Time Nick Message 22:44 jcamins_away Reminders did seem to help with 7284, didn't they? 22:44 jcamins_away lol 22:42 ibeardslee rangi: wow, didn't know that. 21:55 rangi have good weekends all 21:55 rangi 30th anniversary of wellington becoming nuke free 21:54 rangi ok, off to hang out with the hippies and peaceniks 21:52 wizzyrea could be 21:52 rangi it could be just that wordpress forms were(are?) used a lot to spam through 21:48 wizzyrea it would be nice to know why people think it's spam 21:48 wizzyrea do lmk if you see a lot of that though 21:48 slef biab 21:47 slef wizzyrea++ 21:47 wizzyrea i'm efficient like that ;) 21:47 rangi :) 21:47 slef questions answered before they're asked :) 21:47 slef wizzyrea: can you se... right, thanks. 21:47 wizzyrea and looks like it technically sent ok 21:47 wizzyrea slef, must be spam catching - it's not stuck in the queue 21:43 * slef has been postmaster almost as long as webmaster 21:43 slef ec2-174-129-1-205.compute-1.amazonaws.com, but it's still good 21:42 wizzyrea oh good so it's not *that* 21:42 slef yeah, there's reverse DNS 21:42 rangi and yeah, running your workmail through gmail .. not something id do 21:42 slef I'll check 21:42 wizzyrea I just don't recall if I *did* or not. 21:41 wizzyrea well, not SO hard. 21:41 wizzyrea ah yea it might be spam related - it's ec2 so hard to get reverse DNS for it 21:41 rangi but yes moved to gmail 21:40 rangi well it started off zimbra 21:40 slef rangi: I bet you loved using gmail at a previous workplace... 21:40 rangi yup 21:40 slef and that folks is why I hate outsourced anti-spam. It's too often out of control rubbish that causes trouble. 21:39 slef I bet it traps wordpress forms 21:39 slef they're both using outsourced anti-spam 21:38 slef no rush. I've remailed them the info 21:38 slef but the recipient email addresses are with you now 21:36 slef except I'm an idiot and deleted the form times and IPs 21:34 wizzyrea (but it's almost time for me to go, just fyi - gotta pick up the kiddo) 21:34 wizzyrea sure I can check 21:32 slef mailing them and grabbing times and IPs to message you 21:32 slef form settings look OK 21:32 slef wizzyrea: 2 people report not getting the sponsor form autoreply today. I'm going to check the form settings, but are you able to check the webserver mail logs if needed? 21:31 rangi on its way 21:29 rangi good idea 21:29 rangi ahh yes 21:29 slef yes it's a good idea. I really must repost this one to LIS-KOHA too 21:28 rangi ill try to sign off your new_bib thing this evening too slef 21:27 rangi :) 21:27 wizzyrea HINT HINT NUDGE NUDGE 21:27 wizzyrea see how it worked for jcamins and his authorities dev? ;) 21:27 wizzyrea more reminders are never a bad idea 21:27 rangi think it's a good idea? 21:26 rangi 7 days until call for papers close 21:26 rangi i might send another mail to the list 21:26 rangi sweet as 21:26 slef not sure. I need to count up but haven't had chance today 21:24 rangi how are we looking numbers wise for speakers now? i figure we need about 7 per day? (of conf itself) 21:23 rangi hmm a couple? 21:22 slef how many do you want? 21:22 slef erm not sure. probably. 21:22 rangi excellent! 21:22 rangi oh, kohacon, anymore things you want me to review 21:21 slef or something I stuffed up on sponsorship... 2 so far today 21:21 slef new_bib?items=1 maybe? 21:20 slef hehehe 21:19 rangi cant remember, mustnt have been important 21:16 slef rangi: no. why? 20:16 oleonard :) 20:16 cait and meaning it too :) 20:16 cait hah! i did it before you logged out :) 20:16 cait happy weekend oleonard 20:16 oleonard Happy weekend all 19:59 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded. 19:59 nengard @later tell paul_p i finished the help files and they're attached to bug 7936 Thanks!! 19:57 cait lol 19:57 rangi i have that effect 19:57 cait dpavlin++ 19:56 rangi :) 19:55 cait was so quiet :) 19:55 rangi g 19:55 cait t 19:47 rangi slef: about? 19:35 rangi https://kohakenya.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/r-i-p-the-kardex/ 19:31 jcamins Hehe. 19:31 wahanui morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 19:31 jcamins Morning. 19:31 wahanui i guess Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 19:31 jcamins Morning? 19:31 jcamins Morning 19:31 wahanui okay, druthb. 19:31 druthb morning is also whenever the cat wants breakfast. 19:31 jcamins JesseM: you could make it into a turing machine by using a wall of card catalogs for the game of life. 19:30 wahanui morning is a state of mind. 19:30 jcamins Morning. 19:29 druthb hi, rangi! :) 19:28 cait morning rangi 19:28 rangi morning 19:27 JesseM Card Catalogs still have a use! :P http://vimeo.com/39461899 19:16 cait but yeah, only works if you are logged in 19:16 cait oleonard: agreed 19:12 oleonard Ugh, it's a mess. 19:04 oleonard And if AnonSuggestions is off, should I have to be logged in to view others' suggestions? 19:04 oleonard If AnonSuggestions and OPACViewOthersSuggestions are both on shouldn't I be able to see all suggestions even if I'm not logged in? 19:03 oleonard OPACViewOthersSuggestions doesn't seem to be working as I imagine it should 18:53 jcamins We should put the items table on the MARC and Labelled MARC views in the staff client, now that it no longer shows up in the MARC. 18:47 nengard :) 18:43 jcamins Oh. 18:43 jcamins Yes? 18:43 cait you can see it in the koha-to-marc-mappings 18:43 cait not controlfields 18:43 nengard thanks cait 18:43 cait you cna only map fields 18:43 cait 260 18:43 nengard hehe 18:42 wahanui somebody said jcamins was an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra 18:42 nengard jcamins? 18:39 nengard the 008 or the 260? 18:39 nengard what field populates the biblio.copyrightdate field? 18:34 jcamins It would also force people to provde help files when they add new features. 18:34 nengard maybe someone could :) not sure if I could 18:34 jcamins nengard: I bet you could write a unit test for xt/ that would check automatically that everything had a help file. 18:24 nengard we might need some new help files ? hopefully not 18:24 nengard at the very least all the links to the manual are updated 18:23 nengard i think i'm done with the help files 18:20 * jcamins uses irssi, the ultimate in unobtrusive messaging. 18:19 cait hehe 18:19 talljoy may need to update that to "enjoys seeing her name in lights" lol 18:19 wahanui I CRUNCH DATA or kicking butt at words with friends 18:19 talljoy talljoy? 18:19 jcamins oleonard: stop picking on talljoy. 18:19 druthb oleonard: That talljoy is pretty darn amazing, isn't she? 18:19 talljoy ping 18:19 talljoy ping ping 18:19 talljoy lol 18:19 oleonard Everyone be considerate to talljoy and only say talljoy's name when you really have something to say to talljoy 18:18 talljoy my pings and pings and pings all day. whenever you say my name! heh 18:17 * druthb can't hardly use Mibbit--the message boxes are a little *too* unobtrusive; I have my Pidgin set to scream like a banshee when someone PMs me. 18:16 talljoy :-D 18:16 druthb :) 18:16 YoungPublicLibrarian druthb: LOL! Why yes I am! But they aren't flashing, just grey tabs showed up...and I was completely oblivious to them! 18:14 druthb YoungPublicLibrarian: you're using Mibbit to chat with us in here, aren't you? Look up there^^^ there's *at least* one box flashing, indicating private messages for you. :) 18:12 YoungPublicLibrarian yes, circ assistants do shelving, circ desk, computer support, and anything else needed in the library.... 18:12 * druthb nods 18:12 talljoy right. and no fines 18:11 jcamins druthb: because the Koha offline circ won't catch holds anyway. 18:11 talljoy right, i guess i was referring to the offline Koha circulation. 18:11 jcamins druthb: yeah, but they can't reshelve anything anyway. 18:10 druthb jcamins, wizzyrea, talljoy: Part of the problem with using Voyager offline circ, as I understand it from George at Latah, is that it only does checkouts--not checkins. *INSANE* 18:10 * druthb catches up from the logs. 18:08 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: and the circ assistants do shelving? 18:07 YoungPublicLibrarian We don't...there are cataloguers and circulation assistants...most of our libraries do not use pages... 18:04 talljoy hi druthb! 18:04 druthb o/ 18:03 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: who do you have for pages in your public libraries? 18:02 YoungPublicLibrarian That's not a bad idea...except it would be bring your "grand child" to work week! And only our school libraries have high schoolers for pages...Which is only about a third of our system... 17:56 jcamins I am not entirely joking. 17:53 talljoy LOL 17:53 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: make the next week "bring your child to work week." 17:53 talljoy had to create graphs for his science project. he had to teach me. 17:53 jcamins There you go. 17:53 talljoy my 8 year old knows spreadsheets better than me. lol 17:53 jcamins Maybe even elementary or middle school, though I don't know anyone who has been to either of those recently. 17:52 jcamins Increasingly, using spreadsheets is a skill taught in highschool. 17:52 jcamins talljoy_away: most of them will be able to figure out Excel, at least. 17:52 wizzyrea at least trained in excel. 17:51 talljoy_away ha! more tech savvy than their elders often! 17:51 jcamins Have them at the circ desks. 17:51 jcamins They're probably there during your peak periods. 17:51 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: here's a suggestion: you have highschoolers as pages in a bunch of your libraries, right? 17:50 talljoy_away YoungPublicLibrarian: hi! if you plan to use the offline circ tool, you will need a borrowers.db file and that can be given to you before your official go live date. 17:47 jcamins Right. 17:47 wizzyrea and no one will know how to use offline circ. 17:47 jcamins Except some people will know how to use spreadsheets. 17:47 wizzyrea they're about equal. 17:47 wizzyrea and really, confusion wise 17:47 wizzyrea well, you've got two options - get the data and processes right, or use the offline circ 17:47 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: I don't think the offline circ option would be *easier*. 17:45 YoungPublicLibrarian It would take me 10 minutes to explain how to set up and use just the columns to most of the people in my library alone... 17:44 wizzyrea responsibly. 17:44 wizzyrea like riding a motorcycle. 17:44 wizzyrea go slowly, be aware. 17:44 wizzyrea yea, no crazy scanning. 17:44 cait but always be careful... whatever you use 17:44 wizzyrea we like spreadsheets because the data is segregated 17:43 cait and scan the barcodes in there 17:43 wizzyrea that has been done too 17:43 cait one for returns and one for checouts 17:43 cait you could also use 2 text files 17:43 cait hm 17:43 wizzyrea and you won't miss things. 17:43 wizzyrea but it will work 17:43 wizzyrea it'll take a while 17:43 wizzyrea it's tedious. 17:43 wizzyrea and go at it, copy/paste style. 17:43 wizzyrea then, when you are ready to replay them, you grab a page 17:42 wizzyrea returns can go in column d or e or f or wherever 17:42 wizzyrea column b: book barcode 17:42 wizzyrea column A: patron 17:42 wizzyrea here's what we do 17:42 YoungPublicLibrarian And very few people in at least half the libraries in our system have any decent understanding of spreadsheets...:S 17:40 jcamins A week is a *long* time, though. 17:39 jcamins I think spreadsheets are the way to go. 17:39 wizzyrea yikes. 17:38 YoungPublicLibrarian We haven't been able to catalogue in almost three weeks! :( 17:38 YoungPublicLibrarian ^^ Exactly! 17:38 jcamins wizzyrea: right, so it only has to be up for one day. 17:38 wizzyrea jcamins: I think their server is like, deaths door crashing 17:38 jcamins And I have no idea how long replaying offline circs takes in Voyager. 17:38 * jcamins hasn't tried that. 17:37 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: you might try using Voyager's offline circ, then shut down the OPAC a day early, and spend that day replaying the circs so that you can give ByWater a current dump? 17:37 wizzyrea no renewals, no holds processed, no fines processed (or it would be very messy if it was) 17:37 wizzyrea it's just - a week is a long time, you probably have pretty high volume 17:37 wizzyrea really don't 17:37 wizzyrea I don't mean to sound negative - I don 17:36 YoungPublicLibrarian Wizzyrea and Jcamins: Thanks for all the help! At least I understand a bit more than I did before! 17:36 YoungPublicLibrarian Yeah, a mess sums up the entire situation! :/ 17:35 wizzyrea yep, that's the version I last tested. 17:35 wizzyrea sounds like a mess 17:35 YoungPublicLibrarian Here is the link that ByWater provided us: http://millruntech.com/downloads/koha-offline-circulation/windows/19-koha-offline-circulation-1-2-setup 17:35 wizzyrea not to mention not updating 17:35 jcamins wizzyrea: looks like it was last updated in October 2010. 17:35 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: even if that supports fine collection, the reason I had in mind that you couldn't collect fines was that until ByWater gets the final dump from your Voyager database, the fine information in Koha will be unreliable. 17:35 wizzyrea but that has been a while 17:34 wizzyrea i haven't used the app one lately, last time I tested it, it was broken in ways that made me not want to use it. 17:33 YoungPublicLibrarian We have over 70 libraries...but I'm sure we could manage it... 17:33 wizzyrea do note, we have 40 libraries, and we use a spreadsheet. 17:33 YoungPublicLibrarian Ah, no ByWater told us never to use the firefox addon because it was broke. They have a downloadable tool that we install on the computer and use as an application... 17:32 wizzyrea at least not using the firefox addon 17:32 wizzyrea I saw no place to collect fines. 17:32 * wizzyrea was just looking at it 17:31 wizzyrea all of the usual things happen. 17:31 YoungPublicLibrarian I thought you could use the offline circ for collecting fines? 17:31 wizzyrea because then, when you go back and put the data in on your live system 17:31 wizzyrea and checkins 17:31 wizzyrea and track renewals in a separate file 17:31 jcamins ^^ 17:31 wizzyrea in some ways it might be better to just use a spreadsheet, and track cards/items that way 17:31 jcamins Probably no reshelving, due to the holds issue. 17:30 jcamins No collecting fines. 17:30 wizzyrea right, and no adding patrons, no deleting patrons 17:30 jcamins I wouldn't want to use offline circ as a stopgap for more than a few days, because you won't be able to handle renewals or holds, and if ByWater doesn't have a completely current dump of your Voyager database, it'll get very, very confused. 17:30 wizzyrea a week would be a long time on offline circ 17:29 YoungPublicLibrarian Jcamins: Okay, thanks for all the information! 17:29 YoungPublicLibrarian Wizzyrea: We go live on the 23rd of April 17:28 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: well, you'll definitely need to talk to ByWater. 17:28 wizzyrea and it won't process renewals or fill holds. How long are we talking about 17:28 YoungPublicLibrarian Hmm...from what the director said ByWater suggested using it. Our old system is Voyager... 17:26 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: you'd need to talk to ByWater about that... I don't it'd work unless you made your old system entirely read-only until go-live. 17:25 YoungPublicLibrarian Ah okay. Well we haven't actually went live yet. But our old system is crashing and the director wanted to use the offline tool until our Koha system went live... 17:22 wizzyrea or of less use. 17:22 wizzyrea otherwise it's no use to you 17:22 jcamins Sometimes more than a skosh. 17:22 wizzyrea ad you'll have to remember to download it *before* you go offline 17:22 wizzyrea remember that it's always a skosh out of date 17:22 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: ByWater can generate the offline circulation database for you. 17:21 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: whoops... got you confused with a different library, I think. You're not located in Quebec, are you? 17:21 YoungPublicLibrarian Ah! Bywater Solutions is our vendor... 17:19 jcamins I combined the two to conclude that you worked with a vendor called Libeo. ;) 17:19 jcamins I also thought I remembered hearing that a support vendor called "Libeo" won an award. 17:19 jcamins I thought I remembered hearing that they won an award for their work with you. :) 17:18 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: I meant your support vendor, whoever they are. 17:18 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: who is your support vendor? 17:18 YoungPublicLibrarian lol, maybe I should stop asking. Considering I haven't the slightest clue what libeo is either... 17:17 jcamins You'll probably need libeo to set it up for you. 17:17 jcamins That's where the file is. 17:15 YoungPublicLibrarian misc/cronjobs? I don't know what that means...:( 17:14 wizzyrea create_koc_db.pl 17:14 wizzyrea it's in misc/cronjobs I think 17:14 cait I have never tried it out so far :( 17:14 cait YoungPublicLibrarian: I think you need to run a script on command line for that 17:13 YoungPublicLibrarian Quick (hopefully) Question: How do you create a borrowers.db file to use with the Koha Offline Circulation tool? 16:58 wizzyrea hi cait :) 16:58 cait :) 16:58 cait hi all 16:58 wizzyrea right 16:58 jcamins wizzyrea: right, I meant, all check-ins done using the KOCT plugin. 16:57 wizzyrea for koct checkins 16:57 jcamins wizzyrea: you mean for all check-ins? 16:57 wizzyrea at least you need to get a report out that says "hey you, double check this item" 16:56 wizzyrea right. No hold found messages are processed anywhere. that's a bit of a bug I think. 16:55 * wizzyrea double checks that 16:55 wizzyrea if you check in one that's on hold for someone else 16:55 wizzyrea of course, you miss the "hold found" messages 16:55 wizzyrea check in seems to work ok 16:54 wizzyrea it would not do a renewal 16:54 wizzyrea commit to koha gives "success" and apply directly, if you haven't committed first, gives "added" 16:53 wizzyrea but what's the difference between "apply directly" and "commit to koha" 16:53 wizzyrea well I got it to work on ff on mac 16:51 * oleonard gets nothing in the KOCT log when using it in Ubuntu 16:48 nengard_lunch really going to lunch now :) hehe 16:48 nengard_lunch i was gonna record it but then my computer crashed 16:48 nengard_lunch that's more than i got 16:48 * wizzyrea will try it 16:46 * oleonard is now getting "authentication failed" from the KOCT 16:46 nengard worst case i don't write a help file for it yet 16:46 nengard i think it's time for lunch - then i'll try this ff plugin thing again 16:45 nengard k - whole computer crashed 16:45 slef :) love ctcp 16:44 slef *** Time by oleonard is Friday, April 13, 2012 12:44:22 PM 16:44 wizzyrea ah so 16:44 oleonard 1PM for me 16:44 wizzyrea oleonard: I think it's past lunch time in your timezone 16:44 * oleonard checks the clock for proximity to lunch time 16:44 jcamins No one, that's who! 16:44 slef I think bad browsers like chrome is why we now have cookielaw.org 16:44 jcamins wizzyrea: I thought so. Who can resist sweet potato fries? 16:43 oleonard Mmmm... french fries... 16:43 wizzyrea well ok, sometimes those. 16:43 jcamins wizzyrea: not even sweet potato fries? 16:43 slef it's very hard to stop it leaking all your data to google and websites 16:42 wizzyrea hmm 16:42 slef it's missing features and there are next to no add-ons 16:42 * wizzyrea uses chromium on linux, chrome on mac 16:42 wizzyrea that freedom. 16:42 slef its user interface makes me want to kill its makers 16:42 wizzyrea oh oh 16:42 wizzyrea admittedly, I don't eat fries, french or otherwise. 16:42 slef well I have chromium installed but I only use it for video 16:41 wizzyrea do you? 16:41 slef wizzyrea: do you hate freedom? ;) 16:41 wizzyrea :) 16:41 slef mmmm... apple retarts 16:39 wizzyrea :P 16:39 wizzyrea plus, I use chrome P 16:38 jcamins I missed that. 16:38 * wizzyrea made a funny that wasn't funny. 16:38 jcamins lol 16:38 wizzyrea re-tart not restart 16:38 oleonard Session restore? 16:38 jcamins wizzyrea: how do you end up with a gazillion tabs if you're always restarting the browser? 16:37 jcamins (not for offline circ, just generally) 16:37 jcamins I think I'll continue using Chrome. 16:36 oleonard My problem is usually not getting it to restart but getting it to stop altogether when I want it to 16:36 nengard grrrr lost everything i had open :( 16:36 * wizzyrea retarts firefox all the time, the little web vixen. 16:36 nengard it crashed 16:36 nengard once i get FF to retart 16:35 nengard i'll try that 16:35 nengard k 16:35 oleonard In mine it has it nengard 16:35 nengard hmmm 16:35 nengard does the server field need an http:// 16:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7524 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Make it possible to generate a .koc file using the Firefox KOCT plugin 16:35 jwagner nengard, see my update on Bug 7524 -- same problem, there are underlying errors 16:35 nengard basically it doesn't do anything 16:34 nengard i put a barcode in the checkin and it doesn't save or go in the log - i do the same on checkout and it doesn't save or go in the log 16:33 oleonard What's not working? 16:33 nengard would you mind giving me some tips? cause it's still not working for me and i need to document it and write the help file 16:32 nengard you got the offline circ ff plugin to work right? 16:31 oleonard Yes 16:31 nengard oleonard around? 16:26 gaetan_B bye! 16:18 slef no string changes AFAIK 16:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , svc API should allow modification of items 16:18 slef Changes submitted for bug 7729 - there's a patch for new_bib which needs signoff, please. 15:58 nengard 2 more folders of help files! almost there 15:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7902 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables 15:54 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7902 - Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Reports Help Files for 3.8 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Patron Help Files 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Catalogue Help Files 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Patron Card Help Files 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Label Help Files 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Circ Help Files 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Holds Help File for 3.8 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Comments Moderation Help File 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Suggestion help file 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Authorities Help Files 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Marc Export Help File 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Tags help file 15:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7936 major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , general ticket for 3.8 help file updates 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Tools Help for 3.8 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Cataloging Help Files 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: Help file for Lists 15:54 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7936: 3.8 Help Files 15:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #714: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/714/ 15:47 kf and bye all and have a nice weekend :) 15:47 wizzyrea yw 15:47 kf thank you! even 15:47 kf wizzyrea++ thank youQ 15:16 reiveune BYE 15:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #714 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , DataTables in Koha 15:07 jenkins_koha oleonard: Bug 5345 [FOLLOW-UP] DataTables in Koha 15:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #713: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/713/ 15:03 esofiane Bye :) 15:02 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7902 - Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=012c6df0015b68dfa390d6ed4faedbc42c8af9ce> / Bug 7936: Reports Help Files for 3.8 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=382797340846c1455b7302f1c16945be0ba3af8d> / Bug 7936: Patron Help Files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a99852ccf8643c3f1 14:54 drojf hi jcamins 14:50 jcamins Good morning, #koha. 14:44 kf julian_m and asaurat did a bunch during hackfest 14:43 kf I think at the moment it's still a work in progress, some modules are covered, but not sure all 14:43 kf only in templates where it's used 14:43 kyleh kf: thanks, I thought the KohaDates plugin was included in all templates already. 14:41 nengard still working 14:41 nengard :) 14:41 magnuse nengard++ for all the help files 14:35 kf thx :) 14:35 paul_p kf yep 14:35 paul_p true things ;-) 14:35 kf paul_p: taking advantage of you being here - add marc veron to the history! :) 14:35 slef paul_p: I was just wondering what wahanui would say about you 14:35 paul_p slef, here 14:35 wahanui hmmm... apache is the ram hog 14:35 slef wahanui: apache? 14:35 wahanui the issue is, like, that his barcodes don't match what he entered into the system 14:35 slef wahanui: the issue? 14:34 wahanui well, paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee. 14:34 slef wahanui: paul_p? 14:34 wahanui thanks slef :) 14:34 slef wahanui: have a poisoned botsnack 14:34 wahanui coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines 14:34 kf coding guidelines? 14:34 kf check the coding guidelines 14:33 kf it's documented on the wiki 14:31 kyleh kf: how does one include the plugin the template? 14:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7953 trivial, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Needs Signoff , opacuserjs to the sco template 14:28 wizzyrea bug 7953 14:28 * wizzyrea pokes for a signoff on 7953 14:24 kf kyleh: about 7641 - the plugin should be included in the template, not in the pl file 14:22 kf paul_p: remember to add marc veron to the history? :) 14:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #713 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Star ratings in the opac 14:21 jenkins_koha veron: Bug 5668 Error during during insall with web installer, Step 3 14:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #712: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/712/ 14:20 wizzyrea is np, I just got in 14:20 kf sorry, longer meeting 14:17 wizzyrea kf: is the page better? 14:08 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 14:06 * wizzyrea waves 13:57 oleonard benjix: I see there is an INSTALL file for opensuse but it's a couple of years old 13:55 oleonard benjix: If Apache is not installed I suggest you search for instructions on how to install Apache on opensuse. We're not experts on that. 13:54 benjix how to get it installed back is the major problem 13:53 magnuse looks like zebra/koha can index georgian script out of the box - yay! 13:52 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5345 [FOLLOW-UP] DataTables in Koha <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=468995e4b3874036951a3971215af757ca86d148> 13:49 oleonard Apache needs to be restarted, or it isn't installed? 13:49 benjix how do I get it back? 13:48 benjix its missing from my installation 13:48 benjix who to restart apache2 13:48 benjix thnak 13:48 benjix k 13:46 clrh thx kf for your comment on 7956 I don't know very well the community workflow on translation (I know it's bad) I just know that before the patch I have "failed" in update and after it is ok 13:46 benjix how so i solve it? 13:46 benjix this problem displays 13:45 benjix hi 13:45 wahanui bonjour, clrh 13:45 clrh hello 13:45 benjix 14:44 benjix I need help 14:44 benjix can any one help out 14:44 benjix I install koha on opensuse11.4 14:45 benjix it was working but an update has changed everything 13:42 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5668' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8070cef696c10aa67e10d321046b66d790aefeae> / Bug 5668 Error during during insall with web installer, Step 3 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b42d662542e7cd3186f7f6f9da4c1ea031635917> 13:36 kyleh paul_p, excellent! 13:36 paul_p kyleh push fixed 2mn ago 13:35 magnuse paul_p is pushing a fix for it now 13:35 huginn` 04Bug 5668: enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Star ratings in the opac 13:35 magnuse kyleh: have a look at the comments here: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668#c87 13:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #712 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:34 kyleh the issue is the ratings table in kohastructure.pl, but I'm not sure what the problem is. 13:31 samuel slef: that's what i do , instead of using cpan 13:29 paul_p ) 13:29 paul_p (i'm about to push the follow-up for 5668 13:25 huginn` 04Bug 5668: blocker, P3, ---, mtj, Passed QA , Star ratings in the opac 13:25 magnuse kyleh: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668#c87 13:23 slef kyleh: search the mysql tree for that near string, probably kohastructure.sql 13:22 slef samuel: you probably wantto install packages not use cpan 13:22 kyleh tried a fresh install from master and got this: ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 2821: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '- biblionumber int(11) NOT NULL, - rating_value tinyint(1) NOT NULL, - ' at line 2 13:20 mveron Bye #koha 13:20 * mveron Has to give driving lessons to his daughter 13:09 kyleh nope, changed to datetime to date, no difference. 13:06 kyleh can the $KohaDates filter handle datetimes? Could that be the problem with the suspend reserves error? 13:02 samuel slef: i make on cpan "look Log::LogLite", it 's ok but the problem begin when i do "make test" 12:59 magnuse mveron++ 12:59 mveron Hope I did it the right way :-) 12:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories 12:58 mveron After learning to create patches from KF I just commited my first enhancenment patch: Bug 7621 [ENH]- Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories 12:57 mveron Hi #koha 12:42 slef 12:42 slef package found: liblog-loglite-perl - Perl module that facilitates lightweight logging 12:41 slef package found: libio-lockedfile-perl - IO::LockedFile Class - supply object methods for locking files 12:41 * oleonard passes the conversation to paul_p 12:40 samuel this is the link of the tool which would be useful for us http://git.biblibre.com/?p=sudoc.git;a=summary 12:38 oleonard I don't find any reference to "LogLite" in Koha code 12:35 samuel make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/lib" "-Iblib/arch" test.pl 1..6 Can't locate IO/LockedFile.pm in @INC (@INC contains: blib/lib blib/arch /usr/share/perl/5.10 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at blib/lib/Log/Log 12:35 samuel yes and i've now another problem with the module "Log:: LogLite" when i want to make the install 12:31 oleonard samuel: That's an error you're getting from Koha? 12:30 kf I think i have an idea what it does :) 12:30 kf it's ok, I work for bsz - we also have pica as software for our union catalog 12:29 samuel a bit long to explain. 12:28 kf not sure then 12:28 kf ah, right 12:27 samuel it is for french universities 12:26 magnuse samuel: my guess: Log::LogLite 12:26 kf samuel: not sure what the sudoc loader is? 12:26 kf hi oleonard 12:25 samuel i've the following error "Can't locate Log/Log Lite.pm in @INC" with sudoc loader: i think it's a problem with a missing perl module but which? 12:24 paul_p good morning oleonard 12:24 wahanui yeah, yeah, hello, hello. Now fix some bugs for me, please. 12:24 slef hi all? 12:23 oleonard Hi all 12:21 slef it accepted PNG 12:21 slef no matter - converted 12:12 magnuse that would do it 12:12 kf probably only missing in a list of allowed formats? 12:12 magnuse no idea! 12:12 slef magnuse: it was svg. Can that even contain executable code? 12:07 magnuse slef: exe ftw! 11:58 * slef converts it 11:58 slef :-/ 11:58 slef "Sorry, this file type is not permitted for security reasons" 11:34 magnuse fredericd++ 11:33 slef if anyone has time to turn that email into a post on koha-community.org before I do, that would be great 11:33 magnuse huh? yay! 11:32 kf fredericd++ magnuse++ 11:32 slef thanks fredericd and magnuse ! 11:31 slef announcement emailed 11:14 * slef drafts an announcement about sponsorship 11:00 drojf no idea if i will be allowed to come to kohacon, the person in charge is gone until next week. but i still have some hope 11:00 kf ;) 10:59 drojf heh 10:59 slef we have had one abstract that looked like it could be the entire talk so far! 10:59 slef drojf: kf, Brooke or rangi might have tips. 10:59 drojf :) 10:59 slef drojf: as long as it needs to be to get passed by a reviewer 10:59 drojf ok thanks 10:59 slef drojf: a reasonable paragraph, probably 100 words or less I think. 10:57 drojf slef: how long is the abstract for a kohacon paper supposed to be? 10:54 drojf good day #koha 09:51 slef hi all 09:51 kf hi slef :) 09:46 wahanui i think faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 09:46 slef wahanui: faq? 08:23 kf :) 08:20 magnuse i don't know nynorsk wel enough to do anything about it anyway... 08:19 magnuse yeah, that works really well 08:19 kf not thinking about it :) 08:09 magnuse or ok'ing? 08:06 magnuse not thinking about it? 08:06 kf does it work? 08:06 magnuse i try not to think about nynorsk at all 08:06 kf ouch 08:06 magnuse kf: yup 08:06 kf ? 08:06 magnuse but *a lot* of it is fuzzy strings that can just be ok'd :-) 08:06 kf is that bokmal only= 08:05 magnuse or loose... 08:04 kf magnuse: ok, you win :) 08:04 rangi heh 08:04 magnuse 34383 words need attention *2x sigh* 08:03 kf 12933 words need attention *sigh* 08:00 rangi to make sure it worked, before i brnached, tagged, and signed it etc 07:59 rangi then install it in a vm 07:59 rangi what i did was make the tarball 07:58 paul_p tagging & branching, I was aware. I discover (and carefully write) the make manifest tardist & git archive ! 07:58 rangi and branch too 07:57 rangi with git tag annotate 07:57 rangi you also want to tag it in git 07:56 rangi gpg --clearsign koha-3.8.0.tar.gz.MD5 07:55 rangi md5sum koha-3.8.0.tar.gz > koha-3.8.0.tar.gz.MD5 07:53 rangi gpg -sb koha-3.8.0.tar.gz 07:53 rangi git archive --format=tar --prefix=koha-3.8.0/ master | gzip > koha-3.8.0.tar.gz 07:51 rangi but with git you can do 07:51 paul_p rangi about the release notes, I agree it's a big deal. I've started already, and will submit something before the release, for proof reading and/or comments 07:50 rangi then you end up with a tar.gz 07:50 rangi make manifest tardist 07:49 rangi make 07:49 rangi perl Makefile.PL 07:46 rangi to roll the release i did 07:45 rangi the hard bit is writing the release notes 07:43 paul_p (+ you wanted to speak of something yesterday) 07:43 paul_p so, my question was to know how you did the releases 07:42 paul_p rangi wonderful ! 07:42 rangi paul_p: i am now 07:41 kf hi esofiane 07:41 esofiane Hi everybody 07:39 kf :D 07:38 samuel :-) 07:38 asaurat ok, these are my two favorite words in German :D 07:37 kf asaurat: Wildschwein? :) 07:37 samuel yeah, sounds good 07:37 kf "item stays where it was returned" 07:37 kf I opted for describing it 07:37 kf samuel: German - it's ok 07:36 asaurat kf: Freizugigkeitsbescheinigung 07:35 samuel kf: in which language do you want to translate "item floats"? 07:33 * kf wonders how to translate 'item floats' 07:32 magnuse bonjour paul_p 07:32 kf hi magnuse, samuel and paul_p :) 07:31 paul_p hello kf & magnuse & samuel 07:31 magnuse hiya samuel 07:31 samuel good morning kf & magnuse 07:29 magnuse guten morgen kf 07:29 kf good morning #koha 07:18 gaetan_B hello #koha :) 07:07 asaurat hi 07:05 julian_m hello 06:58 paul_p rangi = are you about ? ( and available for a few dozen of min to speak of Release process ? ) 06:58 paul_p good morning #koha 06:52 samuel hi everybody! 06:42 reiveune hello 06:38 vinod1 for two or more items i have only one record and the call number is common how i can i add call number to each item 06:37 vinod1 the record is only one 06:36 vinod1 please tell me how can i add the call number in above items 06:36 vinod1 =082 \\$a621.3$bKNO 06:36 vinod1 =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p663$yBK 06:36 vinod1 =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p1000$yBK 06:34 cait no 06:31 vinod1 is there any way so that 952$o field should automatically pick data from 082 at the time of importing? 06:29 magnuse thanks cait 06:29 cait welcome back magnuse :) 06:28 vinod1 is there any way so that 952$o field should automatically pick data from 082 at the time of importing? 06:28 magnuse kia ora #koha! 06:27 vinod1 082$a 500$bKNM 06:27 vinod1 means something like 952 $o500 KNM 06:26 cait bye mtj 06:26 mtj ciao #koha 06:26 mtj ok, gotta scoot now.... 06:25 mtj s/for/your/ 06:25 cait vinod1: you have to combine both fields into one 952$b 06:25 mtj a perl script to manipulate for bib records... before import into Koha 06:24 mtj vinod1: i have never used marcedit... so i would use a perl script - for that 06:23 mtj i always forget that... :/ 06:23 huginn` mtj: unknown field/subfield combination (952/o) 06:23 mtj @marc 952 o 06:23 vinod1 952$o is a full call number field so how can i use 082$a and $b in single 952$o 06:23 mtj aaah, it wants a space ' ' 06:22 huginn` mtj: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] 06:22 mtj @marc 245 06:22 mtj hmm, i'm not having much luck with the MARC plugin :) 06:21 huginn` mtj: unknown tag 245$a 06:21 mtj @marc 245$a 06:21 huginn` mtj: unknown tag 245a 06:21 mtj @marc 245a 06:21 huginn` mtj: unknown tag 952$o 06:21 mtj @marc 952$o 06:20 francharb 0/ mtj 06:20 vinod1 in 952 only one field is there how can i add two fields as in 082 06:20 huginn` mtj: unknown tag 952o 06:20 mtj @marc 952o 06:20 mtj vinod1: 952$o 06:19 vinod1 i have data in 082 $a and $b field please let me know in which format tags showl i add call number in 952 06:18 mtj vinod1: yes, add callnumbe r-info to 952$o subfield... before import into Koha 06:17 cait vinod1: yes 06:17 cait hi alex_a 06:17 alex_a bonjour #koha 06:17 mtj elephanta island... was a great day! 06:15 wahanui mtj: excuse me? 06:15 mtj wahanui: dude, i know... i was sitting next to him :) 06:15 vinod1 before importing the data 06:15 vinod1 so do i need to add call number in 952 field also 06:15 mtj ok, off for a bit... 06:14 wahanui francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke. 06:14 mtj heya francharb 06:14 mtj vinod1: use marcedit, or (my favourite) a perl script 06:12 vinod1 hello anybody help please 06:09 vinod1 after importing bulk data, opac does not shows full call number in table form but it shows in marc format 06:07 francharb good morning 06:05 vinod1 please let me know how to add full call number in 952 $o field at the tie of bulk importing\ 06:02 cait or if you are good with sql you can also populate items.itemcallnumber and run a full reindex 06:02 cait and then import them again 06:02 cait vinod: put the callnumber in 952$o as rangi suggested 05:59 mtj cait++ too 05:59 vinod ok than what to do so that imported items can be viewed directly 05:58 cait mtj++ 05:58 cait thx mtj :) 05:58 cait vinod: when you edit an item, koha will check for 082 to present you with a suggestion for your callnumber, this is controlled by the itemcallnumber system preference - but it's only because you opened the item for editing. 05:57 cait you have to have the infrmation in the right fields already 05:57 cait when you import data 05:57 cait and add new items 05:57 cait vinod: it only does that automatically when you use the cataloguing module 05:56 vinod please tell me what to do 05:55 rangi Ok my bus stop bbl 05:55 vinod when i tried to manually edit the item record, it was already call number was already there and after saving that shows the call number in opac also 05:55 mtj cait: done :) 05:54 rangi Koha doesn't 05:54 wahanui i guess does is calculate the discount on this price or the tax is removed before to calculte the discount on the price before taxes? 05:54 rangi What does? 05:54 vinod during import i had given 082 field but it automatically takes in 952 $o also 05:54 rangi It won't automatically add it 05:53 wahanui cait: I forgot yes it 05:53 cait wahanui forget yes it 05:53 rangi You added it to 952? 05:52 cait vinod: Koha does not show call numbers in the record, only in the items 05:52 wahanui okay, vinod. 05:52 vinod yes it is also automatically added 05:52 cait evening rangi 05:52 rangi I think someone answered your email 05:52 cait right $o :) 05:52 rangi Needs to be on 952$o 05:52 cait you have to add the callnumbers to your items in 952 05:51 cait 082$b is not shown 05:51 vinod 082 $a and $b yes everything 05:51 cait and did you import items? 05:51 cait where did you store the call number? 05:51 vinod but call number shows in marc format and other detail views 05:50 vinod i am facing problem in import all data is imported successfully but call number does not shows 05:49 cait guten morgen mveron :) 05:49 vinod hello all koha users 05:48 mveron Good morning #koha 05:41 mtj yes, will do now 05:40 cait mtj: I did another sign off - want to add yours to the patch too? 05:40 mtj ah, yep - thanx for updating the bug :) 05:39 cait was about the patch from marc 05:39 cait ah :) 05:38 mtj cait: here now... 05:16 cait mtj: still around? 05:13 Oak hello miss cait :) 05:13 cait hi Oak :) 05:04 cait hi #koha 04:04 Oak kia ora #koha