Time Nick Message
21:02 mbalmer yes, rewrite Koha in <insert your favourite language here>
21:00 wahanui jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins
21:00 libsysguy jcamins?
21:00 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE
21:00 libsysguy wizzyrea?
20:59 libsysguy ^^ heh
20:59 wahanui i heard libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
20:59 libsysguy libsysguy?
20:02 cait anitsirk++
20:01 wizzyrea yes very brave jeez :)
20:01 wizzyrea it's cute :)
20:00 wizzyrea i like her combo kiwi/german accent
20:00 rangi she's been here a while :)
20:00 rangi hehe, 'ok, no worries'
20:00 cait she continued
20:00 cait brave girl
19:59 wizzyrea oh my poor girl
19:57 rangi at about 4.40
19:53 rangi so you can hear what it was like
19:53 rangi http://virtualbreath.net/curious/2012/07/04/mahara-presentation-with-a-dash-of-earthquake/
19:52 rangi kristina was presenting remotely during it
19:51 wizzyrea yea, wow that's a big one
19:51 rangi no real damage anywhere so that's good
19:51 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7215025/Deep-7-0-earthquake-hits-New-Zealand
19:51 rangi hehe
19:50 wizzyrea i…. i guess.
19:50 rangi its what she does, that endears her to the public so
19:49 wizzyrea :P
19:49 * wizzyrea was quite fond of cheesymite.
19:49 wizzyrea oh and naturally hillary clinton says something dumb and snarky about it.
19:49 jcamins wizzyrea: just so long as they don't dodge the marmite tax!
19:47 wizzyrea ooh tax dodgers!
19:39 rangi http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/9154576/Outcry-in-New-Zealand-over-Marmageddon-crisis-as-Marmite-stocks-run-out.html
19:39 rangi which is a very cynical and clever marketing campaign
19:39 rangi oh and also marmitegeddon
19:37 rangi are owned by 7th day adventists and dodge taxes
19:36 rangi is that sanitarium, (who make things like weetbix and marmite)
19:36 rangi our biggest cereal controversy here
19:35 rangi its a nice little feedback loop
19:35 wizzyrea i know right
19:35 rangi wizzyrea: sugar cereal then ritalin for the adhd
19:34 rangi hehe
19:33 jcamins rangi: Myshkin was a little scared by Atarau at first, but decided he approves.
19:33 wizzyrea (that is, greater in sugar)
19:33 wizzyrea but it's still a lot of sugar.
19:33 wizzyrea froot loops > shredded wheat fruit in the middle > fruity cheerios
19:33 jcamins Honey nut cheerios are about as healthy as candy.
19:32 wizzyrea cheerios makes "fruity cheerios" now
19:32 * jcamins doesn't even have processed foods much and manages that. ;)
19:32 wizzyrea terrifying.
19:32 wizzyrea to think, that's how we (some of us) live all the time. High on sugar.
19:32 rangi (that video was on sunday)
19:31 wizzyrea hehe
19:31 rangi i spend most of my visits to the USA high on sugar
19:31 jcamins Aww.
19:31 wizzyrea hahahahahah he's so tough
19:31 rangi curse my compulsion to try new things
19:30 rangi oh yeah american cereal is a trip
19:30 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoUkCjdb1jc&feature=g-upl
19:30 jcamins (but it's better now than it was three years ago)
19:30 wizzyrea viva la netflix.
19:30 * wizzyrea noticed that after the spud visits his gran with her satellite television, that he suddenly wants all kinds of crazy toys and questionable food items.
19:30 * jcamins will summarize: you're going to kill your kids if you let them eat cereal that is marketed for kids.
19:29 rangi as long as I say, this is what kapa haka groups eat
19:29 rangi atarau eats anything
19:29 rangi oh yeah?
19:28 * jcamins just read a report about cereal advertising to children.
19:27 rangi 's eating honeypuffs i have about 10 mins
19:27 rangi he
19:27 rangi back
19:12 * cait waves back
19:12 * rangi waves good morning and goes to make breakfast for atarau
18:37 libsysguy and failing hard
18:37 libsysguy like im trying to do now
18:37 libsysguy ^^
18:37 eythian in the sense that it's hard to extend
18:37 jcamins Any unit tests you'd like to write would be much appreciated.
18:37 eythian it's kinda broken
18:37 jcamins Right.
18:37 libsysguy i guess it goes back to "if it isn't broken don't fix it"
18:36 libsysguy *smh*
18:36 jcamins It really is.
18:35 libsysguy auth kind of looks like a dinosaur
18:34 libsysguy then basically a set of flags
18:34 libsysguy to force one or the other
18:34 libsysguy it passes opac/intranet
18:34 * jcamins has never really looked at the code.
18:33 jcamins Does it do some sort of bind?
18:33 libsysguy well this is also interesting the way get_template_and_user is set up
18:33 libsysguy oh ok
18:32 jcamins I was going back to the permissions.
18:32 jcamins Oh, the referer thing is definitely an issue.
18:31 libsysguy but you are still basically programming in a hole right?
18:31 libsysguy hmm
18:30 jcamins There's a syspref that controls it.
18:30 jcamins libsysguy: wait, you know that the user doing SCO != user to whom books are being checked out, right?
18:30 jcamins Wouldn't it be better to confirm that the specified patron did the self checkout?
18:30 * libsysguy scratches head
18:30 libsysguy true
18:29 jcamins You can still spoof referer headers.
18:28 libsysguy maybe i can just check to see if i came from an sco url
18:27 jcamins Yeah, that would be a problem.
18:27 libsysguy but im not sure how to get around with the way printing is set up
18:27 libsysguy which is obviously a problem
18:26 libsysguy if someone types in a borrowernumber then they can get a print out of all the checkouts for that patron
18:26 libsysguy the only way that is a problem is url hijacks
18:26 jcamins Hm.
18:25 libsysguy print or no thanks
18:25 libsysguy just a dialog
18:25 libsysguy i was trying to do it the lazy way and just add it for all sco's
18:25 jcamins I guess that might be okay.
18:25 libsysguy oh no i didn't
18:25 jcamins Oh, you already added a slip syspref?
18:25 libsysguy for sco**
18:24 libsysguy i guess i could make a new 'permission' and set it to true if print slips are enabled as a syspref
18:24 libsysguy i am set as a standard patron on my install and i can SCO
18:23 jcamins I think it's just circulate, isn't it?
18:23 jcamins libsysguy: so that if a library does not want one of their SCO machines printing receipts, it won't.
18:23 libsysguy i thought everyone could do that
18:23 libsysguy do you know of a permission to 'self-checkout'
18:22 jcamins libsysguy: keeping it.
18:22 libsysguy jcamins did you mean it would be good to retain the permissions or it would be a good feature
18:22 eythian by all means :)
18:19 jcamins Maybe I should pick those up.
18:19 eythian I haven't done any moving on them, they are still "almost there"
18:18 eythian jcamins: I realised I need to book some things for the weekend.
18:18 libsysguy that feature or retaining permissions
18:18 jcamins libsysguy: yes, that would be good.
18:18 jcamins eythian: go to a pub, but first tell me if I saw something about you moving forward on the koha-i18n-es-ES (etc.) packages.
18:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8033 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, In Discussion , add print receipt option to Koha self-check
18:18 libsysguy so im working on bug 8033, and just realized that you need permissions to print slips
18:17 drojf i'm not sure about that
18:16 datadoctor Those snails are really good at spam filtering as well!
18:15 datadoctor They were delicious! :D
18:15 drojf heh
18:15 datadoctor Thanks drojf, and also for the Snails!
18:15 jcamins VMWare should work fine on Debian, I'd think.
18:15 drojf +1 for debian
18:14 datadoctor Thought about trying an alternative, but seeing as you had problems, I'll stick with what I know.
18:14 datadoctor I will take your word for it. We are currently running on Debian Squeeze, but had some problems with VMWare tools on a test install.
18:13 jcamins datadoctor: I don't know it's good advice, but I certainly feel strongly about it. ;)
18:12 datadoctor Thanks for the good advice jcamins!
18:12 * jcamins hated Ubuntu 12.04.
18:11 jcamins No question.
18:11 wahanui hmmm... squeeze is 3.2.x
18:11 jcamins Squeeze.
18:11 datadoctor What do y'all think about installing on Debian Squeeze vs. Ubuntu 12 Server?
18:01 eythian jcamins: I had things to fix, but I just ran it, it seems happy, and in about 5 minutes I shall be going that way.
18:01 jcamins eythian: shouldn't you be off at the pub by now?
17:54 eythian jcamins: heh
17:54 eythian sure. run this, and see what happens: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=import/csv/elm_merge.pl;h=caede6ee52336f4d5ead05e9b520f4f55eb1e46e;hb=waimate_import
17:54 drojf :D
17:54 jcamins [off] Dear sir kindly send detailed step by step video tutorial on merging new data with exact commands that match my situation and not yours.
17:53 drojf nah i'll just go with answer number two, "i'm sorry, it's just not possible"
17:52 drojf i'll take your irc help for free then. kindly guide step by step, video tutorial preferred :D
17:51 eythian I shall charge a hefty amount.
17:51 drojf we will all send you our old data files :)
17:51 eythian on the other hand, I know how to do it now :)
17:51 eythian in hindsight, me too.
17:50 drojf ouch
17:50 jcamins eythian: if it were their fault, I'd tell them they had to choose between the two weeks of missing data and the data since go-live.
17:50 eythian two days of scripting later.
17:49 eythian I _think_ I have the last of the kinks out.
17:49 eythian It's a nightmare to merge in.
17:49 eythian seriously, if anyone tells you they sent you a 2 week old data file, just put your hands up and back away slowly.
17:42 drojf :D
17:38 eythian "remember to pick up some milk"
17:33 drojf i don't
17:32 jcamins drojf: I wouldn't count on it.
17:30 drojf [off] i wonder what i wrote in that message. i hope it's appropriate for an ex-girlfriend :D
17:30 drojf http://www.realsnailmail.net/ delivered by an actual snail ;)
17:28 eythian haha wut?
17:24 drojf [off] Your Real Snail Mail™ message which you sent to <girlfriend at that time> on 20th Jun 2008 at 10:51:44 has been successfully delivered by agent 155 aka 'Liridon' on 3rd Jul 2012 at 13:04:38
17:24 drojf talking of slow…
17:19 eythian and I am on pretty good internet at home.
17:19 eythian Though, my sample size is small here.
17:19 eythian I hate to say this, but I've found the internet in the UK to be worse than what I have at home.
17:18 drojf well, slow sucky internet > no internet
17:11 jcamins You *must* use Zebra.
17:11 jcamins In particular, you cannot use NoZebra.
17:10 jcamins But be aware that a lot of those instructions are out of date.
17:10 eythian http://lmgtfy.com/?q=upgrading+koha+from+2.2 <-- sv
17:10 jcamins sv: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Upgrading_2.2
17:10 drojf hm my internet connection is really bad today. i try another reconnect
17:09 jcamins I wonder if you could do $[ = -1. :D
17:09 eythian mostly used in the old days of emulating awk, which is 1-indexed.
17:09 sv ok. tell me the migration procedure
17:09 drojf sounds like a great idea to drive people crazy. and by people i mean myself, after forgetting about it
17:08 eythian drojf: $[
17:08 jcamins drojf: yes, don't.
17:08 eythian drojf: you can
17:08 drojf you can do that?
17:08 eythian sv: there are no upgradation linux commands. It's basically a migration.
17:08 eythian jcamins: I would not do that.
17:08 jcamins eythian: not if you change the array start index magic constant.
17:08 * eythian also just forgot that arrays start at 0, it's one of those days.
17:07 wahanui yeah, that is cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha...
17:07 eythian yeah, that
17:07 eythian when I said...
17:07 jcamins I think eythian means "not the easiest thing in the world."
17:07 eythian err
17:07 sv k. tell me upgradation linux commands
17:06 senator Rakesh: ubuntu chooses to make specialized distros for servers and desktops separately. debian (and many other distros) make no such distinction. debian is just debian.
17:06 eythian sv: it is possible, it will take time though, it's the easiest thing in the world.
17:06 eythian sv: yes, though you know that koha 3.08 is out right?
17:06 drojf jcamins: just joking
17:06 jcamins sv: the short answer is "probably," the long answer is "as far as I know," and the detailed answer is "I have no idea how." :)
17:05 sv our library has koha 2.0.0 can we upgrade to 3.04.0
17:05 jcamins drojf: All the time?
17:04 eythian not really.
17:04 drojf all the time?
17:03 Rakesh i was just asking u that does trdebian has a server distro just like ubuntu has ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server
17:03 eythian ...
17:03 Rakesh oh just joking bro
17:03 eythian You spent longer asking for the link than it would take you to find it.
17:02 eythian I mean, if you were to type "debian" into a browser, you'd find the download link immediately
17:02 Rakesh just like ubuntu server is another distro
17:02 eythian Really?
17:02 Rakesh so please give me the link to download debian server
17:02 Rakesh ya
17:01 jcamins Most people use Debian.
17:01 jcamins That server can run Debian or Ubuntu.
17:01 jcamins Koha runs on a server.
17:01 jcamins A "server" is a computer that serves things to the internet. Debian is often used for servers. Ubuntu is too, sometimes.
17:00 Rakesh does debian has a server/
17:00 Rakesh ya i think so
16:59 eythian but it's not the best idea to put a gui on a server.
16:59 eythian if you install it, yeah
16:59 Rakesh so debian has a gui?
16:59 Rakesh okk
16:59 eythian I use it on Debian.
16:59 jcamins Rakesh: no one here uses Koha on Ubuntu.
16:59 eythian I haven't tested it, so I can't confirm.
16:58 Rakesh does it work
16:58 Rakesh please tell me the final bro
16:58 Rakesh mostly ok ? :)
16:58 wahanui coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines
16:58 jcamins coding guidelines?
16:56 eythian but ubuntu should be mostly OK too.
16:56 eythian it's more likely to work well
16:56 eythian *debian
16:56 eythian if you can, install debain
16:56 eythian yeah
16:56 Rakesh isnt it?
16:56 Rakesh that would be the best
16:55 Rakesh i think i must do a clean install of the server again
16:55 Rakesh okk
16:55 Rakesh and thnx again
16:55 eythian but, still remove the perl stuff in /usr/local
16:55 Rakesh bii
16:55 Rakesh okk
16:55 Rakesh bye for now
16:55 eythian Rakesh: this way is a lot easier
16:55 Rakesh srry
16:55 Rakesh bye fir now
16:55 Rakesh thnx guys
16:55 Rakesh okk i must try that and then report u al
16:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8202 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Add authorities to export tool
16:54 jcamins paul_p: signed off on your follow-up for bug 8202.
16:53 * eythian needs to make the packages happier with Ubuntu and do more testing on it really.
16:53 Rakesh i will try that'
16:53 Rakesh okk
16:53 jcamins Just follow the instructions.
16:53 eythian debian is very similar to Ubuntu
16:53 jcamins It works the same.
16:53 Rakesh but thats for debian
16:53 jcamins Three times.
16:53 jcamins That page we just posted.
16:53 Rakesh to install it on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit server
16:53 eythian Rakesh: dude, it's been posted 3 time in the past minute
16:53 jcamins Rakesh: I just did.
16:52 Rakesh please give me the guide page
16:52 wahanui okay, eythian.
16:52 eythian no wahanui, koha on debian is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze
16:52 wahanui thanks drojf :)
16:52 drojf wahanui botsnack beer
16:52 wahanui okay, eythian.
16:52 eythian no wahanui, koha on debian is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Debian_Squeeze
16:51 wahanui i think ^^ that page is *great*
16:51 jcamins ^^ that page
16:51 jcamins http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze
16:51 eythian I was sure it was in there
16:51 eythian damn
16:51 eythian package installation?
16:51 jcamins Hm.
16:51 Rakesh yes
16:51 jcamins Koha 3.8 on Debian?
16:51 jcamins Installing Koha on debian?
16:51 wahanui rumour has it koha on debian is installed and http://10.16.18.71:8080/ works fine. Now how do I configure the OPAC? entering IP address of the pc in Oak's local network just returns: "It works! This is the default web page for this server."
16:51 jcamins koha on debian?
16:51 Rakesh kk and how to do that'
16:51 eythian I suspect that with that gone, perl will use the regular versions which should work better.
16:51 wahanui well, installing koha is one thing. Doing development with it is something else.
16:51 jcamins installing koha?
16:51 Rakesh can u give me the link from where u read to install
16:50 jcamins You need to uninstall everything you installed with CPAN, and reinstall things correctly, using apt.
16:50 eythian I think that's what's causing the problems
16:50 eythian I'd move the /usr/local/lib/perl out of the way
16:50 Rakesh so what should i do now
16:50 jcamins If you would prefer a 32-bit server, sure. However, I use 64-bit only. I just follow the instructions when installing.
16:50 Rakesh kk
16:50 eythian no, that would be unnecessary
16:49 Rakesh so what should i do now install a 32-bit server
16:49 jcamins You used CPAN so you demonstrably did *not* follow the instructions this time.
16:49 eythian but I use the apt methods for everything, so I'm not sure what it would be.
16:49 eythian My best guess is that something you did the first time doesn't work on 64-bit
16:49 Rakesh no i followed the instructions
16:49 Rakesh would the new version be the problem
16:49 eythian hmm
16:49 Rakesh and when i tried it to install it on 12.04 64 bit server it gives the following errors
16:48 jcamins You probably followed the instructions that time.
16:48 Rakesh with no errors
16:48 Rakesh and it worked like a charm
16:48 Rakesh actually i had installled koha on ubuntu 11.10 desktop
16:47 Rakesh but theres something
16:47 Rakesh ya
16:47 jcamins You should do some research online to find out if that is a problem.
16:46 eythian http://search.cpan.org/~bingos/CPANPLUS-0.9130/lib/CPANPLUS.pm <-- interesting, wonder how that differs from regular cpan
16:46 Rakesh but while installing it also it says make would not test and install
16:46 jcamins eythian: ooh, I like jfgi.
16:46 Rakesh yes
16:46 eythian hrm, I don't think I know what cpanplus is
16:45 jcamins Much easier to do it right the first time. :)
16:45 jcamins Then you should do that. This is why you should follow instructions.
16:45 Rakesh first and i would like to tell u
16:45 Rakesh and it says to install cpanplus
16:44 Rakesh i saw the guide to uninstall'
16:44 drojf bye kf
16:44 Rakesh well eythian
16:44 drojf lol
16:44 kf bye all :)
16:44 eythian I'm confusing it with jfgi
16:44 eythian ahh
16:44 jcamins Heh.
16:43 eythian I'm sure the text used to be a bit more ... bitey.
16:43 drojf but people you send there just see it as a service now
16:43 * jcamins is a big fan of the mouse cursor animation
16:42 jcamins I don't know, it's still pretty snarky and wonderful. :)
16:42 drojf heh
16:41 * eythian thinks lmgtfy has got a lot less sarcastic over the years.
16:39 * jcamins fixes it.
16:39 jcamins Of course, I assigned it to me rather than the author of the patch...
16:38 eythian ohh nice
16:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Add test to compare sysprefs in db to syspref.sql
16:38 jcamins Bug 8353 is pretty darn cool.
16:37 eythian http://lmgtfy.com/?q=uninstalling+through+cpan <-- Rakesh
16:37 Rakesh please guide how to uninstall
16:36 drojf eythian: that would be witchcraft
16:36 Rakesh kk
16:36 jcamins Rakesh: you'll have to figure it out, then.
16:36 eythian if only someone were to set up a handy package repository containing everything you need...
16:36 Rakesh actually i dont no the command and how to uninstall
16:36 drojf just sayin'
16:36 jcamins Rakesh: you have to uninstall it via CPAN. You will need to figure out how to do that.
16:36 drojf also, rangi said it 10 hours ago. ten times at least
16:36 Rakesh kk
16:36 eythian I think you have used CPAN and made everything really confused.
16:35 eythian no, you need to remove it from however it got installed in /usr/local
16:35 jcamins This is why the instructions say very clearly to only use Debian packages and not CPAN for those packages that are available.
16:35 eythian (i'm not going to explain how to do that, ask your systems administrator)
16:35 Rakesh so should i remove the package and reinstalll it
16:35 eythian ssh into it?
16:35 Rakesh actually i have no gui running on it so how i can copy paste
16:34 * drojf giggles
16:34 eythian (also, you should probably copy-paste, it'll make life so much easier)
16:34 Rakesh 100 var/lib/dpkg/ststus
16:34 eythian you'll have to remove all the things you installed through CPAN and do it properly.
16:34 Rakesh 500 http://in.archive.ubutntu.com/ubuntu/precise/universe amd64 packages
16:34 eythian that was a bad idea.
16:33 eythian the local one is probably installed through CPAN
16:33 eythian suggest that you have installed it twice,.
16:33 eythian because the path: usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2/auto/Lingua/Stem/Snowball/Snowball.so
16:33 eythian well that's wierd
16:33 Rakesh *** 0.952-2build2 0
16:32 Rakesh Version table
16:32 Rakesh Candidate 0.952-2build2
16:32 Rakesh installed: 0.952-2build2
16:31 Rakesh it says that
16:30 Rakesh what it said
16:30 Rakesh ya i will give u in detail
16:30 Rakesh i am ubuntu server 12.04 64 bit
16:30 eythian I don't know, you still haven't told me what the apt-cache policy command says
16:30 Rakesh okk so u think that the package version is wrong
16:29 eythian What debian version are you using?
16:29 eythian I don't know how you'd install the 32-bit version to be honest.
16:29 eythian probably remove that package and install the proper one.
16:29 Rakesh i also think that can u please give me the correct command via apt-get to install a64 bit version of this
16:29 eythian if you had only ran the apt-cache policy command, it probably would have said as much
16:28 Rakesh so how to correct it
16:28 eythian you have installed the 32 bit version on a 64 bit machine.
16:28 eythian you have installed the wrong version of the package.
16:28 Rakesh Begin failed--compilation aborted
16:28 Rakesh compilation failed in require
16:28 Rakesh srry at -e line 0
16:27 Rakesh at -e lne0
16:27 Rakesh cant load 'usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2/auto/Lingua/Stem/Snowball/Snowball.so' for the module Lingua::Stem::Snowball: usr/local/lib/perl5.14.2/auto/Lingua/stem/snowball/Snowball.so: wrong ELF class: wrong ELF class:ELFCLASS32 at /usr/lib/perl/5.14/Dynaloader.pm line 184
16:25 eythian that you're taking so long to reply leads me to think that it's not saying "OK"
16:23 Rakesh perl -MLingua::Stem::Snowball -e 'print "OK\n";' says the following
16:23 eythian me too
16:22 * jcamins hopes you're right about it being idempotent. :P
16:21 eythian so I just need to implement handling of returns and it should work.
16:21 eythian and the script is (in theory) idempotent
16:21 jcamins This is an *awesome* script.
16:21 eythian fortunately, everyone is asleep now
16:21 jcamins Hm.
16:21 eythian yeah.
16:21 jcamins eythian: uh-oh.
16:20 eythian Drat.
16:20 eythian gar, my circulation merging script forgot to take into account returns between the file versions.
16:20 jcamins drojf: awesome! Shari loves kettle corn.
16:20 drojf jcamins: a huge kettle of kettle corn ;)
16:19 Rakesh very sory
16:19 Rakesh o sorry
16:19 drojf lol
16:19 eythian <Rakesh> it says that it is to the newest version
16:19 eythian <eythian> what does apt-cache policy liblingua-stem-snowball-perl say?
16:19 eythian liblingua-stem-snowball-perl
16:19 eythian Rakesh: then why did you answer when I told you to run it before?
16:19 Rakesh i didnt run apt-cache policy command?
16:18 eythian also, when you ran the apt-cache policy command, what version did it say?
16:18 Rakesh kk let me check
16:18 jcamins drojf: I hope it's kettle corn.
16:17 eythian no, on the command line
16:17 Rakesh in cpan?
16:17 eythian and see what it says
16:17 eythian Rakesh: run this command: perl -MLingua::Stem::Snowball -e 'print "OK\n";'
16:16 jcamins Thanks.
16:16 jcamins drojf: lol
16:16 * drojf offers general afternoon popcorn to everybody
16:15 Rakesh :s
16:15 Rakesh yes thesnowball package also says that it is installed but the command ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m shows that it is not installed'
16:13 eythian Rakesh: and what does it say is the latet version?
16:13 Rakesh and for the package Lingua:Stem:Snowball?
16:13 Rakesh kk
16:12 wizzyrea for now
16:12 wizzyrea graphics magick is always a problem. You can safely ignore it
16:12 Rakesh it says that it is to the newest version
16:12 wizzyrea keke
16:12 eythian Rakesh: ^
16:12 eythian what does apt-cache policy liblingua-stem-snowball-perl say?
16:12 wizzyrea Rakesh: try apt-get install liblingua-stem-snowball-perl
16:12 Rakesh and Graphics: magick also gives the same error
16:11 Rakesh but i checked it through cpan that it is installed
16:11 Rakesh Libget:Stem:Snowball is nott installed
16:11 Rakesh ya it tells that
16:10 wizzyrea from the catalog detail
16:10 eythian Rakesh: maybe you installed the wrong things. But we don't know because you're not telling us exactly what it says.
16:10 wizzyrea can you click on items and edit them?
16:10 wizzyrea i mean, can you search for a title, click on the detail, and see the items?
16:10 tcohen wizzyrea: don't get it
16:10 Rakesh and still it gives me the error that two dependencies are not installed
16:09 wizzyrea tcohen: can you get through to items at all?
16:09 tcohen and a similar one in circulation.pl
16:09 jcamins Copy the output you're seeing into paste.koha-community.org.
16:09 jcamins Details are important.
16:09 Rakesh i have 3.8,1
16:09 jcamins Rakesh: so far, you have told us NOTHING that we can use to troubleshoot your problem.
16:09 tcohen wizzyrea: right
16:09 Rakesh and i install all 8 via apt-get
16:09 jcamins Rakesh: what version of Koha do you have?
16:09 wizzyrea ok so, tcohen - you are trying to click through to an item from the log, and it's giving the error?
16:09 Rakesh it gave me 8 dependencies to install
16:09 libsysguy ahhh ok i understand
16:09 Rakesh and i ran the command ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m to check that everything installed
16:08 jcamins He's changing from YUI autocomplete to JQueryUI autocomplete.
16:08 libsysguy oh
16:08 jcamins No.
16:08 libsysguy maybe im misunderstanding...he is modifying the core of the ui modules?
16:08 jcamins What do you mean?
16:07 libsysguy jcamins, isn't that going to mess with updating it?
16:07 jcamins Rakesh: what version of Koha are you using?
16:07 eythian copy-paste what you're seeing into a paste bin, stuff like that.
16:07 jcamins libsysguy: oleonard is changing every instance of each control he works on.
16:07 tcohen this time not using the koha-upgrade-to-3.4 wrapper but the script
16:07 Rakesh see i have installed all the perl dependencies
16:07 libsysguy dialog
16:07 libsysguy oh lol
16:07 tcohen kf: i've ran that script, but running it again
16:07 jcamins libsysguy: I mean, which JQueryUI control.
16:07 eythian versions of things, for example.
16:07 libsysguy low on the todem i would imagine
16:07 eythian Rakesh: you're going to have to provide more info.
16:07 libsysguy sco
16:06 jcamins libsysguy: which control are you working with?
16:06 libsysguy thanks jcamins, hdl, and wizzyrea
16:06 Rakesh hey please i ve a serious issue'
16:06 jcamins He's doing it one control at a time.
16:06 jcamins Parts.
16:06 libsysguy is that implemented?
16:05 jcamins libsysguy: yes, under no circumstances should you use YUI for something new.
16:05 hdl there is a branch on his repo about that.
16:05 wizzyrea yes
16:05 libsysguy oleonard has been working on jqueryui integration right?
16:05 hdl but could need some more documentation to help the user.
16:04 jcamins hdl: so, no need for luck.
16:04 hdl so works.
16:04 hdl jcamins: we have been using that for quite a number of things now.
16:03 jcamins hdl: "lucky"? ;)
16:03 hdl if you feel lucky, test, and if you enjoy it share that with the community.
16:03 jcamins Ah, very cool!
16:03 Rakesh i ran the to check that everything is installed and i havwe instaled everything but still it says that i have not completed the installation of modules
16:02 hdl those two in our repository are doing that.
16:01 Rakesh i have run the command to check that i have installled all the perl modules
16:01 jcamins hdl: we have the syspref tests, but they only check the codebase, not the database.
16:01 tcohen jcamins: unfortunately, i have both...
16:00 hdl and in master biblibre, in xt files, you can find syspref.t and check_syspref.t
16:00 tcohen jcamins: you're right!
16:00 jcamins hdl++
16:00 kf have you run the script to remove items from the marc xml?
16:00 jcamins tcohen: that's not the error message you pasted earlier.
16:00 * kf read back
16:00 kf you are updating from 3.1 to 3.8?
16:00 kf ok
15:59 tcohen kf: "Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2965."
15:59 * jcamins never heard of that.
15:59 jcamins Awesome!
15:59 jcamins hdl: really?
15:59 hdl jcamins: there is. check_sysprefs.pl in misc ?
15:59 kf sorry if I missed the description
15:59 kf tcohen: what exactly is your problem?
15:59 jcamins Rakesh: you should tell us what your question is.
15:58 tcohen my problem is that i'm running out of time
15:58 Rakesh and in the koha directory
15:58 tcohen i'm on the test server right now
15:58 Rakesh i have installed all the perl modules
15:58 jcamins tcohen: and you didn't have this problem on your test server?
15:58 tcohen (trying to circulate, from old circulation logs, etc)
15:58 hdl And if you are trying to see the sanity for DB structure, julian developped something but not ported to community.
15:58 tcohen and i'm having trouble when requesting items info
15:57 tcohen its a 3.1.x -> 3.8.x upgrade
15:57 jcamins tcohen: unfortunately, there is no script to tell you if you are lacking any sysprefs in your database.
15:57 tcohen thanks hdl
15:57 Rakesh hi any 1 there
15:57 hdl in order to know which sysprefs are missing.
15:56 hdl tcohen: you have some checksysprefs t files.
15:55 Rakesh hi
15:52 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
15:52 wizzyrea the first question?
15:49 tcohen i need to find out the cause of this error or i'll be axed!
15:48 tcohen are there some sanity checks for koha DB? missing sysprefs, unused sysprefs, invalid data?
15:32 gaetan_B bye #koha !
15:26 tcohen i don't know why there should be that info on the record
15:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8352 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add automatic printing of 'hold to pull' notices
15:25 khall bug 8352 ready for signoff if anyone is interested
15:25 eythian could be.
15:24 tcohen looks like there is some linkage data missing?
15:22 tcohen clicking on an item
15:22 tcohen i'm in the circulation log report
15:22 eythian what do you do right before it happens?
15:21 tcohen (.deb 3.8.x install)
15:21 tcohen "Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Items.pm line 1367."
15:21 tcohen can anyone recognise this?
15:21 tcohen hi #koha
15:06 wizzyrea (despite the "bluevaganza")
15:06 wizzyrea (she's cool though)
15:05 wizzyrea (that's one of my librarians, if you can imagine)
15:05 wizzyrea lol oy.
15:02 relish Bluevaganza? Sounds like a Jane Fonda word. https://sparklinggnome.wordpress.com (link from http://instagram.com/p/MmwBejtAru)
15:02 kf I mean... moby dick, quite a lot pages
15:02 * wizzyrea giggles
15:02 kf about the book, maybe they don't expect many loans?
15:02 kf lol
15:01 eythian I do practice in front of a mirror to perfect it, you know.
15:01 wizzyrea oh eythian your snark is priceless :)
15:00 wizzyrea haha
15:00 eythian sure, but that's what it looked like in the 70's!
14:59 wizzyrea for those of you who think kansas is barren wasteland: http://instagram.com/p/MmwBejtAru/
14:47 eythian Not here, i think :)
14:47 SJeffery It does have a swear word in the title...that could upset some people...
14:46 jcamins Probably not.
14:46 jcamins lol
14:45 eythian Moby Dick?
14:45 jcamins Maybe it's a controversial book?
14:45 jcamins SJeffery: buying a new book for closed stacks in a public library?
14:44 eythian I suppose it could be something they like to keep a copy of and something happened to the previous one.
14:44 jcamins Academics do it all the time.
14:44 SJeffery why weird?
14:44 jcamins Okay, that's weird.
14:44 eythian though a small one
14:44 eythian public
14:44 jcamins eythian: academic?
14:43 eythian I wonder why they bought something to put it straight on the stack
14:43 eythian <subfield code="c">STACK</subfield>
14:43 eythian <subfield code="d">2012-06-22</subfield>
13:32 * mtompset waves.
13:32 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), I'm off.
13:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8329 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , GetLostItems in C4::Items.pm has a SELECT *
13:30 mtompset I was only pondering this code because my bug 8329 has a modification in the same module.
13:26 mtompset if the key is 0 length, clearly there's no need to build that part of the SQL either.
13:26 mtompset and how do you do a "where '' like 'string'"?
13:25 mtompset Why would you do a "blah like %%"?
13:22 eythian why length checks?
13:22 mtompset But it's late... I'll think about that tomorrow.
13:21 mtompset I figure a if defined and 2 length checks would optimize the generation of SQL statements.
13:21 mtompset or $where->{$key}
13:20 mtompset And neither is the value of the $where, which is the hashref that is passed to the function.
13:20 mtompset push @query_parameters, "%$where->{$key}%";
13:20 mtompset $query .= " AND $key LIKE ?"; -- the $key length isn't checked.
13:19 mtompset though, I suppose there could be an improvement in the code.
13:18 mtompset So my fix is overkilled.
13:18 eythian ah right
13:18 mtompset yes, but this fix I put into our system would have been AFTER the warning.
13:18 eythian No, it won't. But avoiding warnings is good, there's already far too many of them.
13:16 mtompset yes, but nothing fatal.
13:16 eythian I would expect it to also throw a warning.
13:14 mtompset Seems the hash reference of that passed to a subfunction is treated the same as ''
13:14 mtompset I'm trying to set $v => 1 in a hash but have $v as undefined.
13:13 mtompset Well, now I'm wondering if I was being over cautious in some of my patches.
12:43 mtompset Just a couple haven't made it.
12:43 kf :)
12:38 mtompset I'm just reconciling my bug fixes on our production system with what I have submitted to make sure they are all there.
12:35 mtompset Yes, but I'm still struggling with git.
12:35 kf mtompset: I was right, eh? after the first patch it's easy :)
12:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8350 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , $search = '0' or 0 will fail to affect SQL statement correctly in C4::Breeding
12:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Attempted string substitution in C4::Breeding fails on undefined
12:33 mtompset There bug 8349 and bug 8350 dealt with.
12:22 mtompset true.
12:22 jcamins They may not actually be duplicate bugs, but if the patch for the second can completely fix the first as well, better to just have one patch.
12:21 mtompset DOH!
12:21 mtompset Didn't...
12:21 mtompset Did mean to enter a duplicate. :(
12:20 mtompset Okay.
12:20 jcamins In that case, I suggest you mark bug one a duplicate of bug two.
12:20 mtompset if they push 1 before 2, the yes, I'll have to fix the patch up for 2.
12:20 mtompset If the push 2, before 1, then 1 is already solved.
12:19 jcamins At that point, depending on the complexity of the patches, bug one will probably be marked "Does not apply" and you'll be asked to revise the patch so that it will apply.
12:19 jcamins If bug one's patch can only be applied *before* bug two, and someone signs off on bug two first because it is easier to test, the patch for bug one will no longer apply.
12:18 mtompset Uh, what do you mean by that?
12:17 jcamins mtompset: you'll be responsible for rebasing if one of the patches is pushed before the other.
12:16 mtompset Well, I think I'll see also field them both, and let whoever pushes things forward figure out the best course of action.
12:14 jcamins You could also say the second bug depends on the first bug, if the first bug needs to be fixed before the second.
12:13 jcamins There's a see also field.
12:13 mtompset How do I mark the two bugs related in bugzilla?
12:12 mtompset because there could be a title, author or isbn number '0'
12:12 mtompset BUT... there's still that ugly set of if statements to fix.
12:12 mtompset Now, I figured since the first three wouldn't have a space to substitute there's no problem.
12:11 mtompset And realized that 0,'0','',NULL, and everything other string cases don't work the same.
12:11 mtompset Then I looked at the if statement.
12:10 mtompset So, I figured move the search into the if statement below.
12:10 mtompset You can't substitute on a null.
12:10 mtompset Around line 182
12:09 mtompset Take a look at C4::Breeding.pm
12:09 mtompset the secondary bug is tied in with the first bug.
12:09 mtompset BUT...
12:09 mtompset I bug reported the fixed the first bug.
12:08 jcamins mtompset++ # for fixing the bug
12:08 mtompset I found a bug... fixed it... and then found a secondary bug.
12:08 wahanui well, question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
12:08 mtompset Okay... question.
11:55 libsysguy among other things :p
11:55 jcamins libsysguy: it's too forgiving?
11:55 libsysguy and that is why you shouldn't use svn...
11:55 * jcamins uses git blame all the time.
11:54 eythian libsysguy: svn has 'blame' and 'praise' as synonyms.
11:54 jcamins That was supposed to be "merge"
11:54 eythian I don't do that for that. I just 'git bz apply' and then 'git commit --amend -s'
11:54 * libsysguy is waiting to see jcamins use the blame function in git
11:53 jcamins I do use git mere occasionally, when signing off on things.
11:52 eythian though, git pull == git fetch && git merge, I habitually do them separately.
11:52 kf lonely developers of koha? ;)
11:52 eythian it's not too common for me either.
11:51 jcamins eythian: oh, that makes sense. Not something that happens very often for me.
11:51 eythian I do if multiple people are working on a feature branch.
11:50 jcamins kf++
11:50 * jcamins has never used git pull.
11:49 eythian I pretty much never use git pull tbh
11:48 eythian (which may be origin/master in your case)
11:48 eythian I always use kc/master
11:48 eythian I don't do git pulls to master
11:48 jcamins eythian: right.
11:48 mtompset but if you are doing git pulls to master, then wouldn't that make 'master' the place to check if it exists in master?
11:48 jcamins eythian: someone else who has the git.k-c.org repo named kc? Cool!
11:48 eythian yeah, but I deliberately do that in a detached head, so if I mess up and try to commit something, it tells me.
11:47 libsysguy heh
11:47 jcamins I check out kc/master when I want to see if a problem exists in master.
11:47 eythian I always create branches off of kc/master
11:47 jcamins Right.
11:47 mtompset So you just git fetch and the create new bug branches without going back to master?
11:47 libsysguy just to have something to go back to when i invariably screw up
11:46 * libsysguy doesn't either
11:46 * jcamins doesn't either.
11:46 eythian I never use my local master branch to avoid confusion.
11:46 eythian it depends what you want to do really
11:46 jcamins _This_ is where you do a git pull.
11:45 mtompset And so how do I correct that?
11:45 eythian that means that your version of 'master' is 13 commits behind 'origin/master'
11:44 mtompset What does that mean?
11:44 mtompset it tells me I am 13 commits behind.
11:44 mtompset okay... when I 'git checkout master'
11:40 libsysguy interest in
11:34 libsysguy you know, usual new job stuff :p
11:33 libsysguy its good, picking up lots of new processes
11:33 libsysguy morning kf
11:33 kf hi libsysguy - how is the new job?
11:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Attempted string substitution in C4::Breeding fails on undefined
11:30 mtompset bug 8349
11:29 jcamins Yup.
11:29 mtompset Okay, so I should keep submitting my patches for it. :)
11:29 jcamins I won't be doing anything with it.
11:28 mtompset What about C4::Breeding?
11:28 kf s
11:28 kf hope no more earthquake
11:28 kf good night
11:28 jcamins mtompset: I rewrote some things.
11:28 mtompset Have a good night. :)
11:27 rangi ok, animals are all calm after that shake, time to hit the hay
11:27 mtompset Isn't jcamins renaming a bunch of C4 libraries to Koha?
11:25 mtompset But when dealing with if ($var) you need to run through a couple cases. :)
11:23 mtompset And rangi... I'm already Craaaaaazy! ;)
11:23 kf pretty opacs
11:23 kf almost all my examples are nz!
11:23 kf heh
11:23 wahanui rumour has it https://library.plantandfood.co.nz/ is a research library
11:23 davidnind https://library.plantandfood.co.nz/
11:22 rangi plantandfood?
11:22 mtompset it's the difference between if ($var) and if (defined($var))
11:21 kf ok, someone with as uggestion for a nice special library's opac? :)
11:17 rangi mtompset: trying to guess all the possible valid things is the path to madness, just check its non empty
11:15 kf maybe as a pseudonym
11:15 kf lol
11:15 eythian I'm sure it's happened
11:15 eythian yes
11:13 mtompset Would anyone change their full legal name to '0'?
11:13 mtompset What about an author's name?
11:12 * kf nods
11:12 rangi its certainly possible
11:11 mtompset Is there a book or thing that would be entered into koha with the title '0' (without the quotes)?
11:09 mtompset shoot! I hate fixing something, and then realizing there is a secondary bug to fix as a result.
11:08 rangi yep
11:07 eythian Now it's only for something really big that it slows down.
11:07 eythian geonet has got a lot better in recent years, used to be you could tell how big a quake was by how long it took to respond.
11:07 eythian so I heard :)
11:07 anitsirk hi eythian. you missed the action
11:06 anitsirk rangi: i can't report my "did you feel it" report as that geonet page is down. it seems to happen whenever there is a big quake
11:06 eythian also, the governmetn :)
11:05 rangi ahh wellington ... we live on a convergence of fault lines, lets build stilt houses on hills!!
11:04 davidnind Bit of a worry when you are in an older flat on stilts on the side of a hill!
11:03 anitsirk you bet. i'm uploading the presentation to slideshare. might as well get it done.
11:03 rangi davidnind: wasnt it just
11:02 rangi anitsirk: now you have to wait for the adrenalin to wear off before you can sleep?
11:02 davidnind Was a quite a shake! Biggest one I've felt in Wellington for a while (maybe ever?).
10:59 davidnind Thanks kf. I can generally only answer the simpler things to date..
10:59 rangi there's pretty much nowhere that didnt feel that
10:58 rangi http://geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/ kapow!
10:56 kf davidnind++ #answering mailing list mails :)
10:54 slef multiposters--
10:54 slef bah the email I replied to was a second thread by the posted of the 3.2.4 rangi mentioned earlier
10:54 anitsirk and it was a long one
10:54 anitsirk yeah. it was something.
10:53 rangi ohhh shit
10:53 anitsirk now they said it's 7.0
10:53 kf hi anitsirk
10:52 rangi they slept thru it .. nzers :-)
10:52 rangi and 257km down
10:52 anitsirk oh my.
10:52 lamiette anitsirk seriously made my heart leap listening to you
10:52 rangi it was up near new plymouth
10:52 anitsirk are the kids ok?
10:52 anitsirk great to read that.
10:51 anitsirk i had a bit of a shock as my building had never shaken that much before. but then i'd not have a 6.5 quake in welly before.
10:51 rangi i am
10:51 anitsirk hi guys. i hope rangi is fine in his house.
10:51 rangi heya anitsirk :)
10:50 rangi so would have felt in in new plymouth
10:50 rangi yeah 60k west of opunake
10:50 lamiette geonet has it in the water?
10:49 rangi e
10:49 rangi lucky only 4 people live ther
10:48 rangi thats a long way away
10:48 rangi opunake
10:47 eythian but has no news :)
10:47 eythian stuff.co.nz is pretty slow.
10:46 rangi yeah it was about 5 seconds
10:46 lamiette sounded seriously impressive
10:46 lamiette yeah, she's still talking
10:45 kf :( did she come back since?
10:45 lamiette the room then looked at me for confirmation it'd be okay ...
10:45 lamiette just hear it
10:45 lamiette we couldn't see her at this stage
10:45 eythian (the conf being in the UK, and kristina videoing in)
10:45 rangi the dogs flipped out
10:45 rangi yeah, it was decent
10:44 eythian <lamiette> middle of her talking "shit, earthquake *lots of noise - kristina making it to doorway*"
10:44 eythian <lamiette> guys, we are listening to Kristina at this conf
10:44 rangi yep
10:43 eythian also further away than the map makes it look like
10:43 rangi thats what saved us
10:43 rangi yeah
10:43 eythian that's pretty deep
10:42 eythian 258
10:42 eythian kf: yeah, it's not a 7 :)
10:42 rangi must have been deep
10:42 eythian or nearby anyway
10:42 kf but it's still labelled as moderate?
10:42 eythian but, in Wellington
10:42 kf :(
10:42 rangi ouch
10:41 eythian 6.5
10:41 eythian http://beta.geonet.org.nz/
10:40 rangi which usually means its far away
10:40 rangi and long
10:40 rangi yep
10:40 rangi we dont usually feel them in this house
10:40 mtj meh, felt quite biggish :/
10:40 kf strong?
10:39 rangi else somewhere is a mess
10:39 rangi i hope that was centered here
10:39 kf_lunch that's probably likely
10:39 eythian Although, I think if I did, half of the buildings here would have fallen down.
10:38 eythian I didn't feel it.
10:38 wahanui i heard earthquake was on the news
10:38 rangi earthquake
10:37 slef it must be oldies day!
10:37 * slef replies with "sarge is dead. Upgrade"
10:36 slef (collected myself with a pedal while turning)
10:36 slef that took some doing
10:36 slef oh actually the last failure was me crashing into my own bike while walking
10:35 slef kerbs tend to be the usual "failing to cross as a sharp enough angle" error
10:35 slef I was looking forwards. The last failure I recall was expecting the car to pull away from the lights faster than it did.
10:34 eythian in slef's case, I'd also add "look forwards"
10:34 slef cars, kerbs, ...
10:34 eythian Really it boils down to "bike like a car would drive" :)
10:34 slef usually I ride into stuff
10:34 slef the only non-self-inflicted accident I remember is being rear-ended by another cyclist
10:33 mtompset Sounds manipulative. :P
10:32 eythian I've learnt how to make cars do what I want them to do for the most part :)
10:31 eythian She was lucky I wasn't a bus.
10:30 eythian the only (non-self-inflicted) accident I've had was hitting a pedestrian who walked into the road without looking.
10:30 rangi i think eythian not yet
10:30 rangi yeah most cyclists at catalyst have been collected at least once
10:29 slef some of Wellington's roads didn't look much fun, narrow with too many cars going too fast
10:29 rangi i rode every weekday for 7 years at uni, but never really have in wellington
10:29 eythian I just bike around the glass :)
10:29 eythian I don't on the road, just regular tyres.
10:29 rangi i honestly havent ridden on the road in years
10:29 eythian slef: the council in Wellington said the busses were going to get racks about 2017 or so, but I think there was enough of a stink that they're bringing it forward.
10:29 slef rangi: do you use armoured tyres over there?
10:28 mtompset I'm guessing.
10:28 slef Some of the buses in Scotland actually have racks, I hear. I'm not sure I blieve that.
10:28 mtompset Because they were running 2.X and 3.4 says it can't upgrade from it?
10:28 eythian looks like they're following a really old tutorial
10:28 slef Trains are often limited to 2 non-folders by policy, even though the trains vary between 0 and 8 cycle racks. Buses? hahahahaha
10:27 rangi 3.2.4 ?? why on earth would someone be trying to install that
10:27 slef I'm still pondering getting a folder because mass transport here is so anti-bike.
10:27 slef I have one on the west coast and have borrowed one on the east coast.
10:26 rangi i know a lot of people with more than 3
10:26 rangi i have an old 10 speed, and 2 mountain bikes, one is a downhill one, which is pretty much useless for anything else, i should get some new tyres for the other one
10:25 rangi since i left uni
10:25 mtompset Why would you need 3?
10:25 rangi i just dont often ride them :)
10:25 mtompset 3 bikes?!
10:25 mtompset So, I guess staging/import is what I'm looking for.
10:25 rangi i own 3 bikes
10:25 eythian heh
10:25 eythian rangi: for your ... bike?
10:24 rangi we could send some to slef :)
10:24 mtompset I did find something about 'module to add biblios to import_records...'
10:24 rangi eythian: yep i might have to get some
10:24 mtj ask paul_p about it :p
10:24 mtj afaik, its a frenglish translation
10:23 mtompset perhaps...
10:23 mtj yeah, thats it real usage
10:22 eythian I think it's a weird library term
10:22 eythian isn't that what handles marc staging, or am I wrong?
10:22 mtompset ha ha ha... It triggered an error and I patched it, so I'd like to bug report and post a patch.
10:20 eythian rangi: good to see Koha is printed on the top of the new round of Catalyst cycling gear :)
10:20 mtj mtompset: its an experimental module, to enable Koha to make babies
10:18 mtompset What component is C4::Breeding.pm?
10:11 mtompset I'm just doing some file compares to make sure that any changes I have done have made it into master, or if they were already fixed.
10:11 mtompset In the midst of my confusion over Zebra/NoZebra... I actually modified some broken NoZebra code on our production machine.
10:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio
10:10 rangi attached to bug 7430
10:10 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=9903
10:09 rangi theres a patch to do just that already
10:07 mtompset I suppose that removing NoZebra means that the _AddBiblioNoZebra function will be removed from C4::Biblio.pm?
10:05 vfernandes its the first time using MARC21 so there is many things different from UNIMARC
10:04 slef vfernandes: thanks. You're welcome.
10:04 vfernandes * rangi
10:03 vfernandes thanks ragi and slef... :D
10:01 vfernandes the y subfield is in another page
10:01 vfernandes the field has many subfields that creates another page
10:01 vfernandes omg forget it...
10:01 rangi should be
09:59 vfernandes it's possible to add it right?
09:59 vfernandes damn it appears in mapping but not in the framework
09:57 rangi itype 952 y Koha item type
09:56 rangi vfernandes: yes it is, if its not in yours, there is something messed up in your install
09:56 rangi alex_a: ahhh, how annoying!
09:56 alex_a :-/
09:56 vfernandes MARC Bibliographic framework
09:56 alex_a just a syspref
09:55 slef vfernandes: Administation: Koha-MARC links?
09:55 alex_a LabelMARCView
09:55 alex_a kf, rangi: it's a syspref
09:55 vfernandes MARC21 biblio model in KOHA... cataloguing
09:55 rangi and its fredericd's :)
09:55 rangi slef: never tried it
09:54 slef vfernandes: MARC21 model?
09:54 slef rangi: is tajoli(?)'s synchronous zebraqueue daemon ready yet? It's been on my todo-sometime-when-I-get-time list
09:54 vfernandes ok... but the MARC21 model doesn't have 952$y...
09:54 mtompset That will run every 5 minutes.
09:54 mtompset So, Herwig, change the 1 to */5
09:54 rangi thats item level itemtype :)
09:54 slef vfernandes: and 952$y
09:53 rangi thats biblio level itemtype
09:53 slef (or it should be)
09:53 slef vfernandes: itemtype is 942$c, also on that page.
09:53 mtompset true...
09:53 vfernandes right... but how about itemtype?
09:53 rangi or your search will be telling people stuff is on the shelves when its not
09:53 rangi mtompset: you want it running every 5 if you are circulating items
09:53 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
09:53 slef vfernandes: @marc 952
09:52 vfernandes Hi guys... can anyone explain to me how MARC21 items works? all my projects until today were using UNIMARC
09:51 Herwig lol ok
09:51 mtompset I'll just take a coke. ;)
09:51 Herwig thx peeps never got out off this without this help ill buy you all a beer
09:50 mtompset Where is the old data coming from?
09:50 Herwig now the next part starts getting my old data in the system :OP
09:50 mtompset But I doubt you are adding things that you need to see every 5 minutes.
09:49 mtompset no, you could change it as you want.
09:49 Herwig must i put it on 1 min ?
09:49 * mtompset nods.
09:49 Herwig thats the one in the cronjobs
09:49 mtompset that's fine... that's updates hourly on the first minute.
09:48 Herwig 1 * * * * koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null
09:48 Herwig i think i do sec
09:47 mtompset -b -a -z?
09:47 mtj yay! /me hands Herwig a doppelbock
09:47 mtompset or just a updates?
09:46 mtompset -b -a -r
09:46 mtompset Are you running a full reindex in a cron job?
09:46 mtompset That's a good start.
09:45 Herwig :) :) :)
09:45 Herwig omg i have results
09:45 mtompset I might be able to make some suggestions.
09:45 Herwig :)
09:45 mtompset Me too! YAY!
09:44 Herwig ubuntu virtual server
09:44 Herwig i'm used to linux at home but not the code type things so its all learning for me
09:44 mtompset Are you running Debian?
09:44 Herwig lol :)
09:43 mtompset I feel your pain. I was doing that for the last week.
09:43 Herwig fighting it with help from some peeps here
09:43 mtompset Oops... too slow. Someone pointed out checking KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB already. :)
09:43 Herwig yup
09:42 mtompset Herwig... are you talking about Zebra?
09:42 Herwig good news i got a listing and it said cleaning (i hope its good news)
09:41 alex_a yes, marc is correct. Not the display
09:41 kf alex_a: no, doesn't look good - I downloaed the marc from opac, that looks correct, so it's the display
09:41 Herwig ill try
09:40 mtj Herwig: 'export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib' is probably correct for you...
09:40 Herwig time for googling that :P
09:38 rangi alex_a: ouch, that doesnt look good at all
09:38 Herwig no i dont now where to point it
09:38 mtj Herwig: your PERL5LIB line is incorrect - (it points to a non-existing dir?)
09:38 alex_a rangi, kf: the result in staff: http://postimage.org/image/s7faahkiv/
09:37 rangi seems ok in master with marc21 .. so it might be specific to unimarc
09:37 rangi thats latest 3.8.x kf
09:36 rangi yeah i just tested master with marc21
09:36 kf Koha 3.0801002
09:36 kf so maybe very recent or only unimarc?
09:36 kf seems ok on the bywater test installation with marc21
09:36 hdl 3.8, not tested yet on master.
09:36 rangi id suspect css changes then
09:36 kf http://model.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=11363
09:35 alex_a rangi: broken in staff and opac
09:35 rangi and in master?
09:35 Herwig Hey all still stuck in finding a way to get the search engine running here ... if annyone got some tips ... i did what someone posted here yesterday but ... http://users.telenet.be/webwijzer/koha/10.JPG still in trouble ... but not giving up :P
09:35 hdl rangi: broken in both
09:34 kf looking in bywater's test installaton now
09:34 rangi alex_a: is it ok in staff? or broken in staff and opac?
09:33 mtj remove-nozebra-syspref++
09:33 hdl as far as i know
09:33 hdl kf was ok in 3.6
09:33 kf morning
09:33 Herwig Morning
09:31 kf looks ok there :(
09:31 kf that's 3.6.3
09:30 kf [off] https://seminar-weingarten.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=521
09:30 kf and there is a button to bring up the marc marc view :)
09:30 kf alex_a: I think in marc21 this is the "labelled marc view"
09:29 wahanui hmmm... no is failing unit tests
09:29 alex_a no ?
09:29 alex_a you should have marc view
09:29 alex_a plain marc view ?
09:29 kf or does this not exist for UNIMARC?
09:29 kf I am missing the plain marc view
09:28 kf itlooks wrong too
09:28 alex_a field
09:28 alex_a all subfields are grouped in one fields
09:28 alex_a yes
09:28 kf yeah, every time there is more than one of it?
09:28 alex_a kf: all multivalued fields :(
09:27 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
09:27 kf hm interesting
09:27 alex_a i have 2 fields 606 in marcxml
09:27 alex_a look at the 606 field
09:27 alex_a kf: http://catalogue.migrationinsarouen.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=85
09:25 wahanui which fields are associated with authority records.
09:25 kf and which fields?
09:25 kf alex_a: can you show a screenshot?
09:23 rangi hmm i havent encountered that yet
09:23 alex_a it's the first time i see that ...
09:22 alex_a All my multiple fields are grouped in one on staff or opac display using koha 3.8. has someone already encountered this problem?
09:20 rangi hard=had
09:20 rangi yes its hard the warning for a while now, no one reads it, so best to just kill it
09:20 * druthb celebrates the impending doom of NoZebra.
09:19 mtj ok, lets just kill the zebra/nozebra syspref, and have a big warning in the release-notes :)
09:18 druthb Hi, mtj! :D
09:18 mtj heya druthb :)
09:17 mtj yep, but the 'nozebra' syspref opt ion is still there right? to confuse peepz
09:17 druthb Naah. Up early-ish.
09:17 rangi ?
09:17 rangi working late
09:17 rangi hi druthb !
09:17 * mtompset nods, "killing is better."
09:17 rangi it doesnt work, theres no point even having it :)
09:17 druthb o/
09:16 rangi i think we should kill it good now
09:16 mtompset Actually, can we display it as "Zebra (depreciated)"? I know that's backwards... but the thing that was confusing is use setting for NO ZEBRA.
09:16 rangi well we did that already, its been marked as deprecated in release notes since 3.4
09:15 mtj and... hi #koha :)
09:15 mtj ... as a temporary measure, before deleting it completely
09:14 mtj i was thinking... should we rename the 'nozebra' syspref to 'nozebra (depreciated)' ?
09:13 * mtompset nods, "That no zebra stuff was confusing me for a bit too."
09:11 rangi we must remove all that no zebra stuff, its confusing another poor person
09:09 rangi git rules
09:09 rangi by doing a git stash apply
09:08 rangi and you will be back with the file, but you can get your changes back
09:08 rangi that will stash away your changes (which we have just marked as uncommitted)
09:08 wahanui git stash is for saving and restoring unstaged (and uncommited) changes.
09:08 rangi git stash
09:08 rangi that will reset it, then you can do
09:07 mtompset ah, okay.
09:07 mtompset one.
09:06 rangi yep
09:06 lamiette ah yeah, Kevin?
09:06 rangi lamiette: heya, just was talking to someone else who is at maharauk
09:06 rangi git reset HEAD^ if its one HEAD^2 etc
09:05 rangi how many commits ago is that mtompset ?
09:05 lamiette just saw your ping
09:05 mtompset I want to set it back to the not quite right version
09:05 lamiette rangi: you still about?
09:05 mtompset I already have a branch for bug_8175
09:04 rangi then yuo will be on a new branch with the files all at that point
09:04 rangi git checkout -b mybranch commitid
09:04 mtompset I'm new to git, so how do I do that?
09:04 rangi so find the commit from when you want to check it out
09:03 rangi you can checkout any commit
09:02 mtompset revert to the one that wasn't on my machine initially
09:01 mtompset um.... further back...
08:59 rangi git checkout filename
08:59 mtompset ^to^do^
08:59 mtompset how to I revert the one file back to original one?
08:58 mtompset Hmmm... perhaps you could help me.
08:57 rangi sounds good to me
08:57 Oak actually electricity will go out in 3 minutes..so I'll talk to you later ....
08:57 mtompset "Check for something in materials field fails in catalogue/details.pl"?
08:56 Oak kf what is you presentation about?
08:56 rangi mtompset++
08:56 rangi excellent
08:56 mtompset Okay... off to update the description, then put up a new patch.
08:55 rangi :)
08:55 rangi you are, but not without updating the description
08:55 mtompset That's true.
08:55 rangi it just helps people test properly, and helps the release notes
08:55 Oak mtompset++
08:55 mtompset I reported the bug... am I not allowed to creep? ;)
08:55 rangi cool thanks
08:55 mtompset Okay, I'll make that tweak to the bug description.
08:55 rangi like i say, its probably right, but its a change in what the bug was reported as
08:54 rangi so you should say that
08:54 rangi that isn't the same
08:54 rangi now you are making it check there is something that is not whitespace
08:54 mtompset But I do see what you are saying about scope creep.
08:54 rangi yes
08:54 mtompset hence the ne ''.
08:53 rangi so you should make sure you update the bug description to say that
08:53 mtompset actually, it was checking if there was something in the materials field.
08:53 mtompset Well...
08:53 rangi it might be right, but its definitely scope creep
08:53 rangi originally it was silencing a warn, now you are changing behaviour
08:52 rangi you're scope creeping :)
08:52 mtompset if materials_flag was always one you'd have a blank column, which is what the check is hoping to avoid.
08:51 mtompset a blank column is a blank column.
08:51 mtompset because I'm pretty sure the output doesn't care about " "
08:51 rangi hmm
08:51 Oak ah. hmm.
08:50 mtompset a defined() with a =~ /\S/
08:50 kf oh, needs lots more work today
08:50 Oak hello kf :) how does the presentation look?
08:50 rangi cool
08:50 mtompset Yep.
08:50 rangi the new patch?
08:50 mtompset I've got a patch. I'll attach it. It doesn't break the functionality.
08:49 rangi yep, the patch has changed the functionality, a warn in the logs is better than a regression
08:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Fines accruing on closed days
08:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8348 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , useDaysMode syspref does not apply
08:48 rangi i think bug 8348 is a duplicate of bug 8110
08:48 mtompset I was just wondering what you might have thought regarding Ian's comments. It merits a revision to the patch, correct?
08:47 mtompset Hi, rangi. You were the one who signed off the patch on 8175, right?
08:47 kf hm? I only saw he said hi
08:47 mtompset kf, how is it that you see Oak?
08:42 rangi lyon3++
08:41 rangi hi mtompset
08:40 kf hi Oak
08:39 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
08:17 Oak hello rangi ! :)
08:16 rangi hi Oak
08:15 Oak kia ora #koha
08:09 rangi lamiette: you about?
08:08 rangi heh
08:08 drojf1 it's a nice way to get awake
08:08 rangi drojf1++ #answering random questions on the mailing list
08:03 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (7:00 PM NZST on July 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
08:03 rangi @wunder nzwn
07:58 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.7°C (9:55 AM CEST on July 03, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:58 kf @wunder Konstanz
07:57 huginn drojf1: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 18.8°C (9:42 AM CEST on July 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:57 drojf1 @wunder berlin, germany
07:56 drojf1 hi kf and rangi
07:55 rangi hi drojf1
07:55 kf hi drojf
07:55 drojf1 crazy router
07:54 drojf1 and again
07:52 drojf1 good morning #koha
07:50 sophie_m Guten Tag kf
07:50 kf bonjour sophie_m
07:50 sophie_m hi rangi
07:50 rangi hi sophie_m
07:44 kf morning paul_p
07:37 paul_p (good evening rangi)
07:37 paul_p good morning #koha
07:37 rangi hi paul_p
07:25 * kf nods
07:25 rangi im just doing unmoderated
07:25 rangi yeah
07:25 kf so it would be a lot more work to implement that and I don't think people really want it
07:24 kf I think we don't allow comments without being logged in anyway right now
07:24 kf makes sense
07:23 rangi and make it say, allow unmoderated comments
07:22 rangi anyway, im gonna take this bug
07:22 rangi i resigned in march 2008
07:22 rangi i was working there then
07:21 rangi heh yeah
07:21 kf Joshua and I... ooold.
07:21 kf ah there it is
07:21 huginn 04Bug 1598: enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, NEW , Make OPAC reviews a comments system (like Flickr, YouTube, etc)
07:20 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1598
07:20 kf yep
07:20 rangi yeah never got made/pushed
07:19 kf look at the bug
07:19 kf yes, that sounds like you
07:19 rangi that sounds like me all right
07:19 kf lol
07:19 rangi Needs a script to delete a review and to approve one. Will work on this later (taking a break to watch rugby)
07:19 rangi Admin interface to approve reviews, not finished yet
07:19 kf oh
07:19 rangi Date: Sat Jun 17 04:26:38 2006 +0000
07:19 rangi Author: rangi <rangi>
07:19 rangi no the original code
07:19 kf notsure where the duplicate bug is it mentions
07:18 kf looks morelike frederic?
07:18 rangi lol
07:18 rangi Date: Sat Sep 3 00:05:40 2005 +0000
07:18 rangi Author: rangi <rangi>
07:18 rangi lol i wrote this crap
07:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1868 enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, RESOLVED MOVED, Comments in OPAC
07:17 kf bug 1868
07:17 rangi yeah a pref and and couple of lines in C4/Review.pm
07:17 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
07:17 kf hm interesting
07:16 kf I don't mind prefs too and I thin this one would make sense - but needs a patch :)
07:16 rangi i dont mind prefs, prefs are better than doing it any other way
07:16 kf I think that will need another pref :(
07:15 rangi right, those are bugs alright, but i still need to be able to create an unmoderated comment :)
07:15 kf but I still have to confirm that, was testing something else and ran out of time
07:15 kf edit a moderated comment - it will create a new comment
07:15 kf add a new comment, hit f5 - it will disappear
07:15 rangi the real problem for me is i cant turn moderation off
07:14 kf but what I saw is:
07:14 rangi hmm buggy in what way?
07:14 kf I have to retest and file a bug report
07:14 kf the problem is that comments are buggy right now
07:14 rangi darn
07:14 kf I think only for tags, but not entirely sure
07:13 rangi did we used to be able to turn moderation on reviews off? i thought we could?
07:13 kf good morning #koha
07:12 rangi hmmm
07:10 rangi hi gaetan_B
07:10 gaetan_B hello
06:55 rangi hi laurence
06:49 rangi hiya francharb
06:48 wahanui niihau, Judit1
06:48 Judit1 hi
06:47 francharb hello
06:41 cait lol
06:40 rangi useless facts i know that help win beer at pub quizzes
06:39 rangi or a rep in the house of congress either
06:38 rangi did you know DC doesnt have a senator?
06:36 rangi its all the same place
06:36 Judit1 fro some
06:36 rangi i think it might actually end up in somewhere in maryland (which is the state surrounding DC) but for us non usians
06:36 Judit1 i guess :)
06:36 Judit1 National Capital Region of the United States is ore impressive
06:36 alex_a s/then/than/
06:36 rangi hehe this is true :)
06:36 alex_a washington DC is shorter then National Capital Region of the United States :)
06:35 Judit1 only one washington d c
06:35 alex_a \o
06:35 Judit1 better
06:35 alex_a Washington D.C. ?
06:34 Judit1 there are more washingtons
06:34 alex_a it's Washington right ?
06:34 alex_a National Capital Region of the United States => why not just Washington ?
06:34 rangi from fmarier, quite a good write up
06:34 rangi http://blog.networksaremadeofstring.co.uk/2012/07/01/i-build-high-availability-platforms-so-cloud-is-not-for-me/
06:33 rangi hehe
06:31 Judit1 ah, just drink more
06:30 alex_a i will try to improve my english ...
06:30 alex_a rangi: :)
06:27 Judit1 in many ways
06:27 rangi beer always works
06:26 Judit1 :D
06:26 * cait thinks beer seemed to work too
06:25 rangi i promise to try to learn some french before next kohacon
06:24 rangi even if we have to communicate with sign language :-)
06:24 * rangi hopes he gets to hang out with alex_a again
06:22 rangi http://koha-community.org/kohacon-2013-voting-open/
06:22 cait KohaCon13 vote is http://survey.web2learning.net/limesurvey/index.php?sid=91534
06:22 rangi its on koha-community.org too
06:22 alex_a thx !
06:21 cait http://survey.web2learning.net/limesurvey/index.php?sid=91534
06:21 alex_a cait: Could you give me the link ? I will share with biblibre
06:21 alex_a :)
06:21 alex_a cait: where it is ?
06:21 cait alex_a: why not?
06:20 alex_a i didnt vote neither
06:18 alex_a hi rangi
06:18 Judit1 i am not going, so it is not fair to vote i guess
06:18 Judit1 vote
06:18 Judit1 i didnt
06:18 rangi i sure did
06:18 rangi you voted for kohacon13 yet?
06:17 Judit1 did you have fun at kohacon?
06:17 rangi hi alex_a and Judit1
06:14 alex_a salut cait
06:14 Judit1 hi all
06:14 cait hi alex_a and Judit1
06:14 Judit1 :)
06:14 alex_a bonjour
06:13 cait lol
06:12 rangi my bill is in the mail
06:10 rakesh3 :)
06:10 rakesh3 will contact u in the future if any prob occur'
06:10 rakesh3 thnx for all your guide
06:08 rakesh3 and there was a serious error that couldnt make "makefile.pl" for xxxxxxxxxxxxx.tar.gz
06:07 rakesh3 ok
06:07 rangi if you install with cpan, you need to watch the bug trackers of all the modules to make sure you upgrade when you need to
06:07 rakesh3 okk
06:07 rangi that way you get them upgraded for security etc
06:06 rakesh3 kk i will install through ubuntu aptitude'
06:06 rakesh3 bcause i tried to install koha earlier on ubuntu desktop and it worked like a charm
06:06 rangi whats a problem is not using the ubuntu packaged versions of the modules
06:06 rangi no
06:05 rakesh3 and i would like to ask u that i ve installed the 12.04 version of ubuntu server does that make a problem?
06:05 rakesh3 kk
06:04 rangi dont install from cpan, for anything
06:04 rangi 17:46 <@rangi> sudo apt-get install libxml-libxslt-perl
06:04 rangi 17:44 <@rangi> rakesh1: dont install it from cpan
06:03 rakesh3 and secong goes the rror it says install seems impossible
06:03 rakesh3 srry makefile.pl
06:02 rakesh3 1st is the makefiel error
06:02 rakesh3 it gives me two errors
06:02 rakesh3 my prob is that i get error while installing XML:LibXSLT via cpan
05:57 rakesh3 any 1?
05:56 rakesh3 rakesh, rakesh1, rakesh2 actually my internet disconnects
05:55 rakesh3 same person
05:55 rakesh3 hi any 1 there?
05:47 rangi sudo apt-get install libxml-libxslt-perl
05:45 rangi rakesh1: dont install it from cpan
05:45 rangi and for 12.04 they all are
05:45 rakesh1 how to solve that
05:45 rakesh1 make cannot install and test
05:45 rakesh1 package it also says install impossible moreover gives 1 more error that cannot make "makefile.pl"
05:45 rangi you should only ever use cpan if the file is not packaged in ubuntu
05:45 rangi do that from packages too
05:44 rakesh1 and secondly the error also comes in installing XML::Libxslt
05:43 rakesh1 i will try that
05:43 rakesh1 kk
05:43 rangi sudo apt-get install libnet-z3950-zoom-perl
05:43 rakesh1 plz guide how to install it through the ubuntu package method
05:41 cait it makes your life a looo teasier
05:41 rakesh1 how to do that plz guide'
05:41 cait you should
05:41 rakesh1 no ive not tried ti use the ubuntu packages
05:41 rakesh1 ya
05:41 rangi 17:32 <@rangi> not use the ubuntu packages?
05:41 rangi 17:32 <@rangi> why would you do that?
05:41 rangi 17:32 < rakesh> i am doing it in cpan
05:41 rangi 17:32 < rakesh> no, ive done install net:Z3950:zoom
05:41 rangi the same people as last time you asked
05:40 rakesh1 hi any 1 there?
05:34 rangi not use the ubuntu packages?
05:34 rangi why would you do that?
05:33 rakesh i am doing it in cpan
05:33 rakesh no, ive done install net:Z3950:zoom
05:31 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_SIP2_server_setup
05:31 rangi and for sip2
05:31 rangi rakesh: doing sudo apt-get install libnet-z3950-zoom-perl ?
05:30 rakesh it says installation seems impossible
05:30 rakesh i am facing error in installing perl dependencies for koha, ubuntu version is 12.04, namely Net::Z3950::ZOOM
05:28 rakesh Hi
05:28 mtompset sip2?
05:28 * mtompset doesn't know the answer. :(
05:25 rakesh any one there?
05:24 rakesh Hi
05:10 mib_x2j5y8 dear friends how can installed and use koha SIP2 please help me ......
05:07 mib_x2j5y8 hi dear all of you i am pankaj i am use koha 3.8 and i want to installed SIP2 .
04:30 mib_5tfxyk ok
04:29 * mtompset doesn't know the answer. :(
03:55 mib_5tfxyk please let me know script to get checkin report in date range
03:54 wahanui what's up, mib_5tfxyk
03:54 mib_5tfxyk hello
03:51 vkm in koha report library there is no such script or let me know any trick to get the above report please
03:50 vkm may i know a script to get checkin report in a date range
03:50 vkm hello all
03:40 mtompset Greetings, Judit1
03:30 wahanui privet, Judit1
03:30 Judit1 hi
03:21 mtompset Greetings, #koha.