Time  Nick              Message
23:58 Space_Librarian   eythian: I agree, they should all come along
23:57 Irma              G'day #Koha
23:57 eythian           Judit: new Koha User's Group here. You coming?
23:57 Judit             morning
23:44 Space_Librarian   I love that carousel plugin...
23:43 mtj               and yeah, i just spotted that email on the list too :p
23:42 mtj               me would love to commit that, for koha-3.10
23:41 Space_Librarian   And I see we've got our second Koha User's Group day in Wellington on the 18th May. Big ups to the Treasury guys for that.
23:40 Space_Librarian   biblibre++
23:40 Space_Librarian   that is a stunning opac!
23:39 lurker            mtj:  yes on your second url
23:39 mtj               biblibre++
23:39 mtj               lurker, no -  specifically the 'carousel' plugin
23:39 mtj               http://www.professorcloud.com/mainsite/carousel.htm
23:38 mtj               specifically the 'carousel' plugin
23:38 lurker            mtj: you mean, able to view the site?
23:37 mtj               http://koha.mediathequeouestprovence.fr/
23:37 mtj               haay, has everyone seen this? -> http://koha.mediathequeouestprovence.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
22:58 Space_Librarian   sw33t
22:35 jcamins_away      In theory, April 23.
22:34 Space_Librarian   quick question: when is the next version of Koha released?
22:11 mib_41iymn        bye yall
22:10 jcamins_away      Shari is very dubious about my proposed chocolate avocado muffins.
22:10 mib_41iymn        i know
22:10 mtj               wicked means 'very' in that sentence
22:06 mib_41iymn        wondered
22:06 mib_41iymn        just that the word wicked is my native original :)
22:06 mtj               wizzyrea: yep, no hurry girl
22:05 Space_Librarian   :) wizzyrea is a secret agent
22:04 mib_41iymn        lol
22:03 mtj               wizzyrea's location is always a secret
22:03 wahanui           somebody said irc was http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
22:03 mtj               irc?
22:02 mtj               irc is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
22:02 mib_41iymn        wizzyrea: where you from(WICKED)?
22:02 wahanui           mtj: I forgot irc
22:02 mtj               wahanui forget irc
22:02 wizzyrea          but I haven't forgotten you . :)
22:02 wizzyrea          mtj, i haven't gotten to the things you emailed about yet - today was WICKED busy
22:01 mib_41iymn        lol
22:01 mib_41iymn        hmmm not looking too good
22:01 wahanui           irc is at http://koha-community.org/support/
22:01 mtj               irc?
21:57 wizzyrea          might be worth a try
21:57 wizzyrea          you can search them at irc.koha-community.org
21:57 mib_41iymn        i see online where someone was requesting a online tutorial from chris via irc but i dont find any links to the related irc logs if indeed it took place
21:56 Space_Librarian   :)
21:56 Space_Librarian   And it really is poifect
21:56 wizzyrea          and you put that CSS in your opacusercss
21:56 Space_Librarian   wizzyrea: That's awesome. Do I put that in the opacuserjs or the css?
21:56 wizzyrea          Space_Librarian: that link *was* however, for you
21:56 mib_41iymn        hmm
21:56 wizzyrea          :) nope - also I have no clue as to the pros/cons of nginx
21:55 mib_41iymn        wizzyrea: i guess that link wasnt meant for me lol
21:54 mib_41iymn        i'm about to install a fresh server using the latest koha
21:54 wizzyrea          http://screencast.com/t/TuhGSM4TnQ7j
21:54 mib_41iymn        i understand that ngingx is good for running koha ...but is there any particular concerns versus running on apache?
21:54 * wizzyrea        twiddles her thumbs while this loads aha
21:53 wizzyrea          that would give you
21:53 pastebot          "wizzyrea" at pasted "Something like this" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/348
21:53 Space_Librarian   You're awesome.
21:52 wizzyrea          one sec and I'll get u the css
21:52 wizzyrea          sure ez
21:52 Space_Librarian   riddle me this: http://screencast.com/t/4b71eufqj3 - would that be difficult to do? Made it one or two points bigger, and in bold?
21:44 Space_Librarian   :)
21:43 wizzyrea          ooh
21:43 * Space_Librarian hands over a 'smore
21:43 wizzyrea          not a lot
21:43 Space_Librarian   'sup?
21:38 wizzyrea          heya :)
21:31 Space_Librarian   o/
21:15 * magnus_afk      bids #koha a fond farewell
21:14 Morthland         I got it taken care of
21:13 * gmcharlt        will get used to irssi yet if it kills him!
21:12 gmcharlt          *sigh*
21:12 gmcharlt          just leave a symlink so that the prev version will still work
21:11 gmcharlt          magnus_afk++
21:10 magnus_afk        huh? you gotta speak louder, man!
21:09 gmcharlt          magnus_afk: I wonder how this would compare with a global map for earplug sales?
21:09 gmcharlt          Morthland: all set?
21:06 wizzyrea          ELL OH ELL
21:06 magnus_afk        heh: http://i.imgur.com/zRDq4.png
20:57 Morthland         Got into it
20:54 mveron            Thanks rangi and cait for the great support - and Good Night #koha
20:51 Morthland         is no longer working
20:50 Morthland         My root password
20:48 cait              mveron++
20:48 rangi             mveron++
20:48 gmcharlt          Morthland: try redoing the steps in the install instructions to create the database user
20:47 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories
20:47 mveron            rangi: I refactured Bug 7621 using framework/biblioitems as suggested.
20:46 Morthland         it says denied
20:45 gmcharlt          mysql -u koha -pYOURPASSWORD -D koha
20:45 gmcharlt          make that...
20:45 gmcharlt          mysql -u koha -pYOURPASSWORD D koha
20:44 gmcharlt          e.g.,
20:44 gmcharlt          let's try connecting to the database directly
20:44 Morthland         it looks correct
20:44 Morthland         I see
20:43 gmcharlt          what does /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml look like?
20:43 gmcharlt          ah, so you're looking at the template
20:43 Morthland         do I need to go to the root instead?
20:43 Morthland         right now I am in /home/morthland/koha-latest/koha-3.06.04/etc
20:42 gmcharlt          weird, so it's copied over the template for koha-conf.xml, but not the version filled out with the parameters you would have chosen when you ran Makefile.PL
20:41 Morthland         http://pastebin.com/gwBeBd69
20:40 Morthland         Let me show you what I see
20:40 gmcharlt          cool
20:40 Morthland         I think I've figured it out
20:40 gmcharlt          look near the bottom of file, for user and password
20:40 Morthland         Wait,
20:39 Morthland         where do I see the credentials?
20:38 gmcharlt          looks like you did so using "standard" mode, so check in /etc/koha
20:37 Morthland         Git
20:37 gmcharlt          from package , tarball, or Git clone?
20:37 gmcharlt          Morthland: it can vary slightly - how did you install Koha?
20:37 wahanui           somebody said koha-conf.xml was a config file, not a port
20:37 Morthland         where is koha-conf.xml?
20:36 gmcharlt          - the database credentials in koha-conf.xml don't match what you set when you created the database and database user
20:36 gmcharlt          - grant priveleges has been run but not flush privileges
20:36 gmcharlt          - it has been created but the grant privleges has been run yet
20:36 gmcharlt          - the koha database hasn't been created yet
20:35 gmcharlt          Morthland: several possibilities
20:33 Morthland         http://pastebin.com/UFZPBJF6
20:32 Morthland         On a fresh install, I run into this error
20:32 Morthland         Howdy
20:32 Brooke            o/
20:22 libsysguy         kyle and ian finished it :p
20:22 libsysguy         i started that one
20:22 libsysguy         well i take it back
20:22 libsysguy         but apparently its not working as I thought it would
20:21 libsysguy         yeah i did that one
20:21 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7852 major, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Hourly loan fines are not working
20:21 cait              bug 7852
20:21 cait              libsysguy: there is a bug and patch i think?
20:14 libsysguy         and I wanted to make sure i wasn't crazy
20:14 libsysguy         man, hourly fines aren't working for me
20:14 rangi             not in production anywhere for me
20:14 libsysguy         aka master?
20:14 libsysguy         i don't suppose anyone is running hourly yet are they?
20:06 oleonard          Hi shahas
20:06 shahas            hii
19:46 slef              cheerio
19:46 slef              ciao
19:46 slef              thanks both
19:46 slef              but good to know for next time
19:46 slef              bah out of time :(
19:45 sekjal            slef:  no, I don't think it does, since it's not translated
19:45 jcamins           I wouldn't think so, no.
19:45 slef              updating POD doesn't count as a string change, does it?
19:44 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , C4::Acquisition::SearchOrder POD inconsistent with function
19:44 slef              bug 5395
19:36 cait              thx :)
19:34 sekjal            cait: done
19:32 cait              it's only the sample news translated to german
19:32 cait              sekjal: 7922? I think adding the sql would work - into your database
19:32 cait              morning :)
19:31 rangi             Morning
19:31 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7933 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Fields in marc display not the same
19:31 sekjal            cait:  bug 7933?
19:28 drojf             cait: would i have to install it even if its just this?
19:27 sekjal            cait: ok
19:27 wizzyrea          limesurvey_community-- koha_community++ it's impossible to get an answer to a question from their IRC channel.
19:24 cait              in the sample news
19:24 cait              sekjal: perhaps you could consider taking a look at 7933? it only changes a typo in fehlerkorrektur
19:19 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7922 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Fixing typos and improving translations in German sample data
19:19 cait              bug 7922
19:19 cait              or... oh yesbug 7922 - I know you all always wanted to improve your german :)
19:19 libsysguy         cait++
19:18 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7929 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Duplicate id "availability" on XSLT result page
19:18 cait              bug 7929
19:18 * jcamins         touches his nose to indicate that he's working on other things.
19:18 cait              or 7929 - xhmtl validity
19:18 jcamins           Okay, two.
19:18 cait              who wants to sign off? :)
19:18 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3413 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , repeatable tickbox not sticking 1st time round
19:18 cait              bug 3413 is a nice evil  bug fixed by me
19:18 jcamins           Woohoo! Only one problem!
19:17 libsysguy         and I just gave up and used js
19:17 libsysguy         i think there was some fight I was having with IE trying to do that
19:17 jcamins           I need to test that on my theme.
19:16 jcamins           libsysguy: at least use CSS to shift the search results over too?
19:16 libsysguy         but without changing the prog theme or copyign it there was really no way go about it
19:16 libsysguy         i will admit it doesn't degrade nicely
19:15 jcamins           No, the layout's pretty nice.
19:15 libsysguy         :p
19:15 libsysguy         so jcamins :x
19:15 * libsysguy       doesn't want the librarians to know either
19:15 libsysguy         I don't really want to look
19:15 jcamins           I wanted to know what would happen.
19:15 libsysguy         or do you mean my layout :p
19:15 jcamins           Yup.
19:15 libsysguy         did you turn off js jcamins?
19:14 jcamins           That's even worse than with broken Javascript.
19:14 jcamins           Wow.
19:14 jcamins           Yeah, that's pretty bad.
19:14 libsysguy         :p
19:14 chris_n           it must be monday
19:14 libsysguy         cait then they are going to have a bad time
19:14 chris_n           avocado chocolate muffins... ?
19:13 cait              but what happens if someone has javascript deactivated? :)
19:13 jcamins           Yes it is, excellent. :)
19:13 libsysguy         thanks for the patch oleonard
19:13 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7554 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, Newlines break search paging
19:13 cait              better :)
19:13 jcamins           Bug 7554
19:13 libsysguy         thats what it is supposed to look like
19:13 libsysguy         cait: see http://catalog.uttyler.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=lasers
19:12 libsysguy         im amazed that it has been like this for 4 hours and I haven't gotten one call
19:12 libsysguy         ill apply it then deal with the rebase when it gets into master
19:12 oleonard          libsysguy: it's a simple fix
19:11 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7962 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Cart missing from result lists
19:11 oleonard          libsysguy: Bug 7962
19:11 jcamins           Speaking of which, did my fix for the browser get in?
19:11 libsysguy         so one js error and the whole page kind of implodes
19:11 libsysguy         i completely changed the page with js
19:10 libsysguy         cait that is what it looks like for me too
19:09 cait              totally understandable
19:08 jcamins           I was focusing on avocado chocolate muffins.
19:08 * cait            had a long day
19:08 jcamins           I didn't actually follow the link until well after I'd stopped thinking about it.
19:07 jcamins           oleonard: yes, I suppose it is.
19:07 cait              I thought he only had the bug for the cart display
19:07 drojf             wasn't that the point?
19:07 * cait            sends cookies to libsysguy's catalog
19:07 drojf             lol
19:07 cait              [off] http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/Auswahl_015.png
19:07 oleonard          Isn't that why he said "my poor catalog?"
19:06 jcamins           Very broken.
19:06 jcamins           Wow. Broken for me, too.
19:06 jcamins           oleonard: No, but it does belong on my table for breakfast.
19:06 cait              the facets and result list are overlapping, while there is lots of white space on the right side
19:06 cait              libsysguy: you probably don't want to know htat... but your layout iw broken for me
19:06 oleonard          That doesn't belong in a search result for lasers
19:06 jcamins           Wow.
19:05 jcamins           Wait... chocolate avocado muffins?
19:04 libsysguy         just making sure i didn't mess it up :p
19:03 libsysguy         thats why im not b*thc*ng
19:03 libsysguy         i know
19:03 jcamins           libsysguy: you're running Master in production! What do you expect? :P
19:02 libsysguy         lol
19:02 libsysguy         my poor catalog https://catalog.uttyler.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=lasers
19:02 sekjal            any other broken things in current master that have patches pending?
19:02 sekjal            gladly, oleonard
19:02 * libsysguy       must've missed it
19:02 oleonard          (thanks sekjal)
19:01 oleonard          A patch for that just passed qa
19:01 jcamins           Wasn't there a bug about that over the weekend?
19:01 libsysguy1        yes
19:01 oleonard          On the results page libsysguy1?
19:01 libsysguy1        does anybody else see it?
19:01 libsysguy1        so i upgraded to master this morning and just noticed there was an error in basket.js
18:54 jcamins           ;)
18:54 jcamins           gmcharlt: sorry, I know that was a bit of a basic question, but having looked at C4::Search, I now appreciate the awesome power of quote 123.
18:51 gmcharlt          it produces a parse tree
18:50 jcamins           Hm. And I presume the parser uses some sort of data structure that makes queries non-ambiguous?
18:49 gmcharlt          jcamins: it would require a bit of surgery, but the query parser itself could be ripped out and made standalone
18:46 * jcamins         still maintains that the appropriate course of action for search engine independence is to have some sort of query parser.
18:45 jcamins           Or is it integrally tied to Evergreen?
18:45 jcamins           gmcharlt: ah. Has said QueryParser been released onto CPAN?
18:44 * gmcharlt        personally uses Human Language Processing v1.0 ;)
18:43 gmcharlt          well, _a_ QueryParser module, but one that was written bespoke, not taken from CPAN
18:43 jcamins           Where you=Evergreen
18:42 jcamins           gmcharlt: but you use QueryParser?
18:42 gmcharlt          it's search is based on Postgres' tsearch2 module
18:42 jcamins           gmcharlt: hooray! You're here!
18:42 gmcharlt          jcamins: Evergreen doesn't use Solr at all
18:42 jcamins           Does Evergreen exclusively use solr as its search engine?
18:40 cait              sekjal++
18:40 cait              sekjal: thx for qa
18:40 sekjal            we share SIP code
18:40 cait              that's what I think too
18:39 sekjal            jcamins:  perl, I believe
18:39 cait              lol
18:39 jcamins           lol
18:39 oleonard          Uruk-hai
18:39 jcamins           What language is Evergreen written in?
18:39 jcamins           That'd be very nice.
18:37 sekjal            jcamins:  I'm thinking of throwing some time at the browser sometime soonish.  I'd work on making it input list independent, so the code could be recycled in all kinds of ways
18:35 chris_n           I have to port it forward for our upgrade to 3.8, so I thought I'd finish it up and submit it for 3.10 at the same time
18:35 chris_n           which quote changes daily
18:34 chris_n           when enabled, it shows a random quote on the opac home page
18:34 chris_n           for a feature I half added locally several years ago called quote-of-the-day
18:34 chris_n           editing and deleting works; I'm now working up adding
18:34 wahanui           or automatically added
18:34 oleonard          What is it?
18:33 chris_n           yup
18:32 oleonard          Quotes editor?
18:32 chris_n           lol
18:32 jcamins           chris_n: we hate you doing that, too... you could've spent that hour redoing the cataloging interface. :P
18:30 chris_n           whew... I hate wasting an hour on syntax :P
18:29 chris_n           $('#quotes_editor tbody tr:last td').foo
18:29 chris_n           essentially thusly
18:29 jcamins           chris_n: did you find the easy way?
18:28 chris_n           I knew I was going at it the hard way
18:28 jcamins           If I could easily switch it to be a title browser, that'd be cool, too.
18:28 jcamins           I think this would be nice.
18:25 jcamins           I would like to have a configurable browser, so that I could have a "results browser," and also a tab for a "call number browser."
18:15 chris_n           )
18:15 chris_n           interesting.. I would have expected this to have matched all td children who's id is not no_edit: row.children('td[id!="no_edit"]'
18:11 chris_n           your latter syntax is what I suspect
18:10 * chris_n         takes a deep breath and heads back to the deep end :-)
18:10 jcamins           Maybe.
18:10 jcamins           row.children('td')
18:09 jcamins           .children()
18:09 jcamins           chris_n: that's what I think you use row.search or row.child for.
18:08 chris_n           where row is a ref var
18:08 chris_n           or some such
18:08 chris_n           row td
18:08 chris_n           only
18:08 chris_n           $(#div tbody td)
18:07 chris_n           like
18:07 chris_n           referencing elements of row
18:07 chris_n           what about
18:07 chris_n           I just discovered that
18:07 jcamins           Something like that.
18:07 chris_n           yes
18:07 jcamins           row.child?
18:07 jcamins           row.search?
18:07 jcamins           chris_n: row.find(something)?
18:05 oleonard          Seems like it should be possible
18:04 * chris_n         is probably trying to do the impossible
18:04 oleonard          chris_n: I don't know the answer to that
18:04 cait              hi chris_n
18:04 chris_n           hi cait
18:03 chris_n           only that example does not work
18:03 chris_n           ?
18:03 chris_n           oleonard: if I do "var row = tbody.insertRow(lastRow);" how do I reference row and its elements? ie. $(row td).foo
18:02 cait              back
17:49 oleonard          man, my history of Drupal tweets is one long bitch session
17:41 * magnus_afk      takes the dogs for a walk
17:28 kf                lol
17:22 magnus_afk        normarc, how do I hate thee? let me count the ways...
17:11 magnus_afk        gah
17:09 oleonard          My disincentive is the long list of things that don't get upgraded properly
17:09 oleonard          My incentive is getting to switch to Omega+Delta+Context to get a responsive theme
17:08 magnus_afk        ouch, i try not to think about that
17:07 oleonard          My problem at the moment is planning a D6->D7 upgrade
17:07 oleonard          Does *anyone* want to upgrade Drupal, ever? :P
17:07 magnus_afk        oleonard: wanna upgrade an installation for me? ;-)
17:06 * oleonard        is in Drupal mode today, so less attentive
17:06 oleonard          Mondays are usually less random I think
17:06 jcamins           oleonard: for that matter, how is this different from any conversation in which I am involved?
17:06 jcamins           oleonard: how is this different from any other Monday?
17:05 oleonard          Today's conversations are really random and confusing.
17:05 jcamins           (that seems to work)
17:02 jcamins           Blacklight has built-in browsing.
16:53 * jcamins         runs around waving his arms in the air because surely the end of the world is nigh!
16:52 jcamins           Also, chocolate chips. And walnuts. And yeast.
16:52 jcamins           Though the situation wrt flour is pretty dire, too.
16:52 jcamins           Sugar, rather.
16:52 jcamins           Maybe I should stop by Costco on the way home and buy some flour.
16:51 gaetan_B          bye!
16:49 jcamins           Chapati_flour++
16:49 jcamins           :)
16:49 kf                in brownies? very sneaky.
16:48 jcamins           [off] Aren't I sneaky about getting whole grains into my family's diet? ;)
16:48 jcamins           I'm pretty sure it's not that last, though, because I think I did that last time, too.
16:48 wizzyrea          hm yea lots going on there.
16:47 jcamins           Or the fact that I used 100% whole wheat flour.
16:47 jcamins           The dryness may also have had something to do with the oven. I will determine this when I have sugar again.
16:46 kf                :)
16:45 magnus_afk        o/* HIGHFIVE *\o
16:45 kf                toolate now?
16:45 jcamins           :)
16:45 * kf              neither
16:45 jcamins           LOL
16:45 magnus_afk        o/* HIGHFIVE *\o
16:45 * magnus_afk      neither
16:45 jcamins           Neither a daughter nor offspring of a chemist. :P
16:45 * jcamins         is not.
16:44 jcamins           lol
16:43 talljoy           LOL
16:43 wizzyrea          o/* HIGHFIVE *\o
16:43 * talljoy         is too
16:43 talljoy           right and the chemical structure is prolly different.
16:43 * wizzyrea        is the daughter of a chemist
16:43 wizzyrea          or wouldn't be able to draw much more.
16:43 wizzyrea          i would guess that the syrup, being liquid, wouldn't have much moisture to draw to it.
16:42 talljoy           chocolate and chiles = heaven
16:42 talljoy           wizzyrea: i had the same thought. about sugar.  It is known to draw moisture to it. so i suppose it would do the same in brownies.
16:42 wizzyrea          it's not spicy :)
16:42 jcamins           brownies + chiles = Shari never forgiving me :P
16:42 wizzyrea          brownies + chiles = omgzors.
16:42 talljoy           nom nom
16:41 talljoy           ooh...chiles.
16:41 talljoy           prunes hide well in chocolate.
16:41 wizzyrea          or chiles.
16:41 talljoy           i guess you could compensate with some fruit puree like, prune or applesauce.
16:41 * wizzyrea        wonders about the hydroscopic variance of agave syrup vs cane sugar
16:41 jcamins           Yeah.
16:41 talljoy           something about the chemistry, I reckon.
16:41 wizzyrea          hm
16:40 jcamins           talljoy: yeah, I was shocked.
16:40 talljoy           jcamins- really?  i wouldn't have thought so.
16:31 wizzyrea          nope. I think knowing *how* it disappeared is going to be good enough.
16:30 jcamins           wizzyrea: is it important enough to go back to an old backup?
16:30 jcamins           I learned that substituting agave syrup for granulated sugar makes the brownies *drier*.
16:29 wizzyrea          so I think what happened was that an old suggestion was rejected, then 2 days later was purged. thusly, we can't find it and there's no record of what happened.
16:29 jcamins           Speaking of cookies, did I tell everyone my experience baking brownies the other day?
16:29 wizzyrea          hehe, I love coincidences of timing.
16:29 * kf              thinks wizzyrea needs cookies
16:28 wizzyrea          oh my
16:19 talljoy           lol
16:18 oleonard          wizzyrea is a mentalist
16:17 * talljoy         is confused....thought wizzyrea was a mindreader...
16:16 wizzyrea          more sleuthing.
16:16 wizzyrea          i'm honestly not sure what the problem is i'm trying to solve here.
16:16 wizzyrea          the answer to the first question is that I have a situation where I can't tell when a suggestion was processed by a library, no one there has any recollection of rejecting the suggestion, but it apparently got purged by the cronjob on the same day it was rejected.
16:14 talljoy           wasn't one rejection enough for the poor things?
16:14 talljoy           out of curiosity, why do you want to keep rejected suggestions?
16:14 * oleonard        honors wizzyrea as the Oscar Schindler of rejected suggestions
16:13 * wizzyrea        is trying to *save* them! We've lost too many already!
16:13 jcamins           wizzyrea: yeah, sure, that's what they all say.
16:13 talljoy           NO soup for you.
16:12 wizzyrea          hey, actually I'm trying to *prevent* the genocide of poor innocent rejected suggestions.
16:12 * oleonard        condemns wizzyrea's Stalin-like rule of innocent rejected suggestions
16:09 wizzyrea          nm, purge suggestions, I found it :)
16:02 wizzyrea          is there a new-ish cron to delete rejected suggestions?
15:59 wizzyrea          bother.
15:59 jcamins           wizzyrea: I don't think so.
15:59 wizzyrea          do we log things like "purchase suggestion deletion" in the actionlogs?
15:53 talljoy           nom nom
15:53 sekjal            lunch time!
15:30 sekjal            jcamins:  while DOM indexing does seem to be pretty low-impact on the existing codebase, it's not my current priority.  I'm aiming for getting as many bugs and regressions resolved as possible before 3.8
15:26 wahanui           hmmm... :) is ok
15:26 slef              :)?
15:26 wahanui           :)
15:26 slef              wahanui: oh well never mind. Have a botsnack.
15:26 wahanui           bugger all, i dunno, slef
15:26 slef              wahanui: what happened to you, falling offline?
15:20 jcamins           I guess it depends how much control there is over mouseover delays.
15:20 jcamins           Maybe a subtle "Preview" link at the end of the results.
15:19 magnuse           yay!
15:19 jcamins           I want something tasteful.
15:19 jcamins           Yeah, that's what I don't want.
15:19 magnuse           not flash, i think, but a ton of js
15:18 jcamins           Or something painful.
15:18 jcamins           magnuse: not to mention, 100% flash?
15:18 magnuse           ^ no links to detail views
15:17 magnuse           https://ask.bibsys.no/ask2/html/
15:17 magnuse           yeah, that is super important
15:17 jcamins           What I want is a way to offer a preview without losing the link to the details page.
15:16 jcamins           There aren't many links on the results page...
15:16 jcamins           Hehe.
15:15 wizzyrea          perhaps what you are imagining is perfect and would be happy and stuff.
15:15 wizzyrea          but that might be just me
15:15 jcamins           Hm.
15:15 wizzyrea          too many links on a result page to have a hover preview, imo.
15:14 wizzyrea          lol
15:14 wizzyrea          ew no
15:14 * jcamins         is imagining a mouseover preview.
15:13 jcamins           So I guess a rendered XSLT detail view is probably about 1.5kb.
15:07 jcamins           kf: check kohastructure, but I'm pretty sure there's an ON DELETE CASCADE.
15:07 magnuse           kf: something?
15:07 jcamins           (add an XSLT thingy)
15:07 jcamins           It seems to me we could AJAX in a description, at least, pretty easily.
15:05 kf                hm when I delete something from borrowers... will the patron attributes and messaging prefs go with it?
15:05 magnuse           ooh http://blogs.perl.org/users/claes_jakobsson/2012/04/nordic-perl-workshop-2012---june-4-5-in-stockholm-sweden.html
15:04 jcamins           However, that was a pretty major objection.
15:04 jcamins           wizzyrea: me too. The only thing I objected to was the "I want this" tab.
15:03 wizzyrea          i'm still on about that opac. I really like it.
15:03 magnuse           s/ut/it/
15:03 magnuse           kf: sounds like ut
15:02 wizzyrea          hehe yes
15:02 kf                wizzyrea: I suspect wwf is on the dark side..
15:02 wizzyrea          chris_n++
15:02 jcamins           chris_n: yes, that's what I want.
15:02 wizzyrea          oh boy oh boy.
15:02 chris_n           talk about a marc editor improvement
15:02 wizzyrea          ooo yea, wth. is Jedi a proper noun? and if so, why is Sith not?
15:01 * chris_n         will submit his qod feature soon which will add jeditable and illustrate its use
15:01 kf                (scrabble)
15:01 kf                I was highly disappointed wwf allowed for sith but not for jedi
15:01 kf                :)
15:01 wizzyrea          ROFL
15:01 magnuse           may the source be with you!
15:00 wizzyrea          use the force, librarians!
15:00 wizzyrea          magnuse: I do too!
15:00 * wizzyrea        waves at oleonard
15:00 * magnuse         read it as jedi-table, of course...
15:00 chris_n           magnuse: it is cool... very cool
15:00 jcamins           sekjal: DOM indexing is ready for QA.
15:00 magnuse           jeditable looks cool
15:00 oleonard          Interesting analog to the Cart, "My workspace"
14:59 wizzyrea          that would be so. awesome.
14:59 chris_n           wizzyrea: we are closer to your editable items table wish
14:59 kf                marcelr++ sekjal++
14:59 kf                qa team at work :)
14:58 chris_n           ok, back to work
14:58 chris_n           lol
14:58 chris_n           Ford followed up with "Our Long national nightmare is over."
14:58 asaurat1          yeaah cookie
14:57 chris_n           hehe
14:57 chris_n           Nixon
14:57 * wizzyrea        giggles
14:57 * mle_            nominates chris_n for kohacon12 trivia nite
14:57 wizzyrea          nixon or dubya
14:57 asaurat1          Nixon ? :D
14:57 * chris_n         finds working one the qod editor fun :-)
14:56 chris_n           "When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal." <--- which us president said this?
14:56 wahanui           thanks chris_n :)
14:56 chris_n           wahanui: botsnack cookie
14:56 wizzyrea          i agree
14:55 wizzyrea          the covers view could be better
14:55 * chris_n         hands wahanui a cookie
14:55 wahanui           jcamins: that doesn't look right
14:55 jcamins           change to x and search for y
14:55 wizzyrea          poor guy.
14:55 wizzyrea          lol.
14:55 jcamins           search for X
14:55 jcamins           Apparently wahanui only dies with "search for X"
14:55 kf                I think the I want this needs work
14:55 chris_n           jeditable is working in conjunction w/datatables in koha now
14:54 wizzyrea          science worked well
14:54 jcamins           search something
14:54 jcamins           search for
14:54 * kf              searched for bodensee
14:54 kf                jcamins: oh, not in my search :)
14:54 jcamins           search
14:54 wizzyrea          right
14:54 jcamins           search for something
14:54 chris_n           cool
14:54 jcamins           kf: the covers are in the results directly.
14:54 wizzyrea          search for science
14:54 wizzyrea          mine has covers
14:54 kf                we do a lot on details
14:54 kf                and no covers
14:54 wizzyrea          right, but you could do another tab for item info
14:54 kf                it has the shelfmarks
14:54 jcamins           Except for item information.
14:54 kf                hm not all
14:53 wizzyrea          links, a place for twitter
14:53 wizzyrea          in fact, it's got all of the same elements on that compact view that we've got on our detail
14:53 jcamins           Agreed.
14:52 wizzyrea          better even than what we do now.
14:52 wizzyrea          it would be a LOT better.
14:52 wizzyrea          if you put the proper default view on the click title
14:52 wizzyrea          well yes, though I think
14:52 jcamins           However, it's a little bit difficult to figure out at first glance.
14:52 wizzyrea          ooo
14:52 chris_n           just ftr
14:51 * chris_n         notes that there is a quote_identifier method in dbi which allows for properly quoting identifiers
14:51 wizzyrea          besides that.
14:51 jcamins           Me too.
14:51 wizzyrea          HOWEVER. I do like what they did there.
14:51 wizzyrea          you were totally right
14:51 kf                totally wrong default view
14:51 wizzyrea          why the request is the default view?!
14:51 kf                you were
14:51 jcamins           Was I right or was I right?
14:51 kf                and broken umlauts
14:51 wizzyrea          whut.
14:51 wizzyrea          uh.
14:50 kf                what is this when I want to look at a record?
14:50 jcamins           lol
14:50 wizzyrea          I like their faceting tho
14:50 kf                omg
14:50 wizzyrea          whao
14:50 kf                bit minimalistic result list
14:50 kf                hm
14:50 wizzyrea          man, I don't even know where to look at that page. all that text might as well be invisible.
14:49 jcamins           ;)
14:49 jcamins           Figure it out eventually.
14:49 jcamins           Get angry.
14:49 chris_n           wizzyrea: pleased don't hesitate next time :-)
14:49 jcamins           Get confused.
14:49 jcamins           Try to view a record.
14:49 jcamins           Search for, well, anything.
14:49 jcamins           http://explore.bl.uk/
14:48 kf                ?
14:48 jcamins           Whoah... Primo has gone waaaaaay over-the-top nextgen-y.
14:48 wizzyrea          but again, didn't feel competent to point it out
14:47 wizzyrea          i was uh, wondering why you were doing that. :P
14:47 chris_n           so says the oracle at #dbi
14:47 chris_n           moral of the story.... don't use placeholders for anything other than values
14:47 wizzyrea          mhm, sorta kinda chilly out there. but not really.
14:47 huginn            wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 12.7°C (9:46 AM CDT on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
14:47 wizzyrea          @wunder 66049
14:47 magnuse           66 degrees Fahrenheit = 18.8888889 degrees Celsius
14:46 magnuse           but i have more sunlight than any of y'all :-)
14:46 wizzyrea          near zeros I have a feel for.
14:46 wizzyrea          20's-30's I have a feel for
14:46 * wizzyrea        gets lost somewhere in the teens on celsius.
14:46 magnuse           um, yay!
14:46 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
14:46 magnuse           @wunder boo
14:46 huginn            kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.4°C (4:44 PM CEST on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
14:46 magnuse           according to teh googles
14:46 kf                @wunder Konstanz
14:45 magnuse           91 degrees Fahrenheit = 32.7777778 degrees Celsius
14:45 * wizzyrea        curses the NWS for not having a C view.
14:45 wizzyrea          19 I guess
14:44 wizzyrea          what's that uh.. 18?
14:43 magnuse           especially if we are talking celcius...
14:43 wizzyrea          a pretty close to perfect 66 is expected here today
14:43 wizzyrea          91! that's pretty hot.
14:43 wizzyrea          oh mah lerd.
14:41 sekjal            even if it weren't a holiday, folks would still be buggin' out of here
14:41 sekjal            it's going to get up to 91 F today... and that's outside, where the building heat ISN'T STILL ON!
14:40 * wizzyrea        dreams of empty offices
14:40 sekjal            :)  already working on it
14:40 wizzyrea          omg. quick, get sekjal the qa queue ;)
14:40 sekjal            today is a MA state holiday... my office is empty save for me
14:39 wizzyrea          i think it has to do with the ' around the column name
14:39 magnuse           yeah...
14:39 wizzyrea          works with the quotes on the command line tho
14:39 magnuse           quotes around the value for id - probably a number, not a string?
14:38 * chris_n         goes off to find out how to keep dbi from quoting the field name
14:38 wizzyrea          i have spoken it, it must be true.
14:38 wahanui           i heard monday was better
14:38 chris_n           monday?
14:38 wahanui           friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday
14:38 wizzyrea          um. friday?
14:38 chris_n           what day is it?
14:38 chris_n           shessh
14:38 chris_n           that's nto the table name
14:38 chris_n           boy do I need coffee
14:37 * wizzyrea        goes balls out with ignorance this morning
14:37 wizzyrea          YES, that's what I was thinking but I don't know enough about dbi to know if that was the proper syntax
14:37 chris_n           hmm... I probably should not parameterize the table name
14:36 chris_n           seems DBI is doing it
14:36 pastebot          "chris_n" at pasted "code for above SQL" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/347
14:35 jcamins           Yeah, there shouldn't be any quotes around source.
14:35 sekjal            ^^
14:35 chris_n           om
14:35 wizzyrea          looks like you have extra ' s
14:35 chris_n           mysql>
14:35 chris_n           ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ''source' = 'Abraham Lincoln' WHERE id ='3'' at line 1
14:35 chris_n           mysql> UPDATE quotes SET 'source' = 'Abraham Lincoln' WHERE id ='3';
14:35 chris_n           could it be the quotes around the table name?
14:34 wizzyrea          what's the code generating that
14:34 * chris_n         digs out the fudge as bait
14:34 chris_n           ^^
14:34 pastebot          "chris_n" at pasted "Another set of eyeballs... please" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/346
14:26 wizzyrea          lolol
14:26 slef              I knew that was in there somewhere
14:26 wahanui           I became sentient a couple of weeks ago
14:26 slef              wahanui: real?
14:25 wahanui           wish i knew, slef
14:25 slef              wahanui: are you real?
14:25 wahanui           i haven't a clue, slef
14:25 slef              wahanui: are you real?
14:12 jwagner           wahanui is a bot, not a real person.  Try looking at this link, and also the "Map your bibliographic data" link in it: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/implementation.html#imp-migration
14:11 vinod             please help regarding marc conversion problem
14:10 vinod             yes please
14:10 wahanui           hey, vinod
14:10 vinod             hello
14:02 vinod             suggest me any other method
14:02 vinod             i have tried with marc editor but no options to do that i have tried a lot
14:02 slef              I use xsltproc to process the marcxml. Other people use marcedit or the koha-migration.git.
14:01 vinod             how can i for approx 15 thousan record
14:01 slef              Use whatever you used it edit MARC files to do it.
14:01 vinod             how can i bring it in each item or any other way
14:01 slef              I think you need to put them into 952$o before you import them.
14:01 vinod             no this is the problem
14:00 slef              does each 952 field have a call number in 952$o?
14:00 vinod             yes
14:00 slef              do you have one 952 for each item?
13:59 vinod             no in 952 field there is only one call number against one item and separately there are 082 fiels
13:58 slef              vinod: so you have repeated 082 fields, one for each book?
13:57 vinod             during importing in koha it accepts for only one item rest does not shows call number allthough i have also given call number to 082 fiels
13:56 vinod             my marc data contain only call number of one book/item whereas one record contain several items/book how can i give call number to each
13:55 vinod             needed help
13:46 shahas            i tried z39.50 search ,,,but am getting nothing found,,,,
13:45 shahas            it is imported to reservoir
13:44 slef              shahas: Tools: Manage staged MARC records; or Cataloguing: Add MARC Record: Z39.50 Search, depending how the record got into reservoir
13:36 shahas            how to load record from reservoir to catalog
13:35 shahas            hii
13:31 drojf             slef: thanks, i'll have a look
13:30 drojf             slef: i have seen one but that was already booked out last week
13:30 slef              Ceilidh-donia
13:29 slef              drojf: I only know of one so far but I have not really been asking
13:18 drojf             kohacon question: are there hotels in edinburgh already known to be populated by koha people?
12:42 druthb            :)  Hi, oleonard!
12:42 oleonard          Hi druthb
12:36 druthb            o/
12:28 kf                aw :)
12:28 wahanui           oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
12:28 kf                h oleonard
12:27 oleonard          Hi #koha
12:13 Amit_Gupta        heya kf
12:09 kf                and hi jcamins_away :)
12:09 kayser            kf, found the default value opition under adcanced constrants
12:06 jcamins_away      ^^ I do that.
12:04 kf                kayser: sorry. I think you could also add a default value if you have a code- so it would get filled out automatically
12:00 kayser            I figuered out that the value should be the same on all books so i can edit that later in case. Only a small childrens school and the only need a working library Thanks for the support!
11:55 jcamins_away      *make marc 040$c
11:55 jcamins_away      kayser: you could marc 040$c not mandatory, but if you do that you won't be able to share your records. I generally recommend that people just register for an organization code, since it's free.
11:53 drojf             kayser: that's not really a koha question i guess, just a matter of your local conventions. if you do not plan to share your records with others you can basically do it how you think it works best for you. i doubt koha does rely on that value. if you don't need it, you could change the marc framework to non-mandatory for that field and see if that works for you
11:50 shahas            \\\\am getting error while saving MARC record,,Software error: Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2245.
11:42 kayser            kf, trying to save record but i have to fill in 040 c field but i have read that it should be the same as 040 a. Do i remove the mandetory value? how imortant is it? almost only childrens book in the library
11:42 Oak               kia ora #koha
11:41 skk               what is the sql query to check for existence of 999 in all marc records so that i can find a record which creates problem while reindexing
11:37 kf                kayser: what is your problem?
11:34 kayser            Hello, can i get a little bit of support here? problem with the 040 c field.
11:34 kf                I am not sure how to find the record now - you could try to find some sql to check for existence of 999 in all marc records perhaps
11:34 skk               is there any way to find out that
11:33 skk               no idea nw if it would have gt deleted
11:33 kf                they are necessary for koha to work corectly
11:33 kf                did you change frameworks and maybe deleted one of the 9xx fields by accident?
11:33 skk               hw to find out this
11:32 kf                skk: sounds like you have one record with missing data
11:32 skk               we are getting an error while reindexing zebra and are not able to search any records. can some one help to sort out the error. MARC: Base address does not follow directory 16/04 zebraidx(11101) [warn] MARC: Bad offsets in data. Skipping rest 16:13:38-16/04 zebraidx(11101) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
11:26 shahas            \\\
11:10 skk               we are getting an error while reindexing zebra and are not able to search any records. can some one help to sort out the error. MARC: Base address does not follow directory 16/04 zebraidx(11101) [warn] MARC: Bad offsets in data. Skipping rest 16:13:38-16/04 zebraidx(11101) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
10:53 magnuse           yup :-)
10:52 sturmtruppen      nice bot anyway.
10:52 magnuse           sturmtruppen: huginn is a bot that someone is running somehwere
10:52 shahas            am getting error while saving MARC record,,Software error: Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2245.
10:51 shahas            hhhhi
10:51 drojf             hi kf :)
10:51 sturmtruppen      it's a script of the localserver or OFTC?
10:51 kf                hi drojf
10:51 sturmtruppen      wow, powerfull.
10:49 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (10:00 PM NZST on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Rising).
10:49 magnuse           @wunder wellington, nz
10:49 magnuse           sturmtruppen: you can also ask it for ordinary place names
10:49 sturmtruppen      cool...best then blackberry travel!
10:49 huginn            sturmtruppen: The current temperature in Gallarate (VA), Italy is 12.3°C (12:44 PM CEST on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
10:48 sturmtruppen      @wunder mxp
10:48 sturmtruppen      now i try...
10:48 sturmtruppen      ah, ok. thank you
10:48 drojf             hi magnuse :)
10:48 sturmtruppen      ah, ok. thank you
10:48 magnuse           hiya drojf
10:48 drojf             hello #koha
10:48 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Zlin - Stipa, Czech Republic is 7.3°C (12:33 PM CEST on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
10:47 magnuse           @wunder gtw
10:47 magnuse           "boo" is the code for my local airport
10:47 magnuse           pff
10:47 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Verhotur'E, Russia is 13.0°C (12:00 PM YEKT on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
10:47 magnuse           @wunder is a way to ask for weather reports
10:47 sturmtruppen      ?
10:47 sturmtruppen      what means "@wunder boo"
10:46 magnuse           sunshine++
10:45 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
10:45 magnuse           @wunder boo
10:45 magnuse           yay for being able to eat lunch outdoors!
10:24 skk               can someone help to sort out this error
10:24 skk               we are not able to search records and after rebuild zebra it gives an error as  zebraidx(10911) [warn] MARC: Base address does not follow directory 15:50:58-16/04 zebraidx(10911) [warn] MARC: Bad offsets in data. Skipping rest 15:50:58-16/04 zebraidx(10911) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-num
10:08 shahas            hh
10:07 shahas            /
10:03 kf                and improve it :P
10:01 mveron            kf: Steal it from the best :-)
10:00 kf                mveron: it's how I work most of the time :)
10:00 magnuse           kf++
10:00 mveron            kf: thanks, it's always good to have coding examles!
10:00 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Add biblio.subtitle and appropriate mappings to MARC frameworks
10:00 kf                mveron: bug 7715
10:00 shahas            am getting error while saving MARC record,,Software error: Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2245.
09:59 kf                and there is a recent patch adding a new field you could copy from
09:59 kf                take a look at biblio.pm
09:58 kf                mveron: to make it happen
09:58 kf                mveron: I think you have to add some code
09:57 shahas            let me asl one error in my koha 3.6
09:57 mle_              hi
09:57 shahas            hi
09:53 mveron            Which step do I miss?
09:53 mveron            If I change 521 a or add new record with something in 521 a the values do not show up in 'select agerestriction from biblioitems'
09:53 mveron            rangi: I added (manually) a column agerestriction to biblioitems then mapped it with 'Koha to MARC mapping' to field 521 a
09:37 magnuse           slef: yay :-)
09:37 slef              magnuse: yes
09:37 slef              renren_1922: I don't know which RFID SIP-2 you are trying to install. Probably on client.
09:32 magnuse           s/an/any/
09:32 magnuse           s/report/reports/
09:31 magnuse           wouldn't it be nice to be able to associate templates with report, so you could print them in an format you wanted?
09:27 renren_1922       is it on koha server or on client?
09:27 renren_1922       - In what pc where Im gonna install the RFID SIP-2?
09:14 magnuse           found one
09:12 magnuse           anyone know an opac where the "Browse by author or subject" feature is active and working?
09:04 kf                hehe I won't
09:04 magnuse           kf: you'll regret saying that moahaha ;-)
09:03 kf                busy
09:03 kf                I can tell you, but still busdxy
09:03 kf                magnuse: ask me again a bit later?
09:01 magnuse           so i'm testing analytic records and child records display links to parent records, but parent records are not displaying links to child records - is that how it's supposed to be?
08:39 sturmtruppen      morning #koha
08:11 marcelr           ideas enough, but want to see other subjects first
08:11 marcelr           hi kf
08:10 renren_1922       so the RFID will install on the Client side right?
08:10 kf                marcelr: do you have an idea what you want to talk about?
08:10 slef              :(
08:10 marcelr           if there is a list on wednesday, i still have time
08:10 * slef            swears about $otherProject and people who submit enhancements by just mailing the edited file
08:09 slef              marcelr: if in doubt, submit it. Only an abstract is requested. The worst that can happen is it gets rejected in favour of another talk.
08:08 marcelr           first know what it there already
08:08 marcelr           well could take a look if i could add one myself
08:08 slef              marcelr: why do you want them?
08:08 marcelr           ok
08:07 slef              marcelr: probably before Wednesday's meeting
08:07 slef              marcelr: not yet. This week.
08:06 marcelr           slef: is there any page listing the submitted papers for kohacon and hackfest?
08:06 samuel            hi slef
08:06 marcelr           hi slef
08:05 slef              hi all
08:05 slef              most of them install on the client I think, but it depends on the RFID pad and I missed the start of this discussion
08:02 renren_1922       where do im going to install the RFID? in the KOHA server or in the client PC?
08:01 renren_1922       guy question..
08:01 renren_1922       thanks
07:55 renren_1922       what is SIP-2 RFID it will install to the Debian koha server or in the client pc that with windows OS?
07:54 renren_1922       sir
07:51 rangi             it's a good feature
07:51 rangi             no problem
07:50 mveron            rangi: Thanks a lot.
07:47 rangi             MARC: The standard that isn't
07:47 rangi             and using the mappings, its still configurable, but not via sysprefs, via the mappings instead, which will mean it should work for all flavours of MARC
07:47 rangi             or something like that :) since in that subroutine we already have all in the biblioitems data in a hashref
07:46 rangi             if ($data->{'agerestriction'} == 10){
07:46 rangi             or, in our case
07:46 rangi             then its just a simple select biblionumber from biblioitems where agerestriction = ?
07:46 mveron            rangi: Thanks, great, (Still learning...)
07:45 rangi             then when someone imports, or catalogues, because that column is mapped, it will end up in the biblioitems table
07:45 kf                mveron: look at koha-to-marc-mappings on the administration page
07:45 rangi             mveron: well if you add a column to biblioitems, then you can map that to any marcsubfield in the frameworks
07:43 mveron            rangi: Thanks for the explanation. I am not quit sure I understand the framwork thing. Maybe you can give me a pointer (e.g. to code wher I can see how it is done)?
07:42 rangi             http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/labelcreator.html
07:42 renren_1922       manual barcode generator
07:42 renren_1922       yes
07:41 wahanui           manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
07:41 rangi             manual?
07:41 renren_1922       yes
07:40 rangi             you mean printing barcodes?
07:40 renren_1922       thanks
07:40 renren_1922       can i help me guys where to find the barcode generation on koha?
07:40 mveron            hi kf
07:39 renren_1922       good day sri
07:39 rangi             it shouldn't break
07:39 rangi             i do think the frameworks is the most portable way, because if you add it to the marc21, normarc, and unimarc one
07:38 rangi             then probably the next best thing, would be to get a MARC::Record object and do the comparison on the field that way
07:37 rangi             if you didnt want to store the value in biblioitems
07:36 rangi             then it will break, also, versions of mysql pre 5.1 don't support it
07:36 rangi             the problem with doing the extractvalue of the marcxml, means that if we do decide to switch to turbomarc, or using the marccolumn etc ..
07:35 rangi             mveron: yep you would have to do it in the frameworks, im fairly sure there is a marc field for it already
07:34 dheeraj           can we customize koha our own
07:34 mveron            But that would be kind of hard wired, no? And the field where the age info is stored would not longer be configurable by sysprefs?
07:34 mveron            You say: "It might be better to adapt the frameworks to link the MARC field to a column in biblioitems."
07:34 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories
07:34 mveron            rangi: I need additional advise on your comment to Bug 7621
07:33 mveron            hi everybody
07:33 rangi             hi samuel
07:32 samuel            hello everybody!
07:31 magnuse           yup, that's the beauty of it :-)
07:31 dheeraj           ok, any changes required can we do it our self
07:30 magnuse           well, just install it and use *it*, basically...
07:30 magnuse           well, just install it and use, basically...
07:29 dheeraj           how we can train on koha
07:29 magnuse           dheeraj: there is no such thing as a "certifited koha professional"
07:29 dheeraj           need guidence for becoming koha support partner
07:29 magnuse           dheeraj: http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/how-to-get-listed/
07:28 dheeraj           hi
07:28 asaurat           hi
07:28 dheeraj           how me and my team can become certifited koha professional
07:27 dheeraj           can you guide how i can be support partner of koha in india
07:27 wahanui           hey, dheeraj
07:27 dheeraj           hi
07:23 rangi             evening
07:07 gaetan_B          hello #koha !
07:02 sophie_m          hello :-)
07:01 sophie_m          heloo #koha
06:53 julian_m          hello
06:52 reiveune          hello
06:39 magnuse           eythian: ah yes, that would do it, i guess ;-)
06:37 eythian           magnuse: well, library software madness in this case.
06:35 magnuse           ?
06:35 huginn            magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
06:35 magnuse           @quote get 123
06:35 magnuse           library madness?
06:35 eythian           this one machine-generated file has dates both in the form 28 October 2011 and 28/11/2011. What madness is this?
06:32 magnuse           hiya marcelr & #koha
06:31 marcelr           hi alex_a, mveron & magnuse
06:30 mveron            bonjour #koha
06:29 alex_a            bonjour
06:27 marcelr           hello koha
06:26 francharb         good morning
06:13 cait              hi Amit_Gupta
06:13 Amit_Gupta        heya cait
05:26 eythian           hi cait
05:26 cait              hi eythian and rangi :)
05:26 rangi             Or record is too long try with -x
05:18 eythian           it generally means something is iffy with your data.
05:16 mib_jytdee        thanks
05:16 mib_jytdee        anyone have an idea that could fix this issue?
05:15 mib_jytdee        good morning
05:15 cait              morning #koha
05:14 mib_jytdee        and i can't see in the catalogue the records that i have just create
05:14 mib_jytdee        when i reindex the record with Zebradb
05:13 mib_jytdee        Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
05:13 mib_jytdee        i have tried with -x but i get the same error
04:54 rangi             try it with -x
04:54 mib_8wa7ju        usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tool/rebuil_zebra.pl -b -r -v
04:52 mib_8wa7ju        like this
04:51 rangi             yay for mibbit!
04:50 mib_vcfq4w        like this:
04:49 rangi             but either way, you shouldn't get that error, how are you running the reindex?
04:49 mib_vcfq4w        you have the reason
04:49 mib_vcfq4w        3.6.4
04:49 mib_vcfq4w        sorry
04:49 rangi             hmm the latest is 3.6.4
04:48 mib_vcfq4w        3.6.2
04:48 mib_vcfq4w        the last version
04:48 rangi             what version of koha?
04:48 mib_vcfq4w        zebraidx(5748) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
04:48 mib_vcfq4w        Hi everyone. I have just installed koha. i have create a new record, but when i try to reindex with Zebra i get the following error:
03:10 eythian           Display856uAsImage
03:10 eythian           that might suit
03:09 rangi             there is a syspref to enable you to use 866$u for that
03:09 eythian           I remember seeing it one day, but now I can't remember.
03:08 rangi             not me
03:08 eythian           s/that/that is/
03:08 eythian           Somewhere, there's a MARC field for linking to an image of something. Anyone know what that? Not 856$u.
02:52 eythian           http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2007/04/10/2065727.aspx <-- what "10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3" on book copyright pages means
02:52 eythian           ^Z bg
02:49 rangi             fg
02:44 renren            ahh ok
02:43 mtj               but yes... its the protocol that card-readers talk to PCs
02:43 mtj               s/no/not/ :)
02:42 mtj               "The Standard Interchange Protocol is a proprietary standard for communication between library computer systems and self-service circulation terminals."
02:42 mtj               no really -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Interchange_Protocol
02:41 renren            ok
02:41 mtj               so, best to ask RFID questions on the Koha lists - you should get some good info
02:41 renren            sip is the direct to pc card reader right?
02:40 mtj               i only have done SIP and 3M self-checkout machines
02:40 mtj               renren: me? i have not done any RFID with Koha , but many people have
02:38 renren            by the way.. what kind of rfid do u implement on koha?
02:37 renren            thanks for your help guys
02:35 mtj               http://kylehall.info/index.php/projects/koha/koha-virtual-appliance/
02:35 mtj               renren:  kyle.hall has some good Koha VMs
02:34 mtj               ... those are the 2 easiest ways to get a Koha running :)
02:33 mtj               yep, or download a Koha VM
02:33 renren            ok
02:33 mtj               Latest stable release	6.0.4 (Squeeze)  (28 January 2012; 2 months ago)
02:32 mtj               http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian
02:32 renren            so im going to download the debian squeeze to install the koha lib system?
02:32 mtj               fyi: 'squeeze' is debian-stable
02:32 renren            ok
02:32 mtj               i'm not sure what you mean
02:31 mtj               debian stable?
02:30 renren            what kind of debian linux?
02:30 mtj               hmmm, maybe... i have not tried myself
02:26 renren            is ubuntu is a debian packages?
02:24 renren            ok
02:22 mtj               http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
02:22 mtj               and i recommend to use the debian packages for Koha installation on linux
02:21 mtj               i do not know what brands of rfid to recommend to you
02:19 mtj               renren:  ask about rfid on the koha mailing-list
02:17 renren            what other ifid that support the koha lib system?
02:11 renren            are u still there?
02:10 renren            sir eythian
01:59 renren            when im installing a koha on linux, there is a lot of error when i comes to perl side
01:59 * eythian         -> meeting
01:59 eythian           also the INSTALL docs in the arvhice itself
01:59 eythian           have a look on the website and the wiki, there are plenty of guides there depending on how you want to isntall it
01:58 renren            im sorry but im a basic linux guy,
01:58 renren            by the way. do u have a installation manual regarding on koha?
01:58 eythian           yes, people have done it
01:57 renren            but it is possible to intigrate?
01:56 * rangi           has to go to a meeting in 5 mins, so you might be better asking this on the mailing list
01:55 rangi             hmm it will need some unique identifier still, does you rfid reader speak SIP2 ?
01:54 renren            is there a way to intigrate the rfid on koha library system aside from Bar code?
01:53 renren            i just want to ask about =koha
01:53 renren            hi
01:52 rangi             hi renren
01:52 renren            good day to all
01:44 rangi             oleonard++
01:31 rangi             heh
01:21 eythian           that was the error
01:19 mtj               aw, c'mon... whats the error?
00:05 mib_1s3kly        i have create a new record, but when i try to index the database with Zebra i get this error:
00:04 mib_1s3kly        I have just installed koha
00:04 mib_1s3kly        Hi everyone!