Time Nick Message 23:59 eythian the packages don't ever try to access a database called "koha" 23:59 ASUSunDevil sql permissions?? 23:59 ASUSunDevil jcamins/rangi: Ok I cleaned everything out, log dir, sql entries, users, etc.. I did a koha-create and all looked good, no errors, went to the site and get some errors again, looking similar to the errors I got not too long ago: http://spllib.la.asu.edu/ 23:56 huginn` rangi: Quote #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.... eventually, ye shall stop asking." (added by gmcharlt at 08:31 PM, July 09, 2009) 23:56 rangi @quote random 23:56 huginn` rangi: Quote #206: "There's a bug for that" (added by chrisc at 11:55 PM, May 24, 2012) 23:56 rangi @quote get 206 23:56 huginn` rangi: Error: There is no Quote with id #205 in my database for #koha. 23:56 rangi @quote get 205 23:55 rangi hmm i should fix the punctuation 23:55 huginn` rangi: Quote #205: "Theres a bug for that" (added by chrisc at 11:54 PM, May 24, 2012) 23:55 rangi @quote get 205 23:53 eythian jcamins: let me know if you find it. 23:52 jcamins Can't find it right now. 23:52 eythian jcamins: ah right 23:52 jcamins Somewhere. 23:52 jcamins eythian: oh, yeah, there's a bug for that. 23:51 jcamins eythian: excellent! 23:51 eythian indeed :) 23:51 rangi and yet the client still gave you chocolates! 23:51 eythian (If you "analyse item", then change the framework, the 773 info disappears.) 23:51 eythian jcamins: you'll be happy to know I found a bug with the easyanalytics stuff while demoing it today :) 23:38 jcamins http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/scripts/koha-remove;hb=HEAD 23:38 jcamins I do that. 23:36 * rangi has to do some work work now, but i think we are really close and i think you probably had it going before just firewall was blocking 8080 23:35 jcamins Here's a suggestion: download the new koha-remove that won't quit in the middle, and use that. 23:33 rangi hmm, try the koha-remove .. its a darn mess when it half runs (both it and koha-remove) 23:33 ASUSunDevil ok, did the koha-create, got: mkdir: cannot create directory 'var/log/koha/spllib: file exists' do I need to remove that directory and start over again? 23:31 rangi and hopefully we will now be trying to connect to the db with the right user and password :) 23:30 * jcamins pretends that it's Friday in the States, too. 23:30 rangi that will start them automagically for you 23:30 rangi nope, you'll want to do koha-create again first 23:30 ASUSunDevil sorry, now removed 23:30 rangi not or now ? 23:30 ASUSunDevil do I start those services up again? 23:29 ASUSunDevil ah ha, that worked, ok, that user is not removed. 23:28 rangi its probably running zebra and/or apache as that user 23:28 rangi then try your userdel again 23:27 rangi /etc/init.d/apache2 stop 23:27 rangi /etc/init.d/koha-common stop 23:27 ASUSunDevil so I need to do something different. Oh, and thank you all so much for the help! 23:27 rangi can you do this 23:27 jcamins Oh. 23:27 ASUSunDevil ok, well, when I try the create again, sudo koha-create --create-db spllib, I get: spllib-koha already exists. The koha user is my regualr account, it was the account I created when i installed the system. It's the only account on the system. 23:26 jcamins Log out as the koha user, and log back in as your regular user. 23:25 jcamins Yep. 23:25 ASUSunDevil hmm, trying to do a userdel on spllib-koha and it tells me that user is currently logged in....is that somehow linked to the koha user account I am using? 23:23 rangi cool, lets try our koha-create again 23:23 ASUSunDevil ok, all gone 23:23 ASUSunDevil ok 23:23 rangi yes please 23:23 rangi please get rid of koha too 23:23 ASUSunDevil should I remove the koha user too? 23:23 ASUSunDevil ok, all are gone except for root, debain-sys-maint and koha now 23:22 rangi and then quit out of mysql 23:22 rangi so pristine 23:22 rangi ? 23:22 rangi so just root and debian-sys-maint left 23:22 rangi and drop user 'koha'@'%'; 23:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7112 major, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import 23:22 jenkins_koha kyle: Bug 7112 - Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import 23:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #26: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/26/ 23:21 rangi yep but lets clean it out first 23:21 ASUSunDevil well, the main system account I created was koha too, I wanted it all to use that user....if possible. 23:21 rangi lets try drop user 'koha-koha'@'%'; 23:21 rangi oh cool so the koha user is there 23:20 ASUSunDevil lets see...the root user is there, debian-sys-maint, koha-koha, and koha 23:18 rangi wanna find out what users are hanging around in mysql 23:17 rangi select * from users; 23:17 rangi then mysql -uroot -p mysql 23:17 rangi yeah and do the userdel like before too 23:16 ASUSunDevil should I try removing those? 23:16 ASUSunDevil the koha_biblio db and spllib db are still in mysql 23:16 rangi no site in sites-enabled? 23:15 rangi no db? 23:15 rangi did it clean out the rest ? 23:15 ASUSunDevil ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_spllib'@'%' 23:15 ASUSunDevil Removing Koha instance spllib 23:15 ASUSunDevil hmm, yeah, when I did that command I got: 23:14 rangi and we should be all good 23:14 rangi then do the create again 23:14 rangi so lets get back to a clean slate if we can 23:14 rangi probably crept in when we still had the typo 23:14 rangi i think we have an error in our mysql permissions 23:13 rangi right ok, so lets do a koha-remove splib 23:13 ASUSunDevil I just opened up the port on the firewall, so now I can hit the site, but there's an error there too 23:13 rangi (you might have to apt-get install telnet) 23:12 rangi telnet 129.219.55.242 8080 23:12 rangi can you try this on the server 23:12 rangi but i think its between your server and the world 23:12 rangi so yeah we just have to figure out why cant hit 8080 23:12 rangi thats right 23:12 rangi koha'@'localhost' 23:11 rangi cool now its 23:11 ASUSunDevil ok, did tha then rean service apache2 reload 23:11 rangi (get rid of that old koha one in there its answering when the splib one should be) 23:11 rangi a2dissite koha 23:10 rangi try this 23:10 rangi yep 23:10 ASUSunDevil oh, wait, ok, it must have had the old page cached...I get it now too, but with a "software error" 23:10 rangi and it looks like 8080 is being blocked at a firewall or something 23:09 ASUSunDevil resloves to the ip address, 129.219.55.242 23:09 rangi cos i get your koha page 23:09 rangi http://spllib.la.asu.edu/ 23:09 rangi resolve to 23:09 rangi host spllib.la.asu.edu 23:09 rangi on the server what does 23:08 ASUSunDevil yeah, I listen on 80 and 8080 (in that order) also, the first two lines are NameVitualHost for those two ports as well. 23:08 rangi you need to tell apache to listen on port 8080 if you want it to :) 23:07 rangi (after the Listen 80) 23:07 rangi line in there 23:07 rangi do you have a Listen 8080 23:07 rangi check your /etc/apache2/ports.conf 23:06 ASUSunDevil I can ping it from other systems just fine 23:06 ASUSunDevil yep 23:06 ASUSunDevil yeah, he host name is just spllib, everything is responding normally. I just want the host to be the url people visit for the public site. then for the admin, the hostname on 8080 23:06 rangi so that spllib.la.asu.edu resolves to that box eh? 23:05 rangi you have your dns set up eh 23:05 ASUSunDevil hmm, I restarted apache, but still cannot access the site.... 23:05 rangi check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled now 23:04 rangi sure does 23:03 ASUSunDevil does that look like a success? 23:03 ASUSunDevil koha@spllib:~$ 23:03 ASUSunDevil Starting Zebra server for spllib 23:03 ASUSunDevil ... waiting ...done. 23:03 ASUSunDevil * Restarting web server apache2 23:03 ASUSunDevil service apache2 reload 23:03 wahanui i already had it that way, ASUSunDevil. 23:03 ASUSunDevil To activate the new configuration, you need to run: 23:03 ASUSunDevil Enabling site spllib. 23:03 ASUSunDevil Koha instance is empty, no staff user created. 23:03 ASUSunDevil koha@spllib:~$ sudo koha-create --create-db spllib 23:03 ASUSunDevil ok, I got he following: 23:02 rangi give it a go, see what happens 23:02 ASUSunDevil ok, I'm gonna try it with that info, the normal user I setup "koha" is the account I am using and the user that should be setup on he database... 23:00 rangi the latter, afaik, ive never used it, and we may not need it, it might have been a red herring, since the missing " was the actual problem 22:59 ASUSunDevil I have a question fist, the /etc/koha/passwd file, are those directives for a new account, or the info in place for a new account that will be created? 22:58 rangi yes 22:58 ASUSunDevil should I try the koha-create command again? 22:57 ASUSunDevil ok, done 22:56 rangi and try the koha-create again 22:56 rangi mysqladmin -uroot -p drop spllib 22:56 ASUSunDevil ok, done 22:56 rangi sudo userdel spllib-koha 22:55 rangi try this 22:55 rangi dang, that typo got us in a bit of a mess 22:55 ASUSunDevil ok, did it and got the "User spllib-koha already exists" 22:54 rangi try the create again now 22:54 ASUSunDevil koha@spllib:~$ 22:54 ASUSunDevil ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_spllib'@'%' 22:54 ASUSunDevil Removing Koha instance spllib 22:54 ASUSunDevil koha@spllib:~$ sudo koha-remove spllib 22:54 ASUSunDevil ok, did it, I got: 22:53 rangi hopefully it removes it, and then you can do a koha-create again 22:53 rangi you dont, that will never work 22:53 ASUSunDevil ok 22:53 rangi koha-remove spllib 22:53 ASUSunDevil do I change the @koha to @spllib? 22:53 rangi ok, this may or may not work 22:52 rangi use the paste :) 22:52 rangi eeek 22:52 ASUSunDevil .swp 22:52 ASUSunDevil koha@ 22:52 ASUSunDevil ../ 22:52 ASUSunDevil " ============================================================================ 22:52 ASUSunDevil " Quick Help: <F1>:help -:go up dir D:delete R:rename s:sort-by x:exec 22:52 ASUSunDevil " Sort sequence: [\/]$,\<core\%(\.\d\+\)\=\>,\.h$,\.c$,\.cpp$,\~\=\*$,*,\.o$,\.obj$,\.info$,\.swp$,\.bak$,\~$ 22:52 ASUSunDevil " Sorted by name 22:52 ASUSunDevil " /etc/apache2/sites-enabled 22:52 ASUSunDevil " Netrw Directory Listing (netrw v143) 22:52 ASUSunDevil " ============================================================================ 22:52 ASUSunDevil oh, looks like the old one is still there, all that's in there is: 22:52 rangi is there a splib file in there ? 22:51 rangi check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled 22:51 ASUSunDevil this is where I was at when I came back....not sure where to go from here 22:50 ASUSunDevil ok, just restared...I just get the default website "It Works!" on spl.la.asu.edu and if I try the :8080 port, nothing.... 22:49 rangi and then hit the site, and see if you get the web based installer 22:49 rangi try apache2ctl restart 22:49 rangi cool 22:49 ASUSunDevil looks like it did 22:49 ASUSunDevil +--------------------+ 22:49 ASUSunDevil | test | 22:49 ASUSunDevil | spllib | 22:49 ASUSunDevil | performance_schema | 22:49 ASUSunDevil | mysql | 22:49 ASUSunDevil | koha_biblio | 22:49 ASUSunDevil | information_schema | 22:49 ASUSunDevil +--------------------+ 22:49 ASUSunDevil | Databases | 22:49 ASUSunDevil +--------------------+ 22:49 rangi and see if it created the db 22:48 rangi can you do a mysqlshow -uroot -p 22:48 ASUSunDevil this might be becuase I tried this a few times before coming back here...is there anything I need to do? 22:48 ASUSunDevil ok, I did that command and I get: user spllib-koha already exits 22:47 rangi that would do it 22:47 rangi ahhh 22:47 ASUSunDevil in my sites file 22:47 ASUSunDevil " 22:47 ASUSunDevil oh, I figured it out, there was a missing 22:47 rangi hmm no idea then, jcamins/ eythian any ideas? 22:45 ASUSunDevil sed: -e expression #7, char 144: unterminated `s' command 22:45 ASUSunDevil koha@spllib:~$ sudo koha-create --create-db spllib 22:45 ASUSunDevil ok, so I ran the koha-create again, and I got: 22:43 rangi i think so 22:43 ASUSunDevil ok, cool 22:43 rangi ah yeas 22:43 rangi hmm? 22:43 ASUSunDevil so the first part and the last part in that /etc/koha/passwd is the same thing, in my case, right? 22:42 rangi all using the same code base, but different databases 22:42 rangi you can have multiple instances on one machine, using the packages 22:42 rangi then spllib is your instancename, and pass that to koha-create too 22:42 ASUSunDevil oh, ok, actually I want it to be called spllib.la.asu.edu 22:41 rangi make sense? 22:41 rangi by calling that koha-create command 22:41 rangi so you are making biblio.la.asu.edu 22:41 ASUSunDevil ok 22:41 rangi it is 22:41 ASUSunDevil whatabout the database name then, isn't that the same thing? 22:40 rangi so biblio 22:40 rangi whateever you are planning to pass to koha-create .. looks like you want to call your koha site biblio 22:40 ASUSunDevil ok, so in that file, what is the instancename supposed to be? 22:39 rangi in that case it does seem that you now need the /etc/koha/passwd file 22:38 rangi cool 22:38 ASUSunDevil yes, it is a symlink to debian.cnf 22:38 rangi look in /etc/mysql is there a koha-common.cnf file ? 22:37 ASUSunDevil sure, what check? 22:37 ASUSunDevil sed: -e expression #7, char 144: unterminated `s' command 22:37 ASUSunDevil cat: /etc/koha/passwd: No such file or directory 22:37 ASUSunDevil koha@spllib:~$ sudo koha-create --create-db biblio 22:37 ASUSunDevil ok, so now, I do the sudo koha-create --create-db biblio command, and I get: 22:37 rangi can you do me a quick check 22:36 rangi yep 22:34 ASUSunDevil MySQL is already installed, so I can ignore that. I am not running a remote mysql server, so I skip the /etc/koha/passwrd file step, right? 22:33 rangi yup 22:33 ASUSunDevil ok, then the next thing I do is issue the a2enmod rewrite, it tells me that is already enabled, so am I good on that? 22:33 rangi yep 22:32 ASUSunDevil ok, commented it out. I want to admin site on the 8080 port and the public (opac) site on the 80 port, so those settings are ok? 22:31 rangi yep or comment it out with a # at the start 22:31 rangi other than that it looks ok 22:31 ASUSunDevil ok, remove the whole line? 22:31 rangi only needed if you're pre-populating from another Koha database 22:30 rangi id remove the defaultsql line 22:30 pastebot "ASUSunDevil" at 129.219.55.204 pasted "koha-sites.conf" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/411 22:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #26 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8135 critical, P1 - high, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Services Directory and itemrecorddisplay.pl File Missing After Install 22:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7178 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Improve order item creation 22:30 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8135 : Fix installer to copy services/ dir 22:30 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7178 follow-up: Do not fill items table with "(undefined)" 22:30 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7178 follow-up: Fix check_additem when UniqueItemFields is empty 22:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #25: SUCCESS in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/25/ 22:28 ASUSunDevil sure, give me a second... 22:28 rangi http://paste.koha-community.org/ <-- can you paste yours in here 22:27 pastebot "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "koha-sites.conf" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/410 22:27 ASUSunDevil well, for the koha-sites.conf file, I tried to put in some defaults the way I thought they should be, but it didn't seem to work. After completing the rest, I couldn't pull the site up in a browser. By the way, being this is a server, there is no X installed, so I am trying to access the site from a different compuer... 22:25 rangi heres what mine looks like 22:25 rangi ASUSunDevil: what bit is confusing you? 22:25 rangi cool :) 22:25 chilts tell you more later 22:25 chilts saw TimW last week too :) 22:25 chilts I went to Bristol with Urvesh last week, but you probably never worked with him 22:25 rangi excellent, see you then 22:24 chilts top being the State Tower side ... but yeah, Bristol sounds good 22:24 rangi bristol at 12.30 ? 22:24 rangi oh excellent 22:24 chilts rangi: top of Willis St, so I'm accessible down your side of Willis 22:23 jcamins eythian++ 22:23 rangi that was eythian 22:23 jcamins It's good to have it updated to the current version. 22:22 * jcamins looks at thie history. 22:22 jcamins rangi: when did you create that page? 22:22 rangi chilts: where's your office at? 22:22 ASUSunDevil rangi: ok, install via apt-get worked just fine, but now I'm having issues with the rest of the configuration/install... On the document: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze I am athe quickstart portion, but I'm not sure what I need to put in these areas...can you walk me through it to get the site running? 22:21 chilts name a time and place and I'll be there 22:21 rangi excellent 22:21 chilts yeah, sounds good 22:21 rangi wanna meet for lunch? 22:21 chilts rangi: yeah, on the way in now 21:48 rangi yay! 21:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #734: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/734/ 21:45 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 21:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #25 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:31 rangi i think so 21:31 jcamins If I push . to @INC, will child processes inherit that? 21:16 rangi sweet 21:12 jcamins Yay! 3.6.x works fine as a distribution code. 21:11 ASUSunDevil ok, install is looking good, had something mucked up with my network settings after my reboot, but I got that fixed. It looks like the install via apt-get is working now... 21:02 ASUSunDevil ok, let me try that really quick 21:01 rangi and if it says from precise this time, give the install another go 21:01 rangi then check the apt-cache policy again 21:00 rangi try an apt-get update 21:00 rangi looks correct me ASUSunDevil 21:00 rangi so yeah, cant see why not 21:00 ASUSunDevil other than the defaults, is that correct? 21:00 rangi jcamins: we have staging and production distros 21:00 ASUSunDevil deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main 21:00 ASUSunDevil #Index Data (Zebra) sources 21:00 ASUSunDevil so, the only thing i have in sources.list is: 21:00 jcamins I will try. 20:59 jcamins Woohoo! 20:59 liw jcamins, I don't see why not 20:59 jcamins I'm afraid to try it because I got the repo working. 20:59 ASUSunDevil originally I did, yes 20:59 jcamins rangi: liw: could I have apt distributions called '3.6.x' and '3.6-testing'? 20:59 rangi you must have tried following the lucid instructions 20:58 ASUSunDevil ok, let me try that... 20:58 rangi squeeze is the stable branch .. 3.8.1 20:58 jcamins Sorry folks, 3.6.5 is going to be one day late. 20:58 rangi squeeze-dev will get you packages built from master 20:57 rangi just squeeze 20:57 rangi yes but not squeeze-dev 20:57 ASUSunDevil leave the squeeze line? 20:57 rangi :) 20:57 rangi burn with fire 20:57 rangi yes those 2 lucid lines 20:57 ASUSunDevil deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze-dev main 20:57 ASUSunDevil #Koha .deb packages (Koha-community) 20:57 ASUSunDevil deb-src http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu lucid main 20:57 ASUSunDevil deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu lucid main 20:57 ASUSunDevil oh, so get rid of: #Index Data (Zebra) sources 20:56 rangi and do an apt-get update stuff again 20:56 rangi get rid of that ! 20:56 ASUSunDevil koha@spllib:~$ 20:56 rangi you did did at the indexdata stuff 20:56 ASUSunDevil 500 http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu/ lucid/main i386 Packages 20:56 ASUSunDevil 2.0.44-1indexdata 0 20:56 ASUSunDevil 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe i386 Packages 20:56 ASUSunDevil 2.0.44-3 0 20:56 ASUSunDevil 500 http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu/ lucid/main i386 Packages 20:56 ASUSunDevil 2.0.45-1indexdata 0 20:56 rangi ah ha!!! 20:56 ASUSunDevil 500 http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu/ lucid/main i386 Packages 20:56 ASUSunDevil 2.0.47-1indexdata 0 20:56 ASUSunDevil 500 http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu/ lucid/main i386 Packages 20:56 ASUSunDevil 2.0.48-1indexdata 0 20:56 ASUSunDevil 500 http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu/ lucid/main i386 Packages 20:56 ASUSunDevil 2.0.49-1indexdata 0 20:56 ASUSunDevil 500 http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu/ lucid/main i386 Packages 20:56 ASUSunDevil 2.0.50-1indexdata 0 20:56 ASUSunDevil Version table: 20:56 ASUSunDevil Candidate: 2.0.50-1indexdata 20:56 ASUSunDevil Installed: (none) 20:56 ASUSunDevil idzebra-2.0: 20:56 ASUSunDevil koha@spllib:~$ apt-cache policy idzebra-2.0 20:55 rangi apt-cache policy idzebra-2.0 20:55 rangi sorrry typo 20:55 ASUSunDevil hmm, apt-cache-policy: command not found 20:53 jcamins :) 20:53 jcamins ASUSunDevil: well, if it only supports i386, that's a good reason. 20:53 rangi apt-cache-policy idzebra-2.0 20:53 ASUSunDevil I have 2gb on this machine, it's just a test machine, and it's just a 32bit machine.... 20:53 rangi can you do 20:52 jcamins ASUSunDevil: how much RAM do you have? My rule of thumb is that there is no reason to use i386 anymore. 20:52 ASUSunDevil lol 20:52 rangi its not windows :) 20:52 rangi dont do that 20:52 ASUSunDevil hmm, I'm going to reboot again just to be sure 20:51 jcamins Quantal? 20:51 jcamins That's the one. 20:51 * wizzyrea grumbles 20:51 rangi quantal 20:51 jcamins Whatever the Ubuntu equivalent is. 20:51 jcamins Not sid. 20:51 jcamins rangi: maybe ASUSunDevil somehow managed to get sid packages? 20:51 jcamins rangi: not that version, though. 20:51 rangi wizzyrea: i was gonna go with debian .. but that works too 20:51 wizzyrea I call it "a hammer" 20:50 rangi yeah, all those packages are in precise tho, in the universe so it seems weird 20:50 wizzyrea I call it "a hammer" 20:50 wizzyrea me too ^.^ 20:50 ASUSunDevil hmm, fresh install, haven't really done anything but setup network and enabled a basic firewall using ufw... 20:50 rangi ive got a fix for that too wizzyrea :) 20:50 wizzyrea my colloquy, ever since I got lion (curses!) goes funky sometimes 20:50 rangi but im not sure what 20:50 jcamins wizzyrea: :) 20:49 rangi theres something mucked up in your ubuntu 20:49 wizzyrea i'm not! 20:49 jcamins wizzyrea: don't be offended! 20:49 wizzyrea i haven't done it on 12 yet 20:49 ASUSunDevil E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. 20:49 ASUSunDevil Depends: libidzebra-2.0-modules but it is not going to be installed 20:49 ASUSunDevil idzebra-2.0 : Depends: idzebra-2.0-utils (= 2.0.50-1indexdata) but it is not going to be installed 20:49 ASUSunDevil The following packages have unmet dependencies: 20:49 ASUSunDevil The following information may help to resolve the situation: 20:49 ASUSunDevil or been moved out of Incoming. 20:49 ASUSunDevil distribution that some required packages have not yet been created 20:49 ASUSunDevil requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable 20:49 ASUSunDevil Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have 20:49 ASUSunDevil Reading state information... Done 20:49 ASUSunDevil Building dependency tree 20:49 ASUSunDevil Reading package lists... Done 20:49 ASUSunDevil If I issue the apt-get for just idzebra, I get: 20:49 rangi wizzyrea: yeah, don't do that for 12.04 20:49 jcamins I haven't needed to do that since 10.10 came out. 20:49 jcamins wizzyrea: but that's only for 10.04. 20:48 jcamins ASUSunDevil: how much memory in the machine? 20:48 wizzyrea it has you add the sources from indexdata 20:48 wizzyrea ASUSunDevil: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages 20:48 rangi http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libnet-z3950-zoom-perl <-- says for i386 and amd64 20:47 ASUSunDevil let me try that command 20:47 ASUSunDevil oh, and something else, this is on an i386 machine, not an amd64 install 20:47 rangi what happens if you just apt-get install idzebra-2.0 20:46 pastebot "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "apt-cache policy idzebra-2.0 i" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/409 20:45 rangi weird, all three are in the universe 20:45 ASUSunDevil koha@spllib:~$ 20:45 ASUSunDevil E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. 20:45 ASUSunDevil Depends: yaz but it is not going to be installed 20:45 ASUSunDevil Depends: idzebra-2.0 but it is not going to be installed 20:45 ASUSunDevil koha-common : Depends: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl but it is not going to be installed 20:45 ASUSunDevil The following packages have unmet dependencies: 20:45 ASUSunDevil The following information may help to resolve the situation: 20:45 ASUSunDevil or been moved out of Incoming. 20:45 ASUSunDevil distribution that some required packages have not yet been created 20:45 ASUSunDevil requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable 20:45 ASUSunDevil Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have 20:45 ASUSunDevil Reading state information... Done 20:45 ASUSunDevil Building dependency tree 20:45 ASUSunDevil Reading package lists... Done 20:45 ASUSunDevil after I enter the "apt-get install koha-common", I get: 20:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #734 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #731 1 day 22 hr ago) 20:44 * rangi tests on a precise vm 20:44 jcamins According to the website, it's included in the first. 20:44 rangi no its in the universe, can you cut and paste the exact error? 20:43 ASUSunDevil do I just need to add the one for lib-net... ? 20:43 ASUSunDevil deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates universe 20:43 ASUSunDevil deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates universe 20:43 ASUSunDevil deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise universe 20:43 ASUSunDevil deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise universe 20:43 ASUSunDevil these are all enabled in sources.list: 20:42 rangi -r 20:42 rangi http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libnet-z3950-zoom-perl <-- its in the universer 20:42 jcamins You need to enable "universe." 20:42 rangi check your sources.list 20:41 rangi its in precise 20:41 rangi https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/libnet-z3950-zoom-perl 20:41 jcamins ASUSunDevil: okay, just checking it wasn't a typo in the package. 20:41 wizzyrea ASUSunDevil: I think there are instructions on the wiki for ubuntu 20:40 ASUSunDevil sorry, yes lib-net-z39050-zoom-perl 20:40 jcamins ASUSunDevil: lib-net-z3950-zoom-perl? 20:40 rangi do you have multiverse selected? 20:40 rangi interesting, those are not in precise? 20:39 ASUSunDevil rangi: following the debain squeeze install for Ubuntu 12.04, I issued the apt-get install koha-common and I get a complaint about linnet-z3950-zoom-perl, idzebra-2.0 and yaz not being installed. Is there a way I can get apt-get to install these dependencies? 20:38 rangi found it 20:38 rangi oh nvm 20:37 rangi chris_n: sample quote data 20:36 kathryn morning 20:36 rangi night francharb_afk 20:36 francharb_afk night all 20:36 francharb_afk it's insane 20:35 francharb_afk lol 20:35 francharb_afk I started this morning at 6:30 and it's 22:30... 20:35 francharb_afk and i need to sleep too 20:35 francharb_afk well, I will send something on the koha list to see if anybody is interesting! 20:34 rangi fixed 40, broke 40 20:34 slef francharb_afk: sorry I must pass out now 20:34 rangi heh, we broke even on checkstyle 20:34 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/733/ 20:34 slef "exchange your Scottish notes for Bank of England notes before you leave the country." 20:34 francharb_afk slef, it's more about feature testing that coding... 20:33 francharb_afk oki 20:33 slef francharb_afk: maybe. Look at the schedule on the wiki. I can't remember. 20:33 francharb_afk ;) 20:33 francharb_afk alice cooper? 20:33 jcamins Wow. School is out. 20:32 francharb_afk slef, by the way, I've got a workshop proposal for the hackfest. is it still ok to propose it? 20:32 slef jcamins: yeah, it's much better, except that you cannot smoke a kipper for breakfast while on your night out. 20:31 jcamins When I went back, all pubs were smoke free, which meant that pub-based socialization was possible. 20:31 jcamins *when I was first there 20:31 slef exception of some hotel rooms (enquire when booking) 20:31 jcamins slef: I don't know, but I was first there, pubs were so smoky I couldn't bring myself to go to them with friends. 20:31 francharb_afk ;) 20:31 francharb_afk smoking should be illegal anyway 20:30 slef in all of UK 20:30 slef smoking in any indoor space is illegal I think? 20:30 francharb_afk ++ 20:30 jcamins Smoking in pubs is illegal in Edinburgh. 20:30 oleonard night, #koha 20:30 francharb_afk slef, guess it's the same here... 20:30 slef bye 20:30 sekjal night, #koha 20:29 slef francharb_afk: hey, bestiality only became illegal here in 1994! 20:29 slef francharb_afk: mostly after pubs close on Fri and Sat 20:29 rangi ASUSunDevil: there are packages for precise there, in that ppa, but its my daily build of 3.8.x so tracks ahead of the release slightly 20:29 francharb_afk I live in france, the no public toilet country 20:29 slef francharb_afk: still is... 20:29 jcamins rangi: ooh, can you have periods and numbers in distribution names? 20:29 ASUSunDevil I was running 3.4, but was having some issues, and it was suggested to me to upgrade to 3.8, since Ubuntu and Debian seem to be the standard distros used, I wanted to keep it standard. I'l follow the debian document... thanks again! 20:29 francharb_afk ;) 20:29 francharb_afk was it that common? 20:28 wahanui i think now is good time with holidays coming up 20:28 francharb_afk now? 20:28 francharb_afk "Urinating in public is now against the law" 20:28 slef http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Debian_Packages 20:28 rangi https://code.launchpad.net/~chris-bigballofwax/+archive/3.8.x-dailybuild 20:27 rangi if you want to do some testing 20:27 ASUSunDevil awesome...thank you! 20:27 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze 20:27 slef or that 20:27 wahanui i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 20:27 rangi packages? 20:27 slef ASUSunDevil: the INSTALL or INSTALL.debian files in the download should be OK. 20:27 rangi lemme get it for you 20:27 rangi ASUSunDevil: use the one for debian, it will work fine for 12.04 20:26 ASUSunDevil Ubuntu as well. Or is there a good document to follow for the installation on this platform using packages? 20:26 ASUSunDevil hey all, I was here a couple days ago asking questions about installing Koha 3.8, I have decided to go with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server. I'm set now to start the install process, and was wondering if this guide is appropriate for doing this install (even thought it's for 3.4): http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages . Also the guide seems to be for an olde vesion of 20:26 jcamins oleonard: anyway, maybe it was some of the ISBN cleaning stuff? 20:26 slef francharb_afk: I like children. But I couldn't eat a whole one. 20:25 francharb_afk ;) 20:25 jcamins :D 20:25 jcamins francharb_afk: I recommend against eating that last. 20:25 francharb_afk is it common to eat children in the uk? 20:25 jcamins oleonard: maybe some of the ... 20:25 francharb_afk http://wikitravel.org/en/United_Kingdom : I love the eat section -> Fish and chips ... Curry ... Children... 20:23 rangi woot git-annex-assistant passed 100%! 20:23 rangi oleonard: i gave up when they kept changing it 20:22 wizzyrea I had the friendly people at bywater do it for me 20:22 jcamins oleonard: good question. 20:22 oleonard Who has worked on the Amazon API at all in the last 3 or 4 years? No one that I know of. 20:22 slef "Most cities have designated cycle-lanes although they are routinely ignored by drivers" :) 20:22 rangi slef: thank you :) 20:21 * oleonard wonders how wizzyrea rated an upgrade and he didn't 20:21 jcamins oleonard: maybe it was fixed between 3.6.1 and 3.6.4? 20:21 oleonard 3.6.1 20:21 wizzyrea oleonard: what version do you have? 20:21 slef rangi: I think up to 10% tip in restaurants, maybe similar in taxis but maximum a few pounds, a small note in hotels... and all only if the service was good. 20:20 wahanui 3.6.4 is the current stable version 20:20 wizzyrea 3.6.4? 20:20 oleonard http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=58601 20:20 oleonard http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=285498 20:19 * oleonard is back to wondering how wizzyrea can have Amazon title notes and he can't 20:18 slef and trying to fix them 20:18 slef so I've been discovering which sites still are sending cookies without asking permission 20:18 slef supposedly the cookie law is being enforced from Friday 20:18 wizzyrea borrowers 20:18 gonzalo What is the table that stores the users of koha? 20:17 jcamins slef: better? 20:17 wizzyrea don't need tips to pad their wages. 20:17 jcamins slef: have a biscuit. 20:17 wizzyrea nzers aren't stingy, they just don't tip because people make a living wage. 20:17 slef don't talk to me about cookies! 20:17 slef aaaaah coookies! 20:17 jcamins Or both! 20:17 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies 20:17 jcamins Or cookies. 20:17 jcamins wizzyrea: you should have some spanakopita. 20:17 slef ooh good idea... dinnertime 20:17 wizzyrea clearly I am too hungry and tired to speak. 20:17 jcamins Nope. 20:17 wizzyrea wait that sentence made no sense. 20:16 wizzyrea nzers are stingy because they don't tip because people there make a living wage, or so the cultural advice claims. 20:16 jcamins gonzalo: user information is stored in the borrowers table, but I think you're looking for something else that I don't know the answer to. 20:16 slef "In the male toilets, especially in big pubs or clubs, don't try to strike up conversation or make prolonged eye contact." 20:16 gonzalo ok thanks :d 20:16 jcamins gonzalo: I'm sorry, I don't think I can help. 20:15 slef "Don't tap money on the bar surface to attract the barman's attention." 20:15 slef hehehe I love these tips 20:15 gonzalo jcamins: but what is the table users ? 20:15 slef only because you can't cope with the £ 20:15 rangi Nzers as stingy 20:14 rangi Ok my stop brb 20:14 slef "Visitors from The US and Canada are seen as very generous tippers and even a bit of a soft touch by some" http://wikitravel.org/en/United_Kingdom 20:14 rangi Yeah 20:14 slef rangi: tour guides are inconsistent I think 20:14 jcamins gonzalo: then you have to log into Koha with your database user and change the user's password. 20:14 rangi Ahhh 20:13 rangi Same thing 20:13 slef rangi: restaurant waiters/waitresses, taxis, hotel chambermaid... 20:13 gonzalo jcamins: i need change password for koha user no for database 20:13 * oleonard is back from hearing a sales pitch on Freeding and Freegal 20:13 rangi There's ur tip 20:13 slef oleonard: same as everywhere. 20:13 rangi By kind to your mother 20:13 slef oleonard: no, you bitch and whine at them. 20:12 jcamins gonzalo: if for the database administrator user, you have to change the password using mysqladmin (or the like). 20:12 rangi Heh 20:12 oleonard Web developers 20:12 rangi Taxis eh? 20:12 rangi I never remember who u are supposed to tip 20:12 slef jcamins: 10% for good service IIRC 20:12 gonzalo how do ? 20:12 gonzalo i need change password for admin user 20:11 jcamins Yeah, though not so generous as in the US. 20:10 rangi There is tipping in UK eh? 20:10 rangi Oh yeah 20:10 rangi :) 20:09 rangi I take timetables with a grain of salt 20:09 * jcamins rarely went north of Princes Street. 20:08 jcamins 9 minutes? Huh. I would've thought it would be a bit longer. 20:07 rangi With a little walk either end 20:06 rangi 9 mins on bus apparently 20:06 chris_n ahh 20:06 rangi Thru bugs 20:06 jcamins Okay, not that far. 20:06 rangi Cos I am relaying 20:06 slef yeah it's consensual too 20:06 rangi Will be wrong for me 20:05 chris_n ahh... cool 20:05 jcamins rangi: wow, way up Leith Walk. 20:05 slef chris_n: /ctcp NICKNAME time 20:05 chris_n lol 20:05 nengard hehe 20:05 slef chris_n: have I been watching too many policiers? 20:05 chris_n time of day... hopefully :) 20:05 chris_n ouch! 20:05 rangi The cairn hotel 20:04 slef chris_n: Time Of Death? 20:04 nengard convenient for me :) cause I'm staying away from buses if I can 20:04 jcamins rangi: where are you staying? 20:04 nengard :) 20:04 rangi Conveniently the bus from my hotel to the uni goes close to nengard's hotel 20:04 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" 20:04 jcamins First question? 20:04 jcamins gonzalo: borrowers, but knowing that is not going to help. 20:04 chris_n a cool irc feature would be a hint when you hover over a username giving that user's current TOD 20:02 gonzalo jcamins: what is the table for save users? 20:02 rangi Yep, I have the edi bus app on my phone 20:02 slef wow... if you blank your user-agent, wikipedia refuses to talk to you 20:01 slef rangi: bus is good for short journeys, or where there is no rail. 20:01 rangi Heya Chris_n 20:01 chris_n heya rangi, slef 20:01 jcamins The database password is managed by MySQL, so you just have to change it using MySQL, and then adjust the koha-conf.xml configuration file. 20:00 rangi I'll take the bus 20:00 jcamins gonzalo: for changing users' password, you need to use Koha. 20:00 slef rangi: most of the UK is much much busier :-/ 20:00 gonzalo but for database 20:00 gonzalo i need the change password 20:00 nengard it's going north from there that you have the crazies (like me) :) 20:00 nengard slef driving down there will be fine 19:59 rangi True 19:59 slef rangi: you have challenging roads in NZ :) but it is pretty quiet 19:59 rangi Borrowers 19:59 gonzalo ? 19:59 gonzalo what is the table for save users 19:59 rangi The US driving was a breeze compared to here 19:59 slef The best time to drive is when no bugger else is around. 19:59 slef I've now a very dim view of other drivers. 19:58 slef I've been driving far too much lately, what with the coast-to-coast move. 19:58 slef rangi: hahahahahahaahah 19:58 rangi I can't imagine drivers in the UK could be as insane as nz 19:58 slef nengard: Atlanta to Miami 19:58 mbalmer heh, I know... 19:57 slef mbalmer: sorry to upset you, but Edinburgh is on the coast, not the highlands ;-) 19:57 mbalmer Games, that is. 19:57 slef It will be my first time driving on the right and my first time in ages, if ever, in an automatic. 19:57 mbalmer topics for the Koha Highland Gamn 19:57 nengard slef where you going/coming? 19:57 nengard slef, i'm driving around buxton and ? i forget the other town and then to York and then New Castle area and then EDI 19:57 mbalmer RFID and SIP2 will be my topics. sigh. 19:56 slef I will drive in the US for the first time later this year. 19:56 nengard :) 19:56 nengard and NZ 19:56 nengard i've driven in england before 19:56 slef shouldn't need a GPS for MAN-EDI: M6, A74, A702 from memory. 19:56 jcamins nengard: remember they drive on the wrong side of the road! ;) 19:56 slef was about to ask how nengard was getting to EDI but then remember the car hire question 19:55 gonzalo the users save in database u other file? 19:50 rangi chilts: u in town today? 19:48 * rangi will fix Jenkins at work 19:48 rangi Hmm 19:47 wizzyrea mornin 19:46 wahanui morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 19:46 jcamins Morning. 19:46 rangi Morning 19:45 jcamins That's all the time I spent there, though. 19:44 jcamins Nifty. I was on a train that went through Manchester. 19:44 nengard (ish) 19:44 nengard and staying with friends near there for a week 19:44 nengard Manchester 19:44 nengard no 19:41 jcamins Are you flying into EDI? 19:41 jcamins :) 19:41 nengard will get to that one soon 19:41 nengard catching up on emails (including bug emails) now before heaing to uk tomorrow 19:41 jcamins nengard: well, three, actually. 19:41 nengard jcamins++ 19:40 wahanui rumour has it a patch is pretty old now, good luck 19:40 nengard a patch????? 19:40 jcamins nengard: you might like that one. :) 19:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6557 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , biblioitems.totalissues unused 19:40 * jcamins posts a patch for bug 6557 19:39 jcamins gonzalo: ask your question, and if anyone can answer, they will. 19:38 gonzalo i have any question :C 19:37 gonzalo hello :D 19:00 jcamins wizzyrea: well, it's retrieving editorial reviews from Amazon, so that does make a certain amount of sense. 19:00 wizzyrea that seems… not right. 19:00 wizzyrea so if you turn off reviews, you lose title notes 18:59 wizzyrea also, oleonard - on this one too: http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=126609 18:58 wizzyrea oleonard: should be back on now 18:55 wizzyrea reviews 18:55 wizzyrea oh, it's, weirdly 18:54 oleonard Not back on this one: http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=55804 18:52 wizzyrea I just turned it off and the title notes disappeared (it's back now) 18:52 wizzyrea yup, sho nuff. 18:51 jcamins It's just AmazonEnabled. 18:51 wizzyrea period 18:51 wizzyrea but you know there's nothing in the preferences about title notes from amazon 18:50 jcamins No, definitely not in the MARC. 18:50 wizzyrea for hamlet 18:50 wizzyrea it's not in the MARC 18:50 jcamins Or elves. 18:50 jcamins Gnomes. 18:48 * wizzyrea doesn't know 18:47 * oleonard looked for a record in both our catalogs 18:47 oleonard Why not for this book? http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=126609 18:44 jcamins Maybe I need to enable that. 18:44 jcamins Those are nice. 18:44 jcamins I didn't think that worked. 18:43 jcamins Amazon. 18:43 jcamins Huh. 18:43 jcamins LTFL? 18:42 wizzyrea no syndetics in our catalog 18:42 jcamins No. 18:42 jcamins Syndetics. 18:42 jcamins Ohhh. 18:42 * wizzyrea is almost positive those are coming from amazon 18:41 jcamins 'Cause those title notes are pretty impressive. 18:41 wizzyrea http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=55804 18:41 oleonard ?! 18:41 wizzyrea au contraire, i'm looking at one 18:41 jcamins Where do you get the title notes from? 18:41 oleonard Not from Amazon you don't 18:41 wizzyrea and we get title notes 18:40 wizzyrea sometimes we get a related 18:40 oleonard The API changed and no one updated Koha to match 18:40 oleonard Only covers work now 18:40 wizzyrea reviews definitely are 18:40 wizzyrea sometimes? 18:40 oleonard But amazon content is broken? 18:40 wizzyrea amazon I think 18:39 jcamins What's the Related tab from? LT? 18:37 jcamins We need a "flush cache" button somewhere. 18:36 * jcamins mutters imprecations about memcached. 18:34 jcamins No border is visible past fifteen degrees. :) 18:34 wizzyrea could possibly be improved though. 18:33 jcamins At an angle of 5 degrees it has a border. 18:33 jcamins You're right. 18:33 wizzyrea mmm no it doesn't the border is light light grey 18:33 jcamins Exceedingly snazzy. 18:33 jcamins Very, very snazzy. 18:33 jcamins That'd also be very snazzy. :) 18:32 jcamins When you click on a tab, it loses its border. 18:32 wizzyrea right, might be able to add it though 18:32 jcamins It doesn't tell you which of those other editions has a copy available. 18:32 jcamins You have a CSS issue. 18:32 jcamins Yeah, that's exactly what I was picturing. 18:31 jcamins Excellent! 18:31 jcamins Oh, you have it on. 18:31 wizzyrea :)) 18:31 wizzyrea no need 18:31 wizzyrea http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=55804 18:31 jcamins I will turn on xISBN and see what I see. Hold on while I switch databases. 18:31 jcamins With a search, you have a nice green "Copies available for loan" on a particular edition, if there are copies available. 18:30 jcamins I'm thinking "I want a copy of Hamlet that is available now." 18:30 jcamins Right, you have to click through, yes? 18:30 wizzyrea not under the "editions" tab? 18:29 jcamins I didn't think it consolidated results on the details page, though. 18:29 jcamins I haven't really used xISBN at all. 18:28 wizzyrea using OCLC 18:28 wizzyrea don't we? I thought we did. 18:28 jcamins And the FRBRized display would be perfect, but we don't have a details view that uses it, do we? 18:28 wizzyrea sure sure :) 18:28 jcamins wizzyrea: multiple copies, yes, but if you're not having the students read any of the scholarly apparatus, they could read any of the fifty editions that were purchased over the last century and a half. 18:27 wizzyrea isn't ferber the cry it out guy. 18:27 wizzyrea or frbrize your results :P 18:27 wizzyrea that's why you get mulitple copies of the same edition 18:27 jcamins You'll end up with an absurd waiting list. 18:26 wizzyrea lol 18:26 jcamins If you have a big highschool class, pointing them all to the same edition of Hamlet is pointless. 18:26 * oleonard kicks over a trash can for emphasis 18:26 oleonard Naw, sounds pointless :P 18:25 wizzyrea so I should uh, file an enh bug for that then >.> 18:25 jcamins On a summer reading list 18:25 jcamins Also useful for something like Hamlet. 18:24 wizzyrea also a good use for it 18:24 oleonard Or for maintaining complete lists of things like award-winners which the library may not have all of 18:23 wizzyrea the idea being that users could keep lists of things that are, for example, not published yet, and not in the catalog 18:23 jcamins I think that would be very useful. 18:23 wizzyrea (since it's not linked to a specific item) 18:23 wizzyrea in the list, the title would be linked to a search for those terms 18:22 wizzyrea And what i mean is, the user types in the title/author of the book 18:22 wizzyrea What do you all think of the ability to add user entered titles to lists in the OPAC? 18:09 jcamins The reason I haven't automated it yet is I'm not yet sure it works. 18:09 jcamins magnus_away: once I figure out how to do everything, I'll put it on the wiki. 18:08 jcamins Well, since I forgot about the translations until too late, the release won't be until tomorrow morning anyway. 18:08 * magnus_afk whispers something almost inaudible about documentation and the wiki, then wanders off 18:07 jcamins I think it's going to take a bit of time for me to get this fully automated. 18:04 liw I use the dch tool and a text editor to maintain my debian/changelog, plus scripts like biuld-git-snapshot when it needs to happen automatically 18:04 jcamins Ah, build-git-snapshot does it. 18:03 jcamins I think eythian must have some sort of script to do that. 18:01 jcamins I mean, I now understand where it needs to be changed, but I don't know exactly how to change it. 18:01 jcamins Except for the changelog bit. 18:01 liw jcamins, excellent .) 17:59 jcamins I figured that out! 17:59 jcamins Yay! 17:59 jcamins I guess I also have to figure out what goes in conf/incoming 17:59 liw you can change the .changes file before signing it with debsign, but it's generally better to change debian/chanelog 17:58 jcamins I guess that means I have to change it in debian/changelog. 17:57 jcamins Hm. 17:57 liw jcamins, dput doesn't care, it just puts the files in the right place; reprepro gets it from the Distribution: header in the .changes file, and it gets put there by dpkg-genchanges and that gets it from debian/changelog 17:56 jcamins liw: how does dput know which distribution I want to upload the file to? 17:39 Oak night. 17:34 jcamins Gotcha. 17:33 liw jcamins, it makes it easier to upload the right files to the repo: you give it the changes file and it finds the right files to upload from that (and also checks that you haven't forgotten to sign) 17:32 jcamins liw: why would I use dput? 17:24 sekjal say what you will about Zebra, at least it's FAST 17:24 sekjal so it needs insane amounts of diskspace, and it's still slower than mud 17:23 sekjal I think Aleph does all it's indexing in the DB 17:23 jcamins As is the rain. 17:23 sekjal yeah 17:23 jcamins Wow that's depressing. 17:22 sekjal searched 'the' on a Koha install... 355576 results in 4 seconds 17:22 sekjal was trying "physics" and "theory", at a few dozen thousand each. results in 30-45 seconds (the first time) 17:21 jcamins sekjal: that favored poetry journal, "The"? 17:21 sekjal seems that, the larger the result set for your query, the longer it takes to return anything. 17:21 sekjal just had the displeasure of searching our Aleph OPAC for a generic term. 17:14 jcamins Thanks. :) 17:13 jcamins Okay. 17:13 liw I don't even seem to have a dpkg-sign :) 17:13 liw debsign 17:12 jcamins Is it better to use debsign or dpkg-sign? 17:11 liw if you do "gpg --list-secret-keys" you'll see sec and ssb instead of pub and sub 17:11 * jcamins adds and deletes a package from the repo repeatedly. 17:11 liw well, technically pub is the public part of the main key, and sub is the public part of the sub-key 17:11 jcamins Thanks. 17:10 liw you only need to care about the if for the public key 17:10 liw pub is the public key, sub is a sub-key 17:09 jcamins Maybe. 17:09 * jcamins figures it out. 17:08 jcamins When I generated a key, I ended up with a "pub" line and a "sub" line. 17:08 jcamins Uh-oh. I think I'm doing something wrong. 17:08 jcamins It is? 17:07 wizzyrea had to share, that's pretty wicked. 17:07 wizzyrea http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/05/17/74-usd-allwinner-a10-android-4-0-mini-pc-usbhdmi-stick/ 17:06 liw the key id is the same 17:05 jcamins The key id I put after SignWith: ... should that be the public key or the private key? 17:05 jcamins Oh... I think maybe I got this backwards and that's why that key wasn't working... 17:04 liw gpg --delete-key and gpg --delete-secret-key are there for removing keys, if you want to, though I'm not sure I've ever used them 17:03 liw correct, it shouldn't matter 17:03 jcamins Okay, I guess this extra gpg key isn't hurting anything. 17:03 jcamins liw++ 17:03 oleonard Felix Felicis 17:03 jcamins True. 17:03 wizzyrea not with liw around :) 17:03 jcamins It's finding solutions that's more difficult. 17:03 jcamins chris_n: finding *problems* is easy. 17:02 chris_n whatever caused you to find all of those problems 17:02 jcamins lol 17:02 oleonard Success juice? 17:02 * wizzyrea suspects he had "the joy of discovery" for lunch 17:02 jcamins chris_n: what? 17:02 * chris_n needs some of what jcamins had for lunch 17:02 jcamins Now I have to figure out how to remove the gpg I created wrong. 17:02 jcamins It worked! 17:02 jcamins Woohoo! 16:59 * jcamins found another problem, too. 16:56 jcamins Oh, I think I found the problem. 16:56 jcamins Hm. It keeps on giving me a "bad passphrase" error, but never asks for a passphrase. 16:52 liw ah no, should be the sam eone 16:52 jcamins Based on the tutorial I was reading, I thought there was a special (separate) gpg-agent program for reprepro. 16:52 liw for signing an apt repo with reprepro, create a key and then add "SignWith: CAFEF00D" to your conf/distributions file for each distro (replace with your own keyid, of course) 16:52 wizzyrea liw++ 16:51 jcamins Thanks. 16:51 jcamins Oh, is that what gpg-agent means? 16:51 liw to sign an upload, "debsign *.changes" should work 16:51 liw jcamins, if you use any modern Linux desktop, you should have a gpg agent running (possibly seahorse for gnome); add "use-agent" to your gpg config file, and it will be used 16:50 jcamins It's kind of confusing. 16:50 jcamins (specifically, whatever I need to know to sign my packages and apt repo) 16:49 jcamins liw: can you suggest anywhere I might find a very basic introduction to gpg-agent and/or debsign? 16:20 zioha hi oleonard 16:19 chris_n as Pooh says 16:19 wahanui i guess lunch is a good idea :) 16:19 chris_n lunch.... 16:19 oleonard Hi zioha 16:13 jcamins I forgot the VMs don't have much entropy. 16:13 jcamins Bah. 16:12 jcamins :) 16:11 jcamins Well, am. 16:11 jcamins I did. 16:11 jcamins liw: I think that would be very useful. 16:11 liw jcamins, did you use reprepro? 16:10 liw should I cover setting up an apt repo in the kohacon debian packaging tutorial? 16:09 jcamins I guess now I should set up GPG for package signing. 16:07 jcamins magnus_afk: it's very easy. Shamelessly crib off of someone else's files. 16:06 magnus_afk jcamins: feel like sharing your discoveries? on the wiki for example? 16:01 * oleonard gives jcamins a special-edition DVD of "Repo Man" to celebrate 16:00 jcamins I think I managed to set up an apt repo! 16:00 jcamins Woohoo! 15:41 paul_p i'm back 15:14 jcamins Ah. 15:13 magnuse just trying to get an overview of all bugs related to deleting records 15:13 jcamins Aww. 15:13 magnuse sorry, i'm not 15:13 jcamins magnuse: if you're closing bugs, you are forgiven. 15:12 magnuse sorry for the bz spam... 15:04 reiveune bye 14:29 jcamins Perhaps I'll just use git-bz to get the two patches. 14:28 chris_n weirdness abounds... the commit to master is also missing rangi's sign-off 14:25 chris_n jcamins: bad practice, that... imho :-) 14:25 oleonard Whoa, since when does huginn` prompt about needs signoff again? That's great. 14:25 chris_n jcamins: probably by whoever committed them to master 14:25 Barrc jwanger: Thanks, i did search for bugs but the query I used wasn't exact enough. 14:25 jcamins I guess perhaps they could've been squashed together. 14:24 chris_n in that case I'd just grab it from master 14:24 chris_n ahh 14:24 jcamins I didn't cherry pick either patch yet, because I couldn't find the second, and was confused by that. 14:24 chris_n I'd revert the first patch and grab the whole commit from master 14:24 chris_n no 14:24 jcamins That makes sense. 14:24 jcamins chris_n: you mean apply it off the bug? 14:23 chris_n jcamins: i'd just cherry-pick that commit and be done 14:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6657 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Making 999 visible in framework duplicates 999 entry and affects index 14:23 jwagner Bug 6657 14:23 chris_n note that the changes from the remaining patch are in that commit as well 14:23 jwagner Barrc, But 6657 14:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7112 major, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import 14:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8135 critical, P1 - high, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Services Directory and itemrecorddisplay.pl File Missing After Install 14:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8128 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , can't seem to run new sql reports 14:23 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7112 - Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import 14:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7398 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Show number of holds on a biblio in the OPAC details 14:23 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8135 : Fix installer to copy services/ dir 14:23 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8128 - [SIGNED-OFF]Followup - Change default value for cache_expiry 14:23 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8128 - can't seem to run new sql reports 14:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Improve order item creation 14:23 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7398 follow-up DBRev number 14:23 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_7398: Replaced OPACDisplayRequestPriority syspref with OPACShowHoldQueueDetails 14:23 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7178 follow-up: Do not fill items table with "(undefined)" 14:23 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7178 follow-up: Fix check_additem when UniqueItemFields is empty 14:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #733: STILL FAILING in 6 min 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/733/ 14:23 chris_n http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cef7c1b40b403c4bcf0c02b13b60d704e4c8cd83 14:23 chris_n jcamins: it appears to have been squashed into a single patch 14:21 Barrc Of course; sorry. Yes. I am not with it today. That is the problem - back to the cataloguer so! Thanks, I really should have spotted that. 14:20 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7127] Templates must be valid XHTML <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7127> 14:20 jcamins Barrc: I mean your records have two 999 fields. 14:20 chris_n :-) 14:20 chris_n opps 14:20 jcamins chris_n: no, I obsoleted the one that was already pushed. 14:19 chris_n looks like one may have been obsoleted by accident... 14:19 chris_n jcamins: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?bugid=7318&action=viewall 14:19 Barrc melm 999$d biblioitemnumber:n,biblioitemnumber:w,biblioitemnumber:s 14:19 Barrc melm 999$c Local-Number:n,Local-Number:w,Local-Number:s 14:19 * chris_n whips out his mvc lingo 14:19 chris_n jcmains: there is one patch to fix the controller code and another to fix the view 14:18 hdl are your values number only and unique ? 14:18 Barrc no identical, differnt subfields. 14:17 drojf hi #koha 14:17 jcamins Barrc: duplicate 999s. 14:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #733 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #731 1 day 16 hr ago) 14:17 Barrc hdl: There is no multiple local-number definition in the record.abs - any other ideas? 14:09 jcamins I wonder why. 14:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7318 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , Filtering Patron Card Creator by Category Code Does Nothing 14:09 jcamins Hm. I couldn't find the second patch for bug 7318 in master. 14:08 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7112 - Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=285f06e394cd270b978e63173b6cdcb1a0746320> / Bug 8135 : Fix installer to copy services/ dir <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9c0f206ac35250663ddc59f902d35e89085ef54> / Bug 8128 - [SIGNED-OFF]Followup - Change default value for cache_expiry <http 14:08 jcamins oleonard: the best thing to do is copy the f773 code from the 773 section, and change it to f775 and use that. 14:04 * paul_p has to leave for an hour (meeting with a doctor ;-) ) 14:04 hdl Same player shoot again 14:03 paul_p Barrc = you can pay with some signoff (http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=Needs%20Signoff&sharer_id=1) 14:03 hdl Insert Coins... 14:03 Barrc It does!. thanks! 14:03 Barrc Thanks guys - I will look at that. Pay for play, a IRC first! 14:03 paul_p HTH 14:03 paul_p so, zebra think it's not a modification, but a new record. And you get 2 ! 14:03 paul_p this usually happens when Local-number is defined for 2 fields in your record.abs. In this case, zebra make mistake when updating (ie= it searches on Local-number #2, while it had previously stored the record with identifier from Local-number #1) 14:02 hdl And God knows paul_p is much more open to Grace than I 14:01 paul_p hdl gave the answer for free :D 14:01 hdl may lead to that. 14:01 paul_p Barrc yes, me. how much do you give me for the answer ? 14:01 hdl Barrc: multiple Local-number definition in your etc/zebradb/marcflavour/biblios/record.abs 14:00 Barrc Hello all - I got a strange one, koha 3.06.02.000, some bibs show twice (that is the exact same bib number) on staff and OPAC. Rebuilding the indexes sorts out the problem but it reappears after a while and an only a full reindex resolves. Anyone any ideas? 13:55 maximep :S 13:55 * oleonard can wait if jcamins has to bake some crumpets 13:53 oleonard jcamins: Something on line 729? 13:52 oleonard Okay, that fixes the markup problem and outputs the contents of 775$a to the screen. But the term isn't added to the href 13:52 chris_n don't want rangi to age too fast ;-) 13:51 jcamins That's an underscore. 13:51 jcamins Instead of just being 't' it should be 'a_t' 13:50 oleonard Yes 13:50 jcamins On line 733, see the with-param? 13:49 jcamins I need to make breakfast. 13:49 jcamins oleonard: actually, I'm putting it back on you're to-do list. 13:48 jcamins It's now on my to-do list. 13:48 jcamins Easy enough to fix, anyway. 13:48 jcamins Eh. 13:48 jcamins We are. 13:48 nengard :) 13:48 nengard leaving the US for the UK tomorrow!!!! 13:48 jcamins Hmmm... are we marking that page XHTML? 13:47 oleonard Looks the same to me in Chrome 13:47 jcamins Probably also doesn't handle XHTML properly. 13:47 talljoy was first seen in Opera tho 13:47 talljoy yup firefox 13:46 oleonard Yes 13:46 wahanui i guess Firefox is so much better for maximep's use case of opening hundreds of tabs in tab groups. Chrome couldn't do that 13:46 jcamins Firefox? 13:46 jcamins oleonard: talljoy: I'm going to speculate on your web browser of choice... 13:45 jcamins Nope. Wasn't me. 13:45 jcamins Please tell me I didn't write that. 13:44 jcamins Did I write that? 13:44 oleonard the same problem happens in both the OPAC and the staff client if you get a chance to take a look. 13:43 jcamins oleonard: they're not bad. 13:43 oleonard jcamins: How are your XSLT skills? That 775 bug has me stumped. 13:40 oleonard Hm, so I guess we have rounded toolbar buttons now in the staff client. 13:40 talljoy yeah. it's neat stuff. but sometimes what they need is a bit beyond what Koha can do 13:39 jcamins talljoy: that's the kind of library I work with. 13:39 talljoy and lots of authority work jcamins. you'd love it. 13:39 talljoy museum library. crazy cataloging 13:39 oleonard Thanks talljoy, I guess I'm seeing the same thing then. 13:39 chris_n up late mtj or early? 13:39 jcamins Wow. Don't see $f often! 13:38 talljoy =775 1\$aJane's fighting ships$x0075-3025$fenk is what they had. but I tested this with only the 775$a field 13:37 talljoy sure thing. let me go grab it 13:37 oleonard I want to make sure I'm testing with the right data 13:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8144 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue 13:36 oleonard Can you describe the contents of the 775 tag causing problems in Bug 8144? 13:36 talljoy yup 13:36 oleonard talljoy around? 13:27 chris_n jenkins can really spew at times 13:27 paul_p OK 13:26 chris_n due to the missing dep 13:26 chris_n I think that's it 13:26 chris_n FAILED--Further testing stopped: ***** PROBLEMS LOADING FILE 'C4::Message' 13:26 chris_n # Tests were run but no plan was declared and done_testing() was not seen. 13:26 chris_n paul_p: Bailout called. Further testing stopped: ***** PROBLEMS LOADING FILE 'C4::Message' 13:25 wahanui jcamins: that doesn't look right 13:25 jcamins wahanui: change yourself into a person 13:25 mj thank for informing me :-) 13:25 mj ow. well, as I said: new to irc.... 13:24 chris_n mj: wahanui is a bot... feel free to ignore his opinions :-) 13:22 mj Sorry wahanui, I'm new to irc, I typed the wrong username, I meant jcamins 13:21 chris_n mj++ # for filing a bug 13:21 paul_p http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/lastUnstableBuild/testReport/junit/%28root%29/xt_permissions_t/No_user_permissions_to_add__230_/ 13:20 chris_n mj: great! 13:20 chris_n Koha_master/ws/C4/Koha.pm> line 30. 13:20 paul_p chris_n maybe, but in this case, the message is at the very least very unclear ! 13:20 chris_n # Error: Can't locate DateTime/Format/MySQL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/jenkins/jobs/Koha_master/workspace/blib/arch /home/jenkins/jobs/Koha_master/workspace/blib/lib <http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/ws/> /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at <http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/ 13:20 chris_n # Tried to use 'C4::Message'. 13:20 chris_n # at t/00-load.t line 32. 13:20 chris_n # Failed test 'use C4::Message;' 13:20 chris_n hence: 13:20 * chris_n thinks its because jenkins does not have the new core dep and so it croaks during testing 13:19 huginn` 04Bug 8148: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , ldap authentication should FAIL if ldap contains NEW password, and user types the PREVIOUS password 13:19 wahanui mj: excuse me? 13:19 mj wahanui, chris_n: I have filed an enhancement request here: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8148 13:19 chris_n or whatever you like ;-) 13:18 chris_n or tea 13:18 * chris_n hands paul_p coffee 13:18 paul_p chris_n right ;-) 13:18 huginn` paul_p: The operation succeeded. 13:18 paul_p @later tell rangi about jenkins complain, it's related to bug 7977, but I don't understand why it complain, the test work on my laptop... 13:18 chris_n you mean rangi? 13:18 huginn` paul_p: The operation succeeded. 13:18 paul_p @later tell chris_c about jenkins complain, it's related to bug 7977, but I don't understand why it complain, the test work on my laptop... 13:18 chris_n broken test? 13:17 jcamins Oh, because it's tests 33 and 34 that could be problems. 13:17 jcamins paul_p: oh, that's weird. I wonder why it said it was okay, then. 13:16 paul_p 1..34 13:16 paul_p ok 34 - No user permissions to delete 13:16 paul_p ok 33 - No user permissions to add 13:16 paul_p ok 32 - Found 50 perms 13:16 paul_p ok 31 - Open translated user permissions file installer/data/mysql/es-ES/mandatory/userpermissions.sql 13:16 paul_p jcamins I have 50 13:16 paul_p perl xt/permissions.t works fine for me... 13:16 jcamins Right? 13:16 jcamins paul_p: I don't see any problem. It says "ok 32 - found 47 permissions!" 13:16 huginn` chris_n: The operation succeeded. 13:16 chris_n @later tell rangi we need to add DateTime::Format::MySQL to jenkins as well as the sample quote data 13:15 * chris_n cannot vouch that it works correctly 13:15 chris_n paul_p: mtj's patch is self-signed.. he added it when he QA'd 13:14 paul_p chris_n = it's chris_c that manages most of jenkins 13:14 paul_p ... should be OK. /me investigates 13:14 paul_p Signed-off-by: Mason James <mtj@kohaaloha.com> 13:14 paul_p 13:14 paul_p mmm... add edit_quotes to es-ES/mandatory/userpermissions.sql 13:13 jcamins I thought someone named Samuel volunteered to be Translation Manager. 13:13 jcamins Hm. He's not listed anymore never mind. 13:13 chris_n Samuel? 13:13 chris_n paul_p: and add the new dep to jenkins as well ;-) 13:13 jcamins Do we know his e-mail address? 13:12 jcamins I guess I should include Samuel in the e-mail. 13:12 chris_n he'll create a branch for it from whence you may cherry-pick at your leisure 13:11 * paul_p fixes that immediatly 13:11 paul_p there was a follow-up for this file !!! 13:11 paul_p ok 32 - Found 47 perms ! 13:11 paul_p yikes ! ok 31 - Open translated user permissions file installer/data/mysql/es-ES/mandatory/userpermissions.sql 13:11 jcamins Thanks. 13:11 jcamins chris_n: okay. 13:11 chris_n jcamins: yes... I usually fire off an email which seems to be faster 13:10 jcamins chris_n: do I just ask fredericd for the translation files? 13:10 chris_n oleonard: I'll sign off on that one ;-) 13:09 chris_n paul_p: we'll need to add the sample quotes to the test data on jenkins_koha 13:08 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7977 follow-up DBRev number 13:08 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7977 follow-up, fixing UC breaking coding guidelines 13:08 jenkins_koha * mtj: add edit_quotes to es-ES/mandatory/userpermissions.sql 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Fixing a typo in the quotes-upload help file and hardcoded css 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Making source a text field rather than a varchar to avoid potential length limitations 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Improving upload result message display 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Fixing a bug which results in quote fields being incorrectly offset when saving uploaded quotes 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Removing unused code from quotes_ajax.pl 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Followup patch addressing items pointed out by Jonathan Druart 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Adding Koha standard help files for QOTD feature 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Adding Daily Quotes Tests to Koha.t test suite; also fixing sort order on quote selection SQL 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Fixing quote sample data timestamps 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Fixing captialization on the tools main page 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Further UI work on the QOTD editor 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Further UI work on the QOTD uploader 13:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: QOTD uploader to enable uploading csv files containing quotes 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Quote-of-the-day (QOTD) Feature for OPAC 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Adding DateTime::Format::MySQL as a core dependency 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Adding jEditable minified version 13:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7757 enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Edit basket vendor after it has been created 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Updating datatables.css to reflect changes from v1.8.1 to v1.9.1 13:08 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Upgrading DataTables library to 1.9.1 13:08 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: [PATCH 1/1] Bug 7757 - Followup - Move IF outside of html tag 13:08 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7757 - Edit basket vendor after it has been created 13:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #732: FAILURE in 6 min 23 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/732/ 13:07 * oleonard includes a switch to re-route messages to sysadmins who insist the librarians use IE 13:07 * oleonard develops a tip-of-the-day feature which shames librarians who use Internet Explorer 13:06 jcamins fredericd: about? 13:06 jcamins I need translations. 13:06 jcamins Hm. 13:05 chris_n with a few simple modifications QOTD could become tip-of-the-day for the staff client, as jcamins pointed out some time back 13:04 paul_p chris_n yw ;-) 13:04 chris_n paul_p: thanks! 13:02 chris_n sort of like pam configurations, etc 13:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #732 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:01 mj that could be a solution too 13:01 wahanui bugs is, like, found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too 13:01 chris_n bugs? 13:01 mj so, where can I file an enhancement request for a 'flush authentication cache' button in the staff interface..? 13:01 chris_n maybe a syspref to select the order of precedence when authenticating a user would be nice 13:00 * chris_n tosses wahanui more fudge 13:00 mj Yep. 13:00 wahanui chris_n: that doesn't look right 13:00 chris_n mj: change it at the LDAP server, right? 13:00 mj and if the user types the previous password, he gets in 13:00 chris_n right 12:59 mj chris_n: the sync happens, but if we change the password in ldap, koha still has the previous password. 12:59 chris_n it looks like rangi is using it too 12:59 chris_n tnx 12:59 jcamins chris_n++ # release note generator 12:58 jcamins To avoid unnecessary round-trips, we authenticate against what we have first. 12:58 chris_n lazyness-- 12:58 chris_n ahh 12:58 jcamins chris_n: there is, but it's lazy. 12:58 jcamins And someone may see it, think it's a great idea, and decide to implement it. :) 12:58 chris_n is there really no sync of the user's password between the LDAP server and the local Koha db? 12:58 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7977 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0754c2f7cff6856ca418cff4fa4a336aa0620856> / Bug 7977 follow-up, fixing UC breaking coding guidelines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=28d3693adc7eada6eda1c9700c102e83ef345a9d> / add edit_quotes to es-ES/mandatory/userpermissions.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h 12:58 jcamins No guarantee anyone will implement it, but it's a cool idea. 12:57 jcamins Yup. 12:57 mj We do that in bugzilla? 12:55 jcamins Sounds like a good idea to me. 12:55 mj perhaps I should file an enhancement request? 12:54 mj UPDATE borrowers SET password = ''; 12:54 jcamins Ooh, that's a neat idea! 12:54 mj What I did now: 12:54 mj Would be nice to have. 12:54 mj In other software I have seen a 'flush authentication cache' button. 12:53 mj Not so nice. 12:53 jcamins Right. 12:53 mj (using the local koha/mysql) password 12:53 mj So, if I change the ldap password, but the user types the OLD password, he/she still get's in. 12:53 jcamins (in Koha) 12:53 jcamins mj: yes, that's the way LDAP authentication works. 12:52 mj So it seems... and if that matches: authentication succeedes. 12:52 chris_n slef: identity crises come with foul weather around here ;-) 12:52 mj yes: they match here too. But it seems that FIRST koha tries the local password? 12:29 Amit_Gupta heya slef 12:24 mtj (after you make a backup, and test on a dev system, of course) 12:23 mtj but short answer is... 'yes' ! :) 12:23 mtj ...thats all i can remember (twas 2 years ago?) 12:22 mtj in my case, the ldap server *updated* the koha password - so they both always matched each other 12:21 mtj i have set up only i ldap system 12:20 mtj mj, you might have your ldap set up wrong, too? 11:50 mj (previous password) 11:50 mj in our system, users can login with their new *AND OLD* password 11:50 mj Quick question: Is it safe to remove the patron passwords from mysql, if you are using ldap authentication? 11:49 mj Hi! 11:23 slef hi Amit_Gupta 11:22 Amit_Gupta heya slef 11:06 slef hehe 11:06 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, slef 11:06 slef wahanui: international banking? 11:06 slef INTERNATIONAL BANKING IS FUN! 11:05 slef I think we'll be OK. There's something like £2000 now stuck at Paypal but I'm pretty sure that the balance for the room hire doesn't need paying until next week and that's about £2000. 11:03 slef We just can't pay any suppliers from Paypal, transfer to our bank account or close the account. 11:03 slef Well... we can... 11:02 slef Let me check whether we can even receive donations. 11:02 slef Paypal-- - screwing community projects over since 1999. 11:01 slef They're blaming the EU regulations, but I've been through those regulations in the past, to get another bank to stop arsing around, and so I'm 99% sure this isn't required. 11:00 slef so all the donations sat in Paypal are inaccessible for an unknown period of time 11:00 slef "We'll review your details and will be in touch if we have any questions." 11:00 slef arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh 10:58 magnuse paypal-- 10:36 slef argh, paypal just limited our account again... mjkaye to the rescue 10:15 rangi use it on my laptop and workstation, with davfs 10:15 rangi i just downloaded the app to get 50gig :) 10:15 rangi yep, i dont use it on my phone 10:14 magnuse rangi: cool (not an android user, though) 09:48 rangi http://git-annex.branchable.com/tips/using_box.com_as_a_special_remote/ <-- i use that 09:45 rangi hehe 09:44 magnuse installed! 09:39 rangi :) 09:39 magnuse i need to check it out, i guess ;-) 09:39 magnuse cool 09:38 rangi yup, i already use git-annex 09:38 magnuse sounds like a lot has been done already, though, and this is just to fund the last stretch 09:38 rangi yes, it really is 09:37 magnuse and quite modest, moneywise 09:33 rangi yep 09:33 magnuse rangi: yup, sounds like a cool project! 09:33 rangi magnuse: i see you are backing the git-annex-assistant too :) 09:27 mib_am69mf thanks for ur suggestion i will do it 09:22 hdl mib_am69mf: consider exporting your records and use http://www.sigb.net/download/index.php 09:21 wahanui it has been said that windows is a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server. 09:21 hdl mib_am69mf: windows ? 09:20 slef mib_am69mf: you will probably need to do it yourself, maybe doing some archaeology on http://bugs.koha-community.org to find old 2.2.9 bugs, or find a support company that will support Koha on windows (not the co-op) 09:17 mib_am69mf i will but i want it do on windows 09:16 slef rangi: guess it beats my 12h to akl :) 09:16 hdl mib_am69mf: upgrading to 3.8 could be also helpful... though quite painful... but worth the pain. 09:14 mib_am69mf kk 09:14 hdl mib_am69mf: we would need some more information from apache logs 09:14 mib_am69mf i am using the default user name passwod koha/koha 09:14 rangi it might be mysql user permissions 09:13 rangi oh, yes good thought hdl 09:13 hdl or something else. 09:13 hdl or mysql access 09:13 hdl db structure. 09:13 bag hdl you always take the best pictures http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=9684 09:13 hdl mib_am69mf: it may come from : 09:13 rangi slef: 11 hours to singapore, 13 sing to london ... 1 hour to akl, 1.5 lhr to edinburgh .. the rest is all in airports 09:13 hdl mib_am69mf: would require some more logs to see what is happening. 09:12 hdl hi bag 09:12 bag heya hdl 09:12 mib_am69mf i already asked 09:11 rangi mib_am69mf: hmm i dont know, other than the fact 2.2.9 is really really really old 09:11 hdl mib_am69mf: hadn't seen your question. 09:11 hdl mib_am69mf: hi, please, just ask, don't ask to ask. 09:10 rangi wlg->akl->singapore->heathrow->edinburgh 09:10 slef rangi: ow 36? Air NZ? Stopovers? 09:09 mib_am69mf wt is the problem in koha229 that is able to extract value from my sql but it unable to insert and update value from user interface 09:09 rangi in planes and airports 09:09 magnuse sounds familiar ;-) 09:09 rangi so 36ish hours 09:08 wahanui just ask, don't ask if you can ask and if the right people are not here, they won't answer or you can use huginn's @later to leave a message 09:08 slef mib_am69mf: meta-question 09:08 slef NZ is UK+13 I think. 09:08 rangi magnuse: leave here at 8.40pm sunday june 3 nz time, arrive in edinburgh 8.25pm monday june 4 uk time 09:07 mib_am69mf ? 09:07 mib_am69mf can u sovle one problem of mine 09:07 slef chris_n has an identity crisis 09:07 rangi mib_am69mf: there hasnt been a version released in a long time 09:06 slef 28h? 09:05 magnuse how long will the journey be? 09:05 mib_am69mf hi i want to know the latest version of koha on windows 09:05 rangi until eythian and I started flying 09:04 rangi 9 days 08:58 slef I think we're going to raise £3000ish now, which leaves the hosts putting about the same amount in between us, which isn't too bad. 08:57 magnuse slef: yeah, that sux! 08:57 slef magnuse: pads will be small... ideally I'd like a load of the cardboard pens but they're even more expensive than plastic (crazy!) 08:57 cait I mean it's not a big amount really that was to be raised for kohacon :( 08:56 cait but still bad we have to think about such things 08:56 paul_p magnuse++ for this idea !!! 08:56 magnuse drop the pens and paper and say you are being environmentally friendly 08:56 slef like I say, the basic event will happen, but there's lots of stuff some people would really like 08:56 cait slef: but think the pads and pens I would not worry somuch about 08:56 rangi slef: thats not a bad idea at all 08:55 cait rangi: and I safe my pad from kohacon for special occasions and meetings :) 08:55 slef oh yeah we might go with take-it-if-you-need-it on the desk 08:55 rangi fwiw 08:55 rangi i never use them 08:55 rangi i have a huge pile of pens and pads from conferences 08:55 bag ah yup - we were really late - just submitted tonight 08:55 slef cait: I'm wondering about notepads and pens for the conference pack, I'm still not clear on what internet and refreshments we have there but mle and Andrea know more, at least one cultural/social event, transporting some more equipment to Edinburgh but we can do without that if we must.... I think there is probably more that has been suggested and I'm forgetting. 08:54 * magnuse reads through the list of kohacon sponsors 08:52 bag oh good question cait 08:52 cait slef: what is missing that you would still like to do/get? 08:52 bag paul_p: you can spend months reading EDIfact documentation - and it's different for every group (vendor) 08:51 slef rangi: no thank you :) 08:51 rangi cool thanks :) 08:51 slef rangi: reply with you now 08:51 paul_p hey, it's quite rare that we have ppl from NZ and US and Europe at the same time on this channel ! 08:51 slef cait: basically we're now at the point where the basic conference will happen and every X pounds means we can add something else that people like at a conference, like better conference pack, better internet access and so on 08:51 bag HAHAHA 08:51 paul_p bag = I have no knowledge of EDIFACT to this "segment_group" message is chinese to me :D :D 08:51 cait rangi++ for donating to kohacon 08:50 bag paul_p: with some help from atz -- we've figured out this " LIN is not segment_group 27 in every version" so that would need to be granulized 08:50 rangi slef: did you get my form submission? 08:49 slef cait: some new sponsors... which is why I can order this now. 08:48 bag paul_p: I am worried that the code only works for a certain set of EDIfact 08:48 cait slef: still no new sponsors? 08:48 cait :( 08:48 bag cait: I saw your commets - great! 08:48 * slef places another order for stuff for kohacon, again after the quote expires because of sponsorship slower-than-hoped, hopes he gets away without price increase again 08:48 magnuse paul_p: for the edi enh, i think 08:47 paul_p bag = not sure I understand what you mean by "I'm working on getting a "broader" base of vendors to test against" 08:47 cait you saw my comments? 08:47 cait bag: we need a follow up 08:47 rangi paul_p: hehe yeah, cos i know that frustration, and because 3.8.0 was pretty solid 08:47 magnuse bag: great! 08:47 bag but so far "I would sign off" on the patch 08:47 paul_p (and that was the meaning of a recent mail on koha-devel: we can change it together only) 08:46 bag and I'm working on getting a "broader" base of vendors to test against 08:46 paul_p cait++ 08:46 bag I've installed the patches on master 08:45 magnuse bag: any progress on the edi thing? 08:45 bag too true (thanks magnuse) 08:45 cait it's something we can only change together 08:45 cait or so many bugs waiting for a patch... 08:45 magnuse too true 08:45 bag OR so many great patches out there - but so little time to test :( 08:44 cait so many gread ideas, not enough time 08:44 cait I think we all are frustrated sometimes about all the things we want to do but don't find time for 08:44 magnuse being frustrated and still doing great things deserves a ++ :-) 08:43 paul_p rangi = why this ++ because i'm frustrated ? ( ps: :D and ;-) ) 08:42 rangi paul_p++ 08:42 rangi yep 08:42 bag paul_p: agreed - I see so much great code out there :) 08:41 paul_p (in fact I'm happy, but also very frustrated by all the things i'd like to do but can't) 08:41 bag it gets me really really excited to see 3.10 ;) 08:41 paul_p bag thx. 08:41 magnuse yeah paul_p++ 08:41 bag paul_p: I have not had a chance to say yet - but great job with 3.8 it is really beautiful… (excellent job as RM) :D 08:40 stuartyeates hi magnuse 08:40 magnuse kia ora stuartyeates 08:38 paul_p bag I confirm ;-) 08:38 bag paul_p: is quite a bunch of cm's taller than me 08:37 bag HA I'm always wrong with pictures and height (cause I'm a hobbit ;) ) 08:37 rangi im picking lock in a few years 08:37 paul_p rangi yep, the ground is hard. 08:37 paul_p bag Simon (my son) is just a few cm less tall than I'm. and he weights 85kg (only muscle almost) 08:36 bag I can't tell height in paul_p picture… I'm sure he's going to be as tall 08:36 rangi paul_p: that ground looks hard! 08:35 bag oh man rangi that picture is awesome 08:35 rangi tall for a 9 :) but id expect tall with you as his father :) 08:34 paul_p rangi http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150695747708967&set=a.396716418966.176727.191344518966&type=3&theater (my son is just on the left of the captain, with the red shirt) 08:33 rangi http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=9684 08:32 rangi ooohhhh very cool! 08:31 Oak food! i am hungry. 08:31 bag well paul_p good luck to your son 08:31 hdl rangi: can't remember... 08:30 * bag always thinks of myself as a hat fashion guy 08:30 paul_p rangi = did I told you that my 1st son is playing rugby ? 2nd lines, or number 9. he has the regional yearly tournament semi-final on saturday ! 08:30 rangi it was yum whatever it was 08:30 rangi i think it was moroccan style food too .. can you remember hdl? 08:30 bag silly hats rule 08:29 bag HA 08:29 rangi where the owner tried to get russel to come play for his team in the weekend, and we all wore silly hats 08:29 paul_p ( there's only 1 rugby cafe in Marseille, as it's a soccer city ;-) ) 08:29 rangi i also remember going to a rugby cafe in marseille, with thd, hdl, laurel and russel 08:28 rangi bag: it was the nice bottles of wine you could get with the delicious lunch :) 08:28 bag yup coffee is key ;) 08:28 huginn` slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=Template%20process%20failed%3A%20file%20error%20-%20/usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/.tt%3A%20not%20found could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId 08:28 slef @query Template process failed: file error - /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/.tt: not found 08:28 slef oooh this upsets huginn 08:27 * rangi remembers the cafeteria fondly 08:27 rangi that makes sense now 08:27 rangi ahh 08:27 paul_p rangi in fact, it was big, but only the building we were was university. all the rest was companies / other schools / ... 08:27 rangi oh, seemed pretty big to me :) 08:26 paul_p rangi = not at all. the dev week was at a tiny campus 08:26 rangi cool 08:26 paul_p rangi yep: http://www.univ-amu.fr/ 08:26 rangi is the main campus the one we had dev week at? 08:25 rangi cool 08:25 paul_p (with 3 main campuses, and something like 10 small) 08:25 cait which is why they are so big :) 08:25 bag heya paul_p 08:25 rangi did they all merge? 08:25 rangi ohhhh 08:25 paul_p rangi = since january 2012, 1st, there's only 1 university in Marseille ! 08:25 rangi or is that really one, but 3 campuses? 08:25 rangi arent all 3 in marseille using koha now? 08:24 paul_p there are 9 universities using Koha, from the largest to the smallest : 08:24 cait and thank you for the numbers :) 08:24 cait I thought it was aix marseille, but not sue 08:24 cait ah, thank you 08:24 paul_p cait the largest academic Koha user we have in France is AixMarseille (1.2M items, 70k patrons) 08:24 rangi thank you 08:23 paul_p rangi = StEtienne University, Limoges University, Limoges Public Library, Institut Télecom = 4 08:22 rangi cait: lyon 3 08:22 rangi 3 ? 08:22 cait paul_p: ah, only thought you would know some nice examples for big academic koha users :) 08:22 rangi how many libraries are running koha + solr now? 08:22 rangi i have a question for anyone who knows 08:22 paul_p cait yes (but not really available for a few minuts) 08:21 cait paul_p: around? 08:09 rangi :) 08:08 magnuse rangi: yay. but i already started doing some paid work... will remember it for later though 08:06 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4330 normal, P3, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Copyright statements out of date 08:06 rangi magnuse: bug 4330 has a ton of easy ones to signoff 07:34 magnuse heh 07:34 bag :D 07:34 bag think more holds complexity 07:34 magnuse i sort of did, yes 07:33 magnuse i have no idea what a Transport Cost Matrix is, though... 07:33 bag well you asked right? 07:33 bag there you go ;) 07:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5911 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Transport Cost Matrix of transporting an item between branches 07:33 bag bug 5911 07:33 magnuse hm, feels like i ought to sign off on a patch now, to justify that ++ 07:32 bag yay brendan should always be ahead of bag 07:32 huginn` bag: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. 07:32 bag @karma brendan 07:32 bag proof is there ;) 07:32 bag see magnuse ;) 07:32 magnuse w00t 07:32 huginn` bag: Karma for "bag" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 07:32 bag @karma bag 07:32 huginn` bag: Karma for "magnuse" has been increased 163 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 163. 07:32 bag @karma magnuse 07:31 bag you always do 07:31 magnuse don't think i deserve it, though... 07:31 magnuse hehe thanks :-) 07:31 bag #just cause 07:31 bag magnuse++ 07:31 bag cait++ 07:31 bag :) 07:31 bag heya cait and magnuse 07:30 magnuse hiya cait and Oak and hdl and bshum and everyone else 07:25 cait hi #koha :) 07:17 Oak :) 07:17 cait hi Oak :) 07:07 Oak Guten morgen cait 07:07 Oak \o/ i win 07:07 Oak magnuse 07:06 Oak Ahoy me hearties 06:58 paul_p_ (and just for the record : gaz price in France = 1.40-1.45€/liter) 06:58 rangi hi paul_p_ 06:58 paul_p_ good morning #koha 06:50 * magnuse wanders off in search of breakfast 06:50 magnuse yay 06:49 rangi ssl to my bip, and ssl from it to oftc 06:49 rangi n 06:49 rangi is using a secure connectio 06:49 rangi its 06:49 rangi ahh been that for a while 06:48 magnuse but you are @bugs.kc.org 06:48 rangi it might put it in another window 06:48 magnuse doesn't seem to work in xchat... 06:48 rangi yep 06:48 magnuse just "/whois rangi"? 06:46 rangi but do a whois on me now 06:46 rangi sorry about that 06:46 * magnuse hands rangi the duct tape 06:41 magnuse jcamins++ for epic bug wrangling! 06:41 magnuse kia ora! 06:41 reiveune bonjour 06:23 magnuse ata marie rangi 06:20 magnuse kia ora #koha! 05:52 eythian hello 05:52 cait hi eythian :) 05:36 huginn` eythian: The operation succeeded. 05:36 eythian @later tell wizzyrea 3.8.1 packages uploading now 05:33 Amit_Gupta heya ciat 04:42 francharb hi rangi 04:30 rangi hi francharb 04:28 francharb good morning 03:46 Amit_Gupta heya bag 02:29 rangi heh 02:28 ibeardslee just flabbergasted that people would go that far 02:27 ibeardslee no ad there though 02:27 ibeardslee .. !?! .. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Those-who-miss-that-Sky-TV-On-the-floor-ad/110027425680769 02:24 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1DL_evNMpc&feature=related 02:24 rangi but i found the annoying fresh up ad 02:24 rangi i cant find it at all 02:23 rangi 'where's the remote?' 'ON THE FLOOR!' 02:23 jcamins_away rangi: oh. As it happens, I have a network hard drive on the floor. 02:23 rangi sky tv 02:22 * ibeardslee can't even remember what it was advertising 02:22 rangi but unfortunately not on youtube 02:21 rangi jcamins_away: it was a tv advertisement here 02:19 jcamins_away rangi: my external hard drive? Nah, I'd prefer not to try and mount /var on my VM to an network drive. 02:18 rangi it's on the floor 02:17 jcamins Okay, found more disk space. 02:13 rangi :) 02:12 chris_n :) 02:12 chris_n its all the other idiots on the road that keeps me from getting a bike 02:12 rangi nice 02:12 chris_n so that's good too 02:12 chris_n just replaced an O2 sensor in our van and gained back ~3mpg 02:11 rangi hehe 02:11 * chris_n feels a bit better 02:11 rangi yeah :( 02:11 chris_n ~5.80 usd 02:11 rangi thats nzd 02:11 jcamins Ran out of disk space. 02:11 jcamins Ugh. 02:11 chris_n ouch 02:11 wahanui 8.36485 02:11 rangi 2.21 * 3.785 02:10 rangi 2.21 nzd for octane 91 here /litre 02:10 chris_n ~$3.75/gal 02:09 rangi whats it in the US now? 02:09 * chris_n wishes he had a ducati... with the current price of gas 02:08 chris_n jcamins++ # lots of bug wrangling/rmaint'ing today 02:05 chris_n here we go :-) 02:05 rangi yeah 02:05 chris_n so when it rains.... 02:05 rangi ahhh, pretty fragile then 02:05 chris_n and has lots of grounding issues 02:05 chris_n this dsl is way over 10 km 02:04 rangi altho a ducati ride in severe weather wouldnt be fun 02:04 chris_n severe even 02:04 rangi ahh thats way less fun 02:04 chris_n no, just dsl bounces due to sever weather :-) 02:03 rangi not out on a ducati ? :) 02:03 rangi chris_n: in a bad way? 02:02 chris_n what a ride its been this evening :-P 02:00 mtj bbiab 01:59 mtj ... 01:59 mtj C4/ImportExportFramework.pm: 15 01:59 mtj C4/Letters.pm: 19 01:59 mtj C4/Tags.pm: 49 01:59 mtj mason@xen1:~/g/head$ perlcritic --count ./C4 | sort -rn -t: +1 -2 01:58 rangi good idea 01:58 rangi ahh nice trick 01:58 mtj i started at the top, and worked down, etc... 01:58 mtj $ perlcritic --count ./kohaclone.git | sort -rn -t: +1 -2 01:57 mtj rangi: i came up with a nice way of finding the failing-est files in koha - from perlcritic... 01:50 rangi yeah i think thats when i read it 01:46 mtj ... after seeing the perlcritic errors in koha ,prolly 01:46 rangi its a nice write up, chromatic is pretty awesome 01:45 rangi :) 01:45 mtj yep - i read it 6 months ago, for the first time 01:44 rangi http://www.modernperlbooks.com/mt/2009/08/the-problem-with-prototypes.html 01:44 rangi did you read that link in that patch i pasted? 01:44 rangi it is 01:44 mtj perlcritic is an awesome tool 01:42 mtj and for C4/* ... a .pm file - at a time 01:41 mtj aah, yep - those type of patches have been accepted already... cool :) 01:41 rangi i try a do a dir at a time 01:41 rangi the aim is to get every script passing at least gentle mode of perl critic 01:40 mtj ok.... just checking... before i do a bunch more patches :) 01:40 rangi was pushed by paul_p 01:40 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=6677&action=edit 01:40 rangi thats what that bug is for 01:40 rangi good idea 01:39 mtj good idea? or just a waste of my time? , etc... :p 01:39 rangi yep 01:39 mtj and ... "return" statement with explicit "undef" at line XXX, column 26. See page 199 of PBP. (Severity: 5)" 01:39 rangi prototypes dont work how people think they do, the way we are trying to use them is wrong 01:39 rangi yeah 01:39 mtj for errors like ... "Subroutine prototypes used at line XXX, column 1. See page 194 of PBP. (Severity: 5)" 01:38 mtj these perlcritic errors i patched this morning... would they be accepted? - or refused? 01:37 wahanui yep. 01:37 rangi yep? 01:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests 01:36 mtj bug 6679 01:36 mtj i haz a question about... 01:14 jcamins Well, it's still going on the unit tests. 01:10 jcamins Seems unlikely, but we'll find out. 01:08 jcamins Maybe it'll pass the tests anyway. 01:08 rangi heh 01:07 jcamins It's on the wrong database. 01:07 * rangi crosses his fingers 01:07 jcamins Oh, drat. 01:06 jcamins Cross your fingers, everyone. 01:06 * jcamins tests 3.6-testing. 01:05 jcamins Hopefully I even got the messages on the last ones right. 01:05 eythian http://www.stgraber.org/2012/05/04/lxc-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts/ <-- this could be handy as a lighter weight alternative to using VMs for dev stuff. 01:05 jcamins Done! 01:02 eythian jcamins: doesn't really matter, it'll mostly affect new things, but it's not a terribly important thing either. 01:01 eythian roygbivovac: it's always a good idea to copy the database off somewhere, although I would expect it to be totally safe. 00:48 jcamins I'm sure. 00:48 jcamins Actually, it will only impact new installations. 00:47 jcamins But I'm not 100% sure. 00:47 jcamins I think it should. 00:47 jcamins eythian: should 7885 be cherry-picked to 3.6.x? 00:39 jcamins Yes. 00:37 roygbivovac do you reckon we need to take a snapshot of production before upgrading prod? 00:36 roygbivovac hey eythian, upgrade on test went fine 00:06 eythian Make it easier to deal with things like that. 00:06 eythian I need to revamp the dependency creating script a bit. 00:06 eythian rangi: yeah 00:05 jcamins Just another 30. 00:04 rangi and it could be a recommended debian dependency eh? 00:04 rangi yeah, that's a good idea 00:03 eythian if it's not there, avatars just don't work, that's about it. Should have a note on the syspref that it'll need to be installed. 00:02 eythian ah right 00:02 rangi yeah no required dependency 00:02 rangi Gravatar::URL 1.05 1.03 No 00:02 * rangi runs koha_perl_deps.pl -a to check 00:01 rangi hmm could be, i think its a non requirement, but recommended dependency? maybe? 00:00 eythian Maybe it was fixed since this version. 00:00 eythian well, I haven't looked too closely. Just found that the packages don't install it, and they're based of the deps list. 00:00 jcamins I signed off on a patch to fix it.