Time Nick Message 04:34 Oak Guten morgen miss cait 04:34 Oak kia ora #koha 04:34 cait good morning mr oak 06:03 cait good morning #koha 06:16 alex_a hello 06:23 ropuch Guten Morgen, cait [; 06:23 ropuch Hi #koha 06:23 cait hi ropuch :) 06:44 julian_m hello 06:45 reiveune hello 06:50 sophie_m hi #koha 06:56 * magnuse waves 06:56 * magnuse cheers for the first unglued ebook https://unglue.it/work/81724/ 06:59 matts hi #koha ! 07:00 mveron hi matts! 07:01 magnuse looks like the french translation of the manual needs some attention? http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/79/console 07:01 mveron hi #koha 07:02 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 07:02 mtompset Is anyone active right now? 07:08 gaetan_B hello :) 07:13 mtompset Hello. 07:13 mveron hello mtompset 07:13 mtompset Are you familiar with the scheduling functionality of koha? 07:14 kf hi #koha 07:14 paul_p good morning #koha 07:14 kf_mtg morning paul_p 07:14 * kf_mtg runs out 07:16 mveron mtompset: How did you manage to get on the wiki user list? 07:16 * paul_p switches to "pushing like a mad" mode... 07:16 paul_p 44 patches to push ... 07:16 mveron paul_p: ++ 07:18 * mveron Still can not edit the wiki, should comment on Bug 7621 (Age restriction) 07:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Signed Off , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories 07:24 mtompset How did I get on the wiki user list 07:24 mtompset I bugged people left right and center, and spent an hour working with gmcharlt 07:25 mtompset The wiki is different than bugzilla. 07:25 mtompset bugzilla I just registered no problem. 07:26 mveron mtompset: Thanks, will try to do the same :-) 07:36 mveron gmchalt:Can you please help me with the Wiki registration? User Mveron (Created on 10 June 2012 at 15:18), can still not edit. Thanks! 07:37 * mveron mistaked with the name.. 07:37 mveron gmcharlt:Can you please help me with the Wiki registration? User Mveron (Created on 10 June 2012 at 15:18), can still not edit. Thanks! 07:39 Oak magnuse 07:39 Oak kia ora #koha 07:39 Oak where can I find basic information about SIP and Koha? 07:40 * Oak is googling but not finding what is needed -- basics 07:40 mtompset Oak, kumusta? -- Oops. How are you? 07:41 Oak i'm good. how are you? 07:41 mtompset Just about to see if a semi-colon error exists in some code somewhere. :) 07:41 mtompset But generally good otherwise. 07:59 mveron magnuse:Hi from Switzerland to Norway! 08:00 matts !weather bodo 08:00 drojf good morning #koha 08:00 matts @weather bodo 08:00 huginn matts: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on June 20, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 08:00 mveron Hi drojf 08:00 drojf hey mveron :) 08:01 mveron magnuse:I see that you are listed as Wiki adminsitrator on wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration#Host_and_administrators_6 08:01 drojf mveron: do you really want to post on the wiki or bugzilla? i could post something for you in the wiki if that helps 08:02 mveron Wiki! 08:02 mveron I have an account, but not yet editing privileges 08:02 drojf would it help if i post something for you as long as you cannot? 08:03 slef does this topic need kicking on koha-devel again? 08:03 rangi Try making a new one I think mail is working now 08:03 rangi At least new people have been editing 08:04 mveron drojf: Thanks :-) Hmm, it is quit a lot - would appreciate to do it myself 08:04 mveron rangi: I tried to get a new confirmation Email, does not work 08:05 rangi Just now? 08:05 mveron About 1 hour ago. 08:05 rangi Hmm weird I wonder how others have been doing it 08:06 rangi I had to remove some spam the other day from a new user 08:07 mveron There is a lot of spam, see http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&dir=prev&limit=500&creationSort=1 08:08 rangi Naw those are just new users 08:08 rangi Not actual vandalism of pages 08:09 rangi You can see the rollback and user I blocked 08:09 drojf works fine for me 08:09 drojf i dont see mveron in the list http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Special:Log/newusers 08:09 drojf i am wikitest and got a confirmation email 08:10 rangi If we had open access every one of those new users would be making new spammy pages 08:10 slef there seems to be a web spam registration surge recently 08:11 rangi Instead only the ones that respond to email do 08:11 slef one of our maintained sites that gets very little spam (because we locked it down) had about a dozen drive-bys yesterday 08:11 mveron Username: Mveron User ID: 2936 Member of groups: Autoconfirmed users, Users Number of edits: 0 Registration time: 15:18, 10 June 2012 08:11 drojf mveron: try a new registration, that works 08:11 rangi Yep did use try making a new user? 08:12 mveron Will try 08:12 * mveron quits to have a clean browser 08:13 slef rangi: started with the strangest beer, I see. :) 08:13 rangi Yup 08:13 rangi Wasn't bad at all 08:15 slef the lavender farm is about 12 miles north of me 08:15 slef https://www.norfolk-lavender.co.uk/ 08:16 slef we don't grow grapes much, sadly ;) 08:17 * magnuse has seen uk grapes on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_and_James_Drink_to_Britain 08:18 * mveron ...is back again 08:19 drojf wb mveron 08:19 drojf with a wiki account? 08:19 mveron New Wiki account created, waiting for confirmation mail... 08:19 drojf took a minute for me 08:20 rangi Check ur spam folder too 08:21 rangi Slef: did use try the reisling? 08:21 mveron rangi:Yes, of course :-) 08:21 rangi Hmm my phone keeps typing use 08:22 rangi Instead of you 08:22 * rangi relearns it 08:22 drojf and reisling instead of riesling :P 08:22 rangi Hehe 08:25 * magnuse thinks "did use try" sounds like some kind of slang 08:25 rangi Use is plural of you 08:26 rangi ;) 08:26 rangi Youse 08:26 magnuse ah yes :-) 08:27 rangi If you go to library.education.govt.nz 08:27 rangi Do you get a Koha site? 08:28 drojf yep 08:28 drojf asks to log into my account 08:29 rangi My work here is done 08:29 wahanui i already had it that way, rangi. 08:29 * rangi goes home 08:30 mveron drojf:I see that you registered to the wiki on 7 February. I see in the IRC logs that mtompset tried to register on 3. June, had problems as well. 08:31 drojf mveron: i registered a user called "wikitest" to test it half an hour ago and it worked fine 08:32 drojf or at least i got the email. i did not confirm it though, did not want to create a dummy 08:32 drojf you got no email? 08:33 mveron No. And no spam filter active. 08:33 slef rangi: not yet. It's waiting for a special occasion... 08:33 slef rangi: looks like a very nice one. Thank you. 08:33 slef mveron, drojf: who hosts your email? 08:35 drojf slef: i tested with gmx, a free email provider here. my regular wiki account should also be using gmx email 08:36 eythian hi wahanui 08:36 mveron Slef: ms7smtp.webland.ch 08:37 mveron slef:It's my hoster. Normaly mails come in... 08:37 erjk hello 08:37 erjk koha is free for lyftym?? 08:38 drojf for what? 08:38 erjk for use?? 08:38 erjk can koha run on windows? 08:38 drojf koha does not run on windows 08:38 erjk or it only works on ubuntu OS? 08:39 drojf it works on linux 08:39 erjk it is free for lyftym ryt? 08:39 slef koha can run in a virtual machines 08:39 slef erjk: do you mean lifetime? 08:39 erjk how to install koha on ubuntu?? 08:39 erjk ya i meant lifetime 08:40 erjk how to install koha on ubuntu?? 08:40 slef erjk: it's in the INSTALL.ubuntu 08:40 slef wahanui: INSTALL? 08:40 wahanui INSTALL is done yet 08:40 slef wahanui: git? 08:40 wahanui git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 08:41 slef wahanui: Installation? 08:41 wahanui wish i knew, slef 08:42 slef erjk: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid;b=HEAD is a copy of it on the web 08:42 erjk that means i can create account on the above link and can easily install koha software on ubuntu frm dere ryt????? 08:42 slef or you can use the packages 08:42 slef you need to create an account only if you want to edit the instructions 08:42 slef wahanui: packages? 08:42 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 08:44 erjk thnx fo the information frnz 08:47 * drojf1 looked up lyftym in the urban dictionary. it's not there 08:47 rangi ahh mibbit, hw i lv u 08:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #758 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 08:50 drojf mveron: any luck yet? 08:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8222 - make the zipcode no longer mandatory <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac5a8ca2df8025588785952e7e4f3d09e87df3b2> / patch for Bug 8226 - 'OpacFooter' markup/css improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=773b164f41f17868d500809e99f12e3b8c975fcc> / Bug 8227 Fix deprecated construct compile time warning in Serials <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb 08:51 mveron drojf: No. 08:51 slef rangi: ITYM "h mbbt, hw lv u" 08:51 rangi heh 08:53 magnuse mveron: i don't think i can help you on the wiki, even if i'm admin there 08:53 magnuse mveron: hm wait, maybe i can create an account for you? 08:54 mveron magnuse:OK, let's try it this way :-) 08:54 drojf mveron: i can resend confirmation emails too, for the account i created half an hour ago. 08:55 drojf they must get lost somethere at your hoster 08:55 drojf somewhere even 08:55 drojf you can have the wikitest account if you like ;) 08:59 mveron What would be the senders Email adress of the Wiki confirmation mail? 09:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #59 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 09:19 drojf can i delete that wikiuser somehow? 09:20 magnuse drojf: don't think so 09:20 drojf oh. then i indeed did create a dummy 09:21 magnuse drojf: could you provide the "from" address for the wiki mail to mveron? 09:21 drojf we already sorted that out 09:21 magnuse there are a ton of spam dummies anyway, i wouldn't think about it 09:21 drojf should have said that here :) 09:21 magnuse drojf: ah cool 09:24 paul_p OK, time to head for a train. WIll continue pushing in a few hours. 09:24 paul_p magnuse = how are things for the new daddy ? 09:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8216: Allow SIP modules to pass critic tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9929c52a571083e0c750e07562c33fc651d3cd09> / Bug 8223 - Properly format SQL query in C4::Bookseller::GetBookSeller <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9dc42e9ec4bb6ab0511000018adaa0f7883c905f> / Bug 8229: Tabs in marc subfield structure is not shown correctly <http://git.koha-communit 09:33 mtompset koha_on_ubuntu is the wiki page that erjk wanted. 09:34 magnuse paul_p: busy ;-) 09:39 vfernandes hi guys 09:40 vfernandes there is any function in PERL that checks if a record (MARC::Record) has already a field in order to avoid repeatables fields? 09:41 eythian vfernandes: you can just check to see if the field is already there. 09:41 eythian (also, Perl or perl, never PERL :) 09:41 vfernandes sorry caps lock :P 09:42 vfernandes but is a function of MARC::Record? 09:43 eythian no, but it doesn't have to be 09:43 eythian if ($record->field('123')) { print "We already have a 123\n"; } 09:44 eythian wahanui: marc::record is http://search.cpan.org/~gmcharlt/MARC-Record-2.0.3/lib/MARC/Record.pm 09:44 wahanui OK, eythian. 09:45 vfernandes you didn't understand my question... I have to add a field to one record with some subfields filled, but only when there isn't another field in the record that has the same subfields and values 09:45 * mveron ...still busy with the wiki problem. Log out to have clean browser 09:46 eythian vfernandes: oh, so you want to check to make sure it's not a duplicate? 09:46 eythian in that case, you'll have to do it manually 09:47 vfernandes I've asked where because maybe the algorithm is already implemented in Koha 09:47 magnuse "No branchcode argument to new. Should be C4::Calendar->new(branchcode => $branchcode) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Circulation.pm line 2700" <-- anyone seen this happening on checkout? 09:47 eythian vfernandes: it's possible, but I don't know of it if it is. 09:48 eythian magnuse: wasn't there stuff going on with calendar support? Could it be related? 09:49 magnuse eythian: line 2700 is in the CalcDateDue sub, so possibly 09:49 magnuse it happens on 3.0604001, btw 09:49 eythian ah right 09:49 eythian perhaps not then 09:50 magnuse and i have not been able to reproduce, it was reported by someone else. could be a data problem 09:50 eythian could well be 10:00 magnuse i wish whatever-it-is would stop eating my swap space... 10:02 eythian 'top' and press 'M' for a bit of an idea. 10:02 kf_mtg eythian: it's nice to have you in our timezone:) 10:03 kf_lunch bbl 10:07 kf lunch postponed 10:14 magnuse eythian: that puts mysqld at the top of the list 10:17 eythian then it's probably that :) 10:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #758: SUCCESS in 1 hr 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/758/ 10:17 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 8247 - adding basket doesn't save basket name, internal or vendor note 10:17 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 7329: Items onloan are deleted when undoing import into catalog 10:17 jenkins_koha * sophie.meynieux: Bug 7329 [Followup] : when reverting an import, keep matching biblionumber in batch table, if items are not deleted beacause on loan. 10:17 jenkins_koha * sophie.meynieux: Bug 7329 [Followup] : when reverting an import, keep matching biblionumber in batch table, if items are not deleted because they are issued. 10:17 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 8136 Changes the expected lenght of 100$a in rebuild_zebra.pl 10:17 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7961 - Local cover images should support CSV link files 10:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8247 blocker, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , adding basket doesn't save basket name, internal or vendor note 10:17 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7943: Authority search results are untranslatable 10:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7329 critical, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Stable , The "undo import into catalog" command deletes items onloan without checking 10:17 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7943 follow-up: Fix template filename 10:17 jenkins_koha * aleksa: Bug 7129: Added a sprintf to format the actual cost. 10:17 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 6720: show authority type in auth details 10:17 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8227 Fix deprecated construct compile time warning in Serials 10:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8136 normal, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Stable , Changes the expected lenght of 100$a in rebuild_zebra.pl 10:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7961 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , Local cover images should support CSV link files 10:18 jenkins_koha * mtj: patch for Bug 8226 - 'OpacFooter' markup/css improvements 10:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7943 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Untranslatable strings in OPAC's authority search 10:18 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8222 - make the zipcode no longer mandatory 10:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7129 normal, P5 - low, ---, aleksa, Pushed to Master , actual cost showing too many zeros 10:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Patch doesn't apply , Saved authorities always show as 'Default' 10:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8227 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove compile time warning from C4::Serials 10:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8226 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , 'OpacFooter' markup/css improvements 10:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8222 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , The zip code field is mandatory by default 10:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #759 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #59: SUCCESS in 1 hr 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/59/ 10:42 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating release template 10:42 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 8247 - adding basket doesn't save basket name, internal or vendor note 10:42 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 7329: Items onloan are deleted when undoing import into catalog 10:42 jenkins_koha * sophie.meynieux: Bug 7329 [Followup] : when reverting an import, keep matching biblionumber in batch table, if items are not deleted beacause on loan. 10:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8247 blocker, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , adding basket doesn't save basket name, internal or vendor note 10:42 jenkins_koha * sophie.meynieux: Bug 7329 [Followup] : when reverting an import, keep matching biblionumber in batch table, if items are not deleted because they are issued. 10:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7329 critical, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Stable , The "undo import into catalog" command deletes items onloan without checking 10:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #60 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:43 magnuse \o/ 10:52 magnuse @seen kmkale 10:52 huginn magnuse: kmkale was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 2 days, 3 hours, 12 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <kmkale> bye all 10:53 magnuse i wonder if he has any plans for Bug 7187 10:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kmkale, NEW , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next 11:09 kf hm 11:09 kf thought there was a patch somewhre 11:12 magnuse there is one on bug 2131, but i havn't looked at it 11:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2131 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Enhanced Content - Multiple Choices 11:12 * magnuse wanders off to lunch 11:38 jcamins_away paul_p++ 12:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #759: SUCCESS in 1 hr 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/759/ 12:05 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7368 Followup for history.txt Only correcting whitespace for correct placement in about form 12:05 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7367 Followup for opac-suggestions template 12:05 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8232: Comments in OPAC contain untranslatable javascript messages 12:05 jenkins_koha * matthias.meusburger: Bug 8229: Tabs in marc subfield structure is not shown correctly 12:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7367 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General OPAC typo omnibus 12:05 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8223 - Properly format SQL query in C4::Bookseller::GetBookSeller 12:05 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8216: Allow SIP modules to pass critic tests 12:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8232 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Comments in OPAC contain untranslatable javascript messages 12:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8229 major, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Tabs in marc subfield structure is not shown correctly 12:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8223 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Properly format SQL query in C4::Bookseller::GetBookSeller 12:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8216 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Enable critic tests on SIP modules 12:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #760 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 12:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #60: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/60/ 12:21 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 8136 Changes the expected lenght of 100$a in rebuild_zebra.pl 12:21 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 8136 Changes the expected lenght of 100$a in rebuild_zebra.pl 12:21 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7961 - Local cover images should support CSV link files 12:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8136 normal, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Stable , Changes the expected lenght of 100$a in rebuild_zebra.pl 12:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7961 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , Local cover images should support CSV link files 12:25 oleonard Hi #koha 12:30 * oleonard is grumpy about Koha-Kobli announcements 12:31 jcamins_away They do seem to have some issues with the concept of open source, don't they? 12:32 drojf oleonard: is that a fork? i dont speak spanish 12:32 jcamins Wow. 12:32 oleonard drojf: Yes 12:32 * jcamins reads the actual announcement. 12:32 jcamins Some of the improvements have made it into Koha. 12:33 oleonard Which they acknowledge, interestingly 12:33 magnuse yeah, it's not all bad, i think 12:33 magnuse ...or hope 12:33 jcamins oleonard: of course they do. The improvements by other people are in Koha. 12:33 jcamins oleonard: it's just their own improvements that have not been submitted. 12:34 eythian someone should encourage them to have a public git repo at least 12:35 magnuse looks like they have libraries both on koha and kobli: http://kobli.bage.es/directorio/ 12:37 magnuse i think they were saying the "secret sauce" in kobli is only relevant for spanish state libraries, or something? 12:38 jcamins magnuse: no, they just don't get FOSS. 12:38 jcamins magnuse: they updated the MARC support to Update 14. 12:38 jcamins That is relevant to everyone. 12:38 magnuse ah yes 12:38 magnuse i'm being too optimistic, then :-) 12:39 jcamins They also did not submit their local cover image code. 12:39 jcamins I didn't even know they *had* local cover image code, until I read the release notes saying that they had it before Koha. 12:39 magnuse who writes a polite answer to the list, pointing that out? 12:40 * jcamins did. 12:41 magnuse jcamins++ 12:41 jcamins What's frustrating to me is that a bunch of the contributers to Kobli get it, but they're still not sharing. 12:42 drojf jcamins++ # nice email 12:44 jcamins Thanks. 12:50 eythian when an item is marked "lost", is the issue moved to old_issues at that point? 12:51 mtj eythian: nope 12:51 eythian does it remain in the issues table forever? 12:51 mtj ...only when its returned/checked-in 12:52 mtj afaik, yes - until its returned 12:52 eythian ok. So it looks like an issue, just with the item flagged as lost? 12:53 mtj ah, if its currently onloan - hmm not sure 12:54 mtj my hunch is you're correct 12:54 jcamins eythian: unless you're using long_overdue. 12:54 jcamins In which case it is discharged. 12:54 eythian jcamins: "discharged"? 12:55 jcamins eythian: checked in? 12:56 eythian so, moved to old issues? 12:56 jcamins Right. 12:56 jcamins By long_overdue. 13:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #760: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/760/ 13:12 mtj bug 8110? anyone currently QA-ing 13:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Fines accruing on closed days 13:12 * mtj might have a go at it now... 13:16 * mtj waits a few more minutes... (just in case) 13:19 eythian OK, so science tells me that if you mark an item as lost, it gets moved to old_issues straight away. 13:19 liw eythian, say hi to science from me 13:20 eythian certainly! 13:21 jcamins eythian: That doesn't seem right. But I could be wrong. 13:21 eythian I just checked. It marked it lost, returned the issue, and added a fine 13:22 eythian "returned the issue" => moved the issue to old_issues 13:22 eythian and added a returned date 13:22 jcamins Hm. 13:22 jcamins Ask wizzyrea if it's supposed to do that. 13:23 eythian it doesn't seem like an unreasonable thing for it to do. 13:23 eythian I just need to know so that I can make a migration script replicate what Koha actually does. 13:23 jcamins Not unreasonable, I just don't think that's what it's supposed to be doing. 13:23 oleonard It sounds right to me 13:24 oleonard That is to say, that's what I think it has always done (checked in the item and added a fine) 13:26 mtj to complicate the issue, there a differenct values of 'lost' too :/ 13:26 mtj ... in the auth_values table 13:26 eythian I don't think it matters a whole lot, it's only 0 vs. non-0 I think. 13:26 eythian logic-wise 13:28 mtj ok... sorry - its been a while since i looks at fines stuff :/ 13:29 eythian it certainly doesn't matter for my purposes anyway :) 13:50 kf eythian: my opinion is, that if you mark something lost, you still want to track it 13:50 kf eythian: you want to figure out, where it ended up, who has to pay for it 13:50 eythian right, but both ways that people are describing allow that. 13:51 kf eythian: not if you have privacy turned on and keep no circ history 13:51 kf eythian: so perhaps it's better to leave it on the account until things are sorted out 13:51 kf eythian: there was a blog post about the lost process some time ago on the bywater blog I think 13:51 eythian I'm not changing anything 13:51 eythian I need to mimic the correct way for a migration 13:51 kf no, only trying to think about reasons why it may be like it is :) 13:52 kf as lons as it's in issues you have the borrower number, if it goes to old_issues you may have not 13:53 eythian well, you do because it's in the accounts table 13:54 kf hm accountlines? 13:54 eythian yeah 13:54 kf hm, right 13:54 kf ok, my argument is invalid then :) 13:54 kf ask wizzyrea :) 14:19 mtj bug-8110 just passed-qa - fyi... 14:36 kylemhall has anyone around encountered any problems in koha where you get an 'undefined subroutine' error when trying to call a C4 perl module sub, even though the 'use C4::$Module' is there? I've ran into this problem a couple times and now it appears to be happening on a somewhat regular basis for the SIP server code ( when calling C4::Circulation subs ) for us. 14:39 eythian kylemhall: is the sub being exported/imported? 14:40 eythian not everything is exported automatically by default 14:43 kf eythian: would adding a qw( sub ) with the sub help in that case? or do you need to change something in the module? 14:44 eythian it depends really, but in 99% of cases that's correct 14:44 eythian for that to work, it needs to be listed in the EXPORT_OK section of the module. 14:44 kf thx :) 14:44 eythian (if it's listed in the EXPORT section, then it's exported by default) 14:49 francharb hi 14:52 kylemhall eythian: yes, they subs are exported and even used in other perl scripts without any problems 14:54 eythian hmm. What subs/modules are they? 15:01 reiveune bye 15:05 kylemhall eythian: my compatriate is filing a bug report. I'll post it when it's ready. 15:05 eythian ok 15:12 mtj kylemhall: about for a Q on 'Bug 8253 - Fine doubling'? 15:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8253 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Fine doubling 15:13 mtj im confused about the patch - it looks like its looking for difference 'datetime' formats in the accounts table 15:14 mtj eg: iso,metric.us, etc... ? but isn't the format of the datetime column always the same, ie: iso' ? 15:14 mtj http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=10369 15:15 mtj aah, its the 'description' column, thats getting changed :) 15:17 mtj heh, the accountlines.description column is a datetime type 15:18 kf ... 15:18 kf didn't someone plan to rewrite that? 15:18 * kf looks in eythian's direction :P 15:19 mtj ah nope, its a mediumtext :/ 15:19 eythian yeah, it's been on my list for a while 15:19 eythian unfortunately it's a terrible task 15:20 mtj but hourlyloans feature uses the description column to store a date? 15:20 kf while you are here, I can provide you with chocolate and cookies ;) 15:20 kf mtj: it soudns terrible, doesn't it? 15:21 eythian that does rather 15:22 mtj hmm, so this patch might corrupt legitimate date strings in the description column, when fixing this problem? 15:22 eythian presumably there should be an extra column for a date, rather than using something that's not designed for that? 15:23 eythian unless it's to be purely human readable. 15:23 eythian though, even then... 15:23 mtj take a lil' peek -> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=10369 15:24 mtj the fines code looks to be pulling datetime info from a freetext column called description? 15:25 kf the whole description thing is ugly :( translations!! 15:26 kf and it should not be used like that probably 15:26 mtj so, running this update patch might fix that problem... but corupt other date strings into datetime strings 15:28 mtj oy, and the stored date strings are non ISO even - surely thats a bad thing 15:28 eythian it's all terrible 15:29 eythian (the whole idea of putting dates into a description, that is) 15:29 * kf agrees 15:29 eythian there should be a date field. 15:29 eythian ideally this patch would migrate the data over. 15:29 kf why does the script not calculate with the issuedate? 15:29 kf or no, I mean return datetime 15:30 eythian that'd a) mean we can do SQL math to work with dates, and b) it can be formatted correctly on display. 15:30 kf and is looking at accountlines at all? because it's trying to figure out which fine to update? 15:30 eythian kf: the account system is all round quite nasty. 15:30 eythian Many things access the tables directly. 15:30 eythian Which is why I never finished my rewrite, there was just too much. 15:31 eythian and I ran out of time. 15:31 gaetan_B bye ! 15:33 kf eythian: and people started rewriting it to add features, I know 15:33 eythian that too 15:34 eythian it's a difficult thing to do incrementally, as ideally the whole table structure would be fixed. 15:34 eythian though, if I were redoing it, I probably would make an API and slowly migrate things to using that, and once that's all done, then change the table structure. 15:34 kf hm 15:35 kf Koha:: ? :) 15:35 kf wb paul_p 15:35 mtj yeah... i think we go for the quick-fix on this issue :/ 15:35 kf can someone please find that mail in outlook for me? *sigh* 15:35 paul_p hi kf 15:35 paul_p & all 15:35 mtj ... as the problem code has already made it into stable 15:40 eythian yeah 15:40 eythian it's probably worth fixing properly in the future though 15:40 mtj i wonder what other glitches the date->datetime bug might cause... 15:40 kf mtj: already a lot so far :( 15:42 mtj there cant be *too* many things pulling date info from the accounts.desc table 15:45 jcamins_away mtj: want to bet? 15:49 mtj ha.. nope! :p 15:51 eythian mtj: what are you doing in this timezone anyway? 15:59 jcamins_away paul_p: what needs to be done for bug 6557? 15:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6557 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , biblioitems.totalissues unused 15:59 kf eythian: I stopped to wonder about that 16:00 kf jcamins_away: now you scared paul away :) 16:00 jcamins_away Aww. 16:00 jcamins_away I didn't mean to! 16:00 jcamins_away kf: could you sign off on bug 8205 again? 16:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8205 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Should be possible to hide unused authorities in OPAC 16:00 jcamins_away Wait, no, not that one. 16:01 jcamins_away Bug 6720. 16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Saved authorities always show as 'Default' 16:01 jcamins_away I rewrote the patch. 16:06 kf jcamins_away: I have the exam on friday :( 16:06 kf after that travelling till tuesday - maybe you want to ask someone else? 16:06 jcamins_away kf: I will do that. 16:08 jcamins_away nengard: would you like to sign off on my patch for bug 6720? It's very easy, and I think you ran into the problem recently. 16:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Saved authorities always show as 'Default' 16:08 nengard I'm not sure what but that is, but I'm documentating the authorities stuff right now in the manual - I'll sign off when done with this 16:08 * jcamins hopes he won't scare paul_p away if he asks about bug 6557 again. :) 16:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6557 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , biblioitems.totalissues unused 16:09 jcamins nengard: thanks. It's the bug that makes the authority type not show up in the OPAC. 16:09 paul_p jcamins = don't worry, it's on my list ! 16:09 jcamins paul_p: I just wanted to check whether you needed any further clarification. 16:11 eythian Why is 'ExtendedPatronAttributes' a syspref? Can't we just have it be "use attributes if they're defined, don't if they're not"? 16:12 jcamins eythian: this sounds like a cause for FAUSP. :) 16:12 eythian heh 16:13 paul_p FAUSP president jump in !!! 16:13 paul_p :D 16:14 jcamins paul_p: I thought you might want to comment on that. 16:15 kf eythian: I agree :) and it's annoying because I always forge tto turn it on :) 16:15 jcamins There does seem to be a strong argument for removing the ExtendedPatronAttributes syspref. 16:16 nengard jcamins can you please review this - and tell me things I can add to make it clear to the average cataloger? http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commitdiff;h=723201cc522a56f9a027ed147b468e0891b5f60c 16:17 nengard most of the new stuff is at the bottomw 16:17 nengard bottom 16:20 jcamins Sure. 16:56 jcamins nengard_lunch: you seem to be missing some authority-related sysprefs. AutoCreateAuthorities, for example. 16:57 nengard_lunch is that the only one? 16:58 jcamins I'm not sure yet. 16:58 jcamins I wanted to check I was looking at the same version you were. 17:11 jcamins Other than AutoCreateAuthorities, that looks good. 17:11 jcamins And I should submit a patch that changes the description of BiblioAddsAuthorities, since "Allow" is kind of a vague word. 17:13 nengard jcamins I'll add the missing pref in - is the rest as detailed as it can be? 17:14 jcamins I think I might make the LinkerRelink description a little more explicit: When set to 'Do', the linker will confirm the links for headings that have previously been linked to an authority record when it runs, correcting any incorrect links it may find. When set to 'Do not', any heading with an existing link will be ignored, even if the existing link is invalid or incorrect. 17:18 paul_p had to switch to another wifi spot... and bugzilla seems to go down in the meantime ! 17:19 jcamins paul_p: up for me. 17:19 paul_p jcamins = not for me :\\\ 17:20 nengard thanks jcamins - I'll update that and have pushed the missing preference 17:20 jcamins paul_p: hm, this is a big problem. :( 17:20 jcamins paul_p: I don't see any way for you to push patches. ;) 17:21 paul_p jcamins right, that's my problem !!! 17:21 paul_p (maybe I could go to dinner, and things will be solved after dinner !) 17:21 jcamins paul_p: is there a proxy you could use? 17:26 * paul_p switches to BibLibre VPN bbs 17:26 paul_p ... and it solved my problem = bugzilla OK again 17:44 paul_p OK, time for dinner, see ya ! 17:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8006 - Loading offline circulation does not anonymize <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3bcfc4f829289081d94481f281ef8ac26ac3ab6> / Bug : DataTables integration in acquisition module [1] <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3f16aa97dfc821473e890502624806f0fbe25b9> / Bug 8099: DataTables integration in acquisition module [2] <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb 17:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #761 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:23 kylemhall can someone *please* so bug 8253? It fixes an important bug that affects anyone upgrading from 3.6.x to 3.8.x 18:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8253 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Fine doubling 18:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #761: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/761/ 18:41 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 8183 - acqui/parcels.pl plack scoping 18:41 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 8180 - cataloguing/additem.pl plack scoping 18:41 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8152: Clicking cancel link on edit suggestion redirect to the suggestions list 18:41 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5345: DataTables integration in acquisition module [7] 18:41 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5345: DataTables integration in acquisition module [12] 18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8183 minor, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , acqui/parcels.pl plack scoping 18:41 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8102: DataTables integration in acquisition module [14] 18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8180 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , cataloguing/additem.pl plack scoping 18:41 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8100: DataTables integration in acquisition module [8] 18:41 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8099: DataTables integration in acquisition module [2] 18:42 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug : DataTables integration in acquisition module [1] 18:42 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8006 - Loading offline circulation does not anonymize 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8152 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Clicking cancel on edit suggestion redirect to the suggestion detail 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , DataTables in Koha 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8102 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , DataTables in Acquisision module: supplier.tt 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8100 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , DataTables in Acquisision module: neworderbiblio.tt 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8099 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , DataTables in Acquisision module: acqui-home.tt 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8006 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Loading offline circulation does not anonymize 18:49 jcamins sekjal: I don't see why you shouldn't QA follow-up patches that implement your QA comments. In fact, it seems to me that's the way it *should* work. That way we can be sure that the issues have been dealt with. 18:50 sekjal jcamins: thanks. I just want to be sure that I'm doing things transparently, and if anyone doesn't agree with me, they have an opportunity to say so 18:50 jcamins Well, certainly no objection from me. 18:50 jcamins :) 18:51 sekjal cool 19:42 oleonard I'm starting to add some info to the wiki on usage of the new jQueryUI stuff: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Using_jQueryUI_widgets 19:42 oleonard I've got tabs and datepickers covered so far 19:44 oleonard rangi++ # for testing my revised datepicker patch 19:45 cait he beat me to it :) 19:45 cait oleonard++ for awesome changes 19:46 cait is all yui gone now except for menus? 19:46 oleonard Almost. There's some drag and drop stuff in basketgroups I think 19:47 cait oh yes 19:47 oleonard There's an autocomplete in a UNIMARC plugin that I couldn't figure out how to trigger or test 19:47 cait didn't know that was based on youi too 19:47 cait yui 19:48 cait maybe open a bug for it and ask biblibre? 19:48 cait or someone else using unimarc 19:49 oleonard That's a good idea. I mentioned it on the autocomplete bug but it would be good to have a separate one 19:56 cait brb 20:00 rangi Hmm bug 8110 has still not had any functional testing, or testing with different sysprefs 20:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Fines accruing on closed days 20:02 talljoy @seen dpavlin 20:02 huginn talljoy: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 2 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: * dpavlin leaves his keyboard to go to coffee with sister, sorry. BRB 20:02 talljoy that's one heck of a coffee break.... 20:02 oleonard Knowing dpavlin he's still drinking coffee 20:03 talljoy i've got a lithuanian library that has well....lithuanian characters that don't exist in word-phrase-utf.chr. was hoping he could provide me a list of what they may be. 20:03 sekjal rangi: I'm seeing several recorded comments about successful tests of 8110, though not with different syspref arrangements 20:04 rangi Only of the unit tests 20:04 rangi Which were also changed 20:04 rangi United tests are a backstop 20:04 rangi Not a replacement for actual testing 20:05 sekjal rangi: you're correct, it is all unit test runs. huh 20:05 rangi Stupid autocomplete 20:07 sekjal the meat of the fix is just reversing the order of a multi-hash call.... month -> day instead of the other way around 20:08 oleonard Shhh, she's back! 20:08 francharb 0/ all 20:08 rangi Yes, I'm unconvinced that is the fix for non us dates 20:09 rangi Without testing it 20:09 cait oleonard: I am not using 3.8 ;) 20:09 cait no idea what it's about, but maybe the bug with the fine description change 20:09 rangi Ahh well not my problem until it's kind master anyway 20:09 oleonard I was just kidding cait 20:10 rangi Given 3.8.2 releases tomorrow its unlikely to make it 20:10 francharb speaking of kidding 20:10 francharb http://lizprincepower.com/comics/catspiracies-part-2 20:10 francharb ;) 20:10 francharb it doesn't help to whatever you are working on 20:11 rangi Pushing stuff last minute got us where we are now 20:11 francharb but still 20:11 cait talljoy: maybe use icu? 20:11 francharb :) 20:11 talljoy not an option at the moment. but i know that will fix it good, cait. ;-) 20:11 cait ah 20:11 cait why not an option? 20:11 rangi francharb++ 20:11 talljoy because i konw diddly-squat about it and no time to learn it. heh 20:11 cait sorry, being curious, because we are using it for one of our libraries and they quite like it :) 20:12 cait ah 20:12 cait you don#t have to learn now, it's an option during installatoin now 20:12 francharb :) 20:12 cait so quite easy to set up 20:12 talljoy cait. i will ask our sysadmin about that. thanks 20:13 cait talljoy: was added for 3.8 I think - we are still using the older setup where you had to copy some files and change some lines 20:13 francharb cait, talljoy, I'm not entirelly sure about that 20:13 francharb but I noticed that if you use ICU 20:13 francharb you also need to activate the fuzzy search syspref 20:14 cait yeah 20:14 francharb is it right cait ? 20:14 cait there is something about the sysprefs not totally working with icu 20:14 cait I mean, some combinations are problematic 20:14 sekjal rangi: 8110 returned to Needs Signoff 20:14 cait but I think it might be a bit better in 3.8 and I could look up our current setup at work 20:14 rangi Thanks 20:15 francharb cait, so now, I'm pretty sure that if fuzzy needs to be turned on 20:15 francharb :) 20:15 cait :) 20:15 cait it might be :) 20:15 rangi My stop bbiab 20:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6774 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=40323adcc24682c4d4232086eb159def61305559> / Bug 6774 Display barcode on OPAC detail page(Correcting Typo). <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58367389573dbf99a09e1b67c1a98baf499d8075> / Bug 7447 allow to specify a date in overdue_notice.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi 20:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #762 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:23 oleonard Is there a way to create a patch with just the changes to one of many changed files? 20:25 cait hm you already committed the changes? 20:25 oleonard Yes 20:26 cait hmm I am sure there is a way... but not sure how 20:26 cait is it only the last commit? 20:26 cait or more than one? 20:26 oleonard The last one 20:26 wahanui somebody said the last one was the first one if you look backwards. 20:26 oleonard Very profound wahanui 20:27 cait I am usre there is a better way to do it, but you could switch to a new branch 20:27 sekjal okay, gtg 20:27 sekjal have a good <localtime>, #koha 20:27 cait git reset --soft HEAD^ 20:27 cait and only git add the one file and make a new commit with that and a patch out of it 20:27 jcamins slef: around? 20:28 * oleonard will think about it more tomorrow 20:28 * oleonard waves goodbye to all 20:29 cait bye oleonard 20:29 rangi back 20:30 * jcamins wonders about the request to be listed by library co-op. 20:30 rangi hmm? 20:31 jcamins On the list. 20:31 jcamins Doesn't slef work for the library co-op? 20:31 rangi no 20:31 rangi software.coop 20:31 jcamins Oh. 20:31 jcamins Okay. 20:31 rangi these are some librarians, its a cool idea 20:31 rangi i met them at kohacon12, so no objections from me 20:31 jcamins That makes sense. 20:32 jcamins I was going to ask slef how to know when to contact him versus the other person, but I guess they're different companies. 20:32 jcamins slef: never mind. 20:32 rangi the idea being you can choose your software support provider and then have them do your training/cataloguing etc 20:33 cait hm which mail are we talking about? 20:33 cait never mind, found it 20:34 jcamins Makes sense to me. 20:34 * wizzyrea didn't see any requirements unmet 20:35 rangi cait: you met andrea at kohacon eh? 20:35 rangi !jenkins build koha_3.8.x now 20:35 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_3.8.x build scheduled now 20:36 * jcamins didn't either. 20:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #61 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #59 11 hr ago) 20:36 cait rangi: I think I missed her :( 20:36 cait or maybe... and I only can't put face an dname togethe rnow 20:36 rangi ahh curly hair 20:39 cait tall? 20:40 rangi yup 20:44 cait k :) 20:44 rangi i think bug 8226 is safe to push to 3.8,x now eh? any dissension? 20:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8226 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , 'OpacFooter' markup/css improvements 20:45 cait nope 20:49 wizzyrea i'm cool with it 20:50 rangi thanks 20:53 talljoy cait, just finished wrestling that install from 3.6 to 3.8 (git install) I see in 3.8 there is a system preference for using ICU. Do I need additional files on the server to support this or do I simply switch this on and hope for the best? 20:53 jcamins talljoy: it does not in any way change your indexing. 20:53 jcamins talljoy: you will need to install all the ICU configuration files. 20:53 talljoy that's what i thought 20:53 rangi sekjal++ for the test plan 20:55 talljoy jcamins, where can i find a list of the files I need to install? Is there a bug or page on the wiki? 20:56 jcamins talljoy: it's dealt with by the installer now. 20:56 jcamins @query icu 20:56 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5958 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Availability Limit with icu 20:56 talljoy that's not an option for me 20:56 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5968 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , News display on opac-main.pl is particular about browser language settings 20:56 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5192 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jwagner, REOPENED , Add new index and search option for 658 curriculum field 20:56 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6933 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add a view of titles with a particular tag to the staff client 20:56 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Add ICU option to Koha out of the box 20:56 jcamins Bug 7698. 20:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Add ICU option to Koha out of the box 20:56 jcamins You can look at what that does. 20:56 talljoy thx 20:57 jcamins You can also look in the installer, of course, to see how it goes about rewriting files. 20:59 jcamins rangi: early 3.8.2 release. 20:59 rangi hmm 22nd? 20:59 wahanui 22nd is release 20:59 rangi what wahanui said 21:00 jcamins Oh, tomorrow is 21 for me. 21:00 rangi yup, 22nd for me :) 21:00 * jcamins forgot about that. 21:02 jcamins talljoy: also keep in mind that you do have to do a complete reindex when you enable ICU. 21:03 cait rangi: eek 21:03 talljoy i figured 21:03 cait I didn't finish translations! 21:03 drojf i did not even start translation *blush* 21:03 drojf cait: do you have 3.8 libraries? 21:03 cait no 21:03 drojf ok 21:04 cait but sonner or later :) 21:04 rangi the only ones who have, are chinese taiwan 21:04 drojf later :) 21:04 rangi http://translate.koha-community.org/projects/38/ 21:05 drojf i got somewhat caught up in this pi thing 21:06 rangi heh 21:07 cait drojf: heh 21:07 cait why were you asking? 21:08 rangi cait: do you ahve admin privileges on pootle? 21:09 cait yes 21:09 drojf because it would be more urgent if somebody actually used it in production i guess 21:09 rangi can you allow my user to upload .po files and overwrite for 3.8.x 21:09 rangi en-NZ 21:09 rangi i can for 3.6 and 3.4 but not 3.8 21:09 rangi can only merge which keeps making stuff fuzzy again 21:10 cait oki 21:10 cait give me a sec 21:10 cait you are rangi? 21:10 rangi chrisc i think 21:11 rangi yup chrisc 21:12 cait try now :) 21:13 rangi yay! thanks 21:15 jcamins Hm. I'm thinking sbuild may not be the way to go. 21:16 jcamins The documentation is basically entirely non-existant. 21:19 rangi clrh++ #number 185 21:20 cait 185? 21:20 rangi yep 21:20 cait oooh 21:20 jcamins That's too bad. 21:20 cait 185! 21:20 jcamins I would've really liked to use sbuild. 21:20 cait clrh++ !! 21:21 jcamins But the whole "does nothing, with no output, and no one offers any examples of *actually* using it" problem makes it not quite what I need. 21:22 cait hmm 21:22 cait the twitter git thingy has wrong links :( 21:24 jcamins How many times can I set up Debian in the space of a few days? 21:24 * jcamins goes for a new record. 21:24 cait does it mean many new customres? 21:24 jcamins cait: no, I just can't get sbuild to work. 21:24 cait or just breaking one install after the other? ;) 21:25 jcamins So I'm on my third go with debootstrap. 21:26 jcamins Found it! 21:27 jcamins You have to do debuild *first* 21:27 jcamins Way to not explain these things. 21:30 jcamins Why don't we use git-buildpackage? 21:31 rangi because the building works very now, and is debian compliant? 21:31 rangi very well even 21:32 paul_p OK, 11:30PM here, something like 50 patches pushed today, time to go to bed !!! 21:32 paul_p have a good day #koha ! 21:32 jcamins rangi: it does, other than the sudo requirement. 21:32 drojf paul_p++ 21:32 rangi needing sudo to build packages doesnt seem like an issue to me 21:32 rangi but meh 21:32 jcamins However, git-buildpackage doesn't fix that. 21:33 rangi not needing sudo to chroot and mount stuff on your file system would worry me a hell of a lot more actually 21:33 jcamins As far as I can tell, git-buildpackage does exactly what debian/build-git-snapshot does, but without us needing to patch it every release. 21:33 rangi i doubt it does some of the stuff we do with the config files and xmlstarlet 21:33 jcamins rangi: I don't like the idea of having (nopasswd) on sudo. 21:34 rangi who the hell does that? 21:34 * rangi uses ssh-agent 21:35 jcamins rangi: if I want to use pbuilder entirely unattended, that seems to be the only way? 21:35 rangi ssh-agent 21:36 rangi you will have to unlock the key on reboot, but other than that 21:37 jcamins Is there some way to set sudo up to use SSH keys? I thought it used passwords. 21:37 rangi ah i have a vm i ssh into as root 21:37 rangi using ssh-agent 21:38 rangi and build in there 21:38 jcamins Ah. 21:38 * jcamins is trying to avoid adding an additional VM for right now. 21:38 rangi but gnome and other things can remember your sudo authentication too 21:39 jcamins But then I'd still have to log in, first. 21:39 rangi yep on reboot at least 21:39 jcamins I think I don't quite understand how this works. 21:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8272 - OPAC : date expiration format <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=19d30206df473ff6d801f15063f6837225b004bf> / Bug 8043 - today's checkouts are in Previous checkouts in circulation.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3768602ae73f7ce90481abd6fe0b0fe519b4fd46> / Bug 8251 - Patrons get incorrectly debarred <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a 21:40 rangi you can change the sudo timeout 21:41 rangi Defaults:build_user timestamp_timeout=some long time 21:41 jcamins Ah, so then I would only have to enter the password once a day, or something like that. 21:41 rangi yep 21:41 jcamins Okay, that is acceptable to me. 21:41 rangi well or even less 21:41 jcamins Thanks. 21:42 rangi assuming you built once a day 21:42 rangi :) 21:42 rangi ie its from last time you used it 21:42 rangi as long as you call sudo before the timeout, it will extend .. that make sense? 21:42 jcamins So if I have cron running a build every 12 hours, and a timeout of one day, it shouldn't need a password until next reboot. 21:42 jcamins Yes, that does. 21:44 jcamins I think I like git-dch, though. 21:44 jcamins Or at least the idea. 21:45 jcamins (this is entirely separate from the sudo problem, which you have now solved:) 21:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #762: SUCCESS in 1 hr 31 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/762/ 21:50 jenkins_koha * claire.hernandez: Bug 7994: scripts to check yaml files 21:50 jenkins_koha * claire.hernandez: Bug 7994: Fix pref yaml errors 21:50 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7955: Statistics tab for Patron checkouts 21:50 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7955 follow-up DBRev number 21:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7994 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire.hernandez, Pushed to Master , Syntax error in yaml (syspref) files 21:50 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7955 follow-up spelling fixes 21:50 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7857 - invalidate cached preferences after SetVersion 21:50 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7857 - database upgrade fails with plack 21:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7955 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Statistics tab in patron module 21:50 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7857 - [SIGNED-OFF] database upgrade fails with plack 21:50 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 7642 - remove the cloud weight from the tags 21:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7857 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , database upgrade fails with plack 21:50 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Adding Claire Hernandez as contributor + adding missing contributors in about.tt 21:50 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7447 allow to specify a date in overdue_notice.pl 21:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7642 minor, P5 - low, ---, stacey, Pushed to Master , The number that appears when hovering over a tag in the tag cloud isn't the number of items with that tag 21:50 jenkins_koha * amit.gupta: Bug 6774 Display barcode on OPAC detail page(Correcting Typo). 21:50 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6774 follow-up DBRev number 21:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7447 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Allow to specify a date in overdue_notice.pl 21:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6774 enhancement, P3, ---, amit.gupta, Pushed to Master , Display barcode on OPAC detail page 21:51 jcamins I can't believe I didn't know there was a way to make sudo not ask my password every time I ran pbuilder. 21:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #763 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:10 francharb bye all 22:17 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 22:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #61: FIXED in 1 hr 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/61/ 22:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #62 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED) 23:08 rangi http://vim.sourceforge.net/scripts/script.php?script_id=695 23:38 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #763: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/763/ 23:38 jenkins_koha * maxime.pelletier: bug 6634 : 3 more cases of manager_id not populated 23:38 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 5910: allow users to search on all auth types 23:38 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 5910: [SIGNED-OFF] only add "All authority types" for UNIMARC 23:38 jenkins_koha * meenakshi.r: Bug 4255 - Add item type to facet list 23:38 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 3708 - Add another customizable region to the OPAC: right sidebar nav 23:38 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 3708 follow-up DBRev number 23:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6634 normal, P3, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , manager_id not populated when paying fines 23:38 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8267 - Overdue notices not working 23:38 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8154: The export today's checked in barcodes generated file is always empty 23:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5910 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Authorities : allow users to search on all auth types 23:38 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 8251 - Patrons get incorrectly debarred 23:38 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8043 - today's checkouts are in Previous checkouts in circulation.pl 23:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4255 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Master , Add item type to facet list 23:38 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8272 - OPAC : date expiration format 23:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3708 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add another customizable region to the OPAC: right sidebar 23:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8267 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Overdue notices not working 23:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8154 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The export today's checked in barcodes generated file is always empty 23:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin 23:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8043 normal, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , today's checkouts are in Previous checkouts in circulation.pl 23:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8272 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , OPAC : date expiration format 23:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #764 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #762 3 hr 20 min ago) 23:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #62: SUCCESS in 1 hr 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/62/ 23:57 jenkins_koha * mtj: patch for Bug 8226 - 'OpacFooter' markup/css improvements 23:57 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8222 - make the zipcode no longer mandatory 23:57 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7368 Followup for history.txt Only correcting whitespace for correct placement in about form 23:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8226 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , 'OpacFooter' markup/css improvements 23:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8222 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , The zip code field is mandatory by default 23:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus