Time Nick Message
23:50 jcamins_away Hm. Is there a good reason why /var/spool/koha/$instance/ belongs to root and not $instance-koha?
23:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6350 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking updates to the history file
23:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8311 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Mis-scoped function call in C4::Auth
23:20 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 6350 (history.txt) fixing typo
23:20 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 : Updating history
23:20 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8311: Fix scoping error in C4::Auth
23:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #78: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/78/
22:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #78 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha
22:27 jenkins_koha mtj: Bug 8315 - fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha
22:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #77: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/77/
22:14 magnuse see you guys in 3 weeks time!
22:14 * magnuse calls it a summer
22:08 * jcamins calls it a day.
22:06 jcamins What if they find a book they are interested in while browsing another library's catalog?
22:06 jcamins I'm not sure I like the idea of not allowing anonymous users to send carts.
22:01 jcamins Agreed.
22:01 rangi and not something i want to slip in, mid cycle
22:01 rangi which is a big behaviour change
22:01 rangi more because it makes it impossible to send a cart without being logged in
22:01 rangi not because of that
22:00 rangi hmm not sure wether to push it to 3.8.x or not
22:00 jcamins And it's an MS thing, so they probably wouldn't make sense anyway.
21:59 rangi :)
21:59 rangi so there probably arent any actual rules
21:59 rangi thats become a defacto standard
21:58 rangi yep, its some MS thing, that they introduced to hotmail in 99
21:58 * jcamins _has_ noticed that behavior on other websites, though.
21:57 jcamins In that case it would be wrong.
21:57 jcamins Hm.
21:57 rangi its of the client connecting to the mailserver, not the browser connecting to a website
21:57 rangi its supposed to be of the client, the client is the webserver
21:56 jcamins I've noticed that on sites I've used.
21:56 jcamins Yes.
21:55 rangi im just wondering if it is usual or even expected practice to set the ip of the originating email, to not be where it originated, but the ip of some user who is using the website instead
21:55 jcamins There we go.
21:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6800 major, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Koha authentication should handle proxies better
21:55 jcamins Bug 6800.
21:55 huginn jcamins: No results for "handle proxies."
21:55 jcamins @query handle proxies
21:54 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5511 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, amit.gupta, Failed QA , Check for Change in Remote IP address for Session Security. Disable when remote ip address changes frequently.
21:54 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3068 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Auth.pm: IP address matching overly generous
21:54 jcamins @query remote ip
21:54 huginn jcamins: No results for "reverse proxy."
21:54 jcamins @query reverse proxy
21:54 jcamins Hm.
21:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7400 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Add auto-completion on auth_finder
21:54 jcamins Bug 7400?
21:54 jcamins Hm.
21:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7800 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/matching-rules.pl plack scoping
21:54 jcamins No, that's correct to the extent that it can be correct given that I don't think my patch for bug 7800 ever made it.
21:53 rangi and its gonna be things like proxies or all sorts of other things
21:53 rangi thats putting the ip of the user, not the mailserver that send the mail
21:52 rangi i dont think thats right
21:52 rangi + 'X-Orig-IP' => $ENV{'REMOTE_ADDR'},
21:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3280 normal, P3, ---, semarie-koha, Pushed to Master , opac/opac-sendbasket.pl security leaky
21:51 rangi bug 3280
21:51 rangi hmm
21:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8311 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Mis-scoped function call in C4::Auth
21:47 jcamins Bug 8311
21:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #77 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:26 rangi thanks :)
21:26 melia I'll try and find out what albert is talking about on monday.
21:25 melia yes. makes no sense to me either.
21:24 rangi but albert added something about even and odd .. which makes no sense to me, so i didnt close it
21:24 rangi from the name its a duplicate
21:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8087 normal, P2, ---, henridamien, NEW , Calendar not working in dropbox mode
21:24 rangi if you could look at bug 8087
21:23 melia_lunch yay! thank you so much
21:13 rangi melia_lunch: patch attached
20:23 mbalmer just missed him...
20:22 mbalmer ha!
20:22 mveron Good night everybody :-)
19:43 cait not sure it will be any help :)
19:43 mveron cait: Thanks :-)
19:42 mveron cait: Yes. signed off by Chris, then see comments 17, 18, 19
19:41 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
19:41 cait @later tell sekjal could you please take a look at bug 7563? Lots of rebasing done already - would be good to see that moving forward :)
19:40 tcohen can't belive someone took it
19:39 tcohen i love that feature mveron!
19:39 cait is it waitin gfor qa?
19:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7563 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Silent print slips using Firefox PlugIn jsPrintSetup and new staff client preference
19:39 * mveron has rebased Bug 7563 for the nth time...
19:32 cait maximep++
19:32 cait :)
19:32 maximep yay @Â me for my first patch in months
19:26 tcohen (i was talking about real tennis this time :-P)
19:26 tcohen but I really play *real* tennis
19:26 tcohen Oak: I play top spin 4 :-P
19:21 maximep oops, squashed all of them instead of leaving one. it's friday after all -_-
19:19 liw (several times)
19:19 maximep yeah I did too haha
19:19 * jcamins too.
19:19 * liw learned that the hard way
19:19 jcamins Right, that's a good idea.
19:19 maximep sure
19:19 liw maximep, do a new branch of your branch, then rebase the one -- that way, if you make a mistake in the rebasing, you can easily go back
19:18 jcamins maximep: nope.
19:18 maximep is there an easier way than a rebase -i ?
19:17 cait that's not so bad, keep smiling :)
19:17 maximep well then it's time to squash commits -_-
19:17 jcamins git diff is pretty much useless.
19:17 jcamins git format-patch.
19:17 maximep hmmm I forgot... do I have to do a git format-patch or is a git diff in a .patch enough ?
19:16 cait maximep: woohoo :)
19:15 jcamins maximep: woohoo!
19:13 maximep yay, time to upgrade to 3.8 and send a ton of patches to the community. This should be fun =)
19:09 Oak like, real tennis?
19:07 tcohen mmm, think of levaing to play some tennis :-D
19:07 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 22.0°C (3:00 PM ART on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
19:07 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
19:07 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 31.0°C (12:00 AM PKT on June 30, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling).
19:06 Oak @wunder islamabad
19:06 tcohen jcamins: collapsed/!collapsed seems to work deterministicaly
19:06 Oak others
19:05 Oak druthb
19:05 Oak i mean Brooke is not here
19:05 cait jcamins: i agree with your experience
19:05 wahanui not everyone is youtubing at this time of day
19:05 Oak not everyone
19:05 jcamins Oak!
19:05 Oak good to see everyone :)
19:05 cait hi Oak
19:05 wahanui i guess jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins
19:05 Oak jcamins!
19:04 Oak_afk magnuse
19:04 Oak_afk cait!
19:03 jcamins At least, that's been my experience.
19:03 jcamins And there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to when it works and when it doesn't.
19:03 jcamins But sometimes it doesn't.
19:03 jcamins Well, sometimes it does.
19:03 jcamins tcohen: no, it doesn't work for those three things I listed either.
19:02 tcohen so, it works, but is not well documented
19:02 jcamins So basically it is the cataloging module and expanded MARC views only.
19:01 jcamins And it's not used for the raw MARC view.
19:01 jcamins Rather, it's not used for any non-MARC view.
19:01 jcamins tcohen: it's not used in regular mode at all.
19:01 tcohen ciat = cait
19:01 tcohen http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/catadmin.html#marcbibframeworks
19:01 tcohen ciat: but OPAC / Intranet / Collapsed seem to be the options, so its confusing
19:00 * cait goes to watch a documentaton about cake
19:00 cait :)
19:00 cait ok... I think too much
19:00 cait only the marc views
19:00 cait not used by the normal view too I think
18:59 cait I think
18:59 cait no it never was supposed to
18:58 tcohen what's actually the problem with hidden? i guess it is not used by the XSLT's
18:53 SJeffery More work on the cataloging module interface would be awesome:)
18:50 cait it always get to you in the end
18:50 cait ...
18:50 cait yeah, but now I have to teach cataloging in less than 2 weeks
18:49 * jcamins thinks that is a good choice.
18:48 cait libraries are using the union catalog software and only do basic cataloging in Koha
18:48 * jcamins was wrong.
18:48 chris_n in case anyone gets really curious
18:48 * jcamins thought he'd redo the cataloging module about a year and a half ago by building on pianohacker's work.
18:48 chris_n https://github.com/cnighswonger/koha-wip/commits/marc_editor
18:48 cait because we hardly use the module
18:48 cait I am not a cataloging expert
18:48 cait ah ok
18:47 jcamins Unfortunately, it doesn't provide an architecture to build on. :(
18:47 jcamins cait: I looked at that.
18:47 cait maybe as a starting point?
18:47 chris_n cait: a total rewrite does appear best and what you've suggested is the basic approach I was taking
18:47 cait in bugzila
18:47 cait there is a rebased patch from piano hacker i think
18:46 jcamins cait: yeah, that would be the way to go, but even that would take too much work to be a weekend project.
18:46 chris_n and subject to radical changes with no notice or even less
18:46 * chris_n has started some work, but it is very early and very pre-alpha
18:45 cait add another basic editor and enhance step by step?
18:45 cait i think this could be a way of doing it
18:45 cait I think there is a patch for an alternative editor
18:45 drojf heh
18:45 cait drojf: good summary I gues
18:44 jcamins drojf: other than chris_n. ;)
18:44 drojf either we have libraries sponsor it or we have libraries complain so much to vendors that they change it. nobody touched that "for fun" and nobody ever will i suppose.
18:43 jcamins SJeffery: I think it's probably a ~$20k problem, though that's just a guess off the top of my head.
18:42 drojf more than one opinion is problems ;)
18:42 SJeffery I hate when people say "a really large amount of money" in reference to Koha development. What constitutes a large amount varies by the library
18:42 nengard :)
18:42 nengard well I'm willing to devote a "really large amount of opinions"
18:42 * chris_n could use another one of himself, but is not sure he could live with another one of himself ;-)
18:42 jcamins nengard: by "*really* interested" I meant "willing to devote a very large amount of money to the problem."
18:41 nengard well i'm an interested librarian
18:41 jcamins However, I'm thinking having two chris_ns working on the MARC editor might be necessary.
18:41 nengard hehe
18:41 jcamins cait: so one can do chris_n's job, and the other can work on the MARC editor.
18:41 cait I was thiking about cloning you :)
18:40 cait why a second chris_n?
18:40 cait heh
18:40 jcamins Maybe a third as well.
18:40 * jcamins considers.
18:40 jcamins And a second chris_n. :)
18:40 jcamins SJeffery: agreed. We just need a coalition of libraries that's *really* interested in the problem.
18:40 SJeffery Sounds like someone should de-integrate it:)
18:39 jcamins cait: less bolted on.
18:39 jcamins cait: I'm not surprised.
18:39 cait that's insane
18:39 cait and have you noticed that the hidden works much nicer for authorities?
18:39 nengard too much to change
18:39 nengard Frameworks are way way way too integrated
18:39 cait I have to agree with nengard on that
18:39 nengard don't have the skills to do that
18:39 drojf its free software, change what you dont like :P
18:38 nengard tcohen - i've been complaining about that for years now
18:37 jcamins Unfortunately, it only works randomly.
18:37 tcohen mad librarians are talking about too much noise in the frameworks
18:37 jcamins It's documented in the manual.
18:37 jcamins tcohen: right, you set that using hidden.
18:37 tcohen but I want the field to appear, its just that i want it collapsed by default
18:37 drojf hm
18:36 huginn drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
18:36 drojf @wunder nuuk, greenland
18:36 jcamins tcohen: even odds that it will help, though.
18:36 huginn drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
18:36 drojf @wunder nuuk
18:36 drojf so its hot everywhere…
18:36 jcamins tcohen: hidden.
18:36 nengard hidden
18:36 nengard hi tcohen
18:36 tcohen what was the field for setting a field to be collapsed in the frameworks?
18:36 nengard over here I know the concern is that a lot of people in the city don't have air conditioning - so the elderly and children are at risk when it gets this hot
18:36 tcohen hi nengard
18:35 nengard I noticed that
18:35 nengard hehe
18:35 SJeffery Lol, you get to my temps and it is an "excessive heat warning", but for us it iis just another day
18:35 * jcamins will keep the 34degree weather.
18:35 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.1°C (1:33 PM CDT on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM CDT this evening...
18:35 jcamins @wunder lawrence, ks
18:35 SJeffery It is supposed to be 110 here today:(
18:34 huginn SJeffery: The current temperature in Ironwood Hill/Grannen Rd., Tucson, Arizona is 38.7°C (11:30 AM MST on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
18:34 SJeffery @wunder 85705
18:34 cait feels much warmer out there
18:34 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 26.9°C (8:30 PM CEST on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
18:34 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:32 jcamins It's plenty hot here.
18:32 jcamins Yikes.
18:32 nengard negative?
18:31 chris_n its supposed to be ~41*C here tomorrow and Sunday
18:31 * drojf needs to put some scottish ale in the fridge
18:31 mveron :-)
18:31 nengard :)
18:31 * nengard had some already
18:31 * mveron needs some Ice Cream
18:30 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Pankow, Weissensee, Germany is 29.2°C (8:29 PM CEST on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
18:30 nengard guess the heat is going south :)
18:30 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
18:30 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 33.9°C (2:02 PM EDT on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening...
18:30 jcamins @wunder 11375
18:30 nengard :(
18:30 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Highland Park, Levittown, Pennsylvania is 37.8°C (2:29 PM EDT on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM EDT Sunday...
18:30 * chris_n cracks a few eggs on the sidewalk
18:30 nengard @wunder 19030
18:29 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Basel, Switzerland is 30.7°C (8:25 PM CEST on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
18:29 mveron @wunder Allschwil
18:29 huginn chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 39.0°C (2:15 PM EDT on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 6 am EDT Saturday...
18:29 chris_n @wunder 28334
18:27 mveron Thanks :-)
18:26 cait mveron++ indeed :)
18:26 jcamins mveron++
18:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8335 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Missing Icon PR.png or typo in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl
18:26 mveron Bug 8335 done, using file music.png form http://famfamfam.com/lab/icons/
17:59 jcamins So is IT law.
17:58 cait I am sure it is
17:54 jcamins :D
17:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
17:54 * jcamins waves enthusiastically to cait, and comments on just how incredibly cool bug 2060 is. :)
17:50 jcamins mveron: yup.
17:49 mveron jcamins: OK, will do... :-) It is about music notes on paper, yes?
17:49 drojf heh
17:49 jcamins mveron: pick your favorite score-y icon from http://famfamfam.com/lab/icons/ :)
17:48 slef bbl
17:48 slef biab
17:48 slef or see if you can see one from http://famfamfam.com/lab/icons/ to use
17:47 drojf :)
17:46 jcamins drojf: good law. :)
17:46 jcamins slef: agreed.
17:46 drojf well, it is now, and i call it drojfs law
17:45 drojf is it maybe more safe to assume that when using 856 subfields a, d, f AND subfield u, the url in $u and the url i can construct from ind.1+ a + d + f would be the same?
17:44 slef jcamins: looks like an error to me...
17:43 * jwagner dives back into OPAC customizations :-(
17:43 slef jcamins: check out the date bgkriegel added it and see if it existed in the tree at that time?
17:41 drojf i knew that would be the answer :D
17:41 jcamins slef: yeah, I don't see any sign of it either.
17:41 jcamins drojf: with catalogers, there are no safe assumptions. ;)
17:41 drojf is it safe to assume that when a cataloguer uses 856$u, s/he would include a possible user/password string right into that url and not (only) into subfields h/l and k?
17:41 slef Pattern not found
17:40 wahanui i guess searching is not working
17:40 slef jcamins: searching...
17:40 jcamins Which makes me think there must have been a PR.png at that time.
17:39 jcamins bgkriegel specifically added PR.
17:39 slef MU is a speaker, AR is a little book
17:39 jcamins slef: maybe PR.png was deleted recently?
17:39 slef unless we go with AR.png
17:38 slef MU.png looks like closest we have
17:38 jcamins jwagner: that seems a very logical thing to call it. I wonder where PR came from, and what happened to that file.
17:37 jwagner I show that combo labelled Score
17:37 * jwagner perks up ears
17:36 jcamins Yeah... something to do with sheet music.
17:36 slef d - Manuscript notated music
17:36 slef c - Notated music
17:36 huginn jcamins: unknown tag 000
17:36 jcamins @marc 000
17:36 wahanui marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html
17:36 slef marc21?
17:35 huginn jcamins: unknown tag ldr
17:35 jcamins @marc ldr
17:35 huginn slef: unknown tag LDR
17:35 slef @marc LDR
17:35 huginn slef: unknown tag leader
17:35 slef @marc leader
17:35 slef test="$leader6='c' or $leader6='d'"
17:35 jcamins Maybe jwagner or cait would know... I seem to recall them both talking about sheet music at some point.
17:34 jcamins Not sure what PR would stand for.
17:34 jcamins Some sort of music.
17:32 jcamins slef: yes.
17:32 slef aren't periodicals CR for Continuing Resource?
17:32 mveron Do not know...
17:31 jcamins Periodical?
17:31 jcamins What does PR stand for?
17:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8335 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Missing Icon PR.png or typo in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl
17:30 * mveron stumbled over missing file PR.png, see Bug 8335
17:30 * mveron ponders if someone can stumble oveer soething that does not exist?
17:25 jcamins (and this is why using dev installs in production is a bad idea!)
17:24 jcamins It's easy to overlook when using dev installs.
17:24 nengard Yeah, that's what we're thinking
17:24 nengard hehe
17:24 jcamins nengard: Zebra config wasn't updated?
17:14 nengard oops - wrong window :) hehe
17:14 nengard MT 2763 can anyone think of why suppression wouldn't be working?
17:09 mveron Hi #koha
16:53 * slef reviews
16:53 jcamins Right.
16:53 slef jcamins: and presuably why packages of 3.8.x aren't building at the moment?
16:52 jcamins slef: that's the patch for making packages cope with the DOM indexing.
16:52 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records
16:51 slef @query zebra-biblios-dom.cfg
16:33 * jcamins considers adding another section to the administration module.
16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Use T::T date plugin to display dates omnibus
16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6350 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking updates to the history file
16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8217 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Focus on search box in Detail page (staff search)
16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8318 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , update StatisticsFields description
16:25 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 7444: Update circ/circulation.pl to use KohaDates TT Plugin"
16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3280 normal, P3, ---, semarie-koha, Pushed to Master , opac/opac-sendbasket.pl security leaky
16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8311 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Mis-scoped function call in C4::Auth
16:25 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 6350 (history.txt) fixing typo
16:25 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 : Updating history
16:25 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8217: Followup: move code to the document.ready function
16:25 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 8318: Update StatisticsFields preference language
16:25 jenkins_koha * semarie-koha: Bug 3280 Restrict Send basket feature
16:25 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8311: Fix scoping error in C4::Auth
16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6557 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , biblioitems.totalissues unused
16:25 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6557 follow-up UNIMARC 942$0 in default french frameworks
16:25 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6557 follow-up DBRev number
16:25 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 6557: Record bib popularity in totalissues
16:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #770: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/770/
16:24 jwagner sorry, wrong screen :-(
16:24 jwagner It's sporadic and not reproducible, but it's too much to be user error or a stuck keyboard
16:24 jwagner cfouts, one other pivotal that came back up -- can you take a look at https://www.pivotaltracker.com/story/show/22673905?
16:12 gaetan_B bye !
15:53 jcamins It may one day come to the point where I actually have to buy the MSDN OS collection (ugh!), but we're putting that off as long as possible.
15:51 jcamins slef: if I ever have a Windows installation that works, I'll try again.
15:50 slef jcamins: I'd need to wait for an OCLC-using client to report back again :-/
15:50 jcamins slef: it doesn't actually work with Connexion client.
15:50 jcamins slef: not the follow-up.
15:50 slef 7613 is in master now isn't it?
15:49 jcamins slef: you should sign off on bug 7613. I would like to, but couldn't get Connexion to start.
15:49 eythian it's what I deploy on
15:49 eythian yeah
15:49 Waylon "Debian squeeze 64 bit is the most common Koha OS, the most supported." yes?
15:48 eythian It was like a whole new world.
15:48 jcamins Waylon: if they do want to go with LibLime's Koha, jwagner can probably put them in touch with the sales people.
15:48 eythian Then I showed him the proper website
15:48 eythian I was talking to a maybe-client who said he had done a bit of digging around about Koha, and couldn't see much sign of documentation or community or anything.
15:48 drojf they just googled koha :(
15:47 Waylon i swear, if they move to liblimes branch, i quit working for them.
15:47 jcamins eythian: terribly ironic, even..
15:47 slef didn't KVM beat Xen yet? ;)
15:47 * jcamins doesn't know what xcp is, but as long as you are working on Koha and not LibLime's fork you should... survive, anyway.
15:47 eythian it would be terrible :)
15:47 drojf Waylon: going from pre 3.0 with lots of local changes to liblime fork would be ironic ;)
15:47 Waylon VM host
15:47 Waylon XCP, Xen Cloud Platform.
15:47 * Waylon cringes.
15:47 slef xcp?
15:47 Waylon okay, so sysadmin wants to bare metal the koha servers, no xcp.
15:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib
15:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6460 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, januszop, RESOLVED FIXED, No log generated if Action set to All or Modify or Delete
15:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, In Discussion , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout
15:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7717 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Multiple Identical Holds
15:46 slef bug 7717 and bug 7494 and bug 6460 and bug 7613
15:45 jcamins Good night.
15:45 eythian later
15:45 mtompset Thanks for the help and feedback guys.
15:45 mtompset anyways... good day (24 hour period)
15:45 eythian Yeah, it's summer in Europe, winter at home.
15:45 mtompset Ah.
15:45 jcamins He's in Europe, actually. Visiting satellite offices, I think. :)
15:44 mtompset So why is a NZ in the US?
15:44 jcamins mtompset: New Zealand's.
15:44 jcamins Waylon: no, it isn't. That LibLime's fork.
15:43 mtompset What timezone is he normally in?
15:43 Waylon what the.... sysadmin writes back.. latest koha version is 4.10?!
15:43 mtompset That's probably something I'll submit next week.
15:43 jcamins eythian: it's really bizarre having you in this time zone.
15:42 eythian having two ids the same is doubleplusungood anyway
15:42 mtompset YES!
15:42 jcamins :)
15:42 jcamins *Then* you do the styling with CSS.
15:42 mtompset exactly.
15:42 jcamins Okay, a patch will be required to change one of those ids.
15:42 mtompset that's the CSS.
15:42 mtompset How do you distinguish between login and login?!
15:42 jcamins You should just use CSS.
15:41 mtompset So, I don't want it messing up my menu bar at the top.
15:41 jcamins You don't need to patch the code for that.
15:41 mtompset I want to lay out my login screen custom.
15:41 mtompset But one thing I really want to change is the staff client "login" div AFTER login.
15:40 jcamins That would be a good idea.
15:40 mtompset I should probably do a diff -r against 3.6.3 and our 3.6.3 to see if I made any other changes I forgot to bug report.
15:39 jcamins Yup.
15:39 mtompset And now, I can submit patches with bug reports in the future. :)
15:38 jcamins I must give it to you, that was impressive.
15:38 jcamins lol
15:38 mtompset But you can't stop a good coding run.
15:38 jcamins Yes, you should've.
15:38 mtompset It's 11:37pm here. I should have gone to bed earlier.
15:38 mtompset I'll just leave it then.
15:37 jcamins (this is good news... up until five minutes ago I thought we were going to be remodeling the bathroom)
15:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 7444: Update circ/circulation.pl to use KohaDates TT Plugin" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0923e96cb4a9684db7c777866e9c822522f49a72> / bug 6350 (history.txt) fixing typo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7462effa91c82502a9e26d5953859eb8836c7698> / Bug 6350 : Updating history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d3c51e1
15:36 * jcamins is frazzled... he has an unusable shower which he only just found out does not have to be replaced.
15:36 jcamins Wait... that's not what the example was.
15:36 jcamins That's what I mean.
15:36 jcamins Yes.
15:36 jcamins However, yes, you should go ahead and close the bug report you just asked about, because it is working now even without your patch.
15:36 mtompset you mean $key=> value if $key.
15:35 jcamins ^^ you can use that instead of the params(key => $value) if $value;
15:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #770 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
15:35 huginn jcamins: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011)
15:35 jcamins @quote get 135
15:35 huginn jcamins: 2 found: #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} -..." and #82: "<pianohack> nengard: If you were using a..."
15:35 jcamins @quote search typo
15:34 jcamins Actually, it might not be there.
15:34 wahanui coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines
15:34 jcamins coding guidelines?
15:34 jcamins Actually, there's an easier way to fix this problem in the future:
15:34 jcamins Got it.
15:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7352 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, moremember.pl generates error in Template.pm related to missing $key value
15:33 mtompset I think I documented some other cases on bug 7352.
15:32 mtompset i.e. a warn statement versus bad code.
15:32 mtompset generated by that patch, intentionally to prevent a NASTY error.
15:31 mtompset There is an error...
15:31 mtompset Okay... let me try...
15:31 jcamins If the error isn't appearing anymore, you should go ahead and close the bug with a message something along the lines of "working in latest master."
15:31 mtompset Au revoir, paul_p.
15:30 paul_p time to go back home. see you on monday guys !
15:30 * jcamins was confused.
15:30 jcamins Okay.
15:30 mtompset YES.
15:30 jcamins Oh, you're saying the code that fixes 6840 is already in master?
15:30 mtompset but the code for 6840 is already live.
15:30 jcamins You should change the assignment on that bug to you, and then once 7630 is closed, we can test it, and close both.
15:29 jcamins Right, therefore, bug 6840 should not be closed yet.
15:29 mtompset I know. I just did it. :P
15:28 jcamins The patch for bug 7630 hasn't been pushed yet.
15:28 mtompset And now... after that most excellent coding run...
15:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7630 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Warning on moremember.pl about param without key
15:28 mtompset bug 7630 deals with his issues, I think.
15:28 mtompset I think Fred P was confused.
15:27 mtompset The code is already live.
15:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6840 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , error in Template.pm in logs
15:27 mtompset Oh, and since I think you changed the status of bug 6840 jcamins, perhaps you could read through the commentary and decide if it really needs to be assigned at all.
15:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8192 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Update libraries and Missing library in install_misc/ubuntu.packages
15:24 mtompset Well, that means that bug and bug 8192 are the only one's of mine outstanding.
15:23 mtompset I already quoted you in the comment I put. :)
15:21 jcamins I think it might be.
15:21 mtompset Wasn't someone saying update.pl is old?
15:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8200 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , /home/chris/git/koha.git in /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/update.pl
15:21 mtompset bug 8200
15:15 eythian yeah
15:14 mtompset Okay... I thought of adding defined... but I realized a drop the ne is better.
15:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8175 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Missing defined check in catalogue/details.pl
15:14 mtompset bug 8175
15:13 jcamins And remove a warning.
15:13 eythian it'll also improve error handling in corner cases that'll probably never come up anyway
15:13 mtompset Okay... that will be my patch.
15:12 jcamins I agree.
15:12 jcamins Yup.
15:12 mtompset I was thinking no need for ne.
15:12 eythian by dropping off the ne ''
15:12 jcamins That's... awful.
15:12 eythian that could be made nicer
15:12 eythian oh
15:12 eythian it might be worth putting a sample into a pastbin
15:12 mtompset if ($item->{'materials'} ne ''){
15:11 mtompset what's your take on line 264 of catalogue/details.pl
15:11 mtompset I was thinking...
15:11 mtompset okay...
15:06 eythian "resolved" doesn't mean "fixed", "fixed" means that :)
15:06 reiveune bye
15:05 eythian it's saying "this one is resolved so ignore it, look over there for the real happenings"
15:05 jcamins It's a duplicate.
15:05 jcamins That's what it is.
15:05 jcamins Yes, RESOLVED/DUPLICATE.
15:05 mtompset I don't like that.
15:05 mtompset but duplicate puts it to RESOLVED.
15:04 eythian then you can use the "duplicate" status
15:04 mtompset Okay,,, what if one of the bugs I think is a duplicate?
15:03 jcamins ^^ see that page
15:03 wahanui i heard bug workflow was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow
15:03 jcamins bug workflow?
15:03 wahanui eythian: sorry...
15:03 eythian wahanui: as you were then
15:03 eythian oh right
15:03 wahanui ...but bug workflow is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow...
15:03 eythian wahanui: bug workflow is <reply>http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow
15:02 jcamins Anyone can do that. :)
15:01 jcamins Yeah, you're saying "there's a patch that needs to be tested."
15:01 jcamins You'll need to change the status of each of those bugs to "Needs signoff," or no one will know to look at them.
15:01 mtompset I'm the reporter.
15:01 mtompset Should have I changed the status?
15:01 mtompset I attached them to the bug reports.
15:00 jcamins Did you mark them "needs signoff"?
15:00 jcamins mtompset: well done!
14:59 mtompset Three patches, jcamins. :)
14:44 * slef wanders off, muttering into his beard
14:44 slef I think I'll have to test this on a live server :-/
14:44 slef it's module "claim serial issue" not module "serial"
14:43 slef ah no I see
14:43 slef hrm
14:43 slef might be CLAIM ISSUE
14:42 slef claimissues?
14:41 slef yengh... what's the code for the serial claims notice? I need it to test something
14:40 mtompset a simple \ was the fix for one of them.
14:40 mtompset It's not like these are HUGE!
14:40 mtompset I want my bugs to get pushed and closed!
14:39 magnuse mtompset++
14:34 mtompset And I'm working on my third.
14:34 mtompset And I've generated a second...
14:24 drojf mtompset: congratulations
14:15 mtompset YAY! I generated my first patch.
14:15 mtompset Hi, matts.
14:05 mtompset I think I got it.
13:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6557 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , biblioitems.totalissues unused
13:59 paul_p bug 6557 pushed, but some work still needed...
13:59 mtompset Okay... so, I do I post the patch as an attachment to bugzilla?
13:46 mtompset whew! changing it back gives a blank git diff.
13:43 mtompset I forgot to create the branch.
13:43 mtompset oh shoot!
13:39 mtompset patron search..
13:39 mtompset Okay... confirmed error.
13:37 mtompset Enjoy your weekend... I just want to get a patch.
13:37 kf ok, time to start the weekend :) bye all!
13:36 kf using the files from the koha-dev directory
13:36 kf it should work
13:36 mtompset YES!
13:36 kf that's good
13:36 mtompset git diff shows nothing.
13:36 mtompset nope... just failed to restart to point it to the right place.
13:35 mtompset AH! ... let me check... I probably missed a softlink.
13:34 * mtompset sighs a big sigh of relief.
13:34 mtompset I restarted apache... works now.
13:33 mtompset I can't get to the staff client, because has the _DB_HOST_ stuff.
13:32 kf can you specify something?
13:32 kf 1 lives under git, the other does not
13:32 mtompset BUT... something is still pointing to kohaclone.
13:32 kf you shoudl end up with 2 directories
13:31 drojf kf: thanks, the grouping should do
13:31 kf yes
13:31 mtompset there are koha-dev files.
13:31 mtompset did the perl makefile, make, make test, make install.
13:31 kf and there are files outside of kohaclone
13:31 kf we could try to help you
13:31 kf if you could give more informatoin
13:31 kf ?
13:30 mtompset Something somewhere still thinks it isn't kohaclone.
13:30 * mtompset cries, "Why?! Oh why?!"
13:29 kf z3950NormalizeAuthor is another example
13:28 kf and if you have a separate syspref to turn it on and others, maybe leaving some empty might work to turn off?
13:28 kf drojf: look at the syntax for AltenrateHoldingsField maybe?
13:27 kf drojf: let me try and find an example?
13:26 kf you could perhaps group them
13:26 kf oh
13:23 kf hm what are the names of your prefs?
13:20 drojf renaming the sysprefs means changing the db also :(
13:20 drojf no they dont :( i thought so too
13:20 kf I thought they sorted like listed in the file, but I never checked it
13:20 kf hm but that won't fix the sorting
13:19 kf maybe: name them so they sort correctly or introduce a new subheading in the yaml file
13:19 drojf but b is the one to turn all on
13:19 kf hm
13:19 drojf yes
13:19 drojf well, what i said basically. i have syspref a, b and c
13:19 kf are you creating more than one syspref that belong together?
13:18 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
13:18 kf drojf: first question?
13:18 drojf is there a way to sort the sysprefs for my patch other than the default (alphabetically)? looks kind of stupid to have the syspref to turn the thing on in between other parameters instead of on top of all
13:13 mtompset Now to correct the softlinks.
13:03 mtompset hopefully this is the correct make install.
12:52 mtompset at the make test stage. (running it just for proper processing)
12:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8313 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , add ASHS to 'Koha team' page, for sponsorship of the 'star-ratings' feature
12:52 jenkins_koha mtj: Bug 8313 - add ASHS to 'Koha team' page, for sponsorship of the 'star-ratings' feature
12:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #76: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/76/
12:43 mtompset Not with the speed of my VM. :)
12:43 kf and when you have done it once, second time will be a lot easier
12:42 kf you still are
12:41 mtompset I was so close to my first patch!
12:38 kf reading first is always a good plan
12:38 mtompset I think I changed the dev not understanding why it was what it was.
12:38 kf right :)
12:38 eythian but read them first so you know what you're looking at :)
12:37 kf mtompset: it will suggest paths, just ok them
12:36 mtompset there it is.
12:36 jcamins mtompset: right.
12:36 jcamins And, I need to be leaving right now.
12:36 mtompset so it should say something like koha-dev in the perl Makefile.PL step?
12:35 * jcamins too.
12:35 eythian doing two things at once.
12:35 jcamins I think.
12:35 eythian yeah, my bad
12:35 mtompset right.
12:35 eythian ohh
12:35 jcamins eythian: no, the git reset --hard is necessary because the configuration was installed to kohaclone rather than koha-dev.
12:35 eythian that doesn't matter
12:35 mtompset that's the problem.
12:35 mtompset I did the install process in master.
12:34 eythian (assuming you haven't changed master)
12:34 eythian you don't need to reset
12:34 mtompset git reset --hard
12:34 mtompset git branch -D bug_7630
12:34 mtompset git checkout master
12:34 mtompset So...
12:33 mtompset I only have master.
12:33 mtompset I deleted the branch.
12:33 eythian )
12:33 eythian (it'll just point to a previous place.
12:32 eythian the branch, however, will still be there and so it won't be like a fresh git clone.
12:32 jcamins That will remove all the changes you haven't committed.
12:32 jcamins In this case, you just need git reset --hard
12:31 kf and throw away your changes
12:31 kf you can also do git reset --hard HEAD^ that will undo the last commit
12:31 eythian git rebase will not delete a branch
12:30 mtompset git rebase?
12:30 eythian git branch -D branchname will delete a branch
12:30 mtompset make it like a fresh git clone.
12:30 mtompset My change is very trivial.
12:30 eythian and I'm not sure what "just git pull" means.
12:30 mtompset I'd feel more comfortable doing that.
12:29 eythian mtompset: you probably don't need to delete a branch
12:29 jcamins paul_p: I can't do it right now, since I have to leave in five minutes, but I will as soon as I can, if no one beats me.
12:29 * magnuse uses .git/info/exclude by default, except for things like config files in new projects
12:29 mtompset I'll do the reinstall over.
12:28 mtompset How do I delete a branch, and just git pull?
12:28 paul_p jcamins = if you could take a few minuts to signoff again the 7167, that would be nice (because jonathan updated it to fix QA comments)
12:28 mtompset Let's clean this up.
12:28 mtompset okay...
12:28 jcamins paul_p: hehe. Me too.
12:28 jcamins No, with make.
12:28 * paul_p also impatient to see bug 7167 pushed, because he's tired of editing updatedatabase everytime there is a DB update...
12:28 eythian no, the make
12:28 mtompset It jumped immediately to step 3.
12:27 mtompset the web installer?!
12:27 kf paul_p: did the same with my gitignore heh
12:27 jcamins mtompset: no, really, when you ran the installer it suggested koha-dev as the default.
12:27 mtompset and then perl make, make, make test, make install inside the kohaclone.
12:27 mtompset I did a git clone.
12:27 mtompset obviously not.
12:26 jcamins eythian: but it's installed to koha-dev by default...
12:26 eythian *to put
12:26 eythian I suspect you didn't provide another directory for put the config files into, or something
12:26 jcamins Not in place.
12:26 mtompset the perl script relabels.
12:26 jcamins Did you copy files from koha-dev to kohaclone?
12:26 mtompset I did an INSTALL.
12:26 jcamins I mean, I don't see how you could end up with files that looked like that.
12:26 mtompset Nothing.
12:26 jcamins mtompset: what did you do?
12:26 eythian :)
12:25 mtompset duh! I know that.
12:25 eythian mtompset: don't commit that
12:25 jcamins paul_p++
12:25 * paul_p is on bug 6557 and will probably push it soon...
12:25 mtompset That's a sample difference.
12:25 mtompset http://mibpaste.com/qw7Eb3
12:25 eythian yes, that's the way
12:25 eythian I think there's a "proper" way of doing it
12:24 magnuse there also .git/info/exclude...
12:24 eythian that'll work then :)
12:24 eythian ahh
12:24 paul_p (and I told .gitignore to ignore .gitignore ;-) )
12:24 jcamins mtompset: see what changes you made with "git diff"
12:24 paul_p eythian ??? I have a .gitignore to itnore *.*~ or things like that in the list of untracked files
12:23 jcamins However, the wrong files were edited.
12:23 * jcamins didn't know that.
12:23 eythian also, if you make a .gitignore, it ends up getting committed
12:23 jcamins mtompset: the configuration files used by your installation are the ones in koha-dev/etc
12:23 jcamins paul_p: the files he edited are the ones in kohaclone/etc
12:23 paul_p jcamins ah, OK
12:23 paul_p eythian ? why ?
12:22 jcamins paul_p: mtompset just started using git, and didn't know not to edit those config files.
12:22 mtompset but I don't want ../etc/... included.
12:22 eythian bad paul_p, bad :)
12:22 eythian no bad
12:22 jcamins No, don't do that.
12:22 paul_p mtompset = create .gitignore file
12:22 jcamins mtompset: none of the config files you are using should be controlled by git.
12:21 mtompset How do I get git to ignore them?
12:21 mtompset Some of my config files are being listed as changed.
12:21 eythian despite that, my commits on new machines always end up with ZZ at the bottom.
12:21 mtompset I don't like it. I know vi well enough.
12:21 eythian the key list is at the bottom of the screen
12:20 eythian mtompset: nano tells you how to use it
12:18 mtompset That one shall not be named! GAH!
12:18 jcamins Or, you know, that other one.
12:17 jcamins mtompset: you can change your editor with export EDITOR=vim
12:15 mtompset AAAAA! Nano editor. I don't know how to use it.
12:13 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration <-- I also strongly recommend setting this up
12:13 eythian git add <file>, git commit
12:12 mtompset Okay... I have fixed the file... next step... let's see...
12:11 mtompset Now to save my tiny change.
12:11 mtompset Okay... confirmed the bug is still in latest version.
12:05 jcamins Right, it will automatically detect when your database is out of date.
12:04 mtompset That was a surprise... I forgot about doing a git pull while using the staff client... I was transported to a DB update screen.
12:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #76 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:01 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6939 DefaultClassificationSource should be default in 942
12:01 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8288 - showmarc.tt should not include full doc-head-close.inc
12:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #75: SUCCESS in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/75/
11:59 mtompset Okay.
11:59 mtompset right.
11:59 jcamins blib was created by make.
11:59 jcamins members/moremember.pl
11:59 mtompset dumb question... which file do I fix? ./blib/INTRANET_CGI_DIR/members/moremember.pl ./members/moremember.pl?
11:58 jcamins Apparently the rebase resulted in the manage staged records not showing up right, either.
11:58 jcamins Ugh.
11:57 jcamins It's an easy sign off, though.
11:57 jcamins Chances are good.
11:55 kf will you be around tomorrow?
11:55 jcamins kf: bug 2060 will be ready for sign off in a few minutes...
11:54 * jcamins finds a syntax error in his Javascript.
11:54 jcamins Oh, drat.
11:54 jcamins It takes real work to remove patches.
11:54 eythian in this case, it'll merge it in
11:54 eythian git tries hard to never lose your work
11:54 eythian nope
11:54 jcamins No.
11:53 mtompset git pull would blow away my patches in a branch, right?
11:53 mtompset My kohaclone is current.
11:53 mtompset So, I've done my git pull.
11:53 eythian that's because there's a lot
11:53 mtompset git branch -r lists a WHOLE bunch of branchs.
11:53 eythian also, it'll say that it can't do that
11:52 kf and tab complete works too
11:52 kf you can see your branches with git branch
11:52 eythian try it and find out :)
11:52 mtompset Typos happen.
11:51 mtompset what if the branchname doesn't exist?
11:49 jcamins git checkout branchname
11:49 mtompset how do you switch branches?
11:49 jcamins Right.
11:48 mtompset but only in that branch.
11:48 jcamins Right.
11:47 mtompset Ah so rebasing is an attempt make current but keep your patch.
11:45 jcamins If there is a conflict, it will tell you and you'll be given the opportunity to fix it.
11:45 jcamins This will update branch A to the latest master, and try to stick your patch on at the end of it.
11:45 jcamins When you go back to working on bug A, you're going to do "git rebase origin/master"
11:44 jcamins Branch A is now a little behind the times.
11:44 mtompset what happens to the patch I just did?
11:44 mtompset but what does that mean for branch A?
11:44 jcamins Then it will be up-to-date as soon as you check it out.
11:44 jcamins Before you create the branch for bug B, you should do "git fetch origin."
11:44 mtompset rebase branch B?
11:43 mtompset branch bug B today.
11:43 mtompset generate patch blah blah
11:43 mtompset branch bug A
11:43 mtompset yesterday git pull
11:43 mtompset last year kohaclone
11:43 jcamins That is correct. One branch for each fix.
11:43 mtompset no...
11:42 jcamins Oh, I thought we were talking about one bug fix.
11:42 mtompset Yes... a branch for each bug fix.
11:42 jcamins No additional branching.
11:42 jcamins No.
11:42 mtompset I branch again.
11:42 mtompset paul pushs.
11:42 jcamins You want to update your code.
11:42 mtompset I branch.
11:42 jcamins Since then, paul_p pushed some changes.
11:42 mtompset I have kohaclone
11:41 mtompset I'm worried about pulling right now
11:41 jcamins Right.
11:41 mtompset I don't care about pushing.
11:41 jcamins So let's say you started development yesterday.
11:41 jcamins What paul_p does as release manager is "push."
11:41 mtompset yes.
11:41 jcamins A "pull" is what you, as someone developing against master does.
11:40 jcamins I think you're using the wrong terminology.
11:40 mtompset yesterday...
11:40 mtompset If I did a patch yesterbase....
11:40 mtompset there's stuff being git pulled down now.
11:40 jcamins It still does.
11:40 jcamins You know how using IE used to really suck?
11:40 mtompset okay... so let's say I got this running yesterday.
11:39 jcamins It's *later* when master has been updated further that you need to do the git fetch origin && git rebase origin/master
11:39 jcamins No, when you create a branch it has the newest version of code.
11:38 mtompset so once you create a branch you git rebase?
11:38 jcamins And when you want to make sure that the code you're working on applies on latest master, you do git rebase origin/master
11:38 jcamins Then you download the latest version of the code with git fetch origin
11:37 jcamins That creates a branch called whatever.
11:37 mtompset Because obviously you'll want to keep doing git pulls.
11:37 jcamins git checkout -b whatever origin/master
11:37 mtompset Okay... makes sense... but how do you switch the main branch?
11:37 jcamins I deleted 70 a few months ago.
11:37 jcamins Probably due for some cleaning.
11:37 jcamins I have 146 branches in my development repo.
11:36 jcamins Yes.
11:35 mtompset So you branch for each bug fix?
11:33 jcamins mtompset: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=558
11:32 mtompset Trying to see what the Version Control Using Git page says...
11:32 kf yes, paul pushed new things today
11:31 kf remember to never make changes on your master branch, create a new branch
11:31 mtompset I figured I should do a 'git pull' first.
11:31 kf there are instructionson the wiki
11:29 mtompset pulled up my bugs list.
11:27 mtompset Okay... I guess that means I can attempt a patch now?
11:26 jcamins Now you log into the staff client.
11:26 mtompset Okay... I seem to be in...
11:26 jcamins That's it.
11:26 jcamins Nope.
11:25 mtompset Is there anything past step 3?
11:25 mtompset okay... my web installer steps failed, but the db got updated.
11:17 magnuse \o/
11:17 kf build fixed - nice
11:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha
11:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8321 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , fix OPACShowBarcode description
11:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8313 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , add ASHS to 'Koha team' page, for sponsorship of the 'star-ratings' feature
11:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8319 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , headings on statistics tab are confusing
11:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , attach PDF files to a patron record
11:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6939 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , DefaultClassificationSource not used in 942$2
11:16 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 8315 - fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha
11:16 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7161 Followup for indentation openlibrary.js
11:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8205 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Should be possible to hide unused authorities in OPAC
11:16 jenkins_koha * amit.gupta: Bug-7161 Open Library - Larger image, Read, borrow and checked-out status
11:16 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8321: Fix OPACShowBarcode description
11:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8279 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , CAS Debugging improvements
11:16 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 8313 - add ASHS to 'Koha team' page, for sponsorship of the 'star-ratings' feature
11:16 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8319: Update headings on Patron Statistics tab
11:16 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 8130 follow-up DBRev number
11:16 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8130 - attach PDF files to a patron record
11:16 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6939 DefaultClassificationSource should be default in 942
11:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8288 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , showmarc.tt should not include full doc-head-close.inc
11:16 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 8205 follow-up DBRev number
11:16 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8205: Add OPACShowUnusedAuthorities syspref
11:16 jenkins_koha * matthias.meusburger: Bug 8279: CAS Debugging improvements
11:16 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8288 - showmarc.tt should not include full doc-head-close.inc
11:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #769: FIXED in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/769/
11:16 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
11:14 mtompset Then try going back to the staff client.
11:14 mtompset Okay... so, I'll wait for the updatedatabase.pl to finish.
11:14 mtompset updatedatabase.pl is still running.
11:13 mtompset Shoot... Gateway Timeout on the DB update.
11:13 jcamins However, don't do that.
11:13 jcamins mtompset: you would do: git checkout -b 3.8.x origin/3.8.x
11:11 mtompset what is the git clone for 3.8.X?
11:11 mtompset Just want to make sure.
11:11 kf if you want a installation to use in production, you want to checkout the branch with the stable release
11:11 mtompset okay.
11:10 kf mtompset: if your goal was to do a dev install to make patches with, you are on the right branch
11:10 mtompset "git clone git: //git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone"
11:10 mtompset "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone"
11:10 mtompset I was just following the instructions there.
11:10 wahanui git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
11:10 mtompset git?
11:10 eythian yeah, if it wasn't you'd never have a stable release
11:09 rangi cos you didnt check out the 3.8.x branch
11:08 drojf because git is newer than the stable release i suppose?
11:08 mtompset Why is the git at 3.9, but the latest stable release is 3.8.2?
11:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #75 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
11:05 mtompset I suppose I'll be able to find the optimal size for this data set tonight with this VM.
11:04 mtompset I already loaded data.
11:04 kf well. it's too small really if you want to load test data
11:04 drojf :P
11:04 drojf just start over
11:04 kf 1 gb is a bit small
11:03 mtompset Wow... 56MB free? I made my VM have 768MB... I guess I really should have told it 1GB.
11:01 mtompset I am going to have a patch posted before I go to bed tonight. :)
11:01 * mtompset wishes it would run faster.
11:00 * mtompset likes the blinky lights. :)
11:00 mtompset Ah, okay.
10:59 eythian the current version is just a special syspref field
10:59 mtompset It correctly identified 3.6.3 :)
10:58 mtompset clicking update your database.
10:58 mtompset The git I cloned was 3.9?
10:57 mtompset we have web installer page. YAY!
10:57 jcamins mtompset: okay, that makes sense.
10:56 mtompset tweaking to get graphic browser access as compare to lynx.
10:54 drojf nah he can just install all from scratch if something goes wrong ;)
10:53 jcamins mtompset: wouldn't it be better to make sure everything is working before doing too much tweaking?
10:52 * mtompset is tweaking apache configuration files.
10:47 * mtompset checking environment variables.
10:37 mtompset Then I'll try a staffclient.
10:37 drojf ok
10:37 mtompset Need to finish the cron job setup, etc.
10:37 drojf :)
10:37 jcamins You could do something fancy with map, but I would just iterate through.
10:36 jcamins Ah.
10:36 jcamins mtompset: when you try to log in to the staff client, it will do that for you.
10:36 drojf i want to check if the type of element is the same for all given 856 fields in a record. like, are they all "video" or "audio".
10:35 mtompset just run updatedatabase?
10:34 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
10:34 jcamins first question?
10:33 drojf in an array of hashes, is there some fancy way to compare all values for a certain key of a hash for all elements of the array? like, there is the same $myhash{mykey}=myvalue in each element of the array and i would want to check if myvalue is the same for all entries. or do i have to walk though that using foreach? does that question make sense at all?
10:31 Waylon you liking, mtompset ?
10:29 jcamins You won't be going through the entire webinstaller.
10:29 jcamins mtompset: you just have to run updatedatabase.
10:26 mtompset Now to web install. :)
10:26 mtompset Just finished the 3.6.3 db import.
10:24 jcamins Nifty, thanks. :)
10:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8315 - fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=482c96c4651d5b6eb86332637363707423c6c110> / 7161 Followup for indentation openlibrary.js <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=deb444401ae9daaa256b41775b70834b5b7327ba> / Bug-7161 Open Library - Larger image, Read, borrow and checked-out status <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k
10:24 eythian yes
10:24 eythian squeeze|main|i386: libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl 0.03-1koha1
10:22 mtompset Template:: Plugin::HtmlToText (without the space)
10:22 jcamins At least one of us is awake right now. ;)
10:22 drojf hi jcamins
10:22 drojf heh
10:22 drojf template-plugin-htmltotext
10:22 jcamins Template::Plugin::HtmlToText.
10:21 jcamins I meant...
10:21 jcamins That's not the package I meant to ask about.
10:21 jcamins You're right.
10:21 eythian it's in debian I think
10:21 jcamins eythian: do you have libtest-unaccent-perl on the 3.8 apt repo?
10:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #769 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #767 3 days 17 hr ago)
10:19 eythian hello jcamins
10:14 mtompset Checking it out...
10:14 jcamins rangi: there is a problem with misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl in both 3.8 and 3.6.
10:14 mtompset Ah...
10:14 mtompset What's that, Waylon?
10:12 Waylon Chill music, 115 - 90 bpm.
10:12 Waylon The voice of startrek online.
10:12 * Waylon is djing guys, on www.subspace-radio.net if you guys want to listen in.
10:06 wahanui jcamins is, like, A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins
10:06 mtompset jcamins.
10:06 mtompset Greetings, kcamins.
10:05 magnuse kia ora jcamins
10:05 wahanui morning is probably a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
10:05 jcamins Morning.
10:03 mtompset rangi++
09:59 rangi https://gitorious.org/kohacon/kohacon/trees/master/static_site/www.kohacon10.org.nz
09:52 mtompset Probably cause there was a "Robots don't touch this" type file.
09:51 eythian it's not even in the wayback machine :/
09:48 * mtompset thinks "In The Shadows" by The Rasmus makes good "waiting for my db import" music.
09:43 drojf heh
09:41 magnuse lol
09:40 mtompset It's not down for good, if you've cached it in your heart. :)
09:37 slef :( about kohacon10 website being down for good
09:32 mtompset Greetings, matts.
09:31 mtompset Morning, slef.
09:31 drojf hi slef
09:31 slef morning
09:30 * mtompset waits for his "source db_backup.sql" to finish.
09:23 mtompset kf++
09:23 mtompset yes.
09:22 drojf kf++
09:22 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
09:22 kf @later tell wizzyrea can you please remove the donation button for kohacon12 from the kc start page when you have time? thank you!
09:20 kf we can ask liz to remove it nwo that kohacon is over
09:19 drojf i guess it includes the paypalobjects.com thing that my browser is blocking so i would not mind that to go away :)
09:19 mtompset I'll go to bed early tonight. :)
09:17 mtompset Actually, "Sponsor KohaCon12" is just a few inches to the right, so it isn't all over the place.
09:17 rangi dude get some sleep, you are all over the place
09:16 mtompset I think the "Sponsor KohaCon12" needs to be updated now on the webpage. :)
09:13 mtompset the values you would expect in itype and itemtype come from the itemtypes table, correct?
09:13 kf it should preferably not be NULL if you want to avoid the error logs filling up
09:12 kf it can be the same or it can be something else
09:12 mtompset So, if itype is set, kf,should itemtype be NULL or the same?
09:11 kf the last number references to database updates
09:09 mtompset 3.2.0.26 I believe is the full.
09:09 mtompset 26?! When did that kernel version come out?
09:05 mtompset I guess so when item-level_itypes is 'specific item', correct?
09:03 mtompset does it make sense that itype is filled in more than itemtype?
08:56 mtompset kf, was just explaining the differences between itype and itemtype. :)
08:55 drojf i know :D
08:55 mtompset [off] day. :)
08:55 lamiette hi all
08:55 drojf aaah, good, healthy night sleep :D
08:54 mtompset But I got 3 hours sleep, thank you.
08:54 mtompset yes.
08:54 kf hi lamiette :)
08:53 rangi hi lamiette and eythian
08:52 lamiette morena
08:52 eythian hello all
08:51 magnuse kia ora kf and eythian
08:51 kf morning eythian
08:51 drojf hi kf
08:51 kf hi drojf and magnuse
08:50 drojf summerday
08:50 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Pankow, Weissensee, Germany is 29.3°C (10:49 AM CEST on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
08:50 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
08:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
08:50 drojf :)
08:50 magnuse @wunder boo
08:50 magnuse guten tag drojf
08:50 drojf hei magnuse
08:50 * magnuse waves
08:50 drojf heh mtompset still around?
08:49 drojf1 good day #koha
08:46 * mtompset curses permissions.
08:46 mtompset not a problem, jcamins helped me fix the indexing problem last night. :)
08:45 kf completely
08:45 kf you will have to reindex
08:45 mtompset right... have some of those NULL too. :)
08:45 kf if you change it using sql
08:45 kf yes
08:45 mtompset biblioitems.itemtype
08:44 kf so settng it would fix your problem and possibly some others too
08:44 kf you could fix the warn but I think generally it's good to set 942
08:44 kf never mind
08:44 kf it's probably correct, it checks the item field and the itype...
08:43 kf ah no
08:43 mtompset system preference? What tab is it?
08:43 mtompset $itm->{'itype'} is NULL.
08:42 kf because I think it should probably be dependent on former mentioned system preference
08:42 kf to be worng
08:42 kf && (not $itemtypes->{$itm->{'itype'}}->{notforloan} )
08:42 kf && ($itm->{'itemnotforloan'}<0 || not $itm->{'itemnotforloan'} )
08:42 kf I am suspicous of this part
08:42 wahanui hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
08:42 kf hm interesting
08:42 mtompset opac-detail.
08:41 kf where is this from?
08:41 mtompset This is the piece of headache.
08:40 mtompset http://mibpaste.com/SryG3U
08:40 kf then you will have to spent time on fixing things - I did some patches for that, but it's not high priority for developers right now
08:39 kf what you can do for this specific thing is make your catalogers catalog it, use a default value in your frmeworks to always set it...
08:39 mtompset Hey... I want to wake up in the morning tail the error log and see nothing.
08:39 kf and whie it would be good to have them cleaned up, it's curerntly not the case
08:39 kf it will not the last thing you walk into
08:39 kf you can file a bug - but the logs in general have errors and warns
08:38 mtompset And I'm only a lowly programmer, not a librarian.
08:38 mtompset It's flooding my error log. :(
08:37 mtompset Because NULL is causing me a headache.
08:37 kf I normally set it to the most used itype by defalt - but other people might do it differently
08:37 kf and maybe in some other places
08:37 kf but it is still used to suggest an itype in your item creation form for example
08:36 kf if you use item level itypes the relevance of 942 is not so high
08:36 mtompset So when one is set, the other isn't?
08:36 kf so when you set it to record, you don't have 952$y
08:36 kf that lets you choose if you want to use itypes on record or item level
08:36 kf item_level-itypes or similar
08:36 kf there is a system preference
08:36 kf no
08:35 mtompset are they generally identical?
08:35 kf what do you want to know?
08:35 mtompset What do you folks know about 942$c and 952$y subfields?
08:32 mtompset Greetings everyone. :)
08:29 kf have fun :)
08:27 hdl kf: yep
08:26 kf perl days starting today? :)
08:24 matts hi there !
08:23 hdl hi
08:22 kf hi matts and hdl
08:07 kf hi paul_p :)
08:06 paul_p good morning #koha
07:55 * druthb 's bed is also being occupied. Two furry cat-beings, both purring like cement mixers
07:53 * druthb is just not sleepy
07:52 druthb 03:00, almost
07:52 * kf glares at druthb
07:52 kf no... it's almost morning again
07:52 rangi hehe isnt it the middle of the night?
07:51 druthb rangi, kf is bein' mean to me!
07:50 druthb Harrrumph!
07:50 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
07:50 rangi @later tell slef I have a static copy of the site somewhere but I have no intention of putting it back up anywhere, do you want the wget of it?
07:50 kf rangi: ignore her, she should sleep
07:50 druthb Hi rangi!
07:49 kf hi rangi
07:49 rangi hi all
07:49 kf hi sophie_m :)
07:49 sophie_m hi #koha
07:42 kf hi ropuch :)
07:41 dcook Have a good day, everyone! I'm off to enjoy my Friday night :)
07:41 ropuch Guten Tag, kf [;
07:41 kf hi #koha
07:41 ropuch Going for some "3-days-no-sleep-still-coding" badge? ;-)
07:41 mtompset Is items.itype supposed to be the same set of values as biblioitems.itemtype?
07:35 mtompset Greetings, ropuch.
07:32 ropuch Morning #koha
07:18 dcook O_O
07:18 * mtompset cringes even more.
07:18 mtompset Some of it came from a custom Access DB.
07:18 * mtompset cringes.
07:17 mtompset Some of this data came from Athena.
07:17 dcook Ahhh, I gotcha
07:17 mtompset things.
07:17 mtompset We're in the early stages of doing thing.
07:17 mtompset We marked them lost, but the probably haven't been inventoried yet.
07:17 mtompset Who in their right mind does so may conditions in one line of code?
07:17 dcook Your library has a lot of lost items?
07:16 mtompset The code that is ticking me off.
07:16 mtompset http://mibpaste.com/SryG3U
07:14 mtompset Mountain Dew and Tea help. :)
07:13 dcook I wish that I had your stamina ;)
07:13 mtompset 3 hours.
07:13 mtompset Yes.
07:04 dcook_away Did you actually sleep, mtompset?
07:03 mtompset Still waking up. :)
07:03 mtompset I mean C4::AuthoritiesMarc.pm
07:02 mtompset AH! There's a GOTO in C4::AuthoritiesSearch.pm
07:01 gaetan_B hello
06:57 francharb hi
06:45 cait and brb
06:45 cait hi reiveune :)
06:43 reiveune hello
06:40 alex_a :)
06:40 alex_a bonjour cait !
06:40 mtompset hi, cait.
06:39 cait hi alex_a :)
06:39 mtompset Salut?
06:24 alex_a bonjour
05:52 mtompset Not a problem. Enjoy breakfast. :)
05:49 Oak i mean did not see your messages... was afk
05:48 Oak mtompset: i'll be back after breakfast... sorry was away
05:48 wahanui i think a mail server is back !
05:48 Oak and a mail server
05:48 Oak and the system runs nothing except Koha...
05:48 Oak mtompset: the DB has around 520 items
05:47 mtompset Have fun with the Debian install, Oak.
05:42 mtompset And how many items does your DB have?
05:42 mtompset Out of curiosity... Does your koha server run anything other than koha?
05:41 mtompset Thanks...
05:36 Oak mtompset: total: 1961, used: 664, free: 1297
05:34 Oak okay i'll use putty
05:34 Oak oh well, i'll install firessh now and let you knoe
05:34 mtompset http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
05:33 mtompset If you have windows, why not use putty?
05:33 mtompset It will show total, used, free memory in megabytes.
05:33 mtompset Just SSH over, and type 'free -m'
05:32 Oak oho, i don't have Linux installed on my new laptop now... I use SSH to connect to my server. I'm downloading Debian right now...
05:31 mtompset "free -m" should help answer that. :)
05:31 mtompset how much memory is free?
05:31 Oak 2GB :-|
05:30 mtompset How much memory do you have on your koha server?
05:30 Oak greetings mtompset
05:30 Oak yup
05:30 mtompset Hey, Oak, you there?
05:29 mtompset Greetings, #koha
05:12 sandeepbhavsar can you guide about how can i use commandline step by step
05:11 cait you can use command line jobs or maybe split your file up into smaller files
05:08 sandeepbhavsar please help
05:07 sandeepbhavsar and struggling to import the data from last 2 days
05:07 sandeepbhavsar because mine file size is 21MB
05:07 sandeepbhavsar is it true
05:07 sandeepbhavsar and found that 20MB is the maximum limit to import data through web interface
05:06 sandeepbhavsar I have just gone through the past messages of "MARC Import problem"
05:06 cait good morning sandeepbhavsar
05:06 Oak :)
05:06 cait hi Oak :)
05:06 sandeepbhavsar Good Morning
05:06 sandeepbhavsar hi all
05:05 Oak hello cait !
05:03 cait hi #koha
04:48 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
04:48 Waylon interesting.
04:48 Waylon hmmm
04:46 mtj dpavlin's lib is running staff and opac with plack, on prod
04:46 Waylon FastCgiExternalServer /virtual/filename/fcgi -socket /path/to/my/socket and plackup -s FCGI --listen /path/to/my/socket --nproc 10 /path/to/my/script.psgi
04:45 Waylon ahh..
04:45 mtj gotta scoot now...
04:44 mtj almost - the opac code looks to be safe - staff has some small bugs to be sorted
04:43 Waylon koha 3.8 is mod perl safe?
04:43 Waylon ah.. for mod_perl
04:43 Waylon Plack::Handler::Apache2 - Apache 2.0 handlers to run PSGI application
04:43 Waylon nevermind.
04:42 Waylon so.. whats FastCGI?
04:42 mtj yep, there you go...
04:42 Waylon Plack::App::Apache::ActionWrapper - Wrapper for Apache2 Action directive for running PSGI apps on shared hosting with FastCGI
04:42 Waylon ahh
04:42 mtj Waylon: ive only used plack with apache, and via tcp
04:40 cjh dcook_away: multiples commits on one branch are possible, if you type git log it will show you all the commits of your current branch.
04:40 mtj ... have a guess which part of the statement i was referring too ;)
04:38 wahanui which is most stable version
04:38 Waylon which?
04:38 mtj yeah, probably
04:38 wahanui rumour has it whatever is most appropriate for the situation
04:38 Waylon or whatever?
04:38 Waylon plack only works via its own tcp port? or can apache and plack comm over unix socket?
04:37 mtj or nginx , or whatever httpd you put in-front of it
04:37 Waylon right. so still need apache in my case.
04:36 mtj afaik, thats a job for apache
04:36 Waylon hmm
04:36 mtj it doesnt
04:36 mtj then show the performance increase to your boss, as a justification to upgrade
04:35 Waylon oh also.. how does plack starman do virtuhosts?
04:35 mtj then siege-test both, compare the results
04:34 mtj dump your bib+items out as marc, and load them into a shiny new 3.8
04:34 mtj see, if you want a real sanity test....
04:33 Waylon icu.xml mods i think
04:33 mtj you have some mods to your zebra config, for arabic too, yeah?
04:32 mtj ive never seen a slow koha box , where zebra has been the problem
04:31 mtj ok, not tooo old...
04:30 Waylon i have 2.0.43
04:30 Waylon 2.0.52 is latest
04:30 mtj ii idzebra-2.0 2.0.50-1indexdata
04:30 mtj ason@xen1:~/g/soba1$ dpkg -l|grep zeb
04:30 mtj wat u got?
04:29 wahanui i think zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses
04:29 Waylon zebra?
04:29 mtj pass?
04:29 Waylon ...
04:29 wahanui well, latest is 3.6.4
04:29 Waylon whats latest?
04:29 mtj have you thought about getting a newer ver. of zebra?
04:28 mtj Waylon: your system does seem a little slow
04:13 dcook Now that I think about it...how would you have multiple commits on one branch?
04:04 Waylon interesting.. zebra is using alot of cpu.
04:03 Waylon its just koha being slow.
04:03 Waylon so yea.. the timeouts have nothing to do with zebra i think.
04:03 Waylon yet there is still timeouts
04:02 dcook The past few days are the first time that I've used IRC in over 10 years..
04:02 Waylon just siege testing my live server.... zebra isn't showing above 40% io usage.
04:02 * dcook chuckles
04:02 cjh heh
04:02 wahanui I know. That's why I said it.
04:02 dcook Very true
04:02 cjh the idea of accidentally sharing some half finished work is scary :)
04:02 cjh I know what you mean :)
04:01 dcook I'm just a bit of a control freak, so I want to know which data exists in which place :)
04:01 cjh dcook: if you are working with the koha git it is set up so that you cant do any damage so dont worry :)
04:01 dcook That really helps put things more in perspective
04:00 dcook Thanks for the information :)
04:00 cjh usually uploaded to bugs.koha-community.org
04:00 cjh so you add, commit and then make a patch
04:00 dcook Perfect :)
04:00 cjh dcook: yes, when using git with koha you cant push
03:59 cjh checkout, add, commit and most other commands are local only (and you then use push to share them with the server)
03:59 cjh pull, push and fetch are teh commands that do things with the remote server.
03:59 dcook And that the way to update the official Koha git is to e-mail/post that patch file
03:59 cjh yes, git can do almost everything locally
03:58 dcook I staged my files and committed them. Does that mean that they're just committed to my git repository?
03:58 cjh what in particular would you like to know?
03:58 dcook Ahh, that could also be handy
03:58 dcook Could you tell me more about how git commit works?
03:58 cjh and the stash is shared across branches, so you can 'bring them with you'
03:58 dcook Nice!
03:58 cjh yes :)
03:57 dcook So the idea is that you're working on one branch and you're done of the moment, so git stash, so that you can move to a different branch and work on another project?
03:56 dcook Mmmm, I see I see
03:56 cjh you cant switch branches when you have unstaged/uncommited changes
03:55 dcook Wouldn't those unstaged/uncommitted changes just stay in that separate branch?
03:54 cjh git stash is for saving and restoring unstaged (and uncommited) changes.
03:54 dcook So I went back to that branch, rebased, fixed the code, unstaged the changed files, re-staged them, and ran the commit command
03:53 dcook I didn't really follow any of that. I had made my original changes in a branch
03:52 cjh can also use 'git stash apply' to keep the changes in the stash and just appy them, quite a neat tool
03:52 dcook :S
03:50 cjh having them in another branch or a patch could also be useful if things get messy
03:49 cjh and then 'git stash pop' to apply your changes over the top again
03:49 cjh then git pull
03:49 cjh if you have local changes in git you can 'git stash' to store them away and take the files back to the branch version
03:46 dcook Tried git reset HEAD^1 routing-lists.pl and git reset HEAD^1 Serials.pm. That seems to work. I suppose I'll see how it goes...
03:39 dcook I've made the changes that Paul suggested, re-added the Serials.pm and routing-lists.pl files, but when I create a patch, none of my changes are evidenced :/
03:39 dcook Right now, I'm trying to figure out how to re-submit a patch for 7839...
03:38 dcook Makes sense. I'm not familiar enough with git to know how to track things.
03:05 Waylon other developers come along, can do stuff.
03:05 Waylon and know what you've done.
03:04 Waylon so you can easily rebase, dcook?
02:57 dcook This coming from a git newb, of course
02:56 dcook Actually, if you're not going to commit them, why change your git at all?
02:56 dcook I admit that I've been pondering the same thing.
02:49 Waylon same pattern of branch and rebase or is one branch okay in that situation?
02:48 Waylon if i have changes that im not going to commit back to the community, but i use myself, what do i do?
02:12 dcook Thanks for all the help, jcasmins
02:12 * jcamins calls it a night.
02:10 jcamins rebase is to combine the current changes in master into your current branch, and then put your changes at the end.
02:10 * dcook ponders
02:08 jcamins Then git checkout -b bug_whatever origin/master gets the latest version.
02:08 dcook rebase then merges the downloads into the master branch?
02:08 jcamins Right.
02:08 dcook So, git fetch downloads all of the changes
02:07 jcamins I keep master up-to-date pretty much all the time.
02:06 jcamins Right.
02:06 dcook According to Owen's blog, it looks like he does it before and after doing a change
02:06 dcook So when did you fetch and rebase there?
02:06 jcamins And that's it. :)
02:06 * dcook listens
02:05 jcamins If it weren't in master, I would make the change, commit the result, then attach the patch to the bug.
02:04 jcamins Hm. Fix is in master, not 3.6.
02:03 jcamins > git checkout -b bug_8333 kc/master
02:03 jcamins Step 2: create a branch for my development.
02:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8333 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Syntax error in misc/check-url.pl
02:03 jcamins Bug 8333
02:03 jcamins Step 1: I file a bug.
02:03 jcamins Okay, returning to that bug:
02:00 jcamins If that is not the way you have it set up, it is time to change your setup to match that.
02:00 jcamins dcook: you should have one branch for each feature you are working on.
02:00 jcamins dcook: right.
02:00 jcamins Waylon: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=558
02:00 jcamins dcook: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=558
02:00 dcook git fetch and rebase after the commit?
01:59 jcamins oleonard has a nice blog post on this...
01:59 jcamins So you do your work, commit it, and then, instead of doing git pull, you do git fetch && git rebase origin/master
01:59 * dcook has a background in English literature and Library Studies. He's only been coding since last October.
01:59 jcamins However, it's always a good idea to rebase against latest master when developing.
01:58 jcamins Nothing to worry about.
01:58 jcamins Oh, okay then.
01:58 dcook I call it my 3.8 git, but I develop from the master
01:58 jcamins So, here's how we rescue this:
01:58 jcamins If you develop on 3.8, you'll still have to rebase and try to integrate your work into master, or you'll be little better off than you are now.
01:58 dcook Mmm, I follow you now
01:58 jcamins The 3.8 branch is a "stable" branch which contains only those fixes that rangi considers safe.
01:57 jcamins Current development is done on the master branch.
01:57 jcamins Only.
01:57 dcook I'm not sure that I follow
01:57 jcamins Develop on master.
01:57 jcamins *Ever*.
01:57 jcamins Don't ever do that.
01:57 jcamins You're developing on 3.8?
01:57 * dcook cheers
01:57 * jcamins will do it while explaining.
01:57 dcook I don't think that I've changed my 3.8 git since my install...should I rebase and then commit this change
01:57 jcamins First, you report a bug.
01:57 jcamins Easy peasy.
01:56 dcook Since you're a git guru, could you tell me a bit more about how the fix should be handled?
01:55 jcamins Possibly more... I didn't actually look to see when it was pushed.
01:54 dcook Good call
01:54 jcamins Clearly no one has used that script in two months.
01:54 jcamins Maybe.
01:53 jcamins I'll post a fix in a bit.
01:52 jcamins dcook: fix it. I actually don't need the script, I just was doing some release maintaining.
01:51 dcook Or make one, but I admit that I'm a bit focused..
01:51 dcook In this instance, what's the best way to proceed? Wait for a patch?
01:50 * jcamins grumbles about broken master.
01:50 jcamins Thanks.
01:50 jcamins dcook: yes, that's what I was wondering about.
01:50 dcook Semi-colon rather than a comma?
01:49 dcook syntax error at misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl line 168, near "$agent;" syntax error at misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl line 170, near ")"
01:48 dcook jcamins, it looks like 3.8 has check-url.pl rather than check_url.pl. That said, what am I looking for?
01:45 mtj woo! , created a new FF profile, twitter widget works now?!
01:44 jcamins Try running perl -c misc/cronjobs/check_url.pl for me?
01:44 jcamins misc/cronjobs/check_url.pl
01:43 dcook ?
01:43 jcamins We have a syntax error in master, don't we?
01:43 jcamins Ah.
01:43 dcook I've adopted most of these conventions as a result, but it's good to see them explicit liike this, jcamins
01:43 dcook Nope. I just used other people's patches as a guideline
01:42 jcamins dcook: uh-oh. hadn't seen 'em before?
01:42 dcook I really wish I would've looked at those guidelines sooner.
01:40 jcamins No real point in testing 3.6.5.4, if I'm merging in 3.6.6.
01:39 jcamins ^^ :D
01:39 wahanui coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines
01:39 jcamins coding guidelines?
01:39 Waylon like.. 3.8 uses TT?
01:39 Waylon ?
01:39 Waylon ohkay, as a developer of 3.0.. what do i need to know about 3.8's coding style/conventions
01:38 jcamins Time to merge that in.
01:38 jcamins Wait, I just released 3.6.6.
01:37 mtj meh, thats my error -> https://dev.twitter.com/discussions/8498 :/
01:36 jcamins I temporarily enabled the scripts.
01:36 jcamins I do have noscript installed.
01:35 mtj i guess you are too :)
01:35 mtj (i'm on 13.0.1, osx)
01:35 jcamins It just updated itself.
01:35 jcamins Latest.
01:34 mtj ok :) wot verzion of FF?
01:34 jcamins Yes I do.
01:34 mtj right side of screen
01:34 mtj do you successfully get a 'twitter' window, on that page?
01:34 jcamins But it seems to work fine.
01:33 jcamins I have no idea what it is doing.
01:33 mtj i get a 'o.styleSheet is undefined' error, on FF :/
01:32 mtj hi all - does this work for anyone, on firefox ?-> https://twitter.com/about/resources/widgets/widget_profile
01:18 dcook Actually, I'm probably off on that, Waylon. I have no idea.
01:17 dcook Total
01:16 dcook That server runs multiple instances, but I would estimate around a million
01:15 dcook Also a good question
01:15 Waylon wow.. how many records do you do, on your koha server, dcook?
01:15 dcook Ahh. Alas, I'm no help there, jcamins. I have been pondering about sysprefs quite a bit lately though. I find it odd that they seem to be passed in different ways sometimes.
01:11 jcamins dcook: oh, I'm cherry-picking caching code back onto my 3.6.x-based branch, and I'd really like better caching for sysprefs.
01:10 dcook Sorry?
01:09 jcamins I need updated caching code.
01:09 jcamins Hm.
01:04 dcook Have a good one
01:01 mtompset [off] now to collapse for a couple hours.
01:01 dcook No worries
01:00 mtompset Thanks for the feedback.
00:57 dcook It's a pretty active server, mtompset. over 11GB of that seems to be in use
00:55 dcook It says 12GB for total Mem
00:54 dcook Hmmm
00:51 mtompset for debian and ubuntu at least.
00:51 mtompset free -m
00:51 mtompset if you have a command prompt.
00:50 dcook Good question, mtompset. I don't handle any of the server administration, so I'm not sure.
00:50 mtompset It seems that the make install worked.
00:50 mtompset dcook? How much ram is on your koha server?
00:47 mtompset jcamins++
00:46 jcamins dcook: you're welcome.
00:43 dcook Wonderful. Thanks again, jcamins, for helping me out on that one.
00:38 dcook Ahh. That's considerably better than what I imagined.
00:37 jcamins dcook: 10 minutes.
00:37 dcook Good call, jcamins. Do you know what kind of lagtime we're talking about?
00:37 jcamins mtompset: I'm not sure that will work for either large databases or small databases.
00:36 mtompset I figure mysqldump size * 2 round up should be minimum.
00:36 mtompset OK VM is rebooted and ready to make install.
00:36 jcamins But I'd consider that the minimum for a production server.
00:35 jcamins Well, actually, I use a good deal more than 1GB.
00:35 jcamins mtompset: it doesn't suggest a minimum, but I use 1GB.
00:35 mtompset Does the Koha documentation suggest a minimum?
00:34 mtompset I was telling my supervisor that 512MB is too small, and he wanted to know what size people were generally using.
00:34 mtompset How much RAM is in your koha installations, folks?
00:32 jcamins dcook: you can, there's just a lag.
00:32 dcook All right. I'll give it a whirl.
00:32 dcook If I can't make one change one time, that seems to be a fairly big impairment
00:32 jcamins So, restart memcached.
00:31 dcook I just wanted to make the 863 appear in my Serial framework
00:31 dcook Yet...
00:31 dcook Makes sense
00:31 jcamins However, if you do that, you're doing something wrong.
00:31 jcamins If you change your frameworks often, yes.
00:30 dcook While stopping it might solve the problem now, wouldn't this still be an issue going forward?
00:29 dcook I was thinking that it might be a memcached issue :/
00:29 jcamins sudo service memcached stop
00:29 jcamins You should shut down memcached on your development machine.
00:28 jcamins dcook: it's working properly.
00:28 dcook The changes are written to the database, but Koha doesn't seem to pick it up...
00:28 dcook I change the mandatory flag and the hidden status, but I see no changes when I edit or make a new record
00:27 wahanui dcook: that doesn't look right
00:27 dcook Change the subfield structure of any framework
00:27 Waylon whats wrong with the marc framework, dcook?
00:27 jcamins What am I trying to do?
00:27 dcook Sweet. Thanks, jcamins.
00:27 jcamins dcook: I'm testing that now.
00:27 jcamins ... and the upgrade past 3.4 is going to be painful.
00:26 * dcook is scowling at the Marc Bibliographic Framework in 3.8
00:26 jcamins You *could*, but it wouldn't be worth it.
00:26 dcook We are coming off of 3.0 and 3.2, so all the template changes are virtually useless. Plus, there are a lot of hacky changes that we don't really want to bring forward anyway
00:26 * Waylon nods.
00:26 jcamins Waylon: well, sort of.
00:26 Waylon I can't do that because of the forementioned cherrypicking.
00:26 jcamins Waylon: no.
00:25 Waylon hmm.. well. then, you could possibly figure out what version of koha you have, and git commit everything youve changed in one blob... then upgrade via git? jcamins ?
00:25 dcook I have read it before, but I still find that I don't understand the conceptual structure of git
00:25 dcook Intriguing
00:25 jcamins Every single thing I've read about git is linked to on that page, and I've been told that I'm now one of the "git experts" on #koha.
00:24 jcamins dcook: read that.
00:24 wahanui hmmm... git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
00:24 jcamins git?
00:24 jcamins mtompset: just make install, I think.
00:24 dcook Waylon: I'm still not very familiar with how to fully use git. I haven't cherrypicked but I'm not sure about anyone else
00:23 mtompset do I need to sudo make install or will make install be fine for a dev install?
00:22 * jcamins still doesn't understand that reasoning.
00:22 Waylon well... did you import cherrypicked koha patches?
00:22 dcook There just wasn't the time or staff before
00:21 dcook Definitely the policy going forward though
00:21 dcook Sadly not
00:21 Waylon git commited them?
00:21 jcamins mtompset: yes.
00:21 dcook Fortunately, we're not going to try cutting all of them across, but it's still a bit of a headache
00:21 mtompset Are you sure?
00:21 Waylon ahhh
00:21 dcook We made about 300-400 changes to the code
00:21 jcamins mtompset: the warnings are nothing to worry about.
00:21 dcook Not in the slightest, lol
00:21 mtompset C4::Search::PazPar2
00:20 Waylon you probably have a straightforward upgrade to look forward to, dcook
00:20 Waylon yup
00:20 jcamins dcook: well, I don't know if you have a hacked up version, but that's what Waylon's been battling.
00:19 jcamins mtompset: you can ignore the warnings about uninitialized variables.
00:19 dcook As in our hacked up version?
00:19 dcook hacked up version?
00:19 mtompset C4::Ris::intype
00:19 dcook Mmm 3.0 and 3.2
00:19 jcamins dcook: you're still better off than you would have been if you were trying to stick with the hacked up version.
00:18 Waylon dcook, your upgrading from koha 3.0.0pre2?
00:18 dcook Actually, it's not that bad.
00:18 dcook Welcome to hell...
00:18 dcook Hi Waylon. I'm doing the same thing ;)
00:18 wahanui the is a stop word
00:18 dcook What the...
00:17 mtompset NICE!
00:17 Waylon So, now i need to look at koha 3.8's code. get to know it.
00:17 Waylon Okay, boss has wrote as a task: upgrade to koha 3.8 and adapt. WooT!
00:17 mtompset Greetings again, Waylon.
00:17 mtompset C4::Languages.pm
00:16 Waylon hiya all.
00:16 mtompset C4::Labels::Labels.pm
00:15 mtompset There were some uninitialized value warnings in the tests.
00:15 mtompset C4::Barcodes::PrinterConfig.pm
00:15 mtompset Most of it, I think so.
00:14 dcook Did you get that problem resolved last night at least?
00:13 mtompset I'll be experiencing an extremely rapid progression into today in the next couple of hours. :)
00:13 mtompset See, you experienced some time dilation too, just not as drastic as I.
00:12 dcook I had my supper around midnight, so it worked out in the end
00:11 * dcook chuckles
00:11 mtompset Yes, but you probably slept, so I am experiencing localized time dilation. ;)
00:11 dcook Australia, so I'm in the future as well
00:11 mtompset Yourself?
00:11 mtompset I'm in the Philippines.
00:11 dcook Where are you mtompset?
00:10 dcook Dinger. Thanks anyways
00:10 mtompset 3.6.3 here.
00:10 mtompset Technically it is already tomorrow now, but since I haven't sleep, I'm still in yesterday.
00:10 jcamins And I'm on 3.6 at the moment.
00:09 mtompset Sorry. Neither have I.
00:08 jcamins dcook: never tried it.
00:08 mtompset No sleep, no next day. :)
00:08 mtompset I define a day by sleeping at night. ;)
00:08 dcook Quick question...has anyone else been unable to alter marc bibliographic frameworks in 3.8?
00:08 jcamins mtompset: isn't it tomorrow there, too.
00:08 dcook Hi mtompset!
00:08 mtompset Greetings from yesterday. ;)
00:07 jcamins o/
00:07 dcook Allo allo
00:04 mtompset i hate man-db triggers. They are so slow!
00:04 mtompset doing that.
00:04 mtompset yep.
00:03 jcamins sudo apt-get install libcache-memcached-perl
00:03 jcamins There's a patch for that, I think.
00:03 jcamins Hrm.
00:03 mtompset Cache/Memcached/Fast.pm missing
00:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8192 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Update libraries and Missing library in install_misc/ubuntu.packages
00:00 mtompset bug 8192
00:00 mtompset That relates to another bug of mine.