Time  Nick           Message
23:32 libsysguy      weird
23:32 rangi          hmm works for me
23:32 libsysguy      yeah its showing up as down for me
23:32 libsysguy      in general
23:32 rangi          http://search.cpan.org/
23:32 rangi          or just in general
23:32 rangi          for?
23:31 libsysguy      rangi if you are around can you search cpan?
23:24 libsysguy      ok cool, thanks rangi
23:23 rangi          i think so libsysguy
23:23 libsysguy      when things get checked in, it just calls AddReturn right?
23:23 melia          that's ok rangi. I'll just try it and see what happens. :)
23:23 rangi          not sure sorry melia
23:23 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #689: FIXED in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/689/
23:23 jenkins_koha   Yippie, build fixed!
23:07 melia          can I add <<items.content>> to the preduedgst instead of just the <<count>> of items due? or will that not work?
23:07 melia          question about notices
22:35 jenkins_koha   Starting build #689 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #687 13 hr ago)
22:34 jenkins_koha   rangi: job Koha_Master build scheduled now
22:34 rangi          !jenkins build Koha_Master now
22:05 rangi          dpavlin++
21:47 rangi          might have to add that into xt/
21:46 libsysguy      awesome
21:45 rangi          http://perlbuzz.com/2012/03/new-htmllint-beta-validates-html-entities.html
21:45 rangi          yay!
21:44 rangi          yeah, that'd do it
21:43 libsysguy      all the space was being hogged up my uncleaned imports….3.5 gig
21:43 libsysguy      rangi did you see what I told jcamins_away about the database size?
21:29 magnus_away    :-)
21:29 rangi          night cait and magnus_away
21:28 cait           :)
21:28 cait           good night #koha
21:28 cait           good night magnuse :)
21:27 * magnus_afk   wishes #koha a good night
21:22 huginn         Brooke: The operation succeeded.
21:22 Brooke         @later tell Space_Librarian scandalous Mozart theme continues. http://www.kennedy-center.org/wno/
20:35 wahanui        i think pizza is in the oven.
20:35 cait           pizza?
20:35 cait           ooh
20:34 * jcamins_away becomes really away instead of just _away
20:16 wahanui        Friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday
20:16 Brooke         Friday?
20:16 Brooke         cheers
20:16 oleonard       Bye #koha
20:09 cait           wizzyrea++
20:04 libsysguy      jcamins++
20:04 libsysguy      jcamins_away is the man :p
20:03 jcamins_away   :)
20:03 jcamins_away   Who called it?
20:03 libsysguy      holy moly
20:03 libsysguy      jcamins_away: cleaning up those imports reduced the db size to 1.6 gigs
20:03 wahanui        MaxReserves is, like, very useful
20:03 wizzyrea       hmm. MaxReserves?
20:02 oleonard       No
20:02 wizzyrea       independant branches?
20:00 cait           hmm
19:57 oleonard       Yes, both
19:57 cait           oleonard: maxreserves and a defaultdefaultdefault rule set?
19:57 libsysguy      i just torrent them
19:56 libsysguy      but then again I don't actually check out books
19:56 libsysguy      no I haven't
19:56 jcamins_away   libsysguy: no, you never noticed that?
19:56 oleonard       "No copies are available to be placed on hold" except for the copes which are available, I can see them right there
19:56 libsysguy      out of the box
19:56 libsysguy      holds don't work?
19:55 oleonard       The worst part is not getting any information about why you can't place holds
19:55 * jcamins_away has often wondered that. But they sure don't.
19:55 oleonard       Why can't holds just work?!
19:55 oleonard       Worst part of setting up a new Koha install: getting Zebra to work and getting holds to work
19:48 * libsysguy    hopes
19:48 libsysguy      maybe its deleting a bunch
19:48 libsysguy      the cleanup script i wrote is taking awhile though
19:48 libsysguy      well sessions are running on memcached now
19:47 jcamins_away   You would've noticed the slowdown if you did.
19:47 jcamins_away   libsysguy: yeah, I didn't think you could have *that much* in the sessions table.
19:47 libsysguy      ill see what happens after i clean up all the imports
19:47 libsysguy      jcamins_away: for the record the cleanup script only took off about 300 meg
19:44 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , get_batch_summary massive speedup
19:44 libsysguy      bug 7846**
19:44 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7486 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED INVALID, empty columns (call number, barcode) on holds tab
19:44 libsysguy      bug 7486?
19:44 rangi          apparently makes it a zillion times faster
19:44 rangi          needs signoff
19:43 libsysguy      is it pushed or needs signed off?
19:43 rangi          but not live :)
19:42 rangi          libsysguy: you should test that new batch improvement thingy
19:40 libsysguy      lol, thats a lot of clicking
19:40 libsysguy      there are over 200 so its worth my time to find out
19:40 jcamins_away   libsysguy: yeah, that would make sense.
19:40 libsysguy      jcamins_away: I think to clean those records I can just call the cleanbatch function from in a script with the batchid
19:38 wizzyrea       shoot
19:38 cait           need your help :)
19:38 wizzyrea       yep, sup
19:38 cait           wizzyrea: around?
19:32 libsysguy      yeah, ok got it switched over
19:31 jcamins_away   It looks like SetEnv memcached_servers whatever, I think.
19:30 libsysguy      yeah i see it in koha-httpd.conf
19:29 * rangi        checks
19:29 rangi          assuming of course someone has made the changes consistently
19:29 rangi          accept the syspref of course
19:28 rangi          so yeah those things need to be in your apache config, not the koha-conf.xml
19:28 libsysguy      ^^
19:28 chris_n        stable? what's that?
19:28 libsysguy      likes life on the edge
19:28 libsysguy      never runs a stable version :p
19:28 jcamins_away   rangi: everyone other than libsysguy and chris_n is. :P
19:27 rangi          sorry i always assume ppl are running stable
19:27 rangi          oh in master yeah
19:27 libsysguy      heh thanks magnus_afk
19:27 * magnus_afk   wanders off to make waffels
19:27 magnus_afk     libsysguy: i forgot to mention: you could just have truncated the sessions table - much faster than running the script on it
19:26 jcamins_away   rangi: I thought we pulled the memcached configuration out of koha-conf.xml and put it into environment variables?
19:26 wahanui        jcamins_away: what?
19:26 jcamins_away   wahanui: search memcached
19:25 * libsysguy    likes it when a server knows how to wipe its own…well you know
19:25 rangi          no stale sessions filling up the table :)
19:25 rangi          it also means it cleans up after itself
19:25 libsysguy      gotcha
19:25 rangi          make sure you try it on staging first
19:25 rangi          and then switch the syspref
19:25 rangi          something like that
19:25 rangi          <memcached_namespace>KOHA</memcached_namespace>
19:24 rangi          <memcached_servers>127.0.0.1:11211</memcached_servers>
19:24 libsysguy      and then just alter the conf file
19:24 libsysguy      heh its always something long
19:24 rangi          then edit the config
19:24 rangi          its on debian.koha-community.org
19:24 rangi          lib something something session-perl :)
19:24 rangi          and the perl module
19:24 libsysguy      ok I'll give it a go
19:24 rangi          sudo apt-get install memcached
19:23 rangi          but its not bad
19:23 libsysguy      i was sure the bot had some info
19:23 libsysguy      darn
19:23 libsysguy      wiki session?
19:23 rangi          hmm not sure
19:23 libsysguy      is there a wiki for config?
19:23 rangi          sessions change
19:23 libsysguy      ok, well i may work on getting that set up
19:23 rangi          anytime anyone does anything
19:23 rangi          and thats under moderate load
19:23 libsysguy      oh wow
19:23 rangi          when you shift sessions
19:23 rangi          libsysguy: seriously you take about 30writes/sec off the db
19:20 oleonard       You know, buns. With a hot cross.
19:20 libsysguy      maybe one server for writes and one for reads
19:20 * jcamins_away didn't realize that hot cross buns were something other than a song. ;)
19:20 libsysguy      so see if that would speed it up a bit
19:20 libsysguy      I thought about setting up a dedicated mysql server seperate from Koha
19:20 libsysguy      ok *phew*
19:19 jcamins_away   libsysguy: just alter the koha-httpd.conf file.
19:19 wizzyrea       probably - palm sunday is this week
19:19 libsysguy      would I have to rebuild koha or just alter the .conf file?
19:19 rangi          i think technically im a week early
19:19 rangi          ahh
19:18 libsysguy      oh well then
19:18 wizzyrea       no, about the hot cross buns and flat whites.
19:18 rangi          libsysguy: its very easy
19:18 jcamins_away   It's not as bad as wizzyrea makes it out to be.
19:18 wizzyrea       kinda.
19:18 wizzyrea       j/k
19:18 * wizzyrea     cries
19:18 * libsysguy    would have to set up memcache
19:18 * rangi        munches on his hot cross bun and drinks his flat white
19:18 jcamins_away   You should switch to storing sessions in memcached.
19:17 libsysguy      maybe that was the trick
19:17 libsysguy      oh it says its done
19:17 libsysguy      so I just added it
19:17 libsysguy      i couldn't find that entry in my.cnf
19:17 libsysguy      yeah thats what I just did…waiting to see if it crashes again
19:17 jcamins_away   Then run the cleanup script again.
19:17 jcamins_away   Increase the InnoDB buffer size.
19:16 jcamins_away   lol
19:16 libsysguy      lol
19:16 libsysguy      but i guess that is irrelevant to the error…or is it
19:16 libsysguy      and eating a sandwich
19:16 libsysguy      running the cleanup script
19:16 jcamins_away   What are you doing?
19:15 libsysguy      yeah i got this message The total number of locks exceeds the lock table size
19:15 jcamins_away   libsysguy: the lock table size?
19:14 * libsysguy    just overflowed the lock table size in mysql :-/
19:09 libsysguy      heh id rather deal with IE 9 than IE 7 or 8
19:08 * oleonard     glares at IE9
19:08 oleonard       That quote has held up well.
19:07 huginn         libsysguy: Quote #188: "oleonard: 64-bit IE9, for when you want to surf the web in a *powerfully* bad browser." (added by sekjal at 07:22 PM, February 24, 2012)
19:07 libsysguy      @quote random
19:04 huginn         magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:50 PM CEST on March 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
19:04 magnus_afk     @wunder boo
19:02 rangi          For 2 more days
19:01 wizzyrea       OMG
19:01 * wizzyrea     remembers it's march
19:01 wizzyrea       jeez, nearly.
19:01 oleonard       Whoa, wizzyrea, summer in KS eh?
19:01 rangi          It's blue skies and crisp gonna be nice
19:00 wizzyrea       shiny happy zebras holding hands?
19:00 huginn         wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 25.8°C (2:00 PM CDT on March 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1008 hPa (Falling).
19:00 wizzyrea       @wunder lawrence, ks
19:00 gmcharlt       what would the love child of *that* union look like?
19:00 rangi          Cloudy my butt
19:00 wizzyrea       zebra really *does* wish he could have sex. With solr.
19:00 huginn         oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 17.0°C (2:50 PM EDT on March 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
19:00 oleonard       @wunder 45701
19:00 huginn         rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on March 30, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
19:00 rangi          @wunder nzwn
18:56 oleonard       Now when that quote comes up randomly I can try to insist I was talking about Zebra.
18:56 * jcamins_away thinks that's going to raise some eyebrows in a few months.
18:56 rangi          Heh
18:55 huginn         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #194 added.
18:55 wizzyrea       @quote add oleonard: Everyone will be all, "Wow, that guys smells like he really wishes he could have sex!"
18:54 oleonard       Everyone will be all, "Wow, that guys smells like he really wishes he could have sex!"
18:53 rangi          Like a 14 year old
18:53 oleonard       rangi: You'll arrive to work smelling bus-fresh?
18:51 jcamins_away   lol
18:51 * rangi        contemplates a dive roll out the window
18:51 wizzyrea       oh dear
18:51 rangi          No! Don't spray more
18:49 rangi          Caught the bus full of school kids
18:49 * rangi        chokes under a cloud of impulse
18:49 jcamins_away   rangi: You don't like green tea?
18:48 rangi          zomgwtf
18:46 jcamins_away   That could be really good.
18:46 jcamins_away   Green tea chocolate fudge.
18:45 jcamins_away   Green tea chocolate.
18:45 jcamins_away   Mmm. Chocolate.
18:42 libsysguy      maybe just some chocolate
18:41 cait           lucy
18:41 cait           perhaps a girlfriend?
18:40 slef           bbml
18:40 slef           that's an abusive relationship!
18:37 libsysguy      it just wants a friend…named solr :p
18:37 libsysguy      poor zebra
18:37 libsysguy      heh
18:37 jcamins_away   The entire time, yeah.
18:36 libsysguy      well that'll give me something to do when zebra is rebuilding lol
18:36 jcamins_away   Hmm... not that I know of.`
18:36 libsysguy      without having to click clean for each import
18:36 libsysguy      is there a quick way to run the cleans
18:35 libsysguy      ill run the cleanup script
18:35 jcamins_away   Uncleaned imports basically *triple* the space required for one record.
18:35 * jcamins_away is betting on sessions and uncleaned imports.
18:35 wizzyrea       sessions are another biggie
18:35 magnus_afk     sessions in the db can take up a lot of space!
18:34 jcamins_away   Yeah, that's true.
18:34 libsysguy      yeah and every gig counts :p
18:34 wizzyrea       certainly they could have 1 or two though
18:34 jcamins_away   I mean, yeah, it'll take up some space, but that's a heck of a lot of actions.
18:34 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: if NEKLS had 6GB of actionlogs, after... four years? I don't see how UT Tyler could have anything really significant in one year.
18:34 libsysguy      yup…logging is on for sure
18:34 wizzyrea       etc.
18:34 wizzyrea       edit an item
18:34 wizzyrea       edit a patron
18:34 wizzyrea       add a patron, remove a patron, add a bib/item, delete a bib/item
18:34 wizzyrea       every time you do something, if you have logging on, it logs it in actionlogs.
18:33 libsysguy      forgive my still newbness
18:33 wizzyrea       ours was 11 with actionlogs.
18:33 libsysguy      what are the actionlogs...
18:33 wizzyrea       still, lots can get stuffed into actionlogs.
18:33 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: the data only goes back a year.
18:33 libsysguy      to make sure I don't break anything
18:33 libsysguy      i dumped and am going to import to my test db and clean it up
18:32 libsysguy      ok, the cleanup script should get the session
18:32 wizzyrea       actionlogs?
18:32 jcamins_away   If you're storing sessions in MySQL, and haven't been cleaning them out, that'll be part of it, too.
18:32 jcamins_away   That'll be part of it.
18:31 libsysguy      9 pages of uncleaned imports
18:31 * libsysguy    smh
18:31 * libsysguy    goes to look
18:31 * jcamins_away too.
18:31 libsysguy      I would be willing to bet the people importing aren't cleaning them
18:30 jcamins_away   Uncleaned imports?
18:30 libsysguy      im just trying to figure out what might be eating up all that space
18:30 jcamins_away   That seems large. wizzyrea's DB is, what, 7GB, and they have a lot of statistics in it.
18:29 libsysguy      not all of them have been in to use the library but I just import them with a feed
18:29 libsysguy      I have right under 300K biblios, and about 6000 patrons
18:28 jcamins_away   (considering the size of your library)
18:28 jcamins_away   That seems a bit high.
18:27 libsysguy      i just dumped my db for a backup and it was right at 5 gigs…is that about right?
18:23 libsysguy      and there it is…dunno why I didn't think to look there
18:22 jcamins_away   It's in misc/cronjobs
18:22 jcamins_away   libsysguy: there is.
18:21 libsysguy      old patrons, tmp data, etc
18:21 libsysguy      does anyone know if there is a database cleanup script?
18:19 jcamins_away   Hehe.
18:18 wizzyrea       hehehe that's a good one
18:18 huginn         gmcharlt: Quote #181: "*oleonard imagines perlcritic level Ebert and perlcritic level Siskel *jcamins imagines perlcritic levels Statler and Waldorf." (added by wizzyrea at 05:52 PM, January 13, 2012)
18:18 gmcharlt       @quote random
18:09 libsysguy      i was pretty proud of myself
18:09 libsysguy      all with jquery
18:09 * jcamins_away likes!
18:09 jcamins_away   Whoah!
18:08 libsysguy      and made it a list
18:08 libsysguy      I 86-ed that table of item types
18:08 libsysguy      http://catalog.uttyler.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl
18:08 jcamins_away   libsysguy: I don't think I did.
18:08 libsysguy      jcamins_away: I was going to ask if you saw the advanced search page for my opac when you were poking around
18:06 libsysguy      magnus++
18:06 * magnus_afk   wanders off again
18:06 cait           magnuse++
18:06 cait           :)
18:05 magnus_afk     my thought was that it should pull when the rm is sleeping :-)
18:05 jcamins_away   Ah.
18:05 magnus_afk     jcamins_away: it pulls every night (my night, that is)
18:04 magnus_afk     well, "right now" is an exaggeration
18:04 libsysguy      gracias
18:04 jcamins_away   magnus_afk: do you have a cronjob that pulls every hour or something?
18:04 magnus_afk     ooh, thanks wahanui
18:04 wahanui        it has been said that head.bibkat.no is up to date as of right now - login: demo/demo
18:04 magnus_afk     libsysguy: head.bibkat.no
18:04 libsysguy      I am getting the "Checked out from" field is always blank on the patron details page
18:03 jcamins_away   Not here.
18:03 libsysguy      anybody got a copy of master running?
18:01 cait           hi oleonard :)
18:01 oleonard       wb cait
17:58 cait           hi #koha
17:46 jcamins_away   Heh. That'll be fun.
17:45 tcohen         got to update from 3.0.x to 3.6 so...
17:45 tcohen         jcamins_away: thanks, already installed, going forward to test it
17:42 jcamins_away   There are a few things that look like misspellings but aren't, though, as I recall.
17:42 jcamins_away   The wiki is pretty good, though.
17:42 tcohen         oh, gonna take a look at it
17:41 jcamins_away   Puppet is a configuration management system.
17:41 jcamins_away   tcohen: yes, plus there are a few additional dependencies now, but I think they're mostly packaged.
17:41 tcohen         don't know what it is
17:41 tcohen         following the wiki for lucid?
17:41 jcamins_away   Actually, I had a Puppet config to take care of that.
17:40 jcamins_away   tcohen: I've installed via packages on Lucid.
17:36 slef           ok, building this again now, but leaving keyboard
17:35 tcohen         before i end working on koha (hope i dont) i'll manage to invite you a beer
17:34 rangi          Ppl have packages on lucid working
17:34 tcohen         thanks rangi
17:33 rangi          Look at the koha wiki
17:33 tcohen         we are waiting for 12.04 to move forward
17:33 tcohen         they are in catalyst's repo
17:33 tcohen         i cannot find them
17:33 rangi          Tcohen: lucid is old. Check the wiki for it. You will need to find the packages in the multiverse
17:32 slef           moving them, sending followup patch to 7284, reopening it
17:31 rangi          Could be in the init sub instead
17:31 rangi          Slef: it doesn't need to be in the begin
17:31 tcohen         and ge tunmet dependencies
17:31 huginn         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements
17:31 slef           @query C4::Heading::UNIMARC
17:31 tcohen         i'm testing squeeze stable koha-common on Ubuntu Lucid
17:31 rangi          All of them are in squeeze
17:30 slef           any pointers on the fix?
17:30 rangi          Tcohen: in 3.6.x ?
17:29 wahanui        errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit!
17:29 slef           wahanui: die!
17:29 rangi          Or marc21
17:28 wahanui        i think Yeah that is fine as it is
17:28 rangi          Yeah that
17:28 slef           C4::Heading::UNIMARC?
17:28 rangi          IIRC
17:28 rangi          It's not them its to do with heading:: something
17:27 slef           it's where I got those filenames from
17:27 slef           yeah I looked at that
17:27 slef           rangi: but I'll read logs in the morning
17:27 rangi          But Jenkins tells u if u look at console output
17:26 slef           rangi: ok, I'm out this evening. I'll return to this tomorrow.
17:26 tcohen         rangi: there are unmet dependencies
17:26 rangi          Slef can't easily on phone will when I get to a computer
17:25 rangi          It's all in mainline koha
17:25 tcohen         (hi rangi)
17:24 tcohen         rangi: what about the perl packages?
17:24 slef           point me at the bug or fix and let's get it to paul_p
17:24 slef           C4/Barcodes/hbyymmincr.pm and C4/External/BakerTaylor.pm ?
17:24 rangi          Tcohen: you don't need the catalyst repo
17:23 rangi          Both easy
17:23 rangi          On master yes needs 2 fixes
17:22 slef           so package-building is currently hopeless?
17:22 tcohen         anyone knows what is that apache2 package in the catalyst debian repo about?
17:22 rangi          There is a module that has a create dbh call in the begin block. Breaks the tests when building packages plus the dependencies
17:19 huginn         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans
17:19 slef           that's missing too
17:19 slef           @query libreadonly-perl
17:18 rangi          No check console output master can't build packages
17:16 libsysguy      looks better now :p
17:15 jenkins_koha   Master_Packages: last build: 22 (7 hr 10 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Master_Packages/22/
17:15 jenkins_koha   Koha_master: last build: 688 (3 hr 42 min ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/688/
17:15 jenkins_koha   Koha_Docs: last build: 41 (57 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/41/
17:15 jenkins_koha   Koha_3.6.x: last build: 44 (24 days ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/44/
17:15 jenkins_koha   Koha_3.4.x: last build: 80 (1 mo 7 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/80/
17:15 jenkins_koha   Koha_3.2.x: last build: 36 (3 mo 26 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/36/
17:15 jenkins_koha   3_6_Packages: last build: 7 (3 days 15 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/3_6_Packages/7/
17:15 jenkins_koha   status of all projects:
17:15 slef           jenkins_koha: status
17:15 slef           oooh, build fails
17:15 libsysguy      failing**
17:15 libsysguy      ok i was jw, I saw where builds kept fialing
17:14 slef           libsysguy: seems like a mainstream dep
17:14 libsysguy      slef is that the dep for hourly?
17:14 huginn         slef: eythian was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 39 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: * eythian is off home. Got to go sign a lease, pay bond, pay deposit, etc.
17:14 slef           @seen eythian
17:14 slef           eythian: can you add libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl to Build-Depends, or shall I do the bug shuffle?
17:13 slef           anyone else think that's a missing build-depends?
17:09 huginn         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans
17:09 slef           @query libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl
16:12 nengard        see ya!
16:11 paul_p         for me it's family time now ! see you tomorrow #koha !
16:10 paul_p         yep
16:10 nengard        in the DB
16:10 nengard        and it's the subscription table
16:10 nengard        found
16:10 nengard        that's what i foudn
16:10 nengard        thanks
16:10 paul_p         nengard they aren't duplicated
16:07 nengard        figured it out i think :)
16:02 nengard        subscription I assume
16:02 nengard        they aren't duplciated? or they are? and what table does it look for fields in?
16:02 nengard        what happens to the fields I put in there?
16:02 nengard        the description isn't clear to me
16:02 nengard        question about new SubscriptionDuplicateDroppedInput  preference (I know I can test-  but thought I'd ask first)
15:48 nengard        thanks!
15:45 gmcharlt       nengard: right - in that case, definitely revert, then push
15:44 slef           :)
15:44 wahanui        i think TMTOWTDI is there's more than one way to do it
15:44 slef           wahanui: TMTOWTDI?
15:44 nengard        i broke the manual :)
15:44 gmcharlt       now if you're talking about revert a commit in a branch that you've published -- then do it via git revert
15:44 nengard        even if the commit has been pushed?
15:44 wizzyrea       didn't know about revert, thanks gmcharlt :)
15:43 wizzyrea       worse, really
15:43 gmcharlt       in other words, Git is actually Perl - TMTOWTDI
15:43 * wizzyrea     was going to suggest git checkout <file>, but that would be similar to a reset hard.
15:43 paul_p         and if you want to discard all git reset --hard HEAD^
15:42 kf             if you want to keep te changes you could do a git reset --soft HEAD^
15:42 gmcharlt       to revert the entire last commit
15:42 gmcharlt       nengard: git revert HEAD
15:42 wizzyrea       on one file?
15:41 nengard        how do revert the last commit?
15:41 nengard        git help please :)
15:41 wizzyrea       paul_p: I think that happens only on the newest updated 3M software
15:37 slef           paul_p: will need to wait for me to be on site and have time
15:37 slef           ah I've already been breaking papa's balls on one bug. I think I will look for easy ones next !
15:37 paul_p         slef not at all ! you can help by testing if your GB self checkout still work after applying the patch or not. that's the question I want to have an answer to for now.
15:36 paul_p         a few of them being tricky, and waiting since more than 2 months
15:36 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7619 blocker, P2, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , 3M self checkout don't work in France
15:36 slef           I can't help with bug 7619 because I am in the wrong country ;)
15:36 paul_p         yep. 83 !
15:36 slef           paul_p: and the link to Needs Signoff is in the footer of http://bugs.koha-community.org/
15:32 paul_p         passed QA list => Zarro bugs found ! signed-off list => 5 bugs found ! we need ppl signoff to feed the QA team & RM :D :D ...
15:08 mbalmer        slef, I guess for most function calls we can either find a neutral form, and if not, we add it to C4::DBQ.
14:54 chris_n        bad habit they have there
14:54 chris_n        oleonard: LOL
14:52 kf             I was scared I would have to fiddle around with substrings and the like
14:52 kf             and so easy
14:52 kf             it works very nicely :)
14:51 kf             slef++
14:50 oleonard       I've found the mysql docs to be full of mysqlisms
14:48 kf             and it doesn't like that
14:48 kf             we have a mix of - and /
14:48 kf             to make the barcode autogeneration work
14:48 slef           (quite rightly)
14:48 kf             slef: no, only need it to clean up some barcodes
14:47 kf             missing the obvious again
14:47 slef           ;)
14:47 slef           kf: if you're coding, mbalmer will tell you off if that's a mysqlism
14:47 slef           mysql manual is http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/index.html
14:47 kf             :)
14:47 kf             thx
14:47 kf             aha
14:46 slef           kf: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/string-functions.html#function_replace
14:45 kf             slef: yes, but was thinking about a function perhaps
14:45 reiveune       bye
14:45 wizzyrea       but not too far south
14:45 wizzyrea       ^.^
14:45 wizzyrea       sorry, go south
14:45 slef           mysql manual?
14:45 kf             wizzyrea: it's cold in the north!
14:45 kf             I need an sql to replace / with - in a couple of barcodes
14:44 wizzyrea       go north
14:44 kf             can someone point me in the right direction?
14:43 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib
14:43 slef           bug 7613
14:43 slef           done
14:41 wizzyrea       yep, I think that merits a signoff.
14:40 slef           I think I'll signoff
14:39 slef           on further inspection, the bug isn't introduced by the enh... it's an older bug, merely exposed by it
14:37 slef           I don't know if the followup would be done pre-release
14:37 * jcamins_away actually leaves.
14:36 wizzyrea       I use it as a "what they said" mechanism
14:36 * jcamins_away was trying to point at wizzyrea's question.
14:35 * slef         wonders why jcamins_away underlined "on" for him ;)
14:35 jcamins_away   ^^
14:35 slef           depends on the root cause
14:35 wizzyrea       and that the followup would be done before release?
14:35 wizzyrea       you think it would be easy to fix in a followup?
14:35 slef           it's a really really nice enh
14:34 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib
14:34 slef           bug 7613
14:34 wizzyrea       which bug slef?
14:34 slef           jcamins_away: every record numbered 0 instead of 1, 2, 3, ...  Doesn't seem to have a practical effect.
14:34 jcamins_away   slef: depends how bad it is.
14:33 slef           do I withhold a signoff for a cosmetic problem on an enh?
14:33 * wizzyrea     is righteously annoyed by this fact.
14:33 * wizzyrea     can't believe that windows doesn't natively untar things
14:32 wizzyrea       oh I know right.
14:32 * jcamins      heads over to the old apartment for almost the last time.
14:30 slef           gmcharlt: as in: hey now hey now, don't dream it's over?
14:29 gmcharlt       wizzyrea: hey now! ;)
14:25 libsysguy      ok, I'm creating the ticket now
14:25 wizzyrea       :P
14:25 wizzyrea       ffs evergreen does it.
14:25 wizzyrea       libsysguy: I'd say submit it
14:23 libsysguy      i just wanted to make sure if I submitted it I wouldn't get smacked down to the bottom of bugzilla :p
14:23 libsysguy      hourly**
14:22 libsysguy      for hourly its a super useful tool for horuly
14:22 jcamins        I certainly noticed the lack immediately when I started using Koha.
14:22 jcamins        I'm not surprised.
14:22 libsysguy      apparently it was a popular feature
14:22 libsysguy      I've been getting complaints all morning about instant fine calculation being gone :'(
14:21 libsysguy      jcamins, wizzyrea thanks for looking over it :)
14:21 jcamins        :)
14:21 jcamins        Aside from all the work I just added to your plate, though, looks good!
14:21 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 7835 - submit and cancel buttons on diff lines on notices
14:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add ability to suspend reserves.
14:21 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: bug 7641 follow-up: remove some unconditionnal warns
14:21 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: bug 7641 follow-up: activate use strict (see coding guidelines)
14:21 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: bug 7641 follow-up DBRev number
14:21 jenkins_koha   * kyle: Bug 7641: Suspend Reserves
14:21 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #688: UNSTABLE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/688/
14:21 tcohen         jcamins: thanks
14:20 libsysguy      my poor 13" screen misses some things
14:20 libsysguy      yeah for sure
14:20 jcamins        Hm, in that case you'll want to use that dark gray.
14:20 libsysguy      I haven't gotten around to building a footer yet
14:20 wizzyrea       oh yea def set the background on the body tag.
14:20 libsysguy      ugh I know…I think it is the opac credits
14:19 libsysguy      I had to model it after this http://www.uttyler.edu/
14:19 jcamins        There's an unsightly bar at the bottom.
14:19 wizzyrea       it's purty :)
14:19 jcamins        Yeah.
14:19 libsysguy      I have that problem at work too
14:19 libsysguy      on say larger screen resolutions
14:19 libsysguy      oh for when the picture runs out?
14:18 jcamins        And you might want to set the background on the body tag to match that darker tannish color.
14:18 libsysguy      apparently the way it is now is an old way
14:18 libsysguy      but I have to wander back off into the wiki to find out how to do syspref additions again
14:18 libsysguy      but i am working on rebasing my patch
14:18 libsysguy      umm those got killed in the great rebase to master
14:17 jcamins        And what happened to your nice two-line availability display?
14:17 libsysguy      jcamins, agreed
14:17 jcamins        And, for that matter, the "Log in to add tags" line.
14:17 * slef         wanders off back into the git tree, muttering about these damned merkins breaking the language
14:17 oleonard       Looks really nice libsysguy
14:17 jcamins        libsysguy: you should remove the "Actions" line.
14:17 libsysguy      slef, it would just calculate when AddReturn got called
14:16 oleonard       Whatever.
14:16 slef           oleonard: I think you mean usually, not normally.
14:16 Oak            coool. worked.
14:16 libsysguy      oleonard: I meant to show you my new opac customizations http://catalog.uttyler.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=lasers
14:16 jcamins        However, if it really is completely minimal, it'd certainly be useful.
14:16 jcamins        Yeah, I'd want to be very sure that it had minimal impact on performance.
14:15 slef           libsysguy: what happens if the same patron checks in two books at the same moment?
14:15 wizzyrea       ;)
14:15 wizzyrea       if it's not that big of a deal then sure, go ahead.
14:15 wizzyrea       I did, but only because of performance issues
14:15 oleonard       "What a general public patron would normally expect to see in a library catalog"
14:15 * wizzyrea     considers them "the sucky" and "not sucky" view
14:15 libsysguy      year**
14:15 slef           I think it's an HLT legacy view BICBW
14:15 jcamins        libsysguy: I think that's a great idea, personally.
14:15 libsysguy      i think wizzyrea had some apprehension toward it when I brought it up about a yeah ago
14:14 wizzyrea       what does it mean, actually?
14:14 wizzyrea       yes, i think so.
14:14 jcamins        slef: it is very much misnamed.
14:14 slef           anyone else think "normal" view is a bit misnamed? Or does it follow a norm that I've not noticed?
14:14 libsysguy      but since you're not doing it for all items, its very VERY nominal
14:14 Oak            thank you!
14:14 Oak            okay got it.
14:13 libsysguy      heh slef you might see a .0001 s knock in checkin performance
14:13 slef           Oak: enable XSLT or ISBD display and edit the stylesheet or template if it's not shown?
14:13 wizzyrea       it doesn't show that in xslt view?
14:13 libsysguy      in addition to running it nightly/whenever so patrons can still see their fines
14:13 Oak            how do I display edition of a book in opac normal view?
14:13 slef           libsysguy: what's the down side?  Race conditions?
14:12 libsysguy      soliciting thoughts: instant fine calculation on checkin?
14:12 jcamins        That is so cool!
14:12 wahanui        :) is ok
14:12 slef           :)?
14:11 wahanui        thanks slef :)
14:11 slef           wahanui: have a lethal botsnack
14:11 wahanui        slef: what?
14:11 slef           wahanui: die!
14:11 * slef         kills wahanui
14:11 wahanui        slef: i don't know
14:11 slef           wahanui: git gr?
14:11 jcamins        I test that everything's working as intended, then upload and install to my production servers.
14:11 slef           wahanui: git gr is gr = log --graph --full-history --all --color --pretty=tformat:"%x1b[31m%h%x09%x1b[32m%x1b[0m%x20%s%x20%x1b[33m(%an)%x1b[0m" in the [alias] section of .gitconfig
14:11 wahanui        slef: sorry...
14:11 slef           wahanui: you suck
14:11 wahanui        bugger all, i dunno, slef
14:11 slef           wahanui: git gr?
14:11 slef           git gr is gr = log --graph --full-history --all --color --pretty=tformat:"%x1b[31m%h%x09%x1b[32m%x1b[0m%x20%s%x20%x1b[33m(%an)%x1b[0m" in the [alias] section of .gitconfig
14:10 jcamins        I push my 3.6.x-based changes to that repo, build the packages, and then deploy to a third system, which is my staging server.
14:10 jcamins        git gr?
14:10 wahanui        slef: bugger all, i dunno
14:10 slef           wahanui: git gr?
14:10 slef           jcamins: do you have git gr configured?
14:10 jcamins        I have another system which does not run Koha at all, just has the git repo for packaging.
14:10 tcohen         so you do your work locally
14:09 jcamins        That one has a gazillion branches, and is usually on Master.
14:09 jcamins        I have one system I do all my development on.
14:09 jcamins        My setup might be considered a bit Byzantine.
14:09 tcohen         i mean, the 3.6.x branch?
14:09 tcohen         do u push master against your git?
14:09 tcohen         and how do you maintain your git repo in sync?
14:08 jcamins        I roll my own packages, based on 3.6.x, but with additional patches merged in.
14:08 tcohen         thanks jcamins, i'll try that way
14:08 jcamins        I use packages exclusively for production.
14:08 jcamins        Yes.
14:07 tcohen         packages are suitable for multi-site deploys, right?
14:06 tcohen         jcamins: that's a good advise
14:05 jcamins        Roll your own packages for installing on production if you have customizations.
14:05 jcamins        That's a bad idea. Much better to use packages for production. For your own work, much better to use git.
14:04 jcamins        (using a dev install for production)
14:04 jcamins        I thought you were talking about the latter option.
14:04 jcamins        tcohen: sorry, I misunderstood what you wanted.
14:04 tcohen         if they sell and maintain customizations
14:04 tcohen         i suppose some vendors use some kind of dev install for their customers...
14:02 wizzyrea       that's really the best guide
14:02 wahanui        somebody said version control using git was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
14:02 wizzyrea       version control using git
14:02 wizzyrea       almost everyone does - for dev.
14:02 tcohen         does anyone use a dev install against a git checkout?
14:00 tcohen         i mean, we need to use git, locally
13:59 tcohen         and would like to maintain some of our customisations in our dev git repo
13:58 tcohen         suppose we already use git for every project here at the university
13:58 jcamins        tcohen: yes. git is not.
13:57 tcohen         never used them
13:57 tcohen         r they suitable for production already?
13:56 chris_n        use packages
13:56 chris_n        tcohen: what he said
13:56 jcamins        tcohen: don't use git for production.
13:56 chris_n        maybe photons really can exceed the speed of light, heh?
13:56 tcohen         i'd like it to follow 3.6.x
13:55 chris_n        complete with flames
13:55 wizzyrea       that's amazing.
13:55 wizzyrea       holy crap
13:55 tcohen         can anyone give me some explanation of a proper my-own-git setup for a production server?
13:55 wizzyrea       oooh
13:55 chris_n        heya tcohen
13:54 chris_n        your folks should love that one
13:54 chris_n        wizzyrea ^^
13:54 tcohen         hi #koha
13:54 chris_n        massive is an understatement
13:54 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , get_batch_summary massive speedup
13:54 chris_n        dpavlin++ # for bug 7846
13:44 chris_n        well, I thought you could use it to be in europe and n america at once ;-)
13:44 wizzyrea       chris_n: busy busy eh?
13:43 wizzyrea       shorter if you fly :P
13:43 wizzyrea       but that's "road distance"
13:43 wizzyrea       from google
13:42 wizzyrea       I got 1 749
13:42 jcamins        Heh. Only 70km difference.
13:42 * magnus_afk   takes the dogs for a walk
13:42 magnus_afk     http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=distance+from+athens%2C+ohio+to+plano%2C+texas
13:42 magnus_afk     1488km
13:42 * chris_n      looks around for the space-time continuum warping module
13:41 jcamins        That was weird.
13:41 wizzyrea       athens ohio
13:41 jcamins        Okay...
13:41 wizzyrea       how far from athens to plano texas?
13:41 jcamins        I can't seem to change my nick.
13:41 jcamins        Finally!
13:41 jcamins        This is odd.
13:41 jcamins_away   Hehe.
13:41 magnus_afk     according to wolfram alpha the distance from bodø to edinburgh is 1558 km
13:41 macphisto      hi! i plan too for the kohacon.There's a meeting in Paris in May for the french users (a colleague gave me the news yesterday) and it will be my first kohacon
13:40 kf             bbl
13:40 kf             ok, gone again
13:40 wizzyrea       no I like the continent rule
13:40 chris_n        right now they're all big kf :-)
13:40 wizzyrea       well a "can't travel to europe but still want to have a koha hackfest in the US at or near the same time" thing.
13:40 kf             big one?
13:40 kf             lol
13:39 * chris_n      hears a big splash in his pool of assigned bugs
13:39 magnus_afk     or the continent "rule"?
13:39 magnus_afk     the pity party?
13:39 kf             do we have to? :(
13:39 wizzyrea       we really ought to make that sort of official.
13:38 magnus_afk     but it's hardly europe's turn again...
13:38 * jcamins_away is planning on going to Lawrence for the "no KohaCon for you" pity party this year.
13:38 magnus_afk     fine by me!
13:38 wizzyrea       sure why not :)
13:38 * oleonard     votes for Croatia too!
13:38 kf             I would like croatia :)
13:38 magnus_afk     yes please!
13:37 wizzyrea       y'all can come down to lawrence :P
13:37 * oleonard     plans a pity-party for all the non-KohaCon-goers
13:37 magnus_afk     yay!
13:37 * wizzyrea     has a passport and (funds permitting) isn't afraid to use it
13:37 wizzyrea       that would be cool
13:37 wizzyrea       maybe it will be mexico city
13:36 wizzyrea       :D me too.
13:36 wizzyrea       and takes it for granted, all at the same time
13:36 * oleonard     is glad he took the chance or he wouldn't have met wizzyrea in person
13:36 * wizzyrea     forgets how huge the US is
13:36 wizzyrea       actually, probably about the same distance
13:36 * magnus_afk   is very curious about if and where there will be a kohacon13...
13:36 wizzyrea       but he was only in texas :P
13:36 oleonard       Yup, I took the chance :)
13:35 * wizzyrea     recalls oleonard being at kohacon09 with a baby due in the next... several weeks?
13:35 magnus_afk     oleonard: there will be more opportunities
13:35 * kf           passes the paper tissues
13:35 * magnus_afk   sniffs too
13:35 magnus_afk     we're having a baby - it's due on june 26th, but i better stick around at home :-)
13:35 * kf           sniffs
13:35 * wizzyrea     won't be there either :(
13:35 oleonard       Me neither, so at least I'm not missing another opportunity to meet you in person.
13:34 magnus_afk     nope, sorry
13:34 oleonard       magnus_afk: Will you be at KohaCon?
13:33 magnus_afk     kf++
13:33 jenkins_koha   Starting build #688 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:33 kf             hope they are understandable
13:33 kf             oh
13:33 oleonard       I'm staring to go through them finally
13:33 oleonard       kf++ # for taking notes for me during my talk on staff client interface patterns
13:32 magnus_afk     oleonard++
13:32 kf             oleonard++
13:30 oleonard       Whew, it had been too long since I had a patch pushed. I was starting to get the shakes.
13:28 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7835 - submit and cancel buttons on diff lines on notices <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb3dc448d2378e01a524d082fc6389484b0cc7d8> / bug 7641 follow-up: remove some unconditionnal warns <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a44448bfb4a46c069889319136bece143841dbc> / bug 7641 follow-up: activate use strict (see coding guidelines) <http://git.koha-community.org
12:39 marcelr        ok, not qa-ing for now
12:38 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add ability to suspend reserves.
12:38 paul_p         marcelr i'm on bug 7641 now (that has some trivial conflicts)
12:34 liw            rangi, obnam on ppc: awesome
12:33 gmcharlt       paul_p: yes
12:32 paul_p         (for now, i'm QAing & pushing...)
12:32 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records
12:32 paul_p         gmcharlt will you be available in a few hours, I may want to speak with you of your bug 7818
12:30 gmcharlt       hi paul_p
12:30 paul_p         good morning oleonard & gmcharlt
12:23 gmcharlt       hi marcelr
12:21 marcelr        hi oleonard gmcharlt
12:21 oleonard       Hi #koha
12:18 gmcharlt       slef: indeed not; best wishes for a speedy recovery
12:16 slef           gmcharlt: or actually, the disk has been replaced once (yay RAID) after tests by the hardware supplier but now it's dying again, so maybe it's something else. Not much fun.
12:15 slef           gmcharlt: server throwing a disk slowly
12:15 gmcharlt       slef: oh dear ... what happened?
12:14 slef           gmcharlt: no, not really ;) Hope yours is better
12:14 gmcharlt       good morning
11:56 hdl            hope you're fine.
11:51 BobB           hi hdl  :)
11:51 huginn         hdl: The operation succeeded.
11:51 hdl            @later tell eythian happy birthday
11:50 hdl            hi BobB
11:22 huginn         BobB: The operation succeeded.
11:22 BobB           @later tell slef to check his email re kohacon12 letter
11:14 BobB           slef: ping
11:13 huginn         BobB: slef was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 47 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <slef> paul_p: I resent the items=1 reply
11:13 BobB           @seen slef
11:05 Oak            thank you magnus_lunch !
10:52 Safwan83       any*
10:52 Safwan83       i have a question plz sombdy answear me...ay Koha community member around?
10:51 Safwan83       anyone here?
10:50 Safwan83       hey
10:43 magnuse        Oak: http://irspy.indexdata.com/
10:35 kmkale         Oak: Not that I am aware of
10:33 Oak            kmkale, any Z39.50 server from India I can use for importing MARC records for management sciences LPE books?
10:32 paul_p         and it's time to head for lunch... brb
10:32 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7291 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , claims management improvement
10:32 paul_p         marcelr same thing for bug 7291
10:30 kmkale         Happy birthday eythian :)
10:17 marcelr        paul_p: saw it
10:16 paul_p         marcelr = I've QAed 4032, but as it's a BibLibre patch, I haven't set "passed QA" status. If you can have a look at it...
10:06 Oak            good. okay.
10:06 magnuse        yeah sure, you don't have to use it
10:05 Oak            manually
10:05 Oak            but it's okay to skip configuring/using it if the client want to do acquisitions the way they like to do...
10:05 magnuse        success! woohoo!
10:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7701 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Error when sending serial alerts
10:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority search results should optionally be sorted by system order
10:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7537 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT
10:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7436 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE
10:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4819 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ID attribute to certain areas of OPAC so jquery can be used to hide them
10:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7485 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add
10:05 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 7701: Error when sending serial alerts
10:05 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 7617: Sort authority results by authid
10:05 jenkins_koha   * magnus: Bug 7537 - Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT
10:05 jenkins_koha   * magnus: Bug 7436 - Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE
10:05 jenkins_koha   * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 4819: Add ids to OPAC detail page
10:05 jenkins_koha   * kyle: Bug 7485 - Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add
10:05 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #687: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/687/
10:03 magnuse        and some of kf's customers
10:03 Oak            hmm
10:03 magnuse        biblibre has done some development on it, so probably a number of their customers
10:03 magnuse        but i think there are a fair number that do
10:02 magnuse        Oak: impossible to tell specific numbers...
10:01 Oak            do many libraries use the Koha acquisition module?
09:59 macphisto      see you soon :-)
09:57 Oak            :)
09:57 magnuse        yay!
09:57 Oak            magnuse
09:57 magnuse        Oak
09:57 Oak            kia ora #koha
09:26 slef           paul_p: I resent the items=1 reply
09:25 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7701: Error when sending serial alerts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=98c59fc3577b5904fc980781ce805bff875b157f> / Bug 7617: Sort authority results by authid <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=937480abe03863215c8134e67f56e1b968aaf229> / Bug 7537 - Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?
09:24 macphisto      bonjour
09:23 paul_p         bonjour samuel ( macphisto )
09:18 jenkins_koha   Starting build #687 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:09 * slef         does the change-email-address shuffle
09:08 slef           argh bugzilla silently discards emails if it doesn't recognise the sender? :(
09:07 macphisto      cool
09:03 rangi          maybe at your school in a few years too :)
09:03 rangi          ahhh
09:02 macphisto      ok, before, i work at the Ecole Nationale des Chartes (where koha run :-))
09:02 rangi          we were at ecole des mines
09:01 rangi          cool
09:01 rangi          ahhh
09:01 macphisto      i work for this school http://www.ecp.fr/lang/en/homepage
08:59 * rangi        was last there in 2006 for kohacon
08:55 macphisto      yes
08:54 rangi          paris?
08:54 rangi          macphisto: where in france are you?
08:47 macphisto      ok
08:44 rangi          and just hand over admin .. but I dont know .. a possibility maybe
08:43 rangi          it might be that fredericd will want to continue to host the pootle instance
08:42 rangi          the rest is mostly answering questions, and you have kf to help with that :) she knows a lot about how the translations work
08:42 rangi          then before each release, you need to commit the updated .po files
08:41 rangi          at the start
08:41 rangi          yep, the main bit of time would be in setting up a pootle instance
08:41 macphisto      to be involved is a good idea but it takes many time, it 's sure. As librarian system, i know there's many ways to help the project
08:40 rangi          but maybe not, cant find it
08:38 rangi          i think there is one i did for 3.2 too
08:38 rangi          cool
08:36 macphisto      yes, it's me who has just added my name on the wiki. The link is a good summary of the position
08:35 kf_mtg         it would be :)
08:35 kf_mtg         bbl
08:35 rangi          i can write a quick email if ppl think that would be useful
08:35 kf             meeting
08:34 rangi          maybe show him http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translation_Manager_for_3.4_Proposal
08:33 rangi          true
08:33 kf             I think people are not sure what it involves
08:33 kf             or a descripton about translation manager in general
08:33 kf             hm yes
08:32 rangi          i guess we might need to ask him to write up a quick proposal
08:31 rangi          hi macphisto
08:31 macphisto      hi everybody!
08:30 kf             i was not aware that he is in france until now
08:30 kf             and wrote some bugs
08:30 mbalmer        only from the mail he sent.
08:30 kf             I think he was on the chan
08:30 rangi          anyone know samuel desseaux ?
08:24 magnuse        hehe
08:24 mbalmer        the latter.  but I was not 100% serious..
08:23 magnuse        mbalmer: importing tweets into the opac or pushing news items out to twitter?
08:18 mbalmer        twitter integration!
08:18 magnuse        i can at least create a bug for it
08:18 kf             you should do that then :)
08:17 magnuse        huh, no-one ever thought about making the news items in koha available as RSS?
07:44 paul_p         marcelr = OK, i'll report what i'm working on here then
07:43 marcelr        paul_p: i don't know yet
07:40 paul_p         unfortunatly, the QAed ones are the easy ones.
07:40 kf             please don't qa on biblibre patches
07:40 magnuse        paul_p++
07:40 paul_p         hey... some patches have passed QA during the night :D
07:40 kf             paul_p: I have a request
07:39 paul_p         I plan to work on QA/push all today, so maybe we should/could coordinate if you plan to
07:39 paul_p         marcelr any plan to do some QA today ?
07:38 magnuse        bonjour paul_p
07:38 paul_p         hi kf & magnuse
07:38 marcelr        hi kf again
07:34 kf             hi #koha
07:19 marcelr        hi joubu
07:16 Joubu          hello !
07:16 alex_a         bonjour magnuse
07:16 magnuse        happy birthday eythian
07:16 magnuse        hiya gaetan_B marcelr alex_a
07:16 alex_a         happy birthday eythian
07:16 alex_a         ah ?
07:15 marcelr        hi magnuse gaetan_B
07:15 gaetan_B       happy birthday eythian ! ;)
07:14 gaetan_B       hello #koha
07:13 magnuse        kia ora #koha!
07:06 wahanui        hello, asaurat
07:06 asaurat        hi
07:00 paul_p         ih marcelr
07:00 marcelr        hi paul_p
06:56 paul_p         good morning #koha
06:48 marcelr        hi alex_a
06:43 alex_a         hi rangi, cait and marcelr
06:41 cait           hi reiveune :)
06:40 marcelr        hi reiveune
06:40 reiveune       hi rangi marcelr cait and everybody :)
06:40 marcelr        hi rangi
06:40 rangi          and alex_a and reiveune
06:40 cait           marcelr: working on a fix for the serial subscription alert... or trying to
06:39 rangi          hi marcelr
06:39 marcelr        hi cait
06:39 cait           hi marcelr :)
06:38 marcelr        hello koha
06:35 reiveune       hello
06:33 alex_a         bonjour
06:06 rangi          liw: pleased to report obnam 0.26 is working fine on this ppc
05:47 Amit_Gupta     heya bag
05:33 Brooke         liw++
05:33 Brooke         aye liw
05:33 liw            there's a whole movie based on Ms. Hepburn and Mr. Peck looking good on a scooter
05:33 Brooke         but cats seem near mandatory
05:33 Brooke         dogs are half optional
05:33 Brooke         it's like Librarians + Cats.
05:32 Brooke         certainly a meme for that methinks
05:31 Brooke         the old man is like "Italian women look great on em."
05:31 rangi          its almost the law
05:31 rangi          ruby on rails
05:31 Brooke         I grunted, cause I have a few ideas of me own.
05:31 Brooke         and the little mister was like "Meh, why do they sell those, no one looks good on them."
05:31 Brooke         a few Thanksgivings back, we passed a scooter dealer.
05:30 cait           lol
05:30 Brooke         did I tell you what my Da said to Tom?
05:30 Brooke         XD
05:30 rangi          skip ruby, or ill have to buy him a vespa and ironic tshirts
05:29 rangi          then maybe we'll jump to go :)
05:29 rangi          well ill start with logo
05:28 rangi          :)
05:28 * liw          votes for Python ;-)
05:28 * Brooke       votes for TuxRacer
05:28 rangi          MemTotal:         635416 kB
05:27 Brooke         600 seems an odd amount of ram. Didn't it used to be 512ish?
05:27 rangi          then it will be a perfectly decent gcompris, kidsplay box for kahu
05:27 * Brooke       nods.
05:27 rangi          also with 600MB ram, taking things out of the kernel it doesnt use/need doesnt hurt too
05:26 Brooke         almost burnt me lap at one point
05:26 rangi          so playing around to see if i can get it behave a bit nicer
05:26 Brooke         those little guys get hot, too
05:26 Brooke         yeah
05:26 rangi          but the sleep/hibernate is a bit dicy
05:25 rangi          i inherited an old ibook 2.2 that was going to just leach toxic waste into the landfill, purged all the proprietary crap off it and got debian on it
05:25 Brooke         heh, wouldn't put it past him
05:25 rangi          partially :)
05:25 liw            rangi, are you compiling your own kernel in order to get a fix for fan control? :)
05:24 Brooke         it *is* beer o' clock...
05:24 cait           the ithing again?
05:24 Brooke         are we cheering for or against the fire?
05:24 rangi          compiling too
05:24 rangi          i wonder if this computer will catch fire before the kernel finishes compliting
05:21 cait           evening rangi
05:21 rangi          hi cait
05:21 Brooke         morning cait :D
05:21 cait           and happy birthday eythian :)
05:21 cait           morning #koha
05:20 Brooke         no problem!
05:20 Brooke         unburdened?
05:20 Brooke         and I was like orlly
05:20 Brooke         yeah, I was just talking about a 50/20 at fencing
05:20 rangi          bugger that for a joke
05:20 rangi          . The final exercise is a 60-kilometre endurance march, carrying a 35 kg pack, web gear and rifle, to be completed in under 20 hours
05:20 Brooke         that I knew had at very least a kernel of truth
05:19 Brooke         cause the guy was telling some pretty good stories
05:19 Brooke         and was like you need to talk to these 2 people
05:19 Brooke         yeah I was at a gathering the other day
05:19 rangi          helped getting access to the defense records of WWII soldiers
05:18 rangi          my maori oral history lecturer was ex SAS
05:18 Brooke         <.<
05:18 Brooke         >.>
05:17 rangi          not where they are
05:17 rangi          you only know where they were
05:17 rangi          thats how the SAS roll
05:17 rangi          i think we pulled the engineers out now, i think only one sas unit left .. but they will never confirm nor deny that fact
05:15 rangi          and timor peace keepers etc
05:15 Brooke         mm hmm
05:15 rangi          building bridges et al
05:15 rangi          there were engineers in iraq, and afghanistan
05:15 rangi          we just dont get to shoot back
05:15 rangi          oh we get shot at a lot
05:14 Brooke         Standing guard + Neutral country = posh job
05:14 Brooke         one of the local magazines awarded that lot a case of suds once. Between them. XD
05:13 Brooke         similar combat readiness to the proper Irish Army, imo.
05:13 rangi          :)
05:13 rangi          or an orion
05:13 rangi          we could crash a hercules at you
05:13 rangi          and we dont even have a strike force in the airforce anymore
05:12 rangi          the nz army mostly goes round rebuilding stuff everyone else blew up these days
05:11 liw            :)
05:11 rangi          and i guarantee theres no 17 year olds in the SAS :)
05:10 rangi          nz army hasnt fired a shot in combat in years
05:10 liw            they're almost as good as libraries that allow you to read books for free
05:10 rangi          apart from the SAS
05:10 liw            I like armies that aren't allowed to shoot people
05:09 rangi          its not like they deploy cadets, or they are allowed to shoot people
05:09 rangi          yes cadets
05:08 Brooke         just sayin'
05:08 Brooke         http://www.cadetforces.mil.nz/join/default.htm
05:08 rangi          or be a chef
05:08 rangi          you can drive a truck at 17 too
05:07 rangi          you can apply at 17.5 tho
05:07 rangi          they wont take an officer recruit until 18
05:07 rangi          or electronic warfare
05:07 rangi          not for officers they wont
05:07 rangi          and yes you can be a rifleman recruit at 17
05:07 Brooke         right, but they'll take you at 17.
05:07 liw            (I did my military service in .fi mostly doing dishes)
05:06 Brooke         good dishwashers are in short supply anywhere
05:06 rangi          Brooke: depends on the role if you read further
05:06 Brooke         roflmao
05:06 liw            I'm sure the NZ forces are happy to take on 17-year-olds to do dishes until they grow up :P
05:05 Brooke         it's 17 to join. http://www.defencecareers.mil.nz/army/joining-up/am-i-eligible
05:04 rangi          as a recruit
05:04 rangi          if you want to be electronic warfare, they wont even take you at less than 19
05:03 rangi          Judit: and its against the law, no different to farmers or anyone else who has a rifle
05:02 * rangi        spent a signficant amount of time in the defense building working in the archives when at uni
05:02 Judit          if you have a rifle you can shoot anyone- evenif you dont have a permisson  to do so
05:02 rangi          they dont want officers younger than 19
05:02 rangi          and you have to be 19 by the time you graduate
05:02 rangi          they wont take you
05:02 rangi          no
05:02 Brooke         or spousal.
05:01 Brooke         without parental consent
05:01 rangi          if you want to be an officer, you can apply at 17.5 but cant enlist until you are 18
04:59 rangi          you can handle a rifle just fine, you just arent allowed to use it
04:59 rangi          you cant shoot someone
04:59 * Brooke       remembers being in the pit with a pimple faced kid.
04:58 Brooke         doesn't say you can't handle a rifle.
04:58 rangi          doesnt matter where
04:58 rangi          ydo you cant be deployed
04:58 Brooke         no, you can't shoot an enemy beyond your borders until 18.
04:57 rangi          you cant shoot someone until you are 18
04:57 rangi          so you can be in the army when you are 17
04:57 rangi          yep, you cant be deployed until you are 18
04:57 Brooke         granted, our shenanigans let us ship out like 14 year olds. Highly unlikely that'll occur, but it *is* possible.
04:56 Brooke         http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/publisher,CSCOAL,,NZL,498805ddc,0.html
04:55 rangi          its 18 for both
04:54 Brooke         but not old enough to knock back a pint.
04:54 Brooke         You're old enough to shoot someone in service to your flag
04:54 Brooke         NZ has the same dumb thing going on with law that we do
04:54 Brooke         feh
04:51 * Brooke       ducks the rotten tomatoes.
04:51 Brooke         if someone can see over the bar, it's all good.
04:51 Brooke         fah, Kiwis are like the Irish
04:51 Judit          no beer for him then
04:50 Judit          17 :)
04:49 Brooke         what is he, 17 now?
04:49 * Brooke       hands eythian a beer.
04:49 Brooke         orlly
04:48 bag            well happy birthday eythian
04:45 Brooke         o/
04:42 * rangi        is compiling a kernel for the first time in about 8 years
04:35 liw            eythian, have fun
04:34 * eythian      is off home. Got to go sign a lease, pay bond, pay deposit, etc.
04:34 rangi          ahhh :) hope round 2 goes better :)
04:34 liw            rangi, yeah, interrupted sleep and going back to bed in a bit
04:33 rangi          you are awake early liw
04:31 eythian        liw: yeah, those do come up a bit
04:31 eythian        liw: dankjewel
04:31 liw            eythian, hyvää syntymäpäivää!
04:31 rangi          ah yes
04:31 eythian        rangi: also the Hungaustralians.
04:31 rangi          yep
04:31 liw            I seem to occasionally notice discussions along the lines of "the packages do what for me? oh, that's nice, I didn't know that", so spreading that knowlege around sounds like a win
04:30 rangi          yep, magnuse and jcamins
04:30 eythian        ...
04:29 eythian        So far I know of two or three others around here who are regularly building their own Koha packages for use.
04:29 eythian        OK cool, not a bad idea then.
04:29 liw            eythian, I think it might be welcome :) I am going to offer to give a generic Debian packaging tutorial (a repeat of the one I gave on my last day at Catalyst), during the hackfest
04:27 eythian        liw: probably, possibly. I haven't had time to sit down and think up a talk topic yet. It's one entry on my severely overgrown todo list at the moment.
04:26 liw            eythian, are you going to offer to present on how the Koha .debs work and the various helpful things they can do for you, at Kohacon?
04:15 eythian        cheers, cya
04:15 mtj            hope the move goes smoove-azz, eythian
04:14 bag            late mason
04:14 bag            heh
04:14 mtj            ok, gotta scoot guys
04:14 eythian        that one is very good.
04:14 mtj            even reading that, makes me feel slightly wobbly :p
04:13 mtj            pours brendan a glass of Coronado Stoopid Stout (9.4% ABV)
04:12 eythian        mtj: it came out on tuesday. That was ages ago.
04:12 mtj            figures... you've been there, done that... :)
04:12 bag            :D
04:12 bag            sounds good about now
04:12 bag            ummm BEER!!!
04:12 eythian        though, the Caronado wit beer is very very strange.
04:11 mtj            meh, next time then :)
04:11 eythian        it's not bad.
04:10 mtj            2 coranados and a green-flash :p
04:10 eythian        mtj: yeah, I'm moving flat tomorrow though, need to finish packing tonight.
04:10 mtj            http://hashigozake.co.nz/beerlist.html
04:10 mtj            eythian: some impressive beer on-tap at HZ at the mo :)
03:34 Brooke         Zoia arranges cagematches :P
03:32 wahanui        OK, eythian.
03:32 eythian        wahanui: do you want to play a game is <reply>Global thermonuclear war? My favourite!
03:32 eythian        you're the violent one here, clearly.
03:32 Judit          :D
03:31 Brooke         typical. 2 male bots outperformed by one female bot. ;)
03:31 Brooke         wahanui help @fight
03:31 huginn         Brooke: Error: There is no command "@fight".
03:31 Brooke         huginn help @fight
02:55 Brooke         o/
02:53 eythian        :)
02:52 mhussey        Have a great evening!
02:51 eythian        no problem
02:51 mhussey        This is the first class I have taken about code and creating web pages, and although I'm not very god at it yet, I find this fascinating.  Thanks so much!  What you've told me is perfect!
02:50 eythian        so it can range from zero cost (except the servers to run it on) if you do it all yourself, or more depending on which you choose to pay for.
02:49 mhussey        Ah - that is exactly what I am looking for.  I am very new to all of this, so I wasn't even sure what to ask for.  Thank you!
02:49 eythian        and if you are a programmer, you don't have to pay someone for customisation as you can do it yourself.
02:48 eythian        Basically the same costs for a proprietary system, except no license fees.
02:48 eythian        Also the server to run it on, or hosting fees depending which way you go with that.
02:47 eythian        mhussey: There's no cost for the softwarem but if you have to pay someone to implement it for you, that'll be a cost.
02:46 mhussey        Hello -  I am a first year LIS student, and I am doing a bit of research on koha for a class project. I understand that koha is a free program, but I know that some costs are involved.  Can anyone explain what they might consist of?  I don't need great detail, just a few ideas, because my instructor will ask this question and I haven't been able to find out.
02:12 eythian        I really dislike how the zebra configuration won't log things that are clearly warnings, e.g. using the wrong username/password.
01:47 papa           slef: where are the docs?
01:46 * papa         waves back
01:46 * mtj          waves to papa :)
01:44 slef           papa: thanks for your work on making svc more useful. Maybe I'll update the docs with this unfun stuff which someone should have written before ;)
01:44 slef           papa: that would be very very cool.
01:43 slef           very few things actively use ;-delimited instead of &-delimited. Stuff like dlvr.it is probably part of the reason why
01:43 papa           slef: thanks, it will be sorted when you wake up
01:42 slef           mtj: ah I know. dlvr.it failing to process URLs containing ;-delimited query strings correctly.
01:41 slef           sorry
01:41 slef           and I'm falling asleep now so I'll have to return to this in the morning :(
01:40 slef           papa: tried with a record downloaded from svc/bib/11?items=1 (which is another enh bug) and it failed
01:40 mtj            and yeah, i think its dlvr.it too
01:39 mtj            slef: no, i pjefer toes
01:38 slef           mtj: I blame dlvr.it
01:37 mtj            etc...
01:37 slef           mtj: have you considered using your fingers instead of your toes to type on IRC?
01:37 mtj            http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git%3Ba%3Dcommitdiff%3Bh%3Dcfa444d583e93b880ee4eaa4311524de2c24b963&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
01:37 mtj            slef:  yeah, i tjink
01:37 mtj            rangi: and ignore my recent password reset requests :)
01:36 slef           mtj: with a control character?
01:36 mtj            rangi:  fyi the kohagit urls are glitchy
01:36 slef           heh
01:36 wahanui        I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
01:36 slef           wahanui: rangi?
01:36 slef           rangi is not always accurate about when he leaves IRC
01:35 mtj            rangi:  bah, thanks
01:35 * rangi        really leaves now
01:35 wahanui        slef, your current theory is that it's something to do with the matcher
01:35 slef           slef's current theory?
01:35 rangi          tells ya htere
01:35 rangi          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Social_Networks
01:35 mtj            nicole asked that Q on ' oct 04, 2009' , so its very old
01:34 slef           papa: I'll try that
01:34 mtj            lol, i thought it might have been on of mine - but perhaps not... :/
01:34 papa           slef: what I did I exported a biblio from koha and worked with that
01:34 rangi          mine
01:34 mtj            http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/kohagit-on-Twitter-td3060105.html
01:33 mtj            random daily Q... who's twitter account is this -> http://twitter.com/kohagit
01:33 papa           sorry, not any more, I changed work environment recently and lost it
01:32 slef           can I see your file, for comparison?
01:32 slef           it imported 1 item correctly, though
01:32 papa           ok, I'm taking your file and trying with it
01:31 slef           (summary page)
01:31 slef           interesting... it says it is staged, but still # Items is 0
01:31 papa           maybe I also did it that way
01:30 papa           no, just to confirm that
01:30 slef           papa: will do, but surely that's going to behave like the reverted ones and then import with items OK... or am I looking for something else?
01:29 slef           rangi: thanks
01:29 papa           slef: can you please try it without mode=direct, and then process it from the UI
01:29 * rangi        has to head out now for parent teacher meeting, good luck
01:29 wahanui        wish i knew, slef
01:29 slef           wahanui: 942?
01:28 wahanui        slef: I forgot barcode
01:28 slef           wahanui: forget barcode
01:28 rangi          wierd
01:28 slef           yep
01:28 slef           I know. Mystifying.
01:28 wahanui        rumour has it barcode is in 852p
01:28 rangi          barcode?
01:28 rangi          hmm
01:28 slef           yeah
01:28 slef           <subfield code="y">BK</subfield>
01:28 rangi          cos 942 is bib level
01:27 rangi          do you have a 952 itemtype?
01:27 slef           heh the 942 got through but items still stripped off
01:26 slef           now trying: curl -b svc.cookie -d '@oneitem.xml' -H 'Content-Type: text/plain' 'http://intranet/cgi-bin/koha/svc/import_bib?import_mode=direct&overlay_action=create_new&nomatch_action=create_new&item_action=always_add&matcher=ISBN'
01:26 papa           yes, that one
01:26 slef           is what I was using
01:26 slef           ah always_add
01:25 papa           let me check
01:25 slef           always, not create_new?
01:24 slef           Let's play spot the difference!  (Actually, I'll add a 942 to mine.)
01:24 papa           yes, with item_action=always or similar
01:24 slef           which were imported?
01:24 papa           and had items
01:24 slef           items and all?
01:23 papa           yes
01:23 slef           did that work?
01:23 papa           no idea, I had my own
01:23 slef           I've others from clients but they're not FOSS
01:23 slef           is it buggy? ;)
01:23 slef           oneitem.xml yes
01:22 papa           XML that you are using is the one attached to the bug?
01:22 slef           probably some default we don't know
01:22 papa           Then I failed :)
01:22 slef           it must be something import_bib does different to the web UI
01:21 slef           as I set matcher=ISBN this time and that's been recognised
01:21 papa           that may be "Number of items we said we would delete, present or not"
01:21 slef           doesn't seem to be the matcher
01:21 slef           so I'm not sure what's going on here
01:20 slef           Interestingly, the results screen after "Undo import into catalog" claims "Number of items deleted: 1"
01:19 slef           and items appear
01:19 slef           then "Import this batch into the catalog"
01:19 slef           just clicked "Undo import into catalog"
01:19 slef           nothing
01:19 papa           ok, now you need to tell me what knobs did you turn on on the ui
01:18 slef           papa: my current theory is that it's something to do with the matcher
01:17 slef           papa: actually, reverting the import_bib import and then importing it again from the UI loads the items.
01:17 papa           slef: so you can do that from UI?
01:14 eythian        I like how someone made the effort of making the cardnumber a link - on the printed recepits.
01:06 rangi          ah ok
01:05 slef           before the patch, import_bib didn't exist
01:04 rangi          before the patch even?
01:02 slef           I'm not convinced it's possible to add items from import_bib now.
01:01 * slef         reverts and cleans all the imports and tries again
01:01 slef           I'm getting # Items 0 all the time now
00:59 papa           like I did not change anything in the process afterwards
00:59 papa           tested up to there, and processed, but did not check the details. I was happy that it appeared on the UI as expected
00:58 * slef         runs
00:58 slef           no testing?
00:58 papa           I assume that should suffice, I must say that I stopped there
00:57 papa           they are assigned to the import batch record
00:57 papa           yes even
00:57 papa           tes
00:56 slef           no I see, it's passed to AddImportBatch which does it
00:55 slef           Is GetWebserviceBatchId doing some magic with them?
00:55 slef           how are they being passed anywhere outside import_bib?
00:53 papa           basically all drop-downs from the UI
00:53 papa           you can see the whole list in that other daemon script usage
00:52 papa           import_mode=direct is just saying process immediately
00:52 slef           papa: I can't see what other url_params import_bib acts upon. I doubt C4::ImportBatch is reading the parameters directly somehow. I thought import_mode=direct would be enough.
00:52 papa           eh?
00:52 slef           beats BTS tennis
00:51 rangi          there we go :)
00:51 slef           ta
00:50 rangi          ill see if srdjan is about to jump on irc
00:50 slef           I can't see what other url_params it acts upon. I doubt C4::ImportBatch is reading the parameters directly somehow. I thought import_mode=direct would be enough.
00:49 rangi          havent tested it enough to know sorry slef
00:47 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib
00:46 slef           am I being dim or does bug 7613 just never add items to the import?
00:31 Judit          have it!
00:31 huginn         04Bug 5688: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPAC My Summary tab fines column doesn't display accruing fines
00:31 Judit          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5688
00:28 Judit          or a syspref setting
00:28 Judit          is it a bug or intentional?
00:27 Judit          kinda good
00:27 Judit          not only me so
00:25 rangi          yep
00:25 eythian        Wasn't someone (nengard?) asking about that the other day?
00:19 Judit          koha 3.6.4
00:19 Judit          i havent seen a bug report on this, and i dont know if it is normal or not
00:19 Judit          should i have there the amount of the fine, or even a 'yes' would make more sense
00:18 Judit          i have some overdue items with fines and on my opac, on the 'my summery" tab, in the "Fines" column i have only a "No"
00:16 Judit          good morning
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