Time  Nick           Message
22:46 * chris_n      shuts down his Win32 koha for good
22:27 kathryn        hi all! ooh I wonder if all the Edinburgh people are tucked up in bed
22:18 huginn`        cait: The current temperature in Mid Kinleith, Currie, United Kingdom is 8.5°C (11:18 PM BST on June 04, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
22:18 cait           @wunder EDI
22:17 cait           good night all!
21:50 magnuse        good night #koha - here's hoping everyone in edinburgh will have a ton of fun in the coming week!
21:49 magnuse        i should.
21:49 slef           Land of Hops and Stories
21:48 wizzyrea       lol.
21:48 wizzyrea       oh yes. You should be sleeping right now.
21:47 magnuse        slef: probably more busy when they both come home from hospital (well, at least i will not have to drive there twice every day...)
21:47 magnuse        yay!
21:46 drojf          magnuse: congratulations. the british have fireworks just now, i suppose its for you ;)
21:46 slef           magnuse: congratulations. You must be very busy ;)
21:45 magnuse        slef: i persuaded every library in norway to use koha. nah...
21:45 cait           magnuse: hey, the norwegian is like the german!
21:44 magnuse        wizzyrea: baby ;-)
21:44 wizzyrea       what's the norwegian word for "baby?"
21:43 slef           what did I miss?
21:40 wizzyrea       yes, definitely congrats are in order
21:39 magnuse        rangi: thanks!
21:39 rangi          magnuse: CONGRATS!!!!!
21:38 * rangi        wanders in again
21:37 drojf          goodness
21:36 slef           has replaced phillip with a younger man
21:36 slef           queen going to sing on bbc1 now
21:35 cait           only little bit fuzzy - sadly
21:34 cait           yep
21:34 magnuse        ah, ours are just a little bit fuzzy ;-)
21:34 magnuse        hehe
21:33 wahanui        magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
21:33 wizzyrea       magnuse!
21:33 slef           fluffy bits
21:33 wizzyrea       it's quite impressive.
21:33 wizzyrea       here
21:33 wizzyrea       they often sell them with full fuzz
21:33 slef           at the top
21:33 wizzyrea       yea, the greens
21:33 cait           perhaps the greens
21:32 magnuse        fennel = fuzzy?
21:32 wizzyrea       apparently?
21:31 cait           is fennel so unusual?
21:31 cait           lol
21:30 wizzyrea       :)
21:30 wizzyrea       so I have to tell them
21:29 wizzyrea       and then they have to ask me wtf I do with it.
21:29 wizzyrea       people see me with those fuzzy things in my cart and they can't help themselves they have to ask me what they ar
21:29 cait           :)
21:29 cait           and yay
21:29 cait           lol
21:29 wizzyrea       I've been preaching the gospel of cait's fennel salad across lawrence.
21:29 cait           but too lazy to make some
21:29 wizzyrea       hehe
21:29 cait           I brought tea, because I don't like black tea
21:28 wizzyrea       guinness from a tea cup. Epic.
21:28 cait           lol
21:28 * drojf        drinks guinness from a tea cup
21:27 drojf          making slides, or going for a walk?
21:26 drojf          i had a really short night :/
21:26 cait           rest your eyes? ;)
21:26 drojf          sounds good
21:26 drojf          heh
21:26 slef           well cheap for the UK
21:26 slef           fairly cheap too
21:25 slef           it seems pretty good
21:25 slef           nah left to get food... niw back in room
21:25 drojf          how was the library bar? or are you still there?
21:25 slef           these things are sent to test us :)
21:24 drojf          ouch @ rangi
21:24 slef           it will arrive tomorrow
21:23 drojf          unfortunately had to rest my eyes shortly and misses dinner
21:23 slef           rangi is missing at least one case
21:23 slef           yeah rangi was here
21:23 drojf          yes!
21:23 drojf          hola :)
21:23 cait           hope you arrived too?
21:23 cait           hey drojf :)
21:23 cait           I mean didn't meet him, but both arrived at the hotel :)
21:22 cait           and robin is supposed to be here too
21:22 cait           met rangi
21:22 cait           sleep
21:21 slef           do I put some packs together or sleep?
21:21 * slef         waves
21:19 * cait         wavesw
21:13 wahanui        you are not at home so please email kohacon12 AT software.coop instead
21:13 slef           wahanui: slef?
21:13 slef           slef is not at home so please email kohacon12 AT software.coop instead
21:12 wahanui        slef: I forgot slef
21:12 slef           forget slef
21:12 slef           good idea
21:12 Brooke         might want to train waha to say that for a few days
21:12 wahanui        slef is an avid cyclist
21:12 Brooke         slef?
21:11 slef           just hope people used it and didn't try to mail me direct
21:11 slef           ISP is having mailserver trouble... glad we made a software.coop mailbox for kohacon
21:09 slef           apparently I still don't have access to my koha list email :(
21:08 Brooke         or a proper bagpipe bag. These kids and their plastic garbage.
21:06 datadoctor     Of course you might need a sheep if you are going to make some haggis!
21:05 slef           rangi: :(
21:05 magnuse        Brooke: rangi did say sleep, not sheep ;-)
21:05 datadoctor     Right y'all! Get some rest and have a fantastic KohaCon!
21:05 Brooke         remember that whatever sheep you choose as a bedfellow, a Scot has already been there. *duck*
21:03 rangi          and now, i should shower and run through my presentation and get some sleep
21:02 Brooke         smelly presenters > 0 presenters
21:02 rangi          :)
21:02 rangi          ill be the smelly presenter tomorrow
21:02 magnuse        ouch, poor kohacon then ;-)
21:01 Brooke         argh
21:01 rangi          and my not smelly clothes
21:01 chilts         :(
21:01 rangi          unfortunately it has all the brochures and stuff in it
21:01 chilts         and so they should
21:01 rangi          around 12, they are gonna courier it to the hotel
21:01 rangi          so its now in singapore, and arrives tomorrow
21:01 rangi          eggs
21:01 rangi          they sent it to chch, instead of auckland
21:00 chilts         or probably don't know yet :(
21:00 chilts         rangi: what happened? lost, missing or just misplaced?
21:00 magnuse        ouch, poor rangi
21:00 * rangi        arrives without his luggage
20:59 * slef         climbs back on the net
20:56 Brooke         how's yer day?
20:56 magnuse        um, huh?
20:55 Brooke         i pehea to ra?
20:54 Brooke         kia orrar
20:54 Brooke         o/
20:54 magnuse        kia ora Brooke!
20:54 magnuse        nice picture of you on flickr, courtesy of nengard
20:54 magnuse        kia ora slef!
20:52 * slef         waves at magnuse
20:52 * magnuse      waves in the direction of edinburgh
20:40 sekjal         g'night, #koha!
20:34 sekjal         no using the leter 't' properly, apparenly, eiher
20:33 sekjal         no talking to you, huginn
20:33 huginn`        04Bug 369140: was not found.
20:33 sekjal         https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369140, perhaps?
20:25 wizzyrea       since it doesn't happen in chrome on the same patron.
20:25 wizzyrea       and not in koha
20:25 wizzyrea       ah probably so - my gut said it was a problem in firefox
20:24 datadoctor     I think it takes place when the table length exceeds the print page size.
20:22 datadoctor     When the table is too long, Firefox becomes confused. We saw it with printing patron records, where the print slip, or print quickslip is available as an alternative to Ctrl-P.
20:21 datadoctor     I believe it is a bug in Firefox, we ended up using Chrome in those cases.
20:20 wizzyrea       no choice, the display they want isn't available with that.
20:19 datadoctor     Don't use CTRL-p, use the print slip or print quickslip feature. Something to do with long tables.
20:16 oleonard       See y'all tomorrow
20:16 oleonard       Unfortunately those two pages are holidays.pl and subscription-detail.pl. But I'll manage!
20:15 wizzyrea       ooh!
20:15 * oleonard     has just a couple more pages to modify to finish his first round of work on jqueryUI datepickers
20:15 wizzyrea       the only thing in the console is "[15:13:30.348] Use of getAttributeNode() is deprecated. Use getAttribute() instead. @ http://staff.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/members/boraccount.pl?borrowernumber=21082"
20:14 * oleonard     has seen Firefox crash on print before
20:13 wizzyrea       …but uh, apparently it doesn't do it on every patron with lots of fines?! Yep, that's the one
20:13 oleonard       Fines tab on circulation.pl?
20:13 wizzyrea       load a patron, click on fines tab, this particular patron has a lot of them, ctrl-p, crash.
20:12 oleonard       What are the steps wizzyrea?
20:11 wizzyrea       wow, anyone else get a firefox crash when trying to print fines a patron account?
19:58 oleonard       Looks like it should be bedtime, not writing time!
19:58 nengard        k - time to write a presentation for tomorrow - and one for tuesday if i can keep my eyes open
19:57 nengard        but I don't remember which library asked us to add it
19:57 nengard        we did :)
19:54 oleonard       Who added that?
19:53 nengard        ? but i'm guessing
19:53 nengard        it's rare they would suspend 1
19:53 nengard        i think the library who asked for it asked for the ALL option because if a patron is going on vacation or something they want to suspend all holds
19:53 nengard        yeah me too
19:53 oleonard       Oh I was expecting to see it on the patron record.
19:53 nengard        and you will see it
19:52 nengard        click on the holds tab on the left
19:52 nengard        go to the bib record
19:52 nengard        in the staff client
19:52 oleonard       Where?
19:52 nengard        right
19:52 wizzyrea       ^^ right, patrons can't
19:52 nengard        by going to the holds tab on the bib record
19:52 nengard        oleonard staff can d it one by one
19:52 oleonard       Suspend all and resume all seem to be the options
19:51 wizzyrea       ?
19:51 wizzyrea       there isn't a button
19:50 * oleonard     wonders why you have to suspend and resume all holds at once instead of individually
19:50 * oleonard     has still never met slef in person!
19:49 oleonard       ^^
19:49 wizzyrea       lucky :)
19:49 nengard        just had dinner with the BibLibre bunch, MJ, Cait and a few others
19:48 wizzyrea       fantastic :)
19:48 nengard        just in time to speak tomorrow
19:48 nengard        finally better :)
19:48 wizzyrea       heya nengard, how ya feelin?
19:46 wizzyrea       that seems wrong.
19:42 oleonard       Is it just me or does that seem wrong?
19:41 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8188 major, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , OPAC allow hold date in future requires both OPAC and staff-side preferences to be ON
19:41 oleonard       Bug 8188
19:13 sekjal         vectoriffic!
19:12 wahanui        vector art is, like, found in /misc/interface_customization
19:12 wizzyrea       vector art?
19:12 wizzyrea       vector art is found in /misc/interface_customization
19:11 gmcharlt       oleonard++ # my hero
19:11 oleonard       koha3-staff-client-logo.svg
19:11 wizzyrea       oooooooo
19:11 oleonard       gmcharlt: /misc/interface_customization
19:11 gmcharlt       I noticed that you had made one for kohacon12
19:11 wizzyrea       he's practically sentient.
19:11 wizzyrea       sometimes he knows
19:11 wizzyrea       hehe
19:11 gmcharlt       wajasu: do you have a vector versno of the stock Koha log?
19:11 gmcharlt       er, why I am asking the bot
19:10 wahanui        no idea, gmcharlt
19:10 gmcharlt       wahanui: do you have a vector version of the stock Koha logo?
19:03 wizzyrea       hm?
19:01 * oleonard     hums and drums his fingers on the table
18:27 wizzyrea       oof
18:05 chris_n        lots_of_upset_users--
18:04 chris_n        it finally tracked down a regularly random parity error on one of two xeon processors in a critical file server
18:04 chris_n        if you're chasing random reboots, and your logs don't help, try mcelog
16:55 * slef         afk
16:55 slef           see you there!
16:54 slef           I think we're on nicolson
16:54 cait           I am in windsor street...
16:54 cait           looking it up now
16:54 cait           well, still at the hotel, but not sure where the library bar is
16:53 slef           3 streets away
16:53 cait           same here
16:53 cait           heh
16:53 slef           some street
16:53 cait           where are you slef?
16:53 cait           at hotel now
16:53 cait           me too
16:53 slef           arrived, heading to library bar, be a bit late
16:51 * jwagner      wishes I were there too
16:51 cait           I will miss lots of people
16:51 cait           we wish that too
16:51 sekjal         really wish I could have made it this year...
16:50 sekjal         I'd like to piggy-back on oleonard's "hi" with a "hello" of my own
16:50 cait           hi sekjal :)
16:50 sekjal         hi cait
16:50 * cait         wishes you could be here too!
16:50 cait           I will
16:49 * oleonard     wishes he could be there too!
16:49 oleonard       Tell everyone hi from Owen
16:47 cait           now looking where I am and how to get to the library bar
16:47 cait           just got into my room
16:47 cait           yep
16:47 cait           hi oleonard :)
16:47 oleonard       Have you arrived?
16:47 oleonard       Hi cait
16:36 mtompset       Bye.
16:35 mtompset       Good day (24 hour period) to everyone on #koha.
16:35 mtompset       I never left. :P
16:14 wizzyrea       oh good everyone's back
16:07 oleonard       Well.
15:56 mtompset       Hmm.... I really should be doing development at night... my netbook is running 4-5 celcius cooler.
15:55 mtompset       Bye, gaetan_B.
15:54 gaetan_B       bye !
15:53 mtompset       The yaz modules are used by zebra, right?
15:52 mtompset       ^Is^Are^
15:52 mtompset       Is the libyaz3 and libyaz4 api's equivalent as far as koha cares?
15:50 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8176 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Passed QA , $sqlwhere is undefined in C4::Serials in GetSubscriptions
15:50 mtompset       bug 8176
15:49 mtompset       8176
15:46 wahanui        oleonard: I forgot which one
15:46 oleonard       wahanui: forget which one
15:38 wahanui        which one is it
15:38 wizzyrea       which one
15:36 mtompset       Sweet... a bug of mine was signed off and passed QA. YAY! :)
15:33 mtompset       Any ideas on how to upgrade your OS' perl?
15:26 mtompset       11:25pm makes it near midnight or lunch (EST), both timezones which matter to me. :P
15:25 wizzyrea       and hey I'm an hour behind you, it's still firmly in "morning" here.
15:25 wizzyrea       first *koha* thing. ;)
15:25 oleonard       for some definitions of first thing ;)
15:24 wizzyrea       and I've already dropped something on my foot.
15:24 wizzyrea       oh it's first thing monday morning for me :P
15:24 mtompset       And all just before lunch or midnight, depending on your timezone?
15:20 wizzyrea       bonus suck, I should say.
15:20 wizzyrea       neither working is just bonus.
15:20 oleonard       This in and of itself is a bug
15:20 oleonard       Unfortunately the circulation rules system didn't fully replace the maxreserves preferences so both persist
15:19 oleonard       There is a maxreserves system preference which pre-dates the circulation rules matrix
15:19 wizzyrea       ^^ yes, this.
15:19 oleonard       Discussions are on bugzilla where the discussion is about a bug
15:19 wizzyrea       sometimes they are on the dev list. But lots of times discussion is on bugzilla.
15:18 mtompset       should discussions be on bugzilla? How will people make sense of it unless they hop all the bugs?
15:18 wizzyrea       dunno there's a whole discussion of it in bugzilla somewhere
15:17 mtompset       why are there two sets of limits?
15:15 wizzyrea       and almost none of them seem to work in the OPAC.
15:15 wizzyrea       there has been some discussion about which limits to save - the circ rules limits, the syspref limits...
15:12 * oleonard     can always hope
15:11 hdl            oleonard: it is a nice bug to find, while every one is at koha con and have a hackfest by the end of the week :D
15:09 Oak_           oleonard++
15:09 reiveune       bye
15:09 oleonard       It's a nice bug to find while everyone in Koha is on vacation :P
14:52 mtompset       Just wish they weren't as critical as broken limits. :)
14:51 mtompset       Hey, finding bugs is earning your wages. ;)
14:50 oleonard       I'm not blocked from making too many holds in master either
14:35 oleonard       Our 3.6.1 system in production isn't blocking holds after the item type limit has been reached
14:35 mtompset       Ooooo. perl is at 5.16. Has anyone tried Koha under 5.16?
14:31 mtompset       Unless there is code you'd like me to read. :)
14:30 mtompset       The only system I could test on is a 3.6.3 ;)
14:29 mtompset       hold limits?
14:23 oleonard       Are hold limits completely broken? They are in my tests
14:06 mtompset       We have a multi-cultural, multi-platform software development team. :)
14:03 mtompset       Trying to get it to run under Windows required an older python, because the libraries just weren't there for the MARC record format under the new ones a few months back.
14:02 mtompset       I had a data exporting routine written on a Mac.
14:02 mtompset       ^with^but with^
14:02 mtompset       And actually, I have encountered similar problems to what the wiki page describes with Python.
14:01 mtompset       true
14:00 oleonard       mtompset: One of the problems is that most people running Koha on Windows don't participate in the Koha community so any work they're doing (if any) is done in isolation
13:55 mtompset       Try not to have too much fun.
13:54 chris_n        off to a meeting
13:54 * chris_n      has pretty much lost the desire to work on the win32 stuff any longer
13:54 chris_n        although the strawberry maintainers have done a good amount of work to ensure the necessary modules are ported to strawberry for koha
13:53 chris_n        its the perl packages that are the most challenging aspect
13:53 chris_n        there are probably a half-dozen new deps since 3.4
13:52 chris_n        read and see :-)
13:52 mtompset       Why only 3.4?
13:51 chris_n        have fun
13:51 wahanui        win32 is, like, http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4
13:51 chris_n        win32?
13:51 chris_n        win32:
13:51 wahanui        OK, chris_n.
13:51 chris_n        wahanui: win32 is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4
13:50 mtompset       Yes, but the fun is in the journey, not the answer.
13:50 hdl            mtompset: you could ask chris_n who worked on a port to strawberry perl
13:49 mtompset       So many interesting ideas. So little time to try them all.
13:48 mtompset       Koha under Cygwin.
13:48 mtompset       That would be interesting to try....
13:48 mtompset       Hmm... it seems like Windows Folks aren't supporting Koha anymore.
13:44 oleonard       that's what I remember reading, that they were on Windows
13:43 mtompset       Actually, it would be 2.X if they were running under Windows. ;)
13:40 mtompset       cool, and there's a koha.nlp.gov.ph :)
13:38 oleonard       I can't remember where I saw information about the version those libraries are running
13:38 oleonard       http://web.nlp.gov.ph/nlp/?q=node/2300
13:37 sekjal         hi, mtompset
13:37 mtompset       Oh, and hi, sekjal.
13:36 mtompset       I had no idea who Norrie Tago MacIver was. I had to google it.
13:34 mtompset       And that was my introduction to Koha.
13:33 mtompset       So when the software solutions team said, "Hey! We've got a perl project that is backlogged 4+ years." I took it. :)
13:33 mtompset       I've been working in VB, VBA, and perl mostly for the last few years.
13:32 mtompset       I'm a software developer by profession.
13:32 mtompset       To be honest. I don't know.
13:32 mtompset       The library co-ordinator is hoping this project springboards other entities within our organization in other areas to use Koha too.
13:32 oleonard       I understand the Philippines has a lot of Koha installations but they're mostly 2.x ?
13:31 mtompset       The NGO I work with here in the Philippines has libraries throughout asia.
13:31 sekjal         hi, oleonard
13:31 oleonard       Hi sekjal
13:30 mtompset       Cool.
13:30 oleonard       I also do PHP and Drupal work for my library but I don't contribute to any other open source projects
13:29 oleonard       Mine was the first public library in the US to run Koha in production, so I've been involved with Koha development for a while now
13:29 mle            #kohacon12 \0/ Norrie "Tago" MacIver confirmed playing Wednesday night : )
13:29 mtompset       Is that the only thing you develop?
13:28 oleonard       Yup
13:28 mtompset       So you help find and fix bugs, so when they upgrade, your fixes are in there? :)
13:27 oleonard       So I don't do the upgrades
13:27 oleonard       My library runs Koha but it is managed by ByWater
13:27 mtompset       So why are you running Koha?
13:26 * oleonard     only manages his own Koha installation for development purposes and runs it off a git repo
13:26 mtompset       Have you ever done an upgrade?
13:23 mtompset       I'd obviously want to upgrade.
13:23 mtompset       Because let's say... 3.10 does get SAML 2.0 working.
13:23 * oleonard     is not an expert at upgrades
13:23 oleonard       Back up your database and follow the upgrade instructions in the INSTALL file I guess
13:23 mtompset       (like the way I avoided saying the name?)
13:23 mtompset       How do I upgrade the system?
13:22 mtompset       I know. I know. :)
13:22 oleonard       Koha is a word, not an acronym.
13:21 mtompset       Capitalization becomes a distinction. But anyways...
13:21 mtompset       I prefer Liblime Koha and KOHA. ;)
13:20 oleonard       Although Koha versus KOHA is a preference, not a trademarkable distinction :P
13:20 mtompset       How do I upgrade 3.6.3 to a newer version without losing data?
13:20 oleonard       Koha, not KOHA ;) Unless you're shouting enthusiastically.
13:20 mtompset       Okay... let's say I get the latest and greatest Ubuntu up and running KOHA...
13:17 oleonard       I have, but didn't get into it.
13:17 mtompset       Have you ever watched "The Big Bang Theory", oleonard? Your last name has me thinking of Leonard.
13:11 mtompset       Because I suspect there won't be any snowball errors under 12.04 as most of the libraries needed are listed and less need for CPAN.
13:10 mtompset       and bring the data over.
13:10 mtompset       But rather do a clean set up under 12.04
13:09 mtompset       However, given the various things I have learned while trying to shoe-horn koha in 8.4.4, I have enough data to convince my manager that we shouldn't just clone 10.4 to live.
13:09 mtompset       Still have snowball errors.
13:08 mtompset       Not perfectly.
13:08 mtompset       It's already up and running...
13:08 oleonard       mtompset: Does this mean you got Koha up and running successfully on a current OS and you're ready for more?
13:08 mtompset       crazy but workable!
13:08 mtompset       using a blackberry.
13:08 mtompset       It's like tethering your internet under Windows 2000. ;)
13:07 liw            it'll probably teach you a lot of why you want to run a more recent release of the OS ;-)
13:06 mtompset       Call it a bizarre sense of fun and educational too. :)
13:06 oleonard       mtompset: Why?
13:05 mtompset       It's after-hours and I am going to attempt to shoe-horn Koha onto Ubuntu 8.4.4 :)
13:04 mtompset       Neither am I... didn't know about all this side of Koha until recently. :)
13:04 Oak            :-| *sigh*
13:04 * oleonard     regrettably
13:04 oleonard       Nope
13:03 mtompset       Are you one of the attendees of KohaCon?
13:02 mtompset       Greetings, oleonard.
12:23 oleonard       Hi #koha
12:04 mtompset       It seems that the use of Modern Perl can disrupt that, if perl upgrades don't go well.
12:03 mtompset       I haven't checked out Debian, but Debian likely has similar upgrade cycles and LTS releases, correct?
12:01 hdl            hope the best for you
12:00 mtompset       I'll play with the perl upgrade idea though.
11:59 mtompset       Yes, but debian and ubuntu don't always place things in the same directory structure or do things the same way. If I use Ubuntu, I'd prefer to stick with Ubuntu packages.
11:58 mtompset       got to love bots.
11:58 mtompset       wahanui is hilarious.
11:58 wahanui        hdl: I forgot ubuntu
11:58 hdl            wahanui: forget ubuntu
11:57 wahanui        okay, hdl.
11:57 hdl            and ubuntu is also debian based
11:57 hdl            it is not pro-debian just for fun
11:56 hdl            mtompset: and it is.
11:55 mtompset       koha-community seems to be pro-Debian more than Ubuntu.
11:55 jwagner        slef, online?
11:54 mtompset       on Ubuntu?
11:53 hdl            mtompset: a whole bunch of CPAN install is what you would have avoided with koha-community packaging. you ought to test that on a test server.
11:49 mtompset       Particularly after having done a whole bunch of CPAN installs?
11:49 mtompset       I've never done it before. Is it safe?
11:49 hdl            what is the problem with perl upgrade and libmodern-perl-perl install ?
11:47 mtompset       this means many...
11:46 mtompset       Yep... this many people who though they wouldn't need to upgrade their Ubuntu installs may decide to jump to 12.04 3 years earlier then they hoped.
11:44 mtompset       Ubuntu 10.04 I believe has Perl 5.10 -- I'll check shortly.
11:44 mtompset       In the near future--sometime around September 2012--this module may drop support for 5.10 and will complain (once per process) if you use a year too old. As of May 2012, Perl 5.12 is unsupported by the Perl 5 Porters, so please consider upgrading.
11:43 mtompset       And worse yet....
11:42 mtompset       Yes, but Ubuntu 8.04.04 which is supported until next year can't run KOHA unless I upgrade the perl from the default 5.8.8 installation. :P
11:42 hdl            (for production grade applications I mean)
11:42 hdl            mtompset: becaus it is cool, and is the actual PERL standard.
11:41 mtompset       : : Perl
11:41 mtompset       Was there a reason various modules use Modern::Perl?
11:39 mtompset       good day (24 hour period -- it's evening here)
11:39 jwagner        good morning
11:35 mtompset       Hello, #koha channel.
11:13 WaqarAzeem     Hello Everyone ...
10:16 Oak            \o
09:50 mtompset       Hello, zioha.
09:41 samuel         Can CAS authentication be used with the Staff Client?
09:31 samuel         cait-m:good travel!
09:20 cait-m_        boarding time :-)
08:53 samuel         sound good :-)
08:52 hdl            (sgdg)
08:52 hdl            samuel: /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs
08:50 cait-m_        35mins till biarding...
08:50 samuel         i don't find koha-tmpl
08:49 matts          hmm, yes, production mode might be different
08:48 hdl            matts: on standard install, iirc you are wrong.
08:48 hdl            matts: in a dev install you are right
08:47 matts          (ie : in koha-tmpl)
08:47 matts          at the root of the pub dir ?
08:47 cait-m_        it might have instructions too
08:46 cait-m_        not sure about the directory
08:46 cait-m_        i think there is an example file in koha
08:46 samuel         question : i want to put a file "robots.txt "(User-agent: * Disallow: /)  on koha  but i don't know where i can put it.
08:44 cait-m_        hi samuel
08:44 cait-m_        bit disappointed, no free wifi in zurich
08:44 samuel         hi everybody!
08:42 cait-m_        hi hdl
08:41 matts          hi hdl !
08:41 cait-m_        hm cant read schedules today - 15 55 is edi
08:41 matts          no, they're coming from marseille through paris... And i'm coming from strasbourg
08:40 cait-m_        you are not travelling with the rest of the biblibre crowd?
08:40 matts          You'll arrive when i'll leave :)
08:40 cait-m_        18 30 in edinburgh
08:39 cait-m_        oh
08:38 matts          so it's not the same plane :)
08:38 matts          lol
08:38 cait-m_        hmm 15 55?
08:38 matts          yeah ! It's the one that arrives at 21:30 right ?
08:38 cait-m_        lucky coincidence
08:37 cait-m_        we have the same plane to edi :-)
08:37 hdl            hi matts
08:37 matts          oh, cait-m_ , you're flying via amsterdam ? Me too :)
08:36 matts          hi cait-m_ :)
08:35 cait-m_        magnuse++
08:34 cait-m_        noone here? :-)
08:28 cait-m_        hi all
07:01 gaetan_B       hello :)
07:00 reiveune       hello
06:25 mib_4tfrlb     hallo
06:23 nikhil         hallo
03:18 mtompset       Greetings #koha channel folk. :)
00:19 * jcamins_away peeks in.