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23:33 * jcamins calls it a day. :)
23:33 jcamins :)
23:33 papa then you win :)
23:33 jcamins However, since waitpid works, and I just teed the output of the tests, I'm satisfied.
23:33 papa perldoc -f wait
23:32 jcamins Or not a regular function.
23:32 jcamins I think maybe wait is either new or old.
23:30 papa but fork and wait should be core as well
23:30 jcamins Well, sort of.
23:30 jcamins No worries. I figured it out. :)
23:30 * papa hides
23:29 papa ah, sorry, I was thinking sleep
23:28 jcamins Well, waitpid works.
23:24 papa the idea of perl was to replace sh/sed/awk, so everything these provide should be in core
23:23 jcamins Hm.
23:23 YoungPublicLibrarian Wizzyrea, are you still here or did something come up? Thanks
23:23 papa I think it is core
23:22 papa I don't think so
23:22 * jcamins tries.
23:22 jcamins use POSIX?
23:22 jcamins papa: do I need to use some module in order to use wait?
23:09 * jcamins supposes that fork() will be involved if he wants to tee the output to the tests.
23:08 jcamins Yay! My release-tool script now tees its subcommands' output to stdout when --verbose is specified!
22:33 YoungPublicLibrarian Did that work?
22:06 drojf hello again
22:04 pastebot "YoungPublicLibrarian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "SELECT b.surname, b.firstname," (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/444
22:03 jcamins paste.koha-community.org
22:01 YoungPublicLibrarian Should I just paste the report into here?
21:58 wizzyrea what do you have so far?
21:58 jcamins I think James may have just asked for help with that report.
21:55 YoungPublicLibrarian no problem. I have the fines and fees query that you helped me with last time. I would like to add code to it that asks for a specific start and end date to pull the fines and fees from, but I'm not sure what to add or where.
21:52 wizzyrea sorry, I was away from my desk
21:52 * wizzyrea waves
21:47 YoungPublicLibrarian Looking for someone to help me modify my KOHA query so it gives me the proper information on a report. Anyone available? (Eying Wizzyrea's name over there in the user column :D)
21:17 jcamins I always forget that git revert will cope with commits prior to the last.
21:17 jcamins BTW, reverting a dozen commits from within the last 500 or so is *way* more pleasant than trying to rebase them out.
20:55 libsysguy haha yeahhh
20:55 jcamins Thank goodness.
20:54 jcamins I can use git revert for commits prior to the last.
20:54 jcamins Oooh!
20:54 jcamins libsysguy: I'm trying to remove a commit that wasn't the last.
20:54 libsysguy jcamins what are you rebasing for?
20:53 jcamins Oh well.
20:53 jcamins There has got to be a better way to do this.
20:53 * jcamins rebases 497 patches.
20:35 wizzyrea :) np, happy to help
20:34 nengard thanks liz that worked - cpan didn't
20:34 jcamins nengard: you'll need to install Text::Unaccent. libtext-unaccent-perl
20:34 wizzyrea try sudo apt-get install libtext-unaccent-perl.
20:33 nengard Can't locate Text/Unaccent.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/nengard/kohaclone /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /home/nengard/kohaclone/C4/Members.pm line 41.
20:32 nengard just did a fetch and tried to install Text::Unaccent but it says it's not possible ? is this not the module I need?
20:32 oleonard Bye #koha
20:32 wizzyrea bye oleonard
20:32 oleonard Time for me to go too
20:31 wizzyrea hmm. I could make all of these icons for circ "on books…" too much?
20:29 wizzyrea later sekjal
20:29 oleonard Bye sekjal
20:29 sekjal okay, time for me to go. have a good night, all!
20:28 jcamins 50% reduction in the length of time it takes to load the page!
20:27 jcamins Now _that_ is what I'm talking about!
20:27 wizzyrea but I thought perhaps having two books next to each other, and one slanting and one not, might look odd.
20:27 wizzyrea just "transfer" really
20:26 wizzyrea I consider that winning.
20:26 * wizzyrea is glad that you got it without context.
20:26 * sekjal reads upwards to see that, yes, that was the context
20:26 sekjal wizzyrea: is that for a fast book transfer....
20:24 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/Zp01tZTAG
20:24 wizzyrea nm I just got rid of the bookmark :P
20:23 mbalmer I don't.
20:22 jcamins mbalmer: just make sure that you don't make any assumptions about the order of fields.
20:22 wizzyrea *nod* let me see if I can find a different book
20:21 oleonard wizzyrea: Maybe it doesn't need the bookmark?
20:21 mbalmer no, I don't interpret the fields in any way. I just produce them from the binary record ( and might soon be able to set them, as well)
20:21 wizzyrea oleonard: http://screencast.com/t/ktW51Gyp instead?
20:20 sekjal then that sounds good
20:20 sekjal if you're not making any use of the meanings of the fields, or whether subfields are required/optional or unique/multiple
20:19 mbalmer maybe the datatype should only be marc, not marc21?
20:18 mbalmer sekjal, that is good news for me. since my work on extracts the fields, but does not interpret them. so maybe naming the whole thing marc21 is not a good idea.
20:13 libsysguy ^^ this
20:11 jcamins It certainly is.
20:11 mbalmer well, marc is a minefield anyway ;)
20:11 sekjal mbalmer: the only difference between MARC21 and UNIMARC is the semantic meaning of the fields. the structure (field, subfields and indicators) is the same
20:11 jcamins Just 3 digit.
20:11 jcamins Nope.
20:11 mbalmer marc21 has only 3 digits.
20:10 mbalmer iirc, unimarc has 4 digit field tags.
20:10 jcamins (i.e. are you adding any semantic functionality?)
20:10 jcamins What makes it MARC21 versus UNIMARC?
20:10 jcamins Fair enough.
20:10 jcamins Ah.
20:09 mbalmer for the "proof of concept" I just do plain MARC21, then I will figure out how to add the other marcs.
20:09 jcamins And perhaps later on RUSMARC.
20:09 jcamins If you do MARC21 and UNIMARC, it means that someone would need to implement NORMARC.
20:09 mbalmer that is what I am unsure of. need to find out more details.
20:08 jcamins I think a generic type would be preferable.
20:08 jcamins mbalmer: you're implementing separate MARC21 and UNIMARC data types?
20:07 mbalmer marc21 is probably a better name for a MARC21 data type in an SQL database, I think I'll rename it so.
20:05 wizzyrea yea, you're probably right
20:05 oleonard Seems like that won't scale down well enough
20:04 wizzyrea something like this for "Transfer?" http://screencast.com/t/Q2YQS21khm
20:03 mbalmer back home
20:02 libsysguy oleonard TROLOLOLOL
20:02 libsysguy heh
20:02 * oleonard is gonna troll everyone by changing that tag to read "<META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="FrontPage 1.0">"
20:01 oleonard <meta name="generator" content="Koha 3.0900013" />
20:00 jcamins I'm pretty sure it's on 3.9.something.
20:00 wahanui http://head.bibkat.no/ is, like, now definitely running 3.8.0 :-)
20:00 oleonard http://head.bibkat.no/
19:59 jcamins head.bikat.no is your best bet.
19:58 libsysguy but i was on 3.08 before my update (what they are on now) and it was still broken
19:58 libsysguy its not
19:58 jcamins Check the demo is up to date?
19:58 libsysguy but I can see they are there on bywater's demo of master
19:57 libsysguy but they have been missing for awhile
19:57 libsysguy i am running 3.09.013 and suggestions are missing some of the tabs
19:56 libsysguy I have something weird happening with suggestions
19:56 libsysguy that is what I was thinking
19:56 libsysguy ok cool
19:55 sekjal Zebra configs are a big one there, but you can just symlink those once and be done
19:55 sekjal libsysguy: it's only really necessary if any of the install configs change, and you don't want to migrate them manually
19:54 libsysguy or can i just do a fetch and rebase all the time
19:54 libsysguy on a dev install should I ever have to run the installer again
19:49 * jcamins likes it.
19:47 wizzyrea a tiny slant makes it seem quicker to me :P http://screencast.com/t/HBtlVjYyD
19:47 wizzyrea I think they are too, I've heard that through the grapevine
19:47 wizzyrea i haven't
19:47 oleonard Which is to say, I believe that hold limits are broken in master. completely broken. Wondering if anyone else has found it to be so.
19:44 oleonard Has anyone else tested hold limits in master lately?
19:40 * wizzyrea will try that too
19:40 sekjal oh, just slanting the book in one direction, and putting some parallel lines after it to indicate motion
19:39 * wizzyrea wonders what sekjal's idea was
19:35 wizzyrea ooh
19:34 sekjal oleonard: oh, that's way better than my idea
19:33 oleonard Like with a lightning bolt?
19:33 wizzyrea I wish it said "fast" to me more. >.>
19:32 sekjal wizzyrea: neat!
19:31 jcamins Looks good to me.
19:31 jcamins That would make sense.
19:31 jcamins If it were caching image results.
19:31 jcamins You know where it would make sense?
19:30 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/hwA0byVJVb
19:30 wizzyrea something like this for fast add?
19:30 wizzyrea :)
19:30 jcamins :D
19:30 wizzyrea I cannot agree or disagree with an assertion that has or hasn't been made.
19:30 jcamins wizzyrea: do you disagree? :P
19:29 * wizzyrea boggles
19:29 * jcamins concludes definitively that nginx may or may not make sense in his situation.
19:13 jcamins *)
19:13 jcamins (the server that's slow is my dev VM)(
19:12 jcamins sekjal: since none of my actual servers have the problem, I think I'll just ignore it.
19:11 sekjal next step is to replicate on a separate install
19:11 libsysguy smeagol it's in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/css/staff-global.css but you should really override it from sysprefs
19:11 oleonard smeagol: Do you mean CSS?
19:11 sekjal jcamins: must be something on the server end, most likely with either your Apache settings, or perhaps the file system
19:10 Oak night guys
19:09 smeagol Hi all..where is the code for a.yuimenuitemlabel kept, in Koha?
19:08 jcamins On FF the difference is even more pronounced because I didn't clear my cache first: 779ms vs 24.54s.
19:06 jcamins Oh well.
19:06 jcamins No, I have the exact same problem in FF, so clearly it's not a browser-specific thing.
19:06 sekjal huh, not seeing the problem on Chromium
19:06 jcamins Those two are a serious problem for Apache.
19:04 jcamins Nope.
19:04 * jcamins falls asleep.
19:03 jcamins Could be a Chrome issue.
19:03 * jcamins will see what FF says.
19:02 * sekjal is using FF on Ubuntu, with Firebug
19:02 sekjal I'm getting 16ms and 20ms respectively, and once they're downloaded, my browser caches them.
19:01 jcamins Very peculiar.
19:01 jcamins /opac-tmpl/prog/en/lib/...
19:01 sekjal huh
19:00 jcamins They are indeed.
19:00 sekjal jcamins: are they loading from the same place as everything else?
18:59 jcamins sekjal: it doesn't _feel_ that slow to me, but I'm looking at the Network tab in Chrome, and it tells me that menu-min.js and jquery.js take about 16s to load.
18:58 sekjal jcamins: I'm on a git install, and I'm just not seeing the slowness you are. there's got to be more to the story...
18:57 jcamins Interesting.
18:56 jcamins (where work = cache stuff)
18:56 jcamins sekjal: the configuration for package installs seems to work, but the default configuration on git (!) does not?
18:53 sekjal jcamins: my browser is caching most of the css and js, and pageloads are in the 2s range (with Apache)
18:51 jcamins But the default Apache config doesn't have it doing that.
18:51 jcamins It should, yes.
18:51 sekjal shouldn't it cache in the user's browser?
18:51 jcamins Possibly this is a mistake.
18:50 jcamins I just use the default koha-httpd.conf.
18:50 jcamins sekjal: not with Apache.
18:50 libsysguy recursive jquery is recursive
18:50 sekjal is it not caching?
18:50 libsysguy infinate recursion
18:50 jcamins Do you see a theme here?
18:49 jcamins And...
18:49 jcamins And again.
18:49 jcamins And again.
18:49 jcamins Again.
18:49 jcamins And most of that time is spent *downloading jQuery*.
18:49 jcamins Yep.
18:49 sekjal 21.11s... oof
18:49 jcamins I wanted to confirm nginx was working.
18:49 jcamins sekjal: opac-main.pl.
18:48 sekjal jcamins: what are you loading?
18:48 libsysguy im just going to insert this here http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/adventcalendararticles/2008/02-catalyst_and_nginx
18:48 jcamins Freaking Apache.
18:48 libsysguy 0_0
18:48 jcamins Load time without nginx: 21.11s!
18:47 jcamins Load time with nginx: 4.42s.
18:47 libsysguy heh
18:47 wahanui jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins
18:47 libsysguy jcamins ?
18:47 libsysguy i guess you could make the form a questionaire
18:47 jcamins Wow!
18:46 libsysguy touche oleonard
18:46 oleonard What makes sense in English may not make sense in another language
18:46 libsysguy sweet
18:46 jcamins That makes sense.
18:46 libsysguy exactly
18:46 jcamins Oh, you mean when setting which notices to send when.
18:45 * libsysguy pities jcamins for testing nginx
18:44 libsysguy but I thought it might make more sence in a sentence
18:44 libsysguy well in a traditional form I think it could be confusing to fill out notices
18:44 * jcamins tests nginx.
18:43 jcamins Uhhh... huh?
18:43 libsysguy Notices Question: What if, instead of a traditional form for notices we make it more of a fill in the blank sentence. Ex for overdue: "(x) days (after) [date_due] for (occurences) times on interval (z)"
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7952 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , PDF::Reuse under plack writes to console STDOUT instead to browser
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7810 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , C4/Auth.pm - on plack restart session is undefined
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Use T::T date plugin to display dates omnibus
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Master , Add Item availability status to cart
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7941 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Fix version numbers in modules and set up a system to keep them up to date
17:57 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7952 - PDF::Reuse under plack writes to console STDOUT instead to browser
17:57 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7810 - C4/Auth.pm - on plack restart session is undefined
17:57 jenkins_koha * koha.sekjal: Bug 7444: Update circ/circulation.pl to use KohaDates TT Plugin
17:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: [PATCH] [SIGNED-OFF] bug 7570: add a space to the table header
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8171 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improper escaping of quotes during z39.50 queries leads to broken html
17:57 jenkins_koha * meenakshi.r: Bug 7570 - Add Item availability status to cart.
17:57 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7941 : Fix version numbers in modules
17:57 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8171 - Improper escaping of quotes during z39.50 queries leads to broken html
17:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #755: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/755/
17:09 jcamins It passes for me.
17:07 jcamins rangi: any idea why 00-testcritic.t is unhappy?
17:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #755 for job Koha_master (previous build: NOW UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #743 2 days 7 hr ago)
17:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #754: NOW UNSTABLE in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/754/
16:50 wizzyrea transfer: http://thenounproject.com/noun/sync/#icon-No290
16:48 jcamins They should be provided by the same package, though.
16:48 jcamins rangi: yes, we switched to Cache::Memcached::Fast after you sent me a link saying "Cache::Memcached can't handle UTF-8."
16:45 wizzyrea might be able to do something with one of these books: http://thenounproject.com/noun/book/#icon-No2051
16:44 wizzyrea http://thenounproject.com/noun/download/#icon-No2080 (checkin)
16:43 wizzyrea it would be perfect
16:43 wizzyrea if that were a book
16:43 wizzyrea lol.
16:43 wizzyrea checkout: http://thenounproject.com/noun/upload/#icon-No909 (technically, upload?)
16:42 oleonard Circulation rules? http://thenounproject.com/noun/stress/#icon-No1760
16:41 oleonard Not sure if that is a big deal or not
16:41 wizzyrea hmm
16:41 oleonard wizzyrea: We use something like that elsewhere to mean "receive" I think
16:40 jcamins Homepage = in Koha, not k-c.org.
16:40 jcamins Ohh.
16:40 wizzyrea http://thenounproject.com/noun/inbox/#icon-No406 checkin?
16:40 * jcamins is confused.
16:39 oleonard jcamins: To find that link
16:38 jcamins Why are we looking at that page?
16:36 wizzyrea of course.
16:36 wizzyrea lol.
16:34 oleonard http://thenounproject.com/
16:34 oleonard wizzyrea: We should have been looking at the about page!
16:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7952 - PDF::Reuse under plack writes to console STDOUT instead to browser <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc1ccb1d74fede81a0603193bc27b43fbaf51298> / Bug 7810 - C4/Auth.pm - on plack restart session is undefined <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=91bf568114b3181f340d29e6491ea0008ae9694f> / Bug 7444: Update circ/circulation.pl to use KohaDates TT Plugin <http
16:29 jcamins Right.
16:29 wahanui not everything is possible; do things the right way, and you'll be safe. :)
16:29 jcamins Okay, not everything.
16:27 jcamins My accountant fixed everything!
16:27 jcamins Woohoo!
16:27 oleonard Maybe
16:27 wizzyrea ah cool, maybe it's in the IRC logs?
16:26 * oleonard is trying to find it
16:26 oleonard wizzyrea: I remember gaetan showing me, but now I can't remember
16:25 wizzyrea but… don' tknow if they exist
16:25 wizzyrea and I have some ideas about what type of icons they would have
16:24 wizzyrea oleonard: any idea where they came from? I'd like to give the circ page a similar treatment
16:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8237 major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , HTML-table in timeline broken
16:24 mveron Bug 8237 - HTML-table in timeline broken
16:23 asaurat we now have some England soccer fans to taunt
16:23 matts As tweeted, this kohaconahackfestpubdrinks12 was really great !
16:22 matts bye #koha !
16:22 asaurat good bye and see you all very soon
16:22 matts time to go !
16:22 oleonard They're from a set wizzyrea
16:21 bencahill I use it pretty often :P
16:21 bencahill yep
16:21 wizzyrea that is super sweet.
16:21 wizzyrea I didn't know about tineye
16:20 bencahill :) np
16:20 wizzyrea bencahill++ thanks
16:20 bencahill wizzyrea: I don't have them off hand, but do a tineye.com search.
16:20 wizzyrea or are they from an icon set?
16:20 wizzyrea did someone at biblibre do them special for koha?
16:20 wizzyrea question, where did the icons for the home page come from?
16:18 cait packing up - cya all later I hope!
16:15 jenkins_koha Starting build #754 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #743 2 days 6 hr ago)
16:15 cait mveron: is there any chocolate left? ;)
16:15 rangi now its Cached::Memcached::Fast it wants
16:15 cait mveron: you could file a bug and send a patch :)
16:14 rangi it used to be just Cache::Memcached
16:14 rangi thats new
16:14 rangi ah yes, fast
16:11 mveron Should I file a bug regarding the tmeline?
16:08 cait heh
16:08 mrenvoize trust my name to cause issues with the timeline :p
16:06 cait mle_mac: I don't think we were using up a lot of bandwidth bug squashing
16:06 mle_mac shoudl i update the wiki?
16:06 mle_mac hehe
16:06 drojf mle_mac: it's alright, we have seen it live
16:06 cait mle_mac: I think it worked nicely :)
16:05 rangi yep,it's a tab separated file but i think people sometimes accidentally use spaces
16:05 mle_mac droif: We are using the backup plan. The plan was to have our own cat5 socket, but unfortunately the nearest one is in the library bar. they weren't too keen on my danglign cat5 cables out of the window and *they* were confident that the wifi would cope. ; /
16:04 mveron rangi: Just had a look at the file, seems to be true
16:04 rangi the timeline is drawn from the history.txt file
16:03 mle_mac droif: : (
16:03 rangi mveron: i think that happens when someone puts spaces instead of tabs in the history.txt file
16:03 drojf mle_mac: its slower now than in my guest house
16:03 rangi mle_mac: looks fine to me
16:02 mveron Who takes care of the timeline in Home › About Koha? Table does not display well, sometimes the date is together with the Description, e.g. December 6 2011 Martin Renvoize
16:02 jcamins It is if you want to use caching.
16:02 mle_mac droif: maybe, its 100Mbs dl so maybe not
16:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
16:02 oleonard Hey there are a couple of simple patches still awaiting signoff on Bug 7500. Just sayin'.
16:02 jcamins I didn't add that.
16:02 rangi its now a hard dependency?
16:02 drojf mle_mac: nice, let's kill the university wifi and everybody download the video
16:02 jcamins How was it working before?
16:01 rangi hmm ok
16:01 jcamins rangi: you need to install libcache-memcached-perl on jenkins.
16:01 jcamins Oh.
16:00 jcamins Uhhh... what?
16:00 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #753: STILL FAILING in 6 min 46 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/753/
15:58 mle_mac http://archive.org/details/Kohacon12ItsAllAboutThePeople first video uploaded. rangi please check details.
15:57 mle_mac boom!
15:54 * cait is guilty of that one
15:54 oleonard dpavlin: I think the problem is only faced by those running off of git
15:53 dpavlin 7411 did introduce a change to install_misc/debian.packages wasn't that sufficient?
15:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #753 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #743 2 days 6 hr ago)
15:52 rangi yep, it was just introduced
15:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7411 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , remove diacritics when automatically generating userid
15:51 oleonard Sees it was Bug 7411
15:51 jcamins Just saw the complaint from jenkins, and went went back to cursing bureaucracy, tax laws, and the legal definition of "disregarded entity" (or lack thereof!).
15:51 mveron Works, thanks!
15:51 * jcamins didn't actually look.
15:50 jcamins oleonard: that would make sense. :)
15:50 cait 250 kittens! yay!
15:50 * oleonard assumed "sudo apt-get install libtext-unaccent-perl" was the solution
15:49 jcamins Not sure what that's about.
15:49 jcamins mveron: yeah, jenkins was complaining too.
15:49 rangi 250 kittens
15:49 jcamins oleonard: thanks.
15:49 * oleonard holds jcamins' beverage for him so it doesn't spill
15:49 mveron Just did Git pull, have now Software Error / Can't locate Text/Unaccent.pm in @INC
15:46 * jcamins bangs his head against the table a bit more.
15:46 jcamins Thanks.
15:45 hdl1 And big whiskey
15:45 * hdl1 too
15:45 * jwagner gives jcamins a stiff drink regardless
15:44 jcamins [off] That depends. If I give a different one can I have a stiff drink?
15:44 eythian is that your final answer?
15:43 jcamins Blarglarglebargleaaaaaaaaaggggghhhhhhhh!
15:28 * jcamins curses bureaucracy.
15:28 oleonard New dependency?
15:26 * jcamins curses the IRS again.
15:26 mveron matts: http://paste.koha-community.org/443
15:24 rangi maybe not an intentional one :)
15:23 rangi heh
15:22 wizzyrea no, it's not a joke.
15:22 wizzyrea lol - wow, libraries and hot-rods - http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/boingboing/iBag/~3/ps9CTeW9tAI/the-librarian-and-the-hot-rod.html
15:20 * jcamins curses the IRS.
15:16 * oleonard doesn't like vague complaints without specific examples
15:16 mtompset Anyways... I'll be back tomorrow. Have a great day, everyone. :)
15:16 dpavlin cool. Since we didn't have a dalik attack this week, I think I'll me able to work on in a bit more in next few days.
15:15 oleonard dpavlin: And I'm sorry to have missed you all
15:15 oleonard dpavlin: I still think it's a good idea
15:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1918 enhancement, P3, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , Minify JavaScript and CSS
15:14 dpavlin oleonard: what do you think about Bug 1918? Does it make sense to work on this a bit more? [BTW, we miss you here ;-)]
15:14 mtompset Right... my attempt made everything look nice, except for #doc3 section.
15:14 oleonard mtompset: That's part of the gride framework: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/
15:13 mtompset Trying to put a nice border around the page.
15:13 mtompset or something similar... I'm going from memory.
15:12 mtompset For example, #doc3 { margin: auto 10px }
15:12 oleonard mtompset: What problem are you having?
15:12 oleonard tcohen: The original of that diagram is attached to this post: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 under the "Avenues of Customization" heading
15:12 mtompset A diagram would at least inform me of that.
15:12 mtompset Yes, but perhaps I'm coding something wrong.
15:12 oleonard mtompset: I don't think a diagram would help you with that
15:11 mtompset Hence my problem with CSS and not being able to over-ride things. :P
15:10 oleonard mtompset: Similar regions don't exist to that extent in the staff client
15:10 jcamins Hm. I will do that when I can.
15:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8235 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Packaging scripts get upset with non-Debian perl modules
15:10 eythian jcamins: you might want to have a look at bug 8235 some time, it'll make packaging a little bit nicer.
15:10 jcamins dpavlin: not at all!
15:10 jcamins Ah, nothing to do with CHI.
15:10 mtompset oleonard, is there something similar for the staff client?
15:10 dpavlin jcamins: Q: would you mind if I inserted some statistic counters in Koha::Cache so we can see how much is it helping?
15:10 jcamins What do you mean still failing?
15:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should use CHI caching framework
15:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7411 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , remove diacritics when automatically generating userid
15:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8004 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Items on Hold Lose Transfer After Being Scanned Twice
15:09 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8092: Cheer up Jenkins on loading Cache modules
15:09 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7411: Remove diacritics from generated userid
15:09 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8004 - Items on Hold Lose Transfer After Being Scanned Twice
15:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #752: STILL FAILING in 6 min 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/752/
15:09 tcohen but couldn't find it there :D
15:09 tcohen i was hoping to get it from your blog
15:09 tcohen thanks oleonard
15:09 oleonard http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=1529
15:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3708 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Add another customizable region to the OPAC: right sidebar
15:08 oleonard tcohen: A version of it is attached to Bug 3708
15:08 mtompset Bye, #koha folks.
15:08 mtompset I'm taking off too.
15:08 tcohen bye slef
15:08 mtompset Bye, slef.
15:08 slef bye everyone
15:08 oleonard tcohen: There is an image depicting the customizable regions
15:06 tcohen (divs)
15:05 tcohen is there an image depicting main opac page blocks?
15:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #752 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #743 2 days 5 hr ago)
15:03 alex_a dpavlin: i have Plugin:barcode.pl linked to my barcode field and i use autoBarcode. But can't reproduce :(
15:02 mtompset thanks, rangi. :)
15:02 dpavlin jcamins++ Now it's time for me to take a look where else could I insert CHI into.
15:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8092' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a453a881eca5524864d7a6860e830059aef1381e> / Bug 8092: Cheer up Jenkins on loading Cache modules <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a4514e0d45842e38e01e1a45d655dbf60cf6e61d> / Bug 7411: Remove diacritics from generated userid <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm
15:00 rangi http://koha-community.org/about/release-schedule/
15:00 rangi 3
14:59 rangi oh yes!
14:59 paul_p (she's a mid-wife, we will have a lot of fun teaching her all those things ;-) )
14:59 jcamins rangi: and Shari and Jared. :)
14:59 paul_p next KohaCon i'll come with my wife ;-)
14:59 rangi no we do timebased releases
14:59 mtompset eg 3.2.10, 3.4.11, 3.6.?
14:59 rangi mtompset: not a number, a time
14:59 cait :)
14:59 rangi and this kohacon we have sign offs from 2 couples, bob and irma and dobrica and marijana
14:58 mtompset is there a number at which 3.6 will be cut off and 3.10 introduced?
14:58 rangi sweet thanks paul_p
14:58 jcamins Yay!
14:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should use CHI caching framework
14:58 paul_p rangi = bug 8092 pushed
14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , plack scripts for developers
14:57 dpavlin want to try koha with plack? Bug 7844 might help... Hopefully it's now clean enough to make it work for everyone (thanks to rangi++ for last few nit-picks)
14:56 rangi thanks
14:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6175 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Mismatch between marc_subfield_structure and authorised_values tables
14:49 jcamins Bug 6175
14:49 paul_p rangi yep, will do just after failing QA the 6175 i'm QAing
14:49 rangi paul_p: can you push the last patch on 8092 please? to make jenkins happy
14:43 alex_a dpavlin: thx
14:42 dpavlin alex_a++ I'm painfully aware that they are hard to reproduce, it took me most of day to track down why I'm seeing them and nobody else does
14:41 dpavlin and you have to have barcode field on this screen to trigger problem. I *think* that is a framework config if I'm not mistaken.
14:40 dpavlin alex_a: yap. sorry if message wasn't too clear, I tried to translate what Marijana told me :-)
14:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8180 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , cataloguing/additem.pl plack scoping
14:38 alex_a dpavlin: for bug 8180. When you say item.barcode must be used in framework, you mean autoBarcode syspref ?
14:38 slef I think magnuse offered some troll or something
14:38 jcamins The second is still my favorite.
14:38 slef drojf: you are a very cruel person :)
14:38 jcamins dpavlin++
14:38 jcamins drojf: lol
14:37 wizzyrea oh cool, collection codes in statistics table. Nice one.
14:36 rangi new kitten photo
14:35 * drojf was hoping to see jcamins win the bottle of wine for most kittens so he would have to get to edinburgh to get it
14:34 jcamins cait: apparently so. :P
14:34 cait jcamins: perhaps it's because you are not fast enough? ;)
14:33 mtompset Hey, I didn't save any kittens. I hate cats. :P
14:33 jcamins Unfair!
14:33 jcamins Everyone is passing me by!
14:33 cait hurry on :P
14:33 jcamins Argh! Both of you have more kittens saved than me!
14:33 cait stupid flu1
14:33 cait and I am trying to catch up.... :)
14:32 cait but mrenvoize has one kitten more than me!!
14:32 mtompset Well, if fixing a bug is saving a kitten, then what is introducing one?
14:32 jcamins clrh: yay! That's the step I wanted!
14:32 cait no
14:32 slef cait: you sounded anguished!
14:32 * cait doesn't kill kittens
14:32 mtompset I think paul_p resurrected the kitten cait killed. ;)
14:32 clrh rangi: had installed it pon his laptop http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SearchEngine_Layer_RFC
14:31 clrh break nothing but adds syspref and conf and opac simple search
14:31 slef did cait just kill a kitten?
14:31 clrh :)
14:31 clrh I on it
14:31 clrh jcamins: next step is to provide a patch :)
14:30 * jcamins looks forward to signing off on things that centralize the interface to Zebra.
14:30 jcamins And two button mice.
14:29 jcamins And ugly computer hardware.
14:29 slef apple hates everyone
14:29 jcamins And freedom.
14:29 mtompset apple hates kittens?
14:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8233 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , New search engine layer - introduce solr without breaking anything else
14:29 alex_a paul_p: Okay!
14:29 jcamins clrh: so what's step one on bug 8233?
14:24 clrh kyleh_: you put things about namespace that we show in every rfc pages :)http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SearchEngine_Layer_RFC http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Discharge_RFC I think you edit the template
14:22 mgeist Some stray kittens, i think from the neighbor's, invaded my mom's van this weekend. She left the windows open...
14:22 drojf they probably have a kitten jail somewhere in china
14:22 rangi and free kittens most of all
14:22 drojf damn apple
14:21 rangi and freedom
14:21 rangi apple hates kittens
14:21 mgeist lol
14:21 * wizzyrea tries to think of something clever, gives up.
14:20 * paul_p QAing non biblibre patches now...
14:20 eythian wizzyrea: because you're on OSX
14:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8180 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , cataloguing/additem.pl plack scoping
14:20 paul_p alex_a = if you want to signoff bug 8180 and 8183, you'll be thanked ;-)
14:19 wizzyrea hm I don't see a kitten there either
14:19 eythian Maybe you're using some odd default font
14:18 oleonard Strange
14:18 rangi macs are notable for their bad unicode support, but normally it works for windows
14:18 rangi some don't
14:18 rangi its a unicode char, most things support it
14:17 oleonard PC
14:17 rangi using a mac?
14:17 * oleonard only sees "invalid character" squares
14:17 * oleonard wonders if he's supposed to be seeing some clever icon under the "kittens saved" column http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/
14:15 dpavlin there are few more kittens waiting to be rescured for those two :-)
14:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8183 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , acqui/parcels.pl plack scoping
14:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8180 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , cataloguing/additem.pl plack scoping
14:15 dpavlin I finally managed to track down all edge cases for bug 8180 and bug 8183 which are last two "hard" bugs that we know of to make plack work.
14:15 oleonard Did anyone take pictures at the hackfest?
14:10 jcamins eythian: yeah, they're not all direct Koha dependencies.
14:09 eythian the others I haven't needed yet.
14:09 eythian cgi::s::d::m is already in there, as is libgravatar-url-perl
14:08 jcamins Except for the ones that didn't make it onto my public apt repo yet.
14:08 jcamins Hmm.
14:07 jcamins eythian: http://apt.cpbibliography.com/koha/dists/dependencies/main/binary-amd64/Packages <-- the dependencies I have packaged for quick deployment on my servers.
14:06 * eythian has produced 10 new dependencies today, though most of them are for solr
14:06 jcamins eythian: :D
14:06 eythian jcamins: fwiw, I'm working on packaging CHI right now
14:06 hdl1 jcamins: http://korben.info/configurer-nginx-reverse-proxy.html
14:05 paul_p yesterday it was less than 10 !
14:05 paul_p wow... 46 patches to QA...
14:05 * bencahill doesn't know how to describe a Wubi install...
14:05 bencahill jcamins: Hey, we got a computer with an i3-2120 (although not the one for the server), and tried koha installed in a Wubi thing...it's awesome fast! (everything we tested under 1sec) :)
14:04 Oak gracias gracias
14:04 jcamins Oak++
14:04 jcamins Yay!
14:03 Oak jcamins: i'll learn about it how to do it then report :)
14:03 bencahill Oak: ;)
14:02 Oak bencahill: now clean sweat from the keyboard
14:02 Oak :( oho
14:01 * bencahill just ran a 17:36 (2mi)
14:01 jcamins Oak: the example of using nginx that I found forwarded all requests to Apache.
14:01 bencahill Yay!
14:00 * Oak goes to wiki to search nginx
13:59 jcamins Has anyone set up nginx for serving Koha's static content?
13:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Koha should use CHI caching framework
13:57 jcamins If someone wanted to sign off on the bug 8092 follow-up, we could cheer up Jenkins.
13:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4246 enhancement, P4, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Koha support for Itiva Talking Tech phone notification service
13:56 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Revert "Subroutine prototypes used at line XXX, column 1. See page 194 of PBP."
13:56 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 4246 Follow-up updatedatabase
13:56 jenkins_koha * kyle: Talking Tech Support - Phase I - Followup 3 - Follow PBP
13:56 jenkins_koha * kyle: Talking Tech Support - Phase I - Followup 2 - Bugfix
13:56 jenkins_koha * kyle: Talking Tech Support - Phase I - Followup - Fix Messaging Preferences
13:56 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Talking Tech Support - Phase I
13:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #751: STILL FAILING in 7 min 31 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/751/
13:54 sekjal okay, time for a meeting; later, #koha
13:54 jcamins From 3.8 to 3.10 (for example), expect big changes.
13:54 jcamins Within the stable branches, there probably won't be many changes from version to version.
13:54 mtompset based on version, or language?
13:54 * Oak waves back
13:54 jcamins mtompset: it varies.
13:53 mtompset how transportable are translation files from one version to the next?
13:53 * wizzyrea waves
13:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #751 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #743 2 days 4 hr ago)
13:47 jcamins mtompset: yes, there are scripts to create them.
13:46 mtompset I looks like .po files are simple mappings.
13:45 jcamins I think cait can tell you how to do that. :)
13:45 jcamins mtompset: in that case you'll need to create a new translation.
13:45 mtompset I was trying to figure out how to suggest to him to go about creating this NEW translation.
13:44 mtompset You're probably right, jcamins. However, a librarian colleague of mine was thinking about doing a Filipino/Tagalog translation.
13:42 jcamins mtompset: note that if you're using a release, you're much better off using the PO files that were included, generally speaking.
13:42 jcamins It lets you download PO files.
13:42 jcamins mtompset: click the Translate tab.
13:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Subroutine prototypes used at line XXX, column 1. See page 194 of PBP." <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3752be09d3a3c4142a3dadbc306f8985a4234489> / Bug 4246 Follow-up updatedatabase <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=591bae324d77d285b27dfa6e10dc7001671f53cc> / Talking Tech Support - Phase I - Followup 3 - Follow PBP <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
13:40 paul_p cait = pushed
13:38 cait thanks
13:38 paul_p reverting now
13:38 mtompset Didn't save it, but that's progress.
13:38 paul_p cait, ok got it
13:38 mtompset Interesting... I put /download on the end of the link, and it got the file.
13:38 cait it's the last commit to TmplTokenizer.pm and it breaks perl translate install/update etc.
13:37 mtompset and select a .po listed, I get thrown into the translate tab translating.
13:37 cait (Severity: 5)
13:37 cait Subroutine prototypes used at line XXX, column 1. See page 194 of PBP.
13:37 cait the title is
13:37 cait paul_p: I can't see one :(
13:37 mtompset If I go to the News tab....
13:36 mtompset None of the tabs seem to be help, jcamins. If I'm on Overview, and click any of the three .po's listed, I get thrown into translating on the translate tab.
13:36 paul_p cait= error: pathspec '583abead1b3d' did not match any file(s) known to git.. which bugnumber is it ?
13:34 cait or we need a follow up urgently
13:34 cait it totally breaks installing languages
13:33 cait paul_p: can you take a look at reverting 583abead1b3d537f78a3d558981b2e9abb2791ff?
13:32 jcamins There are tabs along the top when you're looking at a language.
13:32 jcamins mtompset: it's somewhere there.
13:32 mtompset I don't want to try to translate anything.
13:31 mtompset been there, jcamins, but I can't figure out how to grab a .po file...
13:31 * Oak waves
13:30 jcamins Cross-something?
13:30 jcamins What do you call the algorithm for determing relevancy and co-occurrence?
13:29 wahanui hmmm... translate.koha-community.org is back...
13:29 jcamins translate.koha-community.org
13:29 mtompset Hmmm... Where do I download .po files?
13:29 rangi !
13:28 matts \o/
13:28 oleonard Signed off!
13:26 matts rangi, patch 8229 submitted (but it only counts as as paw, or whiskers, not the entire kitty)
13:26 matts oleonard, done
13:18 matts oleonard, okay, thx
13:18 oleonard matts: Line 80 and 82 of marc_subfields_structure.tt. Remove the URL leaving just the portion starting with #
13:17 jcamins cait: maybe? That's what I'm thinking.
13:17 wahanui it has been said that RDA is a room in a twisty maze of standards
13:17 cait RDA?
13:16 jcamins "The director at my library heard of a new MARC." <-- Huh?
13:16 libsysguy but for poking away it should be ok :p
13:16 libsysguy i'd be more than happy to show it off, i think its still a little early to show it for actual judgement
13:15 matts oleonard, this bug is blocking me, i'll fix it right now if the fix is simple
13:15 jcamins Yeah, I thought paul_p might be interested in seeing that work.
13:15 libsysguy I am doing it in my proof
13:15 libsysguy not for anything that is currently implemented
13:13 jcamins libsysguy: didn't you do some work on DBIx::Class?
13:13 * marcelr seeing lots of warnings like File does not exist: /usr/share/koha/testclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/images in staff error log
13:13 jcamins paul_p++
13:12 oleonard I'll submit a patch later today if no one beats me to it
13:11 oleonard (my mistake, I must have missed editing those)
13:11 oleonard The tab link has a full URL instead of just the anchor portion
13:11 oleonard And a simple fix too
13:10 matts okay, know bug, then
13:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8229 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Tabs in marc subfield structure is not shown correctly
13:10 oleonard matts: Bug 8229
13:10 matts hey #koha, mveron and I just found a bug on master : when modifying a marc framework, adding a new subfield causes a strange-wrong-inclusion of header within the page... Can someone confirm this ?
13:09 paul_p jcamins = i'm back
13:08 rangi heh
13:07 oleonard Thanks for nothing Google.
13:07 oleonard In an incognito mode browser k-c.org is the second result for Koha. In my "main" browser www.ccfls.org/about-koha is the top link!
13:06 rangi know more about it than me
13:06 rangi oleonard: mtj and wizzyrea
13:06 oleonard Sometimes Google is just too clever for it's own (or anyone else's) good
13:06 rangi yeah
13:06 libsysguy I can't blame them
13:06 rangi so i can understand it
13:06 rangi does kinda look like spam
13:05 libsysguy i think i remember reading something about that on their blog
13:05 rangi a million links from one site
13:05 rangi thats one guess
13:05 libsysguy its becuase of the footer right?
13:05 rangi i suspect they reverted their change, which is why you can find the site again
13:05 libsysguy have we petitioned?
13:05 rangi indexing is the same
13:05 rangi no its just the way they rank it
13:04 rangi they just changed the way the algorithm works and penalised us (and tons of others)
13:04 oleonard It doesn't look to me like anything has changed about the way the site is indexed
13:04 jcamins eythian: just adding an option to choose what you tell the Makefile.
13:04 rangi since then we might work out their algorithm
13:04 eythian jcamins: what does it require?
13:04 rangi oleonard: no, they never ever ever do that
13:03 jcamins eythian: right now the packages do not support DOM indexing, and I can't quite figure out how to add support for that. Any hints?
13:02 oleonard Did we get specific feedback about it?
13:02 rangi oleonard: it appears to have come right, but from all the reading it looks like to be safe we should change the link so they dont dump us again
13:00 mtompset oldstable? sounds like Old Faithful. ;)
12:53 jcamins eythian: oldstable works perfectly. :)
12:46 mtompset Ah. Sounds like a useful utility. :)
12:45 oleonard rangi did the Google indexing problem get resolved?
12:45 eythian mtompset: no, it's a debian repository management utility
12:37 mtompset Is that a script you wrote?
12:34 eythian mtompset: because 'reprepro dumpunreferenced' told me
12:34 magnuse ooh 196 kittens!
12:29 mtompset I think http://youtu.be/sP4NMoJcFd4 is better. :P
12:28 slef the kittens thank you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxEHi6Mlzmk
12:27 jcamins Thanks.
12:27 jcamins Okay.
12:26 rangi he's at lunch
12:23 jcamins paul_p: around?
12:08 mveron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwPj0qgvfIs
12:08 mveron Maybe you all know the following link, something to smile. It is in Spanish, but you will understand...
12:08 oleonard mtompset: Yes, just now
12:06 mtompset Did you get my message about the CSS not over-riding?
12:05 mtompset Greetings, oleonard.
12:03 juan_sieira hi oleonard
12:03 marcelr hi oleonard
12:03 oleonard Hi #koha
12:02 marcelr goed, weer veilig thuis en zo
12:00 mveron Hoe is het ermee?
11:57 marcelr goedenmiddag :-)
11:57 mveron hi marcelr
11:57 marcelr hi koha, hi scotland
11:47 magnuse juan_sieira: excellent! ;-)
11:46 juan_sieira I'm creating a new bug in bugzilla
11:44 juan_sieira I'm redoing a patch, and when I were editing marc_subfield_structure.tt I saw it. I cant finish it, without fix this error
11:43 magnuse [off] http://head.bibkat.no:8080/cgi-bin/koha/admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl?op=add_form&tagfield=020&frameworkcode=FA login: demo/demo
11:43 juan_sieira it's not me, its a good - bad notice
11:43 magnuse wow, that's weird
11:43 juan_sieira uff¡, ok
11:43 magnuse juan_sieira: yes, i see it
11:40 mveron matts: 7294 ?
11:40 slef matts: watch...
11:40 slef matts: mveron says he is running away
11:40 cait nacht means night in German, so was wondering
11:39 cait ah :)
11:38 nacht nope from Belgium i got this link on Kohacon12
11:38 cait hi nacht - german?
11:38 juan_sieira magnuse, can you confirm this error in current master?
11:37 nacht ow hey
11:37 magnuse welcome, nacht
11:36 juan_sieira Hi magnuse
11:35 matts if you could test 7294 for signoff it would be greeeeeeeeat :)
11:35 matts :)
11:35 matts mveron, will you be my victim ?
11:35 matts slef, okay !
11:35 nacht first time here hy all
11:34 slef mtompset: locate koha-install-log || find /usr/share/koha -name koha-install-log
11:34 juan_sieira at current master
11:34 slef mtompset: I guess /usr/share/koha/misc
11:34 mtompset /path/to/koha-install-log? Where is it by default?
11:34 slef matts: if you want it today I think you will need to find a new victim. I've fires starting left right and centre
11:33 juan_sieira firefox or chrome
11:33 juan_sieira http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1976/adconstraints.png
11:33 juan_sieira I saw it in this way ... now
11:33 juan_sieira I got to confirm an error when editing subfields, in adminitration
11:33 magnuse hola juan_sieira!
11:33 magnuse jcamins: yay!
11:33 juan_sieira hi,
11:33 jcamins magnuse: yes, I'll push that to 3.6-testing now, and it'll go into 3.6.6.
11:31 jcamins That's okay. Read the upgrading section in INSTALL.debian.
11:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7294 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , status "in order"
11:31 matts slef, will you have a look at bug 7294 or shall i find another victim ? :)
11:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Shelving Location facet instead of Branch facet when only 1 branch configured
11:31 bengard can someone sign off on my sign off on bug 7401 ?
11:31 mtompset ubuntu. :P
11:31 clrh http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Unit_Tests and after lunch I'll provide a new Continupous integration page :)
11:31 jcamins mtompset: read INSTALL.debian.
11:30 mtompset upgrading documentation?
11:30 jcamins mtompset: did you read the section on upgrading in the install documentation?
11:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC
11:30 magnuse jcamins: any plans on getting the solution for bug 7894 into 3.6.x?
11:30 jcamins mtompset: using tarball, packages, whichever.
11:30 mtompset How do I transport my data and settings over then?
11:29 mtompset from scratch?
11:29 jcamins mtompset: install 3.8.1 in the same way you installed 3.6.3.
11:29 magnuse thanks jcamins!
11:29 mtompset What's the best way to upgrade to 3.8.1?
11:28 mtompset Let's say I have 3.6.3 installed.
11:27 jcamins sortmax.
11:27 jcamins etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg
11:26 magnuse hehe
11:26 cait I don#t know where I have seen it actually
11:26 cait I think it was on the mailinglist... or the wiki... or bugzilla
11:26 cait hmmm
11:26 magnuse cait: is it documented anywhere?
11:26 cait magnuse: sth like a known issue, more sorting, slower...
11:26 cait magnuse: i think you have to change a zebra setting
11:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC
11:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8225 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Problem to view title details in OPAC result
11:24 magnuse is there already a bug for records from number 1000 not being sorted properly? it's mentioned in bug 8225, which is mostly a duplicate of bug 7894 anyway
11:22 mtompset how did you know it was unreferenced?
11:18 magnuse eythian++
11:17 jcamins Thanks.
11:16 eythian jcamins: btw I cleaned all the old 3.2 stuff out of the repo, it was totally unreferenced.
11:15 mtompset Thanks, magnuse, that is a useful link.
11:15 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 39.0°C (4:00 PM PKT on June 11, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
11:15 Oak @wunder islamabad
11:14 mtompset I was noticing that, for example, qw() can be qw/.../ or qw(...) or qw{ }?
11:14 magnuse mtompset: something like http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines ?
11:14 kyleh_ http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-patent-prevents-students-from-sharing-books-120610/
11:13 mtompset Out of curiosity, has anyone every discussed programming style?
11:13 Oak Greetings mtompset :)
11:12 mtompset Greetings, Oak.
11:12 magnuse Oak
11:12 Oak magnuse
11:11 * magnuse waves
11:10 cait hi Oak and jcamins :)
11:10 jcamins eythian: I'll take a look at the oldstable.
11:10 Oak :)
11:10 jcamins Greetings.
11:10 Oak Ahoy jcamins and cait
11:09 Oak Brooke !
11:08 mveron clrh: Thanks regarding 5335, already testing
11:04 rangi righto looking now
11:02 dpavlin rangi: 8180 and 8183 if possible :-)
11:01 rangi what would you like me to test?
11:01 rangi dpavlin: up and running now
10:59 rangi ta
10:58 dpavlin I will re-submit patch without that dependency
10:57 dpavlin_away rangi: good catch. Just remove Koha from enable_if { $ENV{PLACK_DEBUG} } 'Debug', panels => [
10:55 huginn 04Bug 5335: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , More granular VAT
10:55 clrh mveron: cait vat is back ;) http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5335
10:54 clrh julian_m: and Joubu enters the scoreboard ;) http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/
10:53 mtompset Hello, Brooke.
10:52 wahanui hi, Brooke
10:52 Brooke howdy
10:52 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
10:49 rangi clrh: http://www.scotchwhiskyexperience.co.uk/
10:48 rangi dpavlin_away: Can't locate Plack/Middleware/Debug/Koha.pm
10:43 eythian jcamins_away: 3.6 packages are uploading into the 'oldstable' repo. Can you give it a bit of a test and if it looks good, I'll update the wiki
10:38 cait [off] http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/Verbindungs-Einstellungen_002.png
10:37 Brooke ahoy
10:37 jransom heya brooke
10:36 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=release-tools.git;a=summary
10:36 rangi git clone git://git.koha-community.org/release-tools.git
10:36 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/442
10:14 Brooke how's it going?
10:14 cait hi Brooke
10:11 Brooke hi cait
09:59 * Brooke needs think over some of the listserv stuff.
09:59 Brooke ta for all the hard work
09:59 Brooke you have been very busy :D
09:59 Brooke bonjour
09:58 paul_p Hi Brooke !
09:57 Brooke howdy tj
09:52 mib_sdyg8l getting software error when clicking first title of the 2nd page to view title details ver. 3.6.4
09:49 mle i forgot my heafphones. can anyone lend me some for editing?
09:36 mrenvoize wikiwise.. we use "ConfirmAccount" + "ConfirmEdit" at a number of my wiki's the prevent the spam problem.. human spammers still get through to the admins, but as long as you've got a good number of admins on the wiki then it's reasonably easy to sort the cruft form the real users.
09:31 eythian jcamins_away: almost have the oldstable ready to go, just adding the dependencies to it.
09:24 samuel hi everybody
08:47 slef mveron: currently I think we have to beg gmcharlt or thd-away` to approve accounts manually, which does not scale.
08:46 slef mveron: wiki mail is down, sadly, because of the number of spammers. We need a better solution. Search irc logs for gmcharlt's comments
08:31 mveron Still no confirmation mail for Wiki access. Would like to do some documentation for the age restriction functionality.
08:23 matts hello !
08:21 alex_a bonjour!
08:15 mveron Good morning #koha
08:14 mrenvoize good morning all (those in the uk anyways..)
08:14 sophie_m good morning #koha
08:13 jransom hi theree
08:13 clrh hello
07:27 * Oak waves
07:17 drojf good morning #koha
07:06 mle rummages about even
07:05 * mle rummags for a kilt
07:05 mle ty for reminding me cait
07:00 julian_m hello
06:53 cait slef: you want to leave?
06:52 cait hi mle - are you wearing your debian kilt today?
06:50 slef ok, place your bets... will I get home today, tomorrow or later? ;)
06:49 slef blurgh
06:46 mle hi cait, hi reivenue
06:44 reiveune hi cait :)
06:44 cait hi reiveune :)
06:41 reiveune hello
05:55 mtj woo, looks like i just sent you some 'topical' email rangi :p
05:37 Oak to tray
05:37 Oak pressing close X button now closes xchat instead of minimizing it...
05:29 Oak ah
05:29 rangi It had dropped right out of the results for a few days
05:29 rangi Hmm can't recall
05:28 Oak or was it always like that? the "Official" part?
05:26 Oak "Official Website of the Koha Open Source ILS" \o/
05:25 rangi Looks like its all fixed
05:25 rangi Try googling for koha or koha community
05:25 Oak what happened?
05:25 Oak hey rangi :)
05:24 rangi Yay
04:19 Oak hello druthb :)
04:19 druthb hi, Oak! :)
04:18 * Oak waves
02:47 mtj hmmm, looks close -> http://www.tt2.org/docs/modules/Template/Plugin/Dumper.html
02:46 jcamins Good night.
02:46 jcamins Well, after sleeping, which is the very best option of all.
02:46 jcamins I think tying the hash would really be the best option.
02:46 jcamins That would be very difficult to do.
02:45 mtj ... a way to dump all data-structures for a template object
02:45 mtj still, an interesting thing i would like to see...
02:43 mtj ok, i got it sorted now :p - thanx for the brain-SLAP!!!
02:42 mtj click, you are correct here! :)
02:42 jcamins And if it's an include, it shouldn't be page-specific.
02:42 mtj i was hoping that some currently available info was already being passed to the template
02:42 jcamins Though, I'm also having trouble seeing why more than one Perl file would be calling a particular template, unless it's an include.
02:41 jcamins It depends what the patch is for, but I feel pretty sure that it would make more sense to modify opac-main.
02:41 mtj i might just add that 1-liner to opac-main.pl - for the quick-fix :)
02:40 mtj yep, sure... i was trying for a patch that didnt modify opac-main.pl, needlessly
02:39 jcamins Or, use the variable that tells you what your current URL is.
02:39 jcamins (and whatever other pages you're interested in)
02:38 jcamins Have opac-main.pl pass in a particular argument.
02:37 mtj so i'm trying to write a bit of TT code, to identify if it was generated by opac-main.pl, basically...
02:36 jcamins Yeah, you'll definitely have to explain what you want to do.
02:35 mtj ... and see if any of that data contains and .pl or .tt strings
02:34 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
02:34 jcamins First question?
02:34 jcamins Okay, let's start over.
02:34 mtj yep
02:33 mtj basically, i need some code in a tt file, to identify what .pl or .tt file it was called with...
02:33 jcamins You want to know the variables used by the template.
02:33 jcamins That won't help.
02:33 jcamins Hm.
02:33 mtj objects
02:32 mtj http://www.tt2.org/docs/manual/Variables.html#section_Objects
02:32 mtj oops! :)
02:32 jcamins You sent a link to a brief writeup on BLOCKs.
02:31 mtj am i missing something stupid?
02:31 mtj hmm, no
02:31 jcamins I think possibly you sent the wrong link?
02:30 mtj ...that looks pretty close to what i need
02:29 mtj well..., there's a tt code snippet showing a cgi object getting dumped to the screen
02:28 jcamins mtj: in what way?
02:27 mtj ooh, that look like the solution? -> http://www.tt2.org/docs/manual/Variables.html#section_Local_and_Global_Variables
02:26 mtj http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=749813
02:26 mtj http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=641731
02:26 mtj i can see a few people asking the Q on perlmonks, but no real answer... :/
02:25 mtj heres a random T::T questions... how to see/dump all T::T variables used for a page generation?