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23:36 jcamins Heh.
23:35 eythian I fear my arms are going to be killing me later today, 2 solid hours of sword work when I haven't really done it in a few weeks is pretty hard on them.
23:28 eythian heh
23:28 jcamins It only took an entire day!
23:28 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded.
23:28 jcamins @later tell chris_n My new release-tool.pl script has been pushed to github.
23:27 eythian awesome
23:27 eythian jcamins: So far I've biked across town, done 2 hours of seishinkan training, biked half way back, now I'm going to work on my presentation for a bit once I've cooled down :)
23:26 jcamins I think I got my apt repo working finally. :)
23:26 jcamins Shouldn't you be off doing something fun?
23:26 eythian hi
22:04 libsysguy man dbix has sure changed since i used it a few years ago
21:30 jcamins Oh. It was stale packages.
21:29 jcamins Why doesn't it like 3.6-testing? It was fine with squeeze-dev and 3.6.x.
21:28 rangi bbl
21:28 rangi ok swimming lessons
21:27 jcamins Okay, it doesn't like 3.6-testing.
21:26 rangi hmm i need to come up with a new whakatauki (proverb) for the release notes too
21:26 rangi ill fix that
21:26 rangi must be permissions
21:26 * jcamins is trying to automate deploying his packages to his apt repo.
21:26 rangi cool
21:26 jcamins chris_n uploaded it.
21:25 rangi oh you cant put it on download?
21:25 jcamins ... and deploy failed.
21:25 rangi now ill have to run more stats
21:25 rangi jcamins++
21:23 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded.
21:23 rangi @later tell slef andrewc from my work made that, and i think the song was nc hence the video is, but i will check on monday, however in here https://gitorious.org/chrisc_presentations/chrisc_presentations/trees/master/vala_2012_aleksa/ui/default/videos there are videos of 3.4 and 3.6 you can use in the meantime
21:21 rangi slef: https://gitorious.org/chrisc_presentations/chrisc_presentations/trees/master/vala_2012_aleksa/ui/default/videos
21:21 cait morning rangi :)
21:19 rangi lemme get the url
21:19 rangi slef: in the meantime if have some movies of the 3.4 and 3.6 releases you can use
21:18 rangi slef: andrew from my work made that, and i think it might be nc because of the song, however i will check on monday
21:18 cait :)
21:17 jcamins :)
21:17 jcamins And I figured GND would already have a field because the DNB is sensible like that.
21:15 jcamins I figured if GND already has a field, we might as well use it.
21:15 jcamins I thought that might be the case.
21:14 jcamins :)
21:14 cait 079 $b is used
21:14 cait jcamins: I think you were right
21:13 datadoctor Best of luck with all your projects - and picnics!
21:13 datadoctor :) Must go home now. See y'all next week.
21:13 jcamins :)
21:13 jcamins Good question!
21:13 jcamins Wondering why we're still working?
21:12 datadoctor I'm having an end-of-day issue.
21:11 jcamins Among other issues, name/title authorities can't be identified.
21:11 jcamins Yes, but it's not a very good indicator. :(
21:11 cait I think that's how the import scripts work?
21:10 cait isn't the used 1xx field an indicator?
21:10 cait hm
21:10 jcamins We were talking about maybe using LDR/18, since that's not in use.
21:09 jcamins Authority.
21:09 cait in the marc bibliographic or in the marc authority record?
21:09 cait quite sure it's in there
21:09 cait ah
21:09 jcamins I thought that GND might have something like that.
21:08 jcamins chris_n and I were discussing how we really need some sort of indication in the MARC record what type of authority we're dealing with.
21:07 jcamins It's hard because I can't read German.
21:07 jcamins http://www.dnb.de/DE/Standardisierung/Normdaten/GND/gnd_node.html;
21:06 cait have you a link or something?
21:06 cait but might take a moment :)
21:06 cait Iam sure I can find out
21:06 cait hm
21:06 jcamins I can't figure out what exactly is in it. Is it like authority type?
21:06 jcamins In particular, the 079 field.
21:05 jcamins Yes.
21:05 cait gnd?
21:05 jcamins o/
20:43 * jcamins reads about GND.
20:40 jcamins datadoctor: yeah, that worked, but it took me a bit to find it.
20:39 sekjal happy weekend, #koha (and happy long weekend to those of you getting one)!
20:39 datadoctor Or is that just for the current working directory?
20:39 datadoctor Would getcwd(); work?
20:32 drojf :)
20:32 cait-m but not far from home now
20:32 drojf uh
20:32 cait-m around 8 hours
20:31 drojf hi cait-m, not home yet? long journeyâ€¦
20:28 mbalmer back from dinner...
20:27 cait-m but on bus home now
20:27 cait-m travelling :-)
20:26 chris_n chasing internet connectivity today? :-)
20:26 cait-m :-)
20:26 jcamins Hi cait-m!
20:26 chris_n hi cait-m
20:26 cait-m hi all
20:23 datadoctor .
20:23 datadoctor :)
20:23 jcamins Since '.' means "the current directory," it didn't occur to me that Perl would consider that a useful response to my calling curdir() to get the current directory.
20:22 datadoctor I see.
20:22 jcamins datadoctor: it's Perl being weird.
20:22 datadoctor Is it a bash configuration issue? Or just a fact of Linux?
20:21 jcamins datadoctor: I maintain that when I ask for the current directory, "." is not helpful.
20:20 datadoctor Where are your relative paths leading you?
20:20 jcamins And my otherwise warning-free script has been complaining.
20:20 jcamins I've been carefully doing chdir('.') prior to trying to delete the temporary directory.
20:19 * jcamins grumbles angrily about relative paths.
20:19 datadoctor My mind has been expanded.
20:18 jcamins :)
20:18 datadoctor In between the year's first dip in the lake, and a family picnic.
20:18 jcamins ^^ at the end of the page is a reading list by yours truly.
20:18 wahanui well, git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
20:18 jcamins git?
20:17 datadoctor Luckily I have a three-day weekend to read up on this!
20:17 jcamins datadoctor: see, very easy.
20:16 libsysguy heh
20:16 jcamins libsysguy: if there's an error then someone failed to test their branch prior to pushing.
20:16 datadoctor http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
20:16 libsysguy does jenkins just go back to the latest success
20:15 libsysguy what if there is an error
20:15 datadoctor [consults ProGit manual] ...thinking...
20:15 jcamins Sadly building the packages does take a bit.
20:15 chris_n instant deb++
20:15 libsysguy like a master install button
20:15 jcamins chris_n: that would be *so cool*.
20:15 libsysguy ^^
20:14 chris_n that would be very nice
20:14 chris_n like the "snapshot" link
20:14 chris_n jcamins: we should add that as a clickable link to gitweb
20:14 datadoctor I'm confused...
20:14 datadoctor So that would generate the git branch from my installation?
20:13 datadoctor Ok...
20:13 jcamins Basically once you have a git branch that looks exactly like what you want, you run debian/build-git-snapshot, and wait.
20:13 * libsysguy loves new hardware
20:13 datadoctor We've got a new server coming our way.
20:13 jcamins datadoctor: packages are easy.
20:13 libsysguy chris_n++
20:13 libsysguy or you're just getting some
20:13 chris_n libsysguy: indeed I did :-)
20:13 libsysguy but you need new hardware
20:12 datadoctor We will be going from 3.5 to 3.8.
20:12 libsysguy i thought i saw earlier where chris_n upgraded from a 3.2 branch
20:12 libsysguy whoaâ€¦well i guess it could be worse
20:12 datadoctor We currently work from a 3.5 branch that we checked out last year.
20:12 libsysguy heh i thought I was about to have my mind blown
20:11 datadoctor Not me!
20:11 libsysguy you can do that?
20:10 datadoctor I'm still trying to wrap my mind around installing from packages, but committing changes to a git branch.
20:08 jcamins (that you should try to get your changes into Koha proper)
20:08 datadoctor !!!
20:08 jcamins datadoctor: yeah, that's what I was just about to say.
20:08 datadoctor This time around I hope to feed some of our improvements back to the community.
20:07 datadoctor ...and that's when all the custom code requests start pouring in...
20:06 datadoctor That will happen later this Summer.
20:06 datadoctor Oh well, we are upgrading our server hardware before we can even begin to think about upgrading to 3.8.x
20:05 datadoctor Must wait to unwrap the packages...:(
20:04 jcamins datadoctor: well, we haven't quite reached deploying them to an apt repo yet, but it's a start.
20:03 datadoctor Glad to hear you got your packages!
19:58 * jcamins is mollified.
19:57 jcamins :)
19:57 * chris_n whips out the dark-chocolate fudge and places it before jcamins
19:54 * jcamins is a cataloger. FEAR ME!
19:54 jcamins Heh.
19:53 chris_n its the wrath of the catalogers I worry about
19:53 chris_n while the librarians are away it will play
19:52 chris_n woot!
19:51 jcamins The package building now appears to work!
19:51 jcamins Woohoo!
19:51 jcamins Heh.
19:50 wizzyrea that was interesting
19:50 * wizzyrea took a quick detour through the innards of chrome
19:50 wizzyrea http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=25454
19:50 wizzyrea ohhh it's a chrome for mac bug - it's not really using that much
19:48 wizzyrea no
19:48 * wizzyrea sobs
19:48 jcamins wizzyrea: do you *really* want to ask yourself that question?
19:48 * wizzyrea casually wonders why a gmail tab takes 64MB of memory
19:46 * chris_n looks toward slef
19:45 wizzyrea oh boy.
19:45 chris_n ok, if you're in the UK: you'll have to opt-in before touching the cookies ;-)
19:45 * wizzyrea likes the NZ "slice"
19:45 wizzyrea or something
19:45 wahanui biscuits are almost done.
19:45 wizzyrea biscuits
19:45 chris_n hmmm... is that legal in the UK?
19:45 wizzyrea must feel awesome to have it done
19:44 * chris_n passes out cookies
19:44 wizzyrea I know that's been a huge project for ya
19:44 wizzyrea omgosh chris_n, congratulations
18:54 chris_n I'll do my best to keep up this time :-)
18:53 jcamins Yay!
18:53 chris_n yup, thanks to many rehearsals, the db upgraded with only two non-important errors
18:53 chris_n all the librarians are on vacation... ehehehe
18:53 jcamins Whoah!
18:52 chris_n and upgrades his production box from post 3.2.x master to 3.8.x
18:52 * chris_n takes the nestea plunge
18:43 jcamins Since it takes *ages*, that gave me plenty of time for POD writing.
18:43 datadoctor ;)
18:42 jcamins But I wrote the POD while waiting for the task to run.
18:42 jcamins chris_n: well, I did most of the coding first.
18:42 jcamins chris_n: yes.
18:42 chris_n jcamins: did you write the perdoc first? ;-)
18:40 * jcamins discovers that chdir is not scope-sensitive in any way.
18:39 datadoctor jcamins: Thanks! I'm still learning about the development process...
18:39 jcamins Yes.
18:38 datadoctor jcamins: I used CPAN to pull my PERL updates on the last install. Does a package install take care of the PERL?
18:36 jcamins datadoctor: you merge whichever branches you want to have in your package, then you create the package.
18:35 datadoctor jcamins: Well, I guess that makes sense - you would not be merging branches, just generating from what you have checked out.
18:34 jcamins datadoctor: what do you mean? You can only have one branch checked out at a time.
18:34 datadoctor jacamins I like the idea of installing from the packages. I am used to doing it from git. If there are many git branches active is it hard to generate the packages?
18:28 liw possibly :)
18:27 jcamins Yeah, but you're having a lot more fun, I bet!
18:27 * liw is not of much help while he's touring the Italian countryside looking at medieval city centres and earthquake damage
18:26 liw jcamins, :)
18:26 jcamins "Just an e-mail address" is the answer. ;)
18:25 jcamins liw: that's okay, I wanted to ask you what went into DEBEMAIL to make dch not throw a fit and die.
18:25 * liw knows no perl :)
18:25 jcamins datadoctor: that's why I use the packages.
18:25 jcamins :)
18:25 jcamins I was using DEBEMAIL correctly.
18:25 jcamins liw: it turned out the problem was that Perl doesn't auto-chomp `shell commands`.
18:24 datadoctor Because some modules depended on other modules that installed later in the script.\
18:23 liw jcamins, I'm here now
18:23 datadoctor They had dependencies that required us to rerun the installation scripts over and over again.
18:22 datadoctor Our main issue with installation was PERL updates.
18:20 libsysguy thanks jcamins
18:20 libsysguy doh
18:20 jcamins git checkout folder
18:20 libsysguy but i was wrong-ish
18:20 libsysguy i thought it was reset
18:20 libsysguy sorry to butt in but I have a quick question, i deleted a folderâ€¦what is the git command to get it back
18:20 jcamins datadoctor: I already have a bash script that does this stuff, but it was getting unwieldy.
18:17 jcamins I'm also working on getting it to manage packages, as well.
18:17 jcamins With the script, it can be automated.
18:17 jcamins datadoctor: every time I make a change on 3.6.x, I run forty-five minutes worth of tasks.
18:16 jcamins datadoctor: basically.
18:16 datadoctor What is the main advantage of using the tool - saving time on manual commands?
18:16 datadoctor bon nuit!
18:15 jcamins datadoctor: now I just have to make it work...
18:15 Oak jcamins++
18:15 Oak night.
18:15 Oak me go sleep now.
18:15 datadoctor jcamins: very interesting
18:14 Oak :)
18:14 jcamins ^^ if anyone is wondering what I'm doing
18:13 pastebot "jcamins" at 24.193.130.86 pasted "perldoc release-tool.pl" (79 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/412
18:04 huginn` slef: The operation succeeded.
18:04 slef @later tell rangi can we have permission to print 10 years in 10 mins on our banner for kohacon12 please? And why is it labelled CC-NC not GPLv2? (derived from Koha)
17:54 wizzyrea 8:43 is pretty awesome in that
17:50 wizzyrea just ask rangi
17:50 wizzyrea I bet you could get *permission* to use it though
17:49 wizzyrea anyway.
17:49 wizzyrea hm wonder why NC
17:47 slef trying to print it... I've been told the youtube is marked as CC-BY-NC-SA... if it is, then I can't use it (we're commercial) but isn't it a derived work of the Koha code so should be GPLv2?
17:44 wizzyrea it goes up to 720p
17:44 wizzyrea I think the youtube version is pretty high res
17:41 slef Does anyone here have a high-resolution copy of 10 years in 10 minutes? I'd like a "screenshot" of a well-developed Koha structure
17:18 libsysguy but it is really robust
17:18 libsysguy so everybody hates on it
17:18 libsysguy heh its just big
17:18 * jcamins doesn't know anything about it, but has no objections.
17:17 libsysguy thoughts on date::manip on calendar manipulation pages?
17:13 jcamins We're getting there, though. It waits until running the webinstaller to die.
17:13 * jcamins runs it again.
16:49 chris_n gotta love animal cookies
16:49 * chris_n bites the head off of a rhinoceros
16:44 wizzyrea so easy to grasp what's changed.
16:44 wizzyrea love how those notes come out
16:44 wizzyrea chris_n++ for starting those lovely release tools.
16:42 jcamins There sure is.
16:41 wizzyrea community++
16:41 wizzyrea golly there's a lot of stuff in 3.6.5. jcamins++
16:40 wizzyrea sure, getting your perms in order now
16:39 jcamins Thanks!
16:38 jcamins Yup.
16:38 wizzyrea jcamins: your post has been published - I hope you were ready?
16:37 jcamins Oh, I see. I don't use connect.
16:37 * cait waves
16:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8156 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, NEW , allow users to put things in lists that are not in the catalog (free text entries to lists)
16:36 wizzyrea bug 8156
16:36 chris_n no problem following that path...
16:36 chris_n lol
16:36 mbalmer but since <food> is on the <table>, I have to bail out for dinner ;)
16:35 chris_n unit tests should play some relaxing music while they ar running
16:35 jcamins Okay, I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out how one creates a database using DBI.
16:35 mbalmer <table>_<column> is just a convention, whereas <table>.<column> is a syntactically correct, unambigous reference.
16:34 * chris_n hands jcamins a pillow
16:34 mbalmer I do think that <table>.<column> leaves almost no questions about what is being referred to.
16:34 chris_n but if you have table.id that probably covers most of what foo_id does as well
16:33 * jcamins yawns. How many times do I have to run the unit tests?
16:33 chris_n I do think that foo_id is a bit more informative than just 'id'
16:33 sekjal but I think the purpose of this discussion is more for naming conventions to ease ongoing maintenance, and lower the learning curve to understanding Koha's data structure
16:33 chris_n try being vague with your directory path or xml path or...
16:33 jcamins chris_n: just my own.
16:32 mbalmer I wouldn't object #4 either. but being explicit is never a mistake, imo.
16:32 chris_n :-)
16:32 chris_n jcamins: what code are you looking at?
16:32 sekjal chris_n: agreed, that's how we should reference the columns, for minimal ambiguity
16:32 jcamins chris_n: don't we do that anyway?
16:32 chris_n but would settle for #4
16:32 * chris_n is of mbalmer's opinion that we really ought to use table.column
16:28 * wizzyrea meant to file a bug, didn't. Will now.
16:27 wizzyrea ah right, user entered titles that link to searches
16:26 wahanui well, logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
16:26 wizzyrea logs?
16:26 wizzyrea what was that thing we were talking about yesterday, something to do with lists...
16:26 mbalmer but paul is right to bring the subject up, we should settle with one form.
16:26 mbalmer yes. and a little bit no ;)
16:25 jcamins mbalmer: consistency is always a good thing. It will make using DBI::Class that much easier.
16:25 wizzyrea ASUSunDevil: not that I'm aware of
16:25 mbalmer interesting discussion about naming of primary keys on the ml
16:24 wahanui i heard evening was better for me - but not too late
16:24 mbalmer evening.
16:24 ASUSunDevil Is there a pdf of the current version of the 3.8 manual available?
15:59 oleonard Have a good weekend everyone
15:59 * oleonard cuts out early
15:58 libsysguy would it be so criminal to introduce Date::Manip in one module
15:57 jcamins liw: around?
15:55 jcamins Now I just have to wait for this package build to finish so I can try again...
15:55 jcamins Ha! I think I figured it out.
15:51 jcamins Bother. My Perl release-tool script blows up just before building the packages, but if I run the command manually, it works fine.
15:50 * slef looks at his next appointment
15:50 slef damn I've got to try to figure out parsing $cookie just before it is sent to the browser :(
15:50 slef oleonard: cool. So it needs a warning by the language selector, or a popup.
15:49 oleonard sekjal: And that's the small version!
15:48 sekjal oleonard: 7747 is pretty large... taking me a bit of time to review....
15:47 oleonard slef: The KohaOpacLanguage cookie doesn't seem to be set by default
15:41 slef oleonard: hmmm. Is that only set if you switch language?
15:41 slef oleonard: yes, storing those numbers in the session database (usually database)
15:40 jcamins C is for cookie, that's good enough for me!
15:36 oleonard slef: I also see a KohaOpacLanguage cookie in my browser
15:36 jcamins chris_n: that is correct.
15:35 chris_n MARC::File::XML includes $a,n,p in that
15:35 oleonard the session cookie contains a string that matches an entry in the database. The cart cookie is just a long string of biblionumbers. If you wanted to have the cart "use the session cookie" I think you'd be talking about storing those biblionumbers in the database instead?
15:34 chris_n is 254$b really not part of the "title proper"?
15:33 slef oleonard: not saying it would. Just not sure why it wouldn't :)
15:25 oleonard slef I'm not sure how that would work, the cart using the session.
15:24 wahanui thanks cait_train :)
15:24 cait_train wahanui botsnack ampelmÃ¤nnchen
15:24 cait_train ts slef
15:23 wahanui errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit!
15:23 slef wahanui: die!
15:23 wahanui slef: sorry...
15:23 slef wahanui: true
15:23 wahanui slef: huh?
15:23 slef wahanui: close enough
15:23 wahanui JOOI is probably Just Out Of Interest
15:23 slef wahanui: JOOI?
15:23 slef JOOI is Just Out Of Interest
15:22 oleonard JOOI?
15:22 slef And why doesn't the cart use the session JOOI?
15:22 slef Any others I may have missed?
15:21 slef I think I'll need to exempt the other cookie from the deletion.
15:21 * oleonard agrees on the spying issue for sure
15:21 slef EU web users are sick of website operators trying to spy on them. That's why we have the law. But the industry has been in denial since 2000 or 2002 or some such, and not fixed the infringements, so now the UK has given it teeth.
15:20 cait_train :)
15:20 oleonard Another cookie.
15:20 slef I'll go test it
15:20 slef in the session or another cookie?
15:20 oleonard slef: It's not connected to the user's identity. It just stores biblionumbers in the cookie.
15:19 oleonard slef: Yes, the cart works independently of login
15:19 slef oleonard: and my understanding is that the cart is exempt because it is strictly necessary when it is set... but do we have carts if the user is not logged in?
15:19 oleonard EU web users are going to get sick of those notices.
15:18 slef oleonard: Yes. Damn, yes.
15:17 jcamins If it manages to get through the entire release test successfully, I'll add deploying to the tool's repertoire. :)
15:17 * libsysguy tries to burn yui in his proof of concept
15:16 * jcamins tests release-tool.pl
15:15 sekjal hi, cait_train
15:14 libsysguy hi cait_train
15:14 cait_train hi sekjal and libsysguy
15:14 cait_train :)
15:13 oleonard slef: The note about cookies on the login page, is that required by law now? Is it a problem that the same note doesn't appear with the login form on the OPAC home page?
15:12 * libsysguy grabs shepards hook
15:12 * sekjal enters from stage left
15:11 sekjal did somebody say "QA"?
15:11 cait_train bye Joubu :)
15:11 Joubu bye o/
15:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7747 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Replace YUI autocomplete with jQueryUI
15:11 oleonard It depends on Bug 7747, hopefully a kind QA-er will QA that one :)
15:10 cait_train yay
15:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8143 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Upgrade jQuery tabs to current jQueryUI version
15:09 * oleonard thinks he has Bug 8143 completed for the staff client
15:06 oleonard bye reiveune
15:06 reiveune bye
15:06 oleonard slef: The cart also requires cookies. Should that be addressed in your patch?
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7886 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , C4/ShelfBrowser slow SQL performance
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7766 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , C4/Auth.pm emits debug output to STDOUT
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7885 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Change filename of TransferLog suggested by packages to fit with logrotate
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7585 minor, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Stable , Correct MARC 008 Value Builder Char 06 Default
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7575 minor, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Pushed to Stable , Printing opac search results truncation in ie7/8
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7579 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Icons for authorized values/item types not showing in OPAC
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7558 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Serial issue note doubled up in full history
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3916 critical, P2, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Batch Modify tool overwrites dropdown fields - no option for "no change"
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7460 minor, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , nl2br in opac Title notes tab
15:02 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Update version for 3.6.5
15:02 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Release Notes for 3.06.05.000 24 May 2012 12:55:26 Z
15:02 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Koha 3.6.5 Translation Update
15:02 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7886 follow-up DBRev number
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7454 major, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Sip renewal all response returns incorrect info
15:02 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7886 - C4/ShelfBrowser slow SQL performance
15:02 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Stop unnecessary warnings in get_language
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5373 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , fields listed on patron import do not match the csv file
15:02 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7766 - C4/Auth.pm: emit DEBUG output to STDERR
15:02 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7885 - Change filename of TransferLog suggested by packages to fit with logrotate
15:02 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7585 - Correct MARC 008 Value Builder Char 06 Default
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7513 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , MARC Import Hangs
15:02 jenkins_koha * chrish: Bug 7575 Opac search results print alignment
15:02 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7579 - Icons for authorized values/item types not showing in OPAC
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7540 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Add ids to the legend elements to make it easier to tweak with javascript
15:02 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7453 Followup for borrower without expiry date
15:02 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7558: Serial issue note doubled up in full history
15:02 jenkins_koha * sophie.meynieux: Bug 3916 [follow-up] : Adding a default choice in every dropdown list, not only branches, to let the corresponding value unchanged
15:02 jenkins_koha * stephane.delaune: Bug 7460: followup : Add template toolkit's FILTER html_line_break on staff details description's tab
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5543 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Date ISO format wrong separator
15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7272 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Stable , Fix for Bug 6328 causes user accounts to be frozen (SIP2)
15:02 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 7454 Initialize return arrays in ILS/Transaction/RenewAll
15:02 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 5373 - allow 'cardnumber' to appear on the patron import field list
15:02 jenkins_koha * dev_patches: Bug 7513 Marc Import Hangs
15:02 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_7231: Call GetMarcPrice() in acqui/neworderempty.pl for staged imports
15:02 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 7540 [3.6.x] - add id values to the legends in the patron entry form
15:02 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 5543 - Date ISO format wrong separator
15:02 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7272 setting NULL to debarred field, to avoid having 0000-00-00
15:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #48: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/48/
14:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8155 critical, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Comply with UK Electronic Commerce (EC Directive) Regulations 2002
14:57 slef anyone available to review and maybe signoff bug 8155, please?
14:36 jcamins :)
14:36 jcamins Thanks!
14:36 wizzyrea and then I"ll just give you rights to post straight away
14:36 wizzyrea it*
14:36 wizzyrea jcamins - meeting then I"m on i
14:34 chris_n oleonard: depends on who you ask ;-)
14:34 * chris_n thinks the author name alphabetizer was the nicest part of the release-notes script :-)
14:33 oleonard "Post-human Release Maintainer?"
14:33 jcamins chris_n: nope.
14:32 * chris_n almost read "Post Humus Release Maintainer" :-)
14:26 jcamins wizzyrea: please review my 3.6.5 release post. :)
14:23 jcamins Okay, that makes sense I guess.
14:23 chris_n its a repo thing rather than a branch thing I think
14:22 chris_n the tag goes to the origin rather than to the branch
14:22 jcamins chris_n++
14:22 jcamins Yup, thanks.
14:21 chris_n iirc
14:21 chris_n git push --tag origin
14:21 chris_n ahh
14:21 jcamins git tag -s v3.06.05 && git push kc-rmaint 3.6.x
14:20 chris_n lemme check perms
14:20 chris_n hehe
14:20 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
14:20 chris_n first question?
14:20 jcamins It's in my repository, but pushing the branch to to git.k-c.org doesn't create it.
14:20 chris_n jcamins: what did you do?
14:20 wahanui it has been said that help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help.
14:20 jcamins chris_n: help?
14:19 jcamins I don't.
14:19 cait_train jcamins++
14:19 jcamins Does anyone see the tag?
14:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #48 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:15 jcamins I forgot to create the tag.
14:15 jcamins Wait.
14:13 jcamins Well, it's done.
14:10 chris_n jcamins++
14:03 * jcamins pokes at TAP::Harness.
14:03 cait hi drojf :)
13:59 drojf good day #koha
13:52 cait can't decide, happy it's possible but could be more reliable
13:52 cait internet_on_trains-- / internet_on_trains++
13:51 jcamins cable_internet--
13:44 Oak chris_n, :) thank you thank you!
13:44 chris_n Oak++ # very nice opac
13:43 chris_n hi cait
13:42 cait jcamins++ chris_n++
13:42 cait :)
13:42 jcamins :)
13:41 chris_n jcamins: will work for fudge ;-)
13:40 Oak :)
13:40 Oak coool
13:40 jcamins The 3.6.5 build passed without any problems, so the branches just need to be pushed on up, and chris_n has to be shanghai-d into uploading the tarball.
13:40 Oak now tell us
13:40 Oak jcamins++
13:40 Oak he must have done something good so
13:39 jcamins WOOHOO!
13:39 Oak :)
13:39 cait don't be quiet Oak
13:38 Oak okay me quiet now. you and oleonard were talking... sorry/
13:37 Oak that was a smiley
13:37 Oak uh oh
13:37 Oak hmm. it's okay cait... one time you were on train so that did not count :0
13:37 cait I especially like your footer
13:36 cait Oak: I am sorry, have not been around much this week :(
13:36 Oak thank you!
13:36 Oak it's not finished yet... still working on it :)
13:36 Oak i asked you 3 or 4 times to look at it but you did not :-|
13:36 cait it is nice :)
13:36 Oak finally
13:36 cait hi Oak :) trying to look at your opac, but not sure internet connectoin will permit it
13:35 cait oleonard: bibliothekartag (= library congress?) in hamburg
13:35 Oak thank you!
13:35 Oak :)
13:35 oleonard Looks nice Oak!
13:35 Oak still working on it though
13:35 Oak oleonard, see my OPAC: http://koha-library.uaar.edu.pk/
13:35 oleonard What have you been up to cait?
13:34 cait hi oleonard :)
13:34 Oak kia ora #koha
13:34 oleonard Hi cait
13:34 cait hi #koha
13:26 jcamins And rewriting his release script in Perl.
13:25 * jcamins is currently preparing 3.6.5.
13:25 jcamins Drat. I forgot that I have to enter my GPG fifty gazillion times for the current script. I hope it wasn't waiting too long.
12:37 Amit_Gupta heya gaetan
12:29 oleonard Hi everyone
12:27 francharb hi!
12:23 jcamins paul_p: never mind. I figured out how to apply the translation! :D
12:23 NateC Morning Amit_Gupta!
12:22 Amit_Gupta heya NateC
12:09 jcamins_away paul_p: around?
12:09 jcamins_away fredericd++
12:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6810 enhancement, P4, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Send membership expiry reminder notices
12:08 Amit_Gupta bug 6810
12:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5795 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer
12:08 Amit_Gupta bug 5795
12:05 magnuse WaqarAzeem: better than what? :-)
12:02 WaqarAzeem hello! how can i configure the developement environment for koha ... plz guide me any url that have some better discription ...
11:22 slef anyone available to review and maybe signoff, please?
11:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8155 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Comply with UK Electronic Commerce (EC Directive) Regulations 2002
11:22 slef Changes submitted for bug 8155
11:14 vkm i have 15000 reocords and users are 1000 not to much circulation but begin of academic and end of academic lot of transaction 40 books per day average transaction
11:12 wahanui wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org
11:12 slef wahanui: wiki
11:12 wahanui sysprefs are "System Preferences", found on my Koha admin homepage
11:12 slef wahanui: sysprefs?
11:11 slef vkm: once you meet ubuntu's hardware requirements, it really depends on your database size and user demands
11:07 vkm and also we can circulate book faster
11:05 vkm ok i will chek alternatively please let me know the better hardware requirment if i will install it on PC so that people can search fast my catalog on network
11:04 slef though
11:03 slef Been a bit busy thought
11:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8155 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Comply with UK Electronic Commerce (EC Directive) Regulations 2002
11:03 slef I really should have sent our fix for bug 8155 upstream before now.
11:03 slef vkm: try it and see? What could you lose?
10:59 vkm please let me know i have IBM server 3550M3 can i install koha live CD on it having ubuntu linux
10:58 vkm hello
10:11 Oak magnuse, what are you doing right now?
10:11 Oak kia ora #koha
10:10 kouider are there koha dvd live debian
10:07 raju in Koha 3.6 claim mail is not sent for serial claim
09:58 kouider i insall all modules cpan
09:57 raju Any solution: enable serial claim mail
09:56 kouider 1613 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koh
09:56 kouider yes its same 1613
09:55 slef more reliably, you can "ps $(pgrep zebrasrv)" and it will figure out the numbers itself
09:55 slef raju: you would need to "ps 1033 27449" from what you said
09:51 kouider Thanks I hope a God to help you in all your business
09:50 raju ps 1613 : PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
09:49 slef If there is only one that starts daemon, it probably means zebrasrv is failing. Check log files to find the error.
09:48 slef I would expect two numbers, like raju has.
09:47 slef or one that starts "daemon ..."
09:47 slef if you now type "ps 1613" kouider, you should see a line that says zebrasrv and some other things
09:47 slef pgrep shows you the process number of that program
09:46 slef So I am not fast here.
09:46 slef I don't mean I won't help you. I just have to work on other things too, to earn money to live.
09:46 slef If you get any number, it means zebra is running
09:46 slef I mean
09:46 slef sorry
09:46 slef no
09:43 kouider help me
09:41 kouider oh allah what i do to work zebra
09:40 raju its not showing 1613
09:40 kouider what about 1613 its not work
09:38 kouider give me 1613
09:37 raju it shows 1033 27449
09:37 raju 1033 27449
09:35 slef kouider: pgrep zebrasrv <-- that will show if the server is running
09:35 kouider Is there a line I do in Terminal to find out that Zebra is working or not
09:34 slef time
09:34 slef raju: it shows in the cron log entries? Does it show in the mail.log or exim4/mainlog?
09:34 raju yes its showing in log file
09:33 slef raju: I think you should check if the serial claim notices are being generated. I can't remember exactly how to do that (probably a cron job and a table in the mysql database) and I do not have free time now.
09:33 kouider ok idont install Other packages on this wiki
09:32 raju koha@opac://usr/share/koha/opac$ pgrep zebrasrv 1033 27449
09:31 slef kouider: pgrep zebrasrv <-- that will show if the server is running
09:31 kouider give the commends to knowing are zebra work or not
09:31 raju some other mails are going except serial claim notice
09:31 slef raju: can the server send any emails?
09:31 wahanui hmmm... packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
09:31 kouider what packages
09:29 raju no
09:29 slef raju: are you using the packages?
09:29 kouider but i insall koha like install on ubuntu
09:29 raju Serial claim email notice not sending
09:29 slef But maybe you can use it without harm, but yes, koha-zebraqueue-daemon is probably missing LSB details. koha-zebra-daemon should not be.
09:29 kouider any one
09:28 slef What told you to use koha-zebraqueue-daemon?
09:28 slef Use the crontab instead.
09:28 slef It's deprecated/awaiting-repair
09:27 slef don't use koha-zebraqueue-daemon - I think I am right to say that.
09:27 slef oh wait
09:27 kouider i use debian 6.04 koha 3.8.1
09:26 slef kouider: I thought we fixed that ages ago. What version of koha are you using?
09:16 kouider i have insserv: warning: script 'koha-zebraqueue-daemon' missing LSB tags and overrides
09:16 kouider whene i do this line update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults
09:13 kouider some times
09:12 magnuse are you having trouble getting search results?
09:12 magnuse yup, zebra is the right choice
09:11 kouider to work zebra
09:11 kouider are its right chose
09:11 magnuse that's good, koha without zebra is deprecated
09:11 kouider ok on koha Searching preferences i have chose use the Zebra search engine
09:10 magnuse kouider: you could also run something like "ps aux | grep zebrasrv" on the command line
09:08 magnuse kouider: the simple answer: when you get the search results you expect :-)
09:07 kouider i have small q how i know my zebra index is working
09:06 kouider oh thank you brother magnuse
09:06 magnuse um, you are already loged in here, i think?
09:05 kouider how i can login IRC chat of koha
09:05 magnuse there are some people here now too, but it's usually more quiet at this time
09:05 magnuse kouider: there are usually more people around when the americans wake up, so in 3-4 hours or something
09:04 kouider ok thanks maguse what the time to active this chat cus iam from north africa
09:03 magnuse this is usually not the busiest time on #koha, but try asking your questions and if anyone feels they can answer, you'll get an answer :-)
09:02 kouider hi magnuse
09:02 magnuse hiya kouider
09:01 kouider any body her
09:00 kouider i have some qs for koha
08:59 kouider hi all how are you iam a new her
08:04 mib_bwyndn where can i activate the editor field in the catalog
07:22 magnuse Oak...
07:21 Oak \o/
07:21 Oak magnuse
07:17 magnuse o/
07:12 gaetan_B hello :)
07:05 julian_m hello
07:03 Oak kia ora #koha
07:01 wahanui privet, reiveune
07:01 reiveune hello
07:01 Joubu hi
06:54 spkm anyone aware of how to set a resource to be a long loan item or short loan item?
06:34 vkm is it possible to install on above server as i have installed it on simple pc
06:32 vkm hello amit
06:32 Amit_Gupta heya vkm
06:31 vkm hello i have IBM 3550M3 server is it possible to install koha live cd on that without any further configuration
06:16 spkm hi guys, was wondering if anyone knows where to set the item type in koha. as in long loan or short loan
05:45 WaqarAzeem Good morning ...
05:42 cait hi mtj and hi Oak :)
05:41 mtj pings ok, so just slow :)
05:40 mtj down, or sloooow...?
05:40 mtj hmm, koha-bz server is down, atm?
05:40 Oak heya cait
04:34 Oak kia ora #koha
03:43 chris_n g'night
02:33 ASUSunDevil Now comes the real fun, configuration and population! ;o)
02:33 eythian np :)
02:31 ASUSunDevil I want to thank ALL of you for helping me troubleshoot it though! You guys are great!
02:29 ASUSunDevil You know I can't be sure it was autoinstaller either, this is my first time installing koha this way, so it could have been me, but that is how I fixed it.
02:27 ASUSunDevil I'm wondering if there was some reason in 12.04 that the password didn't get set right...oh, another thing was that the host was set to "%", and I changed that to 'localhost' that was the only other change I made.
02:27 jcamins_away Yeah, it was supposed to be random.
02:26 ASUSunDevil you know, I really have no idea, the one in the xml file was some random password of upper and lower case letters. I just reset it to something that suited me, then changed it to match in the XML file. I tried setting privileges on the database to start, thinking that might have been it. Then did the password and that made it work.
02:25 jcamins_away ASUSunDevil: what was the password set to in MySQL?
02:25 ASUSunDevil I am using 12.04 lts server....not sure if it was something there or not, but that was the trick. Basically I went in to mysql, updated the username and password. Then I granted privileges on the database for that user. Then changed the info in the XML file and it allowed me to log into the management interface and do the rest of the setup...just an fyi...
02:22 jcamins_away I haven't used 12.04.
02:22 jcamins_away eythian: ah, true.
02:22 eythian but I haven't tried in ubuntu for a while
02:22 jcamins_away I've never had any problems before.
02:22 eythian ASUSunDevil: it should just work
02:21 ASUSunDevil excellent! that did it! thank you so much! Could there be some sort of bug in the installer that mucks up the user info that goes into that .xml file? I tried the koha-create several times, but it never worked right...then I started digging into the reason why and ended up being the mysql privileges it set in the xml file didn't match up with mysql...
02:19 jcamins_away sudo a2dissite default
02:18 ASUSunDevil through the setup, all works fine, I am able to get into the management interface, now I need to get the opac site to load on port 80, but it's not working. How can I get the public side to show now?
02:18 ASUSunDevil Eythian: I reinstalled ubuntu, installed koha-common, all worked fine. Still had the problem with the errors, and figured out that is had to do with the default user that was entered into the koha-site.conf.xml file. Did some mysql magic, changed some passwords in that mysql and make the .xml file match that user account and I was able to get to the admin site at: spllib.la.asu.edu:8080. I went
02:02 druthb o/
01:31 Oak \o
00:27 ASUSunDevil hmm, ok, I just think my playing around initiall got some stuff all mucked up, so I think I'm gonna try a fresh system and go from there.
00:13 eythian but it's only needed in some situations that aren't all that common
00:13 eythian so it only works if your instancename is defined in the password file
00:12 eythian ah no, it lets you predefine your passwords.
00:11 eythian I haven't looked at the code for it for ages
00:11 eythian I'm not sure
00:09 ASUSunDevil so, if that file /etc/koha/passwd exists, does it force it in some way to use it? Or will it just ignore it?
00:07 eythian /etc/koha/sites/instancename/koha-conf.xml
00:07 eythian The bit about the languages at the bottom will never work too, I need to give that whole thing a tidy up.
00:07 ASUSunDevil where does tha koha-conf.xml file live?
00:06 eythian I've updated the page about the password stuff to emphasise that it's optional
00:06 ASUSunDevil oh
00:05 eythian the problem is the password in the koha-conf.xml doesn't match the password that was used to create the database user.
00:05 ASUSunDevil now that know he process, I migh start over
00:05 ASUSunDevil hmm, playing around at first seems to have mucked up a bunch of stuff then, probably be easier if I just started over again...
00:04 eythian that's not how mysql works
00:04 eythian No
00:03 ASUSunDevil could it be that my user account (username is koha) doesn't have access to the mysql database?
00:02 eythian The instructions make it seem like you do, but you don't
00:02 eythian yeah, you don't have to do that
00:01 ASUSunDevil hmm, I don't remember doing that, I mean I created the /etc/koha/passwd file, but that didn't have any custom database stuff in it...
00:00 eythian I need to change that in the intructions, I think it risks creating more confusion.
00:00 eythian oh, maybe if you specified a custom db...