Time  Nick           Message
00:46 * chris_n      runs away screaming after seeing "Search.pm" in the buffer
01:00 chris_n        jcamins: if you have a moment to sign-off, I attached a followup to 7977 addressing Jonathan's QA issues
01:01 * chris_n      could not locate the font changes he mentioned, however
01:02 jcamins        chris_n: will do.
01:08 jcamins        chris_n: just one patch?
01:08 chris_n        yes
01:08 chris_n        the last
01:08 chris_n        "Followup...."
01:08 jcamins        Yep. Got it. :)
01:08 jcamins        I didn't realize it would be named so clearly.
01:09 chris_n        I grep'd for the font change he mentions, but could not find it in my repo
01:09 chris_n        maybe it something local to him
01:09 jcamins        Yeah, I'm not finding it either.
01:10 * chris_n      is digging his heals in on the back-tics :-)
01:10 chris_n        heels
01:10 jcamins        Hm.
01:10 jcamins        Wait, here it is.
01:11 chris_n        the suspense is killing
01:11 jcamins        opac.css
01:11 jcamins        #daily-quote
01:13 * chris_n      looks
01:13 chris_n        ahh
01:13 chris_n        I did not grep there :-)
01:14 chris_n        can you remove it and add it to that patch?
01:14 jcamins        Sure.
01:14 chris_n        tnx
01:15 jcamins        I see why that line was there.
01:16 chris_n        formatting?
01:16 jcamins        Yeah.
01:16 * chris_n      will run that font locally
01:16 jcamins        It's hideous sans serif.
01:16 chris_n        hehe
01:17 chris_n        those fonts are "web safe" I thought
01:17 jcamins        I think the objection was that there are no serif fonts anywhere else in Koha.
01:19 jcamins        Hm.
01:19 jcamins        Should saving a change take ages?
01:20 chris_n        not really
01:20 jcamins        It worked earlier today.
01:20 chris_n        well, folks can do whatever they like locally
01:21 jcamins        Okay, let me try removing this follow-up and see if saving works.
01:22 jcamins        Could you try editing a quote and see if it works?
01:22 chris_n        om
01:22 jcamins        Yeah, looks like there's a problem in quotes_ajax.pl.
01:23 chris_n        broken
01:23 * chris_n      looks
01:27 chris_n        hmm, missing id
01:27 jcamins        Odd.
01:27 jcamins        I wonder why it worked before.
01:27 jcamins        Because I did try it before signing off.
01:28 chris_n        I see the problem
01:28 rangi          chris_n: its a fair call, the file is in the mysql specific dir, there is a postgres dir, they can put a file in ther
01:28 rangi          since unless postgres suddenly switched to innodb
01:28 chris_n        my thoughts exactly
01:28 rangi          that file is never ever gonna work anyway
01:29 rangi          all we do is risk breaking it for mysql
01:29 jcamins        Or they could work at eliminating the .sql files entirely.
01:29 rangi          that is a better course of action
01:29 jcamins        DBIx::Class FTW
01:29 jcamins        Then I could run Koha with sqlite.
01:29 rangi          heh
01:34 chris_n        +1
01:34 chris_n        jcamins: working on the fix now
01:34 jcamins        Thanks.
01:47 chris_n        jcamins: ok, ditch that last patch and grab the new one
01:47 * chris_n      squashed away a few important lines of code :-P
01:49 jcamins        Yeah, that fixed it.
01:51 jcamins        Looks good.
01:52 chris_n        what was the name of that recording module you mentioned? Mechanize::something?
01:52 jcamins        The recorder is HTTP::Recorder.
01:52 * chris_n      considers writing test of the interface that way
01:52 jcamins        There's a script to set it up in release-tools.
01:52 chris_n        it would allow automated checks to catch bad squashes like that
02:09 * chris_n      crashes
03:21 jenkins_koha   Starting build #6 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:32 Amit_Gupta     heya bag
03:32 bag            heya Amit_Gupta
03:32 wahanui        hmmm... Amit_Gupta is from Nucsoft Osslabs
03:33 Amit_Gupta     heya wahanui
03:33 Amit_Gupta     wahanui: yes
03:33 wahanui        Amit_Gupta: i'm not following you...
03:34 Amit_Gupta     hmmm......
04:06 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.8.x build #6: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/6/
04:06 rangi          http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/6/checkstyleResult/?  <-- just added this
04:08 jenkins_koha   Starting build #7 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
04:41 cait           hi #koha
04:44 Amit_Gupta     heya cait
04:45 cait           hi Amit_Gupta
04:59 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.8.x build #7: UNSTABLE in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/7/
05:04 cait           hi connor_l_dewar
05:04 connor_l_dewar howdy
06:02 Amit_Gupta     exit
06:19 alex_a         bonjour
06:34 druthb         o/
07:00 reiveune       hello
07:00 wahanui        bonjour, reiveune
07:06 julian_m       hello
07:17 Oak            kia ora #koha
07:18 druthb         o/
07:19 clrh           hello
07:19 wahanui        hola, clrh
07:19 bag            morning druthb
07:19 druthb         hi, bag!
07:19 bag            :)
07:20 clrh           gmcharlt: erf it is not the right key I don't know from where it comes... I'll send you the mail with devs keys
07:24 clrh           gmcharlt: done, thanks
09:00 paul_p         good morning #koha
09:13 magnuse        kia ora paul_p
09:13 magnuse        and yay for Bug 7249!
09:13 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Report webservices
09:13 paul_p         hi magnuse
09:13 kf             hi #koha
09:13 magnuse        kia ora kf
09:13 kf             hi magnuse :)
09:13 paul_p         good morning kf !
09:13 kf             hi paul_p :)
09:15 * paul_p       hungry, and it's only 11AM...
09:15 magnuse        and yay for upgrading jquery too!
09:16 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5184 - Upgrade jQuery to the latest version (staff client) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1e3773e3b6bc83e4e7937b3c79c886770bc2c53> / Bug 7249 BDRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6337e7ea54d341dfc133d3f201442ab399a1d77> / bug 7249 follow-up, online help <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b80c50d98c967ded1e95a2f5043
09:18 kf             paul_p: have you seen there was some confusion about the patch for opac? (jquery update)?
09:18 vfernandes     hi guys
09:18 paul_p         kf not sure i see what you' re speaking of
09:18 kf             the jquery update :)
09:19 paul_p         kf yes, i've understood that. but not sure I see what you're speaking of about the patch for opac. This patch is only for staff
09:19 kf             paul_p: yep, check the comments
09:19 kf             http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5184
09:19 huginn         04Bug 5184: enhancement, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Upgrade jQuery to the latest version
09:20 kf             looks like some mistake in qa when reattaching the patches
09:20 jenkins_koha   Starting build #722 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:21 paul_p         ohhh !!! got it ! I misunderstood something, you're right.
09:21 kf             mtj reattached the opac patch but obsoleted it at the same time it seems
09:21 druthb         o/
09:21 kf             not sure if that means it hasn't passed qa
09:21 paul_p         i've seen we had 2 patches for staff, but failed to see that the same patch was here for OPAC & obsoleted by mistake !
09:21 kf             it seems quite small tho?
09:21 paul_p         kf yep, i'll QA it
09:21 kf             :)
09:21 vfernandes     i'm having a little problem with authority indexing... the heading (should have all 200 subfields) isn't correctly indexed... only contains subfield $a
09:26 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5184' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45c08ebd5d205906157eb2738cfb0d481b0a0e2c> / Bug 5184 [REVISED] Upgrade jQuery to the latest version (OPAC) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=806798dc66bd26f2d34feeb443b98bb160aaecaa> / Bug 6335 Set branch in sip session <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi
09:29 vfernandes     no one have idea how to solve my problem?
09:34 * magnuse      reminds paul_p gently that bug 7249 relies on bug 7248
09:34 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Report webservices
09:34 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Passed QA , Caching for services
09:34 slef           vfernandes: probably not without digging around in your authority records, Koha's code and your zebra.
09:36 paul_p         magnuse thx, 7248 is later on my pile (and 7249 works if you don't have memcache)
09:36 magnuse        paul_p: cool!
09:36 vfernandes     slef: i'm using yaz-client to query
09:36 kf             paul_p: but bit confusing perhaps, because you can give it caching time?
09:37 paul_p         kf = nope, because the field appear only if you've caching on ! (i've checked, because i was surprised not to see the caching time field when testing !!!)
09:37 kf             oh very cool :)
09:38 kf             jcamins++ and rangi++ for clever templates :)
09:38 vfernandes     look likes that Heading is only indexing 200$a because if i search values in those subfield it works fine
09:39 vfernandes     find @and @attr 1=authtype NP @attr 1=Heading @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 "Rosenzweig" -> 1 hit (200$a = Rosenzweig)
09:39 vfernandes     find @and @attr 1=authtype NP @attr 1=Heading @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 "Rosenzweig Serge" -> 0 hit (200$a = Rosenzweig   200$b = Serge)
09:39 slef           vfernandes: first things I would try is a full reindex of authorities, saving the exported auth data to look at with yaz-marcdump; then look at the zebra config and the koha code that sends it for indexing.
09:39 slef           vfernandes: but this may be more than we can do over IRC, sorry.
09:43 kf             does someone know who did the koha git twitter service? I think something must have changed since it was activated - because the links seem to be broken
09:43 magnuse        i think mtj talked about git and twitter
09:45 vfernandes     sleft: how i can save the auth data?
09:46 vfernandes     yaz-marcdump ... ?
09:46 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8048 - better spacing on categories for attributes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=db32e098d43f393ac4e62993f8989a7fe46f02ab> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5345' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e584ba169e3301182196e5aca66a32e0bcd229a9> / Bug 5345: DataTables integration in acquisition module [16] <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
09:51 vfernandes     slef: how i can save the auth data?
09:59 magnuse        paul_p: sorry for the nagging... i just pulled from git and tried to save an SQL report and even though the web UI says it was saved it does not show up in the list of saved reports, and i get this in the error log: "guided_reports.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Column 'cache_expiry' cannot be null". i did not see the "cache expiry" field when i saved the report...
10:08 paul_p         magnuse = there is an updatedatabase, that should put you to iirc (i'll check)
10:09 paul_p         it worked well for me, maybe I made a mistake when pushing ?
10:09 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #722: UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/722/
10:09 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 7500 - Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
10:09 jenkins_koha   * chrish: Bug 7249 : Allow reports to be called through a restful interface
10:09 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 7249: Syspref to control number of rows in web service results
10:09 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: bug 7249 follow-up, online help
10:09 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Bug 7249 BDRev number
10:09 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 5184 - Upgrade jQuery to the latest version (staff client)
10:09 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
10:09 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Report webservices
10:09 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Upgrade jQuery to the latest version
10:09 jenkins_koha   Starting build #723 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #721 3 days 12 hr ago)
10:10 kf             I wonder if it's somehting I missed - because I tested both patches together. So when the form hides the field it does not have a default value ... and explodes.
10:11 magnuse        i'm on
10:12 magnuse        i see this: my $usecache = C4::Context->preference('usecache'); in the code here: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=9351&action=diff
10:12 magnuse        but i don't have a pref called usecache
10:14 francharb      hi all
10:14 francharb      tiny question!
10:14 francharb      :)
10:14 paul_p         magnuse this syspref is in 7248, it's not related to your problem.
10:14 francharb      is there a specific set up for analytical recordss?
10:14 francharb      apart from the syspref
10:14 francharb      I have 2 install
10:15 francharb      same version installed
10:15 francharb      on the first one, the analytical records works
10:15 francharb      not on the second one
10:15 francharb      and i can"t see why...
10:15 francharb      once i created a analytical record
10:16 francharb      I don't have the like form the host item to the analytical record
10:16 francharb      Any idea where the problem come from?
10:18 paul_p         jenkins now unstable, but seing the message I think it's the sample database, not the pushed patches
10:19 kf             francharb: not sure about unimarc :(
10:19 kf             are you using the easyanalytics feature?
10:22 magnuse        paul_p: can't see usecache here? http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=9360&action=diff
10:24 kf             paul_p: I think Jared and me missed something with the pref that got not implemented - we will need a follow-up
10:24 kf             :(
10:24 kf             paul_p: plz don't revert - i will try to work out something with jared later and submit fast (this feature got stuck so long already, I really want this to go in and I know jared too)
10:26 chris_n        http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/6/checkstyleResult/new/?
10:26 chris_n        so when do we start the great total refactor? ^^^
10:26 chris_n        :-)
10:26 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7877 - note on expiration in the opac worded wrongish <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aee340a627f922343974d1d6ae05e12f144b51fb> / Bug 7842 - Inconsistencies in Notices interface <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2842869bb124907f185c69b8b5453c581c453ee> / Bug 7739 follow-up for capital cases <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1
10:26 kf             chris_n: I am not sure I understand what it tests - can you explain it a bit? :)
10:27 kf             I saw there were lots of wanrs
10:27 jaya           please tell me how do i add members in KOHA . We are using catalogue already module and now wants to implement circulation module. For that, first we require to add the members in the members module. But its not happening....kindly help !!!
10:27 chris_n        if I understand correctly, it attempt so check the complexity of the code based on the number of possible execution paths
10:27 kf             jaya: have you configured patron categories? go and work your way down from the administration page
10:28 kf             jaya: which version of koha are you using?
10:28 chris_n        the greater the number of execution paths, the more complex the code, and the greater need of refactoring.... I think
10:28 kf             guess circulation and biblio are no surprise candidates
10:29 kf             and search.pm
10:29 wahanui        search.pm is probably complicated and has been the source of much contention in the wake of KohaCon with BibLibre rewriting it for Solr/Lucene instead of Zebra support.
10:29 chris_n        I was surprised that pretty much everything is a candidate :P
10:30 chris_n        off to b'fast
10:31 paul_p         off to lunch ;-)
10:31 magnuse        jaya: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/patscirc.html
10:31 kf             off to... well.. off.
10:31 magnuse        hehe
10:38 jaya           its 2.8
10:40 jaya           manual given by you belongs to latest version of koha i guess
10:40 jaya           is it ?
10:40 Topdog         Hello Everone
10:40 jaya           bcoz 2.8 version of koha has not got any of these parameters such as patron categories etc ??
10:40 Topdog         Its 3.06
10:40 jaya           ya
10:41 jaya           so wht should i do
10:41 jaya           now
10:41 jaya           pls tell me
10:42 Topdog         I have this Challenge with Koha, where after adding records during cataloging i tried searching 4 d records but i got a "no results found in biblios" pls help out wit a solution
10:43 magnuse        jaya: 2.8 is really, really old and unsupported, are you sure that is what you are using?
10:43 jaya           yes its 2.8
10:44 Topdog         it's version 3.6
10:44 jaya           <Topdog>: this happens sumtimes when we put wrong spelling of the title in the search option,,,,try again with exactly right spelling
10:45 jaya           arey what m using is 2.8
10:45 magnuse        jaya: i don't even think there was a 2.8 - maybe 2.2.8?
10:45 Topdog         i hv tried for various titles..it cant b all spelling errors
10:46 magnuse        jaya: anyway, the best thing you could do is upgrade to a newer version
10:46 magnuse        Topdog: did you set up the zebra cronjobs?
10:47 Topdog         ya..
10:47 jaya           ok fine
10:47 jaya           which one should i install then
10:48 magnuse        jaya: 3.6.4 is the current stable version
10:48 magnuse        Topdog: have you seen http://koha-community.org/faq/zebra-indexing-wont-work-fix-it-aka-search-stuff-up-help/ ?
10:48 slef           vfernandes: -k flag to the reindex command.
10:48 Topdog         yes i hav seen it..
10:48 jaya           thanks
10:49 jaya           i will do
10:49 slef           vfernandes: no -k to rebuild_zebra.pl
10:49 vfernandes     humm ok
10:49 slef           or at least I think it is
10:49 slef           check by running rebuild_zebra.pl -h
10:50 slef           Koha developers often leave help behind. Use it when it's there.
10:50 slef           Can anyone create kohacon12 on http://lanyrd.com/ for us, please?
10:51 Topdog         i hv ran it..
10:52 vfernandes     I'm seeing now the records
10:52 rangi          ill try slef
10:54 vfernandes     slef: apparently everything is fine
10:55 rangi          slef: http://lanyrd.com/2012/kohacon12/
10:55 rangi          apparently i already had
10:56 slef           rangi: thank you. I'll link it on http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/ Any other sites we should have it on?
10:57 rangi          hmm, none that spring to mind
10:59 slef           updated
10:59 jenkins_koha   Yippie, build fixed!
10:59 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #723: FIXED in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/723/
10:59 jenkins_koha   * koha.sekjal: Bug 7820: Add missing Debian packages
10:59 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 7820: Followup: Add missing Debian packages
10:59 jenkins_koha   * colin.campbell: Bug 6335 Set branch in sip session
10:59 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7820 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Missing packages from install_misc/debian.packages
10:59 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 5184 [REVISED] Upgrade jQuery to the latest version (OPAC)
10:59 jenkins_koha   * koha: Replace itemnumber by barcode in links of patron modification log
10:59 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Welcoming Lyon 3 team as a committer, and adding 3.8.0 release
10:59 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6335 normal, P3, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Branch not set consistently in all SIP transactions
10:59 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 5345: DataTables integration in acquisition module [16]
10:59 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8048 - better spacing on categories for attributes
10:59 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Upgrade jQuery to the latest version
10:59 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , DataTables in Koha
10:59 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8048 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , better spacing on categories for attributes
11:00 slef           rangi: can you change the link to http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/ please?
11:00 rangi          will do
11:00 jenkins_koha   Starting build #724 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
11:00 slef           ta
11:01 slef           oh I can
11:02 rangi          done
11:03 slef           I added venue. Will stop now.
11:03 rangi          :_
11:03 rangi          :) too
11:03 rangi          still getting used to new keyboard
11:07 magnuse        http://lanyrd.com/2012/kohacon12-hackfest/
11:13 druthb         o/
11:14 magnuse        \o
11:15 dgl-library    hi #koha
11:15 dgl-library    does anyone know about editing the MARC structure? my question is about hidden fields
11:15 dgl-library    I've seen that there are two options for hidden (when editing in XML)
11:15 dgl-library    1 and -6
11:15 wahanui        -5
11:15 dgl-library    what's the difference
11:16 dgl-library    my guess is that 1 means hidden from the user unless there's imported data, and −6 means hidden always, but not sure
11:20 jenkins_koha   Starting build #8 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #6 7 hr 58 min ago)
11:29 kf             dgl-library: it's a bit confusing with the numbers, but there is some documentationin the online help
11:30 kf             click on the [?] in the upper right corner on that page
11:31 dgl-library    kf: thanks
11:31 kf             dgl-library: and it really only affects the marc views
11:31 kf             not the normal views
11:32 dgl-library    kf: I want to make life easier for the people entering the book info by making unnecessary fields invisible
11:32 kf             yes, that is possible :)
11:32 kf             only people expect that it also changes the opac view, which does not work
11:32 kf             so I thought I woudl mention it :)
11:33 dgl-library    thanks for the tip and the clarification :)
11:33 magnuse        kf++
11:33 druthb1        kf++
11:33 * magnuse      wanders off to a late lunch
11:40 jcamins_away   @later tell paul_p It looks like you pushed the patch for bug 7249 without the patch for 7248. 7249 depends on 7248.
11:40 huginn         jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
11:56 francharb      kf, sorry for late answer! ;) yep, i'm using the easyanalytic feature
11:56 francharb      and I'm not sur it's related to unimarc or marc21
11:56 francharb      the feature works on my local installation but not on the install 'im using for the training
11:57 francharb      it's the same koha version
11:57 francharb      °~°
11:57 kf             francharb: perhaps a difference in the frameworks? or in the items?
11:58 francharb      maybe but I don't know what I have to check...
11:58 jcamins_away   paul_p: you pushed 7249 but not 7248, which it depends on.
11:58 francharb      I will try to look subfield by subfield and mapping by mapping
11:58 paul_p         hi jcamins_away yes, I know, i'm on 7248 now
11:58 jcamins_away   paul_p: okay, thanks. :)
11:58 francharb      I didn't check the documentation again
11:58 kf             paul_p: no follow-up needed then- I was mistaken :) jcamins_away corrected the system preference reference we found ealier :)
11:59 paul_p         jcamins_away but it appears to me that 7249 works without 7248 if you don't have caching ON
11:59 francharb      but I can"t remender any set up requirement...
11:59 kf             paul_p: you can't save a new report
11:59 jcamins_away   paul_p: you won't be able to save reports without 7248.
11:59 kf             I think you perhaps tried with an existing
11:59 paul_p         kf right, I tried with an existing one
12:05 kf             paul_p: I got worried I missed something :) happy it will be resolved with 7248
12:08 * francharb    is going to the training he is giving! :^)
12:08 francharb      s/going/going back
12:08 francharb      anyway..
12:12 kf             @marc 260 c
12:12 huginn         kf: Date of publication, distribution, etc. May contain multiple dates (e.g., dates of publication and copyright). (Repeatable)
12:13 drojf          good day #koha
12:13 kf             hi drojf
12:13 drojf          hi kf :)
12:14 drojf          got my "dienstreisegenehmigung", trying to find out about the "abschlagszahlung" :)
12:23 kf             whoot! :)
12:24 magnuse        traveling is serious business, eh? ;-)
12:25 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #724: SUCCESS in 1 hr 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/724/
12:25 jenkins_koha   * amit.gupta: Bug 7739 - Batch edit items of a title
12:25 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Bug 7739 follow-up for capital cases
12:25 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 7842 - Inconsistencies in Notices interface
12:25 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 7877 - note on expiration in the opac worded wrongish
12:25 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7739 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, shinoy.m, Pushed to Master , Batch edit items of a title
12:25 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7842 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Inconsistencies in Notices interface
12:25 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7877 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , note on expiration in the opac worded wrongish
12:46 jenkins_koha   Yippie, build fixed!
12:46 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.8.x build #8: FIXED in 1 hr 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/8/
12:46 jenkins_koha   * koha.sekjal: Bug 7820: Add missing Debian packages
12:46 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 7820: Followup: Add missing Debian packages
12:46 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7820 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Missing packages from install_misc/debian.packages
12:47 oleonard       Hi #koha
12:49 nengard        morning oleonard
12:49 druthb         Hi, oleonard!  :)
13:01 gmcharlt       good morning
13:18 Shane-S        Been awhile, hi all
13:19 Shane-S        so I can remember the config file I set the username and password to the admin page. I am getting back to our Koha project and I didn't document the login
13:25 slef           Shane-S: first question?
13:25 wahanui        i guess first question is "What are you trying to do?" or or what is the goal?
13:27 Shane-S        what file is it you edit during setup to specify the admin login for the :8080 page
13:28 Shane-S        I can't get in, and my post it just has the accounts for my ubuntu box
13:29 Shane-S        don't worry this is a non-production box, but I am creating a timeline for the actual thing, and I can't get in to time a the process of adding a physical book to koha
13:31 Shane-S        I feel like it was an XML file
13:31 Shane-S        I just can't remember
13:31 Shane-S        think I found it... /etc/koha/sites/biblio/koha-conf.xml
13:34 Shane-S        hmm that doesn't seem like it...they seem to be users for mysql, and the system behind the scenes...I guess MySQL is next
13:36 oleonard       Shane-S: You can log in to Koha as the mysql user
13:36 oleonard       ...and then reset the password for whatever admin user you usually use
13:40 Shane-S        via the mysql command line I assume, as the web interface doesn't expect that username and password combo, is it an MD5 cyrpt I use?
13:41 oleonard       No, you log into the Koha admin web interface with the username and password given for the mysql user you created for Koha
13:41 oleonard       I mean mysql credentials
13:41 Shane-S        ah okay
13:44 Shane-S        lol....wasn't the password I forgot...was actually the username :)
13:44 Shane-S        thanks!
13:44 Shane-S        I am putting that on my post it :
13:46 Shane-S        Perhaps you all can answer this, how long would you estimate it takes too add a book and barcode it?
13:46 oleonard       It depends entirely on how you do it. From scratch? Import a record? Download from Z39.50?
13:47 Shane-S        Import 96-98% from Marc from follett, our system has all the biblo now
13:48 Shane-S        I also made it URL live :) http://library.npelem.com (using POUND reverse proxy)
13:50 Shane-S        I forget what I did but somehow you all helped me to make it so there was at least 1 copy of every book
13:51 Shane-S        If that wasn't the case, I guess it would be a manual effort of adding a copy and generating a barcode for each one correct?
13:51 oleonard       Makes sense.
13:53 Shane-S        I had this all down 3months ago...sucks when I can't focus on single projects :(
13:55 Shane-S        Do I have this correct... Biblio > Add Book(s) > Print Barcodes > Label Book(s)
13:57 oleonard       Specifically:  Add bibliographic record > Add items > Print barcodes > Label items
13:58 * wizzyrea     pokes bug 7998
13:58 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7998 critical, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Needs Signoff , 3.8 UI cleanup, tweaks to new styles
13:58 wizzyrea       yup, still kickin.
13:58 Shane-S        Yeah...I have to adjust my timeline excel file then, I mistakenly thought I could batch print barcodes..forgetting it has to be unique for each book
14:09 * wizzyrea     waves
14:09 * libsysguy    waves back
14:10 libsysguy      wizzyrea i just got your message from huggin but i honestly have no idea what was on my mind a whole day ago lol
14:14 wizzyrea       hehe
14:23 jcamins        Good morning, #koha.
14:25 chris_n        hi jcamins, wizzyrea, libsysguy, everyone else
14:26 libsysguy      morning jcamins, chris_n
14:32 * chris_n      fixes another "squash" related bug in QOTD :-P
14:32 chris_n        one must be very careful when squashing lots of little commits
14:32 jcamins        Oh?
14:32 chris_n        yes, this one cause the wrong array elements to be saved when saving uploaded quotes
14:33 chris_n        resulting in non-quotes :-)
14:33 * chris_n      will post a patch in a moment
14:33 jcamins        chris_n: how does it result in non-quotes?
14:34 chris_n        specifically it placed the quote number in the source field and the source in the text field
14:34 chris_n        fixed now, though
14:36 chris_n        jcamins: I also submitted a patch to address another issue jonathan found, so there are two more now
14:37 chris_n        hopefully those two will finish things off
14:37 * chris_n      is afraid to squash them all back down again :-)
14:37 chris_n        its actually not the squashing, but the reordering that got me
14:38 jcamins        I will try to sign off when I'm at home, but I probably won't have a chance until tomorrow.
14:40 chris_n        np, thanks
14:42 oleonard       Busy Bugzilla today. Good job guys.
14:58 * oleonard     trips over Bug 8014 completely by accident and wonders who left it lying there unattended
14:58 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8014 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , On the patron entry form hide "restricted until" field if "Restricted: No" is checked
15:06 vkm            hello koha users
15:08 vkm            which is most stable version
15:08 jcamins        vkm: I would probably recommend 3.6.4.
15:08 jcamins        3.6.5 will be released in a few weeks.
15:09 jcamins        I never use any .0 releases, because they tend to have more bugs.
15:09 vkm            is there any problem with indexing in 3.6.4
15:09 * jcamins      tosses NateC the duct tape.
15:10 jcamins        vkm: you'll need to be more specific with your questions.
15:10 vkm            i am using live cd of 3.6.4 but issued books shows items not availble
15:10 NateC          for my mouth? ;)
15:10 jcamins        NateC: I was thinking for your connection, but if the problem is that you're frightening your ISP, you can use it on your mouth instead. ;)
15:10 oleonard       vkm: That could be a problem with 3.6.4, or the live cd, or your installation.
15:11 oleonard       vkm: I would certainly recommend doing a real installation in order to eliminate one of those possible problems.
15:11 oleonard       vkm: And if you use the packages that might simplify things
15:11 wizzyrea       seems unlikely it's specifically a problem with 3.6.4
15:12 jcamins        drojf: kf: what does "Mitverf." mean?
15:12 vkm            cron job is not working for auto indexing rest of the cron job is working fine
15:12 jcamins        vkm: that sounds like a problem with the livecd.
15:13 jcamins        I don't know of anyone who uses the livecd, unfortunately.
15:13 jcamins        (other than you, of course;)
15:14 vkm            bcz i am new to the koha and linux so installation may not be easy for me but i have done lot of job like migration of my data users and everything
15:15 jcamins        vkm: which livecd is it?
15:15 vkm            please let me know the requirments so that i can install it in a easy way directly
15:15 vkm            it is 3.6.4 live CD made by mr. vimal kumar
15:15 jcamins        You know, maybe we should have "official" livecds that just use the packages + Debian squeeze.
15:16 vkm            that cd includes webmin also
15:17 vkm            and already having cronjobs etc, till date only i feel indexing related problem with that so i have to rebuild index all time
15:18 vkm            please let me know any other genuine live CD
15:18 jcamins        vkm: I don't use any livecds.
15:19 jcamins        I think we've heard about this problem from a bunch of people recently.
15:19 jcamins        logs?
15:19 wahanui        logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
15:19 jcamins        ^^ you might search in there to see if anyone has talked about this problem with the livecd recently.
15:20 reiveune       bye
15:21 jcamins        wizzyrea: thoughts on a livecd with only Koha on it?
15:22 jcamins        I feel like since we only troubleshoot generic installations it might make sense to have a livecd that matches our expectations.
15:22 wizzyrea       well you would not be the first to have that thought.
15:22 wizzyrea       you mean like, have an "official" one?
15:22 vkm            there must be some official live cd
15:22 wizzyrea       having some familiarity with the existing one would be good.
15:23 wizzyrea       not really, just intrepid volunteers who set them up as a project.
15:23 oleonard       vkm: There is not an official live cd.
15:23 wizzyrea       oh, btw, the debian administrator handbook is out.
15:23 wizzyrea       debian-handbook.info
15:24 jcamins        Right.
15:24 jcamins        vkm: there is not.
15:24 jcamins        wizzyrea: it would be, but when choosing between spending time with my wife, and learning about a livecd I will never use, the livecd loses out. Every. Time.
15:24 drojf          jcamins: "Mitverf." in what context? could be short for "Mitverfasser", meaning co-author, or "Mitverfasst" meaning "co-authored"?!
15:24 jcamins        Ooh, looks useful.
15:25 jcamins        Co-author makes sense, thanks.
15:25 jcamins        It's in the GND authority file.
15:25 jcamins        http://d-nb.info/gnd/119719533/about/html
15:25 chris_n        jcamins++ #on the use of time :-)
15:26 jcamins        chris_n: thanks. The cat tends to win over the live cd, too.
15:26 drojf          jcamins: yes co-author looks right
15:27 chris_n        lol
15:27 * drojf        got kohacon approved by bosses, a room and a flight (from an airport that will not be open by the time i planned to use it but)
15:28 jcamins        drojf: if the airport won't be open, how will you find a plane going in the right direction?
15:28 vkm            can i install koha directly from the internet after installing ubuntu
15:28 drojf          they have to reschedule me somehow. i had it booked before the opening was delayed, its not my problem
15:28 jcamins        Ah.
15:28 drojf          i hope it's not my problem…
15:29 jcamins        No, sounds like their problem.
15:29 vkm            please tell me minimum hardware requirment for koha if data is more than 20 thousand and library users are 800
15:30 jcamins        vkm: it depends on how much circulation you have.
15:31 vkm            50 items per day
15:31 jcamins        Any modern computer will be sufficient.
15:31 vkm            you mean 2 gb ram is sufficiant
15:32 vkm            what about OPAC speed
15:32 kf             drojf: new berlin airport?
15:32 jcamins        It depends how many searches are being done. The more powerful the computer, the faster it will be. However, 20k items with a daily circulation of 50 items is very low.
15:33 jcamins        So you're probably looking at very little usage.
15:33 drojf          kf: yes
15:34 drojf          when i realised i would go from there i was sure it would not work :D
15:35 vkm            can we install koha on server class machine like IBM server
15:35 jcamins        Of course.
15:36 vkm            jcamins you are helping me a lot please sugest me what to do i have done everything with the help of live cd 3.6.4 learn and migrated my all data from ms access and members also
15:37 kf             drojf: and they haven't contacted you yet?
15:37 kf             hmmmm! :)
15:37 vkm            tested and it works fine also but only indexing problem is there and i wanted to implement it in our organisation
15:38 oleonard       vkm: If you want to move your installation of Koha to another machine you need to export a backup of the Koha database
15:38 oleonard       vkm: Install Koha on your other machine and then import the database backup
15:39 kf             3.4x is officially eol now, right?
15:39 drojf          kf: flight was booked by an agency on behalf of the university. i guess i will get an update somewhen next week. the airport opening delay has only been public for a day or two
15:39 kf             I mean, noone is maintaining it?
15:39 jcamins        kf: that is correct.
15:39 vkm            now i can play with data migration and applications set up
15:40 vkm            only i do not know direct installation but also not tried
15:40 drojf          yeah, heavy rain. i was just invited to a barbecue. i think i'll pass :D
15:40 kf             drojf: you make me hungry.
15:40 drojf          that's an odd compliment :D
15:40 kf             lol
15:40 kf             you were already part of my external brain... this should not be worse
15:41 vkm            suppose i will start from live cd now and later on if i learn direct installation etc in that case can i migrate all my data to new one
15:41 jcamins        vkm: did you search in the logs to see if anyone had reported what the problem was?
15:42 drojf          i think it's about time for an "i told you so" sms to the friend that said "forecast says there won't be any rain" while black cliuds were in front of my window
15:42 vkm            i directly spoken to live cd maker but he also could not answer me and said it may be bug
15:42 datadoctor     webmin is nice, but you can always install it later if you need it
15:43 vkm            webmin is included with live cd
15:43 kf             drojf: that's not nice :) - and it's still sunny here
15:43 jcamins        It's not a bug in Koha 3.6.4, because lots of people are using 3.6.4 and indexing works fine.
15:44 jcamins        If there's a bug, it's with the live cd configuration.
15:44 datadoctor     there is the system preference for wildcards, sometimes causes problems with search, manifests similar to indexing issue
15:45 datadoctor     system preference queryautoruncate - we set to "only if * is added"
15:45 jcamins        More likely it's a configuration issue.
15:45 vkm            yes i think also there is role of some zebraqued daemon also which i do not understant
15:45 jcamins        datadoctor: are you using ICU?
15:45 datadoctor     ICU?
15:45 wahanui        ICU is a horrible monster that doesn't do what anyone expects.
15:46 jcamins        Yeah, that's a pretty accurate description.
15:46 jcamins        It allows you to search non-Roman character sets.
15:46 jcamins        It also is broken if you use QueryAutoTruncate.
15:46 kf             ICU is also a good monster for searching non lating scripts
15:46 wahanui        okay, kf.
15:46 datadoctor     Interesting - I will have to check that. Thought I was running generic, vanilla zebra
15:47 kf             hm
15:47 kf             lating
15:47 kf             *sigh*
15:47 chris_n        kf: is there anything particular you think should be added to 3.4?
15:47 vkm            all the things are working fine in 3.6.4 live cd actual problem is suppose i issued a book than in webclient search it shows item not available
15:47 kf             chris_n: no :) I changed a bug report filed against 3.4 with a comment
15:47 datadoctor     [consults long feature request list]
15:48 datadoctor     :)
15:48 kf             forget ICU
15:48 wahanui        kf: I forgot icu
15:48 chris_n        kf: if so, I can always try to accommodate :-)
15:48 jcamins        chris_n++
15:48 vkm            and in webopac it shows items available along with check out items
15:48 kf             ICU is needed, if you want to search non-Roman characters with Zebra
15:49 kf             Icu?
15:49 wahanui        Icu is needed, if you want to search non-Roman characters with Zebra
15:49 jcamins        vkm: you know that there's a several minute wait for the Zebra indexer to catch up.
15:49 kf             better
15:49 jcamins        *?
15:49 jwagner        jcamins, do you know anything about searching Chinese characters?
15:49 kf             jwagner: you need ICU
15:49 jcamins        ^^
15:50 jwagner        I've kind of vaguely noted discussion on that in the past, but of course haven't saved any traffic -- is there a writeup somewhere?
15:50 vkm            what could be the problem if daily or after 3-4 hour i will rebuild the whole index
15:50 kf             jwagner: check bugzilla
15:50 kf             jwagner: there was someone asking your question there and I ansered with a link how to install
15:50 jcamins        vkm: I don't know. As I said, this is a problem with the live cd, which no one here has used.
15:51 kf             bug 8065
15:51 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8065 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED INVALID, chinese word search result all chinese biblios record
15:51 vkm            no simply i wanted to ask suppose if i will rebuild index daily will it create any problem you forget the live cd
15:51 jcamins        vkm: oh, I see what you're asking.
15:52 jcamins        No, definitely no problem at all. :)
15:52 jcamins        In fact, for small collections I've set it up like that intentionally.
15:53 vkm            ok please let me know can i set up to rebuild index automatically daily pleas
15:53 jwagner        kf, got it, thanks!
15:53 jcamins        cron?
15:53 wahanui        cron is sending it to that? Sounds like a system problem, not koha.
15:53 datadoctor     vkm: do you use something like this: */10 * * * * if [ ! -f $HOME/donotindex ]; then touch $HOME/donotindex;$PERL5LIB/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -x >>$HOME/koha-dev/var/log/update_zebra.log 2>&1;rm -f $HOME/donotindex; fi
15:53 jcamins        crontab?
15:53 datadoctor     in your cronjobs?
15:54 jcamins        datadoctor: nice... are you doing load balancing?
15:54 datadoctor     nothing special - that might speed things up though
15:54 datadoctor     any suggestions?
15:55 vkm            my cronjob cd set up is like this   $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null
15:55 jcamins        No, implementing load balancing for Zebra remains on my to-do list.
15:55 jcamins        vkm: you would remove the -z and change the frequency to once per day.
15:55 datadoctor     I will add it to my to-do list as well.
15:56 jcamins        datadoctor: I'd suggest the indexer that fredericd wrote.
15:57 jcamins        My plan is to change it from checking whether done=1 to checking whether the timestamp is >= lastrun.
15:57 datadoctor     Good idea - we do have some problems with ours when we restart, if we are indexing during the restart it disables indexing because of the donotindex
15:57 vkm            above are the set up which does not work will it work for rebuild or i can make other by removing z
15:57 datadoctor     jcamins: Where might I find fredericd's script
15:58 datadoctor     Is that included with 3.6?
15:58 jcamins        vkm: unfortunately, I'm not sure. If you remove the "> /dev/null" part, you'll get an e-mail with the output, and then you would have the information needed to potentially troubleshoot the problem.
15:58 jcamins        datadoctor: no, it's separate.
15:58 jcamins        It's documented in the 3.8.0 INSTALL.debian file, but it works fine with 3.6.x, too.
15:59 datadoctor     cool ;)
15:59 jcamins        Bug 7759
15:59 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Pushed to Master , Use Koha-Contrib-Tamil to update Zebra data in background
15:59 vkm            what are pre requirments for set up of email alerts
16:00 jcamins        vkm: none. It'll go straight to your root user.
16:00 jcamins        Or whichever user the livecd author set up to receive root's e-mail.
16:01 vkm            i have completelly learned how to use koha but i thing i have to learn linux
16:01 vkm            i mean how to generate auto emails for issue/return books and hold information to concern users
16:02 jcamins        http://www.cpbibliography.com/news/2010/10/using-koha-learn-linux/
16:02 jcamins        Ah. You need to set up a mail server.
16:02 jcamins        Postfix?
16:02 wahanui        Postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
16:02 datadoctor     This is a good explanation of Linux mail: http://www.simplehelp.net/2008/12/01/how-to-send-email-from-the-linux-command-line/
16:02 kf             vkm: you need to be able to set up cron jobs and configure an mtp to send out mails
16:02 jcamins        ^^ that's a good page to read about.
16:02 vkm            is there any requirment to instal aditional email softwares etc
16:02 jcamins        *to read about it
16:02 jcamins        Maybe. It depends whether it's been set up already on the live cd.
16:02 kf             vkm: you can use different software, but the system in general has to be able to send out mails
16:03 vkm            live cd is only having webmin, koha
16:04 jcamins        Then you'll have to setup a mail server. We just pointed out a bunch of articles to take a look at.
16:04 vkm            i will be greatfull if any bodu use 3.6.4 from sourcforge and report me the solution
16:04 vkm            or the problems associated with it
16:05 jcamins        vkm: an option you might want to consider is hiring a support vendor to set this up for you. Everyone here is here as a volunteer.
16:05 vkm            do you have any idea about setting mirror server jcamins
16:06 vkm            so that if one stops another work with real time data transfer
16:06 slef           wow I only just noticed that 3.8.0 shipped with a 3.7.x db version
16:06 slef           how did I miss that before?
16:06 jcamins        slef: it did?
16:06 datadoctor     vkm: If you can get into Webmin (usually http://localhost:10000) check Webmin configuration > sending e-mail settings
16:07 jcamins        vkm: that's definitely something you'd need to hire a vendor to set up, if you don't want to figure it out yourself.
16:07 datadoctor     sorry, https !
16:07 slef           jcamins:
16:07 slef           jcamins: unless I missed something.
16:07 gmcharlt       slef: very briefly, but I thought the tarball got updated with the correct version stamp a few hours afterwards
16:07 slef           gmcharlt: looks like packages are still
16:07 gmcharlt       ah
16:08 slef           maybe that's why I missed it... this might be the first package-based server upgrade to 3.8 I've done
16:08 kf             slef: I think it's not in the packages yet
16:08 kf             slef: eythian went by the tag and that was missing the last update
16:08 slef           kf: oic. Anything else missing, do you know?
16:08 kf             no I think not
16:09 slef           not to worry, then!
16:09 slef           Thanks for the info, everyone!
16:09 vkm            yes i wanted to resolve my problems own it will give lot of opportunity to learn but at the same time i also do not wanted to create problem for my users but much eager to implement it now
16:09 vkm            None of the supported mail servers (Exim, Qmail, Postfix and Sendmail) were detected on your system. You will need to adjust the module configuration to set the mail server and possibly mail paths manually.
16:09 kf             slef: and eythian knows - but I think he will do packages for 3.8.1 so should be ok by then
16:09 jcamins        slef: oops. :(
16:09 jcamins        Okay, that's an additional test I need to add to my release test thing.
16:09 jcamins        Something that says "oy, you, you're an idiot, the version is wrong!"
16:09 jcamins        slef: oh, yeah, the packages haven't been done for 3.8.0 yet, have they?
16:09 jcamins        I thought the 3.8.0 packages were waiting for the 3.8.0 packaging patch.
16:10 kf             jcamins: that's a good idea - it's easy to miss in all the excitement
16:10 slef           jcamins: errr, I just got 3.8.0 packages... should I check where they came from?
16:10 jcamins        slef: I might've missed something.
16:10 vkm            i got this msg when webmin cliked at read user mail    None of the supported mail servers (Exim, Qmail, Postfix and Sendmail) were detected on your system. You will need to adjust the module configuration to set the mail server and possibly mail paths manually.3
16:11 slef           http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/pool/main/k/koha/ has a 3.8.0-1
16:11 jcamins        vkm: you should read the articles we suggested above.
16:11 jcamins        slef: yeah, looks like there are 3.8.0 packages.
16:11 jcamins        Huh.
16:11 jcamins        Odd that there are no 3.6 packages there.
16:11 slef           jcamins: nuked from orbit on 3.8.0's release?
16:12 jcamins        slef: shouldn't have been.
16:12 vkm            ok jcamins thanks for your help
16:15 jcamins        kf: I'll have to make it a warning, though, since I run the release test even when I'm not releasing.
16:15 slef           jcamins: you'll have to ask eythian about the build scripts I guess
16:16 slef           @later tell eythian jcamins was wondering where the 3.6 packages are... not on http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/pool/main/k/koha/ ?
16:16 huginn         slef: The operation succeeded.
16:16 kf             jcamins: makes sense :)
16:16 jcamins        Maybe I should have one release script with "release --test" and "release --build"
16:16 kf             oooh!
16:16 slef           release --crash ?
16:17 jcamins        I will link the release --build option to the Koha community recipe catalog, and include a random food as the official release food in the release notes.
16:17 magnuse        yay!
16:18 kf             jcamins: genious!
16:18 kf             jcamins
16:19 kf             jcamins++ for backporting useicu and all the nice authority linking
16:20 kf             http://translate.koha-community.org/de/36/ :D
16:20 jcamins        slef: what should release --crash do?
16:20 slef           overwrite all files with excerpts of /dev/random perhaps?
16:21 jcamins        "This release brought to you by the letter Q, the number 5, and sweet potato gnocchi."
16:21 wizzyrea       lol.
16:22 kf             lol
16:26 datadoctor     mmmmmmm....gnocchi...
16:26 jcamins        Not just any gnocchi. *sweet potato* gnocchi.
16:29 kf             @later tell drojf I checked the 3.6 po files for syntax errors - all ok for now :)
16:29 huginn         kf: The operation succeeded.
16:30 jcamins        kf: you saw that fredericd pulled new po files?
16:31 kf             jcamins: yep
16:31 kf             I just finished translating and checked for errors :)
16:31 kf             (18:20:17) kf: http://translate.koha-community.org/de/36/ :D
16:31 jcamins        That was fast!
16:35 datadoctor     lunchtime (in Ohio)
16:37 magnuse        nengard: when you have the time, could you check that the patch i just sent for the docs works ok? looks like i need to do another similar one
16:38 nengard        where did you send it?
16:38 nengard        I don't see it on the docs list
16:38 magnuse        hm no bug 7248 pushed today?
16:38 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Passed QA , Caching for services
16:38 jcamins        magnuse: nope.
16:39 magnuse        [off] koha-docs@lists.koha-community.org
16:39 magnuse        nengard: ^
16:39 nengard        k - it must be on its way
16:41 magnuse        nengard: it just hit my inbox...
16:42 jcamins        magnuse: you could check out a temporary branch and apply 7248 over it.
16:43 magnuse        jcamins: sure, i just don't think it should be missing from master for too long...
16:44 jcamins        magnuse: agreed. I'm not sure why paul_p didn't push it before 7249, since 7249 depended on 7248, but I imagine paul_p has gone home by now.
16:45 jcamins        So at least you can play around with the awesomeness that is the report service while waiting for tomorrow.
16:45 jcamins        Wait, it's Friday.
16:45 nengard        magnuse still nothing here ?. will keep refreshing
16:45 jcamins        Monday.
16:46 magnuse        jcamins: it's pizzaday! (except pizza is postponed until tomorrow)
16:47 jcamins        magnuse: oh no! Why is pizza postponed?!?
16:47 magnuse        it's such a nice day, we are having shrimp on the veranda instead?
16:47 jcamins        Ah.
16:47 * jcamins      doesn't like shrimp.
16:47 magnuse        (does veranda work in english?)
16:47 magnuse        jcamins: hah, too bad! ;-)
16:47 jcamins        It does, but not in New York.
16:47 jcamins        ;)
16:48 kf             wait, it's friday?
16:48 magnuse        hehe
16:48 magnuse        kf: yup, shouldn't you go home and do accounting?
16:48 * kf           puts a big bowl of cookies in the middle of #koha
16:48 magnuse        w00t!
16:48 kf             first I have to close some tickets :)
16:49 * oleonard     shakes his imaginary fist at imaginary cookies
16:50 nengard        magnuse I don't have any moderation requests - and it's not in the log: https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/koha-docs/2012-May/date.html
16:50 kf             oleonard: what did the cookies do?
16:50 * kf           hides them from oleonard
16:50 magnuse        nengard: weird
16:51 kf             magnuse: subscription?
16:51 oleonard       kf: The failed to exist in reality!
16:51 kf             oleonard: ok, that I can understand
16:51 magnuse        kf: should be ok as far as i know
16:55 magnuse        nengard: tried another one now
16:55 magnuse        ...and it's in my inbox (cc'ed to me)
16:58 chris_n        shrimp++
16:58 chris_n        master_broken_on_friday--
16:58 wizzyrea       ack how is master broken
16:58 jcamins        wizzyrea: reports.
16:58 wahanui        reports are done by each library, and you can configure it
16:58 chris_n        reports it would appear
16:59 wizzyrea       argle bargle bargle
16:59 chris_n        wahanui: not atm
16:59 wahanui        chris_n: what?
16:59 jcamins        wizzyrea: if you apply bug 7248, that should fix it.
16:59 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Passed QA , Caching for services
16:59 wizzyrea       oho
16:59 wizzyrea       I see.
16:59 wizzyrea       I missed some stuff.
16:59 wizzyrea       got it.
16:59 wizzyrea       :)
17:00 nengard        is anyone else subscribed to the docs list getting magnuse's emails?
17:00 jcamins        nengard: I am not. I've been waiting for it.
17:01 nengard        I still don't have anything to moderate
17:01 nengard        and nothing being delivered
17:03 magnuse        nengard: posted the two patches here too: http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/kohadocs/
17:04 magnuse        had to fix a space in the filename of two images to generate ePub :-)
17:04 magnuse        time to run now - have fun #koha!
17:10 kf             magnuse++ for generating epub!
17:17 jcamins        kf: now you can read the manual on your phone!
17:18 jcamins        @time konstanz, germany
17:18 huginn         jcamins: downloading the Perl source
17:18 jcamins        I guess huginn doesn't do timezones.
17:18 jcamins        @tz
17:18 huginn         jcamins: downloading the Perl source
17:18 jcamins        17:18?
17:19 kf             jcamins: he does, but I always forget how
17:20 jcamins        huginn: help
17:20 huginn         jcamins: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
17:20 jcamins        huginn: list
17:20 huginn         jcamins: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, MeetBot, Misc, Network, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, ReleaseDay, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather
17:20 kf             @help Lart
17:20 huginn         kf: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
17:21 jcamins        @help user
17:21 huginn         jcamins: (user [<channel>] <name>) -- Returns the last time <name> was seen and what <name> was last seen saying. This looks up <name> in the user seen database, which means that it could be any nick recognized as user <name> that was seen. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
17:21 kf             help Lart
17:21 kf             @help Todo
17:21 huginn         kf: (todo [<username> [<task id>]|<task id>]) -- Retrieves a task for the given task id. If no task id is given, it will return a list of task ids that that user has added to their todo list.
17:21 kf             @help Dunno
17:21 huginn         kf: Error: There is no command "dunno".
17:22 jcamins        Hehe.
17:27 jcamins        Bah. I just used field 740.
17:28 jcamins        I hate it when I have to use 740 (though not so much as when I have to use 787).
17:28 jcamins        It makes me feel like MARC has failed me.
17:29 jcamins        In fairness, that feeling is correct.
17:29 jwagner        @quote add jcamins: It makes me feel like MARC has failed me.
17:29 huginn         jwagner: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
17:29 jwagner        Harrumph
17:30 jcamins        @quote get 23
17:30 huginn         jcamins: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
17:31 jwagner        I was already registered, and now it won't recognize me. Sigh
17:31 kf             @marc 740
17:31 huginn         kf: Contains related or analytical titles that are not controlled through an authority file or list. (If related or analytical titles are controlled by an authority file, use field 730 (Added entry - uniform title)). (Repeatable) [a,h,n,p,5,6,8]
17:37 chris_n        @quote add jcamins: It makes me feel like MARC has failed me.
17:37 huginn         chris_n: The operation succeeded.  Quote #204 added.
18:11 * wizzyrea     waves in a post-lunch comatose kind of way
18:11 kf             oh
18:11 kf             what was for lunch?
18:11 wizzyrea       Turkey and swiss sandwich
18:11 kf             swiss cheese?
18:11 wizzyrea       yep
18:11 wizzyrea       no, actual swiss people.
18:11 wizzyrea       j/k :)
18:11 oleonard       Turkey and swiss chocolate?
18:12 wizzyrea       I wish there had been chocolate.
18:13 kf             :)
18:13 * kf           has some cherry chilly chocolate mousse chocolate in her drawer
18:13 wizzyrea       !
18:13 oleonard       brb
18:13 * kf           shares virtually
18:13 kf             ok, time for weekend :) bye all!
18:14 nengard        is there a bug in the overdues with fines report in 3.8?
18:14 wizzyrea       by… lol.
18:14 wizzyrea       she knows better.
18:14 nengard        I should say a "known" bug
18:14 wizzyrea       the first question?
18:14 wahanui        the first question is "What are you trying to do?" or or what is the goal?
18:15 wizzyrea       the first question is also "What is the problem you are experiencing?"
18:15 wahanui        okay, wizzyrea.
18:16 wizzyrea       the first question?
18:17 wizzyrea       the first question?
18:17 wahanui        "What are you trying to do?"  "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
18:19 nengard        wizzyrea were those questions for me?  anyway, all i tried to do was click the 'overdues with fines' link and got an error :)
18:19 nengard        bug 8077 reported
18:19 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8077 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , overdues with fines won't run
18:20 wizzyrea       I think there's a problem with reports in master
18:20 wizzyrea       in general
18:20 wizzyrea       there was a bug
18:20 wizzyrea       @query caching
18:20 jcamins        bug 7248
18:20 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Passed QA , Caching for services
18:20 huginn         wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7533 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , T::T caching during installation
18:20 huginn         wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5377 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Database fields too small for multiple ISBN and ISSN
18:20 wizzyrea       ytat
18:20 huginn         wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7387 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes
18:20 wizzyrea       that.
18:20 huginn         wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7857 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , database upgrade fails with plack
18:20 huginn         wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Improve order item creation
18:20 wizzyrea       oy sorry.
18:21 wizzyrea       didn't even find the one I was looking for lo
18:21 wizzyrea       lol
18:21 wizzyrea       so your problem is probably related to that
18:22 jcamins        Not if it's in 3.8.0.
18:22 wizzyrea       yea, nengard, is that master or 3.8.0
18:22 nengard        master
18:22 wizzyrea       then yea
18:22 wizzyrea       that's probably the problem bug7248
18:22 wizzyrea       bug 7248
18:23 wizzyrea       that's 3.9 ;)
18:24 nengard        i put master on the bug report - just fyi
18:46 jcamins        Huh. This is kind of interesting: http://www.floatingpath.com/2012/04/23/where-the-libraries-are/
18:50 wizzyrea       the big blob in the middle - that's near where I am >.>
18:50 wizzyrea       wish they'd left on state lines
18:51 jcamins        If you zoom in the state lines are visible.
18:51 jcamins        Barely.
18:51 chris_n        whew... addbiblio.tt is not for the weak of stomach
18:51 * chris_n      puts on his hip-waders
18:51 jcamins        chris_n: no it isn't. That's why you're rewriting the cataloging interface with datatables and jeditable. :)
18:52 chris_n        better get the scuba gear on too :)
18:56 cait           :)
18:56 cait           perhaps more one of those biohazard protection suits?
18:56 cait           not sure how they are called
18:57 * cait         waves
18:57 jcamins        hazmat suits.
19:12 pastebot       "chris_n" at pasted "Upgrading from Koha to for anyone interested" (123 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/395
19:14 druthb         o/
19:14 jcamins        chris_n: how long did it take?
19:15 chris_n        < 1m for updatedatabase.pl
19:16 jcamins        Cool.
19:22 cait           francharb++
19:23 chris_n        jcamins: 2 min and counting for remove_items_from_biblios
19:23 chris_n        11K+ items in this db
19:23 jcamins        chris_n: yeah, that part is going to take a while.
19:44 oleonard       have a good weekend everyone
19:45 * oleonard     waves
19:51 rangi          check this out my peeps http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/
19:52 jcamins        What's checkstyle?
19:53 jcamins        Oh, wow.
19:53 jcamins        I like that.
19:56 chris_n        http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/clover/?
19:56 chris_n        ouch ^^
19:57 jcamins        Yeah, I noticed that.
19:57 chris_n        otherwise nice
19:57 jcamins        I figured rangi hadn't finished configuring it.
19:58 chris_n        remove_items_* finally finished up a moment ago
19:58 jcamins        38 minutes?
19:58 chris_n        just about that
19:59 chris_n        giving zebra a kick now
19:59 rangi          yeah the main coverage report is still here
19:59 rangi          http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/HTML_Report/?
20:00 chris_n        this is a dress rehearsal for my production upgrade after 8.0.1 is released :-)
20:01 * chris_n      cheers rangi on
20:01 jcamins        chris_n: you're upgrading this month?
20:02 rangi          but the clover one will track over time, so we can see improvements, like the checkstyle and tests one do
20:02 chris_n        yup, now that I have the one local feature forward ported
20:02 * libsysguy    is moving to 3.8.1 when the time comes
20:05 chris_n        well, that appears to have gone smoothly
20:05 jenkins_koha   Starting build #9 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED)
20:05 chris_n        we'll let the catalogers get at it before doing the production db, though
20:05 * chris_n      heads out
20:05 * rangi        is busy installing unbound on his laptop
20:47 rangi          yay, all running dnssec now
20:49 jcamins        No DNS poisoning for rangi!
20:50 rangi          :)
20:50 rangi          local caching is nice for speed too
20:56 jcamins        rangi: yeah, that's one thing that was a step backward when I switched to OSX.
20:56 jcamins        Bug 5184
20:56 wahanui        Bug 5184 is the priority
20:56 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Upgrade jQuery to the latest version
20:58 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.8.x build #9: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/9/
20:58 jenkins_koha   colin.campbell: Bug 6335 Set branch in sip session
20:58 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6335 normal, P3, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Branch not set consistently in all SIP transactions
20:58 rangi          http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/
20:58 rangi          see on the right
20:59 rangi          now we get a trend
20:59 rangi          incentive to get those lines moving up :)
20:59 jcamins        Heh.
21:01 rangi          heh
21:01 rangi          http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/9/checkstyleResult/package.-1322679604/file.-556650809/
21:01 jcamins        Yeah, just about every method triggers that.
21:02 jcamins        It's rather depressing.
21:02 rangi          it hates C4::Search :)
21:02 jcamins        It has lots of company in that club.
21:03 rangi          i think its one we can trend down too, its nice to keep an eye on
21:20 * rangi        really wants bug 7998 in 3.8.1
21:20 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7998 critical, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Needs Signoff , 3.8 UI cleanup, tweaks to new styles
21:20 jenkins_koha   Starting build #10 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:20 rangi          i hope it gets pushed to master soon
21:21 jcamins        I thought it was signed off.
21:21 jcamins        I guess there were more patches.
21:23 wizzyrea       well I kept getting requests to tweak stuff
21:24 wizzyrea       this last one I think covers everything everybody wanted though
21:24 wizzyrea       it's not like we can't fix it once it's in if it's wrong somehow
21:25 rangi          exactly, and it moves things forward
21:25 rangi          soon as its in master ill put it in 3.8.x
21:29 wizzyrea       It needs a stinky sign off though.
21:29 * wizzyrea     mutters.
21:36 jcamins        If I get a chance, I will try to sign off on it.
21:37 rangi          thanks jcamins
21:37 wizzyrea       that would be SO COOL
21:37 wizzyrea       basically, take a tour throughout he staff client without
21:37 wizzyrea       then take a tour with
21:37 wizzyrea       in a couple of browsers
21:38 wizzyrea       there's really nothing super controversial in there anymore.
21:38 SJeffery       Don't forget us poor folks on IE :)
21:38 wizzyrea       I don't think I did anything that makes IE mad
21:38 wizzyrea       not in the patch for 7998
21:39 rangi          using IE on the staff interface has a bunch of issues, but none of them are to do with 7998
22:01 * chris_n      thinks paul_p should just push bug 7998 and move forward... we can tweak forever
22:01 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7998 critical, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Needs Signoff , 3.8 UI cleanup, tweaks to new styles
22:02 chris_n        but some of it fixes stuff that was just plain broken from the word go
22:02 rangi          chris_n++
22:04 jcamins        chris_n++
22:13 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.8.x build #10: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/10/
22:13 jenkins_koha   * koha: Bug 7870 : Replace itemnumber by barcode in links of patron modification log
22:13 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Welcoming Lyon 3 team as a committer, and adding 3.8.0 release
22:13 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Stable , Replace itemnumber by barcode in links of patron modification log
22:13 jenkins_koha   Starting build #11 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:15 rangi          i need to push some unit test to make the lines move!
22:23 rangi          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uk8pwEHMBE
23:05 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.8.x build #11: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/11/
23:05 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 5345: DataTables integration in acquisition module [16]
23:05 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8048 - better spacing on categories for attributes
23:05 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 7842 - Inconsistencies in Notices interface
23:05 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 7877 - note on expiration in the opac worded wrongish
23:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , DataTables in Koha
23:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8048 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , better spacing on categories for attributes
23:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7842 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Inconsistencies in Notices interface
23:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7877 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , note on expiration in the opac worded wrongish