Time Nick Message 00:02 mtj tomascohen: dump out the table structures, and run diffs on them 00:36 Judit hi 01:00 mtj hi Judit 02:31 ibeardslee rangi: http://zareason.co.nz 02:32 rangi yay! 04:18 Oak Ahoy me hearties 04:18 Oak hello rangi :) 04:21 Judit hi oak 04:21 Oak hello Judit \o/ 05:37 rangi hi cait and druthb 05:37 cait hi rangi :) 05:37 druthb Hi rangi :) 05:37 cait and go to sleep druthb! 05:38 druthb :P 06:04 Rakesh hi 06:05 Rakesh i installed koha 06:06 alex_a1 bonjour #koha 06:06 Rakesh it gives me a error about mysql 06:06 Rakesh i e 06:06 Rakesh Access denied for user 'koha'@'localhost' (using password: NO) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 758. 06:06 Rakesh plz help 06:08 Rakesh alex_a1 can u help me 06:11 alex_a1 Rakesh: can you connect to your database with a mysql client 06:11 alex_a1 ? 06:12 Rakesh no 06:12 Rakesh it just gives this error only 06:13 Rakesh yesterday someone told me that he mysql passworf and the koha password cannot be differnt 06:13 Rakesh but still it givees this error 06:14 alex_a1 Rakesh: yes 06:15 Rakesh but it gives the error 06:15 alex_a1 Rakesh: can you open /etc/koha-conf.xml 06:15 Rakesh kk 06:16 alex_a1 and look for <config> -> <user> and <config> -> <pass> 06:18 Rakesh thanks bro it wrks 06:18 Rakesh :) 06:18 alex_a1 :) 06:18 Rakesh bii' 06:18 alex_a1 \o 06:18 rangi heh 06:18 rangi alex_a1++ 06:18 rangi you have more patience than me 06:18 alex_a hehe 06:25 marcelr hi #koha 06:26 alex_a hi marcelr 06:27 cait alex_a++ :) 06:28 rangi hi marcelr 06:29 cait hi marcelr 06:29 marcelr hi alex_a, cait and rangi 06:29 cait marcelr: might turn out I was wrong about the ip thing - talking to our expert today 06:29 alex_a i don't know if it deserves a ++ 06:29 alex_a :) 06:29 marcelr cait: what did he say? 06:30 cait only got a short mail, hope to catch him today 06:30 cait was travellig 06:30 marcelr ok 06:30 rangi the thing still stands, that with a syspref it can work for any jurisdiction 06:30 rangi so even if its fine for germany, its immaterial imho :) 06:31 marcelr but is it really needed? 06:31 marcelr we did not have it 06:31 rangi who knows, but if you let people turn it on, they can if they want 06:31 rangi :) 06:33 cait marcelr: I had forwarded him the queston, but paul was faster with his mail on the mailing list 06:34 cait hopefully I will find out for sure what needs to be done 06:34 cait or not 06:34 cait and whatever we do should work for lists the same way then 06:35 rangi i just read everyones mail 06:35 rangi and forward it all to the cia 06:36 rangi hi reiveune 06:37 reiveune hello rangi, everybody 06:37 marcelr rangi: so you did it :-) 06:39 cait we should just avoid all the emailing... can't we find a way to put it in people's dreams or heads directly? 06:39 marcelr koha 11.2 06:39 marcelr :-) 06:42 rangi heh 06:44 * marcelr i expected to see some response on dev list about the qa thing.. 06:44 rangi only you and me eh? 06:44 marcelr some-> some more 06:44 rangi yeah 06:44 cait I haven't read them yet 06:44 marcelr ok you were mentioned even! 06:44 cait yeah rangi showed me 06:44 marcelr paul wants you in qa 06:45 rangi cait would be good at that, but then we are done one of our most prolific sign off people 06:45 marcelr cait++ 06:45 cait I considered it last round, but really bug wrangling is enough for me right now 06:45 rangi done=down 06:45 marcelr true 06:45 cait and there is so much to do :( 06:46 cait trying to make more time, but at the moment things are crazy 06:46 marcelr need signoff is >100 06:46 marcelr almost always 06:46 cait yeah 06:46 cait we had it down to pretty good numbers after the hackfest in marseille I think, never again since 06:46 marcelr signed off=40; in 2011 it has been 100 06:47 rangi yep QA is working well 06:47 rangi what we need is more people signing off 06:47 rangi ie, qa isnt the bottleneck 06:47 marcelr yeah 06:47 rangi not until we get more ppl signing off anyway 06:49 cait koha is moving on fast 06:49 cait I am not so worried about the code sometimes 06:49 cait but about featues 06:49 cait features need some second perspective too 06:49 marcelr Feature Manager ! 06:49 cait I mean I try reading the code and making suggestions as good as I can 06:49 cait trying to catch what could be a problem 06:50 cait but I think some of the features added recently I don't have a use case for 06:50 cait and that shoudl also be done 06:50 cait asking questions about the why and how to use things 06:50 cait and now I have to hurry and get myself to work :) bbl! 06:50 marcelr some reports miss background and we should ask for it 06:51 cait exactly 06:51 rangi yeah 06:51 julian_m hello 06:51 cait hi julian_m 06:51 marcelr hi julian_m 06:51 * cait runs out 06:52 rangi cait: your ideas are intriguing to me, and i wish to subscribe to your newsletter 06:52 rangi darn missed her 06:52 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXesMkAYh44 06:52 julian_m hi marcelr 06:52 rangi hi julian_m and francharb 06:54 Rakesh hi 06:54 julian_m hi rangi 06:54 Rakesh hi to all 06:54 Rakesh i installed koha on my server 06:54 Rakesh and it worked 06:55 Rakesh but now i want to install multiple instances of koha' 06:55 Rakesh http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/MULTIPLE-KOHA-ON-ONE-SERVER-td3304116.html i was reading this 06:55 Rakesh and in the second reply it says to copy the koha and apache koha file 06:56 Rakesh but i dont know where to copy it 06:56 Rakesh plz help it says 06:57 Rakesh Unless you have reason to run them on separate IP addresses, this sounds like serious overkill. You can just create a new DB from within mysql to hold the data of the second one, copy the apache config from the running one, change the location of the koha_conf.xml to one that specifies the different DB and zebra information, change the server names that i 06:57 Rakesh i dont know where to copy the files 06:57 francharb hi rangi 06:58 francharb hi all 06:58 Rakesh hey rangi can u help me 06:58 matts hi #koha ! 06:59 Rakesh hi matts and francharb 06:59 Rakesh please help 07:02 Rakesh is there no one 07:02 Rakesh who can give me the guide 07:02 rangi id learn about how to run koha first, and how to do linux sysadmin 07:03 rangi before i tried to run multiple instances 07:03 drojf good monring #koha 07:03 drojf morning even 07:03 Rakesh i read the kiha wiki alsso 07:03 Rakesh but it was confusing 07:03 Rakesh i found the post easy 07:04 Rakesh so i read it 07:04 Rakesh but i dont know where to copy the diles 07:04 Rakesh *files 07:04 drojf that might be why it sounds easy, because it skips the complicated parts 07:04 Rakesh kk 07:05 Rakesh so which guide should i follow 07:05 drojf have you actually run koha and used it? 07:05 Rakesh yes 07:05 rangi yep it assumes you understand how do administer a linux server 07:05 Rakesh yes a little 07:05 Rakesh but i want such a system that 07:06 Rakesh it should run koha on different databases 07:06 rangi if you want to run multiple instances installing with the debian packages 07:06 Rakesh kk 07:06 rangi like jcamins and eythian said 07:06 rangi makes it easy 07:06 Rakesh yes 07:06 rangi you just koha-create instancename 07:06 Rakesh in the bash? 07:07 rangi why do you want multiple instances? 07:08 Rakesh actually i have a server and i want to use it for bussiness purpose 07:08 Rakesh so i want multiple instances 07:08 Rakesh so sholud it try this command in the bash 07:09 drojf for business purposes means you want to sell your koha services to people? 07:09 Rakesh no no 07:09 Rakesh i am actually a web designer ' 07:09 Rakesh and i want it 07:09 Rakesh plz tell which guide should i follow 07:10 Rakesh plz tell which guide should i follow? 07:10 Rakesh the koha wiki 1 07:10 Rakesh http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installing_Multiple_Instances_of_Koha this is the page 07:12 gaetan_B hello #koha ! 07:12 rangi hi gaetan_B 07:12 drojf hi gaetan_B 07:12 * drojf is off to the shower 07:12 gaetan_B :) 07:13 rangi i was gonna point rakesh at http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html (which liw might recognise) 07:15 rangi hi asaurat 07:15 liw oh that old thing 07:15 asaurat hi ! 07:16 rangi hehe 07:16 rangi was the best i could find on short notice :) 07:28 * Oak waves 07:29 paul_p good morning #koha 07:32 kf morning #koha 07:32 kf ... and back 07:37 marcelr hi paul_p 07:37 paul_p hi marcelr & kf & others 07:38 marcelr paul_p: no more responses on your qa mail unfortunately.. 07:39 paul_p marcelr mason answered privately (he was on a non-koha project for 3 weeks, and should be able to do some QA next week) 07:40 marcelr ok 07:42 rangi back 07:55 kf I still have to read the mails 08:04 rangi eek *head explode* 08:04 kf rangi? 08:04 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 08:05 rangi mailing list 08:05 wahanui mailing list is, like, at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 08:06 kf now I am not sure I want to look there 08:07 kf lol 08:07 kf ok 08:07 marcelr :-) 08:07 drojf we should really have something to make installation easier. like some kind of pack where all you need just gets installed. that would help people a lot 08:08 drojf good morning kf and marcelr 08:08 kf drojf: packages? 08:08 wahanui i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 08:08 marcelr hi drojf 08:08 drojf kf: yeah we could call it that maybe :D 08:08 kf I think it's already pretty easy 08:08 kf the problem is people with no command line skills 08:08 kf at all 08:08 drojf heh 08:08 drojf i was joking 08:09 drojf of course it's there, but there are a lot of people lately that refuse to use it 08:09 drojf because in "that blog post i found" from 2008 or 2006 they are not mentioned 08:10 rangi this is quite cool 08:10 rangi http://koha.ignouonline.ac.in/ 08:11 rangi it even has a blink!! 08:11 drojf heh 08:30 rangi hi jransom 08:30 kf hi jransom 08:32 jransom hiya 08:32 jransom oh look at that - i got my irc client on my phne woring ) 08:33 jransom Rangi: enjoying your holiday 08:34 rangi for the most part yup 08:35 jransom shame about the weather 08:36 jransom so i have been thinking about this issues count problem in 3.6 08:36 jransom and wondering how to tackle this in a methodical way and just check off each and every source of issues 08:37 rangi its not a problem as long as you use the statistics table 08:37 rangi and join to items and deleteditems 08:37 jransom the problem Paul and I both have is that we have huge drops in issue counts after upgrading from 3.2 to 3.6 08:37 jransom and we have to answer for this every month 08:37 rangi paul uses the circulation wizard 08:38 rangi that doesnt count correctly post 3.2.x 08:38 rangi the fix is to use a custom report that uses the statistics table 08:39 kf rangi is right -I don't recommend using the wizard 08:39 jransom so if had is that what we are using? 08:40 jransom ouch 08:40 jransom is that what we are using 08:40 rangi no but you might be using a report that was written for 3.2 08:40 jransom i wonder if he runs our sql report whether if would find his missing issues 08:41 rangi if its one that either doesnt join to the items table, or joins to a union of items and deleteditems then yep 08:41 jransom I thought you had checked our sql report to confirm it was getting them all 08:43 rangi i cant remember if i did or not 08:43 rangi i know i wrote a new one that is correct 08:43 jransom ok - well lets hope that i am running an old report :) 08:43 jransom that would be an easy fix 08:44 jransom so is the new script stored anywhere i can access it ? 08:44 rangi its a report 08:44 rangi in saved reports 08:44 jransom in our install? 08:44 jransom live site? 08:45 marcelr rangi: ohloh did not update koha anymore for 21 days; problem with commit history or .. ? 08:45 jransom ok - i'll go hunting and see if there is more than 1 report (maybe Danny is running the wrong one) 08:46 rangi yeah i emailed them 08:47 jransom i can see 1 report only loaded in 2010 08:47 rangi i probably put it in a wr for you to put in 08:47 jransom ok - ill hunt for finished wrs too 08:53 rangi hi eythian 08:53 eythian howdy 08:54 jransom heya Robin :) 08:55 eythian jransom: hello there. Did you get my note, Shannon Gillies says hi :) 08:55 jransom yeah 08:55 jransom how the hell did you run into Shannon? 08:56 eythian Well, I'm in Brighton. Turns out she is too, and is friends with some of my workmates here. 08:57 jransom well thats amazing :) 08:58 jransom whats she doing there? 08:58 jransom such a small world aye 08:59 eythian right now working in a cafe, trying to get a job as a journalist. 08:59 eythian tis a bit :) 09:02 jransom well please say hi for me. I liked her enormously 09:02 eythian will do, I'll probably be seeing her on Tuesday as that's pub quiz night :) 09:02 ropuch Good morning #koha 09:03 jransom good morning 09:13 * kf waves at eythian 09:13 kf you made it into our newsletter 09:13 eythian hi kf 09:13 eythian cool 09:20 Brooke o/ 09:24 Brooke wizzyrea: http://kansas2012.thatcamp.org/ 09:25 jransom oi 09:32 marcelr kf++ 09:32 kf thx marcel 09:33 marcelr good point in your reply 09:37 Brooke kf++ forevar 10:04 rangi hmm what?? 10:04 rangi bug 8358 10:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8358 major, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Purchase Suggestion Link don't open 10:06 rangi we get some bizzare bug reports these days 10:09 eythian that is pretty odd 10:09 rangi thats gotta be some local mod or syspref 10:09 rangi i checked that doesnt exist in the templates 10:11 eythian yeah, it's using relative links like everywhere else. 10:11 eythian well, he hasn't said what page he's coming from that does this, it's possible there's some strange abberation somewhere. 10:12 rangi i just grepped for opac-suggestions.pl 10:12 eythian ah right 10:12 rangi its all relative 10:13 rangi ie all links to /cgi-bin/koha/ 10:13 rangi so i wonder if its from some livecd 10:13 rangi and thats whats set in apache or something 10:13 rangi or hosts 10:14 rangi it seems like somethign someone would set somewhere in a livecd for ppl to change 10:14 eythian yeah. Though it's a strange thing to make needing to be set, given it'll work fine the way it's implemented by default. 10:15 eythian (that was a terrible sentence) 10:15 rangi :) 10:15 rangi yep 10:15 Brooke (indeed, you sound like a bloody Yank talking that way.) 10:15 rangi well i've update the bug, we'll see what happens 10:15 eythian Brooke: never! 10:48 kf_lunch back 10:51 eythian Oh nice, the Ubuntu install for "Amnesia" comes with PDF manuals and background stories. 10:54 kf Amnesia? 10:55 eythian https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/amnesia/ 10:55 drojf unfortunately it does not come with a better graphics card 10:56 eythian I haven't actually tried it on my laptop, it can possibly manage. 10:56 drojf i think i tried it briefly and it did not work. did not try a lot though 10:56 eythian I seem to have a pretty good intel chip in here, though I have no idea what it actually is. 10:57 drojf heh 10:57 drojf as long as it works, who needs to know :) 10:57 eythian "Braid" uses 3D too (though quite differently) and works fine on this. 10:57 eythian once I enabled the patent-restricted OpenGL functions, anyway 10:58 eythian DRI thing talks about sandybridge 10:58 drojf braid worked ok for me 10:59 eythian hmm Ok. I'll have to give amnesia a try, perhaps not when I'm at work though. 11:00 drojf or not talk about it at least :D 11:01 eythian heh 11:01 eythian mind you, I should spend some time finishing Braid, too. 11:01 eythian It's a gorgeous game. 11:01 drojf yes it's nice 11:02 eythian https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/braid/ <-- for those who don't know, though it needs more screenshots. 11:03 kf I forgot the password for my own wiki.. 11:03 kf *sigh* 11:03 eythian heh 11:03 eythian shouldn't your browser store it? 11:04 kf the problem is that the one on my laptop does... 11:04 kf but I am not at the laptop now 11:04 eythian > San Diego Bay launched 20 minutes worth of fireworks in the span of 9 seconds in an epic 4th of July failure. This is what it looked like... http://i.imgur.com/2fghq.jpg 11:04 eythian ah right. 11:04 kf so.. didn't type it in a while 11:10 Rakesh hi 11:10 Rakesh hello guys 11:10 Rakesh want your help again 11:10 Rakesh :) 11:11 Rakesh :D 11:11 Rakesh any 1 there 11:11 Rakesh i tried to install koha 11:11 Rakesh on multiple instances 11:11 Rakesh as per described in the guide of koha wiki 11:12 Rakesh and i am having a previous koha installation running too 11:12 Rakesh and when i try to restart apache it says 11:13 Rakesh port 192.168.1.60 :80 is overlapping 192.168.1.60:80 and same error on port 8080 11:13 Rakesh also 11:14 Rakesh and it gives pherhaps u need named virtual hosts 11:14 Rakesh plz help 11:14 Rakesh any 1 who can help me 11:15 Rakesh hey rangi can u help 11:34 jcamins You cannot access multiple instances via IP. 11:37 drojf Rakesh: are you sure that multiple instances is what you are looking for? are you familiar with the concept of library branches in koha? 11:41 Rakesh yes 11:41 jcamins marcelr: around? 11:41 Rakesh ok i solved the prob of virtual hosts but it says access denied for user koha1 11:42 Rakesh in /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/Context.pm 11:44 marcelr jcamins hi 11:45 jcamins marcelr: I'm looking at bug 8203. Unfortunately I haven't figured out how to download old versions of FF yet, but it works fine on Firefox 13. 11:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8203 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Should be possible to save individual authorities 11:45 Rakesh what do ou guys think is the solution 11:45 marcelr i will try an update, jcamins 11:45 marcelr but 9 is not that old in ff terms.. 11:46 jcamins No, it isn't. 11:46 jcamins Are you able to download bib records in the staff client using the Save menu? 11:46 marcelr will check it 11:47 marcelr yes that works fine 11:47 jcamins And just to check, if you do an Alt-reload of an authority page, does that fix it? 11:47 marcelr i refreshed a couple of times.. 11:48 jcamins Hm. 11:48 Rakesh hey any one around that can help 11:48 jcamins Rakesh: you entered the wrong password. 11:49 marcelr jcamins: in detail.tt export.pl is called from a form; on auth side from a yui menu (there is a difference) 11:50 jcamins Hm. 11:51 jcamins And you're on a branch that is master + that patch? 11:51 marcelr yes 11:53 jcamins If you right click, does "Copy link address" work? 11:53 Rakesh no i checked it in koha-conf.xml it uses the right password 11:54 jcamins Rakesh: in that case you messed something up while trying to do things with the virtual host. 11:54 Rakesh see what i just did is that 11:55 Rakesh in the httpd-conf file of the second install just changed the ports 11:55 Rakesh 81 an 8081 11:55 Rakesh and in apache ports.conf i entered listen 81 11:55 Rakesh and listen 8081 11:55 jcamins That should work. 11:55 Rakesh thats all and i entered virtualhost *:81 11:56 Rakesh ya but i am getting the problem 11:56 jcamins However, if you are now getting access denied, that means your username/password isn't right. 11:56 Rakesh but i checcked everywhere 11:56 Rakesh it is the same' 11:56 jcamins Check again. 11:56 jcamins We can't troubleshoot things magically. 11:57 marcelr jcamins: copying link address does not work; i installed ff 13.0.1 english; the problem persists ?! 11:57 marcelr yui thing ? 11:57 jcamins That's what I'm thinking. 11:57 jcamins Are you using YUI from Yahoo's servers? 11:58 marcelr pointing at yahoo, yes 11:58 jcamins I will set my computer to do the same and see what I see. 11:58 marcelr on a clean master + only 8203 11:59 marcelr commit 74f6e97396eb7368fb4e408bcf00ca9ff399c5a3 11:59 Rakesh according to u in which files should i check 11:59 jcamins Rakesh: I'm sorry, I have to go back to my work now. 12:00 jcamins Hm. The commit from when I just applied it to master from bz was aa7331... 12:00 Rakesh kk 12:00 Rakesh bii 12:01 * jcamins is trying it in IE. 12:01 drojf haha, you got IE 12:02 marcelr i see that i can move 3 commit forward 12:02 jcamins marcelr: it's yuipath. 12:02 jcamins Lemme see if I can troubleshoot this. 12:02 jcamins Good catch. 12:02 marcelr no wisdom involved :-) 12:02 jcamins drojf: yeah, I figure if anything is going to be curmudgeonly, it'll be IE. 12:05 jcamins Weird. There is no difference in the markup. 12:06 marcelr jcamins: note that the detail template works (via form get) 12:07 marcelr can you specify new blank target in the yui url ? 12:07 jcamins What do you mean? 12:07 jcamins Oh, I see. 12:07 jcamins I shall try. 12:25 jcamins This is really weird. 12:28 jcamins Ooh, fixed it! 12:30 marcelr ok what did you do? 12:30 marcelr new patch forthcoming? 12:30 jcamins Yeah, I'm doing a follow-up. 12:30 jcamins I'm putting a copyright statement for the MADS stylesheet. 12:30 marcelr ok 12:31 jcamins The problem was the "id" line. 12:31 jcamins Apparently that's only used for non-menu buttons in the newest version of YUI. 12:31 marcelr will take a look 12:32 jcamins gmcharlt: the server that fulfillment-ill.org is on ran out of disk space, hard. 12:32 marcelr id: savemenuc ? 12:32 jcamins That's the one. 12:34 marcelr this thing might be interesting to copy to dev list; when something with yui changes, also test both yuipaths too 12:34 * jcamins is just going to beg oleonard to change menubuttons to jQueryUI next. ;) 12:34 jcamins *was just 12:35 jcamins Attached follow-up. 12:35 jcamins Oops. 12:36 jcamins No I didn't. 12:36 * jcamins tries again. 12:36 marcelr yes, i see it 12:36 jcamins There we go. 12:37 jcamins When you're signing off on that, could you remove the link in the commit message? It's pointing to the wrong report. 12:37 marcelr i will do 12:37 marcelr just remove that link; who reads that? 12:38 jcamins No one, but it offends me to have the wrong link in a commit message. ;) 12:39 marcelr i deleted it 12:39 jcamins Thanks. :) 12:39 jcamins marcelr++ 12:40 marcelr ok, it works now for both yuipaths 12:41 jcamins Yay! 12:41 kf :) 12:41 kf good point about testing 12:41 kf we should start a wiki page for testing... maybe (wanted to do that for like forever...) 12:57 marcelr jcamins: bug 8206 ? 12:57 wahanui hmmm... bug 8206 is ready for cait's sign off. 12:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC 12:57 kf lol 12:57 kf didn't she sign off on that? 12:58 jcamins She did. 12:58 marcelr yes you did 12:58 jcamins marcelr: yes? 12:58 marcelr jcamins: are you sure about 1=Match ? 12:58 marcelr cannot find it in bib1.att 12:58 marcelr you know the old grs way.. 12:58 marcelr :-) 12:59 jcamins Hm. 12:59 marcelr Search authorities ERROR 114 12:59 marcelr no results of course 12:59 jcamins Good question. 13:00 jcamins I thought I added it for 7284. 13:00 * kf tested it with grs only 13:00 kf dom was not in then 13:00 marcelr i see 8804 13:00 marcelr match-heading 13:00 wahanui match-heading is missing? 13:00 marcelr he wahanui again> 13:00 marcelr ? 13:00 marcelr wahanui: what are you doing? 13:00 wahanui marcelr: wish i knew 13:01 marcelr ;) 13:01 marcelr kf: you could not have results with 1=Match ? 13:02 jcamins I will check into it. 13:02 jcamins Hm. 13:03 marcelr will put my note in the report 13:03 jcamins You are right... the version of bib1.att and record.abs in Master are not the ones that I carefully rewrote. 13:04 marcelr one day match will be matching 13:04 jcamins This is really weird. 13:05 marcelr another report of that jcamins on top of signed off queue 13:05 marcelr bug 8256 13:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Reports webservice should allow selection by name 13:05 * jcamins didn't want you to be bored. 13:05 marcelr signed by cait as well 13:06 marcelr you did not interfere the qa discussion 13:06 marcelr wouldn't you like to be qa er too? 13:06 kf marcelr: :( I am not sure how that happened - I did test. 13:07 marcelr last question was for jcamins 13:07 kf hm 13:07 marcelr kf: no problem 13:07 kf maybe my zebra fiels are different from recent testing of something else? 13:07 jcamins marcelr: I hardly have time to sign off on things! 13:07 kf I don't overwrite them often, I might have missed that 13:07 gaetan_B hmmm, i just noticed that in older versions (namely 3.0) overdues were grouped by borrower in overdue.pl, which made a lot of sense for libraries who use the 'email' links on this page to send overdue notices. Now they are sorted by return date, and you would end up sending one email per late document rather than per borrower. Was there a reason behind this change ? 13:07 marcelr i have some reports there too very small 13:08 kf gaetan_B: different kind of workflow maybe - couldn't it be sortable? 13:08 jcamins kf: I think because you tested before DOM? Somehow my Zebra config got reverted. 13:08 gaetan_B kf: the table is not sortable and i couldn't find a syspref for this 13:08 kf gaetan_B: and the mail links don't work so well - there is some untranslated text in the subjects and maybe a problem with diacritics 13:09 kf jcamins: that's a possibility 13:09 kf jcamins: I did def test before dom was pushed 13:09 gaetan_B i guess i'll tell them to export a csv and manage it this way 13:09 marcelr bugzilla is very slow 13:10 marcelr if it is even slow 13:11 jcamins marcelr: you don't see 8900? 13:11 jcamins In your bib1.att? 13:11 jcamins My record.abs was still reverted, but the bib1.att was not. 13:12 marcelr oops it is in master, but not in mine? 13:12 jcamins Yeah. 13:12 jcamins I mean, you won't get any results, but it shouldn't have given that error. 13:13 marcelr i am terribly sorry :-) 13:13 marcelr and bugzilla is too probably 13:13 marcelr no response yet 13:15 jcamins Okay, I unreverted my changes to record.abs for MARC21. 13:15 jcamins (by copying the changes back into the file) 13:16 jcamins My changes to UNIMARC remain. 13:16 marcelr another test note: get your zebra config back in line with master.. *sigh* 13:17 jcamins That too. :P 13:17 jcamins But I have a follow-up for you which will make it better. :) 13:17 marcelr nice thing of 8256 is: no yui, no zebra 13:17 jcamins I think what happened is that when I was signing off on bug 7818 I inadvertantly trampled my indexing changes. 13:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Signed Off , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records 13:18 jcamins (from 7284) 13:18 marcelr that was a big one 13:18 jcamins Yeah. And I guess I was a little too focused on making sure DOM worked. 13:20 kf so I am not guilty of bad testing? ;) 13:20 kf nah I am, because I didn't update my index files too 13:20 kf *sigh* 13:20 jcamins At the time they would have been up to date. 13:21 jcamins marcelr: follow-up attached to bug 8206. 13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC 13:21 kf marcel++ for testing patches! 13:21 kf caught 2 problems that would have caused problems 13:21 marcelr jcamins: svc/report is not a nice perl file 13:21 kf pretty cool :) 13:22 marcelr my selinux does not like such files 13:22 jcamins It doesn't? Hm. 13:22 marcelr he expects .pl at the end; i told him so 13:22 jcamins There are a bunch of files like that. 13:22 marcelr not that much 13:22 * jcamins didn't name the file, just edited it. 13:23 jcamins About a dozen. 13:23 marcelr could be, yeah; but since it changed, i have to relabel it 13:23 kf hm I think a pl ending is not recommended by some perl books? 13:23 kf wouldn't it be better to check for the first line of the script maybe? 13:23 marcelr have a patch for that waiting; but it must include that svc/report now too 13:24 jcamins svc/report is not a new file, so your patch may already have it. 13:24 marcelr no i mean opac/svc/report 13:24 marcelr sorry again 13:24 eythian there's no real need for a perl file to end in .pl, and there are good arguments why it shouldn't. 13:25 eythian especially when in a URL 13:25 marcelr but there are also good arguments why it should 13:25 eythian I haven't seen any :) 13:25 jcamins eythian: it works with SELinux. 13:25 marcelr that's why they found out the file extension stuff :-) 13:26 eythian jcamins: that sounds like a misconfiguration in selinux then, you're basing the filetype detection on a bit of information that's not actually related to the filetype. 13:26 marcelr eythian: about consistency, we have 1000s of perl scripts and 10 do not end with pl ? 13:27 eythian sure, that's an argument for it in Koha, but not in general. 13:27 jcamins eythian: that may be. I don't use selinux. 13:27 jcamins I guess I probably ought to. 13:27 jcamins I know it has something to do with security. 13:27 marcelr just an additional security layer to make your life easier or miserable .. just depends 13:27 eythian yeah, it makes it feasible to restrict what something can access to only things it has a reason to access 13:28 eythian I think apparmor on ubuntu does a similar thing 13:28 eythian (although SElinux possibly goes further, as it also fits in user-based restrictions) 13:28 marcelr but nevertheless i am using it 13:28 eythian presumably you should retrain it, can you tell it to go into "learn" mode? 13:29 marcelr jcamins: have to go, but will look at both patches soon 13:29 jcamins marcelr++ 13:29 marcelr i claimed them now.. 13:29 marcelr bye 13:34 * wizzyrea waves 13:34 * wizzyrea yawns 13:36 kf hi wizzyrea :) 13:38 kf paul_p++ # splitting circ improvements up into smaller pieces 13:45 kf hmm 13:45 kf can someone test something for me on current master? 13:45 kf oh 13:45 kf I think I found the problem, never mind! 13:58 kf question: is it a bug that the print view of lists only print the first page? 13:59 kf [off] https://mfo.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-shelves.pl?viewshelf=8&sortfield=title < example 14:01 nengard do i remember (i think kf said it) that for notices the predue and advanced notice have to have the codes they have to work? or can we use any code we want? 14:02 nengard kf ? yes i think that is a bug 14:02 nengard the lists thing ? finding it 14:03 nengard hmmm ? can't find the bug 14:07 kf nengard: they have to have their codes 14:07 kf nengard: afaik! 14:08 nengard so it looks at the branch and the code combo? 14:08 kf nengard: about the lists - did you mean it's already reported somewhere? 14:08 nengard I thought I remembered that bug but can't find the report 14:08 kf nengard: it shoudl do that - but at the moment you can't create the notice like that :( 14:08 kf I think I filed a bug for that 14:09 nengard I think I did the bug on that you commented 14:09 nengard I'm just checking so I can update the manual accordingly 14:09 kf lol 14:09 kf ok, let's sort this out - I am getting confused 14:09 kf notices 14:09 kf I think there is a bug or even 2 14:09 nengard but 7997 14:09 nengard Okay - notices there is a bug ? lists I thought there was, but there isn't 14:09 nengard bug 7997 14:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7997 major, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , can create a notice with the same code 14:10 nengard for notices 14:10 kf bug 8259 14:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8259 major, P2, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library for notices not saving correctly 14:11 kf ah 14:11 kf also: bug 3383 14:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3383 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Item due reminder digests - cannot display title information 14:11 kf oh sorry 14:11 kf I meant bug 8258 14:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8258 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Branch specific DUEDGST notice is not used 14:12 kf maybe all those things are connected to each other 14:12 kf I have to say I don't undertand my bug report totally right now :( 14:12 nengard kf linked them all together with the see also 14:12 nengard for now 14:13 kf good idea 14:57 francharb hi all 14:57 francharb could someone explain me why there are 2 links 'budgets" and 'funds' on the aquisition home page? 14:58 francharb There was only one link recently... 14:58 francharb but it came back as 2 links 14:58 francharb and it's bad... 14:59 francharb to go on the fund page, you need to select a budget first 14:59 francharb ... 14:59 francharb :( 15:00 francharb kf, have you noticed that? 15:00 francharb there were two links (budgets and funds), then, just one (budget & funds) and now, there are two links... 15:00 Rakesh hi guys 15:01 Rakesh please solve my mysql problem 15:01 Rakesh while opening the koha web installer 15:02 Rakesh it says access denied for the user using password (yes) 15:02 francharb Rakesh, could you tell us more? 15:03 francharb is it a fresh install? 15:03 kf francharb: sorry, no test installation in reach right now - haven't noticed yet but sounds like a bug? 15:03 kf Rakesh: you probably gave it the wrong mysql password 15:03 kf Rakesh: the login information in your koha-conf.xml file should match your configuration for myswl 15:04 francharb kf, I just asked at biblibre and apparently, it comes from us 15:04 francharb :( 15:04 kf francharb: the bug? 15:04 wahanui the bug is probably that if you scan the barcode on the circ page you aren't allowed to renew it that way 15:04 reiveune bye 15:04 francharb but yeah kf, it's not a good idea 15:04 kf perhaps bad merge? 15:04 francharb kf, I will investigate more 15:05 francharb but having "funds" as a link is a bad idea. It goes on one fund with no logic.. 15:05 francharb :( 15:05 Rakesh Access denied for user 'koha1'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/Context.pm line 758. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 31. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 31. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/instance1/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl 15:05 kf Rakesh: maybe this will help you: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Koha-web-installer-shows-software-error-td4497883.html 15:05 Rakesh this is the error 15:05 kf yes 15:06 kf wrong configuration 15:06 kf francharb: I think it's maybe because the meaning funds / budget got reversed 15:07 kf forget bug 15:07 wahanui kf: I forgot bug 15:07 francharb no kf 15:07 francharb http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8040 15:07 huginn 04Bug 8040: minor, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , a menu misnamed in budgets 15:07 francharb but I dont get it at all 15:07 kf let me check 15:07 francharb I will ask Stephane tomorrow where this come from 15:07 francharb It doesn't make sense 15:08 kf hmmm 15:08 kf yes 15:08 kf it doesn't 15:08 kf I think a budets and funds link was ok 15:08 kf but I think it's mostly just a misunderstanding 15:08 kf I woudl kill the funds link 15:09 kf and change it back to a link to show the budgets page, becasue you can navigate to the funds from there 15:09 wahanui kf: that doesn't look right 15:09 kf francharb: perhaps just revert the change? 15:10 francharb I will ask Stephane more about this and see what to do to go back to the "budgets & funds" link which was more logical 15:10 kf yes 15:11 kf I think funds would only make sense with a budget parameter 15:11 kf but where would we get this? 15:11 francharb thats right 15:11 francharb that's why, budgets & funds was better 15:11 francharb ;) 15:11 kf yep - I agree :) 15:11 francharb you choose your budget first 15:11 kf I think the change was meant well 15:11 kf but it's not so practical 15:11 francharb and see the related funds 15:11 francharb :) 15:12 * kf nods 15:12 francharb I go back on the acquisition module. I give a training next week 15:12 francharb I need to see the new stuffs 15:12 francharb :) 15:12 kf :) 15:13 kf francharb: would be cool to look at some of the devs together some tiem 15:13 kf we didn't figure out a testing plan at the hackfest :( 15:13 francharb I know ! :( 15:13 kf and with the new bugs paul filed today... lots of testing will be needed in circ 15:13 francharb :( 15:13 kf I still think it's probably too big for one person - we have to find a way to do that as a groups 15:14 francharb I agree kf 15:14 francharb I just need to find time to focus on that 15:14 kf yeah me too 15:14 kf I spent a day on http:recorder 15:14 francharb but lately, I had a LOT of work to do 15:14 kf but there was a problem with the session cookie - so I didn't get it working :( 15:14 kf wnted to record some test cases 15:14 kf same here 15:14 kf it's CRAZY. 15:15 francharb welcome to my world 15:15 francharb ;) 15:15 kf our world :) 15:16 francharb hopefully, I will have more time in 2 weeks and during august 15:16 francharb be sure that I will let you know 15:16 francharb when I will come up with a testing plan 15:16 francharb ;) 15:17 kf francharb: ok :) 15:18 kf I will let you know once I figured out the recording 15:20 Rakesh see 15:21 francharb ok kf 15:22 Rakesh i checked everywhere for the passwodd if it is incorrect' 15:23 Rakesh but it seems everything is right 15:23 Rakesh now plz help 15:23 Rakesh it says using the password yes 15:24 Rakesh but it gives error access denied 15:24 kf can you access the databaseon command line with the user and password you have in the koha configuration file? 15:24 kf mysql -u<youruser> -p<yourpassword> <yourdatabasename> 15:26 Rakesh see i have three users 15:26 Rakesh root works with pass 15:26 Rakesh koha works 15:26 Rakesh but koha1 gives error 15:26 Rakesh in mysql command line 15:26 Rakesh i entered mysql -u koha1 -p 15:27 Rakesh it asks password 15:27 kf yes 15:27 Rakesh i give 15:27 kf that's the better way to do it anyway 15:27 kf -p and then let it ask 15:27 Rakesh then it says access denied 15:27 kf thre is your problem then 15:27 kf if it doesn't work in mysql, it can't work in koha 15:27 Rakesh so how should i solve it? 15:28 Rakesh see i have a root 15:28 Rakesh and i have a koha alredy running 15:28 kf I think you have to repeat the step where you give the koha mysql user permissions to use the database 15:28 kf see the link I send you 15:28 kf before installing Koha you should have done something like this when creating the database :mysql> grant all on <kohadatabasename>.*mysql>\ 15:28 kf to'<kohadatabaseuser>'@'localhost' identified by\ 15:28 kf '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>'; 15:29 kf without the \ - that's from copying it out of the mailing list mail 15:29 kf sorry, I have to go back to work now 15:29 Rakesh i did it 15:30 Rakesh but still 15:35 Rakesh any1 else who can help 15:43 tajoli Hi, anyone working on bug  8251 (Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin) ? 15:44 gaetan_B bye ! 16:01 wizzyrea bug 8251 16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin 16:02 tajoli I want to test it but there are two patches 16:02 tajoli Do I need to use them together ? 16:12 drojf hi tajoli 16:13 tajoli hi 16:14 drojf as i understand it, you should use both, but i am not sure how to test since the followup patch changes days to day just everywhere it occurs as far as i understand. 16:15 tajoli I try to use both then I report 16:15 tajoli Bye 16:20 YeahKoha Question: We just upgraded to 3.02.05 from 2.2.9 the upgrade went reletively smoothly. However we cannot checkout any books to any patrons. Every patron comes up with "Cannot Check Out!" There is no red warning below the error. This happens on every Patron, even the Admin account. Any insights into what we missed? 16:21 YeahKoha None of the patrons are disbarred or lost card or validate address. 16:21 jcamins YeahKoha: most likely you need to configure your circulation rules. 16:21 jcamins YeahKoha: you know that 3.02.05 is incredibly old, right? 16:22 jcamins The current versions are 3.6.6 and 3.8.2. 16:22 YeahKoha We did that for each branch and a default rule too. 16:23 cait YeahKoha: I would strongly recommend updating to a more current version 16:23 cait and fix your problems there 16:23 cait it might be something in the dat 16:23 cait a 16:23 cait did you use the conversion scripts? 16:23 cait or did you export/import your data? 16:25 YeahKoha We used the 2.2 to 3.0 update scripts after importing the database to a test server. We still have our original intact. 16:25 jcamins You should think about upgrading the rest of the way, to 3.6.6 or 3.8.2 (I prefer 3.6.6). 16:26 jcamins No one here has used 3.2.5 in quite a while. 16:27 YeahKoha What is involved in the database update for 3.6? Do we have to update our database at several levels or is there just the 2.2 to 3? 16:28 cait YeahKoha: it's less complicated 16:28 cait there will be one script you have to run 16:28 cait all other things the web installer will handle for you 16:28 cait and the script is noted in the release notes - jcamins 3.4? 16:28 YeahKoha Do you have a recommended install guide for 2.2 to 3.6? 16:30 jcamins cait: remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl 16:30 YeahKoha or recommended distro? 16:30 jcamins YeahKoha: you already got to 3.2.5, so now you just install 3.6.6 over it. 16:30 YeahKoha I see. 16:30 jcamins It will automatically update, except for the remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl script, which you will have to run manually, once. 16:30 YeahKoha see if that fixes the issues with the DB 16:31 YeahKoha will do. Thanks! 16:33 YeahKoha Thank you for your help. Really appreciated this is driving me nuts. I hope we can figure it out. 16:34 cait if you are there 16:34 cait we will know our way around better too - and it will easier to help you :) 16:34 cait jcamins: was not sure about the version with the script in the release notes :) 16:35 jcamins cait: oh, yes, 3.4. 16:37 mib_nogxa0 Is it Serial Claim notice is generating in koha 16:54 Rakesh hello guys 16:54 Rakesh i have got a problem' 16:54 Rakesh i installed koha 16:54 Rakesh and it worked 16:54 Rakesh and i installed it on multiple instances 16:55 Rakesh when i try to run the web installer it says acces denied using password yes 16:55 Rakesh earlier i was able to access the root account 16:55 Rakesh but now it also says that access denied too 16:55 Rakesh plz help 16:55 jcamins vendors? 16:55 wahanui Koha Support Providers can be found at http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ 16:56 jcamins Rakesh: you may want to consider hiring someone to assist you in the setup. 16:56 Rakesh no 16:56 Rakesh :) 16:56 Rakesh pls tell how to repair the access denied error' 16:56 jcamins kf did tell you. 16:57 jcamins You have to set up a MySQL user properly. 16:57 jcamins No one is paid to answer questions on this channel, so if you need more attention than we can afford to give for free, you need to find someone you can pay to answer questions. 16:57 Rakesh really? 16:58 Rakesh can u tell me which files should i check 16:58 jcamins Really. 16:58 Rakesh cant bilieve 16:58 jcamins http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/ 16:58 Rakesh but tel 17:00 Rakesh what should i open in this 17:01 jcamins You should read through the manual so you understand how to use MySQL. 17:01 Rakesh ok thanks 17:15 drojf aaaand nigeria takes the lead 17:17 cait can't understand not more voting for US 17:17 drojf probably the holiday 17:17 jcamins cait: apathy. 17:17 jcamins That too. 17:17 jcamins And there are three venues. 17:17 jcamins So 1/3 of the votes go to any venue. 17:18 jcamins *only 1/3 17:18 drojf yes all us no.1 votes together would be first position now 17:19 jcamins Actually it's probably more fair this way. 17:19 drojf nengard: are you actually looking at all the names/ email addresses/ organisations of the voters? 17:20 nengard drojf I'm not looking at anything right now, but I do have that availability 17:21 nengard remember each place gets points based on it's ranking - so if it's voted #1 it gets 5 points, #2 4 points, and so on .. so even if it's not all #1 it could still be picked based on score 17:21 drojf ah ok. is that eplained somewhere? 17:21 cait yeah, which is why I voted wrong - should have left some empty 17:21 drojf explained even 17:21 cait on the wiki 17:21 wahanui hmmm... on the wiki is more information about the packages 17:21 nengard it was explained in 2011 ? not sure I put that on the 2013 one 17:21 nengard and I should 17:21 cait we should put it into the survey somewhere next time maybe 17:21 nengard I can update the survey description if you want 17:21 jcamins It was in an e-mail I think. 17:22 cait nengard: I think it might be good 17:22 nengard no prob 17:22 cait but not sur eit's fair in the middle 17:22 nengard I'll go add it - now a search question ? 17:22 cait undecided really 17:22 cait what do the others think? 17:22 nengard when I search for the word 'not' or a title with the word 'not' in it i have problems 17:22 nengard if it's just 'not' i get an error 17:22 nengard if it's a title with 'not' in it i don't find the title 17:22 cait uhoh 17:22 nengard now i thought zebra didn't use boolean phrases 17:22 jcamins cait: well, that's the way it was announced it was going to work. 17:22 cait sounds like koha is trying to be smar 17:22 drojf it's no change to the mechanism, just more clarification. i don't see why that should not be added now 17:22 cait t 17:22 nengard Error: Can't call method "sort" on an undefined value at /home/nengard/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 404. 17:23 cait I think not is maybe removed from your search 17:23 jcamins nengard: I think you probably know the solution to this: "don't use the word 'not' in searches." 17:23 cait and not not finding something because you tell it to not search for the word after not 17:23 cait could that be? 17:23 nengard jcamins - try and teach all patrons that ? now give me a better answer 17:23 cait rewrite Search.pm? 17:23 jcamins ^^ 17:23 jcamins Yeah, that's what it comes down to. 17:24 jcamins I was talking with a few people about possibly taking on that project. 17:24 * cait loves jcamins' projects 17:24 cait which reminds me I have some testing to do :) 17:24 cait after dinner 17:24 jcamins Sort of a question of whether enough librarians _really_ care about it. 17:24 cait I think we have to come up with some changes for the solr/zebra integration? 17:24 SJeffery Are you supposed to not rank locatios that you absolutely would not be able to attend, or rank them anyway? 17:24 jcamins After my e-mail, some people popped up and said "oh, yeah, we care, we didn't realize it could be fixed." 17:25 nengard survey description updated 17:25 cait SJeffery: I think that would make sense 17:25 cait jcamins: which mail? 17:25 wahanui which mail are we talking about? 17:25 cait hehe 17:26 nengard SJeffery, I didn't explain it well this year and that's my fault - if you can't attend a place you shouldn't vote for it at all .. if we need to start the voting again now that that's clear I can do that ?.. 17:27 jcamins SJeffery: I ranked them at the bottom. I guess I should've left it blank, maybe. I don't know. 17:27 jcamins cait: someone asked about searching, I explained that there was a big problem, which I'd love to tackle, but it was too big for a hobby-type project. 17:27 cait ah :) 17:28 cait very cool! 17:28 nengard jcamins that's why i'm wondering if i should redo the survey ?. cause i wasn't clear - totally my fault 17:28 nengard i'll leave it to the community to decide 17:28 nengard but the points is how we did it other years 17:28 jcamins I'm not sure. Maybe sound out an e-mail asking? 17:29 jcamins Oh, I knew it was by points, I just didn't think about whether I should be voting for places I couldn't possibly go or not. 17:29 cait I think restarting now might cause more trouble 17:29 cait and anyone could have asked 17:29 cait including me 17:30 cait so with the new note we shoud let it run I guess 17:30 jcamins That makes sense. 17:31 SJeffery I have now voted, hopefully Reno wins! 17:31 cait reno! 17:32 nengard email sent to the list- please reply with your opinions 17:40 jcamins nengard: in all seriousness about the search problem, it's a small symptom of a really big problem which can't really be solved with anything less than a rewrite. 17:40 nengard okey dokey 17:56 mustard There are two Evergreen positions open in MO. Suppose I'd get spanked if I sent a link to the Koha list? 18:00 cait MO? 18:00 jcamins The home state of Shoeless Joe! 18:00 jcamins Missouri. 18:00 wahanui somebody said missouri was forming a consortium. 18:00 jcamins mustard: I think I've seen ads for Evergreen folks on the Koha list before. 18:06 nengard okay ? so ? at some point i pushed the 3.10 manual to the 3.8 branch ? can anyone tell me how to find out where i screwed up? 18:07 nengard found it 18:07 nengard it might not be the entire 3.10 manual 18:07 nengard is 'IssueLostItem' a preference in 3.8? 18:07 nengard nope ? hmm 18:10 cait nengard: not sure, maybe check bugzilla? 18:10 drojf i'll look 18:11 drojf we don't have that in our 3.8 18:14 nengard yeah it's not there 18:14 nengard so i found the commit 18:41 rangi cait++ 18:42 rangi im glad im not the only, "wait ... what?" to the restart idea 18:43 cait no, you are not :) 18:43 jcamins Very weird in a salad. 18:43 jcamins And it's still boring. 18:44 jcamins (caraway seeds are very weird in a salad, that is) 18:45 cait heh, wrong window? :) 18:45 jcamins Yup. 18:46 cait :) 18:52 rangi caraway seeds are wrong 18:52 rangi wrong i tells ya 18:55 jcamins What is this? 18:55 jcamins The international "I hate caraway" community? 18:55 cait rangi: I hate them too hehe 18:55 cait which I told jcamins in the other window 18:56 drojf stop caraway hate! 18:56 rangi 293 votes .. i dont think we can throw them all away now 18:56 drojf not after i actually calculated all the 5x, 4x, 3x etc 18:58 nengard i guess if someone feels strongly I can edit their vote on the db level ? not that I want to really open that can of worms 18:58 nengard I feel bad cause I didn't explain 18:58 nengard and only those who were involved in other years realized 18:59 nengard so if I have to do something to make people feel it's fair I'll do it 18:59 cait I think we all could have noted that earlier 18:59 cait I think people from the channel were early voters 18:59 rangi fwiw reno is winning now 18:59 cait I think it fairer to keep it the way it is 18:59 rangi if that makes me not want to change it 18:59 cait ? 19:00 jcamins cait: "you"? 19:00 cait me? 19:00 wahanui That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) or a librarian, you will get wahanui's information or a hero or signing off on wahanui's patch :) 19:00 rangi sorry if that makes people not want to change it 19:00 * cait is confused now 19:00 nengard me too :) 19:00 nengard hehe 19:01 wizzyrea i say don't change it - if someone complains you can nuke their vote and put in a new one on their behalf 19:01 wizzyrea or don't restart it 19:01 wizzyrea or you can nuke their existing vote (if they put their name on it) and give that person a do-over 19:02 jcamins That makes sense to me. 19:02 wizzyrea like, I might go for that 19:02 jcamins If they didn't put their real name on it, it was kind of fraud anyway. 19:02 * wizzyrea did it wrong 19:02 wizzyrea (and I did it last year too!) 19:02 cait wizzyrea: same for me, but I am keeping my vote 19:03 wizzyrea well there are some places that are highly unlikely that I'd get to go to 19:05 rangi 295 now 19:05 francharb If I way, we should'nt pay so much attention to the voters but more on the hosts.. 19:05 francharb s/if i way/if i may 19:05 rangi what he said 19:06 francharb in the end, it's like a random vote 19:06 rangi but we also cant change that now 19:06 rangi issues with the hosts, should come up before the voting starts 19:07 jcamins What's the problem with the host? 19:07 cait hey eythian 19:07 francharb jcamins, it's not a "problem" 19:07 rangi i dont think there is any, but just an example 19:07 rangi but i think thats what the 3 months or so before the voting are for 19:07 jcamins I'm still able to access it. 19:07 francharb it's more like saying 'good for you, everybody want to go' 19:08 jcamins Wait, host as in "institution where KohaCon2013 might be held"? 19:08 francharb but in the end "well, you have been picked randomly" 19:08 jcamins Never mind. 19:08 * jcamins got confused. 19:08 francharb jcamins, yes 19:08 jcamins I thought you meant there was a problem with the server the survey was on. 19:08 francharb ahah 19:08 francharb nope 19:08 cait ok 19:09 cait I am still confused :) 19:09 cait am I the only one? 19:09 rangi random vote? 19:09 rangi that bit is confusing me 19:09 francharb but nengard seems to feel bad about the voters. but i just wanted to say that it's not a big deal 19:09 rangi :) 19:09 francharb and i would feel more bad for the host 19:09 francharb because we cant say 19:09 rangi ahh yes 19:09 rangi i agree 19:09 francharb "hey, everyboday want to go" 19:09 francharb but only 19:10 francharb "hey guys, you've been picked randomly" 19:10 francharb so I would say, let's ask the hosts how they feel about it 19:11 francharb "randomly" in the way, that people didn't know how the voting worked... 19:12 francharb did I make myself clear? 19:12 francharb :) 19:12 rangi yep 19:13 francharb :) 19:13 rangi i just think restarting now, makes more mess 19:13 francharb anyway, if not, just forget it ;) 19:13 * jcamins doesn't care. 19:13 francharb jcamins++ 19:13 francharb :) 19:13 jcamins :) 19:14 rangi to me, it would look like on no, argentian is winning, we better change the vote 19:14 rangi on no = oh no 19:14 rangi and i didnt even vote for them :) 19:14 francharb :) 19:15 francharb weird 19:15 rangi wherever it is, it will be great 19:15 francharb madonna just poped up in my mind 19:15 francharb :) 19:15 francharb rangi++ 19:16 cait rangi++ 19:17 * libsysguy just wants to go for once 19:17 francharb libsysguy, where are you from? 19:17 libsysguy I want to go to hackfest actually 19:17 libsysguy Texas 19:18 rangi wasnt someone organising a US user group thingy this year? or did that fall through? 19:18 rangi lenora .. iirc 19:18 libsysguy i haven't heard anything out of it 19:20 jcamins She was waiting on the fiscal year, I think. 19:21 rangi cya 19:21 francharb 0/ 19:22 rangi (that was an ironic cya :) im not actually leaving) 19:22 francharb :| 19:22 francharb :) 19:22 francharb :D 19:22 rangi what other emails can i be grumpy at I wonder 19:22 cait francharb: smile :) 19:22 francharb If you look at it fast, it will get animated 19:22 francharb ;) 19:22 cait hehe 19:22 cait I did 19:22 drojf rangi: you could give your address to rakesh 19:22 cait francharb: my scrolling is broken again 19:22 wahanui i already had it that way, cait. 19:23 cait brb 19:23 jcamins Hehe. 19:23 francharb her scrolling? 19:23 drojf how does scrolling break? 19:23 francharb cait, your scrolling? 19:23 cait my window stopped scrolling down automatically 19:23 cait very annoying 19:23 rangi drojf-- # that idea is horrible!!!! 19:23 cait huh? 19:23 cait what did I miss? 19:23 drojf lol 19:23 drojf you wanted to be grumpy 19:23 rangi 07:21 < drojf> rangi: you could give your address to rakesh 19:24 jcamins drojf++ # for helping 19:24 rangi drojf++ # the mail to the list was great though 19:24 * jcamins runs around shouting "I'm helping!!!" 19:24 drojf :D 19:24 francharb cait, unity scrolling is bad 19:24 francharb I removed it 19:24 jcamins I found a WM that I was pretty happy with. 19:24 cait not sure unitiy is to blame for problems in pidgin? 19:24 jcamins I've forgotten which one. 19:24 jcamins It was not fvwm. 19:24 jcamins cait: yup, probably. 19:25 drojf my pidgin scrolls nicely 19:25 rangi i removed unity (well never installed it to be fair) 19:25 francharb cait, the way the scrolling bar is diplayed 19:25 cait ah 19:25 cait hm maybe 19:25 cait I am trying out debian at work now 19:25 rangi "I am hungry" says ataraua 19:25 cait in my koha vm 19:25 rangi atarau too 19:25 cait you should feed him :) 19:25 rangi brb 19:25 francharb once I updated my ubuntu, I will go back to gnome 19:26 francharb I'm reading me and all I can think is that I need a break 19:27 francharb I forgot "of" somewhere 19:27 francharb will you be able to replace it? 19:27 francharb ;) 19:27 francharb see ya 19:28 drojf i like how 3% did not vote for rank 1 in the survey 19:28 drojf or i'm misinterpreting the statistics 19:29 francharb_afk "we dont want any leader!" 19:29 francharb_afk "we wont vote for number 1" 19:29 francharb_afk ;) 19:30 cait lol 19:30 cait go and take your break! 19:30 drojf lol 19:35 rangi nope, you arent misinterpreting :) 19:35 rangi w 19:35 rangi ahhh 19:35 rangi "we're number 2 we're number 2" 19:40 rangi jcamins and wizzyrea: wanna guess what laurel found in the shop and atarau is eating? 19:40 cait hope it's not caraway 19:41 wizzyrea ummmmmmm fennel? 19:41 drojf lol 19:41 wizzyrea :D 19:41 wizzyrea fudge? 19:41 wahanui rumour has it fudge is the ambrosia of koha 19:41 drojf hahahaha 19:42 jcamins Peanut butter? 19:42 rangi hehe no cait at all the fudge 19:42 cait haka cereal? 19:42 rangi shreddies 19:42 cait rangi: :P 19:42 jcamins Gnocchi? 19:42 wahanui i heard Gnocchi was http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/sweet-potato-gnocchi/Detail.aspx 19:42 wizzyrea :D 19:43 rangi wow i cant type this morning 19:43 cait what are shreddies? 19:43 rangi some american cereal 19:43 jcamins Never heard of it. 19:43 drojf Shreddies Damen Brief €29.90. Bequeme, modische Unterwäsche, die dazu noch mit einem integrierten Aktivkohlefilter unangenehme Gerüche beseitigt - ideal für Menschen mit Magen- und Darmerkrankungen und chronischer Flatulenz. 19:43 francharb_afk http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/post_shreddies.jpg 19:43 drojf only funny for those that speak german 19:43 drojf or use google translate 19:43 rangi francharb_afk is addicted to #koha ! 19:43 cait drojf: eeew 19:43 rangi :) 19:43 francharb_afk rangi, looks like it 19:43 cait rangi: he is missing us, can you blame him? 19:43 francharb_afk ;) 19:44 wizzyrea ! like Chex! 19:44 * wizzyrea loves wheat chex. 19:44 francharb_afk chex? 19:44 * cait likes wheatabix 19:44 cait does that count? 19:44 francharb_afk cait, really? 19:44 cait yeah? 19:45 wizzyrea http://www.foodandfunfromhome.com/images/P/146-846-B.gif 19:46 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 19:46 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 22.5°C (9:42 PM CEST on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 19:46 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:46 drojf weeeee 19:46 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.2°C (9:40 PM CEST on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 19:46 cait weeee :) 19:46 francharb_afk when I was youngerand I tested wheatabix, they were the most boring cereals I ever had... 19:46 francharb_afk :) 19:46 cait francharb_afk: heh 19:46 francharb_afk I should try again 19:46 cait true 19:46 rangi they still are 19:46 jcamins I tried wheetabix recently. 19:46 francharb_afk ahah 19:46 jcamins Shari thought they must be better once you get older. 19:46 jcamins Nope. 19:46 rangi but good with fruit 19:47 rangi you just cant eat them plain 19:47 francharb_afk jcamins, LOL 19:47 rangi here they are called weetbix 19:47 rangi kahu loves them 19:48 francharb_afk yeah, rangi, fruits and some wheatabix crumbs to make them crunchy 19:48 francharb_afk but not to much 19:48 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyxJaeoY0-k 19:48 francharb_afk ;) 19:48 rangi nz 1990's 19:48 rangi we were cheesy as hell 19:49 francharb_afk :) 19:49 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_NXDv567Ac&feature=related <-- these are better 19:49 cait kiwi kids... 19:51 cait now I got that in my head 19:51 drojf haha me too 19:51 drojf kiwi kids, wheat somethingsomething. must. eat. weird. cereal. 19:51 cait lol 19:51 cait exactly! 19:52 drojf wow, impressively thundery, my thunderstorm 19:52 cait oooh 19:52 cait mine is already over 19:52 * cait is jealous 19:52 drojf :) 19:55 rangi the barbeque one is my fave 19:56 mustard rangi: did the earthquake a couple of days ago rattle your windows? 19:56 rangi not really, sounded like a train tho 19:58 * wizzyrea wants an impressively thundery thunderstorm 19:58 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks 19:58 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 38.1°C (2:57 PM CDT on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Friday... 19:58 * wizzyrea sighs 20:00 drojf you should definitely have some thunderstorm 20:01 cait drojf: not sur eit's a good idea in kansas 20:01 cait drojf: in the end another poor witch ends up under a house! 20:01 cait and children get lost on yellow brick roads 20:02 francharb_afk and I'm the one who needs a break? 20:02 francharb_afk ;) 20:02 drojf lol 20:02 * wizzyrea giggles 20:02 cait hey! 20:03 cait it#s a classi 20:03 cait c 20:03 wizzyrea those are *tornadoes* 20:03 cait ohok 20:03 francharb_afk :) 20:03 wizzyrea bit out of season for those, especially this year 20:03 cait you can have a thunderstorm then 20:03 wizzyrea maybe saturday/sunday 20:03 wizzyrea first time in 3 weeks we've had even the slightest chance of rain in the forecast 20:03 mustard @wunder 64506 20:03 huginn mustard: The current temperature in APRSWXNET St.Joseph MO US, Saint Joseph, Missouri is 35.6°C (2:34 PM CDT on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Saturday... 20:03 wizzyrea nicer where you are 20:03 francharb_afk @wunder lyon, france 20:04 huginn francharb_afk: The current temperature in Lyon, France is 20.0°C (9:30 PM CEST on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). 20:04 mustard well, only slightly relatively :) 20:04 wizzyrea very nice in france :) 20:04 francharb_afk already the autumn in july... 20:04 wizzyrea hm, you have more humidity than us - it probably actually feels hotter there 20:05 wizzyrea yea I suspect we are going to have an early fall, we had a super early sprint 20:05 wizzyrea spring* 20:05 francharb_afk when they say humidity 73%, they mean that it's raining almost all the time 20:05 francharb_afk ;) 20:06 wizzyrea oh I meant in st joseph :) it's about 1.5 hours drive away from here 20:06 francharb_afk ahah 20:06 francharb_afk :) 20:08 * francharb_afk is listenning to rihanna 20:08 francharb_afk "'m Flying out to Pisa, just to get some pizza" 20:08 francharb_afk it's pure genius 20:08 francharb_afk ;) 20:08 mustard This French item will make everyone feel cooler. http://www.perrier.com/thedrop/en.html 20:08 francharb_afk \0/ 20:11 nengard @wunder 19030 20:11 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Highland Park, Levittown, Pennsylvania is 38.3°C (4:09 PM EDT on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM EDT Saturday... 20:11 nengard :( 20:11 mustard I usually have a couple of bottles in the refrigerator, but it looks like I'm out. May have to run down to the store on my break. 20:11 francharb_afk 38.3°C? 20:11 francharb_afk really? 20:11 francharb_afk 0_0 20:12 mustard It's been over 100°F for the past week here (I'm only 40km away from wizzyrea) 20:12 rangi @wunder nzwn 20:13 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on July 06, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 20:16 * rangi decides to go into work for a bit today, while the kids go to their grandparents, to catch up on some work 20:17 rangi bbl 20:38 Brooke o/ 20:39 drojf hi Brooke 20:39 Brooke :) 20:40 jcamins Greetings. 21:01 wajasu hi 21:01 wahanui hello, wajasu 21:02 francharb_afk see ya 21:03 wajasu i'm going to try to do a patch today. my people want to see diacritics in the label printer for pdf output. 21:03 * jcamins hands wajasu the elephant gun. 21:07 * wajasu kicks off building my virgin VM dev environment 21:08 * wajasu whilst simultaneously heads off to write a bug 21:09 jcamins wajasu: there's already a bug report for the diacritics in labels. 21:10 mtj hmm, it's a very tricky unicode to pdf translation problem 21:10 jcamins Very, very tricky. 21:11 mtj i think its almost impossiible, currently :/ 21:11 wajasu i have had a fix for over a year. i just need to probe it. 21:11 wajasu prove it. 21:11 * wizzyrea gets the popcorn 21:11 mtj gotcha, very impressive! 21:11 wajasu its a romance 21:11 mtj oooh, i love romances! 21:12 wajasu i mean slasher 21:14 mtj wajasu: i'm quite curious to see how you did it 21:18 Guest2215 Brooke 21:18 Guest2215 you have stolen my name. 21:18 Brooke ha ha :P 21:18 Guest2215 no really 21:18 * jcamins wonders if Brooke is having a conversation with herself. 21:18 Brooke have you considered an _ 21:18 Guest2215 I despise _ 21:18 Guest2215 I would rather be Guest2215 21:19 * jcamins is pretty sure that Brooke is Brooke. 21:19 Guest2215 is Brooke registered with nickserv? 21:19 Brooke yep 21:19 Brooke for like months now 21:19 Guest2215 I ask because my nick registration on this server appeared to expire, when I went mia for a couple years 21:20 Guest2215 and I got back and someone else had it :( 21:20 jcamins Brooke != Guest2215? 21:20 Guest2215 and now I have found you. 21:20 Guest2215 you, the villain who registered my name 21:20 Brooke We can settle this with sabres if you'd like :) 21:21 Brooke 3 bouts of 15 best of 3 wins the nick? 21:21 Guest2215 I don't even own 15 sabres! 21:21 Guest2215 much less 45! 21:22 * wizzyrea refills the popcorn 21:22 * wizzyrea munches 21:23 * jcamins has been assured that there are in fact two different people in that conversation. 21:23 * ibeardslee readies the bandaids 21:25 Guest2215 ooh, library software 21:25 Brooke a yep 21:25 Guest2215 no wonder you guys are cool 21:25 jcamins Brooke is the only one of us who generally walks around with a sword. 21:25 jcamins I think. 21:25 Brooke thought Ian did on occasion as well 21:26 * wajasu kohacloning 21:27 * wizzyrea routinely walks around with light sabers, does that count?/ 21:27 * drojf begins to wonder whether we have to redo all the kohacons because nobody ever knew how the voting works 21:27 Brooke that does count wizzy 21:28 jcamins drojf: yes! 21:28 jcamins One per month for the next decade! :D 21:28 Guest2215 well as I don't have a sabre 21:28 Guest2215 and Brooke is legit 21:28 Guest2215 I guess I just have to find myself another name 21:29 Guest2215 for now. *glare* 21:29 jcamins Wait, chris_n wanted the nick Brooke? 21:29 Guest2215 yes 21:29 Guest2215 no? 21:29 wahanui no is failing unit tests 21:29 * jcamins realizes that the last two digits are different. Never mind. 21:30 Brooke you can use 00s for the os 21:30 Guest2215 this may not be the last you see of me! 21:30 jcamins I should stop reading three things simultaneously. I keep on missing key pieces of information. 21:32 rangi back 21:33 Brooke wb 21:38 mustard I wanna be at the booootom of the list 21:53 rangi http://soundcloud.com/themagician/peter-the-magician-memory 21:55 sekjal_mobile hi, #koha. been away a couple days. what's up with the KohaCon 13 vote? 21:56 jcamins sekjal_mobile: some people are unhappy, some people are happy, and some people don't care. 21:56 rangi i think the consensus has been that since some people didnt understand how it worked, they are being allowed to recast their vote 21:56 * jcamins falls into the final category. 21:57 * wizzyrea bops about 21:57 sekjal_mobile ah... polls are still open, right? 21:57 rangi i dont think anyone is happy, i just dont want to shit all over the nigerians who have a few hours of internet a day to appease 1stworldproblems 21:57 rangi yes until the 17th 21:58 sekjal_mobile great. all the kefuffle on list had me thinking it was already tallied 22:03 sekjal_mobile ok, back to the highway. back on normal schedule tomorrow. 22:04 Brooke I'm mostly happy with it. I'd be unhappy if folks indicated that they wanted to vote for summat and couldn't. Most of the complaints I've seen have been we've overvoted, not under. 22:05 Brooke it's not like overvoting can really hurt a preference election, anyway. 22:09 wajasu should i branch off master, or a specific version? for a patch 22:09 jcamins wajasu: master. Always. 22:10 wajasu ok 22:10 rangi yep, unless it jcamins or I have said something like 22:11 rangi 'this patch in master wont apply to 3.8.x, can you please send one for 3.8.x' 22:11 jcamins Right. 22:11 rangi we do that occassionally on a bug report in bugzilla 22:11 jcamins In that case you should follow the instructions. :) 22:11 wajasu ok. 22:11 rangi that is quite rare though 22:16 wajasu i'm getting my koha-dev environment set up, then will confirm bug exists, write bug report, branch bugXXXX, make fix, confirm fix, gen patch, email patch to list, attach patch to bug report, label bug "NEEDS SIGNOFF" 22:16 jcamins Right. 22:17 rangi perfect! 22:17 rangi it will be your first patch eh? 22:19 wajasu 2nd. the last time i tried, it wasn't taken. but that was over a year ago. 22:19 rangi ahh 22:19 rangi is it still there? 22:19 rangi i mean was it a did not apply problem or .. failed qa one? 22:20 wajasu now i have a virgin environment, and can be sure it is like what you see. 22:20 rangi perfect 22:20 rangi you can be number 187 22:21 drojf hm. something's missing 22:21 drojf someone 22:21 rangi ? 22:24 drojf nevermind, it is not his time yet 22:25 wajasu i'm just going to grab a record from the LOC z3950 server with a diacritic, and document that in the bug, so a fresh install should be sufficient. 22:26 jcamins wajasu: if you make it support Unicode (like, really), I'm sure I could be persuaded to test it with a non-Latin character set. 22:27 wajasu Template:Plugin:HtmlToText is new 22:27 jcamins Yes. 22:27 jcamins Also Text::Unaccent. 22:32 wajasu Hmm. what is the htmltotext deb package called. i got the unaccent one. 22:33 rangi libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl ? 22:34 wajasu ok 22:34 jcamins It's in the k-c repo, not Debian standard. 22:36 wajasu that worked. i have the k-c in my vm :) 22:36 * wajasu webinstaller finished 22:37 * wajasu now confiming bug 22:46 rangi sweet 22:54 wajasu ok grabbed LOC record and exported PDF label and see: 22:54 wajasu 1150Jahre Marköbel, 850 Jahre Baiersröderhof 22:54 wajasu 3886542378 22:54 wajasu Books 22:54 wajasu 943/.416 22:54 wahanui 2266.82692307692 22:55 * wajasu now writing bug. 22:55 * wajasu so i can hava bugXXXX number to branch with 22:55 rangi mtj++ 22:56 jcamins Yay! 22:56 rangi wajasu++ 23:01 rangi liw++ 23:01 rangi koha-upgrade-schema rules! 23:20 wajasu is there a goog way to determine the build date for my git clone, or just reference koha-common 3.8.1 or such? 23:20 wajasu for the bug report 23:20 rangi hmm? 23:20 jcamins It doesn't matter. 23:20 jcamins You should always keep your clone up to date. 23:20 jcamins (for development) 23:21 jcamins And as for the version in the bug report, you just mark it master. 23:21 wajasu yes but when someone read the bug a few months later, how will they know what version/hash i saw the bug? 23:21 jcamins It'll have the date. 23:21 wajasu ok 23:22 mtj wajasu: i try to paste the commit hash, with my bug-report 23:27 mtj oops, i mean - i try to include the commit hash that my patch was created from 23:27 wajasu ok will do 23:28 wajasu should it be critical? or major? or blocker. 23:29 mtj prolly just 'normal' or 'trivial' ? 23:30 wajasu i'll put normal, someone else can change it. 23:30 rangi hmm so 23:30 rangi if i have 23:31 wajasu its realted to bug2246, should i add it to the cc list? 23:31 rangi <span class="results_summary"><span class="label">Type: </span><img src="/opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam/silk/book.png" alt="book" title="book" class="materialtype"/> Book </span> 23:31 rangi wajasu: yes please 23:32 rangi if i have that html .. how do i hide it with jquery or css ? 23:32 rangi my brain is not working 23:33 jcamins Ummm... 23:33 jcamins jQuery. 23:34 mtj $(. results_summary).hide() 23:34 rangi ahh i forgot to mention there are lots of results_summary 23:34 mtj but then add a 'child' selector too :/ 23:34 rangi ah right ta 23:35 * rangi takes a crack 23:36 * wajasu Bug8375 is what I'm working on 23:39 mtj $(.results_summary .label).hide() 23:39 jcamins $('.materialtype').parent().hide(); 23:39 rangi ohh 23:39 rangi jquery wars! 23:39 * jcamins thought the question was "which?" 23:40 mtj all results_summary elements, with a child element of a 'label' class? 23:40 jcamins mtj: every single piece of information on the page has the class results_summary. 23:40 rangi jcamins: that works perfectly! 23:40 jcamins You can't use results_summary or label, or the solution would be CSS. :) 23:40 jcamins We really ought to fix that. 23:40 rangi yeah too many of them 23:40 rangi *nod* 23:42 mtj ah, yep - i was waaay off :/ trying to hide the 'results_summary' elements 23:47 wajasu i need the CHI, CHI:Driver:Memcached, DateTime:TimeZone deb package names. adding -perl didn't help 23:47 jcamins wajasu: they're not all available from debian.k-c.org. 23:47 jcamins The CHI ones are completely optional, though. 23:47 jcamins DateTime::TimeZone should be libdatetime-timezone-perl. 23:48 wajasu ok. thx.