Time Nick Message 00:06 rangi hi Irma 00:07 Irma good day rangi 00:09 Irma back soon ... 00:09 jcamins_away Hehe. Bug 7989. 00:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7989 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , RIS export file type incorrect 00:09 jcamins_away That's a rabbit hole I don't want to go down. 00:29 jcamins_away I'm surprised it took almost until bug 8000 for someone to notice. 00:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8000 was not found. 03:13 chris_n hi hdl 03:13 * chris_n heads off to find sleep 03:14 hdl hi chris_n 03:14 hdl good night 04:40 eythian hi 04:40 cait morning #koha 04:50 Oak kia ora #koha 04:50 cait hi Oak :) 04:51 Oak hello cait :) 05:49 mtj any biblibrarian about yet? 05:50 mtj aah, still a little early for france 06:33 francharb good morning 06:33 cait good morning francharb 06:33 cait hi mt 06:33 cait mtj 06:33 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:33 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.7°C (8:29 AM CEST on April 23, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 06:47 marcelr hi koha 06:53 alex_a bonjour 06:54 mib_9q958v is it necessary to keep shelving location 07:03 reiveune hello 07:08 julian_m hi 07:08 wahanui niihau, julian_m 07:10 esofiane Hello #koha 07:24 magnuse @arewethereyet 07:24 huginn magnuse: YES! 07:24 magnuse w00t! 07:27 mveron Good morning #koha 07:27 magnuse hiya mveron 07:28 mveron hiya magnuse 07:33 mveron server related question: About koha->Perl modules shoews DateTime::TimeZone 1.20 in orange 07:33 mveron apt-show-versions indicates libdatetime-timezone-perl/squeeze uptodate 1:1.20-1+2010k 07:33 mveron Wrong package? 07:35 Irma hi all in #koha 07:35 magnuse kia ora Irma! 07:35 mveron hi Irma 07:35 magnuse mveron: looks like the newest version on cpan is 1.46 07:35 Irma hi magnuse we have not spoken for a while ... 07:35 magnuse too true! 07:36 Irma magnuse ... Me too I am excited oabout your family growing :-) 07:36 magnuse hehe, yay! 07:36 Irma magnuse how many more weeks? 07:36 magnuse Irma: are you going t edinburgh? 07:36 magnuse Irma: about 9 07:36 Irma yes and Bob too 07:37 magnuse the due date is June 26 07:37 magnuse aww, so sorry not to meet you there! 07:38 Irma 9 weeks pass fast if you have to get the room ready, the wardrobe filled with little items of clozing ... like size 000 and 00 07:38 Irma clothing 07:38 magnuse hehe 07:38 magnuse well, we got most of that covered already, i think 07:39 Irma wel done! 07:39 magnuse our guest room is turned into a children's room, and all the gear should be in place 07:39 magnuse the wife is in real "nest building" mode :-) 07:39 Irma for our first one we decided to wall paper the ceiling and that took some trial and error and lots of fun! 07:39 magnuse hehe 07:40 magnuse we just stuck some glow in the dark stars up there 07:40 Irma cute paper (French) blue with yellow stars ... 07:40 magnuse ooh, sounds lovely 07:40 Irma glow in the dark was still in the dark in 1983! 07:41 magnuse hehe, that's progress for you! :-) 07:41 Irma I'll keep my fingers crossed that all keeps growing as it should :-) 07:42 Irma question ... who can edit the http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Users_Worldwide pages? 07:42 Irma I have a few new libraries to add 07:42 magnuse Irma: thanks! 07:42 rangi It's a wiki anyone can :) 07:42 magnuse Irma: anyone with an account on the wiki can edit pages 07:43 Irma well not so for me when I tried rangi ;-) 07:43 Irma rangi I can login to the page but not save the changes 07:46 Irma rangi See: Irma my talk my preferences my watchlist my contributions log out 07:47 Irma == Oceania == 07:47 Irma {| class="wikitable sortable" 07:47 Irma |- 07:47 Irma ! Country 07:47 Irma ! Location 07:47 Irma ! Library Type 07:47 Irma ! Library Name 07:47 Irma ! Contact Name 07:47 Irma ! Notes 07:50 rangi There's nothing special about the page if you can edit any page you can edit it 07:51 Irma Ok ... I have tried again and the "Can't edit this page" message did not appear and all is good... 07:53 rangi Hmm you are editing the Oceania page eh? 07:53 Irma was and will again in a minute 07:54 rangi The users are now split up into continental pages 07:54 Irma no kidding ... I could not save my changes 07:54 rangi Because you were editing an old page? 07:55 Irma yes ===oceania==== page 07:55 Irma http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers/Oceania#Oceania 07:56 Irma is this the old page? 07:57 Irma Pages in category "Participation" http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Participation ... K cont. Koha Users Worldwide 07:59 kf hi #koha 08:01 magnuse guten tag kf 08:01 kf hi magnuse 08:01 kf hi sophie_m :) 08:02 sophie_m hi kf :-) 08:03 mveron hi kf 08:06 kf hi mveron 08:06 kf how was the lamp? 08:06 kf lamb... 08:06 mveron Lecker... 08:07 mveron There is some mor waiting for lunch... 08:10 gaetan_B hello :) 08:11 kf hi gaetan_B 08:21 magnuse does anyone know how far "Kuali OLE" (http://kuali.org/ole) has been developed? 08:21 rangi Release late, release rarely 08:21 magnuse hehe 08:21 rangi That's my only comment 08:22 kf I was at a presentation recently 08:22 kf trying to remember the time frame 08:22 magnuse according to http://kuali.org/OLE/Timeline it should be ready for implementation in december 2012 08:22 kf but I think it was september? 08:22 kf for a 1.0 release 08:22 kf ah, see, i got it wrong 08:22 magnuse that page says 1.0 in december 08:22 kf I think I meant the 0.8 08:22 kf in august 08:22 magnuse yeah, right ;-) 08:22 kf lol 08:23 kf ok, never ask me something about times and dates and numbers 08:23 magnuse hehe 08:23 rangi Anyone who makes up their own license is worrying about the wrong things 08:23 magnuse good one! 08:23 magnuse http://kuali.org/download - lots of "stuff" there 08:23 magnuse but "Kuali Open Library Environment (OLE) - Coming soon" 08:24 kf the whole development is done by one single company in india 08:24 magnuse ah, interesting 08:25 rangi Yeah specced by committee 08:25 rangi Built by one company 08:25 rangi Kinda the opposite 08:25 rangi Very old school dev model 08:25 magnuse yup 08:26 magnuse i'm writing a blog post about why BIBSYS should ditch oclc and go for open source 08:26 magnuse and was wondering if ole should be mentioned as an option 08:27 rangi Well theirs is community source 08:27 rangi I wouldn't, but that's just opinion 08:28 magnuse community source? 08:28 rangi Evergreen, newgenlib and koha 08:28 rangi Yeah they made that up too 08:28 kf magnuse: they call it community source 08:28 kf but I think people have problems to undestand the difference 08:29 drojf hi #koha 08:29 rangi It's using what looks like open source purely as a marketing tool 08:29 rangi Like some others we know 08:30 magnuse hehe 08:30 * magnuse sees java and windows and runs away http://www.verussolutions.biz/kb/installationNew 08:34 kf magnuse: http://demo.ole.kuali.org/ole-demo/portal.jsp 08:40 rangi Hi Paul 08:40 slef hi all 08:40 magnuse kia ora paul_p 08:40 magnuse @arewethereyet 08:40 huginn magnuse: YES! 08:42 paul_p hi magnuse & al. 08:43 kf hi paul_p 08:43 kf happy release day :) 08:43 paul_p kf s/release day/holiday/ ;-) (just after releasing) 08:44 kf brave 08:44 * paul_p has checked that none of the patch in "passed QA" status need to be pushed 08:46 * paul_p has checked that non of the patches in "signed off" status need to be pushed before releasing 08:47 magnuse guess bug 7984 never got a signoff... 08:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7984 major, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Fix the upload_local_cover_images permission 08:52 kf paul_p: oh yes, that is a good one and only affects sample files 08:52 kf so should be save 08:55 kf paul_p: don't forget the po files :) 08:57 kf ok...no I scared him away 09:05 slef added 3 more submissions to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Schedule#Papers 09:06 rangi Cool 09:06 slef assuming most talks get through, we've just about the right number 09:07 rangi Excellent 09:07 paul_p pfeww... my internet connexion at home is really slow ! 09:09 paul_p slef my proposal "community organisation + using sandbox" can probably fit in 30+15mn if you need to free a few minuts 09:13 mbalmer m'ning 09:14 mbalmer mveron, around? 09:14 mveron mbalmer: yes 09:14 slef paul_p: it depends if any papers are withdrawn or rejected. What would be good is a length for "Koha 3.8, what's new?" 09:15 mtj paul_p: about for a quick question re: image-carousel on Ouest Provence? 09:15 paul_p slef 30mn ? (not more) 09:15 paul_p mtj = I'm probably not the man you should ask. reiveune are your here ? 09:16 reiveune paul_p: yes 09:16 paul_p reiveune, mtj has a question for you about Ouest-Provence image carousel I think 09:17 mtj heya reiveune :) 09:17 reiveune ok, hi mtj :) 09:17 mtj is the folder with images created automatically? or by a librarian? 09:17 reiveune by a librarian 09:17 mtj very nice work! , too :) 09:18 reiveune thanks ;) 09:18 mtj ah, yes i guessed so... 09:19 mtj hmmm, next step - to automate the image creation in that folder... 09:19 mtj ok, thanks for the info 09:20 reiveune you're welcome 09:20 kf paul_p: will you push oleonard's patch too for the new design? 09:20 paul_p kf the follow-up you mean ? it is pushed (unless i made a mistake) 09:20 * paul_p can't check because translations are being merged) 09:20 kf checking 09:21 kf hm 09:21 kf not showing up on git.koha-community.yet 09:21 paul_p kf yes, because I haven't pushed yet. But I confirm it is on my computer 09:21 rangi That other grumpy Paul will complain again otherwise 09:21 rangi :) 09:21 paul_p :) 09:23 kf found it in the commit mail :) 09:25 kf oh wow, chinese is almost done for 3.8 09:25 kf didn't know chinese was so complete :) 09:25 magnuse cool 09:42 mle_ ¬¬ 09:42 kf hi mle 09:42 kf mle_: 09:46 mveron mbalmer: Was disconnected, back ow 09:49 mle_ : ) 09:49 vfernandes hi guys :) 09:51 vfernandes can someone help me with on thing related to Koha catalog searches? 09:51 drojf depends on the thing ;) 09:51 vfernandes in my installations the ordering by callnumber is not working 09:52 vfernandes searching by callnumber works fine, but ordering doesn't work 09:52 vfernandes any idea of what could be? 09:57 drojf maybe your setting for DefaultClassificationSource? not sure if that is relevant to sorting 09:58 kf I think it might be 09:58 kf vfernandes: in your items tabel- is cn_sort filled? 09:59 vfernandes i don't know what that configuration does.... i didn't understand the question kf 10:00 kf sorry, I have to go 10:00 kf vfernandes: there is a field in the items table 10:00 kf called cn_sort 10:00 kf that will be filled with a sorting form of the callnumber 10:00 kf according to your setting for classification source in 952$2 10:07 vfernandes PS__132_ALLNAT por exemplo no item number 1 10:07 vfernandes * for example in the item number 1 10:08 vfernandes and the itemcallnumber is PS.132 ALL*Nat 10:08 magnuse vfernandes: is that what it looks like in the database too? in the field that kf mentioned? 10:10 vfernandes itemcallnumber = PS.132 ALL*Natcn_sort: 10:10 vfernandes itemcallnumber = PS.132 ALL*Nat 10:10 vfernandes cn_sort = PS__132_ALLNAT 10:11 magnuse and does that reflect how you want the sorting to be done? 10:12 vfernandes the sorting does not work at all 10:12 magnuse it's completely random? 10:13 mib_o2382b crone job for zebra with -z should be excecuted from root or koha 10:13 mib_o2382b ??? 10:14 mtj mib_o2382b: koha, read the faq 10:14 vfernandes yes... for example "MQ.103 FER*Aná" before "9" and before "G.103 GON*Efi" 10:16 vfernandes in 0-9 A-Z... if i change to Z-A 9-0 the order is the same 10:18 vfernandes any idea magnuse? 10:19 magnuse sorry vfernandes, not really 10:19 vfernandes :/ 10:20 vfernandes this thing is strange 10:23 drojf1 vfernandes: not sure about that, but maybe it's neccessary to rebuild the index after changing the sort order? did you try that? 10:25 vfernandes drojf1... i didn't change anything 10:30 drojf1 (12:15:21) vfernandes: in 0-9 A-Z... if i change to Z-A 9-0 the order is the same 10:30 drojf1 you said you did ;) 10:31 vfernandes in the staff client interface 10:31 vfernandes "Sort By:" 10:36 drojf1 vfernandes: works fine for me. sorry, no idea 10:45 kf back 10:45 kf hi drojf1 10:46 drojf1 hi kf :) 10:50 drojf1 off to visit my library 10:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #718 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Release notes for 3.8.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c32a9f811d8506f9230be60e2410320141f786e> / fixing missing " in french syspref file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a4ea95fe66a7c7d2b212987f69b3f3c870ab015> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7979' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3466c33194540c6eb3c3f5bbcd62 10:55 paul_p rangi are you about or sleeping ? 10:55 kf hm 11 pm in nz now 10:56 paul_p yep. I think 3.8.0 won't be released today ... "make manifest tardist" don't work :(((( (and i'm totally unable to fix this kind of problem) 10:56 paul_p will send a mail to koha-devel to ask for help 10:57 kf what is your error message? perhaps someone else around here can help? 11:01 rangi Did u try building the tarbalk with the git command instead? And what's the error, and have u been doing dome test installs? 11:02 kf @later tell slef - if you need something to be reviewed - I will have time tonight 11:02 huginn kf: The operation succeeded. 11:03 madhu How to take out the spine labels 11:03 slef kf: I've a huge stack to be reviewed. I favour reviewing them in meeting on Wed. Would that be OK? 11:05 paul_p kf = mail to koha-devel on the way 11:05 paul_p kf mail sent 11:06 kf slef: sure 11:06 kf paul_p: mail what about? 11:06 kf you saw rangi's question? 11:06 paul_p kf i've sent a mail to koha-devel to explain the problem(s) i've 11:06 kf (13:01:13) rangi: Did u try building the tarbalk with the git command instead? And what's the error, and have u been doing dome test installs? 11:06 paul_p no, I missed rangi comment ! 11:06 paul_p thx kf 11:06 kf sure... 11:07 rangi git push --tags 11:08 paul_p rangi++ 11:08 rangi Dont need a 3.8.x yet, I can make that as release maint 11:09 kf rangi++ 11:10 kf slef: sure :) so Wednesday then :) 11:15 kf paul_p: does it work now? 11:15 Oak rangi++ 11:16 paul_p kf the tarball, yes. the tag, not yet. 11:17 kf wellmoving forward 11:18 rangi git archive --format=tar --prefix=koha-$VERSION/ $BRANCH | gzip > releases/koha-$VERSION.tar.gz 11:20 paul_p rangi yes, the tarball is OK. 11:20 paul_p but I can't find the correct syntax to push the tag, or I don't have permission: 11:20 paul_p ! [remote rejected] v3.08.00 -> v3.08.00 (hook declined) 11:20 kf what command did you try? 11:20 paul_p (I tried: git push --tags gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:koha.git v3.08.00 11:20 paul_p ) 11:21 rangi you've tagged eh? 11:21 paul_p (my family is waiting for me for the lunch, will be back in 30mn) 11:21 paul_p rangi locally ? yes 11:21 rangi Then push it to master 11:21 paul_p push it to master ??? 11:22 kf paul_p: if you go now 11:22 kf rangi will not be able to help you later on 11:22 paul_p yes, I know :\ 11:22 rangi You are telling it to push to a non existant branch 11:22 rangi It's a normal push, just with --tags 11:23 rangi So push to master like normal 11:24 paul_p rangi seems I don't have permission to write to /home/uploads/files 11:24 paul_p (I can SSH, i'm uploading to ~) 11:25 kf paul: perhaps helps when you show what you are trying to do? 11:26 paul_p kf I try to upload the tarball to download.kc.org, but don't have write permission. uploading to ~ for instance. 99% chances it's just a permission problem 11:27 kf guess that's gmcharlt? 11:27 kf perhaps trying to solve the tagging first? 11:27 paul_p kf, maybe, but I think chris also can. 11:27 reiveune1 bye 11:27 paul_p kf = I have to do both at the same time, because it's very long... 11:28 paul_p so, doing them in // 11:28 paul_p rangi I'm trying: git push --tags gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:koha.git HEAD:v3.08.00 11:28 paul_p that's how I push usually. 11:29 rangi With v3.08.00 ? 11:29 kf I think without, because does not exist yet? 11:29 paul_p git tag -l show me v3.08.00 11:29 paul_p , yes 11:29 rangi That branch doesnt exist 11:29 paul_p (locally) 11:29 rangi That's a tag 11:29 rangi Not a branch 11:30 paul_p so I need a tag AND a branch named v3.08.00 ? 11:30 rangi No just don't try to push to v3.08.00 11:30 paul_p I should push to master ! gotcha ! 11:30 * paul_p silly today 11:30 paul_p (maybe it's the "holiday effect" ;-) ) 11:31 paul_p rangi so just git push --tags gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:koha.git HEAD:master, right 11:32 rangi Yep 11:36 paul_p rangi still failed : ! [remote rejected] v3.08.00 -> v3.08.00 (hook declined) 11:36 chris_n paul_p: I have a script to handle rolling the tarbal, md5, and friends 11:37 paul_p chris_n I think it's a little too late... 11:37 chris_n git push --tags origin should work if you have the remote set right 11:37 * chris_n has about 20 mins to help 11:37 rangi Leave out the head:master bit 11:37 chris_n if you need it 11:37 * chris_n hands rangi coffee 11:38 chris_n strong coffee ;-) 11:38 * paul_p trying git push --tags gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:koha.git 11:38 * kf sends rangi chocolate 11:38 * paul_p think he already did (was my 1st try) 11:38 kf perhaps it's not tagged correctly locally? 11:39 paul_p kf how could I check ? when I do a git tag -l, I see the v3.08.00 11:39 kf not sure, but I am sure chris_n or rangi know 11:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #718: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/718/ 11:40 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7979: New design for staff interface + fixes + css call moved 11:40 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7979 [FOLLOW-UP] New design for staff interface 11:40 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Koha 3.8.0 Translation Update 11:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: [PATCH] Bug 7979 [FOLLOW-UP] New design for staff interface, rights fix 11:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7979 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , New design for staff interface 11:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7979 tiny follow-up for translatability (string freeze) 11:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: fixing missing " in french syspref file 11:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Release notes for 3.8.0 11:40 rangi want me to push the tag? and copy the files to the download dir? 11:41 chris_n paul_p does not have tag writing perms 11:42 paul_p rangi maybe that will be faster, but we will have to fix those problems later 11:42 * chris_n checked 11:42 chris_n om 11:42 paul_p chris_n how did you checked ? 11:42 rangi well, before the october 22 11:42 paul_p rangi yep ;-) 11:42 rangi can you fix his permissions chris_n 11:43 chris_n try now 11:43 paul_p ! [remote rejected] v3.08.00 -> v3.08.00 (hook declined) 11:43 paul_p again, it confirms something is not OK 11:43 chris_n om, adding another missing perm 11:44 paul_p chris_n (do you know that om in Marseille means "Olympique de Marseille", the soccer team, not "One Moment" ;-) ) 11:44 chris_n lol 11:44 chris_n try again please :) 11:45 * paul_p try again 11:45 chris_n you are ppoulain right? 11:45 paul_p chris_n I think so 11:45 paul_p why does he need to write so many objects ? 11:46 paul_p 10MB just to write a tag ? 11:46 chris_n ? 11:46 chris_n what command did you do? 11:46 paul_p git push --tags gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:koha.git HEAD:master v3.08.00 11:46 chris_n hmm 11:46 chris_n I do 'git push --tags origin' 11:47 chris_n and it takes about 2 secs 11:47 paul_p I have some other remotes, including git.biblibre.com, that have many tags, that I don't wan't to push... 11:47 paul_p git push --tags origin 11:47 paul_p fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly 11:47 paul_p git remote -v 11:47 paul_p biblibre gitolite@git.biblibre.com:koha_biblibre (fetch) 11:47 paul_p biblibre gitolite@git.biblibre.com:koha_biblibre (push) 11:47 paul_p catalyst git://git.koha-community.org/wip/koha-catalyst.git (fetch) 11:47 paul_p catalyst git://git.koha-community.org/wip/koha-catalyst.git (push) 11:47 paul_p koha-biblibre git://git.koha-community.org/wip/koha-biblibre.git (fetch) 11:47 paul_p koha-biblibre git://git.koha-community.org/wip/koha-biblibre.git (push) 11:47 paul_p libsysguy git://github.com/libsysguy/koha-hourly.git (fetch) 11:47 paul_p libsysguy git://github.com/libsysguy/koha-hourly.git (push) 11:47 paul_p origin git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git (fetch) 11:47 paul_p origin git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git (push) 11:47 paul_p ptfs git://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PTFS.git (fetch) 11:47 paul_p ptfs git://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PTFS.git (push) 11:49 rangi have you uploaded all the files, should be about 4 of them 11:49 rangi ill copy them over if so 11:50 paul_p 4 ? I've uploaded .tar.gz & .md5, so only 2 11:50 rangi hmm 11:50 rangi there should be a .sig 11:50 rangi and a MD5.asc too 11:51 rangi you did 11:51 paul_p for the MD5, I used md5sum koha-3.8.0.tar.gz > koha-3.8.0.tar.gz.MD5 11:51 rangi gpg -sb koha-$VERSION.tar.gz 11:51 rangi yep thats for it 11:51 rangi that one signs it 11:51 rangi the .sig 11:52 rangi and also 11:52 rangi gpg --clearsign koha-$VERSION.tar.gz.MD5 11:52 rangi to create the .asc 11:52 rangi so ppl can verify its all correct, and that you actually created it 11:53 paul_p rangi OK, i've the 4 files 11:53 * paul_p uploading the 2 that were missing 11:53 paul_p rangi = done, the 4 files are on /home/paulp 11:54 paul_p sh....t i've pushed all biblibre tags !!! 11:55 mbalmer huah, git repo is spamming me… ;) 11:55 paul_p 3 months ago 11:55 paul_p unilim_maj_120118 11:55 paul_p Livraison pré-production 18/01... ... 11:55 paul_p mbalmer I think it's me 11:56 mbalmer yes, looks like a lot of works os going in 11:56 rangi there now 11:56 mbalmer work is going in, even 11:56 rangi the files that is 11:57 rangi ahhh crappy i have a repo that i only used for rm, so didnt have any other local tags 11:57 magnuse yay http://download.koha-community.org/ 11:57 rangi i can clean those out for you paul 11:58 paul_p rangi++ if you can clean them ! 11:59 rangi the 3.8.0 tag is there now too at least 12:00 rangi can someone download and test the tarball please 12:00 rangi and ill start cleaing tags 12:03 paul_p rangi i'm writing a mail to koha-devel to ask someone to test installation, then will announce the release. 12:03 paul_p rangi thanks for your help 12:04 rangi one down, 50182 to go :) 12:04 paul_p rangi 50182 ? you're kidding, right ? there are 120 or something like that 12:05 paul_p (which is already a large number ;-) ) 12:05 mib_ex6ial what is difference betwen zebra daemon and cronjob for specialy indexing purpose zebra -z 12:05 paul_p for the 1st time of my life, I think I should say git-- for pushing all tags references ! 12:05 * paul_p head to lunch 12:09 magnuse just git pulled and now i get errors when i try to install nb-NO... 12:09 jcamins_away mib_ex6ial: under no circumstances should you use zebraqueue daemon. 12:09 pastebot "magnuse" at 109.189.7.19 pasted "lots of this..." (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/356 12:11 rangi no one pull 12:12 rangi or if you do, you will get a pile of tags you dont want 12:12 rangi gimme another 30 mins or so to clear them out 12:12 * kf stays away from pulling 12:12 rangi but if ppl could test the .tar.gz that would be fine 12:12 * magnuse already did 12:13 rangi magnuse: read up on prune remote :) 12:13 rangi and git gc 12:13 rangi you will want it after i have finished :) 12:14 magnuse hm, i think i pulled before the tags were pushed 12:14 magnuse git tag only lists 118 tags 12:14 mib_ex6ial so what should i do with zebraqueue daemon i thing it is runing on boot up 12:14 magnuse and they don't look like the ones from the emails 12:15 jcamins mib_ex6ial: don't run it. You need to run the Zebra daemon, but not zebraqueue daemon. 12:15 mib_ex6ial so should i stop it in configuration not to run on boot up 12:15 jcamins Yes. 12:18 kf magnuse: ouch - the paste looks bad :( same for german? 12:18 mib_ex6ial my cronjob for auto indexing is also not working zebra -z is it may be bcz of daemon 12:18 mib_ex6ial i am using live cd 12:18 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tags 12:18 rangi hows that look now? 12:19 rangi i freaking love xargs 12:19 kf :) 12:19 kf it looksok tome 12:19 kf I don't see anything that looks like biblibre 12:19 jcamins mib_ex6ial: I can't really offer any advice on the live cd, sorry. I never use it. 12:19 rangi yay 12:19 * magnuse neither 12:21 mib_ex6ial i am new to koha, installed koha with live cd and imported approx 20 k records which works fine, but opac not updating records after transaction may be due to zebra-z is not working 12:21 rangi repacking the repo now 12:22 mib_ex6ial please advice is there any other easy and friendly method to do the job on server machine i wanted to implement it in my library 12:22 alex_a kohacon 12:22 alex_a ? 12:23 alex_a wrong channel ... 12:23 jcamins mib_ex6ial: the live cd should just work. If it doesn't, I don't really know what to recommend. 12:24 mib_ex6ial ok means live cd should be suffient to do the job there may be some issue with configuration but what is the purpose of zebra daemon if we shoul not use it 12:24 oleonard Hi everyone 12:24 jcamins mib_ex6ial: it's deprecated. 12:25 rangi hi oleonard 12:25 jcamins mib_ex6ial: the new versions of the live cd do not use it. 12:25 jcamins mib_ex6ial: I'd encourage you to use the latest live cd. 12:25 mib_ex6ial which one should i use please help 12:25 jcamins mib_ex6ial: the latest one, whichever that is. 12:25 jcamins As I said, I don't use live cds. 12:26 mib_ex6ial it is 3.6.4 by mr vimal kumar 12:26 Oak when importing about 1300 patrons on om laptop (for testing), got a "Gateway Time-out" after about 10 minutes... 12:26 mib_ex6ial on sourceforge 12:26 rangi right, dropped the size or the repo down 12:26 jcamins mib_ex6ial: that seems pretty recent, then. You shouldn't need to change anything. 12:26 rangi so i think everything is cleaned up now 12:27 Oak is there some place where i am supposed to increase script running time? 12:27 mib_ex6ial but it uses daemon zebra let me test after stoping this 12:28 mib_ex6ial bcz when i am rebuilding index it daemon and zebra both shows 12:28 jcamins mib_ex6ial: you should have the Zebra daemon, not the zebraqueue daemon. 12:30 mib_ex6ial zebraqueue daemon ok i am stoping it on boot up and from where zebra-z should be executed i.e root or koha? 12:30 jcamins mib_ex6ial: whichever user it was set up by Vimal. 12:31 jcamins I have never--and will never--use the live cd, so I don't know anything about how it's configured. 12:32 mib_ex6ial he seted both the options for each cronjob like indexing, fines, overdue etc, but for indexing not activated any one 12:32 Oak *sigh* 12:33 mib_ex6ial he suggest me to use koha, so sholu i stop all others which excecute in root and try one by one 12:33 rangi Oak: you can increase the timeout in apache itself 12:33 jcamins mib_ex6ial: there's your answer, then. 12:33 rangi however, a better fix might be to chunk the file into 2 smaller bits 12:33 Oak where in apache? let me check httpd.conf again 12:33 rangi and an even better fix 12:34 mib_ex6ial ok thanks for your nice support 12:34 rangi rewrite the upload tool to use background processing, like the stage marc does :) 12:34 mib_ex6ial now i am going to try 12:34 jcamins rangi: and an even better better fix is to use chris_n's new upload code 12:34 jcamins ;) 12:35 rangi you'd still want background processing of some sort going on, (its not that actual upload timing out, its the db inserts) 12:35 rangi but yep doing all of it with ajax is the win 12:35 jcamins rangi: yeah, that's how chris_n is doing it, I think. 12:37 Oak okay added: Timeout 2000 in httpd.conf... trying again 12:39 rangi ok, time for sleep 12:39 oleonard rangi++ 12:39 Oak good night rangi :) 12:39 Oak rangi++ 12:40 magnuse rangi++ - and sleep tight! 12:41 jcamins rangi++ 12:42 kf rangi++ 12:43 magnuse well, that's weird - the .po file for nb-NO has lots of lines like "#, fuzzy" at the end, and each of them seems to result in 5 errors like this when i run "perl translate install nb-NO": 12:43 magnuse Use of uninitialized value $key in hash element at /usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 466, <IN> line 89317. 12:43 magnuse Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 472, <IN> line 89317. 12:43 magnuse Use of uninitialized value $key in hash element at /usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 472, <IN> line 89317. 12:43 magnuse Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 472, <IN> line 89317. 12:43 magnuse Use of uninitialized value in hash element at /usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 343, <IN> line 89317. 12:44 magnuse removing the lines with "#, fuzzy" removes the errors 12:44 magnuse at least it looks like errors are not affecting the end result 12:48 * oleonard hopes no one feels about the staff client home page redesign like I feel about the GMail redesign 12:48 jcamins oleonard: did gmail change? 12:49 * magnuse likes the new staff client home page 12:49 oleonard jcamins: they over hauled the interface to add horribleness 12:49 kf well... perhaps people will start using something else then :) 12:49 kf ;) 12:50 * oleonard has seen what kf uses :P 12:50 kf oleonard: hmpf 12:50 * kf does not have a choice 12:51 oleonard You're right. I do have a choice. 12:51 oleonard Now I feel like all my choices are bad ones. 12:51 * magnuse has not seen changes in gmail 13:11 chris_n rangi++ # sleep well 13:11 chris_n oleonard: gmail... aka big brother? 13:11 oleonard Yeah, yeah. 13:11 oleonard But I'm trying to wean myself :) 13:12 oleonard Wishing for tool which offers a good interface. 13:12 oleonard Tried Thunderbird again after years away and it's just the same and just as bad. 13:12 * chris_n is too 13:12 chris_n TB is a memory *hog* 13:12 * chris_n will now clear his inbox of git spam :-) 13:15 * oleonard wishes he could quit Google Reader too :( 13:18 * chris_n goes off to fix the broken link on download.k-c.org 13:21 chris_n well... add another opps to the mix 13:21 chris_n paul_p back yet? 13:22 chris_n ok, folks, I have accidentally deleted the tarbal for 3.8.0 so it will be unavailable for a bit... sorry :-P 13:23 jcamins chris_n: I think kf has a copy. 13:23 jcamins I have a copy, too, but we'd all die of old age before it finished uploading. 13:24 * chris_n looks toward kf 13:24 chris_n hoping she has a large data pipe 13:26 chris_n can you spell "monday"? 13:27 oleonard The release isn't official yet is it? 13:27 jcamins chris_n: "today" 13:28 oleonard This Monday is especially Mondayish. 13:28 chris_n jcamins: loading the quotes data into the db will need to be fixed up to be a background process as once we get >~20 quotes, the delay is noticeable on the user end 13:29 * chris_n keeps an eye out for 'rm -fr /' knowing it must be floating around in the m-ether somewhere 13:32 chris_n @later tell paul_p you should have perms on download.k-c now; please push the tarball back up as I accidentally deleted it while fixing the sym link 13:32 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded. 13:32 chris_n brb 13:38 kf todayi s not monday 13th, right? ;) 13:38 kf chris_n: can't you push it back up? 13:39 magnuse Ctrl+z ? ;-) 13:40 chris_n kf: if I had a copy I could 13:40 kf I have a copy... 13:41 chris_n jcamins: acutally the server-side script is non-blocking, so I don't think it should be a problem as the client can run async from it 13:41 chris_n kf: how to get it to me? 13:41 kf one moment :) 13:41 gmcharlt paul_p: chris_n: jcamins: rangi: any objections to doing garbage collection in the repo now, or is there more pushing to do for the next hour or so? 13:42 * jcamins has no objection. 13:42 jcamins And rangi is asleep. 13:42 chris_n gmcharlt: none from me 13:42 jcamins Oh, I owe you an SSH public key. 13:42 chris_n kf: somewhere I could wget it would be fantastic 13:43 kf chris_n: pm 13:43 magnuse kohaversion.pl and updatedatabase.pl needs to be updated? 13:43 kf oh right 13:43 kf paul_p forgot those probably? 13:44 chris_n ouch 13:44 kf so perhaps we have to do a new tarball anyway? 13:44 chris_n gmcharlt: you may want to hold on 13:44 magnuse unless, i'm missing something 13:44 gmcharlt chris_n: sure, I'm not going to do anything without positive confirmation from paul_p 13:44 kf paul_p: we need you rm 13:44 chris_n magnuse: those are easy to forget 13:45 chris_n I'll go ahead and put the original tarball back for now 13:45 nengard looking for report help (or ideas) - list of unused item barcodes entering a range of barcodes - so if you enter 5000-6000 it tells you what numbers aren't used in that range 13:46 chris_n too bad we could not just link to the git snapshot link and have it autogen the signature files real-time 13:47 gmcharlt well, there's something to be said for the personal touch (re signing the tarball) 13:47 chris_n heh... its not been a good day for the personal touch ;-) 13:47 chris_n midas touch maybe? 13:47 jcamins gmcharlt: I sent you my SSH public key. 13:48 chris_n ok, somebody want to check to be sure things look/work ok on dl.k-c.org now? 13:48 jcamins Cool, my printer's network card supports gigabit. 13:50 gmcharlt chris_n: testing downloads and checksums now 13:50 gmcharlt do you want to update the header to point change the current stable release link? 13:50 * chris_n loves hosting the 3.8.0 Pre-release Show.... :-) 13:50 Oak can we dis-allow users to change their email address or phone once it is entered? 13:50 chris_n gmcharlt: will do 13:50 gmcharlt chris_n: checksum matches 13:52 oleonard Oak: In the OPAC? 13:52 Oak yes 13:52 oleonard Oak: Users can submit suggested changes to their records but the librarian has to enter them by hand 13:52 oleonard Oak: The user has no direct control over the information submitted via the OPAC 13:52 Oak aah, let me try that 13:53 chris_n gmcharlt: header updated (I think...) 13:53 oleonard Oak: The admin gets an email with the requested changes 13:53 gmcharlt chris_n: confirmed 13:53 gmcharlt ... but the link has too many zeroes in it 13:53 chris_n so it looks like we're good with the exception of the update scripts 13:53 chris_n hmm 13:53 * oleonard hopes that Progilone's work on Bug 7067 includes improvements in this area 13:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, ASSIGNED , allow patron self registration via the opac 13:54 Oak oleonard, do we have to set up our Koha server as a mail server to enable it to send emails? 13:54 * oleonard hopes someone else can answer that question 13:54 gmcharlt Oak: it has to at least know to relay mail to a smart host 13:54 chris_n gmcharlt: fixed 13:54 chris_n we really need to standardize that 13:55 Oak hmm... okay, let me search how to enable that functionality 13:55 gmcharlt chris_n: wasn't there some discussion of stripping the extraneous zeroes from the version number in the tarball name? 13:55 chris_n @later tell paul_p things are fixed up now, but we need to fixup the update scripts for 3.8.0 and roll a new tarball 13:55 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded. 13:55 gmcharlt in any event, I do find koha-3.8.0-tar.gz preferable to koha-3.08.00-tar.gz 13:56 chris_n gmcharlt: maybe, I don't recall the outcome 13:56 chris_n but either way 13:56 wahanui well, either way is workable though imho 13:56 wizzyrea I sort of recall someone telling me the 0's were important. 13:57 gmcharlt they matter for the KohaVersion syspref and the update scripts 13:57 chris_n kf: can you confirm that updatedatabase.pl needs updating in the tarball? 13:57 gmcharlt but not so much for the name of the package file 13:57 chris_n or jcamins perhaps? 13:59 gmcharlt chris_n: confirmed - the tarball is reporting 3.07.00.049 as the version number 13:59 chris_n gmcharlt: thanks; hopefully that's the last issue :) 14:00 gmcharlt chris_n: I don't think we get to escape the need for a 3.8.1 that easily ;) 14:00 gmcharlt but yeah, I think that's the main cosmetic issue 14:01 chris_n lol 14:01 chris_n 3.8.0 == beta 14:01 wizzyrea O.o 14:01 chris_n 3.8.1 == true_stable 14:01 gmcharlt .0 == beta, always 14:01 * wizzyrea giggles 14:02 jcamins chris_n: 3.8.1 == more stable 14:02 chris_n stable = n+1 14:02 jcamins 3.8.2 == true_stable :P 14:03 gmcharlt 3.8.∞ ? 14:03 chris_n well, with a 6 month major release cycle and a 1 month maint release cycle (for the most part), we can't complain too much :-) 14:03 gmcharlt indeed not 14:04 * chris_n strains for a look at 3.10 14:04 jcamins chris_n: au contraire! I can complain a remarkable amount! 14:04 * oleonard complains that his office is cold 14:04 * chris_n feeds jcamins more fudge to make that a hard task 14:05 * wizzyrea imagines he can't complain much with a mouth full of sticky fudge 14:05 gmcharlt or at least they would sound indistinct ;) 14:05 chris_n careful... we'll take away the milk... 14:06 jcamins lol 14:07 * gmcharlt is going to branch 3.8.x now, in case updating kohaversion.pl/updatedatbase.pl becomes rangi's first act as 3.8 RMaint 14:11 kf sorry was afk 14:11 kf reading back 14:14 kf chris_n: gmcharlt confirmed? 14:14 chris_n he did, thanks 14:15 chris_n gmcharlt++ 14:18 kf gmcharlt++ 14:20 Oak sekjal was working on documentation on how to set-up email notification in Koha (http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2010-07-21) anybody know its status? 14:20 Oak kf? 14:20 wahanui kf is probably cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. 14:20 kf whanui: wizzyrea is the holds expert 14:21 kf wahanui: wizzyrea is the holds expert 14:21 wahanui ...but wizzyrea is <reply> I LIKE SCIENCE... 14:21 gmcharlt OK, 3.8.x is branched 14:21 gmcharlt and for the record, I confirm that rangi is set up to push to 3.8.x 14:21 gmcharlt and jcamins is set up to push to 3.6.x 14:21 kf gmcharlt: :) 14:21 kf gmcharlt: will this make it difficult for paul to do a new tarball? 14:21 paul_p i'm here 14:21 jcamins Cool! 14:22 jcamins gmcharlt++ 14:22 paul_p I don't understand "things are fixed up now, but we need to fixup the update scripts for 3.8.0 and roll a new tarball" 14:22 paul_p what do you mean by "update scripts for 3.8.0 ? 14:22 paul_p chris_n ? 14:22 wahanui release maintainer for 3.2, 3.4, and 3.6. or late on 3.6.5 14:22 kf paul_p: the version is wrong 14:22 kf paul_p: we need a last databaseupdate updating to 3.8 14:22 paul_p yikes !!!!! 14:23 * paul_p completely forgot that !!! 14:23 chris_n paul_p: ^^ ;-) 14:23 kf you are not the first 14:23 kf and probably not hte last .) 14:23 * chris_n is guilty as well 14:23 chris_n its easy to do 14:23 * paul_p add a 3.8.0 bumping to updatedatabase.pl immediately! 14:24 chris_n you'll have to re-roll the release 14:24 gmcharlt paul_p: note that a 3.8.x branch exists now, btw 14:24 chris_n but you should have perms on dl.k-c.-org now 14:25 kf but can paul_p still push to 3.8.x? th enew branch? 14:25 gmcharlt I've now given him permission to push to it 14:26 magnuse paul_p: don't forget kohaversion.pl either 14:27 kf oh 14:27 kf magnuse: fixing translations? 14:27 paul_p magnuse don't worry, I made 49 Database number dump for 3.8, so I won't forget ;-) 14:27 kf perhaps will have to wait... 14:28 kf paul_p: magnuse notices that the translation scripts are throwing errors -- guess we need to do more testing next time :( 14:28 paul_p kf strange, because I tested french & chinese installation, and had no problems 14:30 kf paul_p: I am not sure, did you update your po files after help files were pushed? perhaps there is some change that's causing it. I updated my files to latest master. but guess it will have to wait until 3.6.1 14:30 kf 3.81. 14:30 kf 3.8.1 14:31 pastebot "magnuse" at 109.189.7.19 pasted "summary of translation problems" (164 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/358 14:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Koha 3.8.0 bump <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=142c62081fc15bbd994e737eef55e29b61a6d730> 14:33 jcamins So I guess I need to announce the schedule for 3.6.5. 14:33 jcamins And figure out the RMaint scripts. 14:35 magnuse thanks paul_p 14:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #719 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:35 magnuse http://head.bibkat.no/ is now definitely running 3.8.0 :-) 14:42 gaetan_B bye #koha! 14:42 gmcharlt @later tell rangi gitstats set up for 3.8.x 14:42 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 14:42 oleonard Bye gaetan_B 14:43 oleonard And congratulations on your new design appearing in 3.8 gaetan_B :) 14:43 oleonard gaetan_B++ 14:43 oleonard asaurat1++ 14:44 kf gaetan_B++ asaurat++ and oleonard++ :) 14:44 asaurat1 =) 14:44 * chris_n warily does a git fetch 14:44 wizzyrea ! 14:45 kf hi wizzyrea 14:45 * wizzyrea waves 14:46 chris_n wizzyrea: I got the ajax file uploader working this weekend 14:46 wizzyrea ooooooo 14:46 chris_n lots of stuff here which could make life nice in the staff interface 14:47 * chris_n worries that git rebase is taking forever 14:50 oleonard on master chris_n? 14:50 samuel hello everybody 14:50 chris_n no, on a branch, but it finally finished up ok 14:52 chris_n oleonard: master rebased pretty snappy actually 14:54 mveron The new interface ist really nice. Looks very professional. I like it. 14:56 wizzyrea :) 14:58 magnus_afk gaetan_B++ 15:05 paul_p gmcharlt chris_n rangi = updated koha-3.8.* files, including updatedatabase.pl for 3.8.0 uploaded to /home/paulp/ (I can't upload them to /home/uploads) 15:06 gmcharlt paul_p: ok, I'll stick it into place now 15:06 paul_p gmcharlt thanks 15:09 gmcharlt paul_p: done, and verifed that downloaded version has the correct version stamp 15:15 * chris_n has to say it... 15:15 chris_n stupid emacs 15:20 * kf has to say it 15:20 kf stupid word 15:20 kf died when I saved my documentation 15:22 chris_n word-- 15:23 kf word-- 15:24 jcamins word-- 15:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #719: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/719/ 15:24 jenkins_koha paul.poulain: Koha 3.8.0 bump 15:24 clrh_ kf: you use word? no libreoffice? 15:26 kf clrh: don't make me explain :) 15:26 oleonard It's "Lets complain about proprietary software day" today 15:27 clrh ok kf ;) 15:28 jcamins oleonard: proprietary software and emacs. 15:28 kyleh question: Should new perl modules use the new Koha namespace, or should they use the old C4 namespace? 15:28 kf quite an amazing program on #koha today 15:28 kf kyleh: I think there were some conditions for new modules in Koha:: - there is a bug in bugzilla 15:28 gmcharlt kyleh: the new Koha namespace, preferably 15:29 jcamins kyleh: they should use the Koha namespace if they don't depend on anything in C4 other than C4::Context. 15:29 gmcharlt but yes, as kf says, that implies some coding requirements as well 15:29 clrh did we decide things about Koha namespace? 15:29 jcamins clrh: we did, yes. 15:29 kf I think we agreed on some things 15:29 kf searching for the bug sec 15:29 clrh jcamins: somewhere in the wiki pages ? 15:29 jcamins clrh: there's a bug. 15:29 clrh ok 15:30 clrh I wait :) 15:30 magnus_afk http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Namespace_QA_Rules 15:30 kf I think it was bug 7359 15:48 vkm hello all 15:50 vkm after transaction at staff client opac shows no items available against that book crone job is already seted so we have to rebuild the zebra index to update all records 15:55 vkm after transaction at staff client opac shows no items available against that book crone job is already seted so we have to rebuild the zebra index to update all records (3.6) 16:09 slef vkm: that's nice. Sounds like you have some problem between koha and zebra. 16:11 vkm please tell me is it bug or something which i could not able to resolve 16:17 slef vkm: it sounds like a local configuration error. 17:08 jcamins banks-- 17:09 jcamins slef++ 17:10 kf jcamins++ and slef++ 17:11 slef dinner time: DEATH TO THE BANKS! 17:13 kf bye al 17:13 kf l 17:13 mveron bye kf 17:28 jcamins So much for my desk being usable. 17:29 oleonard Did Google redesign it? 17:29 jcamins oleonard: heh, no, it was piled high with books. 17:32 * chris_n read "usable" as "unstable" 17:33 chris_n only two letters difference there, but probably a bit of practical difference 17:34 mveron Struggling with git 17:34 mveron If I change a file in a new branch the changes are reflectd in master as well. 17:34 mveron I did: git reset --hard origin/master -> HEAD is now at 142c620 Koha 3.8.0 bump 17:34 mveron Then git checkout -b bug_7563 origin/master , git branch shows * bug_7563 17:34 mveron Do not do git bz apply 7563 because there is no patch yet. 17:34 mveron Then edit e.g. koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/staff_client.pref 17:34 mveron git diff is OK, then git checkout master, says: M (...)staff_client.pref 17:34 mveron Then edit file again: changes are still here. Would expect the original file. 17:40 jcamins mveron: I think you need to just do git reset --hard to reset your current branch. 17:40 jcamins Then do git checkout origin/master 17:53 mveron jcamins: Thanks. I did (after git checkout master), if I switch back to bug_7563 the changes there are gone. Edit there file again, change back to master: And changes are still there (in master) 17:53 jcamins mveron: of course. 17:53 jcamins Until you commit something, it's not attached to a particular branch. 17:55 * cait waves 17:57 * jcamins waves back. 17:57 cait :) 18:12 jcamins wizzyrea: cait: TIRTYI: http://biscuitpusher.blogspot.com/2008/08/ginger-wasabi-chocolate-chip-cookies.html 18:12 jcamins wizzyrea: especially for you. 18:12 * wizzyrea ponders this 18:13 wizzyrea welp. There goes my evening. :) 18:14 wizzyrea no no no, do not use room temp butter for cookies! 18:14 wizzyrea use cold butter and beat the snot out of it! 18:14 wizzyrea this is how you get cookie spread! 18:15 * jcamins generally uses softened butter. 18:15 jcamins If you use cold butter, the center doesn't set fast enough. 18:15 * wizzyrea does not - straight out of the fridge and generous creaming for me 18:15 * jcamins also cooks cookies about half the recommended length of time. 18:15 wizzyrea it's warmed by the time I'm done creaming 18:15 wizzyrea wait that sounds so. wrong. 18:15 jcamins Okay, not half. 18:15 jcamins But I look my cookies to be fairly soft. 18:19 jcamins Oh boy. 18:19 jcamins "OCLC Control Number Expansion in 2013" 18:19 gmcharlt grr 18:19 wizzyrea blarg 18:19 jcamins I guess that sets a hard limit on how long we can stick with GRS-1. 18:19 cait ? 18:20 jcamins cait: GRS-1 can't handle variable-length substrings, like, at all. 18:20 cait oh? 18:20 cait so it will break matching? 18:20 cait for oclc libraries? 18:21 jcamins Basically, yeah. 18:21 cait hm 18:21 cait did we fix the tarball and release? 18:21 cait I didn't see a message on the mailing list? 18:21 jcamins Yes, and no, respectively, I think. 18:21 cait ok? 18:22 cait big questionmark? 18:22 cait did paul_p forget to announce? 18:22 cait or were there more problems? 18:23 * chris_n wonders what all the grr'ing is about 18:23 gmcharlt chris_n: the OCLC number expansion 18:24 * magnus_afk looks for a blog post about 3.8 on k-c.org 18:24 chris_n well, anything that breaks stuff deserves a good 'grrr' if not more 18:24 cait so noone knows if we released koha or not? 18:24 chris_n maybe paul_p will do it later today? 18:32 cait it's 8:30 18:34 chris_n hmm... maybe he forgot 18:34 chris_n it was a rather stressing morning 18:36 rangi Hmm I hope not 18:36 cait he is on vacation rest of week 18:37 cait so would be good to find out 18:38 rangi Yes 18:38 rangi I mean its up and linked ppl will get it so need the announcement 18:38 cait we could put the release notes on kc.org I gues 18:38 cait s 18:39 * cait is checking the logs of today 18:39 rangi Yeah might have to do that, no biblibrans around? 18:41 cait I would guess not 18:41 cait 20:40 now 18:41 rangi Darn 18:42 chris_n well, if he's on vacation, someone needs to do the post... 18:42 chris_n sounds like a job for the 3.8.x r_maint ;-) 18:42 cait seems he kinda vanished after gmcharlt said he would upload the files 18:42 * chris_n ducks 18:42 cait and I don#t see when he logged out in the logs? 18:43 chris_n * paul_p has quit (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) 18:43 chris_n just after your alter-ego left :-) 18:44 chris_n ~1700 utc 18:45 rangi I guess I can do the announcement when I get to work 18:46 cait hm 18:46 cait weird 18:47 rangi It's confirmed to work eh? 18:47 cait the first tarball was 18:47 cait the second I am not sure someone tested 18:48 chris_n I believe that gmcharlt may have confirmed the second 18:49 rangi K 18:49 mveron jcamins: Thanks for the hint regarding git. I think I got it. Reading helps, thinking helps, and having some cookies helps as well :-) 18:49 cait mveron++ :) 18:51 rangi Ok kids awake 18:51 rangi Bbiab 18:52 rangi I'll do announcement then if no one beats me to it 19:02 chris_n bug 5184 19:02 wahanui bug 5184 is probably related 19:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Upgrade jQuery to the latest version 19:02 mveron hi mbalmer 19:02 mbalmer 'vening 19:04 mbalmer in which hotel are most people staying during kohacon in edinburhg? 19:05 mbalmer or, under which bridge will be the campsite? 19:05 slef George V Bridge 19:06 slef My first choice is full :-/ so trying to book a new now 19:06 slef biab 19:06 jcamins mbalmer: I think I recall there being a conversation about this a few days ago, so you might check the logs. 19:07 mbalmer ok, fair enough, thanks! 19:33 rangi Back, from bus stop 19:33 rangi No paul_p sightings eh? 19:33 cait nope 19:34 mbalmer Compaq dc9700 PCs and Fujitsu Siemens TFT display with DVI connector (1280x1024) to give away. 19:37 rangi Had to run back inside to grab some cans for the foodbank 19:38 rangi Then sprint for the bus 19:38 rangi I'm too old for this :) 19:39 rangi mbalmer: you should talk with olugbenga 19:39 rangi He could maybe take one or 2 back to Nigeria with him 19:39 mbalmer who is that? 19:39 wahanui somebody said that was maybe broken 19:40 rangi One of the koha supporters, and is coming to kohacon 19:41 mbalmer oh, I see. 19:41 rangi If shipping wasn't so expensive, there are quite a few koha libraries in Laos and Vietnam too who could put them to good use 19:42 mbalmer I guess I will not be able to take the machines to kohacon, thogh. customs and then way to many of them (I think I have over 50) 19:42 rangi Yep but maybe one or 2 sans monitors 19:42 rangi Just a thought 19:47 mbalmer depends on the allowed cabin luggage, but indeed might be an idea. 19:48 mbalmer and as mveron is coming from the same city, he could smuggle some in as well ;) 19:48 wizzyrea logs? 19:48 wahanui somebody said logs was http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 19:50 mveron mbalmer: Glad to help 19:50 rangi Good plan, maybe mail the list saying if ppl are interested let you know 19:51 mbalmer the goal, mveron: to carry as much used (but still usable) PCs to kohacon, so that folks can continue to use them ;) 19:55 rangi Sloooooow bus 19:55 rangi I ran for this???!! 19:56 rangi I think extra shot in my flat white this morning 19:57 wizzyrea it's gonna be necessary I think 19:59 * oleonard makes rumbling noises about Bug 4048 19:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths 19:59 * rangi puts on LCD soundsystem - losing my edge 19:59 rangi Oh yeah we should fix that 20:00 oleonard So what about the idea of using git mv to move the existing files to the new location then cp'ing them back to the old location while we work through the process? 20:00 oleonard Preserves the history of the files which are where they belong. The files in the old location will go away. 20:01 rangi Works for me 20:01 rangi 6 months to get it sorted 20:01 rangi :) 20:01 wizzyrea ^^ 20:02 oleonard I like that timeframe 20:02 rangi Clock starts NOW 20:02 rangi :) 20:02 * wizzyrea panics 20:02 wizzyrea wait. 20:02 wizzyrea never mind. 20:03 rangi Ok my stop bbiab 20:03 * gmcharlt joins the panic 20:04 gmcharlt the coders are coming! the documeters are coming! the librarians are here! 20:04 cait lol 20:04 cait i am more for.. the release is here 20:04 * cait is still puzzled 20:05 wizzyrea hehe 20:06 gmcharlt w/in 3 20:07 cait hm? 20:08 kathryn morning : ) 20:09 cait morning kathryn :) 20:09 kathryn heya cait 20:09 mbalmer cait, one could say you live in a nice town. passed Konstanz a few weeks ago. 20:09 cait yes, I agree 20:10 cait :) 20:11 * chris_n loads 1500+ quotes from a csv into a dom based datatable in the blink of an eye 20:11 chris_n and paging is *very* fast and agile 20:11 jcamins Woohoo! 20:11 jcamins chris_n++ 20:12 wizzyrea <3 20:12 cait am I the only one worried about the release? :( 20:12 rangi back 20:13 rangi so im at my desk 20:13 rangi way i see it 20:14 cait got coffee? 20:14 chris_n got goat milk? 20:14 rangi we have 2 choices, pull the tarball, or announce the release, im thinking the second, so unless wants to dissuade me now, or paul_p shows up before i finish writing hte mail/blog post 20:14 rangi i will do that 20:14 wizzyrea yea, announce it 20:14 chris_n announce release 20:14 wizzyrea otherwise it's a week 20:14 chris_n go! go! go! 20:14 rangi :) 20:14 rangi ok 20:15 * oleonard waves on his way out 20:15 chris_n now lets see how long it takes to push those 1500+ quotes into the db 20:15 wizzyrea byee 20:15 cait by oleonard 20:15 chris_n bye oleonard 20:15 cait bye 20:16 rangi ok, i hear no against 20:16 * rangi starts work 20:17 chris_n 1524 inserts in just over 1m 20:17 wizzyrea noice! 20:18 rangi yay 20:18 rangi so yeah, fixing borrower import will win you a gold star! :) 20:19 chris_n and you can browse off and do other foo while your quotes are saved :) 20:21 jcamins Nice! 20:21 jcamins Double gold star if you make the record import to use that, too. 20:22 chris_n I wish there was a way to feed dbi an entire array of data, but I'm not sure it would be any faster 20:22 chris_n I think it boils down to how fast the db engine can do inserts 20:23 chris_n it will be interesting to see how well the browser stands up with 1500 marc records in memory 20:23 chris_n quite a bit more data there 20:23 * chris_n heads for the stall 20:35 jcamins Aww, with chris_n gone I can't ask him how exactly he uses his release scripts. 20:35 cait I guess you can ask him tomorrow :) 20:37 jcamins Yeah, but I can't work on it tomorrow. 20:47 rangi ok, release announcements out, thanks to wizzyrea for fixing my formatting 20:48 cait rangi++ and wizzyrea++ 20:48 cait for saving the time based release :) 20:48 cait 22:48 here... think that counts 20:48 * wizzyrea breathes a sigh of relief. 20:49 wizzyrea i mean, we've got a good 8 hours left here. :) 20:49 wizzyrea but still ^.^ 20:54 rangi ok, email out too 20:56 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2012/04/24/statistics-for-koha-3-8-0/ 20:59 * wizzyrea waves to hdl 21:00 rangi hi hdl 21:01 nengard rangi can you remove the <pre> from this? http://koha-community.org/koha-3-8-0-released/ I can't read it all 21:01 rangi shift-refresh 21:01 rangi get the new css file, then it will wrap for you 21:01 wizzyrea also I'll clear the cache 21:01 rangi if i remove the pre, it will be a hell of a lot worse 21:01 wizzyrea ^^^ 21:01 wizzyrea it's terribad. 21:02 nengard thanks! 21:02 nengard works a-ok 21:08 hdl hi 21:08 rangi wb hdl 21:14 slef Quote of the day: "oh *there's* my gin" 21:15 mveron good night #koha 21:18 cait good night #koha 21:18 cait back to work on next release tomorrow 21:29 ibeardslee rangi: yay .. you got the one without the spelling mistake ;) 21:29 rangi :) 21:33 ibeardslee rangi: those Academy student patches, were any written AFTER the academy? 21:34 rangi hmm dont think so 21:34 rangi maybe one from connor lemme check 21:34 magnus_afk g'night #koha! 21:36 rangi nope, aleksa otoh who was intern over summer, did though 21:37 ibeardslee ok. 21:39 rangi and a former academy student :) 21:42 rangi bug 7999 21:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7999 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , send test notice 21:42 rangi quick submit a bug, be 8000 21:42 jcamins rangi: but if I submit a bug, people expect me to fix it. 21:42 rangi true 21:43 rangi i expect you fix the ones i submit too 21:43 rangi :) 21:43 wizzyrea oh, i like 7999 21:43 rangi yeah its a good one 21:44 jcamins Yeah, that'd be very useful. 21:44 wizzyrea very extremely useful. 21:44 wizzyrea or a "test mode" for notices even. 21:44 jcamins That would also be excellent. 21:45 jcamins One that sends notices only to people you mark or something? 21:45 rangi a test mode for all email 21:45 jcamins An excellent idea! 21:45 jcamins You should submit that as bug 8000. 21:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8000 was not found. 21:45 rangi so no matter what the persons email address is, it gets sent to the library one 21:45 jcamins Then write the patch for it. 21:45 wizzyrea ^^^ 21:45 wizzyrea that 21:45 rangi so you can test overdues and everything 21:46 wizzyrea "no matter what the person's email addy is, it gets sent to the library" 21:46 wizzyrea Mail bomb, hooooooo 21:46 wizzyrea but useful. 21:46 rangi yep, pre go live 21:46 rangi to actually test 21:47 wizzyrea zounds that'd be handy 21:47 rangi *nod* 21:47 wizzyrea so who wants to do bug 8000 :P 21:48 rangi you 21:48 rangi :) 21:48 wizzyrea kek 21:48 rangi if i do it it will be 21:48 rangi Koha should make coffee 21:50 wizzyrea there we have it 21:50 wizzyrea bug 8000 21:50 wizzyrea but huginn doesn't know about it yet. 21:51 wizzyrea but 8000? 21:51 wizzyrea bug 8000 21:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Test mode for notices 21:51 rangi yay 23:46 eythian hi