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23:11 Space_Librarian thank you. :)
23:11 rangi yep
23:11 Space_Librarian quick question from Marisa: does "holds filled" = "issued"?
23:07 papa hi there!
23:07 Space_Librarian hey papa
23:05 Space_Librarian hooray!
23:05 rangi nice and quiet, and nothing broke, so im happy
23:05 Space_Librarian Was there cake?
23:05 Space_Librarian did you have a good birthday?
23:04 rangi hi Space_Librarian
23:04 Space_Librarian Hey all you lovely people!
23:01 rangi gmcharlt++
22:40 rangi righto
22:39 gmcharlt I think Marshall's also fine with being emailed directly
22:39 * rangi gives it a crack
22:39 gmcharlt rangi: to announce? sure, why not
22:36 rangi http://www.librarytechnology.org/message-send.pl <-- maybe?
22:28 gmcharlt rangi++
22:19 nengard maybe this time we get an answer
22:18 nengard and now i must go take my girl to the vet yet again
22:18 rangi cool
22:18 nengard I posted to foss4lib already :)
22:18 rangi ah that will work
22:18 nengard but it basically emails him
22:18 rangi thanks :)
22:18 nengard it says something like contact marshall
22:18 nengard it's at the bottom of his site
22:18 nengard rangi
22:17 jcamins Not sure, sorry.
22:17 rangi but i might be dreaming
22:17 rangi i seem to remember some form you could submit
22:13 jcamins I didn't think it was automated.
22:12 jcamins rangi: e-mail him?
22:10 rangi hmm i cant remember the magic foo to post an announcement to mbreedings site
21:54 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Koha 3.8.1 Translation Update
21:54 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating release notes for 3.8.1
21:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #20: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/20/
21:39 wizzyrea a well deserved one.
21:39 rangi brb getting coffee
21:39 * wizzyrea throws confetti
21:39 cait rangi++ :)
21:38 jcamins rangi++
21:38 jcamins Woohoo!
21:38 rangi 3.8.1 released
21:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #20 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:30 cait lol
20:30 jcamins (no, that isn't really a choice... that was just for dramatic effect)
20:30 jcamins Oh yes, and we're looking at result set sizes in the millions.
20:29 * jcamins is faced with a choice: algorithm A, or algorithm B. Algorithm A has a complexity of O(n^n), but is easy to implement. Algorithm B has a complexity of O(n^2) but is difficult to implement. Why does it always work out like that?
20:26 jcamins The reindex finished!
20:26 jcamins \o/
20:24 cait :)
20:23 cait meh.
20:23 jcamins Yeah, alphabetization will be off for umlauts.
20:23 * cait has a bug report for scan and umlauts somewhere in there
20:23 cait can yo make it work for umlauts?
20:23 cait it would be nice
20:22 jcamins *?
20:22 jcamins Like, is there any good way to take advantage of Zebra's scan functionality for authorities.
20:21 jcamins Yes indeed. And puzzles.
20:20 mbalmer so many bugs, so little time...
20:20 mbalmer but yes, I filed a pr for that one.
20:19 mbalmer not for the SIPServer, I guess.
20:19 jcamins Oh, you mean you're going to be. Good!
20:19 jcamins Oh, I hadn't noticed you filing bug reports. :)
20:19 mbalmer (I hope...)
20:18 mbalmer that is tha case.
20:17 jcamins mbalmer: you should be sure to make sure the community knows what you're working on by filing bugs explaining the functionality. It helps cut down on duplicated work.
20:14 cait brr
20:13 rangi Bbiab
20:11 kathryn it was, but 3 degrees warmer by the time I got to town
20:11 cait how was the ferry? brrr again?
20:11 kathryn hey cait!
20:11 cait hi kathryn :)
20:10 kathryn morning
20:06 mbalmer even if we don't code a single line
20:06 mbalmer and after all, it wikl be great fun to meet koha folks.
20:06 cait not without all of them, but there is always a bigger part
20:06 cait and need
20:06 cait I think you will find out people can manage without all those features they claim to want
20:04 mbalmer really looking forward to it, but there is so much we need in Koha, it is scary...
20:04 mbalmer yes, me, too, of some sort.
20:03 cait it makes me excited :)
20:03 mbalmer It gives me a headache that edinburgh is so soon...
20:02 jcamins In bugzilla.
20:02 jcamins There's rebuild_zebra_sliced.
20:01 rangi Incremental reindex
20:01 rangi Hackfest idea :)
20:00 rangi Right
20:00 jcamins Of course, we don't have the code in place to do it even if Zebra can.
20:00 jcamins I'm not sure. I think Zebra can handle them.
20:00 rangi That would be cool
20:00 rangi Can we do checkpoints?
19:58 jcamins In hindsight I should've switched to a smaller database for this next part.
19:58 jcamins Yeah, I know.
19:58 * wizzyrea gets out the evil
19:57 wizzyrea it's going to die on bib 599999 of 600k
19:57 wizzyrea nope.
19:57 jcamins Is this reindex *ever* going to finish?
19:57 cait fredericd++ rangi++ and hi chris_n :)
19:56 jcamins fredericd++
19:56 jcamins rangi++
19:55 chris_n heh
19:55 chris_n fredericd++
19:55 chris_n fredericd__
19:55 chris_n rangi++
19:55 chris_n nice!
19:54 rangi Will pull them in and release today
19:54 rangi Yep
19:53 chris_n heya cait
19:53 * chris_n surmises that po files have been created
19:45 rangi fredericd++
19:36 jcamins I've come to the conclusion that the code will actually work, inaccurate documentation notwithstanding.
19:36 * cait sends cookies
19:35 jcamins cait: no.
19:35 cait jcamins: it's not something you wrote then?
19:28 * jcamins runs away screaming from C4::AuthoritiesMarc::GuessAuthId.
19:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7604 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken
19:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8077 critical, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , overdues with fines won't run
19:25 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7604 - Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken
19:25 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8077 - overdues with fines won't run
19:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #19: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/19/
19:24 jcamins I much prefer the speed of indexing authorities to the speed of indexing biblios.
19:24 * jcamins yawns and taps his toes impatiently.
19:03 Oak night guys
18:56 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0Â°C (6:00 AM NZST on May 22, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
18:56 rangi @wunder nzwn
18:40 wahanui http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/sponsors/ is, like, the website presentation
18:40 rangi http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/sponsors/
18:38 * libsysguy is trying to come up with a better schema for overduerules
18:38 rangi they do indeed
18:37 libsysguy for the record, calendars happen to really complex beasts
18:33 chris_n but then, its monday
18:32 chris_n lol
18:32 rangi typos--
18:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #19 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:32 rangi heh
18:32 rangi silent_failuers--
18:28 chris_n silent_failures--
18:28 * chris_n spent a half hour this morning troubleshooting why circulation would not only to find that having ceilingDueDate set to an historic date causes silent failures
18:27 chris_n rangi++
18:20 Oak everyone++
18:19 rangi right we just need the .po files and 3.8.1 is ready to go
18:16 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.5Â°C (11:15 AM PDT on May 21, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 15.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
18:15 bag @wunder 93109
17:59 jcamins Later.
17:59 jcamins nengard: nifty. I guess I should be putting the 3.6.5 ones up.
17:59 nengard jcamins: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/release_notes/release_notes_3_8_1.txt;h=e856ff81fc83648b367eaa8c0b9d552e70a30340;hb=ced8b3afea0f03e31d1e3e92390843703af14de9
17:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7704 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Master , Independent Branches sys pref change to let librarians choose which things to share
17:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8106 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , DataTables in Acquisision module: addorderiso2709.tt
17:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7604 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken
17:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8077 critical, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , overdues with fines won't run
17:55 jenkins_koha * meenakshi.r: Bug 7704 -Fix bug that prevent items to be returned to home branch, when independentbranches and canreservefromotherbranch sysprefs are both turned on.
17:55 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8106: DataTables integration in ACQ: addorderiso2709.tt
17:55 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7604 - Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken
17:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7175 enhancement, P2, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Improve order receiving page
17:55 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8077 - overdues with fines won't run
17:55 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7175: Allow to choose which items to receive
17:55 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7175: orderreceive.pl cosmetic changes
17:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #730: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/730/
17:52 jcamins Oh, apparently there is.
17:52 rangi yep there is, check the branch
17:51 nengard k
17:51 jcamins nengard: not to my knowledge.
17:46 nengard is there a working 3.8.1 release notes doc? Some way to see the bugs pushed - other than the git log?
17:45 jcamins gmcharlt: thanks.
17:44 gmcharlt jcamins: offhand, I can't think of any reason not to
17:41 jcamins Sorry, it probably helps when I provide context.
17:40 wahanui jcamins: that doesn't look right
17:40 jcamins Change it in C4::Matcher.
17:40 jcamins (and explicitly scope the calls into C4::Search)
17:40 jcamins gmcharlt: do you know of any reason I couldn't change use C4::Search into require C4::Search?
17:35 Oak me go dinner time. bbl.
17:34 Oak kidding
17:34 Oak :) never mind
17:34 Oak so tell me what happened?
17:34 Oak understood.
17:33 cait don't ask ;)
17:31 Oak how was your day cait ?
17:31 Oak thanks!
17:31 Oak cool.
17:31 cait hi Oak :)
17:31 Oak Guten abend cait
17:31 jcamins Oak: at the moment, it can't be. eythian and I will be setting it up so that there will be an oldstable option which will get 3.6.5.
17:30 Oak guys, if someone does apt-get install koha-common he/she will get 3.8 installed. what if we want to install 3.6.4 for some reason using Debian packages? how will that be done?
17:20 Oak Happy Birthday rangi :o)
17:20 jcamins I think you did, yes.
17:20 cait and did I get the nick right? hm.
17:20 cait perhaps we could get semarie to comment too?
17:20 cait I read it - makes sense to me
17:20 Oak kia ora #koha
17:19 jcamins Yeah. I outlined what I thought would be necessary to make a plugin system sufficiently secure to be a candidate for inclusion.
17:16 cait security being the biggest concern
17:16 jcamins Agreed.
17:16 cait I think this is a difficult one ot get right
17:16 cait ah, yes
17:16 jcamins cait: I commented on that one so that my concerns are recorded somewhere.
17:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7804 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add Koha Plugin System
17:04 cait bug 7804
17:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #730 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7704 -Fix bug that prevent items to be returned to home branch, when independentb... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=804b073a8274d9f719ef746d74198ade735dc620> / Bug 8106: DataTables integration in ACQ: addorderiso2709.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d99666f5020aff0806bcfaa438f926a8d94e9621> / Bug 7604 - Link on basket group name for closed basket group
16:35 gaetan_B1 bye !
16:33 chris_n paul_p: thanks
16:32 chris_n sorry... syntax
16:32 paul_p chris_n = there are 40 patches waiting for QA, many/most of them having a good reason to be applied. I'll take care of it ASAP, but I hope other QA members will do first ! (thanks for your email to them)
16:32 chris_n heh
16:32 jcamins jcamins', too. :P
16:32 chris_n and jacamins for that matter as well
16:31 chris_n I have addressed all of jonathan's concerns as well as oleonards
16:31 chris_n and takes very little time to QA
16:31 jcamins In fact, it touches no core functionality at all.
16:31 chris_n paul_p: it is really very simple
16:31 chris_n ^^
16:30 jcamins It touches very little in the way of core functionality, so it's pretty safe.
16:30 chris_n I have no plans to keep it rebased beyond the next month
16:29 chris_n paul_p: it is hard to keep rebased (to echo a very common refrain)
16:29 paul_p chris_n = is there something urgent with this patch ? (more than a bugfix, or an old-timer ENH ?)
16:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Signed Off , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage
16:28 paul_p chris_n wow ... bug 7977 is a huge patch to QA ! I understand why jonathan suggested another QA.
16:11 clrh bye
16:05 huginn jcamins: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011)
16:05 jcamins @quote get 135
16:05 huginn jcamins: 2 found: #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} -..." and #82: "<pianohack> nengard: If you were using a..."
16:05 jcamins @quote search typo
15:56 jcamins Hm. If I create C4::Heading::new_from_auth_field() I should be able to use that in C4::Matcher.
15:56 gmcharlt but other than that, it's essentially nearly ready to handle authorities
15:55 gmcharlt second would likely be the need for some additional work to create NACO-normalized headings for matching
15:55 gmcharlt first is a couple minor bits that refer only to biblio database tables
15:54 gmcharlt jcamins: yes, with two exceptions
15:53 jcamins gmcharlt: my reading of the POD for C4::Matcher is that it already would support match points for authorities. Does that match your recollection?
15:47 jcamins More than ten minutes were devoted to searching, of course.
15:46 jcamins In the 16 minute run, more than 2 minutes were devoted to parsing XML.
15:44 jcamins Reading MARCXML files is *slow*.
15:43 jcamins *bib,
15:42 jcamins You know what could benefit from caching? serialized authority, and even bib records.
15:42 libsysguy gracias jcamins
15:41 jcamins That was on 10k bibs.
15:41 jcamins Nice! Cache statistics (hit/miss): 15769/27352
15:40 jcamins libsysguy: see the last link.
15:40 jcamins sample data is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Free_sample_MARC_data
15:38 wahanui jcamins: i don't know
15:38 jcamins wahanui: ?
15:38 jcamins sample data?
15:22 * jcamins runs it on 10k bibs.
15:21 jcamins Cache statistics on the heading flipper for 1000 bibs: 536 hits/3246 misses
15:05 reiveune bye
15:05 clrh and I add it in google doc
15:05 clrh ok jcamins thanks, I told Julian to look at it again
15:03 clrh great jcamins I found internal reference
15:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5888 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , opac-detail subject/author links improvements
15:02 jcamins clrh: I just found the bug in Bugzilla. I just did a search in my e-mail and was able to find it. :) Bug 5888.
15:00 oleonard julian_m++
15:00 oleonard I resubmitted and julian_m submitted a couple of follow-ups
15:00 jcamins I will try to sign off when I get a chance.
14:59 jcamins Ah.
14:59 oleonard jcamins: You did, but then there was an objection to that version of the patch
14:59 jcamins oleonard: didn't I sign off on that?
14:59 * oleonard shakes huginn awake
14:58 jcamins Bug 4048
14:58 * oleonard is reaching bribing stage on Bug 4048
14:55 clrh it should be here: https://docs.google.com/a/biblibre.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuZF5Y_c4pIxdHE3S0RXMjJqSzZ3d1BVUmxpRnRVUUE#gid=0 and if not, I'll add it
14:54 jcamins There was talk about integrating it into 3.6, but there wasn't time.
14:54 jcamins Thank you.
14:54 clrh I'll try to find you the reference ;)
14:53 libsysguy more of a curious poke oleonard...I didn't really have anything in mind
14:53 clrh ok I see it is a feature sponsored by a customer
14:53 jcamins clrh: there may actually be a bug in Bugzilla for it, but I can't seem to find it right now.
14:53 jcamins Yes.
14:53 jcamins clrh: do you know if the code for that is in a branch somewhere?
14:53 oleonard Why do you ask libsysguy?
14:53 libsysguy ok thanks oleonard
14:52 oleonard libsysguy: If you see one you want to do, do it. No one is going through systematically
14:52 oleonard libsysguy: It's all on a case by case basis.
14:51 libsysguy heh true story oleonard...I suppose just form submission in general, adding, deleting, etc
14:51 clrh jcamins: you are talking about demo of "biblibre solr version" ?
14:51 oleonard libsysguy: I suppose the answer is yes, but that's a very broad question given the very different kinds of uses covered by "done with ajax"
14:50 jcamins clrh: your solr demo has a really cool feature with subject tracings, where you click the tracing and it lets you choose which terms to search for.
14:50 clrh a bit busy but here
14:50 clrh yep jcamins
14:50 libsysguy oleonard is that something that we were thinking about moving toward?
14:49 jcamins clrh: around?
14:49 oleonard Not many
14:49 libsysguy i mean a rough estimate or percentage
14:49 libsysguy oleonard how many of the forms in koha are done with ajax?
14:33 jcamins Yeah.
14:33 oleonard So safe to delete after installation?
14:33 jcamins make install copies files from there to where they belong.
14:33 jcamins It's created by make.
14:33 jcamins oleonard: it's from installation.
14:32 oleonard What is the "blib" directory and where did it come from?
14:29 * chris_n notes that that does not seem to be the pattern
14:29 Joubu I don't know why
14:29 Joubu oleonard: Yes, but it failed. However julian_m can apply it...
14:29 chris_n it seems to me that the QA member passing a given patch should sign off on it
14:27 jcamins schuster: I think you'd been asking about heading flipping. You'll be glad to know that a heading flipper script is in process.
14:26 oleonard Joubu: I have tried again. Thanks for your patience.
14:26 jcamins It's a pretty cool performance improvement.
14:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should use CHI caching framework
14:26 jcamins Bug 8092 could do with some QAing.
14:25 * jcamins looks around for members of the QA team.
14:25 schuster Heyo...
14:25 magnuse isn't the image supposed to be in the patch, in some kind of encoding?
14:25 jcamins oleonard: well, I'm out of ideas.
14:23 oleonard Nope
14:23 jcamins oleonard: did you forget git add?
14:23 oleonard Weird, git bz seems to be leaving out the image file when it attaches the patch...
14:22 jcamins Good morning, schuster.
14:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should use CHI caching framework
14:20 jcamins Bug 8092.
14:17 oleonard Joubu: But the new patch doesn't even apply?
14:17 oleonard Sorry Joubu I was away from my desk. You're right about the image being missing.
14:17 wizzyrea hehe
14:15 wahanui chris_n: i don't know
14:15 chris_n wahanui: can't you say anything else about wizzyrea?
14:14 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE
14:14 chris_n heya wizzyrea
14:14 * magnuse waves back
14:14 * wizzyrea waves
14:09 chris_n Joubu: thanks
14:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
14:05 Joubu oleonard: the patch you proposed (Bug 7500) does not apply (have you rebased on current master ?). And it seems you forgot to add social-sprite.png
14:03 kf although currently it's not working on my computer, only for my coworker
14:03 kf there is a seamless mode for virtualbox too
14:00 libsysguy well I had it installed but the seamless mode in parallels was so nice
13:58 jcamins libsysguy: VirtualBox actually works really well on Macs.
13:56 anjoze My problem is the displayed results... they are not in the same correct order :(
13:55 anjoze I'm wondering if some one could help me with Zebra Unimarc configurations
13:54 anjoze Hi everybody.
13:53 Oak oleonard++
13:53 libsysguy but I think its mac only :-/
13:53 Oak rangi++
13:52 * libsysguy uses parallels
13:52 * jcamins too.
13:52 * kf wishes virtualbox wold start cooperatiing
13:52 kf yep rangi++
13:52 oleonard rangi++ # for lots of signoffs during my weekend
13:50 Joubu it is a big patch :)
13:49 Joubu chris_n: I don't passed QA this patch. I think a second "passed qa" is better.
13:48 Oak cool. okay.
13:48 jcamins Oak: it depends on your users.
13:47 chris_n Joubu: could you update 7977 status please :-)
13:47 Oak so i asked... anyway. never mind.
13:47 Oak jcamins, I jsut saw cait's https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/ and they don't show it.
13:47 jcamins Now to use the super-awesome Koha::Cache...
13:47 chris_n Joubu: hi
13:47 libsysguy *fist pump*
13:47 Joubu Hi all
13:47 Oak jcamins++
13:46 Oak heading flipper \o/
13:46 jcamins The heading flipper worked!
13:46 * jcamins cheers
13:46 jcamins Oak: I don't see why.
13:46 Oak should I hide "MARC View" from the OPAC?
13:41 * chris_n wonders if "bug" includes all possible metaphorical implications of the term
13:41 Oak understood.
13:40 paul_p jcamins = jonathan work 3 days a week from his home, and 2 days in BibLibre office (thu-fri), so he's not here today ;-)
13:40 Oak jcamins, thank you thank you!
13:40 chris_n tnx
13:40 paul_p chris_n ok, will check/do
13:40 chris_n if there are further questions, perhaps setting the status to "In Discussion" would be good and then starting that discussion
13:39 chris_n paul_p: I posted a comment requesting the status be set to accurately reflect the current status of the bug; I'd be grateful if you could pass that along as well
13:37 * jcamins sees someone who works in the same office as Jonathan. ;)
13:37 * chris_n looks around for jonathan
13:34 paul_p chris_n, yes, I don't know why he hasn't set the status
13:34 chris_n is that enough
13:34 chris_n so jonathan says "I think these patchs can be passed QA."
13:34 paul_p chris_n = just one !
13:33 chris_n paul_p: how many QA members are required to QA before a bug is considered passing QA?
13:33 chris_n qa@k-c.org
13:33 paul_p chris_n definetly yes !
13:32 chris_n ie
13:32 chris_n paul_p: maybe an email alias for the QA team would be nice :-)
13:32 paul_p chris_n = but i'm not alone in the QA team, so you can also bug mason, jonathan, ian and marcel ;-)
13:32 paul_p chris_n = to un-stuck bug 7977, the best option is to bug the QA team, there are 40 bugs waiting for QA. I had hard times recently, things should be better next week (and this week I should be able to dedicate at least one day to QA/push)
13:30 paul_p hello #koha
13:30 oleonard Hi #koha
13:30 chris_n hi oleonard
13:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Signed Off , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage
13:29 chris_n paul_p: what needs to be done to get bug 7977 un-stuck from QA?
13:25 Oak thank you jcamins :) me on phone hang on
13:24 jcamins =250 ##$aThird edition
13:24 jcamins =245 10$aBusines statistics :$ba first course /$cDavid M. Levine, Timothy C. Krehbiel, Mark L. Berenson
13:23 Oak Business Statistics: [new line] A First Course [new line] Third Edition [new line] David M. Levine [new line] Timothy C. Krehbiel [new line] Mark L. Berenson
13:22 Oak okay :)
13:22 jcamins Oak: yes.
13:21 * chris_n digs out of the inbox :-P
13:13 Oak i went and fetch me a book. should i write what's on the title page?
13:11 kf Oak: you use 245$c for the authors as listed on the book and put the nice names in 1xx 7xx fields
13:11 Oak hmm.
13:11 jcamins Oak: you just transcribe.
13:10 Oak hmm... let me dig more
13:10 Oak and when there are three authors or two authors?
13:10 Oak "When more than 3 authors have the same function, give only the first name followed by [et al.]"
13:04 kf jcamins++
13:04 Oak jcamins++
13:04 libsysguy sweet!
13:03 jcamins 3.6.5 will be coming out Thursdayish.
13:03 jcamins Think so.
13:03 libsysguy is 3.8.1 supposed to release this week?
13:02 jcamins Also, you should read this: http://www.loc.gov/marc/umb/
13:02 Oak thank you!
13:02 Oak okay got it. will do that now...
13:02 jcamins You should read an introduction to AACR2.
13:01 jcamins You then use 100 and 700 fields for authority-controlled forms.
13:01 jcamins In 245$c you transcribe *exactly* what it says on the title page.
13:01 jcamins In 245$c.
13:01 Oak but when a book has multiple authors where do we put them?
13:00 jcamins Oak: not repeatable.
13:00 Oak jcamins, what about 245$c? Author name...
13:00 Oak Good Morning chris_n
12:59 Oak hmm.
12:59 jcamins Good morning.
12:59 jcamins There are exceptions, where the standards changed, or where the developer made a mistake, but generally speaking, what is in the default framework is accurate.
12:58 chris_n g'morning
12:58 jcamins Generally.
12:58 Oak jcamins, the fields that are set as not repeatable by default in Koha are they *actually* not repeatable as a rule?
12:51 zioha Allah Hafiz
12:51 Oak Allah hafiz.
12:51 zioha okay by
12:51 Oak okay good.
12:51 zioha i shall be back at 10:00 PM
12:51 Oak okay. later.
12:50 zioha now i am going to my take class
12:50 zioha oooooKay
12:49 zioha thanks
12:49 Oak :) dinner confirmed.
12:49 zioha lol
12:49 Oak \o/
12:49 zioha it works
12:49 zioha yes
12:48 Oak does it work now?
12:47 zioha thanks jcamins and Oak
12:47 jcamins Then restart Apache.
12:47 Oak :)
12:47 Oak and add Listen 8080
12:47 jcamins Add the line "Listen 8080"
12:47 jcamins Open up /etc/apache2/ports.conf
12:47 jcamins zioha: you need to tell Apache to listen on port 8080.
12:46 zioha unable to connect
12:45 zioha 1 minute
12:45 Oak and when you type localhost:8080 what does it show?
12:44 Oak when I showed the OPAC to my boss, he said it looks more about Koha and less about the library itself... and pointed out many things that needs to be done in the OPAC...
12:44 zioha the koha online catalog is offline .... site administrator
12:43 zioha "system maintenance"
12:43 zioha when i type in browser "localhost"
12:42 zioha Oak it show message "site default already disabled"
12:42 wahanui morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
12:42 jcamins Morning.
12:42 kf hi jcamins :)
12:39 Oak done :) Thank you!
12:38 jcamins Yes.
12:37 Oak so i should make it not-repeatable like it was by default?
12:36 jcamins_away Oak: 650$a is not repeatedable.
12:36 Oak my ping reply is 28 seconds :(
12:36 Oak let us know
12:34 zioha thanks
12:34 zioha ok
12:34 Oak zioha, try what magnuse said.
12:34 Oak yup
12:34 Oak a2dissite default
12:34 magnuse "sudo a2dissite default" then "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload"
12:33 magnuse sounds like zioha needs to get rid of the default site
12:33 Oak :) how do we run the web installer ?
12:32 magnuse somewhat :-)
12:32 kf Oak++
12:32 Oak magnuse around?
12:32 zioha only
12:32 zioha it says "it works"
12:31 zioha yes
12:31 zioha i have typed "localhost:8080" but web installer is not showing anything
12:31 Oak it still says "It Works"?
12:31 zioha it is not working
12:30 zioha yes
12:30 Oak yes sure
12:30 zioha it's about web installer
12:30 Oak Internet is not working here properly... I may disappear
12:30 zioha i have a question for you
12:30 Oak :)
12:30 Oak zioha
12:30 zioha oak
11:07 * magnuse waves
10:57 * kf waves
10:13 Oak now me go and take my laptop to management sciences library... be back in a bit.
10:11 eythian_ np
10:07 Oak and good tip... about two different links... yes makes perfect sense. Thank you!
10:07 Oak ooh that was easy. done :) http://koha-library.uaar.edu.pk/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=2
10:06 eythian_ if you have two 650s, it becomes two different links
10:05 Oak i see.
10:05 eythian_ Repeating $a means that it doesn't really count, it's just informational (according to that record, anyway)
10:05 Oak hmm. let me see how to do that.
10:04 eythian_ Oak: I think it's better to create new 650 fields rather than new 650$a
10:01 Oak now will fix other records... when I'm home.
10:00 Oak eythian, made change to my MARC framework, and fixed this record: http://koha-library.uaar.edu.pk/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=2
09:57 * eythian_ is not a designer
09:57 Oak yup :)
09:57 eythian_ It stands out nicely
09:57 eythian_ I probably would have made the search button blue, but I think green works better actually.
09:57 Oak yup. Thanks to you.
09:56 eythian_ that looks better, now the buttons look similar
09:55 Oak eythian, done :)
09:52 Oak :) okay.
09:51 eythian_ Yeah, I'd say make them look the same, whichever way you go with that is up to you :)
09:50 Oak eythian, now the Search button's color is changed... should I get rid of the border and shadow? adding border to the Card button may be tricky...
09:39 * eythian_ notes that unity's alt-tab has "show desktop" as one of it's entries. That explains by all my windows vanished earlier.
09:34 Oak let me fix that "Search" button now... next is splitting the 650.
09:33 Oak cool, got it. that makes sense.
09:33 Oak ah
09:33 eythian_ yeah that :)
09:33 eythian_ no, by having a separate 650 entry for each subject.
09:33 Oak or duplicating that field?
09:33 Oak by putting a -- between them?
09:32 Oak hmm. how do we do that?
09:32 eythian_ that way it's two subjects, not one that's both of them
09:31 eythian_ Oak: your 650 subject entries should be split up, e.g. on this record: http://koha-library.uaar.edu.pk/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=2
09:30 eythian_ cool
09:29 Oak Recent Comments included...
09:27 magnuse yay, i like it - i think the default can get a little bit small
09:27 Oak eythian, hmmm. let me do that now
09:27 Oak yup magnuse
09:26 magnuse did you increase the general font size a little bit?
09:26 eythian_ Oh, our libraries are liking the "recent comments" stuff, if you want people to comment, it may be good to turn that on.
09:26 Oak thank you thank you!
09:25 Oak hmm. okay got it.
09:25 magnuse yeah, that looks good!
09:25 eythian_ Doesn't matter, more that it's a different style so it looks a bit out of place
09:25 Oak :) yay. cool. that means so much to me.
09:24 Oak which one, green one or blue one?
09:24 Oak that would look nicer
09:24 Oak hmmm
09:24 eythian_ I like the search bar gradient
09:24 eythian_ Oak: that looks pretty good (though I'd make the "search" button look like the cart/list buttons)
09:23 Oak magnuse will you have a look please?
09:23 Oak http://koha-library.uaar.edu.pk/
09:23 Oak my MLIS project Koha library became publicly accessible \o/
09:22 eythian_ My bullet points are the Koha logo, that must be good for a presentation :)
09:22 magnuse Oak
09:22 Oak magnuse
09:22 Oak rangi around?
09:18 wahanui cait-m is on a train :-)
09:18 Oak cait-m!!
09:13 magnuse ah, i see (not)
09:11 eythian_ No! That's why it's so confusing!
09:10 magnuse eythian_: heh! going to tokyo?
09:07 eythian_ it's very confusing
09:07 eythian_ "What? Am I in tokyo?!"
09:06 eythian_ Hmm, I'd forget where I was.
09:06 magnuse eythian: try doing your presentation without slides?
09:06 eythian_ It's my only explanation too
09:05 magnuse eythian: a masochistic streak? ;-)
09:05 eythian_ Don't know why I keep volunteering for it
09:05 * eythian_ hates writing presentation slides
09:05 eythian_ hello
09:04 eythian_ that's the purpose of an heir
09:04 kf hi eythian
09:04 kf ?
09:04 eythian_ Someone needs to have the empire passed on to them.
08:59 kf :)
08:57 magnuse yeah?
08:57 kf son and heir? :)
08:57 magnuse no more travelling until after the son and heir is born...
08:55 magnuse hdl: sadly not
08:49 hdl magnuse: are you at ELAG ?
08:29 magnuse ;-)
08:28 rangi heh
08:28 magnuse 1 minute of silence for MARC at ELAG2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1EL76yfeVs
07:46 mib_bhihwn hello i am yogesh nashik
07:46 magnuse hey, happy birthday rangi! w00t!
07:46 kmkale11 happy birthday chris :)
07:40 kmkale bye all
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07:34 magnuse @wunder pune, india
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07:34 magnuse @wunder boo
07:34 magnuse good! the sun is shining!
07:31 kmkale how r things?
07:31 kmkale hi magnuse
07:31 kmkale hi rangi
07:28 rangi hi from new zealand
07:28 magnuse greetings from norway!
07:28 magnuse hiya Symbiosis
07:27 kmkale HI from Symbiosis
07:27 kmkale :)
07:27 kmkale All participants are watching this on a screen and want to say Hi tp the Koha Community
07:26 kmkale Hi all I am conducting a Koha workshop in Symbiosis university at Pune India.
07:15 samuel hi everybody :-)
07:09 wahanui hello, asaurat
07:09 asaurat hi
07:03 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B
07:02 gaetan_B hello !
07:00 magnuse kia ora #koha!
06:59 julian_m hi all
06:56 alex_a bonjour koha
06:49 cait hi francharb and reiveune :)
06:46 wahanui privet, reiveune
06:46 reiveune hello
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02:01 druthb o/
00:02 jcamins No, it was an eggplant.
00:02 jcamins lol
00:02 ibeardslee .. it was a bit funnier in my head
00:01 ibeardslee probably more likely that one from over there would be thermonuclear
00:00 eythian I don't think the US does real pies, does it?