Time Nick Message
23:48 wajasu ok. thx.
23:47 jcamins DateTime::TimeZone should be libdatetime-timezone-perl.
23:47 jcamins The CHI ones are completely optional, though.
23:47 jcamins wajasu: they're not all available from debian.k-c.org.
23:47 wajasu i need the CHI, CHI:Driver:Memcached, DateTime:TimeZone deb package names. adding -perl didn't help
23:42 mtj ah, yep - i was waaay off :/ trying to hide the 'results_summary' elements
23:40 rangi *nod*
23:40 rangi yeah too many of them
23:40 jcamins We really ought to fix that.
23:40 jcamins You can't use results_summary or label, or the solution would be CSS. :)
23:40 rangi jcamins: that works perfectly!
23:40 jcamins mtj: every single piece of information on the page has the class results_summary.
23:40 mtj all results_summary elements, with a child element of a 'label' class?
23:39 * jcamins thought the question was "which?"
23:39 rangi jquery wars!
23:39 rangi ohh
23:39 jcamins $('.materialtype').parent().hide();
23:39 mtj $(.results_summary .label).hide()
23:36 * wajasu Bug8375 is what I'm working on
23:35 * rangi takes a crack
23:34 rangi ah right ta
23:34 mtj but then add a 'child' selector too :/
23:34 rangi ahh i forgot to mention there are lots of results_summary
23:34 mtj $(. results_summary).hide()
23:33 jcamins jQuery.
23:33 jcamins Ummm...
23:32 rangi my brain is not working
23:32 rangi if i have that html .. how do i hide it with jquery or css ?
23:31 rangi wajasu: yes please
23:31 rangi <span class="results_summary"><span class="label">Type: </span><img src="/opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam/silk/book.png" alt="book" title="book" class="materialtype"/> Book </span>
23:31 wajasu its realted to bug2246, should i add it to the cc list?
23:30 rangi if i have
23:30 rangi hmm so
23:30 wajasu i'll put normal, someone else can change it.
23:29 mtj prolly just 'normal' or 'trivial' ?
23:28 wajasu should it be critical? or major? or blocker.
23:27 wajasu ok will do
23:27 mtj oops, i mean - i try to include the commit hash that my patch was created from
23:22 mtj wajasu: i try to paste the commit hash, with my bug-report
23:21 wajasu ok
23:21 jcamins It'll have the date.
23:21 wajasu yes but when someone read the bug a few months later, how will they know what version/hash i saw the bug?
23:21 jcamins And as for the version in the bug report, you just mark it master.
23:20 jcamins (for development)
23:20 jcamins You should always keep your clone up to date.
23:20 jcamins It doesn't matter.
23:20 rangi hmm?
23:20 wajasu for the bug report
23:20 wajasu is there a goog way to determine the build date for my git clone, or just reference koha-common 3.8.1 or such?
23:01 rangi koha-upgrade-schema rules!
23:01 rangi liw++
22:56 rangi wajasu++
22:56 jcamins Yay!
22:55 rangi mtj++
22:55 * wajasu so i can hava bugXXXX number to branch with
22:55 * wajasu now writing bug.
22:54 wahanui 2266.82692307692
22:54 wajasu 943/.416
22:54 wajasu Books
22:54 wajasu 3886542378
22:54 wajasu 1150Jahre Marköbel, 850 Jahre Baiersröderhof
22:54 wajasu ok grabbed LOC record and exported PDF label and see:
22:46 rangi sweet
22:37 * wajasu now confiming bug
22:36 * wajasu webinstaller finished
22:36 wajasu that worked. i have the k-c in my vm :)
22:34 jcamins It's in the k-c repo, not Debian standard.
22:34 wajasu ok
22:33 rangi libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl ?
22:32 wajasu Hmm. what is the htmltotext deb package called. i got the unaccent one.
22:27 jcamins Also Text::Unaccent.
22:27 jcamins Yes.
22:27 wajasu Template:Plugin:HtmlToText is new
22:26 jcamins wajasu: if you make it support Unicode (like, really), I'm sure I could be persuaded to test it with a non-Latin character set.
22:25 wajasu i'm just going to grab a record from the LOC z3950 server with a diacritic, and document that in the bug, so a fresh install should be sufficient.
22:24 drojf nevermind, it is not his time yet
22:21 rangi ?
22:21 drojf someone
22:21 drojf hm. something's missing
22:20 rangi you can be number 187
22:20 rangi perfect
22:20 wajasu now i have a virgin environment, and can be sure it is like what you see.
22:19 rangi i mean was it a did not apply problem or .. failed qa one?
22:19 rangi is it still there?
22:19 rangi ahh
22:19 wajasu 2nd. the last time i tried, it wasn't taken. but that was over a year ago.
22:17 rangi it will be your first patch eh?
22:17 rangi perfect!
22:16 jcamins Right.
22:16 wajasu i'm getting my koha-dev environment set up, then will confirm bug exists, write bug report, branch bugXXXX, make fix, confirm fix, gen patch, email patch to list, attach patch to bug report, label bug "NEEDS SIGNOFF"
22:11 rangi that is quite rare though
22:11 wajasu ok.
22:11 jcamins In that case you should follow the instructions. :)
22:11 rangi we do that occassionally on a bug report in bugzilla
22:11 jcamins Right.
22:11 rangi 'this patch in master wont apply to 3.8.x, can you please send one for 3.8.x'
22:10 rangi yep, unless it jcamins or I have said something like
22:10 wajasu ok
22:09 jcamins wajasu: master. Always.
22:09 wajasu should i branch off master, or a specific version? for a patch
22:05 Brooke it's not like overvoting can really hurt a preference election, anyway.
22:04 Brooke I'm mostly happy with it. I'd be unhappy if folks indicated that they wanted to vote for summat and couldn't. Most of the complaints I've seen have been we've overvoted, not under.
22:03 sekjal_mobile ok, back to the highway. back on normal schedule tomorrow.
21:58 sekjal_mobile great. all the kefuffle on list had me thinking it was already tallied
21:57 rangi yes until the 17th
21:57 rangi i dont think anyone is happy, i just dont want to shit all over the nigerians who have a few hours of internet a day to appease 1stworldproblems
21:57 sekjal_mobile ah... polls are still open, right?
21:57 * wizzyrea bops about
21:56 * jcamins falls into the final category.
21:56 rangi i think the consensus has been that since some people didnt understand how it worked, they are being allowed to recast their vote
21:56 jcamins sekjal_mobile: some people are unhappy, some people are happy, and some people don't care.
21:55 sekjal_mobile hi, #koha. been away a couple days. what's up with the KohaCon 13 vote?
21:53 rangi http://soundcloud.com/themagician/peter-the-magician-memory
21:38 mustard I wanna be at the booootom of the list
21:33 Brooke wb
21:32 rangi back
21:30 jcamins I should stop reading three things simultaneously. I keep on missing key pieces of information.
21:30 Guest2215 this may not be the last you see of me!
21:30 Brooke you can use 00s for the os
21:29 * jcamins realizes that the last two digits are different. Never mind.
21:29 wahanui no is failing unit tests
21:29 Guest2215 no?
21:29 Guest2215 yes
21:29 jcamins Wait, chris_n wanted the nick Brooke?
21:29 Guest2215 for now. *glare*
21:28 Guest2215 I guess I just have to find myself another name
21:28 Guest2215 and Brooke is legit
21:28 Guest2215 well as I don't have a sabre
21:28 jcamins One per month for the next decade! :D
21:28 jcamins drojf: yes!
21:27 Brooke that does count wizzy
21:27 * drojf begins to wonder whether we have to redo all the kohacons because nobody ever knew how the voting works
21:27 * wizzyrea routinely walks around with light sabers, does that count?/
21:26 * wajasu kohacloning
21:25 Brooke thought Ian did on occasion as well
21:25 jcamins I think.
21:25 jcamins Brooke is the only one of us who generally walks around with a sword.
21:25 Guest2215 no wonder you guys are cool
21:25 Brooke a yep
21:25 Guest2215 ooh, library software
21:23 * ibeardslee readies the bandaids
21:23 * jcamins has been assured that there are in fact two different people in that conversation.
21:22 * wizzyrea munches
21:22 * wizzyrea refills the popcorn
21:21 Guest2215 much less 45!
21:21 Guest2215 I don't even own 15 sabres!
21:21 Brooke 3 bouts of 15 best of 3 wins the nick?
21:20 Brooke We can settle this with sabres if you'd like :)
21:20 Guest2215 you, the villain who registered my name
21:20 Guest2215 and now I have found you.
21:20 jcamins Brooke != Guest2215?
21:20 Guest2215 and I got back and someone else had it :(
21:19 Guest2215 I ask because my nick registration on this server appeared to expire, when I went mia for a couple years
21:19 Brooke for like months now
21:19 Brooke yep
21:19 Guest2215 is Brooke registered with nickserv?
21:19 * jcamins is pretty sure that Brooke is Brooke.
21:18 Guest2215 I would rather be Guest2215
21:18 Guest2215 I despise _
21:18 Brooke have you considered an _
21:18 * jcamins wonders if Brooke is having a conversation with herself.
21:18 Guest2215 no really
21:18 Brooke ha ha :P
21:18 Guest2215 you have stolen my name.
21:18 Guest2215 Brooke
21:14 mtj wajasu: i'm quite curious to see how you did it
21:12 wajasu i mean slasher
21:11 mtj oooh, i love romances!
21:11 wajasu its a romance
21:11 mtj gotcha, very impressive!
21:11 * wizzyrea gets the popcorn
21:11 wajasu prove it.
21:11 wajasu i have had a fix for over a year. i just need to probe it.
21:11 mtj i think its almost impossiible, currently :/
21:10 jcamins Very, very tricky.
21:10 mtj hmm, it's a very tricky unicode to pdf translation problem
21:09 jcamins wajasu: there's already a bug report for the diacritics in labels.
21:08 * wajasu whilst simultaneously heads off to write a bug
21:07 * wajasu kicks off building my virgin VM dev environment
21:03 * jcamins hands wajasu the elephant gun.
21:03 wajasu i'm going to try to do a patch today. my people want to see diacritics in the label printer for pdf output.
21:02 francharb_afk see ya
21:01 wahanui hello, wajasu
21:01 wajasu hi
20:40 jcamins Greetings.
20:39 Brooke :)
20:39 drojf hi Brooke
20:38 Brooke o/
20:17 rangi bbl
20:16 * rangi decides to go into work for a bit today, while the kids go to their grandparents, to catch up on some work
20:13 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on July 06, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
20:12 rangi @wunder nzwn
20:12 mustard It's been over 100°F for the past week here (I'm only 40km away from wizzyrea)
20:11 francharb_afk 0_0
20:11 francharb_afk really?
20:11 francharb_afk 38.3°C?
20:11 mustard I usually have a couple of bottles in the refrigerator, but it looks like I'm out. May have to run down to the store on my break.
20:11 nengard :(
20:11 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Highland Park, Levittown, Pennsylvania is 38.3°C (4:09 PM EDT on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM EDT Saturday...
20:11 nengard @wunder 19030
20:08 francharb_afk \0/
20:08 mustard This French item will make everyone feel cooler. http://www.perrier.com/thedrop/en.html
20:08 francharb_afk ;)
20:08 francharb_afk it's pure genius
20:08 francharb_afk "'m Flying out to Pisa, just to get some pizza"
20:08 * francharb_afk is listenning to rihanna
20:06 francharb_afk :)
20:06 francharb_afk ahah
20:06 wizzyrea oh I meant in st joseph :) it's about 1.5 hours drive away from here
20:05 francharb_afk ;)
20:05 francharb_afk when they say humidity 73%, they mean that it's raining almost all the time
20:05 wizzyrea spring*
20:05 wizzyrea yea I suspect we are going to have an early fall, we had a super early sprint
20:04 wizzyrea hm, you have more humidity than us - it probably actually feels hotter there
20:04 francharb_afk already the autumn in july...
20:04 wizzyrea very nice in france :)
20:04 mustard well, only slightly relatively :)
20:04 huginn francharb_afk: The current temperature in Lyon, France is 20.0°C (9:30 PM CEST on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
20:03 francharb_afk @wunder lyon, france
20:03 wizzyrea nicer where you are
20:03 huginn mustard: The current temperature in APRSWXNET St.Joseph MO US, Saint Joseph, Missouri is 35.6°C (2:34 PM CDT on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Saturday...
20:03 mustard @wunder 64506
20:03 wizzyrea first time in 3 weeks we've had even the slightest chance of rain in the forecast
20:03 wizzyrea maybe saturday/sunday
20:03 cait you can have a thunderstorm then
20:03 wizzyrea bit out of season for those, especially this year
20:03 francharb_afk :)
20:03 cait ohok
20:03 wizzyrea those are *tornadoes*
20:03 cait c
20:03 cait it#s a classi
20:02 cait hey!
20:02 * wizzyrea giggles
20:02 drojf lol
20:02 francharb_afk ;)
20:02 francharb_afk and I'm the one who needs a break?
20:01 cait and children get lost on yellow brick roads
20:01 cait drojf: in the end another poor witch ends up under a house!
20:01 cait drojf: not sur eit's a good idea in kansas
20:00 drojf you should definitely have some thunderstorm
19:58 * wizzyrea sighs
19:58 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 38.1°C (2:57 PM CDT on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Friday...
19:58 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks
19:58 * wizzyrea wants an impressively thundery thunderstorm
19:56 rangi not really, sounded like a train tho
19:56 mustard rangi: did the earthquake a couple of days ago rattle your windows?
19:55 rangi the barbeque one is my fave
19:52 drojf :)
19:52 * cait is jealous
19:52 cait mine is already over
19:52 cait oooh
19:52 drojf wow, impressively thundery, my thunderstorm
19:51 cait exactly!
19:51 cait lol
19:51 drojf kiwi kids, wheat somethingsomething. must. eat. weird. cereal.
19:51 drojf haha me too
19:51 cait now I got that in my head
19:49 cait kiwi kids...
19:49 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_NXDv567Ac&feature=related <-- these are better
19:49 francharb_afk :)
19:48 rangi we were cheesy as hell
19:48 rangi nz 1990's
19:48 francharb_afk ;)
19:48 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyxJaeoY0-k
19:48 francharb_afk but not to much
19:48 francharb_afk yeah, rangi, fruits and some wheatabix crumbs to make them crunchy
19:47 rangi kahu loves them
19:47 rangi here they are called weetbix
19:47 francharb_afk jcamins, LOL
19:47 rangi you just cant eat them plain
19:46 rangi but good with fruit
19:46 jcamins Nope.
19:46 jcamins Shari thought they must be better once you get older.
19:46 francharb_afk ahah
19:46 jcamins I tried wheetabix recently.
19:46 rangi they still are
19:46 cait true
19:46 francharb_afk I should try again
19:46 cait francharb_afk: heh
19:46 francharb_afk :)
19:46 francharb_afk when I was youngerand I tested wheatabix, they were the most boring cereals I ever had...
19:46 cait weeee :)
19:46 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.2°C (9:40 PM CEST on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
19:46 drojf weeeee
19:46 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:46 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 22.5°C (9:42 PM CEST on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
19:46 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
19:45 wizzyrea http://www.foodandfunfromhome.com/images/P/146-846-B.gif
19:44 cait yeah?
19:44 francharb_afk cait, really?
19:44 cait does that count?
19:44 * cait likes wheatabix
19:44 francharb_afk chex?
19:44 * wizzyrea loves wheat chex.
19:44 wizzyrea ! like Chex!
19:43 francharb_afk ;)
19:43 cait rangi: he is missing us, can you blame him?
19:43 francharb_afk rangi, looks like it
19:43 rangi :)
19:43 cait drojf: eeew
19:43 rangi francharb_afk is addicted to #koha !
19:43 drojf or use google translate
19:43 drojf only funny for those that speak german
19:43 francharb_afk http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/post_shreddies.jpg
19:43 drojf Shreddies Damen Brief €29.90. Bequeme, modische Unterwäsche, die dazu noch mit einem integrierten Aktivkohlefilter unangenehme Gerüche beseitigt - ideal für Menschen mit Magen- und Darmerkrankungen und chronischer Flatulenz.
19:43 jcamins Never heard of it.
19:43 rangi some american cereal
19:43 cait what are shreddies?
19:43 rangi wow i cant type this morning
19:42 wizzyrea :D
19:42 wahanui i heard Gnocchi was http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/sweet-potato-gnocchi/Detail.aspx
19:42 jcamins Gnocchi?
19:42 cait rangi: :P
19:42 rangi shreddies
19:42 cait haka cereal?
19:42 rangi hehe no cait at all the fudge
19:42 jcamins Peanut butter?
19:41 drojf hahahaha
19:41 wahanui rumour has it fudge is the ambrosia of koha
19:41 wizzyrea fudge?
19:41 wizzyrea :D
19:41 drojf lol
19:41 wizzyrea ummmmmmm fennel?
19:40 cait hope it's not caraway
19:40 rangi jcamins and wizzyrea: wanna guess what laurel found in the shop and atarau is eating?
19:35 rangi "we're number 2 we're number 2"
19:35 rangi ahhh
19:35 rangi w
19:35 rangi nope, you arent misinterpreting :)
19:30 drojf lol
19:30 cait go and take your break!
19:30 cait lol
19:29 francharb_afk ;)
19:29 francharb_afk "we wont vote for number 1"
19:29 francharb_afk "we dont want any leader!"
19:28 drojf or i'm misinterpreting the statistics
19:28 drojf i like how 3% did not vote for rank 1 in the survey
19:27 francharb see ya
19:27 francharb ;)
19:27 francharb will you be able to replace it?
19:27 francharb I forgot "of" somewhere
19:26 francharb I'm reading me and all I can think is that I need a break
19:25 francharb once I updated my ubuntu, I will go back to gnome
19:25 rangi brb
19:25 cait you should feed him :)
19:25 rangi atarau too
19:25 cait in my koha vm
19:25 rangi "I am hungry" says ataraua
19:25 cait I am trying out debian at work now
19:25 cait hm maybe
19:25 cait ah
19:25 francharb cait, the way the scrolling bar is diplayed
19:25 rangi i removed unity (well never installed it to be fair)
19:25 drojf my pidgin scrolls nicely
19:24 jcamins cait: yup, probably.
19:24 jcamins It was not fvwm.
19:24 jcamins I've forgotten which one.
19:24 cait not sure unitiy is to blame for problems in pidgin?
19:24 jcamins I found a WM that I was pretty happy with.
19:24 francharb I removed it
19:24 francharb cait, unity scrolling is bad
19:24 drojf :D
19:24 * jcamins runs around shouting "I'm helping!!!"
19:24 rangi drojf++ # the mail to the list was great though
19:24 jcamins drojf++ # for helping
19:23 rangi 07:21 < drojf> rangi: you could give your address to rakesh
19:23 drojf you wanted to be grumpy
19:23 drojf lol
19:23 cait what did I miss?
19:23 cait huh?
19:23 rangi drojf-- # that idea is horrible!!!!
19:23 cait very annoying
19:23 cait my window stopped scrolling down automatically
19:23 francharb cait, your scrolling?
19:23 drojf how does scrolling break?
19:23 francharb her scrolling?
19:23 jcamins Hehe.
19:23 cait brb
19:22 wahanui i already had it that way, cait.
19:22 cait francharb: my scrolling is broken again
19:22 drojf rangi: you could give your address to rakesh
19:22 cait I did
19:22 cait hehe
19:22 francharb ;)
19:22 francharb If you look at it fast, it will get animated
19:22 cait francharb: smile :)
19:22 rangi what other emails can i be grumpy at I wonder
19:22 francharb :D
19:22 francharb :)
19:22 francharb :|
19:22 rangi (that was an ironic cya :) im not actually leaving)
19:21 francharb 0/
19:21 rangi cya
19:20 jcamins She was waiting on the fiscal year, I think.
19:18 libsysguy i haven't heard anything out of it
19:18 rangi lenora .. iirc
19:18 rangi wasnt someone organising a US user group thingy this year? or did that fall through?
19:17 libsysguy Texas
19:17 libsysguy I want to go to hackfest actually
19:17 francharb libsysguy, where are you from?
19:17 * libsysguy just wants to go for once
19:16 cait rangi++
19:15 francharb rangi++
19:15 francharb :)
19:15 francharb madonna just poped up in my mind
19:15 rangi wherever it is, it will be great
19:15 francharb weird
19:14 francharb :)
19:14 rangi and i didnt even vote for them :)
19:14 rangi on no = oh no
19:14 rangi to me, it would look like on no, argentian is winning, we better change the vote
19:13 jcamins :)
19:13 francharb :)
19:13 francharb jcamins++
19:13 * jcamins doesn't care.
19:13 francharb anyway, if not, just forget it ;)
19:13 rangi i just think restarting now, makes more mess
19:13 francharb :)
19:12 rangi yep
19:12 francharb :)
19:12 francharb did I make myself clear?
19:11 francharb "randomly" in the way, that people didn't know how the voting worked...
19:10 francharb so I would say, let's ask the hosts how they feel about it
19:10 francharb "hey guys, you've been picked randomly"
19:09 francharb but only
19:09 francharb "hey, everyboday want to go"
19:09 rangi i agree
19:09 rangi ahh yes
19:09 francharb because we cant say
19:09 francharb and i would feel more bad for the host
19:09 rangi :)
19:09 francharb but nengard seems to feel bad about the voters. but i just wanted to say that it's not a big deal
19:09 rangi that bit is confusing me
19:09 rangi random vote?
19:09 cait am I the only one?
19:09 cait I am still confused :)
19:08 cait ok
19:08 francharb nope
19:08 francharb ahah
19:08 jcamins I thought you meant there was a problem with the server the survey was on.
19:08 francharb jcamins, yes
19:08 * jcamins got confused.
19:08 jcamins Never mind.
19:08 francharb but in the end "well, you have been picked randomly"
19:08 jcamins Wait, host as in "institution where KohaCon2013 might be held"?
19:07 francharb it's more like saying 'good for you, everybody want to go'
19:07 jcamins I'm still able to access it.
19:07 rangi but i think thats what the 3 months or so before the voting are for
19:07 rangi i dont think there is any, but just an example
19:07 francharb jcamins, it's not a "problem"
19:07 cait hey eythian
19:07 jcamins What's the problem with the host?
19:06 rangi issues with the hosts, should come up before the voting starts
19:06 rangi but we also cant change that now
19:06 francharb in the end, it's like a random vote
19:05 rangi what he said
19:05 francharb s/if i way/if i may
19:05 francharb If I way, we should'nt pay so much attention to the voters but more on the hosts..
19:05 rangi 295 now
19:03 wizzyrea well there are some places that are highly unlikely that I'd get to go to
19:02 cait wizzyrea: same for me, but I am keeping my vote
19:02 wizzyrea (and I did it last year too!)
19:02 * wizzyrea did it wrong
19:02 jcamins If they didn't put their real name on it, it was kind of fraud anyway.
19:02 wizzyrea like, I might go for that
19:02 jcamins That makes sense to me.
19:01 wizzyrea or you can nuke their existing vote (if they put their name on it) and give that person a do-over
19:01 wizzyrea or don't restart it
19:01 wizzyrea i say don't change it - if someone complains you can nuke their vote and put in a new one on their behalf
19:00 nengard hehe
19:00 nengard me too :)
19:00 * cait is confused now
19:00 rangi sorry if that makes people not want to change it
19:00 wahanui That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) or a librarian, you will get wahanui's information or a hero or signing off on wahanui's patch :)
19:00 cait me?
19:00 jcamins cait: "you"?
18:59 cait ?
18:59 rangi if that makes me not want to change it
18:59 cait I think it fairer to keep it the way it is
18:59 rangi fwiw reno is winning now
18:59 cait I think people from the channel were early voters
18:59 cait I think we all could have noted that earlier
18:59 nengard so if I have to do something to make people feel it's fair I'll do it
18:58 nengard and only those who were involved in other years realized
18:58 nengard I feel bad cause I didn't explain
18:58 nengard i guess if someone feels strongly I can edit their vote on the db level ? not that I want to really open that can of worms
18:56 drojf not after i actually calculated all the 5x, 4x, 3x etc
18:56 rangi 293 votes .. i dont think we can throw them all away now
18:56 drojf stop caraway hate!
18:55 cait which I told jcamins in the other window
18:55 cait rangi: I hate them too hehe
18:55 jcamins The international "I hate caraway" community?
18:55 jcamins What is this?
18:52 rangi wrong i tells ya
18:52 rangi caraway seeds are wrong
18:46 cait :)
18:45 jcamins Yup.
18:45 cait heh, wrong window? :)
18:44 jcamins (caraway seeds are very weird in a salad, that is)
18:43 jcamins And it's still boring.
18:43 jcamins Very weird in a salad.
18:43 cait no, you are not :)
18:42 rangi im glad im not the only, "wait ... what?" to the restart idea
18:41 rangi cait++
18:14 nengard so i found the commit
18:14 nengard yeah it's not there
18:11 drojf we don't have that in our 3.8
18:10 drojf i'll look
18:10 cait nengard: not sure, maybe check bugzilla?
18:07 nengard nope ? hmm
18:07 nengard is 'IssueLostItem' a preference in 3.8?
18:07 nengard it might not be the entire 3.10 manual
18:07 nengard found it
18:06 nengard okay ? so ? at some point i pushed the 3.10 manual to the 3.8 branch ? can anyone tell me how to find out where i screwed up?
18:00 jcamins mustard: I think I've seen ads for Evergreen folks on the Koha list before.
18:00 wahanui somebody said missouri was forming a consortium.
18:00 jcamins Missouri.
18:00 jcamins The home state of Shoeless Joe!
18:00 cait MO?
17:56 mustard There are two Evergreen positions open in MO. Suppose I'd get spanked if I sent a link to the Koha list?
17:40 nengard okey dokey
17:40 jcamins nengard: in all seriousness about the search problem, it's a small symptom of a really big problem which can't really be solved with anything less than a rewrite.
17:32 nengard email sent to the list- please reply with your opinions
17:31 cait reno!
17:31 SJeffery I have now voted, hopefully Reno wins!
17:30 jcamins That makes sense.
17:30 cait so with the new note we shoud let it run I guess
17:29 cait including me
17:29 cait and anyone could have asked
17:29 cait I think restarting now might cause more trouble
17:29 jcamins Oh, I knew it was by points, I just didn't think about whether I should be voting for places I couldn't possibly go or not.
17:28 jcamins I'm not sure. Maybe sound out an e-mail asking?
17:28 nengard but the points is how we did it other years
17:28 nengard i'll leave it to the community to decide
17:28 nengard jcamins that's why i'm wondering if i should redo the survey ?. cause i wasn't clear - totally my fault
17:28 cait very cool!
17:27 cait ah :)
17:27 jcamins cait: someone asked about searching, I explained that there was a big problem, which I'd love to tackle, but it was too big for a hobby-type project.
17:27 jcamins SJeffery: I ranked them at the bottom. I guess I should've left it blank, maybe. I don't know.
17:26 nengard SJeffery, I didn't explain it well this year and that's my fault - if you can't attend a place you shouldn't vote for it at all .. if we need to start the voting again now that that's clear I can do that ?..
17:25 cait hehe
17:25 wahanui which mail are we talking about?
17:25 cait jcamins: which mail?
17:25 cait SJeffery: I think that would make sense
17:25 nengard survey description updated
17:24 jcamins After my e-mail, some people popped up and said "oh, yeah, we care, we didn't realize it could be fixed."
17:24 SJeffery Are you supposed to not rank locatios that you absolutely would not be able to attend, or rank them anyway?
17:24 cait I think we have to come up with some changes for the solr/zebra integration?
17:24 jcamins Sort of a question of whether enough librarians _really_ care about it.
17:24 cait after dinner
17:24 cait which reminds me I have some testing to do :)
17:24 * cait loves jcamins' projects
17:24 jcamins I was talking with a few people about possibly taking on that project.
17:23 jcamins Yeah, that's what it comes down to.
17:23 jcamins ^^
17:23 cait rewrite Search.pm?
17:23 nengard jcamins - try and teach all patrons that ? now give me a better answer
17:23 cait could that be?
17:23 cait and not not finding something because you tell it to not search for the word after not
17:23 jcamins nengard: I think you probably know the solution to this: "don't use the word 'not' in searches."
17:23 cait I think not is maybe removed from your search
17:22 nengard Error: Can't call method "sort" on an undefined value at /home/nengard/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 404.
17:22 cait t
17:22 drojf it's no change to the mechanism, just more clarification. i don't see why that should not be added now
17:22 cait sounds like koha is trying to be smar
17:22 jcamins cait: well, that's the way it was announced it was going to work.
17:22 nengard now i thought zebra didn't use boolean phrases
17:22 cait uhoh
17:22 nengard if it's a title with 'not' in it i don't find the title
17:22 nengard if it's just 'not' i get an error
17:22 nengard when I search for the word 'not' or a title with the word 'not' in it i have problems
17:22 cait what do the others think?
17:22 cait undecided really
17:22 nengard I'll go add it - now a search question ?
17:22 cait but not sur eit's fair in the middle
17:22 nengard no prob
17:22 cait nengard: I think it might be good
17:21 jcamins It was in an e-mail I think.
17:21 nengard I can update the survey description if you want
17:21 cait we should put it into the survey somewhere next time maybe
17:21 nengard and I should
17:21 nengard it was explained in 2011 ? not sure I put that on the 2013 one
17:21 wahanui hmmm... on the wiki is more information about the packages
17:21 cait on the wiki
17:21 drojf explained even
17:21 cait yeah, which is why I voted wrong - should have left some empty
17:21 drojf ah ok. is that eplained somewhere?
17:21 nengard remember each place gets points based on it's ranking - so if it's voted #1 it gets 5 points, #2 4 points, and so on .. so even if it's not all #1 it could still be picked based on score
17:20 nengard drojf I'm not looking at anything right now, but I do have that availability
17:19 drojf nengard: are you actually looking at all the names/ email addresses/ organisations of the voters?
17:19 jcamins Actually it's probably more fair this way.
17:18 drojf yes all us no.1 votes together would be first position now
17:18 jcamins *only 1/3
17:17 jcamins So 1/3 of the votes go to any venue.
17:17 jcamins And there are three venues.
17:17 jcamins That too.
17:17 jcamins cait: apathy.
17:17 drojf probably the holiday
17:17 cait can't understand not more voting for US
17:15 drojf aaaand nigeria takes the lead
17:01 Rakesh ok thanks
17:01 jcamins You should read through the manual so you understand how to use MySQL.
17:00 Rakesh what should i open in this
16:58 Rakesh but tel
16:58 jcamins http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/
16:58 Rakesh cant bilieve
16:58 jcamins Really.
16:58 Rakesh can u tell me which files should i check
16:57 Rakesh really?
16:57 jcamins No one is paid to answer questions on this channel, so if you need more attention than we can afford to give for free, you need to find someone you can pay to answer questions.
16:57 jcamins You have to set up a MySQL user properly.
16:56 jcamins kf did tell you.
16:56 Rakesh pls tell how to repair the access denied error'
16:56 Rakesh :)
16:56 Rakesh no
16:56 jcamins Rakesh: you may want to consider hiring someone to assist you in the setup.
16:55 wahanui Koha Support Providers can be found at http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/
16:55 jcamins vendors?
16:55 Rakesh plz help
16:55 Rakesh but now it also says that access denied too
16:55 Rakesh earlier i was able to access the root account
16:55 Rakesh when i try to run the web installer it says acces denied using password yes
16:54 Rakesh and i installed it on multiple instances
16:54 Rakesh and it worked
16:54 Rakesh i installed koha
16:54 Rakesh i have got a problem'
16:54 Rakesh hello guys
16:37 mib_nogxa0 Is it Serial Claim notice is generating in koha
16:35 jcamins cait: oh, yes, 3.4.
16:34 cait jcamins: was not sure about the version with the script in the release notes :)
16:34 cait we will know our way around better too - and it will easier to help you :)
16:34 cait if you are there
16:33 YeahKoha Thank you for your help. Really appreciated this is driving me nuts. I hope we can figure it out.
16:31 YeahKoha will do. Thanks!
16:30 YeahKoha see if that fixes the issues with the DB
16:30 jcamins It will automatically update, except for the remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl script, which you will have to run manually, once.
16:30 YeahKoha I see.
16:30 jcamins YeahKoha: you already got to 3.2.5, so now you just install 3.6.6 over it.
16:30 YeahKoha or recommended distro?
16:30 jcamins cait: remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl
16:28 YeahKoha Do you have a recommended install guide for 2.2 to 3.6?
16:28 cait and the script is noted in the release notes - jcamins 3.4?
16:28 cait all other things the web installer will handle for you
16:28 cait there will be one script you have to run
16:28 cait YeahKoha: it's less complicated
16:27 YeahKoha What is involved in the database update for 3.6? Do we have to update our database at several levels or is there just the 2.2 to 3?
16:26 jcamins No one here has used 3.2.5 in quite a while.
16:25 jcamins You should think about upgrading the rest of the way, to 3.6.6 or 3.8.2 (I prefer 3.6.6).
16:25 YeahKoha We used the 2.2 to 3.0 update scripts after importing the database to a test server. We still have our original intact.
16:23 cait or did you export/import your data?
16:23 cait did you use the conversion scripts?
16:23 cait a
16:23 cait it might be something in the dat
16:23 cait and fix your problems there
16:23 cait YeahKoha: I would strongly recommend updating to a more current version
16:22 YeahKoha We did that for each branch and a default rule too.
16:22 jcamins The current versions are 3.6.6 and 3.8.2.
16:21 jcamins YeahKoha: you know that 3.02.05 is incredibly old, right?
16:21 jcamins YeahKoha: most likely you need to configure your circulation rules.
16:21 YeahKoha None of the patrons are disbarred or lost card or validate address.
16:20 YeahKoha Question: We just upgraded to 3.02.05 from 2.2.9 the upgrade went reletively smoothly. However we cannot checkout any books to any patrons. Every patron comes up with "Cannot Check Out!" There is no red warning below the error. This happens on every Patron, even the Admin account. Any insights into what we missed?
16:15 tajoli Bye
16:15 tajoli I try to use both then I report
16:14 drojf as i understand it, you should use both, but i am not sure how to test since the followup patch changes days to day just everywhere it occurs as far as i understand.
16:13 tajoli hi
16:12 drojf hi tajoli
16:02 tajoli Do I need to use them together ?
16:02 tajoli I want to test it but there are two patches
16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin
16:01 wizzyrea bug 8251
15:44 gaetan_B bye !
15:43 tajoli Hi, anyone working on bug  8251 (Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin) ?
15:35 Rakesh any1 else who can help
15:30 Rakesh but still
15:29 Rakesh i did it
15:29 kf sorry, I have to go back to work now
15:29 kf without the \ - that's from copying it out of the mailing list mail
15:28 kf '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>';
15:28 kf to'<kohadatabaseuser>'@'localhost' identified by\
15:28 kf before installing Koha you should have done something like this when creating the database :mysql> grant all on <kohadatabasename>.*mysql>\
15:28 kf see the link I send you
15:28 kf I think you have to repeat the step where you give the koha mysql user permissions to use the database
15:28 Rakesh and i have a koha alredy running
15:28 Rakesh see i have a root
15:27 Rakesh so how should i solve it?
15:27 kf if it doesn't work in mysql, it can't work in koha
15:27 kf thre is your problem then
15:27 Rakesh then it says access denied
15:27 kf -p and then let it ask
15:27 kf that's the better way to do it anyway
15:27 Rakesh i give
15:27 kf yes
15:27 Rakesh it asks password
15:26 Rakesh i entered mysql -u koha1 -p
15:26 Rakesh in mysql command line
15:26 Rakesh but koha1 gives error
15:26 Rakesh koha works
15:26 Rakesh root works with pass
15:26 Rakesh see i have three users
15:24 kf mysql -u<youruser> -p<yourpassword> <yourdatabasename>
15:24 kf can you access the databaseon command line with the user and password you have in the koha configuration file?
15:24 Rakesh but it gives error access denied
15:23 Rakesh it says using the password yes
15:23 Rakesh now plz help
15:23 Rakesh but it seems everything is right
15:22 Rakesh i checked everywhere for the passwodd if it is incorrect'
15:21 francharb ok kf
15:20 Rakesh see
15:18 kf I will let you know once I figured out the recording
15:17 kf francharb: ok :)
15:16 francharb ;)
15:16 francharb when I will come up with a testing plan
15:16 francharb be sure that I will let you know
15:16 francharb hopefully, I will have more time in 2 weeks and during august
15:15 kf our world :)
15:15 francharb ;)
15:15 francharb welcome to my world
15:14 kf it's CRAZY.
15:14 kf same here
15:14 kf wnted to record some test cases
15:14 kf but there was a problem with the session cookie - so I didn't get it working :(
15:14 francharb but lately, I had a LOT of work to do
15:14 kf I spent a day on http:recorder
15:14 kf yeah me too
15:14 francharb I just need to find time to focus on that
15:14 francharb I agree kf
15:13 kf I still think it's probably too big for one person - we have to find a way to do that as a groups
15:13 francharb :(
15:13 kf and with the new bugs paul filed today... lots of testing will be needed in circ
15:13 francharb I know ! :(
15:13 kf we didn't figure out a testing plan at the hackfest :(
15:13 kf francharb: would be cool to look at some of the devs together some tiem
15:12 kf :)
15:12 francharb :)
15:12 francharb I need to see the new stuffs
15:12 francharb I go back on the acquisition module. I give a training next week
15:12 * kf nods
15:11 francharb :)
15:11 francharb and see the related funds
15:11 kf but it's not so practical
15:11 kf I think the change was meant well
15:11 francharb you choose your budget first
15:11 kf yep - I agree :)
15:11 francharb ;)
15:11 francharb that's why, budgets & funds was better
15:11 francharb thats right
15:11 kf but where would we get this?
15:11 kf I think funds would only make sense with a budget parameter
15:10 kf yes
15:10 francharb I will ask Stephane more about this and see what to do to go back to the "budgets & funds" link which was more logical
15:09 kf francharb: perhaps just revert the change?
15:09 wahanui kf: that doesn't look right
15:09 kf and change it back to a link to show the budgets page, becasue you can navigate to the funds from there
15:08 kf I woudl kill the funds link
15:08 kf but I think it's mostly just a misunderstanding
15:08 kf I think a budets and funds link was ok
15:08 kf it doesn't
15:08 kf yes
15:08 kf hmmm
15:07 francharb It doesn't make sense
15:07 francharb I will ask Stephane tomorrow where this come from
15:07 kf let me check
15:07 francharb but I dont get it at all
15:07 huginn 04Bug 8040: minor, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , a menu misnamed in budgets
15:07 francharb http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8040
15:07 francharb no kf
15:07 wahanui kf: I forgot bug
15:07 kf forget bug
15:06 kf francharb: I think it's maybe because the meaning funds / budget got reversed
15:06 kf wrong configuration
15:05 kf yes
15:05 Rakesh this is the error
15:05 kf Rakesh: maybe this will help you: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Koha-web-installer-shows-software-error-td4497883.html
15:05 Rakesh Access denied for user 'koha1'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/Context.pm line 758. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 31. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 31. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/instance1/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl
15:05 francharb :(
15:05 francharb but having "funds" as a link is a bad idea. It goes on one fund with no logic..
15:04 francharb kf, I will investigate more
15:04 kf perhaps bad merge?
15:04 francharb but yeah kf, it's not a good idea
15:04 reiveune bye
15:04 wahanui the bug is probably that if you scan the barcode on the circ page you aren't allowed to renew it that way
15:04 kf francharb: the bug?
15:04 francharb :(
15:04 francharb kf, I just asked at biblibre and apparently, it comes from us
15:03 kf Rakesh: the login information in your koha-conf.xml file should match your configuration for myswl
15:03 kf Rakesh: you probably gave it the wrong mysql password
15:03 kf francharb: sorry, no test installation in reach right now - haven't noticed yet but sounds like a bug?
15:03 francharb is it a fresh install?
15:02 francharb Rakesh, could you tell us more?
15:02 Rakesh it says access denied for the user using password (yes)
15:01 Rakesh while opening the koha web installer
15:01 Rakesh please solve my mysql problem
15:00 Rakesh hi guys
15:00 francharb there were two links (budgets and funds), then, just one (budget & funds) and now, there are two links...
15:00 francharb kf, have you noticed that?
14:59 francharb :(
14:59 francharb ...
14:59 francharb to go on the fund page, you need to select a budget first
14:58 francharb and it's bad...
14:58 francharb but it came back as 2 links
14:58 francharb There was only one link recently...
14:57 francharb could someone explain me why there are 2 links 'budgets" and 'funds' on the aquisition home page?
14:57 francharb hi all
14:13 kf good idea
14:12 nengard for now
14:12 nengard kf linked them all together with the see also
14:12 kf I have to say I don't undertand my bug report totally right now :(
14:12 kf maybe all those things are connected to each other
14:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8258 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Branch specific DUEDGST notice is not used
14:11 kf I meant bug 8258
14:11 kf oh sorry
14:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3383 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Item due reminder digests - cannot display title information
14:11 kf also: bug 3383
14:11 kf ah
14:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8259 major, P2, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library for notices not saving correctly
14:10 kf bug 8259
14:10 nengard for notices
14:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7997 major, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , can create a notice with the same code
14:09 nengard bug 7997
14:09 nengard Okay - notices there is a bug ? lists I thought there was, but there isn't
14:09 nengard but 7997
14:09 kf I think there is a bug or even 2
14:09 kf notices
14:09 kf ok, let's sort this out - I am getting confused
14:09 kf lol
14:09 nengard I'm just checking so I can update the manual accordingly
14:09 nengard I think I did the bug on that you commented
14:08 kf I think I filed a bug for that
14:08 kf nengard: it shoudl do that - but at the moment you can't create the notice like that :(
14:08 nengard I thought I remembered that bug but can't find the report
14:08 kf nengard: about the lists - did you mean it's already reported somewhere?
14:08 nengard so it looks at the branch and the code combo?
14:07 kf nengard: afaik!
14:07 kf nengard: they have to have their codes
14:03 nengard hmmm ? can't find the bug
14:02 nengard the lists thing ? finding it
14:02 nengard kf ? yes i think that is a bug
14:01 nengard do i remember (i think kf said it) that for notices the predue and advanced notice have to have the codes they have to work? or can we use any code we want?
13:59 kf [off] https://mfo.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-shelves.pl?viewshelf=8&sortfield=title < example
13:58 kf question: is it a bug that the print view of lists only print the first page?
13:45 kf I think I found the problem, never mind!
13:45 kf oh
13:45 kf can someone test something for me on current master?
13:45 kf hmm
13:38 kf paul_p++ # splitting circ improvements up into smaller pieces
13:36 kf hi wizzyrea :)
13:34 * wizzyrea yawns
13:34 * wizzyrea waves
13:29 marcelr bye
13:29 marcelr i claimed them now..
13:29 jcamins marcelr++
13:29 marcelr jcamins: have to go, but will look at both patches soon
13:28 eythian presumably you should retrain it, can you tell it to go into "learn" mode?
13:28 marcelr but nevertheless i am using it
13:28 eythian (although SElinux possibly goes further, as it also fits in user-based restrictions)
13:28 eythian I think apparmor on ubuntu does a similar thing
13:27 eythian yeah, it makes it feasible to restrict what something can access to only things it has a reason to access
13:27 marcelr just an additional security layer to make your life easier or miserable .. just depends
13:27 jcamins I know it has something to do with security.
13:27 jcamins I guess I probably ought to.
13:27 jcamins eythian: that may be. I don't use selinux.
13:27 eythian sure, that's an argument for it in Koha, but not in general.
13:26 marcelr eythian: about consistency, we have 1000s of perl scripts and 10 do not end with pl ?
13:26 eythian jcamins: that sounds like a misconfiguration in selinux then, you're basing the filetype detection on a bit of information that's not actually related to the filetype.
13:25 marcelr that's why they found out the file extension stuff :-)
13:25 jcamins eythian: it works with SELinux.
13:25 eythian I haven't seen any :)
13:25 marcelr but there are also good arguments why it should
13:25 eythian especially when in a URL
13:24 eythian there's no real need for a perl file to end in .pl, and there are good arguments why it shouldn't.
13:24 marcelr sorry again
13:24 marcelr no i mean opac/svc/report
13:24 jcamins svc/report is not a new file, so your patch may already have it.
13:23 marcelr have a patch for that waiting; but it must include that svc/report now too
13:23 kf wouldn't it be better to check for the first line of the script maybe?
13:23 kf hm I think a pl ending is not recommended by some perl books?
13:23 marcelr could be, yeah; but since it changed, i have to relabel it
13:23 jcamins About a dozen.
13:22 * jcamins didn't name the file, just edited it.
13:22 marcelr not that much
13:22 jcamins There are a bunch of files like that.
13:22 marcelr he expects .pl at the end; i told him so
13:22 jcamins It doesn't? Hm.
13:22 marcelr my selinux does not like such files
13:21 kf pretty cool :)
13:21 marcelr jcamins: svc/report is not a nice perl file
13:21 kf caught 2 problems that would have caused problems
13:21 kf marcel++ for testing patches!
13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC
13:21 jcamins marcelr: follow-up attached to bug 8206.
13:20 jcamins At the time they would have been up to date.
13:20 kf *sigh*
13:20 kf nah I am, because I didn't update my index files too
13:20 kf so I am not guilty of bad testing? ;)
13:18 jcamins Yeah. And I guess I was a little too focused on making sure DOM worked.
13:18 marcelr that was a big one
13:18 jcamins (from 7284)
13:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Signed Off , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records
13:17 jcamins I think what happened is that when I was signing off on bug 7818 I inadvertantly trampled my indexing changes.
13:17 marcelr nice thing of 8256 is: no yui, no zebra
13:17 jcamins But I have a follow-up for you which will make it better. :)
13:17 jcamins That too. :P
13:16 marcelr another test note: get your zebra config back in line with master.. *sigh*
13:16 jcamins My changes to UNIMARC remain.
13:15 jcamins (by copying the changes back into the file)
13:15 jcamins Okay, I unreverted my changes to record.abs for MARC21.
13:13 marcelr no response yet
13:13 marcelr and bugzilla is too probably
13:13 marcelr i am terribly sorry :-)
13:12 jcamins I mean, you won't get any results, but it shouldn't have given that error.
13:12 jcamins Yeah.
13:12 marcelr oops it is in master, but not in mine?
13:11 jcamins My record.abs was still reverted, but the bib1.att was not.
13:11 jcamins In your bib1.att?
13:11 jcamins marcelr: you don't see 8900?
13:10 marcelr if it is even slow
13:09 marcelr bugzilla is very slow
13:09 gaetan_B i guess i'll tell them to export a csv and manage it this way
13:09 kf jcamins: I did def test before dom was pushed
13:09 kf jcamins: that's a possibility
13:08 kf gaetan_B: and the mail links don't work so well - there is some untranslated text in the subjects and maybe a problem with diacritics
13:08 gaetan_B kf: the table is not sortable and i couldn't find a syspref for this
13:08 jcamins kf: I think because you tested before DOM? Somehow my Zebra config got reverted.
13:08 kf gaetan_B: different kind of workflow maybe - couldn't it be sortable?
13:07 marcelr i have some reports there too very small
13:07 gaetan_B hmmm, i just noticed that in older versions (namely 3.0) overdues were grouped by borrower in overdue.pl, which made a lot of sense for libraries who use the 'email' links on this page to send overdue notices. Now they are sorted by return date, and you would end up sending one email per late document rather than per borrower. Was there a reason behind this change ?
13:07 kf I don't overwrite them often, I might have missed that
13:07 jcamins marcelr: I hardly have time to sign off on things!
13:07 kf maybe my zebra fiels are different from recent testing of something else?
13:07 marcelr kf: no problem
13:07 kf hm
13:07 marcelr last question was for jcamins
13:06 kf marcelr: :( I am not sure how that happened - I did test.
13:06 marcelr wouldn't you like to be qa er too?
13:06 marcelr you did not interfere the qa discussion
13:05 marcelr signed by cait as well
13:05 * jcamins didn't want you to be bored.
13:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Reports webservice should allow selection by name
13:05 marcelr bug 8256
13:05 marcelr another report of that jcamins on top of signed off queue
13:04 jcamins This is really weird.
13:04 marcelr one day match will be matching
13:03 jcamins You are right... the version of bib1.att and record.abs in Master are not the ones that I carefully rewrote.
13:03 marcelr will put my note in the report
13:02 jcamins Hm.
13:02 jcamins I will check into it.
13:01 marcelr kf: you could not have results with 1=Match ?
13:01 marcelr ;)
13:00 wahanui marcelr: wish i knew
13:00 marcelr wahanui: what are you doing?
13:00 marcelr ?
13:00 marcelr he wahanui again>
13:00 wahanui match-heading is missing?
13:00 marcelr match-heading
13:00 marcelr i see 8804
13:00 kf dom was not in then
13:00 * kf tested it with grs only
13:00 jcamins I thought I added it for 7284.
12:59 jcamins Good question.
12:59 marcelr no results of course
12:59 marcelr Search authorities ERROR 114
12:59 jcamins Hm.
12:58 marcelr :-)
12:58 marcelr you know the old grs way..
12:58 marcelr cannot find it in bib1.att
12:58 marcelr jcamins: are you sure about 1=Match ?
12:58 jcamins marcelr: yes?
12:58 marcelr yes you did
12:58 jcamins She did.
12:57 kf didn't she sign off on that?
12:57 kf lol
12:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC
12:57 wahanui hmmm... bug 8206 is ready for cait's sign off.
12:57 marcelr jcamins: bug 8206 ?
12:41 kf we should start a wiki page for testing... maybe (wanted to do that for like forever...)
12:41 kf good point about testing
12:41 kf :)
12:41 jcamins Yay!
12:40 marcelr ok, it works now for both yuipaths
12:39 jcamins marcelr++
12:39 jcamins Thanks. :)
12:39 marcelr i deleted it
12:38 jcamins No one, but it offends me to have the wrong link in a commit message. ;)
12:37 marcelr just remove that link; who reads that?
12:37 marcelr i will do
12:37 jcamins When you're signing off on that, could you remove the link in the commit message? It's pointing to the wrong report.
12:36 jcamins There we go.
12:36 marcelr yes, i see it
12:36 * jcamins tries again.
12:36 jcamins No I didn't.
12:35 jcamins Oops.
12:35 jcamins Attached follow-up.
12:34 jcamins *was just
12:34 * jcamins is just going to beg oleonard to change menubuttons to jQueryUI next. ;)
12:34 marcelr this thing might be interesting to copy to dev list; when something with yui changes, also test both yuipaths too
12:32 jcamins That's the one.
12:32 marcelr id: savemenuc ?
12:32 jcamins gmcharlt: the server that fulfillment-ill.org is on ran out of disk space, hard.
12:31 marcelr will take a look
12:31 jcamins Apparently that's only used for non-menu buttons in the newest version of YUI.
12:31 jcamins The problem was the "id" line.
12:30 marcelr ok
12:30 jcamins I'm putting a copyright statement for the MADS stylesheet.
12:30 jcamins Yeah, I'm doing a follow-up.
12:30 marcelr new patch forthcoming?
12:30 marcelr ok what did you do?
12:28 jcamins Ooh, fixed it!
12:25 jcamins This is really weird.
12:07 jcamins I shall try.
12:07 jcamins Oh, I see.
12:07 jcamins What do you mean?
12:07 marcelr can you specify new blank target in the yui url ?
12:06 marcelr jcamins: note that the detail template works (via form get)
12:05 jcamins Weird. There is no difference in the markup.
12:02 jcamins drojf: yeah, I figure if anything is going to be curmudgeonly, it'll be IE.
12:02 marcelr no wisdom involved :-)
12:02 jcamins Good catch.
12:02 jcamins Lemme see if I can troubleshoot this.
12:02 jcamins marcelr: it's yuipath.
12:02 marcelr i see that i can move 3 commit forward
12:01 drojf haha, you got IE
12:01 * jcamins is trying it in IE.
12:00 Rakesh bii
12:00 Rakesh kk
12:00 jcamins Hm. The commit from when I just applied it to master from bz was aa7331...
11:59 jcamins Rakesh: I'm sorry, I have to go back to my work now.
11:59 Rakesh according to u in which files should i check
11:59 marcelr commit 74f6e97396eb7368fb4e408bcf00ca9ff399c5a3
11:58 marcelr on a clean master + only 8203
11:58 jcamins I will set my computer to do the same and see what I see.
11:58 marcelr pointing at yahoo, yes
11:57 jcamins Are you using YUI from Yahoo's servers?
11:57 jcamins That's what I'm thinking.
11:57 marcelr yui thing ?
11:57 marcelr jcamins: copying link address does not work; i installed ff 13.0.1 english; the problem persists ?!
11:56 jcamins We can't troubleshoot things magically.
11:56 jcamins Check again.
11:56 Rakesh it is the same'
11:56 Rakesh but i checcked everywhere
11:56 jcamins However, if you are now getting access denied, that means your username/password isn't right.
11:56 Rakesh ya but i am getting the problem
11:55 Rakesh thats all and i entered virtualhost *:81
11:55 jcamins That should work.
11:55 Rakesh and listen 8081
11:55 Rakesh and in apache ports.conf i entered listen 81
11:55 Rakesh 81 an 8081
11:55 Rakesh in the httpd-conf file of the second install just changed the ports
11:54 Rakesh see what i just did is that
11:54 jcamins Rakesh: in that case you messed something up while trying to do things with the virtual host.
11:53 Rakesh no i checked it in koha-conf.xml it uses the right password
11:53 jcamins If you right click, does "Copy link address" work?
11:51 marcelr yes
11:51 jcamins And you're on a branch that is master + that patch?
11:50 jcamins Hm.
11:49 marcelr jcamins: in detail.tt export.pl is called from a form; on auth side from a yui menu (there is a difference)
11:48 jcamins Rakesh: you entered the wrong password.
11:48 Rakesh hey any one around that can help
11:48 jcamins Hm.
11:47 marcelr i refreshed a couple of times..
11:47 jcamins And just to check, if you do an Alt-reload of an authority page, does that fix it?
11:47 marcelr yes that works fine
11:46 marcelr will check it
11:46 jcamins Are you able to download bib records in the staff client using the Save menu?
11:46 jcamins No, it isn't.
11:45 marcelr but 9 is not that old in ff terms..
11:45 marcelr i will try an update, jcamins
11:45 Rakesh what do ou guys think is the solution
11:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8203 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Should be possible to save individual authorities
11:45 jcamins marcelr: I'm looking at bug 8203. Unfortunately I haven't figured out how to download old versions of FF yet, but it works fine on Firefox 13.
11:44 marcelr jcamins hi
11:42 Rakesh in /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/Context.pm
11:41 Rakesh ok i solved the prob of virtual hosts but it says access denied for user koha1
11:41 jcamins marcelr: around?
11:41 Rakesh yes
11:37 drojf Rakesh: are you sure that multiple instances is what you are looking for? are you familiar with the concept of library branches in koha?
11:34 jcamins You cannot access multiple instances via IP.
11:15 Rakesh hey rangi can u help
11:14 Rakesh any 1 who can help me
11:14 Rakesh plz help
11:14 Rakesh and it gives pherhaps u need named virtual hosts
11:13 Rakesh also
11:13 Rakesh port 192.168.1.60 :80 is overlapping 192.168.1.60:80 and same error on port 8080
11:12 Rakesh and when i try to restart apache it says
11:12 Rakesh and i am having a previous koha installation running too
11:11 Rakesh as per described in the guide of koha wiki
11:11 Rakesh on multiple instances
11:11 Rakesh i tried to install koha
11:11 Rakesh any 1 there
11:11 Rakesh :D
11:10 Rakesh :)
11:10 Rakesh want your help again
11:10 Rakesh hello guys
11:10 Rakesh hi
11:04 kf so.. didn't type it in a while
11:04 eythian ah right.
11:04 eythian > San Diego Bay launched 20 minutes worth of fireworks in the span of 9 seconds in an epic 4th of July failure. This is what it looked like... http://i.imgur.com/2fghq.jpg
11:04 kf but I am not at the laptop now
11:04 kf the problem is that the one on my laptop does...
11:03 eythian shouldn't your browser store it?
11:03 eythian heh
11:03 kf *sigh*
11:03 kf I forgot the password for my own wiki..
11:02 eythian https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/braid/ <-- for those who don't know, though it needs more screenshots.
11:01 drojf yes it's nice
11:01 eythian It's a gorgeous game.
11:01 eythian mind you, I should spend some time finishing Braid, too.
11:01 eythian heh
11:00 drojf or not talk about it at least :D
10:59 eythian hmm Ok. I'll have to give amnesia a try, perhaps not when I'm at work though.
10:58 drojf braid worked ok for me
10:58 eythian DRI thing talks about sandybridge
10:57 eythian once I enabled the patent-restricted OpenGL functions, anyway
10:57 eythian "Braid" uses 3D too (though quite differently) and works fine on this.
10:57 drojf as long as it works, who needs to know :)
10:57 drojf heh
10:56 eythian I seem to have a pretty good intel chip in here, though I have no idea what it actually is.
10:56 drojf i think i tried it briefly and it did not work. did not try a lot though
10:56 eythian I haven't actually tried it on my laptop, it can possibly manage.
10:55 drojf unfortunately it does not come with a better graphics card
10:55 eythian https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/amnesia/
10:54 kf Amnesia?
10:51 eythian Oh nice, the Ubuntu install for "Amnesia" comes with PDF manuals and background stories.
10:48 kf_lunch back
10:15 eythian Brooke: never!
10:15 rangi well i've update the bug, we'll see what happens
10:15 Brooke (indeed, you sound like a bloody Yank talking that way.)
10:15 rangi yep
10:15 rangi :)
10:15 eythian (that was a terrible sentence)
10:14 eythian yeah. Though it's a strange thing to make needing to be set, given it'll work fine the way it's implemented by default.
10:14 rangi it seems like somethign someone would set somewhere in a livecd for ppl to change
10:13 rangi or hosts
10:13 rangi and thats whats set in apache or something
10:13 rangi so i wonder if its from some livecd
10:13 rangi ie all links to /cgi-bin/koha/
10:12 rangi its all relative
10:12 eythian ah right
10:12 rangi i just grepped for opac-suggestions.pl
10:11 eythian well, he hasn't said what page he's coming from that does this, it's possible there's some strange abberation somewhere.
10:11 eythian yeah, it's using relative links like everywhere else.
10:09 rangi i checked that doesnt exist in the templates
10:09 rangi thats gotta be some local mod or syspref
10:09 eythian that is pretty odd
10:06 rangi we get some bizzare bug reports these days
10:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8358 major, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Purchase Suggestion Link don't open
10:04 rangi bug 8358
10:04 rangi hmm what??
09:37 Brooke kf++ forevar
09:33 marcelr good point in your reply
09:32 kf thx marcel
09:32 marcelr kf++
09:25 jransom oi
09:24 Brooke wizzyrea: http://kansas2012.thatcamp.org/
09:20 Brooke o/
09:13 eythian cool
09:13 eythian hi kf
09:13 kf you made it into our newsletter
09:13 * kf waves at eythian
09:03 jransom good morning
09:02 ropuch Good morning #koha
09:02 eythian will do, I'll probably be seeing her on Tuesday as that's pub quiz night :)
09:02 jransom well please say hi for me. I liked her enormously
08:59 eythian tis a bit :)
08:59 eythian right now working in a cafe, trying to get a job as a journalist.
08:58 jransom such a small world aye
08:58 jransom whats she doing there?
08:57 jransom well thats amazing :)
08:56 eythian Well, I'm in Brighton. Turns out she is too, and is friends with some of my workmates here.
08:55 jransom how the hell did you run into Shannon?
08:55 jransom yeah
08:55 eythian jransom: hello there. Did you get my note, Shannon Gillies says hi :)
08:54 jransom heya Robin :)
08:53 eythian howdy
08:53 rangi hi eythian
08:47 jransom ok - ill hunt for finished wrs too
08:47 rangi i probably put it in a wr for you to put in
08:47 jransom i can see 1 report only loaded in 2010
08:46 rangi yeah i emailed them
08:45 jransom ok - i'll go hunting and see if there is more than 1 report (maybe Danny is running the wrong one)
08:45 marcelr rangi: ohloh did not update koha anymore for 21 days; problem with commit history or .. ?
08:44 jransom live site?
08:44 jransom in our install?
08:44 rangi in saved reports
08:44 rangi its a report
08:44 jransom so is the new script stored anywhere i can access it ?
08:43 jransom that would be an easy fix
08:43 jransom ok - well lets hope that i am running an old report :)
08:43 rangi i know i wrote a new one that is correct
08:43 rangi i cant remember if i did or not
08:41 jransom I thought you had checked our sql report to confirm it was getting them all
08:41 rangi if its one that either doesnt join to the items table, or joins to a union of items and deleteditems then yep
08:40 jransom i wonder if he runs our sql report whether if would find his missing issues
08:40 rangi no but you might be using a report that was written for 3.2
08:40 jransom is that what we are using
08:40 jransom ouch
08:39 jransom so if had is that what we are using?
08:39 kf rangi is right -I don't recommend using the wizard
08:38 rangi the fix is to use a custom report that uses the statistics table
08:38 rangi that doesnt count correctly post 3.2.x
08:37 rangi paul uses the circulation wizard
08:37 jransom and we have to answer for this every month
08:37 jransom the problem Paul and I both have is that we have huge drops in issue counts after upgrading from 3.2 to 3.6
08:37 rangi and join to items and deleteditems
08:37 rangi its not a problem as long as you use the statistics table
08:36 jransom and wondering how to tackle this in a methodical way and just check off each and every source of issues
08:36 jransom so i have been thinking about this issues count problem in 3.6
08:35 jransom shame about the weather
08:34 rangi for the most part yup
08:33 jransom Rangi: enjoying your holiday
08:32 jransom oh look at that - i got my irc client on my phne woring )
08:32 jransom hiya
08:30 kf hi jransom
08:30 rangi hi jransom
08:11 drojf heh
08:11 rangi it even has a blink!!
08:10 rangi http://koha.ignouonline.ac.in/
08:10 rangi this is quite cool
08:09 drojf because in "that blog post i found" from 2008 or 2006 they are not mentioned
08:09 drojf of course it's there, but there are a lot of people lately that refuse to use it
08:08 drojf i was joking
08:08 drojf heh
08:08 kf at all
08:08 kf the problem is people with no command line skills
08:08 kf I think it's already pretty easy
08:08 drojf kf: yeah we could call it that maybe :D
08:08 marcelr hi drojf
08:08 wahanui i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
08:08 kf drojf: packages?
08:08 drojf good morning kf and marcelr
08:07 drojf we should really have something to make installation easier. like some kind of pack where all you need just gets installed. that would help people a lot
08:07 marcelr :-)
08:07 kf ok
08:07 kf lol
08:06 kf now I am not sure I want to look there
08:05 wahanui mailing list is, like, at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
08:05 rangi mailing list
08:04 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
08:04 kf rangi?
08:04 rangi eek *head explode*
07:55 kf I still have to read the mails
07:42 rangi back
07:40 marcelr ok
07:39 paul_p marcelr mason answered privately (he was on a non-koha project for 3 weeks, and should be able to do some QA next week)
07:38 marcelr paul_p: no more responses on your qa mail unfortunately..
07:37 paul_p hi marcelr & kf & others
07:37 marcelr hi paul_p
07:32 kf ... and back
07:32 kf morning #koha
07:29 paul_p good morning #koha
07:28 * Oak waves
07:16 rangi was the best i could find on short notice :)
07:16 rangi hehe
07:15 asaurat hi !
07:15 liw oh that old thing
07:15 rangi hi asaurat
07:13 rangi i was gonna point rakesh at http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html (which liw might recognise)
07:12 gaetan_B :)
07:12 * drojf is off to the shower
07:12 drojf hi gaetan_B
07:12 rangi hi gaetan_B
07:12 gaetan_B hello #koha !
07:10 Rakesh http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installing_Multiple_Instances_of_Koha this is the page
07:10 Rakesh the koha wiki 1
07:10 Rakesh plz tell which guide should i follow?
07:09 Rakesh plz tell which guide should i follow
07:09 Rakesh and i want it
07:09 Rakesh i am actually a web designer '
07:09 Rakesh no no
07:09 drojf for business purposes means you want to sell your koha services to people?
07:08 Rakesh so sholud it try this command in the bash
07:08 Rakesh so i want multiple instances
07:08 Rakesh actually i have a server and i want to use it for bussiness purpose
07:07 rangi why do you want multiple instances?
07:06 Rakesh in the bash?
07:06 rangi you just koha-create instancename
07:06 Rakesh yes
07:06 rangi makes it easy
07:06 rangi like jcamins and eythian said
07:06 Rakesh kk
07:06 rangi if you want to run multiple instances installing with the debian packages
07:06 Rakesh it should run koha on different databases
07:05 Rakesh but i want such a system that
07:05 Rakesh yes a little
07:05 rangi yep it assumes you understand how do administer a linux server
07:05 Rakesh yes
07:05 drojf have you actually run koha and used it?
07:05 Rakesh so which guide should i follow
07:04 Rakesh kk
07:04 drojf that might be why it sounds easy, because it skips the complicated parts
07:04 Rakesh *files
07:04 Rakesh but i dont know where to copy the diles
07:04 Rakesh so i read it
07:03 Rakesh i found the post easy
07:03 Rakesh but it was confusing
07:03 Rakesh i read the kiha wiki alsso
07:03 drojf morning even
07:03 drojf good monring #koha
07:03 rangi before i tried to run multiple instances
07:02 rangi id learn about how to run koha first, and how to do linux sysadmin
07:02 Rakesh who can give me the guide
07:02 Rakesh is there no one
06:59 Rakesh please help
06:59 Rakesh hi matts and francharb
06:58 matts hi #koha !
06:58 Rakesh hey rangi can u help me
06:58 francharb hi all
06:57 francharb hi rangi
06:57 Rakesh i dont know where to copy the files
06:57 Rakesh Unless you have reason to run them on separate IP addresses, this sounds like serious overkill. You can just create a new DB from within mysql to hold the data of the second one, copy the apache config from the running one, change the location of the koha_conf.xml to one that specifies the different DB and zebra information, change the server names that i
06:56 Rakesh plz help it says
06:56 Rakesh but i dont know where to copy it
06:55 Rakesh and in the second reply it says to copy the koha and apache koha file
06:55 Rakesh http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/MULTIPLE-KOHA-ON-ONE-SERVER-td3304116.html i was reading this
06:55 Rakesh but now i want to install multiple instances of koha'
06:54 Rakesh and it worked
06:54 Rakesh i installed koha on my server
06:54 Rakesh hi to all
06:54 julian_m hi rangi
06:54 Rakesh hi
06:52 rangi hi julian_m and francharb
06:52 julian_m hi marcelr
06:52 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXesMkAYh44
06:52 rangi darn missed her
06:52 rangi cait: your ideas are intriguing to me, and i wish to subscribe to your newsletter
06:51 * cait runs out
06:51 marcelr hi julian_m
06:51 cait hi julian_m
06:51 julian_m hello
06:51 rangi yeah
06:51 cait exactly
06:50 marcelr some reports miss background and we should ask for it
06:50 cait and now I have to hurry and get myself to work :) bbl!
06:50 cait asking questions about the why and how to use things
06:50 cait and that shoudl also be done
06:50 cait but I think some of the features added recently I don't have a use case for
06:49 cait trying to catch what could be a problem
06:49 cait I mean I try reading the code and making suggestions as good as I can
06:49 marcelr Feature Manager !
06:49 cait features need some second perspective too
06:49 cait but about featues
06:49 cait I am not so worried about the code sometimes
06:49 cait koha is moving on fast
06:47 rangi not until we get more ppl signing off anyway
06:47 marcelr yeah
06:47 rangi ie, qa isnt the bottleneck
06:47 rangi what we need is more people signing off
06:47 rangi yep QA is working well
06:46 marcelr signed off=40; in 2011 it has been 100
06:46 cait we had it down to pretty good numbers after the hackfest in marseille I think, never again since
06:46 cait yeah
06:46 marcelr almost always
06:46 marcelr need signoff is >100
06:46 cait trying to make more time, but at the moment things are crazy
06:45 cait and there is so much to do :(
06:45 marcelr true
06:45 rangi done=down
06:45 cait I considered it last round, but really bug wrangling is enough for me right now
06:45 marcelr cait++
06:45 rangi cait would be good at that, but then we are done one of our most prolific sign off people
06:44 marcelr paul wants you in qa
06:44 cait yeah rangi showed me
06:44 marcelr ok you were mentioned even!
06:44 cait I haven't read them yet
06:44 rangi yeah
06:44 marcelr some-> some more
06:44 rangi only you and me eh?
06:44 * marcelr i expected to see some response on dev list about the qa thing..
06:42 rangi heh
06:39 marcelr :-)
06:39 marcelr koha 11.2
06:39 cait we should just avoid all the emailing... can't we find a way to put it in people's dreams or heads directly?
06:37 marcelr rangi: so you did it :-)
06:37 reiveune hello rangi, everybody
06:36 rangi hi reiveune
06:35 rangi and forward it all to the cia
06:35 rangi i just read everyones mail
06:34 cait and whatever we do should work for lists the same way then
06:34 cait or not
06:34 cait hopefully I will find out for sure what needs to be done
06:33 cait marcelr: I had forwarded him the queston, but paul was faster with his mail on the mailing list
06:31 rangi :)
06:31 rangi who knows, but if you let people turn it on, they can if they want
06:31 marcelr we did not have it
06:31 marcelr but is it really needed?
06:30 rangi so even if its fine for germany, its immaterial imho :)
06:30 rangi the thing still stands, that with a syspref it can work for any jurisdiction
06:30 marcelr ok
06:30 cait was travellig
06:30 cait only got a short mail, hope to catch him today
06:29 marcelr cait: what did he say?
06:29 alex_a :)
06:29 alex_a i don't know if it deserves a ++
06:29 cait marcelr: might turn out I was wrong about the ip thing - talking to our expert today
06:29 marcelr hi alex_a, cait and rangi
06:29 cait hi marcelr
06:28 rangi hi marcelr
06:27 cait alex_a++ :)
06:26 alex_a hi marcelr
06:25 marcelr hi #koha
06:18 alex_a hehe
06:18 rangi you have more patience than me
06:18 rangi alex_a1++
06:18 rangi heh
06:18 alex_a1 \o
06:18 Rakesh bii'
06:18 alex_a1 :)
06:18 Rakesh :)
06:18 Rakesh thanks bro it wrks
06:16 alex_a1 and look for <config> -> <user> and <config> -> <pass>
06:15 Rakesh kk
06:15 alex_a1 Rakesh: can you open /etc/koha-conf.xml
06:15 Rakesh but it gives the error
06:14 alex_a1 Rakesh: yes
06:13 Rakesh but still it givees this error
06:13 Rakesh yesterday someone told me that he mysql passworf and the koha password cannot be differnt
06:12 Rakesh it just gives this error only
06:12 Rakesh no
06:11 alex_a1 ?
06:11 alex_a1 Rakesh: can you connect to your database with a mysql client
06:08 Rakesh alex_a1 can u help me
06:06 Rakesh plz help
06:06 Rakesh Access denied for user 'koha'@'localhost' (using password: NO) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 758.
06:06 Rakesh i e
06:06 Rakesh it gives me a error about mysql
06:06 alex_a1 bonjour #koha
06:05 Rakesh i installed koha
06:04 Rakesh hi
05:38 druthb :P
05:37 cait and go to sleep druthb!
05:37 druthb Hi rangi :)
05:37 cait hi rangi :)
05:37 rangi hi cait and druthb
04:21 Oak hello Judit \o/
04:21 Judit hi oak
04:18 Oak hello rangi :)
04:18 Oak Ahoy me hearties
02:32 rangi yay!
02:31 ibeardslee rangi: http://zareason.co.nz
01:00 mtj hi Judit
00:36 Judit hi
00:02 mtj tomascohen: dump out the table structures, and run diffs on them