Time  Nick             Message
23:52 cjh              heh
23:51 rangi            thats what happens :)
23:51 rangi            git.exc.GitCommandError: 'git push origin master' returned exit status 128: fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
23:51 cjh              sync is both ways though, so it may pull down changes from another remote with a branch of the same name and start merging them.
23:50 rangi            yeah would be for me :)
23:50 cjh              heh
23:50 eythian          actually, given I don't have the rights to push to the kc remote, it probably wouldn't be too dangerous.
23:49 eythian          hmm, that would seem reasonable, yeah.
23:49 cjh              that should only apply for new branches though, every branch that is local and already remote has a remote assosiated with it, doesnt it?
23:49 eythian          `git remote` probably
23:48 cjh              I wonder how it 'finds' remotes
23:48 eythian          hmm, that would be an issue for me too
23:48 rangi            yeah you would have to be careful
23:47 cjh              although "All remote operations are carried out by the first remote found." could cause problems
23:45 rangi            :)
23:45 cjh              the 'stashes and restores unstaged changes' on branch switching is reason enough for me.
23:44 cjh              wow that looks really good
23:43 eythian          it does
23:42 rangi            that does look nice
23:42 rangi            too legit to quit
23:41 eythian          http://git-legit.org/
23:14 eythian          should get on to that.
23:14 eythian          oh yeah, I've got to learn french before I go there too.
22:59 talljoy          much better
22:56 talljoy          :-)
22:56 rangi            translate.google.com does a good job
22:55 * talljoy        knew she shoulda studied french
22:44 rangi            (do a search for koha)
22:43 rangi            http://www.actionti.com/accueil/octas/octas-2012/finalistes2012
22:43 rangi            ohh this is cool
22:31 jcamins          Hello. :)
22:31 eythian          hello jcamins
22:31 * eythian        gives up
22:31 eythian          or not
22:31 eythian          hello
22:31 eythian          I think it might be:
22:31 jcamins          Hi eythian
22:31 jcamins          Hey.
22:31 jcamins          Hey
22:30 jcamins          Hi.
22:30 eythian          heh
22:30 wahanui          eythian: no idea
22:30 eythian          wahanui: aren't you supposed to reply to that?
22:30 eythian          hi
21:50 talljoy          heh
21:50 wizzyrea         FOREVER
21:50 rangi            don't do that :)
21:50 rangi            :)
21:50 rangi            1000d
21:49 rangi            1d works too
21:49 rangi            yes its seconds
21:47 talljoy          and I'm not impatient.  lulz
21:47 talljoy          so the timeout is seconds not milliseconds.
21:47 jcamins          That's the one I was thinking of.
21:46 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , language on timeout system preference is wrong
21:46 talljoy          i'm reading bug 6701 and getting confused
21:46 jcamins          There was just a bug reported about that.
21:46 jcamins          talljoy: I believe the label is wrong.
21:43 talljoy          i'm going to rephrase my question to see if i asked it wrong.....  Does the timeout feature (SYS PREF) work in koha?
21:43 talljoy          :-/
21:43 talljoy          yes.  i've had enough beatings for the day.
21:42 rangi            (hurting feelings in general)
21:42 rangi            as im writing an email on how to avoid that
21:42 rangi            that would be ironic
21:42 rangi            lol
21:42 talljoy          oh.  almost had my feelings hurt
21:42 rangi            (need that for a quote)
21:41 wahanui          rumour has it rule 1 is "Don't Be A Dick!"
21:41 rangi            rule 1?
21:36 talljoy          does the session time out affect the self checkout module?
21:14 wizzyrea         yw :)
21:11 schuster         by all whew what a day thanks for your help wizzyrea
21:09 cait             night all!
20:52 rangi            http://soundcloud.com/virginmagneticmaterial/led-zeppelin-ramble-on-virgin
20:52 wizzyrea         i mean, I follow that you'd need to know about fines bugs *and* the pcres stuff.
20:51 edveal           wizzyrea I don't get your last statement?
20:51 wizzyrea         i get ya ;)
20:50 wizzyrea         no use is handled by envisionware in this application
20:50 edveal           wizzyrea and cait: Yes it is a PCRes issue but I need to know about the fine bug as well.
20:50 cait             ok
20:49 wizzyrea         different thing :)
20:49 wizzyrea         yea, but this is pc reservation
20:49 wizzyrea         edveal: http://screencast.com/t/yRm9nsmA
20:49 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7560 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , SIP Self Checkout Ignoring Fines Thresholds for Not Being able to Check Out Books
20:48 cait             bug 7560
20:48 edveal           cait any idea of the bug number?
20:48 edveal           Oh fun...
20:48 mveron           Good night, #koha
20:46 cait             edveal: i think there as abug about fines and sip
20:46 jcamins          Not migrating from VTLS, but actually using the system.
20:45 jcamins          Does anyone have experience with VTLS?
20:44 edveal           Right... I get!
20:44 wizzyrea         everything to do with pcres
20:44 wizzyrea         nothing to do with sip
20:44 wizzyrea         you have to tell envisionware to filter based on that criteria
20:44 edveal           It is just looking for if they are a user or not.
20:44 wizzyrea         ...somewhere
20:44 wizzyrea         one sec... I have it
20:44 wizzyrea         you have to set up a special rule
20:44 wizzyrea         right
20:43 edveal           Yes, and that is the issue.
20:43 wizzyrea         or whatever they refer to it as
20:43 wizzyrea         pcres
20:43 wizzyrea         is this for envisionware?
20:43 edveal           I think so too.
20:43 wizzyrea         I believe so yes
20:43 edveal           If a patron is restricted from checking out  at $X.XX  will Koha send the restriction via SIP to the self check?
20:42 gmcharlt         I bring you all word from Koha 2020!
20:42 chris_n          that and hitting 'reply-to-all' by accident are real nightmares
20:42 gmcharlt         heh
20:41 SJeffery         chris_n: Now you have given away my root password!
20:41 chris_n          at least it wasn't supersecretpassword ;)
20:40 wizzyrea         edveal - go ahead and ask
20:40 jcamins          gmcharlt: I always knew you were ahead of your time!
20:40 gmcharlt         oops, wrong channel
20:40 edveal           Anyone know much about SIP?
20:40 gmcharlt         ticket 18827 - that sounds like an issue you've been discussing with development
20:40 jcamins          cait: yeah, at least one in Norway.
20:39 cait             and I think 1 in norway
20:39 schuster         University of North Texas is as well -
20:39 SJeffery         I will prod my local library school a bit on the subject. I keep wanting to teach a class or session there.
20:39 wizzyrea         oh boy, that's cool chris_n
20:38 cait             2 I know of
20:38 jcamins          Oooh. :)
20:38 cait             some in germany too :)
20:38 jcamins          SJeffery: Rutgers (per the press release from ByWater), Palmer, Mizzou, and another one which I can't quite remember the name of which I think is located somewhere on the West Coast.
20:38 chris_n          wizzyrea: that table is done w/datatables and will have jeditable added to allow adding/editing quotes directly in the table
20:37 SJeffery         Which ones are those?
20:36 jcamins          So how many library schools are using Koha for instruction now? Four?
20:36 wizzyrea         nice!
20:36 wizzyrea         hehe!
20:35 jcamins          bywater++
20:35 huginn`          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5668] Star ratings in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668>
20:35 chris_n          http://www.screencast.com/t/uUz1hrk66
20:35 chris_n          here's a couple of screenshots of the QOD feature I'm porting to master
20:31 wahanui          i guess jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
20:31 wizzyrea         jquery library?
20:31 wizzyrea         jquery library/
20:31 wizzyrea         maybe we should add that one to the jquery library
20:31 wizzyrea         seems a good plan :)
20:30 schuster         I only stumbled on it as my "conversion" didn't like what I had and the link wasn't showing up...  So I was checking documentation!
20:28 wizzyrea         in theory you can submit patches for the documentation. working with the docbook is no fun task though.
20:27 wizzyrea         http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/selfcheckout.html
20:27 wizzyrea         but it's wrong in 3.6 too so
20:26 wizzyrea         well the docs you're looking at are for 3.2
20:26 wizzyrea         not sure if it changed or if it was wrong all along.
20:25 schuster         Can you change the documentation for that?
20:25 schuster         it's those little things...
20:25 wizzyrea         yw
20:25 schuster         Thank you oh wizzyrea wizzardess of jq!
20:25 cait             wizzyrea++ :)
20:23 wizzyrea         with your URL of course.
20:23 pastebot         "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "for schuster" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/343
20:23 wizzyrea         is what you need
20:23 wizzyrea         });
20:23 wizzyrea         $("#login .submit").parent().after("<p><a href=\"http://YOUR_KOHA_OPAC_URL/cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl\" target=\"_blank\">Self-Checkout</a></p>");
20:23 wizzyrea         $(document).ready(function(){
20:23 wizzyrea         schuster: there's a typo
20:20 schuster         nothing...  that's it.
20:17 wizzyrea         wb :)
20:17 rangi            back
20:17 wizzyrea         schuster: what else do you have in your intranetuserjs
20:16 schuster         http://manual.koha-community.org/3.2/en/selfcheckout.html  top of this documentation page
20:15 cait             what does the js look like?
20:14 schuster         11 - self checkout documentation has the JS there and I have used that with my 3.2 system, but with the 3.7 it doesn't want to show up.
20:14 oleonard         Bye #koha
20:13 schuster         ok I'm back to the self checkout link again.  I can't get it to show on my new Koha instance as described in the documentation with the intranetuserjs
20:12 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
20:12 * oleonard       is making good progress on a patch for Bug 7500 for the OPAC
20:01 * wizzyrea       wonders if you can have a permalink in wordpress that youc an attach to a specific post at a certain time, without recycling the post
20:01 jcamins          That'd be really nice!
20:01 rangi            My stop
20:00 wizzyrea         oooo
20:00 rangi            Ie link the release notes into about and make them clickable
20:00 jcamins          That'd be super-nice.
19:59 rangi            So I can go look
19:59 rangi            Just the sysptefs
19:59 rangi            I want a list of what changed in the last update
19:58 * jcamins        thinks that an early feature in 3.10 should be the addition of a "Search sysprefs" tab on the main screen.
19:57 jcamins          True.
19:57 rangi            But sane defaults is good
19:57 rangi            Yep
19:56 jcamins          I'm pretty sure.
19:55 wizzyrea         I thought you could change both too
19:55 jcamins          You can change both, I think.
19:55 pastebot         "mveron" at 178.83.45.195 pasted "For cait regarding git diff" (26 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/342
19:55 wizzyrea         the catalog uses a special one
19:55 wizzyrea         oh right. Yea, that's what I did on NExpress
19:55 cait             have not used it so far
19:55 cait             with system preference... not sure
19:55 cait             for opac
19:55 cait             I think you can change it
19:55 wizzyrea         can't you set one already?
19:54 cait             think it#s a good idea
19:54 cait             yep
19:54 rangi            Hmm I like the diff favicon for staff client
19:48 wizzyrea         it's chilly here today, more april-like
19:48 huginn`          bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 16.9°C (12:46 PM PDT on April 12, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
19:48 bag              @wunder 93109
19:46 rangi            Full bus today
19:40 * chris_n        wins ;-)
19:40 huginn`          chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 18.3°C (3:35 PM EDT on April 12, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 13%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
19:40 chris_n          @wunder 28334
19:38 huginn`          cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.1°C (9:35 PM CEST on April 12, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising).
19:38 cait             @wunder Konstanz
19:38 huginn`          rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on April 13, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
19:38 rangi            @wunder nzwn
19:38 huginn`          wizzyrea: The current temperature in Near Free State High, Lawrence, Kansas is 11.0°C (2:37 PM CDT on April 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
19:38 wizzyrea         @wunder 66049
19:38 chris_n          look interesting
19:37 rangi            Brrrr
19:28 wizzyrea         huh, interesting. http://mosh.mit.edu/
19:24 cait             :)
19:24 * wizzyrea       giggles
19:24 * cait           adds a tickle
19:19 cait             unmuted liz :)
19:19 cait             yay
19:19 wizzyrea         something like that :)
19:19 cait             (that right?)
19:19 cait             pinch, poke, owe me a coke!
19:18 * wizzyrea       gives cait a virtual coke
19:18 * wizzyrea       writes on a piece of paper "pinch, poke, owe me a coke?"
19:18 cait             I am helping! stop running away!
19:17 * cait           hunts wizzyrea
19:16 * wizzyrea       runs
19:16 wizzyrea         !
19:16 rangi            Tickle her
19:15 * wizzyrea       snickers
19:15 cait             I have to unmute liz
19:15 cait             rangi: help me?
19:08 rangi            Hire a student to pull reserves :)
19:08 * wizzyrea       *mutely
19:08 * wizzyrea       looks around
19:08 cait             and now I forgot how to undo it again...
19:08 cait             jinx
19:08 cait             jinkx
19:08 wizzyrea         hehe
19:08 cait             they have to serve the users - I get it :)
19:08 wizzyrea         they have to serve the users.
19:07 rangi            Not arguing just saying if libs want to exist
19:07 wizzyrea         of course :)
19:07 wizzyrea         why not do it for people who use the website?
19:07 cait             wizzyrea: they do for checked out materials of course
19:07 wizzyrea         and if they do it if the person *calls*
19:07 wizzyrea         to pull a book and have it waiting for a person
19:07 rangi            *nod*
19:07 cait             are you going to argue with me? not a good way to start your day? :)
19:07 wizzyrea         I think it's a good service
19:07 wizzyrea         ^^ it's a service, you either choose to provide or you don't
19:07 rangi            Libraries exist to serve users
19:07 cait             there is not tradition for that here - it's not that they stopped doing it
19:06 rangi            That's my theory
19:06 rangi            Yep and ull keep having less staff
19:06 cait             different :)
19:06 cait             yep :)
19:06 wizzyrea         just different :)
19:06 cait             rangi: not enough staff
19:05 wizzyrea         no problem
19:05 wizzyrea         it's a customer service thing here
19:05 rangi            I'm failing to see the problem
19:05 wizzyrea         interesting.
19:04 cait             they would just start putting everything on the shelf, if someone would fetch it for them
19:04 cait             in academic libraries
19:04 cait             wizzyrea: not paying for holds here
19:04 cait             wizzyrea: exactly
19:03 wizzyrea         or call to make a librarian do it
19:03 wizzyrea         you make people actually come in to get it off the shelf eh?
19:03 wizzyrea         oyyy
19:03 cait             wizzyrea: libraries here are almost never allowing on shelf holds
19:02 cait             wizzyrea: welcome to my world :)
19:00 wizzyrea         (my test catalog)
19:00 wizzyrea         half of the stuff in the catalog I couldn't put on hold because of allowonshelfholds
19:00 cait             eek
19:00 cait             with an ant in it?
19:00 oleonard         My madness is having to say it "independANT!" in my head
19:00 cait             hm?
19:00 wizzyrea         ohthankgod. jeez.
18:59 wizzyrea         but that I'm pretyt sure is my own madness.
18:59 wizzyrea         that and my feeling that independant branches (aside, that drives me NUTS that it's the french spelling) keeps mysteriously popping on.
18:59 wizzyrea         I do blow up my test db fairly often. That muts be it
18:58 oleonard         I assumed I just hadn't worked with a fresh installation in so long I forgot the default
18:58 wizzyrea         did we change the default?
18:58 oleonard         ^ me, two days ago
18:58 * wizzyrea       mutters more
18:57 wizzyrea         no wonder nothing could be placed on hold >.<
18:57 wizzyrea         stupid allowonshelfholds /me mutters a lot about not having it set to allow
18:55 cait             you already fixed it :)
18:55 kyleh            if I remove the $KohaDates filter, the error goes away.
18:55 cait             was wondering - I could help you to make a patch for it if you want
18:55 cait             ah :)
18:55 mveron           cait: yes, just filed the bug
18:55 cait             mveron: still around?
18:54 wizzyrea         thanks :)
18:54 wizzyrea         :) yay!
18:54 kyleh            I can produce that error now, I'll look into it.
18:51 nengard          you all rock!!
18:50 nengard          WOO HOO
18:49 wizzyrea         oh, never mind. it only appears once you have a rule to clone.
18:48 wizzyrea         did we lose "clone rules to another library"
18:46 wizzyrea         I haven't checked that.
18:46 wizzyrea         possibly, if you suspend the hold from the patron screen?
18:45 cait             wizzyrea++
18:45 wizzyrea         if you do suspend all holds, it does it
18:44 wizzyrea         suspend all
18:44 wizzyrea         AHA
18:39 wizzyrea         you'd think it'd break more spectacularly than that if she were missing that
18:39 wizzyrea         is
18:39 wizzyrea         date-format-parse or whatever it
18:39 wizzyrea         could she be missing a dependency?
18:38 oleonard         wizzyrea: I'm confused, because it doesn't look like it ever tells you when the suspension expires after you do it
18:38 cait             some missing condition
18:38 wizzyrea         moremember or circ/
18:38 oleonard         On the other hand, after placing a hold for someone and suspending it I /can/ still access their account
18:38 wizzyrea         or in the holds tab
18:38 wizzyrea         i bet it is dates - how does it show suspended reserves on circ.pl?
18:37 wizzyrea         oooo
18:36 cait             not_going_crazy++
18:36 cait             I knew I had seen it somewhere!
18:36 huginn`          04Bug 7641: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add ability to suspend reserves.
18:36 oleonard         Isn't this it nengard? http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7641#c17
18:36 cait             aha!
18:36 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add ability to suspend reserves.
18:36 oleonard         Oh interesting... nengard's patron error was mentioned in Bug 7641
18:36 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Star ratings in the opac
18:36 cait             bug 5668
18:35 cait             or you could attach it as a follow up to the star ratings feature
18:35 cait             mveron: I think we need a bug
18:35 mveron           cait: Shoud the install script thing go to a bug report or is it "im Griff"?
18:21 janPasi          yeah... that's not really what i had in mind, but fair enough :D
18:21 mveron           janPasi: Age? Hmm... I'm 57...
18:21 janPasi          *always = almost
18:20 janPasi          My is the name of the mysql dev's daughter, though :D
18:20 janPasi          mveron: i'm always afraid to ask what that 21 would stand for... >;D
18:19 * mveron         Happy enough that my first name is no Mysql...
18:19 mveron           :-)
18:18 cait             mveron: but you are not all capitals :)
18:18 cait             lol
18:18 * mveron         My first nam is Marc...
18:17 * chris_n        thought MARC and nightmare were synonyms....
18:14 cait             I think you can keep them on the same line then
18:14 cait             try -- instead of --- (2 instead of 3)
18:14 mveron           cait: I inserted "DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `pending_offline_operations`;" then the script worked
18:14 mveron           cait: Then the script complained over an existing table pending_offline_operations
18:14 mveron           cait: I moved the comments to a new line.
18:10 wizzyrea         i kno rite
18:10 cait             that sounds nightmarish
18:10 wizzyrea         gl, later
18:09 wizzyrea         "I tried to troubleshoot zebra whilst feverish and all I got were MARC fields attacking me in my fever-dreams"
18:09 janPasi          anyway, thanks and see you :)
18:08 janPasi          maybe that should be tried with non-production system, though :D
18:08 wizzyrea         hehe that's what I was thinking.
18:08 janPasi          could be quite a trippy experience :D
18:08 wizzyrea         it makes the crazy parts of zebra just *that much more crazy*
18:07 janPasi          wizzyrea: that sounds like a majorly bad idea to begin with :D
18:07 wizzyrea         :)
18:07 wizzyrea         feel better soon.
18:07 wizzyrea         oh yes, do not try and troubleshoot zebra whilst feverish
18:07 janPasi          cait: thanks :)
18:07 cait             get better soon
18:07 janPasi          i have fever
18:06 janPasi          right now i'll just make myself some tea ang get some sleep
18:05 janPasi          i'll look into that next week
18:05 janPasi          ok...
18:04 wizzyrea         if it's done = 1 and it's not indexed right, then you might also have a bug.
18:04 wizzyrea         if it's not existent, you probably have a bug
18:04 wizzyrea         and if it's done = 0 that means it wasn't touched
18:04 wizzyrea         for reindexing
18:04 wizzyrea         or you could find the biblionumber and see if it even made it into the zebraqueue
18:03 janPasi          nobodys life really depends on this
18:03 janPasi          i think i'll just setup -r to run nightly and tell the users that deleted records will dissappear by the morning ;D
18:02 wizzyrea         you could look in the zebraqueue table for done = 0, janpasi
18:02 chris_n          wizzyrea: the possibilities are endless
18:02 janPasi          but i'm pretty sure it was to do with deleted records
18:02 janPasi          then at least i'll be able to give an exact description on what exactly is wrong with -z
18:02 wizzyrea         omg, a new edit items screen with this + editable
18:02 chris_n          I'd much rather be revived with coffee than cold water ;-)
18:01 * chris_n        cranks up the coffee pot
18:01 chris_n          if need be
18:01 * wizzyrea       faints
18:01 chris_n          furthermore, throw jEditable in the mix and you can edit rows/fields right in the table
18:01 janPasi          well i changed the -r to -z, let's see who will be the first impatient librarian ;D
18:01 wizzyrea         yes, omg. yes.
18:00 wizzyrea         in the intranet
18:00 chris_n          wizzyrea: and it does away with pesky pagination buttons
18:00 wizzyrea         would LOVE to see that on the items
18:00 huginn`          chris_n: The operation succeeded.  Quote #201 added.
18:00 chris_n          @quote add <wizzyrea> never underestimate the power of an impatient librarian
18:00 wizzyrea         chris_n: that is purty
18:00 janPasi          amen :D
18:00 janPasi          :D
18:00 wizzyrea         never underestimate the power of an impatient librarian.
17:59 janPasi          possible, of course, but unlikely
17:59 janPasi          nope, unlikely
17:59 wizzyrea         users clicking onto something else too fast
17:59 janPasi          *not
17:59 janPasi          no on this server it isn't :D
17:59 wizzyrea         server load maybe
17:59 chris_n          I love the rounded corners
17:59 wizzyrea         i've never been able to pin down why
17:59 janPasi          now that i think about it
17:59 wizzyrea         janPasi: occasionally that just happens
17:58 janPasi          it might have also been that -z didn't properly remove the removed records from the search results
17:58 chris_n          this  is slick: http://datatables.net/release-datatables/examples/api/tabs_and_scrolling.html
17:56 cait             dunno
17:55 janPasi          as long as zebra is able to read the indexes
17:55 janPasi          does it really matter which user the cron runs as
17:54 janPasi          cait: i've come to expect just about anything when working with library systems :D
17:54 cait             I only loaded the one table to check - perhaps you could supply a patch? I will sign off :)
17:54 janPasi          cait: god knows :D
17:54 wizzyrea         or somesuch
17:54 wizzyrea         like perhaps your cron is running as the wrong user
17:54 mveron           cait: YI suppose the same, I'm about to change the file and test
17:54 cait             janPasi: I think -z is what eveyone uses - so items not showing up should have a nother reason
17:53 janPasi          i guess i could try -z and wait for complaints from the users ;D
17:53 cait             mveron: and the --- - when I change it's to it is and take out one - it works for me
17:53 janPasi          so what use do i have for reindexing that doesn't really reindex
17:52 janPasi          *some :D
17:52 janPasi          dome items that were added didn't appear in the search results or something like that
17:52 wizzyrea         before the reboot or after
17:52 janPasi          yeah, but -z didn't do it's job properly
17:52 cait             mveron: I think it's the 'it's' in the comments
17:51 cait             thx wizzyrea :)
17:51 wizzyrea         you want a full reindex to use r
17:51 cait             what she says :)
17:51 wizzyrea         you want your cron to use z
17:51 cait             no without -r
17:51 wizzyrea         you don't use r and z at the same time
17:51 janPasi          *simultaneously
17:51 janPasi          i though they couldn't be used simultaneouslu
17:50 janPasi          so that's both -r and -z?
17:50 janPasi          ok, i'll try that
17:50 cait             and you can set it to a shorter time
17:50 cait             will be much faster
17:50 cait             to tell it which records have been touched
17:50 cait             using the zebraqueue table in your database
17:49 cait             not existing, changed
17:49 janPasi          yeah, it takes a while
17:49 cait             um
17:49 cait             -z will only update existing
17:49 janPasi          umm... no, should i?
17:49 cait             -b -a -r will do a full reindex every 10 minutes
17:49 cait             hopefully you have a -z too?
17:49 cait             janPasi: oh
17:49 cait             I was about to load the tables into a database
17:49 janPasi          because -z doesn't seem to work properly either
17:49 cait             mveron: I think that's likely
17:49 janPasi          -r that is
17:49 mveron           cait: But I think there is really a syntax error on line t line 2821, I will test a fix.
17:49 janPasi          with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a r every 10 minutes
17:48 cait             hm ok so fresh
17:48 mveron           cait: I had to uninstall mysql +clear the data folder to get rid of the InnoDB errors. Ten I created a new db wit same name and settings as before, then I run th web installer.
17:48 cait             how do you reindex?
17:48 cait             hm it should work
17:48 janPasi          so what, i'll build a cronscript that restarts zebra every two weeks? :D
17:45 cait             you did a fresh install? or updating an older database?
17:45 cait             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql;h=71eaeb037ab5ab276f073f9f6458d8c91c38dd60;hb=b5ac4a852f9b536649f9c40d0b7cdb02ce5e9773
17:45 cait             can't spot it
17:45 cait             mveron: hmm
17:44 wizzyrea         zebra is a problem.
17:43 janPasi          it's like running windows...
17:43 mveron           and: I tested a patch that went in an endless loop blowing up the log files (It was not my patch...). Then InnoDB was stuck.
17:43 cait             janPasi: not sure why, I still suspect zebrasrv
17:43 janPasi          wtf XD
17:43 janPasi          server reboot and it works?!
17:43 cait             perhaps something wrong slipped in
17:42 cait             it's a new feature
17:42 cait             so let's check syntax for the ratings table :)
17:42 cait             ok
17:42 mveron           cait: yes, master
17:42 cait             mveron: and what did you do to crash mysql? I never ever managed to do that :)
17:42 cait             you are installing master?
17:42 cait             mveron: very recently pushed
17:41 janPasi          god, this is frustrating...
17:41 mveron           (...) borrowernumber int(11) NOT NULL, --- the borrower this rating is for   (...)
17:40 mveron           Seems that some comments are on the same line
17:40 mveron           Web-Installer › Step 3: ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 2821: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '- biblionumber int(11) NOT NULL, - rating_value tinyint(1) NOT NULL, - ' at line 2
17:39 janPasi          i don't understand how can it just stop working
17:39 mveron           I'm about to re-install koha after  a mysql crash.
17:39 janPasi          no help in faq
17:38 cait             hi mveron :)
17:38 mveron           hi #koha
17:35 cait             perhaps something here gives you a hint?
17:35 wahanui          it has been said that searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
17:35 cait             searching faq?
17:35 janPasi          there seems to be messages about "uninitialized value $lang" from 8.4. onwards
17:35 cait             hm
17:34 janPasi          i don't know exactly what was done before it stopped working, i did ask, but i haven't gotten an answer yet
17:34 janPasi          it used to work, i got a report that it doesn't work just today
17:33 cait             what did you do before it broke?
17:33 cait             but it used to work?
17:32 janPasi          572 ?        S      0:02 zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/gmc/koha-conf.xml
17:32 janPasi          571 ?        S      0:00 daemon --name=gmc-koha-zebra --errlog=/var/log/koha/gmc/zebra-error.log --stdout=/va
17:32 cait             edveal: most of the time I try to make sure I have the right element first, by hiding it or making it red or something, then try the new element
17:32 janPasi          cait: seems to be
17:31 cait             edveal: not sure, I haven't used focus before
17:31 cait             edveal: sorry, i was in the kitchen
17:31 cait             janPasi: is your zebrasrv running?
17:28 janPasi          what broke it this time?
17:28 janPasi          these messages get repeated in opac-error.log
17:28 janPasi          [Thu Apr 12 20:27:36 2012] [error] [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] [Thu Apr 12 20:27:36 2012] opac-search.pl: Use of uninitialized value $lang in string eq at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 336.
17:27 janPasi          nothing in zebra-output.log
17:27 janPasi          nothing in zebra-error.log
17:26 janPasi          all of a sudden it returns nothing
17:26 janPasi          the search stopped working :(
17:21 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7831 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , In neworderempty budget drop down budgets should appear in a rational order
17:21 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt
17:21 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2034 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , circ/billing.pl needs the more complex code to achieve goals for large data sets
17:21 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7940 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Placing a hold on a single item from the staff cart causes errors
17:21 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7838 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Add sort-string-utf.chr for Ukrainian and Russian
17:21 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7834 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , order search at the top of acq does nothing
17:21 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7756 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , claim mail is not sent for serial claim
17:21 jenkins_koha     * colin.campbell: Bug 7831 : Sort budgets for selection in new order
17:21 jenkins_koha     * kyle: Bug 7876 - Followup - Fix span tag position, add fine amount spans.
17:21 jenkins_koha     * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 2034: Removing unused scripts billig.pl/billing.tt
17:21 jenkins_koha     * kyle: Bug 7940 - Placing a hold on a single item from the staff cart causes errors
17:21 jenkins_koha     * serhijdubyk: Bug 7838 - Add sort-string-utf.chr for Ukrainian and Russian
17:21 jenkins_koha     * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7834: order search at the top of acq does nothing
17:21 jenkins_koha     * jonathan.druart: Bug 7756: FIX send email for late orders
17:21 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #711: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/711/
17:16 mib_26k96f       hello any body
17:13 mib_26k96f       please help my imported data does not shows call number in opac but it show well in biblio of records
17:12 mib_26k96f       hi all
17:12 edveal           Even tried $("select[name='dotransfer']").focus();
17:07 edveal           Cait: I would think so... but I am not having any luck. I have tried $("#mainform .submit [value='Yes']").focus();
16:59 slef             bbl
16:59 wahanui          The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
16:59 slef             wahanui: @marc 952
16:59 slef             call number needs to be in the item record (tag 952 - specifically subfield o I think), not the biblio record
16:58 iitrs            while importing the records opac does not shows the call number though call number has been imported successfully and it shows in biblio record of each item
16:57 iitrs            i need help regarding import
16:57 iitrs            hello koha users
16:55 cait             I think it should be possible to do that with jquery
16:49 edveal           Anyone figure out if you can change or assign focus when checking in an item from No to Yes for transfer?
16:41 slef             hi cait
16:41 cait             hi slef
16:40 slef             the day is a long way from over
16:36 huginn`          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7831 : Sort budgets for selection in new order <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5ac4a852f9b536649f9c40d0b7cdb02ce5e9773> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7876' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b20c2d6857629eed3f3eaf44cdca68dda36f4216> / Bug 7876 - Followup - Fix span tag position, add fine amount spans. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
16:35 schuster         with your help though I was able to fix my problem.
16:34 schuster         oleonard - I hesitate to answer your question on the grounds it may incriminate me in something stupid I may or may not have done :)
16:34 jenkins_koha     Starting build #711 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:27 paul_p           the day is over, and the passed QA list is empty. Bye bye #koha !
16:23 slef             hello dear iitrs
16:22 iitrs            hello dear koha users
15:59 oleonard         Not with classes like "pg_menu"
15:59 oleonard         schuster: I'm confused. In order for the default css to be messed up by your custom css you would have to have overridden the default, and that seems unlikely
15:55 schuster         OK that was what I was looking for the opac.css to look for thanks.  I'll dig into that one.
15:53 oleonard         schuster: Do you not have the default Koha opac.css in place, upon which you are adding your customizations?
15:52 schuster         Yes I have firebug up and running
15:52 wizzyrea         schuster: are you familiar with firebug or chrome's developer tools?
15:51 schuster         So I was trying to determine which css was controlling that to make sure it gets put in the right place.
15:50 wizzyrea         oh, then yes, the css that controls it is probably missing.
15:50 schuster         Remember I have some "custom" stylesheets.
15:50 oleonard         ...and clear the browser cache
15:49 wizzyrea         define "isn't displaying correctly"
15:49 schuster         I'm working on a new install and it isn't displaying correctly so something isn't right.
15:49 wahanui          the first question is "What are you trying to do?" or or what is the goal?
15:49 oleonard         the first question?
15:49 schuster         On the opac with the new navigation piece for next/previous record - is that controlled by a style sheet?
15:49 * wizzyrea       too
15:48 * oleonard       is
15:48 schuster         oleonard available for a question or maybe wizzyrea?
15:47 oleonard         Better to target the larger segment
15:47 oleonard         use of older versions is declining
15:47 oleonard         http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_firefox.asp
15:47 oleonard         I think submit the patch
15:43 gaetan_B         ?
15:43 gaetan_B         oleonard: should i go ahead an submit a patch or do we have to figure out what happens with other versions first ? i guess we would need a way to specifically target the concerned versions ,
15:40 oleonard         Yeah, I would have patched it myself but I got frustrated and then distracted :)
15:39 gaetan_B         *complicated
15:39 gaetan_B         seemingly easy patch just became a bit more comlicated :-/
15:39 oleonard         That's my concern
15:38 gaetan_B         i was on my way to submitting a patch but does that mean that these lines are needed for previous versions of ff?
15:38 oleonard         ...and Mozilla makes it pretty hard to locate older versions of Firefox
15:37 oleonard         I can't remember the last time something changed like that in Firefox
15:37 oleonard         Yeah, which is really unusual for Firefox
15:37 gaetan_B         aaah so it's a version thing
15:37 gaetan_B         but the comment before the lines i removed says "CSS Hack to target Firefox", when they actual seem to break things up in ff
15:37 oleonard         gaetan_B: That bug seems to have been caused by a change in Firefox's CSS handling, but I was unable to pinpoint when it happened
15:36 gaetan_B         which seems easy enough to fix : i removed a few lines in the css and the button is back in place
15:36 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7693 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , clear screen button misaligned
15:36 gaetan_B         i am looking at bug 7693
15:28 * wizzyrea       giggles
15:27 huginn`          wizzyrea: Quote #156: "druthb: I would feed wahanui a botsnack of windows 8 engineers, but they're full of fluff and not very filling. trea: like marshmallow peeps, with clip on ties." (added by wizzyrea at 02:09 PM, September 22, 2011)
15:27 wizzyrea         @quote random
15:27 * chris_n        thumbs his nose in the general direction of the library
15:26 kf_translating   paul_p++
15:25 wizzyrea         well yea.
15:25 chris_n          well, fixing it will be a waste of time when there are bigger fruit to be had by working on my koha upgrade
15:25 * chris_n        feels better already ;-)
15:25 wizzyrea         nice work.
15:25 wizzyrea         ah chris_n you got quote 200.
15:24 huginn`          wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #200 added.
15:24 wahanui          i already had it that way, wizzyrea.
15:24 wizzyrea         @quote add chris_n: usually the problem is either too much time and not enough cookies or not enough time and too many cookies
15:24 chris_n          it is duplicable across all workstations
15:23 wizzyrea         !
15:23 huginn`          wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
15:23 wizzyrea         @quote add chris_n: usually the problem is either too much time and not enough cookies or not enough time and too many cookies
15:23 chris_n          usually the problem is either too much time and not enough cookies or not enough time and too many cookies
15:23 wizzyrea         are they possibly tabbing through and it's getting set somehow?
15:23 wizzyrea         maybe you need to clear the cache/clear the history/clear the cookies?
15:23 chris_n          don't we wish :)
15:23 wahanui          Cookies are delicious delicacies
15:23 wizzyrea         ok... cookies?
15:22 chris_n          the real problem is that there is more of them than me
15:22 * wizzyrea       giggles
15:22 * chris_n        was saying by to reiveune
15:22 * wizzyrea       gets it now
15:22 chris_n          lol
15:21 wizzyrea         oh. I thought you were saying bye to go lay down the smack.
15:21 chris_n          ;-)
15:21 wizzyrea         gl
15:21 chris_n          bye
15:21 reiveune         bye
15:21 * chris_n        gets on his tough network admin hat
15:21 wizzyrea         or pick their library explicitly
15:21 chris_n          until I do the upgrade
15:21 chris_n          they will just have to educate foo's librarian to switch branches prior to checking in books
15:20 chris_n          no
15:20 wizzyrea         that could mess it up?
15:19 wizzyrea         i mean, do you have some?
15:19 wahanui          well, jquery is client side, so it doesn't have anything to do with the templating system
15:19 wizzyrea         jquery?
15:19 chris_n          exactly
15:19 * wizzyrea       assumes that "assigned to" means "has home library set to"
15:19 chris_n          sorry, more missing info... this patron is a librarian for library foo
15:18 kf_translating   chris_n: why would a patron log into staff?
15:17 chris_n          and my day suddenly becomes much less enjoyable :-)
15:16 chris_n          the problem which ensues is that said patron's books from branch foo are now checked in at branch bar and the librarians go stir-crazy
15:15 chris_n          somehow that sounds more complex than it is :-)
15:14 chris_n          when the new patron logs in, leaving the default "my library" selected said patron is logged into bar rather than foo
15:14 chris_n          library bar is the first branch created and foo is the second
15:13 chris_n          I create a patron assigned to library foo
15:13 chris_n          ie
15:13 chris_n          it is not
15:13 chris_n          obviously I got it back wards :-)
15:13 wizzyrea         how are they getting their home library unset?
15:13 wahanui          the first question is "What are you trying to do?" or or what is the goal?
15:13 wizzyrea         the first question?
15:13 * chris_n        contemplates an instantaneous, sudden, and even immediate upgrade
15:12 wizzyrea         hm.
15:12 chris_n          and wow does it cause problems :P
15:11 chris_n          sorry... its "almost" 3.4
15:11 wizzyrea         i haven't ever observed this, but I never ran 3.2 so...
15:10 chris_n          no
15:10 * chris_n        wonders if there was a bug back in 3.2 that is showing up
15:10 wizzyrea         does it not?
15:10 wizzyrea         their home library, yea
15:10 chris_n          shouldn't selecting "my library" during log in cause the patron to be logged into their "library"?
14:52 chris_n          lol
14:52 gmcharlt         chris_n: seems redundant, somehow ;)
14:44 chris_n          or C4::Obfuscate ?
14:44 chris_n          don't you mean C4::Convolute ?
14:41 kf_translating   you could sure hide something like that in C4:Search
14:41 gmcharlt         or is that C4::Search?
14:41 gmcharlt         but also includes an undocumented function that supports time travel -- when the moon is blue ;)
14:38 kf_translating   hmmm good guess :)
14:37 * oleonard       guesses it outputs
14:34 kf_translating   what does it do?
14:31 chris_n          for C4::Output being deprecated we sure use it a lot
14:10 * kf_translating hands over the jester hat back to slef
14:09 slef             kf_translating: I think you are wearing the jester hat still, but you know how to hire me...
14:08 kf_translating   slef: you could help? :) your german is good :)
14:00 chris_n          however, they are not present in master
14:00 chris_n          paul_p: see the buffer for the exact error, but the current dt css calls for those images
14:00 paul_p           phone ring...
14:00 paul_p           chris_n I don't understand well why I should push attachment 8830 (and only this one)
13:59 kf_translating   hope fredericd can fix it
13:59 kf_translating   because of a weird bug
13:58 kf_translating   and I have french in my pref files...
13:58 kf_translating   oh, I know.
13:58 kf_translating   paul_p: I know
13:58 jcamins          Ouch!
13:58 paul_p           kf_translating = the work done on capitalization made 2000 strings fuzzy... and 97% of the staff was translated to french already :\
13:58 slef             kf_translating: nein! Du mußt es selbst machen</Deutschglish>
13:57 chris_n          hehe
13:57 kf_translating   wish one of them could do translations for me
13:57 chris_n          cool
13:57 chris_n          wow
13:57 kf_translating   I love our bots
13:56 chris_n          ops
13:56 chris_n          bug 5345
13:56 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , DataTables in Koha
13:56 paul_p           OK, got it : bug 5345
13:56 huginn`          03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=8830&action=edit patch, [SIGNED-OFF] Bug 5345 [FOLLOW-UP] DataTables in Koha, SIGNED-OFF-Bug-5345-FOLLOW-UP-DataTables-in-Koha.patch
13:56 paul_p           chris_n = attachment 8830 is related to which bug ? (I need it)
13:55 kf_mtg           wb paul_p
13:55 paul_p           back...
13:54 kf_mtg           jcamins++
13:53 huginn`          kf_mtg: The operation succeeded.
13:53 kf_mtg           @later tell nengard Only trying to figure out how we can make it work for documentation and translation - perhaps different freezes - no better idea so far.
13:51 kf_mtg           oleonard++
13:49 nengard          be back
13:49 nengard          got to go give a webinar now
13:49 nengard          and they have to be pushed otherwise all the help files will link to the wrong manual and of course be out of date
13:49 nengard          like I said I'll finish by tomorrow
13:49 nengard          but at least I get all the help files updated with new links and the next text that I did write
13:48 nengard          and new things have made it in to Koha this week that are not necessarily documented
13:48 kf_mtg           but at the moment it's like it is
13:48 kf_mtg           decide to do interfaces first
13:48 nengard          Anyway, I'm almost done with the help files and should finish this week
13:48 kf_mtg           translators could prioritize
13:48 kf_mtg           I filed a bug because I think a separate po file would be good - would make it easier
13:47 kf_mtg           that's why it's a problem to have them put in after string freeze
13:47 nengard          hmmm
13:47 kf_mtg           nengard: they get picked up by the translation scripts like any other page in Koha
13:47 nengard          kf_mtg wait - you're translating the help files??? I want those translations put in to the manual - we only have an English manual and then partials of other languages - and the language in those help files are copied right from the manual
13:47 chris_n          wahanui: spelling is also a problem at times
13:47 jcamins          Then there's a freeze a week later that says "no new strings, including documentation!"
13:47 chris_n          wahahui: spelling is also a problem at times
13:47 kf_mtg           nengard: and you don't see what belongs where, you can't search and exclude them
13:46 kf_mtg           nengard: they end up all in one big file
13:46 jcamins          There's a freeze that says "no new features, everything has to be documented!"
13:46 kf_mtg           nengard: we have to
13:46 wahanui          somebody said communication was always teh problem :(
13:46 kf_mtg           and communication
13:46 kf_mtg           so perhaps we need a documentation freeze before string freeze
13:46 nengard          that said, does anyone actual translate the help files? and if so - why aren't they translating the manual as well :) it's the same text
13:46 chris_n          welcome to thursday
13:46 jcamins          nengard: that's the idea for the documentation freeze.
13:46 chris_n          hi jcamins
13:46 kf_mtg           nengard: I only argue that we need to get it done before string freze
13:46 nengard          kf_mtg I can't stop documenting until after the feature freeze and even then there are new things going in to Koha that I need to put in the manual - until I finish the manual I can't do the help files for Koha
13:46 chris_n          yay! it works now
13:44 kf_mtg           nengard: perhaps a separate documentation freeze would help next time?
13:43 oleonard         ...and if you lose your place you do nnnnnnnnnn and start over again :)
13:43 kf_mtg           nengard: it will mean that the help files show up in english for other languages :(
13:43 chris_n          ahh
13:43 kf_mtg           I normally do nnnnn y
13:43 kf_mtg           no afaik :(
13:43 huginn`          nengard: The operation succeeded.
13:43 nengard          @later tell paul_p i know they're full of strings, but the help files for Koha 3.8 need to be pushed (a few more still need to be written and I'm doing that) bug 7936 has them
13:43 chris_n          so is git-bz smart enough to be told to grab just that patch from the bug?
13:42 huginn`          chris_n: The operation succeeded.
13:42 chris_n          @later tell paul_p please push http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=8830 as the current dt css in master is broken without those images
13:41 chris_n          yay!
13:41 oleonard         String-free! :)
13:41 * chris_n        looks around for paul_p
13:41 chris_n          so that patch at least needs to be pushed to master
13:40 oleonard         Right, if the images are added the CSS should work
13:40 chris_n          [Thu Apr 12 09:34:15 2012] [error] [client 192.168.0.110] File does not exist: /home/cnighswonger/Repositories/koha.3.2.labels/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/img/prev-disabled.png,
13:40 oleonard         chris_n: I don't know what you refer to
13:40 chris_n          well, the current dt css references those files
13:40 kf_mtg           some datatables are in, but those are more
13:39 kf_mtg           I am not sure they have been pushed since I signed off
13:39 chris_n          oleonard: so the css needs fixing?
13:39 kf_mtg           the patches have not been obsoleted
13:39 chris_n          master
13:39 oleonard         Yeah, there it is
13:39 chris_n          well, the rest of the dt stuff is in
13:39 kf_mtg           hm I don't remember renaming it
13:39 oleonard         Renamed?
13:39 kf_mtg           http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=8830
13:38 chris_n          afaict
13:38 kf_mtg           i is
13:38 chris_n          and the patch is not attached to the bug
13:38 kf_mtg           I think it's stuck in qa
13:38 chris_n          those images are missing in master
13:38 huginn`          04Bug 5345: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , DataTables in Koha
13:38 kf_mtg           http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5345
13:38 chris_n          looks like it got dropped somewhere
13:38 kf_mtg           not sure those patches got pushed
13:38 kf_mtg           chris_n: I remember signing off on it - it's on the bug for datatables
13:36 chris_n          http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Bug-5345-FOLLOW-UP-DataTables-in-Koha-td5541624.html
13:36 chris_n          oleonard: is it me or did this patch get dropped along the way?
13:26 nengard          let me see if i add some to another patron if that blocks them up
13:26 nengard          i do have patron attributes
13:20 kf_mtg           could it be something related to patron attributes or the like?
13:20 kf_mtg           oleonard: I feel like I have read the error message before but can't remember :(
13:19 oleonard         Hmm... Maybe you should bake him a cake if he hasn't had anything special lately :)
13:18 nengard          oleonard yeah, i'm thinking it's just that one patron but i can't figure out what could be wrong since i didn't do anything special to him recently
13:07 Oak              funny
13:07 Oak              then the error
13:07 Oak              reproduce the patron
12:58 * oleonard       can't reproduce nengard's patron error
12:25 kf_mtg           :)
12:25 kf_mtg           hi oleonard
12:25 oleonard         Hey
12:10 jwagner          skk, you can try this as well: select count(*) from statistics where type = 'issue' and borrowernumber = '1' (whatever your borrower# is)
12:07 slef             bbl
12:07 wahanui          SQL reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
12:07 slef             wahanui: SQL reports library?
12:07 slef             skk: if just one, try the Circulation History tab, else look at the SQL reports library
12:05 slef             skk: just one patron?
11:53 skk              i want to generate a report in koha to get "total number of books used by a particular patron" hw can this report be generated
11:28 jwagner          Hi Amit_Gupta
11:28 Amit_Gupta       heya jwagner
11:12 wahanui          rumour has it the data in that database is more public library-oriented
11:12 slef             the data in that database?
11:11 wahanui          BTW, is SIP2 included in master or do I have instal a third party package?
11:11 slef             BTW,?
11:11 slef             BTW?
11:10 wahanui          rumour has it :) is ok
11:10 slef             :)?
11:10 kf               lol
11:10 wahanui          yeah, yeah, hello, hello. Now fix some bugs for me, please.
11:10 slef             hi all?
11:10 rangi            it can be my thing
11:10 rangi            i might do the almonds on the airplane again
11:09 wahanui          "any old iron, any old iron, any any any old iron" was a popular 1980s advertising slogan.
11:09 slef             any old iron?
11:09 wahanui          slef is an avid cyclist
11:09 kf               slef?
11:09 kf               slef: for a bot he is insanely clever
11:09 wahanui          I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
11:09 rangi            rangi?
11:09 slef             wahanui is not very clever
11:09 rangi            :)
11:09 kf               Amit_Gupta: perhaps I can help?
11:09 wahanui          rangi's only excuse is probably I was doing it under protest :)
11:09 slef             what's rangi's only excuse?
11:09 slef             heh
11:09 slef             rangi: what's your only excuse?
11:09 slef             bye rangi
11:07 Amit_Gupta       some translation question
11:07 Amit_Gupta       yes
11:07 * rangi          goes to sleep
11:07 kf               Amit_Gupta: do you have a translation question?
11:06 kf               hi Amit_Gupta
11:05 Amit_Gupta       heya kf
11:05 Amit_Gupta       fredericd around??
11:01 kf               yay :)
10:48 slef             please email out Common Text and Call for Registrations from http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Announcements to any library/software-related mailing lists you can
10:45 slef             register here http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/registration/
10:45 rangi            yay!
10:45 slef             current registration count: 32
10:42 alex_a           bonjour
10:13 mtj              amen to that statement!
10:11 marcelr          who wrote it and why, is always interesting too ;)
10:10 mtj              interesting read... bad title :)
10:09 rangi            its like the koha vs evergreen silliness that some consultants like to perpetuate
10:08 rangi            because everyones situation is different you can't possibly cover them all in something like that
10:08 rangi            its why not do it properly and have both (and more)
10:08 rangi            its not vs
10:07 rangi            naw
10:07 mtj              http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL
10:07 mtj              interesting read....
09:02 ibeardsl1e       nice
08:58 Brooke           when I lose, I'll give that to the Community
08:58 Brooke           http://kohacon2013.wordpress.com
08:58 Brooke           yeah for mah KohaCon bid for 2013. :)
08:57 slef             bidsite?
08:51 Brooke           5 different countries visited me bidsite >:)
08:51 * Brooke         preens.
08:50 Amit_Gupta       ?
08:50 Amit_Gupta       federicd around
08:28 rangi            heh, 9 messages the same to the mailing list, and now 2 to me .. this shahas guy is not the best at mail etiquette
08:25 Brooke           that and all the cool kids go to hackfest. >:)
08:24 rangi            also if you come to the hackfest you will meet lars who wrote http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging
08:24 Brooke           howdy
08:23 esofiane         hehe thanks rangi
08:23 rangi            hi Brooke
08:23 rangi            etc :)
08:23 Brooke           o/
08:23 rangi            dh_shlibdeps(1) calcule les dépendances en bibliothèques partagées pour les paquets binaires. Il crée une liste d'exécutables ELF et de bibliothèques partagées trouvées pour chaque paquet binaire. Cette liste est utilisée en remplacement de ${shlibs:Depends}.
08:23 rangi            La dernière fonctionnalité à connaître est ${shlibs:Depends}, ${perl:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, etc.
08:22 rangi            http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.fr.html#control
08:22 rangi            or better
08:22 rangi            http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.en.html#control
08:19 esofiane         thx :) , but what is ${misc:Depends} and ${koha:Depends} ?
08:16 rangi            etc
08:16 rangi            apache2-mpm-itk,
08:16 rangi            apache2,
08:16 rangi            Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${koha:Depends},
08:16 wahanui          all is quiet on the open source front
08:16 rangi            Architecture: all
08:16 wahanui          rumour has it koha-common is the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance)
08:16 rangi            Package: koha-common
08:16 rangi
08:16 rangi            yes
08:15 esofiane         But in the debian/control there are all dependances ?
08:15 rangi            the answer is still debian/control :)
08:15 esofiane         yes kf , mysql, apache2, etc.
08:13 wahanui          hmmm... searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
08:13 rangi            searching faq?
08:13 wahanui          i heard searching was not working
08:13 rangi            searching?
08:12 rangi            yep it has all those too
08:12 kf               hm mysql, apache, perhaps?
08:11 rangi            you can look in debian/control
08:11 rangi            what is no perl?
08:07 esofiane         Do you know how to list all dependencies of perl and "no-perl" of koha ?
07:43 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7756 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , claim mail is not sent for serial claim
07:43 rangi            bug 7756
07:43 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7016 blocker, P1 - high, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily
07:43 rangi            hmm bug 7016
07:40 kf               hi marcelr :)
07:40 marcelr          hi kf
07:39 kf               hi #koha
07:36 rangi            kf++
07:36 rangi            that was a nice fix
07:36 huginn`          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7354 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Can't edit local use system preferences
07:36 rangi            bug 7354
07:34 marcelr          hi rangi
07:28 rangi            hello europe
07:20 esofiane         Good morning
07:18 julian_m         hello
07:15 gaetan_B         hello
07:06 marcelr          hi asaurat
07:05 wahanui          hey, asaurat
07:05 asaurat          hi
07:01 marcelr          hi samuel
07:01 samuel           hi everybody!
06:57 * Oak            used translate.google.com to get correct spelling of Monsieur
06:54 marcelr          hi koha
06:47 reiveune         hello
06:41 Oak              Bonjour Monsieur paul_p
06:37 paul_p           good morning #koha
06:10 francharb        good morning
06:02 mtj              hiya BobB
06:02 BobB             hi mtj, are you about?
05:09 mtj              still, if it fixes some typing-lag problems for me.... i'll take it! :)
05:08 mtj              yeah, theres that bit-weirdy 60,000-61,000 udp stuff... :/
05:05 eythian          I don't have any servers new enough to run it, also it poses some firewalling concerns.
05:04 * mtj            has a linode box in japan, which could be a good candidate to test a mosh shell
05:02 mtj              heya peeps
05:02 Oak              :)
05:02 cait             good morning #koha
05:02 cait             hi mtj and Oak :)
05:02 Oak              kia ora #koha
05:02 mtj              http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/04/11/1343257/mosh-modernizing-ssh-with-ip-roaming-instant-local-echo
05:02 Oak              Good morning cait
05:01 mtj              oooh, this mosh tool looks interesting...
03:53 Amit_Gupta       fredericd around??
03:30 Amit_Gupta       heya bag
02:21 druthb           o/
01:48 Judit            hi
00:04 eythian          well, ask and I'll answer when I can
00:03 jcamins          eythian: okay, my question will keep so I'll wait until it isn't just "sorta." ;)
00:02 eythian          jcamins: sorta
00:02 jcamins_away     eythian: around?