Time  Nick              Message
23:48 jcamins_away      Yay!
23:47 cait              :)
23:47 rangi             :)
23:47 Space_Librarian   huzzah
23:46 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_3.8.x build #4: FIXED in 34 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/4/
23:46 jenkins_koha      Yippie, build fixed!
23:30 cait              heh :)
23:29 jcamins_away      And Myshkin approves of the cats.
23:29 jcamins_away      Heh. Not far.
23:29 cait              and 947
23:28 cait              )
23:28 cait              not sure ... but ther emight be some hypoallergenic cats too ;
23:28 cait              and army of cats fighting with elves and dwarves and normal cats too
23:28 cait              werecats
23:28 cait              oh lots of cats
23:25 jcamins_away      And Myshkin asks if there are any cats.
23:24 jcamins_away      Out of?
23:22 cait              814
23:22 cait              yep
23:22 jcamins_away      cait: Eragon?
23:21 cait              can't - I am reading :)
23:21 jcamins_away      cait: go to sleep!
23:12 jenkins_koha      Starting build #4 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: STILL FAILING)
23:07 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_3.8.x build #3: STILL FAILING in 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/3/
22:47 cait              perhaps that will help :)
22:47 jenkins_koha      cait: thanks a lot! om nom nom. how did you know that cookies is my favorite food?
22:47 cait              !jenkins botsnack cookies
22:44 Space_Librarian   what? ;)
22:41 cait              Space_Librarian: hmmm... :)
22:40 jenkins_koha      Starting build #3 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: STILL FAILING)
22:36 Space_Librarian   so it wasn't me? whew!
22:32 jenkins_koha      Project Koha 3.8.x build #2: STILL FAILING in 1 min 24 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha%203.8.x/2/
22:30 jenkins_koha      Starting build #2 for job Koha 3.8.x (previous build: FAILURE)
22:30 rangi             gah
22:30 jenkins_koha      rangi: syntax is: 'build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]*'
22:30 rangi             !jenkins build Koha_3.8.x now
22:30 jenkins_koha      rangi: syntax is: 'build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]*'
22:30 rangi             !jenkins build koha 3.8.x now
22:30 cait              eythian: only thought I would let you know :)
22:29 jenkins_koha      rangi: syntax is: 'build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]*'
22:29 rangi             !jenkins build koha_3.8.x now
22:29 * cait            waves
22:29 rangi             heh, i havent finished configuring it, its unsuprising it failed
22:28 * Space_Librarian leaves to find chocolate and not jinx anything
22:28 huginn            eythian: The operation succeeded.
22:28 eythian           @later tell kf yeah, they're based on the tag, which is apparently a bit wrong.
22:27 Space_Librarian   d'oh
22:27 eythian           Space_Librarian jinxed it
22:26 jenkins_koha      Project Koha 3.8.x build #1: FAILURE in 6 min 4 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha%203.8.x/1/
22:25 Space_Librarian   fingers crossed
22:24 jenkins_koha      Starting build #1 for job Koha 3.8.x
22:01 chris_n           jcamins_away: the add a single quote feature is busted... I'll fix it later
21:39 cait              :)
21:38 * Space_Librarian hands out some Edinburgh rock (my breakfast)
21:38 Space_Librarian   hey rangi, wizzyrea :)
21:38 wahanui           Space_Librarian is a Koha poet or the sweetest lil lady you'll ever know
21:38 wizzyrea          hey Space_Librarian
21:37 rangi             hi Space_Librarian
21:37 Space_Librarian   o/
21:33 kathryn           beautiful photos - fixated on nanny!
21:09 wizzyrea          lol he is adorable
21:07 rangi             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVi0O2-v03o&feature=g-upl
21:06 rangi             may 73 i was born, so yep 1 and a half
21:02 wizzyrea          about 1?
21:02 wizzyrea          awwwww
21:02 rangi             http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=10809
21:02 wizzyrea          extremely.
21:02 cait              wizzyrea: cute, eh?
21:01 rangi             hehe
21:00 wizzyrea          oh my look at you!
20:44 cait              :)
20:43 rangi             http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=10800
20:39 cait              wb
20:37 rangi             back
20:28 cait              I think it was probably only well hidden
20:26 maximep           a year ago there was nothing... it didn't even have tabs vs spaces
20:25 cait              not all of it is new, but think it's good to have something written
20:24 maximep           those new coding guidelines are great!
20:21 maximep           looks cool
20:19 cait              and you will love the date plugin because it makes displaying dates fun :)
20:18 cait              like not using the new coding guidelines
20:18 cait              or it will give you trouble
20:18 cait              you should develop against master
20:18 cait              if you want to resubmit
20:18 cait              hm
20:18 cait              http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Displaying_dates
20:17 maximep           using 3.6
20:17 maximep           hmmm those are probably in 3.8, no ?
20:17 cait              ah, perhaps really the date plugin then
20:17 maximep           i need to reformat it to display
20:17 cait              I think there have been some new date functions introduced... you might want to check what's in the koha namespace now
20:16 cait              I mean do you want to display the date or need it for something else?
20:16 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6934 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, pelletiermaxime, Failed QA , New report Cash Register Statistics
20:16 maximep           finally having some time to fix bugs in bug 6934 to resubmit it
20:16 cait              is using the date plugin an option?
20:16 maximep           custom page
20:16 maximep           anyone knows why ? my argument is '2011-07-07'
20:16 cait              maximep: on which page ar eyou?
20:16 rangi             Ok my stop bbiab
20:15 kathryn           bah haha
20:15 rangi             Broke the water mains digging them up
20:14 maximep           (during init) @$self->{'dmy_arrayref'}: 0 0 0 30 3 112 -1 -1 1
20:14 maximep           hey, i'm trying to make a page work without warnings. It uses format_date_in_iso and that function gives me crazy warnings
20:14 rangi             And had a kumara patch in her front yard
20:14 kathryn           that's awesome
20:14 rangi             She was 92
20:14 kathryn           wow that's some first mouthful
20:14 rangi             I'll show u a photo when I get to work
20:13 rangi             Hmm auto capital fail
20:13 rangi             Pork bones and puha from nanny ADA
20:13 rangi             That's where I ate my first solid food
20:12 cait              and some kind of bird?
20:12 * rangi           spent every weekend of his first 5 years on a marae
20:12 cait              there was some kind of shrimp salad with coocnut
20:12 cait              yep exactly :)
20:11 rangi             I remember it was good food but not specifics
20:11 rangi             :)
20:11 cait              don't rmember all the other parts :)
20:10 cait              rangi: I think watercress was there
20:10 rangi             Kathryn: yeah much more manageable in a slow cooker :)
20:09 rangi             Cait/wizzyrea : u might have tried it on the marae trip on kohacon
20:09 kathryn           ah rangi never though of that. I got scared of boil up when my flatmate made it in what looked like a 44 gallon drum, splattered it all over the kitchen then went to a tangi for a week!
20:07 rangi             And works well in a slow cooker
20:07 kathryn           oh hello wizzyrea, Mnn I put all kinds of leftovers in those pies you can use rice as the base instead of pastry even!
20:07 rangi             It's utterly fantastic
20:06 rangi             Called a 'boil up'
20:06 cait              http://www.bakingmakesthingsbetter.com/2012/04/frans-fantastic-fudge.html
20:06 rangi             Cait: post colonisation Maori dish
20:06 wizzyrea          ^ is relevant to my interests.
20:06 wizzyrea          http://www.bakingmakesthingsbetter.com/2012/04/lunchbox-bakes-kumara-and-bacon-savoury.html
20:06 kathryn           : D
20:06 cait              ?
20:05 rangi             Bacon bones, puha, watercress and doughboys
20:05 kathryn           too dangerous
20:05 cait              kathryn: hm don't have one.... fudge?
20:04 kathryn           and cait hello *cough slow cooker cough*
20:04 cait              kathryn: do we have to start talking recipes again to make you talk? :)
20:04 kathryn           Oh hey rangi, cheers
20:03 rangi             Hdl: anything you want me to bring over from nz for you?
20:02 cait_afk          hi kathryn :)
20:02 rangi             Hi Kathryn, on my way in
20:02 cait_afk          ;)
20:02 cait_afk          we are last in that row - so hoping he does not get lost on the way
20:01 cait_afk          :)
20:01 rangi             Going to Marseille, Brighton, konstanz and a few other places
20:01 rangi             Nope that's him
20:01 rangi             Ahhh :)
20:00 hdl               no. i thought it was someone else.
20:00 rangi             Robin = eythian ... You knew that eh?
19:59 hdl               didn't know eythian would come in Marseille.
19:58 hdl               yeah not going. robin will come too.
19:58 rangi             But eythian is going to biblibre after so he can say hi for me
19:57 rangi             Paul said you wouldnt be there?
19:56 hdl               ?
19:56 rangi             eythian will have to hang out with u instead
19:55 rangi             Still sad I won't see hdl at kohacon
19:54 rangi             Hi Chris_n and hdl
19:54 cait_afk          hi hdl
19:54 cait_afk          hi chris_n
19:54 wahanui           bonjour, hdl
19:54 hdl               hi
19:54 chris_n           and wizzyrea too
19:54 chris_n           hi rangi cait
19:54 chris_n           hi hdl
19:54 * chris_n         adds a 24 step testing procedure to the QOTD bug... hoping it won't scare people off
19:53 wizzyrea          lil bit chilly
19:53 huginn            wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 17.5°C (2:52 PM CDT on April 30, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
19:53 wizzyrea          @wunder lawrence, ks
19:53 huginn            wizzyrea: Error: No such location could be found.
19:53 wizzyrea          @wunder lawrence, sk
19:52 huginn            cait_afk: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.2°C (9:49 PM CEST on April 30, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
19:52 cait_afk          @wunder Konstanz
19:52 huginn            rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on May 01, 2012). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
19:52 rangi             @wunder nzwn
19:47 * cait_afk        is glad too
19:46 rangi             Yep no longer whimpering :)
19:45 wizzyrea          glad you're feeling better.
19:45 cait_afk          I do
19:45 cait_afk          oh
19:44 cait_afk          ok, I don't get that
19:44 rangi             Juicy, cracker :)
19:44 cait_afk          do i want to ask what a juicy cracker is?
19:44 cait_afk          good morning rangi
19:43 rangi             Man get sick for 5 days and someone wants to turn koha into a nice juicy cracker target
19:42 rangi             Morning
19:37 * chris_n         can see some potential for messing things up there
19:37 wizzyrea          hm I did not. I don't use it that way often though
19:37 chris_n           rather than simply amending them
19:37 chris_n           which results in new md5 hashes for those commits?
19:37 chris_n           did you know that git bz "re-commits" commits behind the one you are currently applying?
19:36 chris_n           yes... trivia:
19:36 wizzyrea          what kind of problem are you having?
19:36 wizzyrea          really?
19:36 wahanui           rumour has it git bz is so much fun :) or http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration or just about anything except intuitive
19:36 chris_n           git bz?
19:36 wizzyrea          !
19:36 wahanui           okay, chris_n.
19:36 chris_n           wahanui: git bz is also just about anything except intuitive
19:36 wahanui           rumour has it git bz is so much fun :) or http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
19:36 chris_n           git bz?
19:36 chris_n           git bz is just about anything except intuitive
19:23 jcamins           chris_n++
19:23 jcamins           Awesome!
19:23 jcamins           Heh.
19:22 * chris_n         is out of M&M's now... so productivity will probably drop off
19:21 chris_n           jcamins: enhancement/bug_7977_csv is now updated to fix table sorting in the editor and reflect the improvements you suggested to the UI
18:59 francharb         see yaaaaa
18:59 francharb         i'm leaving
18:59 francharb         ok!
18:38 alaquerre         Ok then, thanks for all the answers. I have a better undestanding of the situation,  I will see what I can do and if we can send you something back, as a patch, I will be happy to do so.
18:37 jcamins           alaquerre: and that still probably won't fix the underlying search issues.
18:37 jcamins           alaquerre: however, it's dependent on BibLibre.
18:37 alaquerre         ok
18:36 jcamins           alaquerre: that's the hope.
18:35 alaquerre         jcamins : next question: any plan for that integration yet ? 3.10 ?
18:35 jcamins           It should be done during the integration process.
18:35 chris_n           for all you datatables lovers: http://debug.datatables.net/
18:34 jcamins           If you mean "should this work be done as part of the solr integration?" the answer is yes.
18:34 jcamins           We still need to fix searching.
18:34 jcamins           alaquerre: if you mean "is this something that will no longer be needed when solr is integrated?" the answer is no.
18:32 alaquerre         Again, I understand it's not a easy one.  Should this be done when Koha will get in Solr ?
18:32 jcamins           Unfortunately, it's very hard to convince libraries that they should spend money on "back-end stuff."
18:31 jcamins           See my impassioned defenses of good search results on the mailing list and IRC channel. ;)
18:31 jcamins           alaquerre: we are in complete agreement.
18:28 alaquerre         I say this with a smile but library software priority should be good search results :-)
18:27 jcamins           In fact, we don't have any query parser.
18:27 jcamins           The problem is that we don't have a good general-purpose query parser.
18:27 alaquerre         That's a little nightmare I understand :-)
18:26 jcamins           alaquerre: I don't think that will solve the problem. In fact, I think that would make it worse.
18:26 jcamins           maximep: BibLibre did a bunch of work on solr, and some of that code may be better, but it has to be integrated, first.
18:25 alaquerre         maximep: :-)
18:25 alaquerre         jcamins : ok - What do you think about telling the buildQuery to be, by default CCL and not "empty" ?
18:25 jcamins           No.
18:25 maximep           wasn't it rewritten for the move to solr ?
18:25 jcamins           Basically the entirety of the search module has to be rewritten.
18:24 jcamins           alaquerre: there is not a bug.
18:24 jcamins           alaquerre: it involves... a lot.
18:22 chris_n           especially this part: http://editor.datatables.net/purchase/
18:22 cait              ok, I better go and read something
18:21 chris_n           oleonard: this stinks... http://editor.datatables.net/
18:19 cait              meaning he is a search expert
18:19 cait              jcamins is the man to about that :)
18:18 alaquerre         jcamins : interesting :-)  What does that involve ? Is there a ticket I can read about it ?  Precise search result is for us a big priority.
18:18 francharb         next step will be to get the database strucure from a fresh install and compare it to mine
18:17 jcamins           alaquerre: we should always use an unambiguous syntax for searching, but no one has sponsored fixing it.
18:17 francharb         cait, yep but for the moment I just an install to update my training presentation
18:16 cait              it's your test installation?
18:16 alaquerre         jcamins : for my understanding , why we dont always use the same  CCL type ?, I mean why would we like to have 2 kind of search where 1 return X result and the other one Y results ?... ( In my example, I have X=12, Y=183).
18:16 cait              hope it's ok
18:16 cait              :)
18:16 francharb         eveything is fine
18:16 francharb         at the end
18:15 francharb         but i think everything was already there
18:15 francharb         i can log to koha
18:15 francharb         cait, so, i rerun the update
18:14 cait              crossing fingers :)
18:14 francharb         ok i'm going to do this so..
18:13 alaquerre         You mean the split of the search using AND between word ?
18:13 jcamins           francharb: yes, that won't be a problem.
18:13 jcamins           alaquerre: yes, that's what I was referring to.
18:13 francharb         cait, do you think i can rerun the update?
18:13 cait              allow_add
18:12 alaquerre         We currently end up with huge difference between "regular" seach and "superuser" search. ( Searching for exaclty the same string)
18:12 cait              32 added a new column to virtualshelves
18:12 cait              francharb: perhaps check a bit before 33? to make sure you have other updates?
18:12 francharb         :)
18:12 francharb         for the help and the support
18:12 francharb         cait++
18:12 francharb         jcamins++
18:12 cait              was about to suggest that :)
18:12 francharb         cait, yep
18:12 cait              right :)
18:12 cait              ah
18:11 cait              jcamins: do you think it could work to set the kohaversion to something before 33 and enforece another update?
18:11 francharb         and i've got my items back
18:11 alaquerre         So I looked at the problem of search I talked 1 hour ago.  Here's the deal : Doing a search using the quick search field is different than typing the search with the index.  Libeo told me that when we do specified the index name, the search is done using the CCL type.  While doing the search as a "regular" user wont.
18:11 francharb         cait, jcamins, i just changed the version to 3.07.0.032, ran the upadatedatabase
18:11 cait              so you are missing a lot :(
18:11 cait              the suspend cololumn was added with 42 - and holding.opac_info with 33
18:11 francharb         \0/
18:11 jcamins           alaquerre: kind of.
18:10 cait              francharb: it's weird - but it seems you are missing more than one
18:10 cait              both
18:09 cait              jcamins: ?
18:09 cait              or 42?
18:09 alaquerre         jcamins : are you still available ?
18:09 cait              hm
18:09 cait              let's find out when suspend was added
18:09 jcamins           You missed 3.07.0.033.
18:09 cait              hm
18:09 francharb         I can't remember
18:08 francharb         good question
18:08 francharb         humm
18:08 cait              from which version?
18:08 cait              francharb: do you know from where you did update?
18:08 francharb         anyway, i'm going to correcy this manually
18:08 cait              it's a database problem
18:08 cait              I think that too
18:08 cait              yep
18:08 jcamins           francharb: yes, so one of the updatedatabase statements must have not ever been run for some reason.
18:07 francharb         i did it like many times
18:07 wahanui           it has been said that jcamins is an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra
18:07 francharb         but jcamins
18:07 jcamins           Missing an updatedatabase.
18:07 francharb         [Mon Apr 30 20:01:37 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Mon Apr 30 20:01:37 2012] detail.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'holding.opac_info' in 'field list' at /home/francois/Workspace/koha-community/C4/Items.pm line 1205.
18:07 francharb         [Mon Apr 30 20:00:37 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Mon Apr 30 20:00:37 2012] detail.pl: DBD::mysql::st fetchrow_hashref failed: fetch() without execute() at /home/francois/Workspace/koha-community/C4/Reserves.pm line 284.
18:07 francharb         [Mon Apr 30 20:00:37 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Mon Apr 30 20:00:37 2012] detail.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'suspend' in 'field list' at /home/francois/Workspace/koha-community/C4/Reserves.pm line 281.
18:07 francharb         [Mon Apr 30 20:00:37 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Mon Apr 30 20:00:37 2012] detail.pl: DBD::mysql::st fetchrow_hashref failed: fetch() without execute() at /home/francois/Workspace/koha-community/C4/Items.pm line 1216.
18:06 cait              like columns missing?
18:06 cait              oh wow
18:06 cait              oh what is it?
18:06 francharb         there are fields missing in the item table
18:06 wahanui           cait: I forgot it
18:06 cait              forget it
18:06 wahanui           or automatically added
18:06 cait              oh what is it?
18:06 francharb         cait, i think, I found out
18:05 cait              if there is an entry for that page
18:05 cait              and check the last few lines
18:05 cait              I think perhaps try and go where an item shoud display
18:04 cait              well you can show us :)
18:04 cait              ah
18:04 francharb         ;)
18:04 francharb         cait, to me logs are like a big forest where you don"t know where to look at
18:03 wahanui           it has been said that lost is the field in the database I think
18:03 cait              lost?
18:03 francharb         but you"re right
18:03 francharb         ;)
18:03 francharb         cait, the thing is that i don"t want to get lost...
18:02 cait              the logs might give some hint why it#s not being displayed
18:02 cait              it#s there in the items table, right?
18:02 cait              francharb: perhaps you can check your logs?
18:02 francharb         hummm
18:02 wahanui           somebody said nothing here was built for this kinda weather
18:02 francharb         nothing here
18:02 francharb         but still
18:02 francharb         i create a new item
18:02 francharb         pffff
17:58 francharb         hehe
17:58 * jwagner         crosses various appendages
17:58 francharb         ;)
17:58 francharb         everybody cross their fingers!
17:58 francharb         yep
17:57 jwagner           that sounds like a probable culprit, then
17:57 francharb         but it's just a configuration pb
17:57 francharb         so i guess it's not on the table level
17:57 francharb         and i can edit an item as well
17:57 francharb         a marc bibio
17:56 francharb         now i can edit a marc xml
17:56 francharb         I dropped everyrhtinh and insert good one
17:56 francharb         but i just realised that my biblio_framework table did'nt match my frameworks
17:56 jwagner           Only a possibility if you imported the bibs -- if you created them inside Koha, they should be correct
17:56 francharb         jwagner, i'm going to check this, thanks
17:55 cait              oh
17:55 jwagner           francharb, have you looked at your item data at the table level?  I've seen a lot of data imported in batches with incorrect branchcode values, like lower case instead of all caps.  Make sure your policy codes are correct for starters
17:55 francharb         cait, the word disappear
17:55 cait              do I want to know?
17:55 cait              and what happens when you unhighlight?
17:55 francharb         nope
17:55 cait              opachiddenitems maybe?
17:54 francharb         ;)
17:54 francharb         and scream later
17:54 francharb         lets go digging  further!
17:54 francharb         but well, i'm just guessing
17:54 francharb         obviously, it's related to my biblio frameworks
17:53 francharb         but like chris_n, I need to scream
17:53 francharb         I'm sure I'm about to find out why I can"t see any items on my installation!
17:52 * chris_n         is in his office... other offices are nearby... and the library is just across the hall
17:51 cait              if not... scraming might be an option
17:51 cait              chris_n: or easily frigthened animals?
17:51 cait              chris_n: are kids near you?
17:50 jcamins           Yeah, I can understand that.
17:50 jcamins           Ah.
17:50 chris_n           I occasionally get the urge while debugging code involving jQuery plugins
17:48 jcamins           chris_n: what about?
17:48 * chris_n         wonders if screaming is an option
17:15 jcamins           Nope.
17:15 francharb         so, it's not my set up...
17:15 jcamins           Same problem with MARC21 when XSLT is turned off.
17:15 francharb         ok
17:15 jcamins           Huge, even.
17:15 jcamins           That's a pretty big bug.
17:14 jcamins           Wow.
17:14 jcamins           Oh my!
17:14 francharb         oki
17:14 jcamins           I just turned off XSLT. Let me try again.
17:14 francharb         but since, there is something wrong with my items
17:13 francharb         and the unhighligh button remove the word itself...
17:13 alaquerre         Thanks for the info jcamins, I see this on my side now.
17:13 francharb         so do i
17:13 jcamins           I'm on latest master right now.
17:13 francharb         off
17:13 jcamins           Maybe I need to have XSLT on or off?
17:13 francharb         do you have 3.8 kohga?
17:13 jcamins           francharb: that seems to work fine.
17:12 francharb         jcamins, you just need to run a search and click on the unhilight button
17:12 jcamins           alaquerre: if your javascript were working correctly, it would do that, if I understand what you're saying correctly.
17:12 alaquerre         How can I do easily : se:du AND se:monde AND se:entier one shot ?  ( I just realize, I dont undestand how koha is working with index. )
17:12 jcamins           francharb: sure, I can do that.
17:11 jcamins           Sounds to me like it's not working right.
17:11 jcamins           alaquerre: oh, this is some custom javascript you guys have?
17:11 francharb         i would like you to test the unhighlght button on the intranet
17:11 alaquerre         jcamins : why exactly ?  because, I dont write "se:du monde entier", I just enter du monde entier in the quick search (opac) and select collection.  (The "se" is added by itself)
17:10 jcamins           francharb: possibly. It depends what you need tested. ;)
17:10 francharb         it's a vey quick test
17:10 francharb         jcamins, could you test something for me?
17:10 francharb         soooo
17:09 jcamins           Better to use the advanced search for the search you want to do.
17:09 jcamins           That's equivalent to se:du AND kw:monde AND kw:entier
17:08 alaquerre         the search we are doing is : "se:du monde entier"
17:08 jcamins           There's the problem.
17:08 alaquerre         No se:du monde entier
17:08 jcamins           That is correct.
17:08 alaquerre         From what I understand, title-series use couple of field in 400 and some in 800.  Nothing in 500.
17:08 jcamins           Sounds like you've been editing your record.abs file.
17:08 jcamins           You searched se:"du monde entier" and it brought up results?
17:07 alaquerre         We search this : "du monde entier" and this string is only available in the 520 field.
17:06 jcamins           That is very odd.
17:06 alaquerre         jcamins: The problem we have is that when we do : se:test, it will also search in feild that are not configured in title-series.
17:05 jcamins           Unfortunately :phrase doesn't do what you think it does, so just focus on :w.
17:05 jcamins           :word and :phrase
17:05 alaquerre         Hi all, question about the zebra configuration.  In record.abs : melm 440        Title-series:w,Title-series:p,Title,Title-series.   What is the meaning of the ":w" and ":p" added after title-series ?  We have some noise in the results using  search that include index ( se:test )
17:03 jcamins           Uh-oh. That doesn't sound good.
17:03 francharb         i think i just discovered something very weird
17:02 francharb         hummm
16:54 francharb         thanks
16:54 jcamins           Good luck.
16:54 francharb         ;)
16:54 francharb         thanks jcamins, i'm going to dig into my koha logs!
16:53 jcamins           :)
16:53 jcamins           Well, this means you'll have in the logs an explanation.
16:52 francharb         but it looks like an xslt pb
16:52 francharb         \0/
16:52 francharb         "software error" on the opac!
16:52 francharb         ahah i'm cursed
16:51 francharb         jcamins, i check thant
16:51 jcamins           Same problem in OPAC and Intranet?
16:51 francharb         still no items
16:51 jcamins           francharb: didn't work?
16:51 francharb         snifff jcamins
16:51 francharb         oups
16:51 francharb         snifff janPasi
16:47 francharb         i'm trying
16:47 francharb         oki
16:46 jcamins           francharb: try again. I had that happen before, and it was because updatedatabase didn't run, but I thought I had remembered.
16:46 francharb         well, I'm going to run it again
16:46 francharb         but I'm sure I did it
16:46 francharb         jcamins, really?
16:45 jcamins           francharb: updatedatabase didn't run.
16:44 francharb         I know they are here!
16:44 francharb         i can"t see why....
16:44 francharb         ?
16:43 francharb         can someone tell me why I don"t have holdings on the biblio detail page even if i _do_ have holdings for this f**** biblio
16:43 francharb         hey
16:32 kf                yep :)
16:32 wizzyrea          lucky!
16:29 kf                holiday here tomorrow
16:29 kf                bye till wednesday :)
16:15 chris_n           lunch
15:56 chris_n           I've added sanity checks for both file type and size
15:56 chris_n           k
15:56 jcamins           chris_n: yes please.
15:55 * chris_n         does not want to rob jcamins of the credit :)
15:55 chris_n           jcamins: shall I just make the changes and squash it all in?
15:55 jcamins           And that's it.
15:55 jcamins           And I added the text " (press Enter when you have finished editing to save the changes)" after "Click Source or Text field to edit."
15:55 * chris_n         actually dislikes the way it displays currently, and was hoping that oleonard might lend it his touch after the bugs are worked out
15:54 jcamins           I changed QOD to QOTD on tools-home.
15:54 chris_n           good idea
15:54 jcamins           I wanted to add this span around the " ~ " on opac-main: <span id="daily-quote-sep">
15:53 jcamins           chris_n: actually, my notes describe the entire results.
15:53 jcamins           How about I tell you what result I was going for?
15:52 jcamins           Oy.
15:52 * chris_n         has a bad habit of force-pushing; that may mess things up a bit, sorry
15:52 jcamins           Thanks.
15:51 chris_n           jcamins: enhancement/bug_7977_csv
15:51 jcamins           chris_n: remind me which branch to use?
15:50 Oak               Linux 'fortune' program?
15:50 jcamins           chris_n: Lemme try.
15:50 Oak               where will it get quotes from?
15:49 chris_n           a bug with bugs... imagine that ;-)
15:49 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage
15:49 kf                bug 7977
15:49 chris_n           any chance you can rebase from my repo and fix?
15:49 chris_n           jcamins: your patch for 7977 does not apply cleanly; it conflicts in opac-main.tt for some reason
15:47 Oak               okay, then back to work... hm
15:46 kf                1 hour at elast I think
15:46 Oak               how long?
15:46 jcamins           Yeah, understandable.
15:46 Oak               :(
15:46 chris_n           tablesort, although alot of it is rot
15:46 kf                have to do some data testing
15:46 kf                Oak: can't
15:45 Oak               time to go home kf ?
15:45 chris_n           opps
15:45 Oak               kia ora #koha
15:45 chris_n           I plan on fixing the tablesrot after lunch
15:45 chris_n           jcamins: I was about to start that when I inadvertently attempted to upload a 3G file... needless to say, that suddenly took priority
15:43 jcamins           chris_n: did you fix sorting in the QOTD table?
15:39 sekjal            unite the tables, add auto-increment, then split again... could work
15:38 sekjal            slef:  interesting...
15:38 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8028 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Needs Signoff , Make table collapsing on parcel.pl sticky
15:38 jcamins           Bug 8028
15:37 reiveune          bye
15:37 slef              anyone horrified by that?
15:37 slef              I wonder if I could copy all the old_reserves back through the reserves table
15:37 slef              oh dear oh dear oh dear
15:37 wizzyrea          right they said they're sloped roof ones :)
15:37 slef              kf: wizzyrea: yeah, they're not much like them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EdinburghCoffeeBox.jpg could be the one just behind Teviot
15:28 * jcamins         learns about Kexi and Glom.
15:25 kf                wizzyrea: hope they work correctly, might be hard to get them home on a plane ( two-ton cast-iron structures ...
15:12 jcamins           *auto-incrementing primary key for old_reserves
15:11 jcamins           slef: that's sekjal's call. I guess I'm not completely wed to the idea of a primary key, provided you can have a DISTINCT index which allows multiple NULLs.
15:11 wizzyrea          well now I have to go to kohacon - to pick up my TARDIS: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-04-30/doctor-who-fans-here's-your-chance-to-own-a-tardis
15:09 slef              or does anyone know how to do something like alter reserves add column reservenumber int(11) auto_increment = (select max(reservenumber) from old_reserves); without a syntax error?
15:09 slef              making one auto_increment continuous over two tables is a complete pain in mysql. It looks like everything will result in mysql copying the table. Is it really so awful to have pre-reservenumber entries in old_reserves with a NULL?
15:08 chris_n           1500 quotes == 326K
15:08 wizzyrea          that's a lot of plaintext.
15:08 * chris_n         thinks 512K might be large
15:08 jcamins           And 98MB. Etc.
15:08 jcamins           And 100MB.
15:08 jcamins           Also 512MB.
15:08 chris_n           lol
15:08 jcamins           1GB too.
15:07 jcamins           chris_n: 3GB? :P
15:07 chris_n           1M perhaps?
15:07 chris_n           anyone have a thought on what an excessively large csv size might be?
15:04 jcamins           *timeline
15:04 jcamins           As proven by my timline.
15:03 jcamins           They are.
15:00 kf                they are doors into a world full of awesomeness... ;)
14:59 sekjal            kf: will look at those soon, yes
14:59 wizzyrea          hm upon further inspection, perhaps not
14:58 jcamins           sekjal++
14:58 wizzyrea          but I think my patches got mucked up so will have to wait until it's pushed to master to send I think
14:57 wizzyrea          I have a few more UI things left
14:56 kf                sekjal++ too :)
14:56 kf                sekjal: report service and dom indexing - pretty please? :)
14:55 sekjal            jcamins: nice work!
14:55 sekjal            no problem, wizzyrea.  sorry for my slowdown lately; new job is picking up for the end of term
14:54 wizzyrea          sekjal++ thanks for the qa's
14:53 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Report webservices
14:53 wahanui           Bug 7249 is particularly cool.
14:53 jcamins           Bug 7249
14:53 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Passed QA , Caching for services
14:53 jcamins           All we need for the timeline is bug 7248 and 7249. :)
14:53 wizzyrea          :D
14:53 jcamins           :D
14:53 jcamins           wizzyrea: isn't it?
14:53 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8019 major, P2, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Preserve language choice between Browser sessions
14:53 * oleonard        would sign off on bug 8019 if he could reproduce the problem
14:53 wizzyrea          oh hey that's really cool jcamins
14:50 kf                lol
14:50 * jcamins         looks for other people to show of his latest obsession to.
14:49 jcamins           And http://screencast.com/t/yHqqZXEN is a very cool timeline.
14:49 jcamins           [off] demo.cplibraries.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=38834 (notice the Wikipedia links and map)
14:49 jcamins           sekjal: BTW, I don't think I've showed off the super-cool stuff I did over the weekend.
14:43 chris_n           ahh... File() is my friend here
14:41 jcamins           BEGIN TRANSACTION will still seem to work in that case, but it won't actually do anything.
14:41 jcamins           The reason I suggest adding the LOCK TABLES statement as well is because someone might have done something stupid like use MyISAM.
14:41 jcamins           Yup.
14:40 slef              what's the client? browser?
14:39 chris_n           the file is loaded into client memory using FileReader()
14:39 slef              I ought to pay more attention to it.
14:39 chris_n           slef: this is not server-side
14:39 slef              oh mysql does BEGIN/COMMIT too now?
14:38 jcamins           slef: BEGIN TRANSACTION; LOCK TABLES old_reserves, reserves; ... UNLOCK TABLES; COMMIT;
14:38 slef              chris_n: can't the server just close the connection before the request body is sent if it doesn't like the look of the Content-Length?
14:37 * chris_n         grumbles about there being no way to limit upload filesize before/during the upload
14:37 jcamins           slef: I'm suggesting doing both.
14:37 slef              I'm more used to BEGIN ... COMMIT ;-)
14:36 slef              is that just a case of "lock tables old_reserves, reserves;" and then "unlock..." at the end?
14:35 jcamins           Oh, and lock the tables at the beginning of the transaction.
14:35 sekjal            slef:  that sounds reasonable, yes, so long as it's kept pretty atomic
14:34 jcamins           The problem with the iterative approach was that it resulted in an off-by-one error.
14:33 jcamins           But check with sekjal.
14:33 jcamins           Oh, but there should be a DISTINCT index on reservenumber in old_reserves.
14:33 jcamins           slef: if you do it in a transaction that sounds reasonable.
14:32 slef              would that cover it?
14:32 slef              ok sekjal and jcamins what if I alter old_reserves add column reservenumber int(11) auto_increment; alter old_reserves alter column reservenumber int(11);   alter reserves add column reservenumber int(11) auto_increment = (select max(reservenumber) from old_reserves); or however I do that without a syntax error?
14:32 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7065 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , reserves table needs a primary key
14:32 hdl               bug 7065
14:31 jcamins           (custom reports, etc.)
14:30 jcamins           slef: I had in mind general statistics reporting.
14:29 slef              jcamins: reports/reserves_stats.pl  you mean?
14:29 jcamins           slef: statistics.
14:28 slef              jcamins: what for?
14:28 jcamins           My objection to 7065 was how it was done.
14:28 jcamins           slef: there definitely needs to be a populated primary key in old_reserves.
14:28 oleonard          wahanui's cheeky this morning
14:28 jcamins_away      kf: yup, looks good. :)
14:27 wahanui           slef: I forgot so
14:27 slef              wahanui: forget so
14:27 wahanui           i guess so is there an expirationdate and an expiredate?
14:27 kf                jcamins_away: ok so?
14:26 slef              sekjal: I'm just going to check what old_reserves is used for.
14:26 sekjal            such a data inconsistency introduces complication in support and possible feature development
14:26 kf                rmaint are rangi and jcamins, rangi does 3.8.x, jcmains 3.6.x
14:26 slef              oic
14:26 wahanui           RMaint are rangi and jcamins
14:26 kf                RMaint?
14:26 kf                RMaint
14:26 * jcamins_away    lets kf correct it.
14:26 kf                RMaint are rangi and jcamins
14:26 slef              kf: :(
14:25 wahanui           jcamins_away, I didn't have anything matching rmaint
14:25 jcamins_away      wahanui: forget RMaint
14:25 wahanui           kf: I forgot rmaint
14:25 kf                wahanui forget RMaint
14:25 sekjal            then upgraded installs will have NULLs in old_reserves for most of their data, while new installs will have no such NULLs
14:25 wahanui           okay, slef.
14:25 slef              wahanui: RM is also paul_p
14:25 wahanui           RMaint is jcamins
14:25 jcamins_away      RMaint?
14:25 wahanui           ...but rm is busy :)...
14:25 slef              wahanui: RM is paul_p
14:25 wahanui           OK, slef.
14:25 slef              wahanui: RMaint is jcamins
14:25 kf                slef: yes, enough to avoid loosing data
14:25 jcamins_away      Yes, I'm RMaint for 3.6.
14:25 sekjal            if we add an auto-increment to reserves, and leave old_reserves reservenumber as just a place holder
14:25 slef              kf: alter table old_reserves add reservenumber int(11); makes them close enough the same structure, no?
14:24 kf                hi wizzyrea :)
14:24 slef              http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?YouAintGonnaNeedIt
14:24 kf                which happened in the past...
14:24 * wizzyrea        waves
14:24 kf                they have to be same structure, or we will silently loose the reserves
14:24 slef              kf: maybe but YouAintGonnaNeedIt
14:24 slef              sekjal: so I add reservenumber int(11) to old_reserves. Same structure.
14:23 sekjal            but it might
14:23 kf                slef: wouldn't it be more clean to add numbers throughout?
14:23 sekjal            I can't think of a feature that would use the key on old_reserves right now
14:23 sekjal            slef:  best to try to fill it in if we can, so we wind up with the same data structure on old installs as well as new
14:22 slef              sekjal: why does it? old_reserves will never be addressed by reservenumber, so I'm comfortable with some NULLs in there.
14:22 slef              oooookaaaaay so why is kyleh_ doing it more complex?
14:21 sekjal            one complication:  reservenumber has to be unique across both reserves and old_reserves
14:21 slef              I'm sure it never used to
14:21 slef              it does in mysql 5
14:21 slef              oh
14:21 sekjal            it doesn't auto-populate?  dang
14:20 slef              sekjal: populating it with numbers.
14:20 sekjal            slef: couldn't we just alter reserves to add the column?  or does the "INSERT SELECT *,NULL" fix a gap I'm not seeing?
14:18 chris_n           or at least ask for a sanity check before attempting to slurp it up
14:18 chris_n           so I will now add some code to reject super-large files
14:18 * chris_n         accidentally clicked on the wrong file...
14:17 oleonard          that's a lot of quotes chris_n
14:17 kf                slef: no idea really and our libraries are so small - unlikely here
14:15 slef              kf: any idea if it's big enough to cause problems?
14:15 chris_n           it will absolutely slay your computer :-P
14:15 kf                slef: I thin only problem might be that the table can be quite big?
14:15 chris_n           btw, a word to the wise... don't try to upload a 3G file with the quotes uploader....
14:14 slef              I don't see how to do it with an UPDATE. I tries messing with LAST_INSERT_ID(...) but I seem to get an error every time.
14:13 slef              create table newreserves like reserves; alter table newreserves add column reservenumber int(11) not null auto_increment primary key; insert into newreserves select *,null from reserves; drop table reserves; rename table newreserves to reserves;
14:13 slef              I think the simplest way is
14:13 slef              adding an auto_increment column
14:13 sekjal            and 7065 seems awfully verbose
14:12 sekjal            why would you need to copy/drop/rename, instead of just rename?
14:12 slef              patch doesn't apply there... let me just note that
14:11 sekjal            ah ha
14:11 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7065 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , reserves table needs a primary key
14:11 slef              bug 7065
14:11 sekjal            what's the goal of the updatedatabase command?
14:11 wahanui           okay, slef.
14:11 slef              wahanui: QAM is also sekjal
14:10 sekjal            slef:  yes, I'm still QAM
14:10 wahanui           errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit!
14:10 slef              wahanui: die!
14:10 wahanui           I like *your* figure
14:10 slef              wahanui: figures
14:10 wahanui           slef: i don't know
14:10 slef              wahanui: I agree but who is it!
14:10 wahanui           i think QAM is the big one IMHO
14:10 slef              wahanui: QAM?
14:10 slef              and are you still QA? ;)
14:10 slef              sekjal: is there any objection from QA if updatedatabase copies a table, drops the old one and renames the new one to take the old name?
14:09 sekjal            good morning, slef, magnuse
14:08 magnuse           kia ora sekjal
14:08 slef              hi sekjal
14:07 slef              alter table old_reserves add column reservenumber int(11);
14:06 * slef            realises that phone has been plugged in for an hour but the charger was not switched on at the wall. Oops.
14:05 slef              Why shouldn't I do that?
14:05 slef              create table newreserves like reserves; alter table newreserves add column reservenumber int(11) not null auto_increment primary key; insert into newreserves select *,null from reserves; drop table reserves; rename table newreserves to reserves;
14:05 * magnuse         looks towards slef too
14:04 * chris_n         looks toward slef
14:03 slef              bwahahaha
14:02 * paul_p          switches to pushing "passed QA" again ;-)
13:55 * kf              adds that to the 'to test' list
13:54 drojf             hm ok, that might be a problem
13:54 drojf             no i won't ;)
13:54 kf                even if someone reserved it in the meantime
13:53 kf                you could argue that someone who is standing in the queue with the book shoudl get it
13:53 kf                both can make sense
13:53 kf                drojf: it depends
13:53 drojf             but i have not used it
13:53 drojf             kf: would not make sense if someone else could check it out
13:51 * kf              tries again
13:51 kf                allowonshelfholds question - if the item is placed on hold, but not yet pulled - can someone else check it out and is there a parameter so that they can't?
13:50 kf                ok
13:48 kf                but guess I will have to ask them to test and do some testing on my own
13:48 kf                and I wondered if it works
13:48 kf                slef: none of our libraries currently does
13:46 slef              kf: if our libraries aren't using opacallowholddateinfuture they probably will in the near future. One of them loves fun hold options. Why?
13:43 kf                once he figured out how the rm scripts work
13:43 kf                so the decision should be his
13:43 kf                jcamins is taking over as release maintainer
13:43 kf                slef: I think there will be more 3.6.x releases
13:43 kf                is someone useing OPACAllowHoldDateInFuture?
13:38 slef              or someone should decide it's WONTFIX
13:37 slef              bug is tagged rel_3_6, should be fixed in 3.6
13:37 slef              why?
13:36 schuster          I've emailed them to check it in 3.8 and see if it is working and close it or email me to close it.
13:35 slef              bug is tagged rel_3_6 anyway
13:35 slef              does it really not work in 3.6?
13:35 schuster          I just did as well.
13:35 slef              schuster: bug report doesn't say what they were searching for.
13:34 slef              I've searched prefs in 3.8 OK.
13:33 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , When you search preferences, instead of getting a result Koha reports software error
13:33 schuster          Can anyone else confirm that this bug 7522 has been resolved in 3.8?  I see it not working in 3.6, but the "demo" systems seem to be fine now.
13:32 kf                :)
13:32 * oleonard        waves :)
13:32 kf                oleonard++ chris_n++
13:31 kf                and owen looks after template bugs :)
13:31 * oleonard        grumble grumble git bz typo grumble
13:31 kf                like labels
13:31 kf                with exception for the modules that actually have active maintainers
13:31 slef              I don't understand the current code :(
13:31 kf                I think we could perhap shandle the default assignee like the qa team
13:31 kf                but I might write up something on the wiki soon for the meeting after that /hackfest
13:31 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7065 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , reserves table needs a primary key
13:31 slef              for bug 7065
13:31 * slef            ponders using a mysqlism on the *reserves table
13:31 kf                I guess it will be a quiet meeting, going to skip it
13:30 slef              I doubt I will though.
13:30 slef              kf: if I make that one I'll be asleep but I'll try to rememberto ask huginn to tell you
13:29 kf                at the kohacon12 one
13:29 kf                slef: warn me before - so I don't end up alone :)
13:28 slef              if I make that I won't make the kohacon12 one. Bleah.
13:28 wahanui           OK, slef.
13:28 slef              wahanui: next meeting is Wednesday 2012-05-02 02:00:00 +0000
13:28 wahanui           slef: I forgot next meeting
13:28 slef              wahanui: forget next meeting
13:28 wahanui           ...but next meeting is next Wednesday, 18:00 UTC...
13:28 slef              wahanui: no, next meeting is Wednesday 2012-05-02 02:00:00 +0000
13:26 kf                slef: lol - don't think that will work well :)
13:26 wahanui           slef: what?
13:26 slef              wahanui: liar!
13:26 wahanui           next meeting is next Wednesday, 18:00 UTC
13:26 slef              wahanui: next meeting?
13:26 slef              kf: write a statement and put it on agenda and send apologies... remote control discussions
13:25 kf                next next... after the very early in the morning where I sleep one
13:25 kf                so perhaps I will try gather some suggestions for people to talk about at the hackfest and propose something next meeting
13:25 paul_p            kf++ !!!
13:25 kf                but the next meeting is at an unfortunate time :(
13:25 kf                paul_p: I woudl also like to talk about bug wranglers and default assignees for moudles - I think we can agree it does not work like it is now
13:24 kf                like we do with developers
13:24 kf                paul_p: a lit of people who signed off in the release notes
13:24 wahanui           slef is, like, an avid cyclist
13:24 paul_p            slef ???
13:24 slef              paul_p: giving signers equivalent prominence in release notes may help
13:23 drojf             slef: i read the log after kf told me so i know :)
13:23 slef              drojf: there's a lot of talk emails pending. We had a lot to review that arrived near deadline and I need to sift through them but it won't be today and probably not tomorrow :-(  but if you haven't heard yet, yours was accepted :-)
13:23 kf                bug wranglers could set the keyword too
13:23 kf                if we had a bugzilla keyword, devs could mark their sandbox testable patches and we could create a list of those to advertise to librarians
13:22 kf                or don?
13:22 kf                no command line operations, no reindex needed, database updates work I think?
13:22 kf                perhaps we could use a keyword - to mark patches that are sandbox testable?
13:22 kf                it's still a great thing
13:22 kf                paul_p: lots of things are hard to test there
13:21 paul_p            kf I was half kidding, agreed that a rule would be too hard ;-)
13:21 paul_p            seems that my sandbox system does not attract as many librarians as I was hoping...
13:21 kf                and perhaps result in not proper testing?
13:20 kf                a rule might be hard
13:20 kf                paul_p: I woud like that - but perhaps as advertising
13:20 paul_p            kf agreed.
13:20 paul_p            maybe "submit one sign-off one" rule or advertising program ?
13:20 kf                paul_p: I think more devs signing off would be good
13:20 kf                paul_p: difficult topic
13:19 * paul_p          is wondering how we could succeed motivating ppl to signoff patches...
13:19 chris_n           wb btw
13:19 paul_p            ;-)
13:19 chris_n           paul_p++
13:18 chris_n           paul_p pushing again
13:18 chris_n           hi kf
13:18 chris_n           making customization very straightforward
13:18 chris_n           so that we could allow for libraries of themes, etc
13:17 chris_n           oleonard: it would be nice to have it all rolled up into the concept of a global theme
13:17 kf                and then perhaps module by module?
13:17 kf                I think opac until we have worked out all the little quirks would perhaps be a good start?
13:16 oleonard          chris_n: I started looking at Bootstrap as a replacement grid for the OPAC, but I'm not sure about the staff client (huge project)
13:16 drojf             kf: i guess that would be enough
13:15 kf                drojf: would a printout of the schedule work too? Or do you need a formal letter?
13:15 oleonard          jQuery's themeroller only affects jQueryUI widgets, not whole layouts
13:15 chris_n           oleonard: are we planning to do away with yui griding and go with jQuery's themeroller
13:14 drojf             our librarian likes the new staff client layout in 3.8 :)
13:11 drojf             slef: will there be some kind of confirmation email for kohacon talks? i will probably need that to get the university to pay for my trip
13:10 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7849 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Instant Fine Calculation at Checkin
13:10 jenkins_koha      colin.campbell: Fix typo in patch for bug 7849
13:10 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #720: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/720/
13:08 slef              kf: probably should have done that before now...
13:07 drojf             hi slef and kf
13:06 kf                hi drojf :)
13:06 kf                slef: ahem? :)
13:05 slef              hello again drojf
13:03 drojf             hello again #koha
13:02 * slef            puts a deposit down for kohacon12 accommodation (ahem)
13:00 oleonard          ...and the compatibility fixes are pretty minor (and unrelated to autocomplete), so it shouldn't interfere with your testing
12:59 oleonard          kf you can test 7747 but the jquery-compatibility fixes in 5184 will not be there
12:59 kf                so next is testing 7747, or waiting until you do another patch?
12:58 kf                ah, that's already signed off
12:58 kf                so start stesting with 5158=
12:58 kf                hm
12:57 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Upgrade jQuery to the latest version
12:57 * oleonard        now realizes he should have left the updated jquery core js out of the patch and make it dependent on approval of bug 5184
12:56 oleonard          ...since I don't have much luck with gigantic world-changing patches
12:55 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7747 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI autocomplete with jQueryUI
12:55 oleonard          First incremental jQueryUI patch submitted: Bug 7747
12:46 hdl               hi kf*
12:32 kf                hi hdl :)
12:27 magnuse           w00t!
12:27 kf                we are on our way to the next version :)
12:27 kf                yay :)
12:23 magnus_lunch      fist push after 3.8? woohoo! :-)
12:21 jenkins_koha      Starting build #720 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:20 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7849' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07cc9cd8776fb752e33804971d4c855954c55114> / Fix typo in patch for bug 7849 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=49ba0df9e7925bf3bab66cbca22589076cdf887b>
12:20 kf                so if I am too slow with shift...
12:19 kf                . and : are on the same key on my keyboard
12:19 * oleonard        was ready to hand kf an eye patch
12:18 kf                :)
12:18 kf                hi oleonard .)
12:16 oleonard          Hi #koha
12:07 huginn            kf: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 13 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 13.
12:07 kf                @karma jcamins_away
12:07 kf                jcamins++
12:04 wahanui           mysql manual is http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/index.html
12:04 slef              wahanui: mysql manual?
12:02 kf                jcamins_away++ :)
12:01 jcamins_away      Me too!
12:01 magnuse           i hope semantikoha will mak stuff like that even easier, though :-)
12:00 magnuse           jcamins++ anyway!
12:00 jcamins_away      magnuse: yeah, I know. I haven't gotten around to fixing that yet.
12:00 kf                and then back to work! :)
12:00 magnuse           the accented o is truncated -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Machiavelli,%20Niccol
12:00 jcamins_away      Okay, now you may eat lunch. :)
11:59 magnuse           yay, cool
11:58 jcamins_away      Also, http://screencast.com/t/yHqqZXEN
11:58 jcamins_away      [off] http://demo.cplibraries.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=38834
11:58 magnuse           got a live example?
11:58 magnuse           jcamins_away: yeah, didn't test it out, though
11:58 * jcamins_away    is terribly proud of his maps and timelines.
11:57 jcamins_away      magnuse: you saw my nifty enhanced content, right?
11:57 * magnuse         wanders off to lunch
11:57 * jcamins_away    waves back at bug 7924
11:57 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7924 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Fix handling of command line arguments in koha-remove
11:57 magnuse           jcamins_away: bug 7924 is waving at you :-)
11:52 kf                yes, we need reserves and oldreserves and both should count up correctly... no duplicates
11:48 jcamins_away      slef: if you're talking about adding the primary key to reserves, make sure you take into account the comments on the bug.
11:34 slef              kf: utterly doesn't apply. I'll try to update it.
11:33 skk               ok
11:32 kf                and -b -r
11:32 kf                -a -r
11:32 kf                skk: perhaps try different runs
11:23 skk               can someone help
11:23 skk               no its still showing
11:19 skk               but we had done that
11:19 skk               let me try again
11:18 magnuse           with the -r switch?
11:18 skk               that is done
11:18 magnuse           skk: The most likely cause of this problem is the need to re-index the Zebra database. Simply execute ‘rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r’.
11:17 skk               we had imported some MARC records and then we deleted the database and created a fresh database but still we are seeing those imported records in OPAC how to get rid of these records pl. help
10:59 slef              cool, thanks kf
10:55 kf                :)
10:55 kf                slef: and it's waiting for a sign-off
10:55 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7065 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , reserves table needs a primary key
10:55 kf                bug 7065
10:54 kf                slef: noone knows - but there is a patch to fix it
10:35 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7717 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Multiple Identical Holds
10:35 slef              I've fixed bug 7717 except that the cancel hold function cancels all the holds - and the best fix I can do is to cancel the next hold but maybe the wrong hold because there's no way to uniquely identify a hold/reservation.
10:33 slef              anyone know why the reserves table doesn't have a primary key?
10:20 kf                what drojf says :)
10:18 samuel            yes. sure :-)
10:16 drojf             samuel: i did that with record.abs and had problems later. its maybe better to backup your changed files first, get the new file and then see what the changes are
10:14 samuel            oups, i 'm sleeping, it's the koha-httpd.conf (there is a new version of koha-httpd.conf: do you want to install it? keep the version installed?....)
10:11 kf                samuel: what's your error?
10:11 kf                it's only cosmetic
10:10 samuel            maybe. I've a 3.8 on my laptop, which i use for development and test but on our server, it fails. I wonder if  it's due to the koha-conf.xml (i've keeped the version installed)
10:10 drojf             that it is only the number
10:10 drojf             yeah i thought so
10:10 wahanui           I know.
10:10 kf                that's right
10:10 kf                yep
10:10 drojf             is my last
10:10 kf                I think that bit is missing
10:10 drojf             Upgrade to 3.07.00.049 done (Add system preference OpacBrowseResults )
10:10 kf                then a last one was done to only change the version
10:10 kf                49 was the last real update
10:10 drojf             there were several db updates though
10:09 drojf             Koha-Version: 3.07.00.049
10:09 huginn            kf: The operation succeeded.
10:09 kf                @later tell eythian - possible that the debian packages are missing the last database bump to 3.8? :)
10:08 kf                49 is correct for functionality - no worries. but it hsould tell you 3.8 :)
10:08 drojf             i think i have the same db number with debian package 3.8
10:08 kf                I wonder if the debian packages are missing the last update to the database
10:08 kf                hm
10:08 kf                hn
10:08 samuel            and during the aptitude update, koha has been updated
10:07 samuel            we use debian package
10:06 kf                samuel: how did oyu update?
10:05 samuel            but i keep my version (3.07.00.049)
10:05 kf                not sure why it happened, but you can probably safely ignore those
10:05 kf                it says that the fields already exist in your database
10:04 kf                it shoudl be ok
10:04 samuel            the second: [Mon Apr 30 11:59:44 2012] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate entry 'AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout' for key 'PRIMARY' at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 4672.
10:03 samuel            [Mon Apr 30 11:59:44 2012] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate column name 'patronreason' at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 4586. [Mon Apr 30 11:59:44 2012] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate entry 'AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout' for key 'PRIMARY' at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-b
10:03 samuel            I've just updated my koha and i've got some errors while the updating of the database  (...)
10:03 vkm               hi samuel
09:59 vkm               do we need y aditional soware to installft
09:59 vkm               please let me know the requirments for generating email alerts
09:13 drojf             ah :)
09:13 kf                it was one of my first patches I think, fixing that
09:12 kf                opacusercss was there before :)
09:12 kf                and we didn't always have intranetusercss
09:12 kf                not a real reason I guess
09:12 kf                hm
09:11 drojf             is there a reason why we have 'opacheader', but not 'intranetheader', while *usercss and *userjs exist for both?
08:29 kf                almost quiet
08:29 kf                and not a lot of issues with the release so far
08:28 paul_p            :D
08:28 kf                paul_p: trying to be optimistic
08:26 kf                but a nice garden will help you relax in the evenings now? :)
08:24 kf                oh
08:24 paul_p            hi kf. Too short. I feel as tired as before :\ -and I stayed at home, which is not the best idea one can have: I made a lot of things in my house & garden...)
08:22 kf                moin drojf :)
08:22 drojf             moin kf :)
08:17 kf                how was your vacation?
08:17 kf                good morning paul_p
08:15 paul_p            good morning #koha.
08:15 magnuse           kia ora paul_p!
08:14 * magnuse         will try to dedicate this friday to signing off
08:13 drojf             hi magnuse :)
08:13 magnuse           oh my 120 bugs need signoff
08:13 magnuse           hiya drojf
08:11 drojf             good morning #koha
08:04 kf                samuel++ :)
08:04 kf                hi samuel :)
08:01 samuel            hello everybody :-)
07:33 huginn            kf: The operation succeeded.
07:33 kf                @later tell fredericd - looking for you with a pootle question :)
07:32 kf                fredericd: around?
07:32 kf                hi magnuse
07:31 magnuse           guten morgen kf
07:23 kf                good morning #koha
07:16 gaetan_B          hello ::)
07:04 vkm               another thing is what is pre requirments before data import so that my authority and subject should also become searchable which is not at present
07:03 vkm               hello anybody
06:58 vkm               it picks hold limit from ALL item and ALL catogory rather than limit seted for that perticular item, version 3.6
06:57 vkm               i have tried it works only when we set up catogory all item type all but do not work with perticular catogory and item
06:56 vkm               can any body tell me how to set up for hold
06:56 wahanui           hola, reiveune
06:56 reiveune          hello
06:56 vkm               hello
06:55 wahanui           hi, vkm
06:55 vkm               hello
06:33 francharb         good morning #koha
05:30 vkm               means only allow hold when we set ALL catogory, ALL item, and the limit of hold is also taking from that setup only rather than indivisualy seted for individual item
05:29 vkm               any body know how to setup hold for perticular item type with number of hold limits, i have tried but it seems that system is taking the values when we set category all, item all
05:27 vkm               hi all
04:57 Space_Librarian   a bientot all!
04:48 eythian           *we get...
04:48 eythian           erk, when get the spammers when none of the ops seem to be online.
04:47 mermi             Excuse me. But would you please visit my website? www.elusiveparticle.tk Thank you so much!
04:42 cait              no, I just woke up :)
04:41 kathryn           goodnight!
04:40 kathryn           cait it feels a long time since i said hi to you this morning...I'm about to go home
04:39 kathryn           : )
04:39 kathryn           you too?!
04:39 cait              h kathryn - all still at work?
04:39 kathryn           hey cait :)
04:38 cait              oh hi eythian
04:37 eythian           hi cait
04:37 cait              hi #koha
04:10 kathryn           cheers
04:10 kathryn           will definitely do
04:08 mtj               if you cant get to the bottom of it - log a bug (with a screenshot)
04:08 mtj               no probs
04:06 kathryn           will pass that along - thanks again : )
04:06 kathryn           thanks heaps mtj, hmmn it happened in more than one instance O
04:04 mtj               some syspref is causing an html bug, that IE cant handle
04:03 mtj               done... it looks like your problem is specific to your Koha system?
04:01 kathryn           mtj still no. do you mind also flicking "TagsInputOnList" syspref on please?
03:56 kathryn           that's a pretty tame book cover, whew
03:54 mtj               ...book-cover on 1st result
03:54 mtj               [off] -> http://head.kohaaloha.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=sex
03:53 mtj               ... i've flicked on the google-jackets for opac
03:51 kathryn           mtj do you mind turning on the book covers? : )
03:49 mtj               (thats a 3.6.4 Koha now...)
03:48 kathryn           sorry for delays I'm tooing and froing!
03:45 mtj               [off] -> http://head.kohaaloha.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=food
03:45 mtj               so, how about now?
03:43 kathryn           thanks!
03:43 kathryn           no worries though I can get some help here tomorrow : )
03:42 kathryn           though
03:42 kathryn           hey mtj no it doesn't happen there have only noticed in 3.6.4
03:36 mtj               s/a/is a/
03:36 mtj               (that example a 3.8 Koha)
03:35 mtj               [off] -> http://head.kohaaloha.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=food
03:35 mtj               kathryn: does your problem exist here...
03:33 kathryn           mtj: hello, opac
03:33 mtj               kathryn: opac or staff interface?
03:30 Amit_Gupta        heya bag
02:57 eythian           http://contextfreepatentart.tumblr.com/post/21983874056
02:45 Space_Librarian   hey kathryn
02:45 kathryn           hi Space_Librarian
02:44 Space_Librarian   We're still 3.6.2, otherwise we'd check for you
02:41 kathryn           <---in the words of the person applying the design : )
02:41 kathryn           hi everyone, has anyone come across this problem, only in IE 8 or 9, and using 3.6.4 : "whenever you get to a search results list page, the first entry in the list is always bung"
02:00 jcamins_away      That's exactly what I want.
01:52 * chris_n         wanders off in search of sleep
01:52 chris_n           $sth->fetchall_json(format) or some such
01:50 chris_n           what would be nice would be a json method for statement handles
01:47 jcamins           Yeah, me too.
01:46 * chris_n         gave up trying to doing that with dbi
01:35 jcamins           But I wanted [ { column1: value, column2: value, ... } ] [...]
01:35 jcamins           And is using again.
01:35 jcamins           chris_n: yeah, that's what it was using before.
01:22 chris_n           nice looking timeline
01:20 chris_n           jcamins: fetchall_arrayref maybe your friend when converting to json