Time Nick Message 23:44 drojf ah, ok 23:44 eythian it's there now, just have one or two things still to add to it 23:44 eythian oh, I'm adding 3.6 to the k-c repo, so there'll be an "oldstable" distrib on it. 23:43 drojf do 23:43 drojf or what di you mean by oldstable? 23:42 drojf it may or may not be relevant that i changed the path so i get no complains about missing arm packages 23:42 drojf i used deb http://apt.cpbibliography.com/koha dists/3.6.x/main/binary-i386/ 23:40 eythian drojf: you were using "oldstable"? 23:40 eythian will double check that some time 23:40 eythian hmm curious 23:39 drojf wasn't there for me ;) 23:38 wajasu thx 23:38 eythian (though the 3.6 repo isn't really quite official yet) 23:38 eythian drojf: that should also be in the 3.6 repo, fwiw 23:37 drojf jcamins_away: i think the dependency i had to get from the 3.8 repo to install 3.6 was libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl 23:37 eythian Not sure, hopefully early in the week 23:37 wajasu so when do you think you will have those new deps available? i can work on something else until those are ready. 23:36 eythian by the end of the cycle they tend to diverge slightly with package-specific changes, but they always go into upstream master 23:35 eythian I think (aside from changelog changes) the squeeze packages are exactly 3.8 23:35 eythian yeah 23:35 wajasu ok. so for patches against the latest release, I'm ok. 23:34 eythian squeeze tracks current stable 23:34 eythian squeeze-dev tracks master 23:34 eythian I tend to build against unstable actually, it gives me forewarning of packages going away. 23:34 wajasu and what does squeeze-dev give me over squeeze? 23:34 eythian I don't 23:33 wajasu should i be putting squeeze and main after the mirror? 23:33 wajasu i did pbuilder create --othermirror 'deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main' --mirror http://ftp.utexas.edu/debian 23:31 eythian and writes them into debian/control 23:31 eythian it just regenerates the list of dependencies 23:30 wajasu haven't use that yet. 23:30 eythian and I have a patch in bugzilla to make it understand the ones that don't exist in debian 23:30 eythian (automagically) 23:30 eythian debian/update-control will do that where it can 23:30 eythian yeah 23:30 wajasu for my understanding, will you then add those to the debian/control file as a dependency on master? 23:29 eythian probably best for now :) 23:28 wajasu so i'll set my branch back to v3.08.01 23:28 eythian so I'm going to create some and put them in the koha repo 23:27 eythian s/yet// 23:27 eythian wajasu: well, the CHI etc. packages don't exist in Debian squeeze yet 23:27 wajasu what do you guys change. the debian/... control files? or should i wait. or should I just git clone, and in my branch use v3.08.01 for now. 23:26 eythian I'm working on packaging those 23:26 eythian wajasu: yep 23:25 wajasu i guess to build-git-snapshot, one needs CHI CHI::Driver::Memcached and Template::Plugin::HtmlToText 23:20 drojf for 3.8 all seemed to be there, it was more some problem with koha-create 23:19 jcamins_away It's XS for me. 23:19 jcamins_away eythian: but do they have it in the raspberry pi repo yet? 23:19 drojf jcamins_away: i had to get one dependency from the 3.8 repo before i could install 3.6 23:19 eythian that's in regular debian, I think 23:18 jcamins_away DateTime. 23:18 eythian I don't have any non-pure-perl ones built. 23:17 eythian there are, I'm curious about what they are 23:17 jcamins_away eythian: there are a few extra dependencies for 3.8 that will be problems with ARM. 23:15 eythian oh, a little while ago :) 23:14 drojf mom 23:14 drojf ;) 23:14 drojf when did you sneak in? 23:14 eythian I don't think they should be hugely different 23:14 eythian drojf: what issues with 3.8 did you have? 23:13 drojf cjh: i tried to document the setup but ran in problems with the deb packages for 3.8 (not pi-related i think). i re-did it with jcamins_away's 3.6 repo. i try to write it down over the weekend. basically i just tweaked apt to use the repo (that has no official arm packages) and used packages. 23:11 cjh rangi: wb :) 23:11 cjh drojf: do you have any notes on the set up you used? (ie web server, distro, etc.) 23:11 wajasu coolbeans 23:11 drojf raspberry pi is arm-based 23:11 cjh resberry is an arm based mini computer, kind of :) 23:10 wajasu or is rasberry an arm-based cpu 23:10 cjh drojf: awesome. 23:10 wajasu give some stats/benchmark so when folks run it on arm, they can compare. 23:09 jcamins_away drojf++ 23:09 drojf for the record: koha runs on a raspberry pi. slooowly 23:09 drojf :) 23:04 jcamins_away Heh. 23:02 rangi weird being back in the timezone where everyone is asleep again 22:02 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 22:02 jcamins @later tell cait Updated patch on bug 8256. 21:50 huginn 04Bug 8135: critical, P1 - high, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Services Directory and itemrecorddisplay.pl File Missing After Install 21:50 gml cait: it was http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8135 21:50 gml cait: found error from yesterday 21:47 jcamins Plus, pbuilder requires proc. 21:47 jcamins wajasu: you have to do something complicated to get pbuilder to go somewhere other than /var/cache/pbuilder. 21:43 wajasu i build the tar.gz, and there is a point where it untars, but now its trying to untar /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz as koha, and since the chroot failed using fakeroot(i think), its trying to do it in my VM. 21:40 jcamins build-git-snapshot uses sudo to do that. 21:39 jcamins pbuilder must run as root. 21:39 jcamins No, the script runs as your Koha user. 21:39 jcamins So you have to either have sshfs remap uid 0 to your koha user (no idea how to do that) or mount via root. 21:39 wajasu so that script must run as root. 21:39 jcamins pbuilder uses chroot. 21:38 jcamins Yes, that would be the problem. 21:38 wajasu even though i run it as my "koha" user. i am using sshfs, and -o allow_other 21:38 jcamins Alternatively, you are mounting in userspace? 21:36 jcamins wajasu: it should be shelling out to sudo. 21:35 wajasu so close 21:35 wajasu now with build-git-snapshot i get Cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: Permission denied 21:34 cait night all :) 21:28 rangi wow its pouring 21:26 wajasu i changed BUILDPLACE /var/cache/pbuilder/build to get it to write to mounted filesystem for space. 21:04 jcamins You're welcome. 21:03 drojf thanks 21:03 * magnuse wanders off again 21:03 jcamins apt.cpbibliography.com/koha 3.6.x main 21:03 magnuse yay! 21:03 jcamins drojf: I do. 21:03 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (10:50 PM CEST on June 15, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 21:03 magnuse @wunder boo 20:57 drojf if so, where is it? 20:57 drojf jcamins: do you still have that 3.6 repo? 20:55 wajasu :o 20:55 jcamins wajasu: you're out of diskspace. 20:55 wajasu using build-git support, but get tar: koha-build/labels: Cannot mkdir: No space left on device 20:24 wizzyrea a bit warm, but gorgeous 20:24 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 29.2°C (3:23 PM CDT on June 15, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 20:24 wizzyrea @wunder 66049 20:22 rangi yeah, staying inside with the heater on I think 20:22 cait indoor activities then? 20:21 rangi nope, its yuck 20:20 cait not really outdoor weather 20:20 cait hm 20:13 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on June 16, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). 20:13 rangi @wunder nzwn 20:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7952 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , PDF::Reuse under plack writes to console STDOUT instead to browser 20:09 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7952 - followup to fix t/Creators.t 20:09 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7952 - PDF::Reuse under plack writes to console STDOUT instead to browser 20:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #55: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/55/ 20:01 cait jcamins: aorund? 19:55 * cait waves 19:55 rangi hi brylie_ 19:47 rangi http://www.ptfs-europe.com/kohacon12-2/ 19:47 rangi http://drupal.biblibre.com/fr/blog/billet/la-kohacon-2012-est-termin%C3%A9e 19:47 rangi definitely not drojf, you should try to catch eythian next time he is around, he is still in your timezone :) 19:35 cait sorry, still haven't played with the packages 19:35 drojf it should not try to delete a different user than it tried to create?! 19:35 drojf debian 19:35 cait are you installing on ubuntu? 19:34 cait looks like mysql 19:34 drojf either i am missing something or there is a problem with the package?! 19:34 drojf i get 'ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation CREATE USER failed for 'name'@'%''on :8080 i then see Unknown database 'koha2' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 758. and severl more lines of errors. when i then use 'koha-remove name' i get 'ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_koha2'@'%'' 19:34 drojf when i use 'koha-create --create-db name' 19:32 cait I think all the rest can be easily done with reports 19:31 cait ... and makes it even easier to get your data out of Koha 19:30 jcamins :) 19:24 cait works perfectly 19:24 cait amazing auth export :) 19:24 cait jcamins++ 19:22 cait rangi++ ... of course I had the syntax wrong, my marc files read quite nicely now 19:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #55 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:08 cait lol 19:07 * mle goes out for another bottle of wine 19:07 * mle looks at that pile of video editing 19:06 * rangi will bbiab 19:05 rangi oooh an awake 3 year old 19:04 rangi the bus system in edinburgh is really quite fantastic 19:04 drojf i have my edinburgh with me, bottled 19:04 rangi i luckily could catch the n22 night bus, which left just around the corner from our hotel 19:04 * drojf drinks innis & gunn rum finish 19:02 cait but the view was nice 19:02 cait I was all sweaty carrying around all my stuff when I reached waverly :( 19:02 rangi but i had a window seat so i got a great view 19:02 cait yeah 19:02 mle indeed 19:02 rangi heh, the morning i flew out, was the best weather we'd had :) 19:02 mle its "warm" here, "warm" and "dry" 19:01 mle ahoy from sunny embrah 19:01 rangi hey mle :) 19:00 cait I should looked in my wiki 19:00 cait hmm 19:00 rangi right? 19:00 rangi marcdump file | less 18:59 cait Couldn't open less: Died at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File.pm line 71. 18:59 cait or does it not work because it's authorities? 18:59 cait should I be able to use marcdump less on the exported files? 18:59 * wajasu testing building debian packages in my koha dev VM ( using robin's build-git-snapshot) 18:59 cait hmm 18:57 sekjal have a great [timeofday], #koha! 18:57 sekjal I'm going to head back to my office, and get some UMass-related work done before I leave 18:57 jcamins Good morning, rangi. 18:57 jcamins sekjal++ 18:57 jcamins Yay! 18:56 mle rangi : ) 18:56 rangi yay sekjal 18:56 sekjal well, my scholarly retreat time is just about over. QAQ under 10, as I'd hoped. I think I can be satisfied with today's work 18:55 cait good morning rangi :) 18:55 cait sounds like you needed it 18:54 wizzyrea good stuff! 18:54 rangi 12 hours sleep :) 18:54 * wizzyrea is impressed you're awake 18:54 wizzyrea heya! 18:53 wizzyrea imo. 18:53 rangi morning 18:53 wizzyrea the big buttons look dumb on both sides though. 18:46 wizzyrea heh. 18:46 SJeffery It kinda looks like someone reworked the left side and then stopped. 18:46 wizzyrea well I have my window up pretty big. 18:45 cait wizzyrea: lots of free space on one side, almost no space on the other 18:45 wizzyrea yes, we could all do well to hear that voice in our heads now and again 18:45 cait dpavlin: heh 18:45 cait more room between lines 18:45 jcamins cait: attached a new patch. 18:45 dpavlin cait: I can hear Marijana's voice in my head: "I will have to send e-mail to librarians about this change" 18:45 wizzyrea such as? 18:45 cait maybe with some css tweaking to the right side? 18:44 cait hm 18:44 wizzyrea hm, not sure how I feel about this: http://screencast.com/t/RmcLaMre9l 18:44 cait oleonard++ for shiny new tabs 18:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8202 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add authorities to export tool 18:40 cait bug 8202 18:40 jcamins After I finish this commit. 18:40 cait moving on to the other 18:40 * jcamins will fix the marclist issue. 18:40 cait k 18:40 jcamins Yeah, I'll do that in a follow-up. 18:40 jcamins It does indeed. 18:40 cait the see from option is gone 18:40 jcamins Hm. 18:39 jcamins I could have uploaded the wrong patch. 18:39 cait marclist seems doubled up to me 18:39 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/453 18:39 cait perhaps it's just me getting it wrong 18:39 jcamins With the warnings. 18:39 cait let me show you my paste 18:39 jcamins I thought I fixed it. 18:39 cait hm? 18:39 cait it seems to me 18:39 jcamins That was the problem you pointed out to me earlier. 18:39 jcamins cait: we have two fields with the same name still? 18:38 cait and wonder why we have 2 fields with the same name? not sure if that's intended? 18:38 cait I am looking at the html form 18:38 cait jcamins: hmm 18:37 jcamins I rebased it just a few minutes ago. 18:37 jcamins I would think so. 18:36 cait it also applies ;) 18:36 jcamins Indeed it is. :) 18:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC 18:35 wahanui bug 8206 is ready for your sign off. 18:35 cait bug 8206 18:26 sekjal is that what everyone else is seeing? 18:26 sekjal so, the difference (I think) is whether we let some of the multiple holds go through, or if we say "Hey, too many, go change your selection to less than X" 18:25 sekjal in fact, given the warning message, I'm sure it doesn't 18:25 sekjal all in all, it seems simpler and more direct. but it may not do the iterative calculation that the first does 18:23 sekjal I like the second patches' warning message in the OPAC 18:20 wizzyrea ;) 18:20 wizzyrea you know the one. 18:20 * wizzyrea gives sekjal "the look" 18:20 sekjal easy: stop doing holds 18:20 jcamins sekjal: right. And without any sort of global holds limit, there's no way around that. 18:19 wizzyrea hold limits are currently totally broken 18:19 wizzyrea from anywhere, I think 18:18 sekjal so the root of the problem is that doing multiple holds at once from the results list bypasses the limit? 18:18 * jcamins isn't. I was fine with the first patch. 18:18 wizzyrea i'm a waffler. 18:17 wizzyrea i know but ... 18:17 jcamins At least, that's what it looked like to me. 18:17 jcamins wizzyrea: the second patch is a rewrite of the first. 18:16 sekjal wizzyrea: reading patches, will try to formulate an informed opinion 18:16 wizzyrea or do you have an opinion on that because… that really needs to be fixed. 18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6976 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , User hold limit can be avoided by users in OPAC 18:16 wizzyrea sekjal - opinion - on bug 6976 which fix do you think is better? 18:15 sekjal paul_p will have plenty of work for Monday :) 18:15 wizzyrea sekjal++ 18:15 sekjal QAQ = 9 18:14 * wizzyrea returns from lunch 18:13 jcamins My change worked. 18:13 jcamins Cool. 18:10 jcamins Yup. 18:09 cait ah report name? 18:09 cait selection by name? 18:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Reports webservice should allow selection by name 18:09 jcamins Bug 8256 18:09 jcamins No. 18:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8255 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Local cover images should be cacheable 18:09 jcamins Bug 8255. 18:08 cait what are you working on? 18:08 cait oh 18:07 * jcamins carries on. 18:07 jcamins Surprisingly few places, actually. 18:06 cait too many? 18:05 jcamins How many places do you think we use get_saved_report? 17:59 sekjal sorry, kylemhall... probably a simple rebase, but I know how annoying those can be to have to do repeatedly 17:59 sekjal well that was anti-climactic... doesn't apply 17:55 cait :) 17:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , attach PDF files to a patron record 17:50 sekjal going to grab a cookie from downstairs, then will start QAing bug 8130 17:46 * jcamins finds two bugs. 17:46 jcamins Bah, humbug. 17:46 Oak kia ora #koha 17:45 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 35.0°C (10:00 PM PKT on June 15, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 17:45 Oak @wunder islamabad 17:42 sekjal QAQ = 13, and everything left is classed as "ENH" 17:37 * cait cheers sekjal on 17:34 sekjal QAQ = 15 17:25 cait too late 17:25 jcamins cait: if you run water over the onions first, it will help a bit. 17:24 * cait starts crying 17:24 sekjal under 20 17:23 jcamins And a bunch of these (based on the subjects) look like they should be pretty small, and therefore easy to QA. :) 17:21 jcamins sekjal: you're getting there! 17:21 cait but first cutting onions 17:21 cait k 17:19 jcamins All should be pretty easy to test. 17:19 jcamins cait: bug 8206, followed by 8202, followed by 8203. 17:18 cait ok, give me the sequence again :) 17:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8203 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Should be possible to save individual authorities 17:18 jcamins cait: yep. Many nice things. Also, bug 8203. 17:18 cait I will prepare my dinner, then I am back to teesting 17:18 cait testing something nice? ;) 17:16 jcamins cait: yes, but I thought she might need a break before her head exploded. 17:15 cait wizzyrea: are there patches for the big problems yet? 17:14 cait I think wizzyrea is probably busy in circulation righ tnow :( 17:14 jcamins wizzyrea: that one may be relevant to your interest, as well. 17:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8202 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add authorities to export tool 17:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC 17:14 jcamins cait: and when you are done with bug 8206, bug 8202 would welcome your attention. 17:12 cait sekjal++ 17:12 cait back 17:12 cait :) 17:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC 17:07 jcamins Bug 8206 is ready for cait's sign off. 17:04 sekjal QAQ at 27 17:01 oleonard Have a nice weekend 17:01 * oleonard is off 16:55 cait bbiab 16:55 cait supermarket 16:54 dpavlin oleonard++ we have our own staff-global.css which is culprint. 16:52 oleonard dpavlin: Yes, but those calls should be overridden by staff-global.css. My datepicker follow-up consolidates all that a bit. 16:51 dpavlin oleonard: make sense. But I have references to them in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/jquery-ui.css 16:50 jcamins cait: the default authorities index was phrase only. 16:50 cait I am confused now, but you are probably right 16:49 cait I thouht that was what contains and the others were for? 16:49 cait hm 16:49 jcamins cait: because I would like to be able to automatically truncate. 16:49 jcamins cait: that's why I added the options. 16:49 oleonard dpavlin: That's why I suggested clearing your cache. Your staff client CSS shouldn't call those images if it is up to date 16:48 oleonard dpavlin: It's not that you're missing those files, it's that some CSS is calling images which it shouldn't 16:48 cait jcamins: but i like being able to do truncate searches? 16:48 cait jcamins: hmmm 16:48 * cait waves at dpavlin :) 16:48 jcamins cait: nope. Just a bug. 16:47 cait I assumed auto truncation 16:47 cait jcamins: i always search for a, b or something else to produce big result lists 16:47 cait jcamins: interesting 16:47 dpavlin oleonard: nop. I don't have them in git checkout. Where are they surposed to come from? 16:47 jcamins cait: it turns out that your authority search for "ab" was only working because we're producing invalid authorities queries on the OPAC. 16:47 oleonard dpavlin: Clear your browser cache? 16:46 cait eythian: nice evening :) 16:46 jcamins There's the one I wanted. 16:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC 16:46 jcamins bug 8206 16:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8205 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Should be possible to hide unused authorities in OPAC 16:46 jcamins Bug 8205 16:46 dpavlin I don't have files on filesystem. 16:45 dpavlin every intranet page 16:45 wahanui it has been said that page is too big? 16:45 oleonard dpavlin: What page? 16:45 dpavlin I'm missing ui-bg_flat_75_ffffff_40x100.png and friend in master what did I do wrong? 16:44 jcamins Ohh. 16:44 * eythian is outta here, bye! 16:44 jcamins Huh. 16:43 cait I think maybe my "abs" 16:43 cait all I did was a search in opac authorities browser 16:43 cait search 16:40 jcamins cait: how did you get those warnings? 16:40 * cait waves 16:35 wizzyrea or something. 16:35 wizzyrea yea, the cool kids have moved on to making their own kombucha 16:33 eythian jcamins: heh, it's about 50/50 ;) 16:33 jcamins dpavlin: I can't drink soda, either. 16:33 dpavlin s/bood/blood/ 16:32 dpavlin jcamins: bubbles help with alchocol transfer to bood, which is the point of beer, I guess... 16:32 jcamins eythian: would that be why they're your friends? ;) 16:32 eythian the US is so far behind ;) 16:32 * wizzyrea recalls that eythian is a beer geek beyond any other I know 16:32 eythian We've passed it by already 16:32 sekjal homebrewing is definitely "in" these days 16:32 eythian that's nothing, a number of my friends brew commercially :) 16:32 oleonard Showoff :P 16:31 jcamins (why yes, most of my friends *do* brew their own beer) 16:30 jcamins A friend of mine brews the occasional beer without any secondary fermentation so that I can drink it. 16:30 eythian jcamins: cask ales aren't very carbonated at all 16:30 jcamins dpavlin: I've been to Scotland. The reason I don't drink beer is the bubbles. 16:30 dpavlin I know :-) 16:29 * oleonard has been in the mood for a good ale lately 16:29 eythian dpavlin: if all you've had previously is crappy lagers, you've been missing out. 16:28 dpavlin jcamins: I didn't drink beer before Scotland either, but ale got me over to the dark side :-) 16:20 eythian I know! 16:20 jcamins !!! Even worse! 16:19 eythian 1 hour 18 minutes 16:19 jcamins wizzyrea: you can't have a subfield with no value. 16:19 jcamins eythian: ergo, you are eighteen minutes late to beer o'clock! 16:19 eythian jcamins: it is. About half the staff here are from NZ 16:18 jcamins wizzyrea: yes you are. 16:18 jcamins eythian: introduce them to the concept! Isn't Catalyst an NZ company? 16:18 wizzyrea hmm, I'm disagreeing with jcamins - you're not actually deleting the subfield right? 16:18 eythian jcamins: it is in Wellington, apparently not so much in the UK however, alas 16:18 wizzyrea delete the value 16:18 wahanui somebody said the first was the command i ran 16:18 jcamins The first. 16:17 * jcamins is not a beer drinker, but understands that Fridays mean beer o'clock at Catalyst. 16:17 oleonard So anyway, on the batch mod screen is it more technically correct to say "check to delete subfield 3" or "check to delete the value of subfield 3?" 16:17 eythian there is a sad lack of untappd activity in the region however 16:16 wizzyrea well it's the same in mine 16:15 eythian and The Evening Star, where it's served, is nearby. 16:15 eythian jcamins: the Darkstar brewery is in these parts somewhere 16:15 oleonard wizzyrea: My subfield 1 was hidden for some reason. 16:15 jcamins eythian: ah. I'm sure they have decent beer in Brighton. 16:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8229 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Tabs in marc subfield structure is not shown correctly 16:13 eythian what wahanui said 16:13 * oleonard wishes Bug 8229 would get pushed so he could properly check his framework 16:13 wahanui i guess Brighton is where the catalyst UK offices are 16:13 eythian jcamins: Brighton 16:13 jcamins eythian: so where are you? 16:13 eythian or logic 16:13 eythian stop bringing loginc into this! 16:13 jcamins s/he just found them all when you sent him/her to collections. 16:13 jcamins eythian: the problem patron that took out fifty books and didn't return them for a year? 16:13 oleonard eythian: Because don't tell me what to do! 16:12 eythian suspicious 16:12 eythian Oh, you just "happened" to find them behind the couch eh? 16:12 jcamins eythian: you mark them not lost. 16:11 wizzyrea actually that's a really good point ^.^ 16:11 wizzyrea and it's in 3.6 16:11 wizzyrea it's subfield 1 16:11 eythian who scans a bunch of items just to mark them lost anyway? They're clearly in your pile ;) 16:10 wizzyrea 3.6 16:10 wizzyrea in master… let me check 3.8 16:10 wizzyrea oleonard: I don't see it either 16:10 eythian OK cool 16:10 jcamins That's not going into 3.6.6 anyway. 16:10 eythian given it's after 5 already 16:10 eythian probably not today actually 16:10 jcamins Thanks. 16:10 jcamins Ah. 16:10 jcamins You said you were working on it, but I have no recollection what "it" is. 16:10 eythian <jcamins> Could you please upload a package for libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl to the oldstable dist on debian.koha-community.org? 16:10 jcamins eythian: what is it that I had asked you to do? 16:09 eythian that sounds plausible 16:09 oleonard Wait, is my framework messed up? 16:08 * wizzyrea looks 16:08 oleonard I don't see it in the list of subfields 16:07 wizzyrea srsly? that used to work. 16:07 wizzyrea wha? 16:06 oleonard Item batch mod can't set lost status? 16:00 slef we lugged too much kit between edinburgh and Norfolk to use the train 15:59 wizzyrea ooo 15:59 slef mostly car, sadly 15:59 wizzyrea mostly train though eh 15:59 wizzyrea good heavens. 15:59 slef foot, car, bike, train, bike, car 15:58 wizzyrea or... 15:58 wizzyrea 1000 miles… on bike? 15:55 slef and listening to the French getting beat just now 15:55 slef so looking forward to the England football match tonight 15:55 slef and I've done over 1000 miles since 4pm Monday 15:54 slef it was fun... but very tiring 15:54 wizzyrea modest as always 15:54 wizzyrea pft 15:53 slef wizzyrea: it only looks that way because several other volunteers had to do tasks away from the hall... like getting HMRC to release the book bags 15:53 * wizzyrea waves to slef the kohacon conquering hero! 15:52 eythian hello slef 15:52 drojf hey slef 15:51 slef hi all 15:47 jcamins eythian: authority linking works beautifully on 3.6.x. 15:47 eythian I used that patch on a slightly older 3.6, it worked magically 15:46 SJeffery I have no clue what mad schemes you could be referring to *whistles innocently* 15:46 jcamins The patch got into 3.6.x a month ago. 15:46 jcamins Under six months ago fixed it. 15:46 tcohen authority linking? finedays? 15:46 jcamins *Just* fixed it. 15:46 jcamins I just fixed it! 15:46 sekjal ::sigh:: 15:45 * jcamins bangs his head on the desk. 15:45 wizzyrea don't use 3.8 15:45 jcamins Except that authority linking may be broken in 3.8.1. 15:45 wizzyrea that libraries like to do 15:45 wizzyrea mad schemes 15:45 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 15:45 wizzyrea @quote get 123 15:45 wizzyrea with all of the 15:45 wizzyrea if you want to circ 15:45 jcamins SJeffery: it's little problems that add up to a big nuisance... lots of issues with fines, some with holds, the UI isn't quite finished, etc. 15:45 wizzyrea basically, if you only want to catalog stuff, you're pretty good 15:45 wizzyrea ;) 15:45 wizzyrea yea, that would explain it. 15:45 tcohen ( deltadays - grace )->is_positive = 1 15:45 SJeffery That could be why I do not see anything! 15:45 wizzyrea due dates set at 00:00 instead of 23:59 15:45 SJeffery ah, ok. We do not use holds, serials module, acquisitions module, fines, or checkout periods:) 15:45 tcohen _FixFineDaysOnReturn->grace: 0 15:44 tcohen _FixFineDaysOnReturn->deltadays: 0 15:44 wizzyrea dropbox mode not working 15:44 wizzyrea calendar days not working 15:44 oleonard If you're using hold limits wait until we get that fixed (unless it's already broken in your installation) 15:44 wizzyrea no hold limits 15:44 wizzyrea double fines 15:44 wizzyrea bad bugs 15:44 wizzyrea so many bugs. 15:44 wizzyrea SJeffery: oh my 15:44 sekjal we're getting the absolute value of days between due and today, rather than a positive or negative duration 15:43 tcohen if you're using finedays, wait until we get that fixed 15:43 sekjal tcohen: so it looks like the problem is in Koha::Calendar 15:43 tcohen and i'm glad to hear that! 15:43 tcohen yes, i've read bout it 15:43 SJeffery jcamins: I am looking at the 3.8 bugs list and nothing is jumping out as being a major issue...? 15:43 * jcamins is very excited. :) 15:43 jcamins dpavlin is going to be redoing the caching code. 15:42 jcamins Welcome back. 15:42 tcohen (from koha stuff) 15:42 jcamins tcohen: fair enough. 15:42 tcohen been out for a while 15:42 tcohen jcamins, i've tons of koha-devel emails to read 15:41 jcamins tcohen: you can, of course, go to 3.8 if you'd like, I just hear more about problems with that decision than I do about benefits. ;) 15:40 tcohen haven't found a pros and cons list 15:40 jcamins Not to be pessimistic, but .1 is early. 15:40 tcohen jcamins, no 15:39 jcamins tcohen: I mean, seriously, you've considered this at length and written out pros and cons? 15:39 tcohen now we are not 15:39 jcamins tcohen: are you sure you want to do that? 15:39 jcamins tcohen: you are? 15:38 tcohen as we are going into production with 3.8 15:38 tcohen i was asked by bgk to check that 15:38 sekjal so we need to change our comparison 15:38 tcohen indeed 15:38 sekjal tcohen: that's what the thread on koha-devel was leading me to believe, yes 15:37 tcohen (using finedays of course) 15:37 tcohen ence we are debarring patrons when check-in occurs the same day the check-out happened 15:37 SJeffery lol, I never realized that sekjal=ian 15:36 tcohen ( deltadays - grace )->is_positive is true for 0 and 0 15:36 sekjal tcohen: sure 15:36 tcohen _FixFineDaysOnReturn 15:35 tcohen do u have a minute to talk about 15:35 sekjal one of a couple in the Koha community, though 15:35 sekjal my name is Ian, yes 15:35 wizzyrea ;) 15:35 wahanui irc regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 15:35 wizzyrea irc regulars? 15:35 tcohen sekjal is ian? :-D 15:34 wizzyrea later :) 15:34 cait1 bbl from home :) 15:34 cait1 oook, now I am really leaving 15:34 wizzyrea seems so 15:34 jcamins sekjal was a moment ago. 15:34 huginn wizzyrea: sekjal was last seen in #koha 26 minutes and 52 seconds ago: <sekjal> jcamins: bug 7943 processed 15:34 wizzyrea @seen sekjal 15:34 tcohen is ian here? 15:34 tcohen hi #koha 15:34 wizzyrea but cait is right, hold limits are broooken right now 15:33 eythian yeah, that's my distiction too 15:33 SJeffery ^^ 15:33 cait1 ^^ 15:32 wizzyrea I always think of itemtypes as "types of things that circulate," Locations as "physical places those itemtypes live," and collection codes as "groups of like things" 15:32 eythian so probably just like it was on the shelf 15:32 cait1 atm all those features are quite broken probably 15:32 eythian it's a small community library 15:32 cait1 but the problem is 15:32 cait1 and you could limit (if maxreserves was working) how many stack holds a person can do 15:31 eythian I dunno 15:31 cait1 or do they prefer people ask for it and not have people place holds on those? than you could do that with the circ rules 15:31 cait1 so they know they have to get ti? 15:31 cait1 I think they want to put holds on them? 15:31 eythian cait1: why managing holds? 15:30 eythian I guess I need more details from them 15:30 cait1 eythian: itemtype can be correct too - for managing hold sfor those items 15:30 eythian yeah 15:30 jcamins eythian: separate itemtype makes sense if they circulate differently. 15:30 cait1 I mean no method with big advantage over another afaikt 15:30 cait1 but as long as this is global... not much difference in how you do it I think 15:29 eythian which I didn't think was correct 15:29 cait1 eythian: to have the allowonshelfholds in circ matrix would help quite a bit 15:29 eythian The library asked for a separate item type 15:29 jcamins ccode would also work, if there's a logical collection division. 15:29 cait1 eythian: we use a location 15:29 eythian That's what I was thinking would be most appropriate 15:29 jcamins I use location. 15:29 eythian jcamins: you have books in the stack (i.e. in the back room, not the general collection) and people can get them out by asking a librarian to go fetch them 15:28 jcamins eythian: what do you mean? 15:28 eythian How do people typically do items in stack? Have a location, ccode, or item type, or have the stack as a branch? 15:27 druthb kk 15:27 cait1 bbl 15:27 cait1 running out of battery 15:27 cait1 ok 15:24 wahanui somebody said schema was tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org 15:24 jcamins schema? 15:24 mib_m1g889 Is there any relationship maitained (PK - FK) for the table action_logs and borrowers Table 15:24 jcamins eythian: wow, that's really weird. 15:23 cait1 eythian: I still have to get used to you at this time of the day :) 15:22 eythian mib_m1g889: you're going to have to ask a question before anyone can help 15:22 wizzyrea just ask :) 15:21 mib_m1g889 anyone can help plz 15:21 mib_m1g889 query about sql under Koha 15:21 druthb hi, cait1 :) 15:21 oleonard On the batch mod screen is it more technically correct to say "check to delete subfield 3" or "check to delete the value of subfield 3?" 15:21 mib_m1g889 helllo guys 15:21 cait1 hi druthb 15:21 druthb hi, oleonard! 15:20 oleonard Hi druthb 15:19 druthb o/ 15:16 jcamins cait++ 15:16 jcamins Yay! 15:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7943 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Untranslatable strings in OPAC's authority search 15:15 jcamins But before my RecordProcessor code can be submitted, bug 7943 needs to be pushed. 15:12 jcamins Actually, the problem will be fixed to a large extent by my proposed RecordProcessor, though that's more a side effect than anything else. 15:12 cait1 oh, don't do the sad smiley on me! 15:11 jcamins :( 15:11 jcamins Paging should be done consistently, but until we move all the search code to one place (Koha::SearchEngine), we can't do that. 15:11 cait1 but it really looks not nice with my badly linked data 15:11 cait1 I could sign off on it with a note 15:11 cait1 it's an optoin 15:11 cait1 hm 15:10 jcamins We sure do! 15:10 cait1 we do paging wrong then. 15:10 jcamins With solr we may be able to work around it, but Zebra doesn't really give us any option. :( 15:10 cait1 meh. 15:10 cait1 my result pages 7 and 8 are empty, 6 shows one record... and so on 15:10 jcamins cait1: it's the same reason the opachiddenitems syspref is so unpleasant to use. 15:09 jcamins cait1: unfortunately, yes. 15:09 cait1 jcamins: is that a proper solution to the problem? ;) 15:09 cait1 I missed the paging the first time, because I assumed only 1 rsult was right 15:09 jcamins cait1: I wouldn't recommend you turn the syspref on. :P 15:09 cait1 but... it's very confusing 15:09 cait1 I know it's probably hard to fix that 15:09 cait1 it's confusing 15:08 cait1 Showing 2 of about 155 results 15:08 jcamins (it says "about X records") 15:08 jcamins cait1: right. That's why it changes the count. 15:08 cait1 without redoing the paging? 15:08 jcamins sekjal++ 15:08 cait1 I suppose you just hide the records unused? 15:08 jcamins Yay! 15:08 jcamins Because the default search is absurd. 15:08 cait1 and others have only very few results 15:08 cait1 but some pages are empty 15:07 cait1 if I page, the records are there 15:07 cait1 well, it's a paging problem I think 15:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7943 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Untranslatable strings in OPAC's authority search 15:07 sekjal jcamins: bug 7943 processed 15:07 cait1 why not? 15:07 jcamins "ab" shouldn't ever bring up "absurdes" in the default search. 15:07 jcamins cait1: I mean, when you don't have the syspref turned on, ab shows them both? 15:07 cait1 and lots of paging on top 15:07 cait1 I get a reswult list with 1 result 15:06 cait1 I only have very few linked records in this catalog 15:06 cait1 abel-struth 15:06 cait1 with ab only the person shows up 15:06 cait1 maybe something with the maximum retrieved? paging? 15:06 jcamins But it shows up when you search for ab? 15:06 cait1 I only don't get them both on one result list 15:05 cait1 when I search for absurd it shows up 15:05 reiveune bye$ 15:05 cait1 it is 15:05 jcamins Is absurdes theater used? 15:05 cait1 when I search for absurd it shows correctly my other 15:05 cait1 I have in use a person with ab and a subject absurdes theater, when I turn the hiding on and search for ab, only the person is found 15:05 jcamins What's that? 15:05 jcamins I've been troubleshooting an error that I think might be caused by that. 15:04 cait1 but before I have to tell you something unpleasant about the unused authorities 15:04 cait1 I can retest 15:04 cait1 Ithink so 15:04 cait1 yes 15:04 cait1 hm 15:04 jcamins You get that error on master? 15:04 jcamins Wait... 15:03 wizzyrea http://thenounproject.com/noun/bomb/#icon-No338 15:03 * wizzyrea considers this for hold queue 15:02 cait1 seems I get one line for each search result 15:02 cait1 but if you would still take a look it would clean up the logs quite a bit 15:02 cait1 hm seems on current master too 15:02 * wizzyrea sighs 15:02 jcamins I will look to see what that is. 15:02 wizzyrea well here's "add patron" http://thenounproject.com/noun/medical-library/#icon-No682 15:02 jcamins Yikes. 15:01 cait1 lots 15:01 cait1 seems to happen with each authority search 15:01 cait1 [Fri Jun 15 16:57:49 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Fri Jun 15 16:57:49 2012] opac-authorities-home.pl: Use of uninitialized value $i in string eq at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm line 255., referer: http://localhost/cgi-bin/koha/opac-authorities-home.pl 15:00 jcamins If you tell me what they are, I will. 15:00 cait1 but I still want to ask you to fix it :) 15:00 cait1 probably warnings 15:00 jcamins That's not good. 15:00 jcamins Uh-oh. 15:00 jcamins cait1: you do? 14:59 cait1 or warnings 14:59 cait1 I have lots of erros in my logs... 14:59 * wizzyrea will piddle about some more 14:59 cait1 jcamins: hmmmmmm 14:58 wizzyrea but yes, I like the idea of icons for some things, and lists of reports for others 14:58 cait1 clrh: :) 14:58 wizzyrea you aren't typical :P 14:58 jcamins :P 14:58 jcamins wizzyrea: for me, "circ" would fall under that heading. 14:58 clrh cait1: have to catch his train :) 14:57 wizzyrea well *there* it might make sense, but i'm not sure there is anything that is "not commonly used" on circ-home 14:57 cait1 now you scared gaetan_B away :) 14:57 jcamins wizzyrea: so adding a roll-down tray would reduce clicks for those of us who use those links regularly. 14:56 jcamins wizzyrea: we don't have an authority search/new authority link at all from the main page anymore. 14:56 cait1 for checkout and checkin I use other paths 14:56 cait1 the only time I go to that page is when I want to run a report from it 14:56 cait1 I think it#s hard to tell what's not commonly used here 14:56 wizzyrea people don't find them 14:56 wizzyrea but I don't like hiding things, sorry jcamins. 14:55 wizzyrea I like these ideas 14:55 * jcamins would like rolldown trays for things that are less commonly used. 14:55 cait1 hierarchies 14:55 cait1 but it's also nice to have some groups - holds reports for example 14:54 cait1 the new buttons ar enice 14:54 cait1 I tihnk another problem is grouping 14:54 oleonard What about a set of icons for the top 4 functions, say check out check in transfer and fast cataloging, then a box under all that with report links? 14:54 cait1 ;) 14:54 cait1 is that the right time to say - I dislike icons? 14:53 oleonard ^ and that's why icons are problematic 14:53 cait1 well... i don't need icons 14:53 cait1 oh yes 14:53 * oleonard wishes wizzyrea good luck finding icons that differentiate all those holds reports 14:52 cait1 neither did I :) 14:52 * oleonard honestly didn't notice it was on that page 14:52 wizzyrea Ooo good point 14:51 oleonard I wonder if we even need "set library" there since it's in the header at all times 14:50 wizzyrea oleonard: no icons yet, but what do you think of this: http://screencast.com/t/nzQQICIVg3p 14:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8205 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Should be possible to hide unused authorities in OPAC 14:48 cait1 bug 8205 14:48 cait1 ok, working on 8205 now 14:48 cait1 sekjal++ 14:48 jcamins sekjal++ 14:48 sekjal we'll see how well I do 14:47 sekjal my goal is to get the QAQ under 10 14:47 sekjal jcamins: will look at that one next 14:47 sekjal hi, cait1 14:46 cait1 but he is right - it's cool, because it fixes translatability and rewrites some really evil code 14:46 cait1 hi sekjal :) 14:46 jcamins ;D 14:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7943 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Untranslatable strings in OPAC's authority search 14:45 cait1 ohoh, jcamins has switched into qa nagging mode ;) 14:45 jcamins Bug 7943 is very cool! 14:45 sekjal jcamins: I do; today is the Scholarly Retreat at the library 14:45 jcamins Wanna QA something cool? 14:45 jcamins Hi, sekjal! 14:44 sekjal hi, #koha! 14:42 cait1 moving back to 6720 14:42 cait1 added a note on 8206 14:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Saved authorities always show as 'Default' 14:41 jcamins *on bug 6720 14:41 jcamins Additional patch 6720. 14:40 cait1 jcamins: moving on for now :) 14:40 cait1 and it seems not broken on their side 14:39 cait1 might be more, but that was the one I got the report for 14:39 cait1 I have one target that stubbornly refuses to work, while it does using yaz :( 14:39 cait1 me 14:39 nengard has anyone notices that isbn and issn searches on z targets aren't finding results?? 14:39 cait1 :) 14:39 jcamins Yep. After I finish my follow-up to 6720. 14:38 cait1 slow internet 14:38 cait1 can you chck? researching is a bit painful for me righ tnow 14:38 jcamins I'll have to split them up a bit. 14:38 jcamins Oh, that may be dependent on the overlay patch, then. 14:38 cait1 I am doing it now, but your patch does no change to the indexes? 14:37 jcamins Sorry! 14:37 jcamins Oops. 14:37 cait1 your test plan didn't say so 14:37 jcamins Did you reindex? 14:36 jcamins Yes. 14:36 cait1 so shouldn't I find that one when searching for anton with the last search option for see from? 14:36 cait1 and I get lots of results, one of those is  used for/see from: Bucher, Anton 14:36 cait1 and I do a search for "anton" 14:35 cait1 I am testng the authority search options 14:35 cait1 hm jcamins? - perhaps bad news 14:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC 14:29 cait1 bug 8206 14:29 cait1 the next one is harder 14:29 cait1 oh 14:28 cait1 ok, easy to test, signed off and moving on 14:24 jcamins Glad to be of service. 14:21 cait1 as i filed it in august 2011 14:21 cait1 with an additional thank you to jared for fixing that :) 14:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Saved authorities always show as 'Default' 14:20 cait1 bug 6720 14:20 cait1 moving on to next 14:20 cait1 first one done :) 14:20 cait1 ok 14:20 jcamins Wow. 14:19 wizzyrea as they use the same account in every library 14:19 Waylon i mean, some of these books were priceless, being a spiritual centre. 14:19 wizzyrea the consortium has made it a lot easier to spot these patrons 14:19 wizzyrea that go from library to library stealing DVD's 14:19 wizzyrea yea, we have patrons in our area 14:18 wizzyrea oh wow 14:18 jcamins cait++ 14:18 Waylon Although, i volunteered at a library (the one i started with koha for), and one of our most frequent borrowers, and lecturers.. was not only stealing the books, but selling them to used book stores. 14:17 wizzyrea yea, you'll find corruption anywhere 14:17 nengard sad ? but true 14:17 wizzyrea something like 15k in credit card purchases on the library card for "books" that went into the director's house 14:17 nengard that's a story i've heard many other times 14:17 * wizzyrea is not, I was referring to the Tonganoxie library several directors ago 14:16 jcamins Yes. 14:16 jcamins Hehe. 14:16 cait1 referring to the library in italy? 14:16 Waylon damn 14:16 cait1 ah 14:16 wizzyrea hey, I had a library where that happened 14:16 jcamins wizzyrea: the discovery that the recently-hired director was a felon who is stealing all the library's books? 14:16 cait1 calming cookies 14:16 Waylon wizzyrea++ 14:16 * cait1 sends wizzyrea some cookies 14:16 wizzyrea yes, agreed on that point 14:16 wizzyrea awesome, thanks 14:16 Waylon fines-- 14:15 wizzyrea NOTHING. 14:15 wizzyrea nothing discredits a library faster than incorrect fines. 14:15 wizzyrea as it has to do with fines. 14:15 wizzyrea no doubt that it's better to have more eyes on it 14:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8253 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fine doubling 14:15 wizzyrea well, whatever it is 14:15 nengard Bug 8253 14:14 nengard Koha 14:14 nengard the problem was that we didn't see it consistently ? so we weren't sure if it was us or KOha 14:14 nengard filing 14:14 wizzyrea koha community minds > one mind 14:13 wizzyrea it 14:13 wizzyrea file ti 14:13 wizzyrea doesn't matter 14:13 nengard kyleh is researching 14:13 nengard um ?. no because we haven't tracked down what's causing it yet 14:13 wizzyrea here again, money = blocker. 14:13 nengard i agree wizzyrea 14:13 wizzyrea nengard did you file a bug for the double fines thing too? 14:12 wizzyrea you just don't screw around. 14:12 jcamins Good. 14:12 wizzyrea seriously, when patrons money is involved 14:12 wizzyrea not that I know of 14:12 wizzyrea no 14:12 wizzyrea well I'm going to keep changing it to blocker 14:12 jcamins Is the problem in 3.6.x? 14:11 nengard but when i put blocker on it's always removed so I didn't do that 14:11 nengard I agree 14:11 wizzyrea yea they are both blockers imo' 14:11 nengard :( 14:11 nengard related to the calendar 14:11 cait1 :) 14:11 cait1 hi wizzyrea 14:11 nengard there are two bug reports 14:11 cait1 hi nengard 14:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8243 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , calendar being ignored 14:11 nengard bug 8243 14:11 nengard but 8243 14:11 cait1 takes minutes for git bz apply 14:11 cait1 slow internet 14:11 cait1 hm 14:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8110 normal, P5 - low, ---, savitra.sirohi, In Discussion , Fines accruing on closed days 14:10 wizzyrea bug 8110 14:10 wizzyrea is there a proper bug for that 14:10 wizzyrea looks like the holidays bug has escaped 14:08 jcamins :) 14:08 cait1 almost glad I found something -makes me feel like a serious tester ;) 14:07 cait1 thx :) 14:07 cait1 k 14:07 jcamins Attached. 14:07 cait1 opac-auth_MARCdetail 14:07 cait1 so the link will not work 14:06 cait1 you renamed the file 14:06 cait1 ah 14:05 jcamins I'm just about to upload it. 14:05 cait1 wait or better move on to something else? 14:05 cait1 what about my fixed patch? 14:05 cait1 heh 14:05 jcamins This database update is going to take ages. 14:05 jcamins Oh, bother. 14:03 * jcamins bounces enthusiastically on his exercise ball. 14:03 jcamins Sugar! 14:03 jcamins Yay! 14:03 cait1 hm probably too much sugar 14:01 cait1 I will get another juice 14:01 cait1 whatever you prefer :) 14:00 jcamins Sure, a follow-up would be easy. 14:00 cait1 oh well, guess I can copy my notes 13:59 cait1 and can you do a follow up? 13:59 cait1 you are faster than me 13:59 jcamins 7943. 13:59 jcamins Remind me which bug we're on? 13:59 jcamins (that's from a follow-up) 13:59 jcamins I will upload a new patch with the correction. 13:58 cait1 when I click on "view full heading" 13:58 jcamins Lemme check why that is. 13:58 jcamins Hmm. 13:57 cait1 Template process failed: file error - /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-authoritiesdetail.tt: not found at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 127. 13:57 wahanui i guess bad news is that you're probably royally screwed 13:57 cait1 jcamins: bad news 13:56 cait1 In wonder if details wouldn't be easier to understand for people? 13:56 cait1 in opac we say: View full heading 13:56 cait1 in staff we say details 13:56 cait1 hm 13:54 jcamins Hehe. 13:54 cait1 maybe your customer sees it... 13:54 jcamins I think noting what the search is would be nice, though. 13:54 cait1 I can still note it :) 13:54 * jcamins isn't rewriting the authorities module in the staff client, sorry. 13:54 cait1 yep 13:53 jcamins You mean in the staff client? 13:53 cait1 and wouldn't it be nice to see the authtype in the reulst list? 13:52 cait1 did you realize the pagination on top and on bottom of authority search looks differently? 13:52 cait1 well 13:52 jcamins Datatables? 13:52 * cait1 hides 13:52 * cait1 is thinking about datatables 13:50 jcamins Good point. 13:50 jcamins cait1: you are right. 13:50 cait1 hm maybe I am wrong, but the search term shows up nowhwere 13:49 jcamins You are signing off on patch one of 20ish. 13:49 cait1 I think it should remembermy search term 13:49 cait1 even better :) 13:48 jcamins cait1: actually, chances are good that some of the suggestions are already underway. 13:48 jcamins cait1: please do. 13:48 cait1 hope you don't mind... I am adding some enhancement ideas to the bug report 13:48 * jcamins waves back. 13:48 jcamins My improved options in the OPAC are much more useful. 13:48 jcamins I don't like the options for searching in the authority module. 13:47 jcamins cait1: agreed. 13:47 jcamins Oh, there it is. 13:47 * wizzyrea waves 13:47 cait1 jcamins: but ... it still feels kinda wrong to me 13:47 cait1 jcamins: when I select the tab an explanation is on top 13:46 cait1 whee? ;) 13:46 oleonard Wheee! 13:46 * cait1 is playing with authority search 13:46 cait1 ah, wrong window, but doesn' tmatter :) 13:46 cait1 it's labelled irritatingly 13:45 cait1 but 13:45 cait1 it's the only $a 13:45 cait1 I think I have figure it out 13:45 cait1 hm 13:45 jcamins lol 13:45 cait1 keep getting up and walking around annoying my coworkers... ;) 13:45 cait1 when I keep up walking around at work it normally means I have to write slides for a presentation 13:44 cait1 ah 13:44 oleonard No time to stay and work. I've got a lot of coming and going to do! 13:42 cait1 perhaps time to hand out some duct tape again? 13:41 jcamins Wow. That's a lot of people joining and quitting. 12:25 jcamins Hehe. 12:24 eythian http://www.froot.nl/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/woordgrap11.jpg 12:06 wajasu :) 11:59 cait :) 11:57 * oleonard is happy to be back at his own computer today 11:56 cait hi oleonard :) 11:55 oleonard Hi #koha 10:50 jcamins fredericd++ 10:50 cait oki 10:50 jcamins I attached the wrong patch. 10:50 jcamins Don't sign off on that one yet. 10:49 cait I only wanted to ask about the overlay patch 10:49 cait oh 10:49 jcamins cait: unfortunately yes. 10:43 eythian I suppose, there are a lot of them 10:42 drojf dependencies i guess. 197 packages 10:42 eythian why does it need so much disk? 10:41 drojf eythian: i got it tweaked to use i386 packages. i need 600mb diskspace though, only have ~400mb free on the small sd card so i can't try it now 10:22 eythian drojf: it should, I don't think there are any XS modules in there (though there will be eventually for the solr stuff) 10:21 drojf eythian: so it would work if i could get apt to just use the i386 part of the repository? (if that is possible somehow) 10:18 cait jcamins_away: awake? 10:16 eythian debian/control has "Architecture: all" so it's probably a matter of changing a default somewhere in the build system 10:16 drojf that would be great! 10:16 eythian I'll have to figure out how it determines which arch to create 10:15 eythian drojf: that should be possible - at the moment it does amd64 and i386,l however they're not really binary packages so would work anyway. 10:14 drojf eythian: there are actually arm packages for idzebra-2.0 and mysql-server in the debian repository. just need koha packages at main/binary-armel/Packages for raspberry koha ;) 10:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8205 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Should be possible to hide unused authorities in OPAC 10:13 cait bug 8205 10:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC 10:11 cait bug 8206 10:11 cait 8206 10:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Saved authorities always show as 'Default' 10:10 cait bug 6720 10:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7943 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Untranslatable strings in OPAC's authority search 10:09 wahanui bug 7943 is perfect, thanks. 10:09 cait bug 7943 09:49 vfernandes can I put an image in the template? 09:49 vfernandes one little question: the koha notices templates supports HTML? 09:47 vfernandes hi guys 09:33 mle heheheh 09:29 drojf looking forward to try their other ales. i may continue doing that in the bathtub, worked quite well the first time 09:27 drojf you can actually order it online in germany, they seem to have a problem with the german recycling system though, one shop had to take it out again before that is settled 09:27 mle droif: i am glad you like it, i think it is an unusual flavour. they are a really cool brewery too, an early entry in the craft market 09:26 mle droif: it will protect you from midges if you have enough of it 09:24 drojf mle: the heather ale is pretty nice! 09:24 cait but you looked great :) 09:24 cait aw 09:24 drojf hi mle 09:24 mle nothing really, just the normal photographic shyness i guess 09:23 cait what about? 09:23 * mle is worried 09:22 cait oooh don't look like that 09:22 mle : / 09:21 * cait got a great photo of mle in a kilt :D 09:21 eythian hiya mle 09:21 * mle_afk waves to eythian 09:20 cait :) 09:20 eythian jcamins_away: I'll hopefully get on to that today 09:20 eythian just getting stuff set up 09:20 eythian yep 09:20 cait in brighton now? 09:20 eythian hi 09:20 cait hey eythian 09:20 cait ooh 09:19 mle_afk cait: nein 09:15 cait can you hear the voices too? ;) 09:14 cait yeah it is! 09:14 cait :) 09:13 mle names even! 09:13 mle its wonderful to be able to put faces to anmes. : ) 09:13 mle hey cait ;) 08:58 cait hi mle :) 08:49 mle : ) 08:11 whois thank you: drojf, wajasu, and all 08:04 Waylon how would i use siege with koha, with a login required server? 08:03 Waylon hiya all! 07:46 connor_l_dewar I need to work out how to do in python but that article outlines the methods 07:46 cait perhaps you can find something in the wiki 07:46 cait i am not sure about the software 07:42 connor_l_dewar i found this great article http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/12454/Developing-AI-chatbots and then mum told me about this so i thought id check it out. 07:41 whois _ Now I fai reconfigure zebra by any commands line? 07:41 whois _ I installed under: Option B: Download Koha from http://download.koha-community.org 07:41 whois I installed koha 3.8.1 follow the instructions at: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; a = blob; f = INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid; hb = HEAD 07:41 wahanui third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/find-version-koha-running/ 07:41 cait third question? 07:41 wahanui second question is, like, "What is the exact error message?" 07:41 cait second question? 07:41 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" 07:41 cait first question? 07:40 connor_l_dewar how old is wahanui 07:40 wahanui i guess i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow. 07:40 connor_l_dewar what is wahanui 07:39 connor_l_dewar haha this is highly entertaining if i couldwork it 07:38 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 07:38 cait germs? 07:38 cait connor_l_dewar: you woudl have to find the right words :) 07:38 huginn connor_l_dewar: I've exhausted my database of quotes 07:38 connor_l_dewar @wahanui jokes? 07:38 connor_l_dewar can you tell me a joke wahanui 07:37 connor_l_dewar can you tell me a joke 07:37 wahanui rumour has it i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow 07:37 connor_l_dewar who is wahanui 07:30 drojf whois: http://koha-community.org/faq/zebra-indexing-wont-work-fix-it-aka-search-stuff-up-help/ 07:29 whois => can you give me the solution fix? 07:29 whois Note: the OPAC interface not found any word, for example word "harry potter" 07:29 whois 2). Seach for the catalog: I do not find the word "harry potter" and receive the following message: "No results match your search for 'kw, wrdl: harry potter' in Library Catalog System." 07:29 whois 1). Seach for cataloging: I can find the word "harry potter" 07:29 wahanui i already had it that way, whois. 07:29 whois My current problem is as follows: 07:23 whois can you give me the solution does not fix? 07:15 drojf whois: sounds like you have to (re)index your files 07:12 whois you can fix this Christmas? not? 07:12 whois Note: the OPAC interface not found any word, for example from "harry potter" 07:12 whois Seach for the catalog +: I do not find the word "harry potter" and receive the following message: "No results match your search for 'kw, wrdl: harry potter' in Library Catalog System." 07:12 whois + For cataloging Seach: I can find the word "harry potter" 07:12 whois My current problem is as follows: 07:12 drojf whois: what do you need help with? 07:11 cait ts 07:11 drojf a happy little bot ;) 07:11 cait hey! 07:11 wahanui thanks drojf :) 07:11 drojf wahanui botsnack beer 07:09 wahanui i think the answer is always go back to sleep or 42 07:09 mbalmer and what is the answer? 07:08 drojf heh 07:08 wahanui the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" 07:08 drojf and what is the question? 07:07 whois i install koha ver 3.8.1 07:06 drojf http://tinphu.no-ip.info:8080 07:06 drojf whois: works without the space before the number 07:05 whois you can access the web staff koha: tinphu.no-ip.info: 8080 is not? 07:05 drojf moin mbalmer 07:05 whois while ago I talked with you in room # koha wajasu 07:05 mbalmer morgen! 07:05 mveron Hi mbalmer 07:04 Oak cait! 07:04 Oak kia ora #koha 07:03 whois yes! 07:02 mveron whois: Go ahead, ask questions :-) I got a lot of help here 06:59 whois please help me! 06:58 whois hi all 06:56 julian_m hi 06:46 mveron Guete morge drojf 06:45 drojf moin cait and mveron 06:44 * mveron waves back 06:44 * cait waves 06:43 drojf good morning #koha 06:42 wahanui bonjour, reiveune 06:42 reiveune hello 06:37 cait hi #koha 06:29 alex_a hello #koha ! 06:08 mveron Good morning #koha 05:18 Oak kia ora #koha 04:55 mtj wajasu++ 04:54 wajasu Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC i think you need to set the PERL5LIB and KOHA_CONF variables before running the rebuild script. 04:15 whois + Note that the interface is only found in the catalog OPAC Seach. 04:15 whois even if I search for "harry potter" in the catalog Seach receive the message: "No results match your search for 'kw, wrdl: harry potter' in Library Catalog System." 04:15 whois + Have the following problem: if I search for "harry potter" in cataloging the Biblios Seach reservoir in the list 04:09 whois but receive the message: Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. 04:08 whois i used command $KOHAPATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null 03:57 wajasu can you look on the wiki to try to rebuild the zebra index. and make sure the zerbasrv service is running. then the search may find your item. 03:26 mib_e3t80p I found the name harry potter found "An AZ of Harry Potter" I have install it and create successful item. then I go back home and find the catalog with staff from: "harry potter" shall receive the message: "No results match your search for 'kw, wrdl: harry potter' in Library Catalog System." so was it you? 03:16 wajasu i've got to go. late here. 03:16 wajasu library of congress: title: abraham lincoln or title: animal farm 03:04 mib_e3t80p can you give me a list of titles on the Z39.50 I find it? 02:57 wajasu on kohsa staff interface (8080), if yo installed z3950 servicers, you can select "Cataloguing" and z3950 search button. then search for author, then click on import link, and and an item. 02:54 mib_e3t80p now you only own a "how to get the data to find the name of the book can easily spend a" thank you! 02:53 wajasu $KOHAPATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null 02:53 wajasu export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml;export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib 02:52 mib_e3t80p i not install koha from git. 02:51 wajasu only the OPAC 02:50 wajasu i don't see it from USA. 02:50 druthb o/ 02:50 mib_e3t80p Vietnam all over the country have access to the link: http://tinphu.no-ip.info:8080. or you use a proxy for the link: http://tinphu.no-ip.info:8080 see it? 02:49 wajasu git, or koha-common? 02:49 wajasu did you install from git, ot koha-common 02:47 wajasu maybe you need Listen 8080 added to /etc/apache2/ports.conf 02:45 wajasu thats working fine. 02:44 mib_e3t80p i I was in Vietnam, I have internet but no static IP so I use the free service fai of no-ip 02:44 wajasu the OPAC works. nothing to find though. must need zebra index to be run. 02:43 wajasu if you are behind a NATed router, you might need to port forward port 8080. but folks don't usually do that on the internet. 02:41 wajasu it may work for you in your intranet, if its behind a firewall, or NAT router. 02:40 wajasu its trying to connect, but port 8080 may not getting to the koha host. http://tinphu.no-ip.info:80/ works though. 02:40 mib_e3t80p you login and test. 02:40 mib_e3t80p password: 123@koha 02:40 mib_e3t80p with info: user: koha 02:39 mib_e3t80p Demo Phần má»m quản: http://tinphu.no-ip.info:8080 02:38 wajasu Demo Phần má»m quản ... 02:38 wajasu http://tinphu.no-ip.info:8080/ is not accessible, probably and apache web config thing, but the OPAC is. 02:37 wajasu i reached your site. 02:37 wajasu on the wiki I see a warning for Ubuntu: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu 02:35 wajasu if you correctly define KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB in your commandline environment, you can run a /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl (see INSTALL in 02:33 mib_e3t80p you can go to my website with information koha: + Web for Employees: tinphu.no-ip.info: 8080 => user: koha; pass: 123 @ koha + Web OPAC: tinphu.no-ip.info => user: binhdd; pass: 123 @ binhdd 02:31 wajasu i assume you have imported some records, via staging or z3950 first. there should be a cron job that runs the zebra indexer to reindex the database. the search always uses the zebra server to "find" records. 02:28 wajasu verify that you have run/rebuilt the zebra index. and that zebrasrv is running. 02:27 mib_e3t80p currently we do not seek anything from the OPAC and staff interfaces? 02:27 m1n3cr4f7 new site to get premium minecraft upgrades, no info needed: http://totallyfreeminecraft.com/ supplies are limited so get yours now! 02:26 wajasu ok. 02:25 mib_e3t80p i install koha 3.8.1 on ubuntu 02:25 wajasu ask. 02:24 mib_e3t80p please help me about koha? 02:23 mib_e3t80p hi 02:18 ibeardslee thanks 02:15 m1n3cr4f7 new site to get premium minecraft upgrades, no info needed: http://totallyfreeminecraft.com/ supplies are limited so get yours now!