Time Nick Message 00:14 * jcamins gazes in befuddlement at the subroutine he just discovered in C4::Circulation. sub TooMany. 00:20 rangi heh there be dragons 00:21 rangi i think about 50 ppl have poked at that 00:21 jcamins And did anyone ever figure out what the sub's name referred to? 00:22 jcamins Myshkin suggests it's the number of times I try to use my computer when he's waiting for petting. 00:26 jcamins GetRecordValue = a sub to use to get something that is neither a value nor part of a record 00:34 rangi i think toomany issues of a given item 00:34 rangi is what it used to do 00:35 jcamins Thankfully that's not code I need to look at, but I'm a little perplexed by what "too many issues" means. 00:49 rangi checkouts in your parlance :) 00:55 jcamins rangi: I know what you mean by issues. 00:55 jcamins What I'm not sure of is too many in what context. 00:56 jcamins The item has been issued too many times, historically? The book has been issued too many times without being discharged? 00:58 jcamins Oh. 00:59 jcamins I'm tearing my hair out wondering why I keep on getting an error from MARC::Field::update. 00:59 jcamins It would be because there is no 942 field. 01:17 jcamins My favorite comment that I've seen today: # Otherwise, it'd need a POD. 01:19 jcamins The comment, by the way, is inaccurate. 01:19 jcamins POD is very much required. 01:47 rangi jcamins: this borrower has too many current issues of this type 01:49 jcamins rangi: ah. 01:49 jcamins Thanks. 02:53 jcamins_away git_hooks++ 04:37 Oak kia ora #koha 04:39 cait hi #koha 04:40 Oak hello cait :) 04:41 cait hi Oak 10:24 Oak \o 11:13 vfernandes guys one question... how it works the Koha Offline application? 11:15 eythian_home vfernandes: there was some documentation about that that was sent to the Koha list just a few days ago, if you have a look in the list archives you should be able to find it. 11:18 vfernandes ok... but what is the structure of one KOC file 11:20 eythian_home I don't know. Probably creating one and looking at it is your best bet. 11:24 vfernandes humm ok 12:25 oleonard Hi everyone 12:27 kf hi oleonard :) 12:27 kf very quiet day today 12:28 oleonard Quiet week 12:31 kf hm only on #koha 12:54 * oleonard thinks he'll bug fix again today. It's just too much fun. 12:56 kf don't tempt me! :) 12:57 * oleonard throws his arms in the air and shouts Wheeeeeeee!! 12:57 kf meany 12:57 * sekjal has just written his first patch for a Dokuwiki plugin... not as much fun as patching Koha, to be sure 12:57 oleonard Why not sekjal? 12:58 sekjal I've gotten used to Perl... going back to PHP is less exciting for me 12:58 sekjal also, the feature I just added is... very very limited 12:58 sekjal not even necessarily a good idea 12:58 oleonard :) 13:09 kf sekjal: now I am curious :) 13:09 sekjal kf: there is a plugin for Dokuwiki that will reformat a date string into "XX days since|until <somemessage>" 13:10 sekjal it's called Countdown 13:10 sekjal my feature is to just display the XX part, so you can do other math on the result 13:10 kf ah :) 13:10 kf sound snot too bad of a feature 13:11 kf I mean, doesn't sound like a bad idea :) 13:12 sekjal my first pass at it doesn't handle units other than days very well... 13:12 sekjal not sure if it's worth fixing or not 13:12 sekjal mostly I just want a way to highlight things that are going to expire "soon" 13:21 kf Oak++ 13:23 oleonard ? 13:25 kf nice mail 13:33 jcamins_away @later tell druthb See you June 4 in Kansas City! :D 13:33 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. 14:03 oleonard addbooks.pl requires "edit_catalogue" permission, but the template checks for "CAN_user_editcatalogue_edit_catalogue" in a couple of places. Is it just me or is that nonsensical? 14:03 oleonard If you "CAN'T_user_editcatalogue_edit_catalogue" you can't get to the page! 14:04 oleonard the follow-up question is: Shouldn't you be able to get to that page if you have edit_items permission? 14:06 hdl1 oleonard: druth: jcamins_away: is there any cronjob to regularly update/create patrons from an LDAP in the koha version ? Has there ever been any need for that ? We had... But we may be quite 14:07 hdl1 unusual 14:07 * oleonard has no idea. 14:07 oleonard druthb I think is traveling back home today 14:08 oleonard Seems logical to me though 14:09 sekjal hdl1: would this be to pre-populate the Koha DB with users from the LDAP, before their first login to the OPAC? 14:11 hdl1 sekjal: yep 14:11 hdl1 or to update accounts from LDAP regularly... 14:12 sekjal wouldn't work with auth_by_bind, since you wouldn't have the account passwords. 14:12 sekjal but if that's not a problem, I think it could be a pretty handy feature 14:12 sekjal I recall folks asking for something like that back in my support-vendor days 14:13 wizzyrea oleonard: I think the syspref is like, "asking a question" - can the user editcatalogue (major permission group) Edit the Catalogue (minor permission) 14:14 hdl1 sekjal: all you would need is a user with read access. 14:14 hdl1 iirc we have that working with an auth_by_bind 14:15 oleonard I don't understand what you're getting at wizzyrea 14:15 kf oleonard++ 14:16 sekjal hdl1: it's possible, if the LDAP had such a user. my experience tends to be with Active Directory connections, which don't like doing that 14:16 wizzyrea it's ok, i'm probably not making sense. 14:17 wizzyrea also, good morning 14:18 hdl1 mmm could be. 14:19 oleonard Am I correct that this syntax will give access to users with either one or the other permission? 14:19 oleonard flagsrequired => { editcatalogue => 'edit_catalogue', editcatalogue => 'edit_items' }, 14:19 oleonard Seems to be the case based on my test but I wanted to make sure 14:28 oleonard Or does that require both? 14:28 hdl sekjal: bug 8123 14:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8123 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , cronjob to pre-populate/Update patrons from ldap data 14:29 hdl if of some interest 14:29 sekjal hdl: cool 14:32 oleonard Or maybe it only requires the second one :P 15:03 reiveune bye 15:28 oleonard wizzyrea still around? 15:29 wizzyrea yessir 15:29 oleonard Did you figure out what you needed to know about putting an item edit link on the detail page? 15:30 oleonard Seems like a reasonable idea to me 15:30 wizzyrea well mostly I just didn't want to go to the trouble of doing it if you thought it was not a good idea. 15:31 wizzyrea but yes, I think I did. :) 15:31 * oleonard wonders if we shouldn't go ahead and put both edit and delete links? 15:32 wizzyrea well... 15:38 oleonard welllllll... 15:41 wizzyrea I suppose you could want to delete from that page too 15:41 wizzyrea if we had the in-table editing thinger we could get rid of additem.pl altogether. 15:42 wizzyrea well, the editing and deleting portions of it anyway 16:02 datadoctor @wunderground Kent, OH 16:02 huginn datadoctor: I suck 16:02 datadoctor oops wrong code 16:03 datadoctor It's the most beautiful day here - what am I doing in a windowless office? 16:03 datadoctor ...Looking at code... 16:04 kf you have a windowless office? :( 16:04 kf @wunder Konstanz 16:04 huginn kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 16.0°C (6:00 PM CEST on May 18, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). 16:04 * kf is sitting right nedt to the open window 16:04 datadoctor I do like having an office... 16:04 datadoctor @wunder Kent, OH 16:04 huginn datadoctor: The current temperature in Kent State Geography, Kent, Ohio is 23.6°C (12:03 PM EDT on May 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 16:05 datadoctor Luckily I get called out to solve computer problems, so I circulate through the whole library. 16:05 oleonard http://buttersafe.com/2012/05/17/swimsuit-season/ 16:05 datadoctor Our resident artist, Lori, just painted a beautiful moonscape on the window for the Children's department, with astronauts and space creatures. 16:44 bag @wunder 93109 16:44 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.1°C (9:44 AM PDT on May 18, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 am PDT Saturday... 16:45 oleonard Hi ByWaterians 16:46 * kf waves 16:46 wizzyrea datadoctor ooh! picture? 16:51 bag heh hi :P 16:58 * oleonard welcomes wizzyrea to the patch party 16:58 wizzyrea there was a patch party? 16:58 wizzyrea s/was/is 16:58 oleonard Admission: one patch. 16:58 wizzyrea :D 16:58 * wizzyrea has quite a few of those already 16:59 wizzyrea but not today, necessarily 16:59 wizzyrea guess I should send that to the list too 17:09 Oak kia ora #koha 17:09 Oak time to go home kf 17:09 kf you are right Oak :) 17:09 Oak pack up 17:09 Oak :) 17:09 kf in 2 minutes 17:10 kf waitng for this import to finish 17:10 Oak okay fine. 2 minutes. 17:10 Oak :) 18:01 cait slef: around? 18:11 jcamins kyleh: I saw your changes to the plugins code. 18:12 jcamins The unzipping looks better. 18:16 jcamins kyleh: I'm still concerned about +Exec in the plugins directory, and the fact that using plugins doesn't require *both* a configuration setting in koha-conf.xml (defaulting to off) and a syspref. 18:17 jcamins kyleh: I didn't mention this yesterday, but an additional issue from a security point of view is that there's no way to disable uploading from the client and still enable plugins. That should be possible from koha-conf.xml. 18:20 jcamins melia: well, at least you're getting feedback on the bug, even if a sign off is not yet forthcoming, right? 18:20 jcamins :) 18:20 melia yes, definitely! 18:44 jcamins wizzyrea: while you're adding a floating menu, add a "clone" button. 18:44 jcamins :) 18:55 kyleh jcamins: I can add a setting in koha-conf.xml, I'm not sure what we can do about the +Exec, isn't it required for apache to be able to run the perl scripts? 18:55 jcamins kyleh: right, that's why I think the thing to do is use Module::Load::Conditional. 18:56 kyleh jcamins: I still don't grok that module, any chance you'd want to write a followup to mine ; ) 18:56 kyleh does anyone know what saved_sql.cache_expiry does? 18:57 jcamins kyleh: yes, it sets when the cached report expires. 18:57 jcamins kyleh: I'm not sure why it's not allowed to be NULL, because it definitely was allowed to be NULL in the patch I did. 18:57 kyleh it's an int(11), can't be null. In master you cannot save an sql report as it cannot be null. 18:58 jcamins kyleh: right, I mean, there's no reason it shouldn't be allowed to be NULL. 18:58 kyleh should I just patch it to allow it to be null then? 18:58 jcamins kyleh: yes. 18:58 kyleh will do! 18:59 jcamins kyleh: another option would be to set it to 0, but, as I said, that shouldn't be necessary. 18:59 jcamins I guess option C is to do both, so we can be double-sure. ;) 18:59 kyleh setting to 0 would bypass the need for a db rev, I think I'll go with that. 19:00 jcamins kyleh: good point. That's my favorite option too now that you mention it. 19:05 kyleh bug 8128 patch submitted 19:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8128 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , can't seem to run new sql reports 19:05 jcamins If cait doesn't have a chance, I'll sign off when I get a chance (probably not until tomorrow, alas). 19:06 cait not sure I can... accounting 19:06 cait *sigh* 19:08 jcamins Right, cait _definitely_ can't sign off. 19:08 jcamins If neither nengard nor magnuse get to it before I do, I'll sign off on it. 19:34 nengard_lunch jcamins i can sign off but it won't count 19:34 * wizzyrea might get to that right now 19:34 jcamins Even better, we can delegate to wizzyrea. :) 19:35 nengard i signed off 19:35 nengard you can sign off on mine 19:38 wizzyrea yup, assuming it passes tests, i'm done testing 19:38 wizzyrea works a treat. 19:38 wizzyrea passes *automated tests 19:54 sekjal happy weekend, everyone! 22:35 druthb o/