something about koha performance on the raspi, including screen recordings with and without plack if anyone is interested http://abunchofthings.net/blog/koha-on-a-raspberry-pi-opac/
21:38 jcamins      drojf++
21:40 mbalmer      n'evening