Time  Nick           Message
23:30 rangi          gmcharlt++
22:20 rangi          Yum
22:16 jcamins        Good night, #koha.
22:16 * jcamins      goes to make saag paneer. :)
22:05 cait           I agree
22:04 rangi          i reckon time to just focus on cleaning for the release, not adding new things
22:04 rangi          yep
22:04 cait           the logs are messy
22:04 cait           I fear so
22:04 rangi          a lot of bugs and regressions have crept in in the last few months
22:04 cait           only trying to fix it
22:04 cait           ah yes
22:04 rangi          i just meant in general
22:03 rangi          yep
22:03 cait           because else my cronjob would sent me a complain mail every minute
22:03 rangi          i think time to stablise now before the release, just focus on fixes
22:03 cait           I am working on a master branch with the xslt patch applied...
22:03 rangi          no, master is a bit of a mess at the moment
22:03 cait           but it's a start
22:03 cait           and the mails have broken diacritics
22:03 cait           still experimenting
22:03 cait           perhaps my mail setup
22:03 cait           *sigh*
22:03 cait           yeah, but still not working on master...
22:00 huginn         jcamins: The operation succeeded.
22:00 jcamins        @later tell eythian Are you allowed to use Perl scripts in debian/scripts?
21:55 jcamins        Yay!
21:55 rangi          yay
21:54 cait           serial alerts work in 3.6.3!
21:54 cait           hah
21:53 rangi          heh
21:50 jcamins        rangi: well, it's not like koha-foreach is going to work when I'm done with it anyway. :P
21:48 jcamins        (I know I could do fork and exec manually)
21:46 jcamins        There must be some way in Perl to make system not wait.
21:42 * jcamins      ponders.
21:42 jcamins        (and sekjal's research suggests that just loading all the C4 modules is a performance killer)
21:41 rangi          yep, master is currently dead in the water
21:40 jcamins        There won't be a deadlock, which is good, but starting rebuild_zebra apparently involves loading all of C4, including C4::XSLT.
21:39 jcamins        Yes, but I'm concerned about the load on the server.
21:39 rangi          which you are
21:38 rangi          as long as its doing different db
21:38 rangi          afaik you cna run zebraidx in parallel
21:38 jcamins        If only I knew how to do it. ;)
21:37 jcamins        I like the idea of koha-foreach -j N
21:37 rangi          yep
21:37 jcamins        Actually, I guess if there were a koha-foreach script that didn't run everything in parallel, or managed child processes, it wouldn't even be a problem to use cron.
21:36 rangi          so you can still just store it in mysql, and have different indexing jobs running, that use the config files to update the right zebra db
21:35 jcamins        Exactly.
21:35 rangi          so essentially using zebra like we use mysql
21:35 rangi          just one zebrasrv
21:35 sekjal         either that, or allow the daemon to handle multiple instances at once
21:35 rangi          yep, and sep zebra dbs
21:34 jcamins        Because there'd be separate MySQL DBs for each instance.
21:34 rangi          well you would need multiple instances of the indexer running
21:34 sekjal         runtime memory of a indexer daemon?
21:34 jcamins        fredericd's indexer would work well, if I had a single zebraqueue to look at.
21:34 rangi          why not in mysql?
21:33 rangi          yep
21:33 jcamins        Indexing is a bit of an issue, though.
21:32 jcamins        Should be reasonably easy to do--I just make the Zebra databases koha_whatever_biblios koha_whatever_authorities, and the searching is happy.
21:32 jcamins        So I'd like to share a single Zebra backend.
21:31 jcamins        (if I'm running a separate instance of Zebrasrv for each student)
21:31 jcamins        I would like to be able to provide Koha instances to library school students, but I don't want to show any favoritism. This means that the 28MB overhead of Zebra is a bit of an issue.
21:29 jcamins        rangi: sekjal: any thoughts on where one might store the zebraqueue other than MySQL?
21:29 cait           hehe
21:26 jcamins        I gave Myshkin a little lick of ricotta.
21:26 jcamins        I have an exceedingly happy cat on my lap.
21:25 cait           hi jcamins
21:25 rangi          hey sekjal and jcamins
21:24 jcamins_away   o/
21:02 cait           hi sekjal
21:01 sekjal         morning, rangi.  evening, cait.
20:54 cait           morning rangi :)
20:54 rangi          Morning
17:49 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7821 critical, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Passed QA , XSLT systempreference multi-language support
17:49 jcamins        Bug 7821
17:04 jcamins        magnus_away: when you're not away, if you have a moment and I'm around, I have a question for you.
16:54 cait           jcamins++
16:52 jcamins        Where could we store the zebraqueue if not in MySQL?
16:38 jcamins        I mean, I could have the reindex and Zebra run as a completely different user from Apache's Koha user, and it wouldn't cause any problems... yes?
16:38 jcamins        The ownership issues with Zebra only have to do with reindexing, right?
16:28 * jcamins_away waves back.
16:15 * cait         waves once more
16:02 slef           kmkale: I emailed out the first round of paper review requests today.  It's coming together!
15:52 kmkale         dinner time bbl
15:45 slef           ok ok
15:45 kmkale         how's the preps going?
15:45 kmkale         Hi slef :)
15:45 slef           hi kmkale
15:44 kmkale         Namaste #koha
14:06 slef           ttyl
14:06 slef           basically, it's an apache config probelm, more base than koha
14:05 slef           Culiforge: hrm, ok, you need to remove the NameVirtualHost *:80 or similar
14:05 Culiforge      slef: Ok, gotta go... it's 10AM here. I'm late for breakfast with the family... thanks for the help. gonna think on all this for a bit and maybe come back later
14:03 Culiforge      slef: same with 8080
14:03 Culiforge      slef: HMMM..  Apache doesn't like that noise --(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80
13:53 slef           the virtualhost lines, change them to *:80 and *:8080, or (if you don't want to access this from anywhere except localhost) change NameVirtualHost to 127.0.0.1:80 and add another line NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1:8080
13:52 slef           argh
13:51 Culiforge      Syntax OK
13:51 Culiforge      _default_:443          koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:75)
13:51 Culiforge      wildcard NameVirtualHosts and _default_ servers:
13:51 Culiforge      VirtualHost configuration:
13:51 Culiforge      slef: not making any progress... although 'httpd -S #' now returns: [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
13:49 Culiforge      slef: I just wish there was a way to make ubuntu look like fedora to my boss.. then I'd have this done already.
13:47 Culiforge      slef: this isn't my week to be adventursome
13:46 slef           Culiforge: spoilsport
13:46 Culiforge      slef: I'll just leave it in httpd.conf then. no need to break more stuff
13:45 slef           Culiforge: both mightcause a prob or might be fine
13:45 slef           Culiforge: either
13:45 Culiforge      slef: I see that httpd.conf calls other *.conf in the directory
13:44 Culiforge      slef: would the Listen 8080 go in just the httpd.conf or does it need to be in koha-httpd.conf as well?
13:34 Culiforge      slef: the tiger is Montecore
13:32 slef           Seigfried and Roy... one thing I've never understood... which one's the tiger?
13:31 Culiforge      slef: I'm sure there's a club for that (or at least a support group)
13:30 * slef         ponders cataloguing himslef
13:29 Culiforge      slef: that's in the 'private' library... it's confidential...
13:28 slef           Culiforge: and if you dated yourself, did you put the date in the accession date MARC21 field?
13:28 slef           Culiforge: and if you dated yourself, is that incest?
13:27 Culiforge      slef: man, did I just date myself..
13:26 Culiforge      slef: nice, thanks for the confidence vote 8-ball
13:26 slef           Culiforge: reply hazy, ask again later
13:25 Culiforge      slef: hehe, so what's the probablility of me figuring this out? ;)
13:25 slef           Culiforge: yes, probably both *:80 and *:8080, and Listen *:8080 too
13:25 Culiforge      slef: makes sense
13:24 slef           I'm a statistician! ;)
13:24 slef           as far as I know, anyway
13:24 slef           ::1 is the IPv6 way of writing 127.0.0.1
13:22 Culiforge      back
13:16 Culiforge      afk one sec, coffee and let the dog out
13:16 Culiforge      slef:  so I'm a library type, not a networking type. what does ::1 mean
13:07 Culiforge      NameVirtualHost *:80 in httpd.conf, should there also be NameVirtualHost *:8080 ?
13:02 wahanui        rumour has it i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow
13:02 slef           wahanui: wahanui?
13:02 wahanui        OK, slef.
13:02 slef           wahanui: virtualhost is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/vhosts/
13:01 Culiforge      hold a sec.. didn't edit httpd.conf
13:00 wahanui        errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit!
13:00 slef           wahanui: die!
13:00 wahanui        I like *your* figure
13:00 slef           wahanui: figures
13:00 wahanui        slef: i'm not following you...
13:00 slef           wahanui: you're useless
13:00 wahanui        wish i knew, slef
13:00 slef           wahanui: virtualhost?
13:00 slef           ok, in the 127.0.0.1:8080, what ServerName is given?
12:59 Culiforge      still no webinstaller tho.
12:58 Culiforge      restarted anyway.. no harm..
12:58 slef           I don't think it needs a restart
12:58 slef           reload it
12:53 Culiforge      do I need to restart apache after editing?
12:52 slef           for each address
12:52 slef           else apache will only serve the default virtualhost
12:51 slef           you need to remove the # in front of namevirtualhost
12:49 Culiforge      I have #namevirtualhost * then ##opac / <virtualhost 127.0.0.1:80>  and then ##intranet  <virtualhost 127.0.0.1:8080>
12:48 wahanui        slef: i don't know
12:48 slef           wahanui: NameVirtualHost?
12:48 wahanui        i don't know, slef
12:48 slef           wahanui: apache docs?
12:45 slef           Culiforge: ok, so are there lines "NameVirtualHost ::1:80" and "NameVirtualHost ::1:8080" in your apache config and does koha-httpd.conf have sections <NameVirtualHost ::1:80> and 8080?
12:43 slef           Culiforge: it sounds awfully like you've put (or the installer guessed) Koha on koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us and then either not told apache to serve NameVirtualHosts or not told anything where to find koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us.
12:43 Culiforge      koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us is in hosts, yes led by ::1
12:42 Culiforge      looing at hosts file.. one sec...
12:42 Culiforge      slef: currently trying localhost, 127.0.0.1, koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us, and 192.168.1.2 all with :8080 to no avail
12:39 slef           and what URL were you accessing to try to look at koha?
12:39 slef           ok, and does either "host koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us" work for you or is there a line for "koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us" in your /etc/hosts?
12:38 Culiforge      slef: ok, so in resolv.conf it lists 'search' as the address above without the koha. and 'nameserver' as my router address '192.168.1.1
12:36 slef           Culiforge: might not be enough to stop koha working, but doesn't help.
12:35 Culiforge      slef: ok, I'll check that out
12:35 slef           Culiforge: sorry, your hosts or resolv.conf is misconfigured
12:34 Culiforge      slef:  httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us
12:33 Culiforge      I'll give it a shot and see what happens
12:33 slef           or apache2 -S # if it's called apache2 not httpd
12:33 slef           httpd -S # to show where each site comes from, I think
12:33 slef           that def works on deb
12:33 Culiforge      slef: or is that a deb command
12:32 slef           no idea
12:32 Culiforge      will that work on Fedora (ducks and covers)
12:32 wahanui        errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit!
12:32 slef           wahanui: die!
12:32 wahanui        slef: what?
12:32 slef           wahanui: 50% success!
12:32 wahanui        index of / is, like, a sign that you may need to run sudo a2dissite default
12:32 slef           wahanui: index of /?
12:32 wahanui        i don't know, slef
12:32 slef           wahanui: it works?
12:32 slef           it works is a sign that you may need to run sudo a2dissite default
12:32 slef           index of / is a sign that you may need to run sudo a2dissite default
12:31 Culiforge      no, it's currently completely local
12:31 wahanui        slef: bugger all, i dunno
12:31 slef           wahanui: it works?
12:31 slef           Culiforge: does the server serve any other websites?
12:31 slef           check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
12:29 Culiforge      question for you or anyone else lurking about.... koha installed, all fixed up try webinstaller... get the apache 'index of /' page. checked hosts, httpd.conf, koha-httpd.conf I'm at a loss. any thoughts?
12:27 slef           Culiforge: well, blooming layabouts, always sleeping ;)
12:27 Culiforge      slef: ++
12:27 slef           Culiforge: OIC
12:18 Culiforge      <back, just logged on and it said the topic is: happy friday NZ, (I know it's not friday.. just playin along :) )
12:04 cait           I am not subssribed to any other lists - not sure where it should go
12:02 slef           when it goes wider, it needs the "About Kohacon" and "About Koha" bits too
12:02 slef           rangi did good
12:02 wahanui        code4lib is mostly coders
12:02 slef           code4lib
12:01 cait           I haven't mailed any... but I think rangi did koha + koha-devel and 1 more
12:01 slef           on the wiki would be agood place to keep track
12:01 cait           but at least she will be around sometime
12:01 cait           oh :(
12:01 cait           should we keep track of which lists we mailed somewhere?
12:01 slef           $RealJob may drag her away before end of hackfest though
12:00 cait           I will bring her chocolate
12:00 cait           that's ok
12:00 slef           cait: yes, so if you refuse to sponsor, you'll have to face her
12:00 cait           i will still like her
11:59 slef           cait: wait until she starts asking you for money ;)
11:59 cait           will S be in Edinburgh? :)
11:59 cait           nah
11:59 cait           S is a nice person :)
11:59 slef           This may be the end of a beautiful relationship ;)
11:58 slef           I think S just offered to work on kohacon12 sponsorships.
11:58 cait           so interesting papers? :)
11:58 cait           heh
11:58 slef           ohhh it's the stress you know
11:57 cait           I started to worry a bit
11:57 cait           hehe
11:57 slef           I knew it was there somewhere ;)
11:56 wahanui        LOVE YOU TOO MATE but shut up and let me work
11:56 slef           wahanui: ILOVEYOU
11:54 cait           heh
11:53 wahanui        slef: sorry...
11:53 slef           wahanui: oh get bent
11:53 wahanui        slef: huh?
11:53 slef           wahanui: I LOVE YOU
11:53 wahanui        slef: huh?
11:53 slef           wahanui: I LOVE YOU!
11:51 cait           sunday in nz
11:50 wahanui        i guess Friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday
11:50 slef           Friday?
11:47 Culiforge      Happy Friday NZ and #koha!
10:46 slef           lots of good papers coming in
10:46 * slef         does a bit more kohacon12 tweaking
10:42 slef           mle++
10:42 slef           yay mle
09:31 * mle          will chase the internet access on MOnday
07:12 cait           hey #koha
06:49 Oak            hello bag
06:49 bag            hiya Oak
06:32 Oak            kia ora #koha