Time Nick Message 00:09 bag @wunder 93109 00:09 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 16.1°C (5:09 PM PDT on March 28, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling). 00:16 Judit good morning 00:18 Judit i have some overdue items with fines and on my opac, on the 'my summery" tab, in the "Fines" column i have only a "No" 00:19 Judit should i have there the amount of the fine, or even a 'yes' would make more sense 00:19 Judit i havent seen a bug report on this, and i dont know if it is normal or not 00:19 Judit koha 3.6.4 00:25 eythian Wasn't someone (nengard?) asking about that the other day? 00:25 rangi yep 00:27 Judit not only me so 00:27 Judit kinda good 00:28 Judit is it a bug or intentional? 00:28 Judit or a syspref setting 00:31 Judit http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5688 00:31 huginn 04Bug 5688: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPAC My Summary tab fines column doesn't display accruing fines 00:31 Judit have it! 00:46 slef am I being dim or does bug 7613 just never add items to the import? 00:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib 00:49 rangi havent tested it enough to know sorry slef 00:50 slef I can't see what other url_params it acts upon. I doubt C4::ImportBatch is reading the parameters directly somehow. I thought import_mode=direct would be enough. 00:50 rangi ill see if srdjan is about to jump on irc 00:51 slef ta 00:51 rangi there we go :) 00:52 slef beats BTS tennis 00:52 papa eh? 00:52 slef papa: I can't see what other url_params import_bib acts upon. I doubt C4::ImportBatch is reading the parameters directly somehow. I thought import_mode=direct would be enough. 00:52 papa import_mode=direct is just saying process immediately 00:53 papa you can see the whole list in that other daemon script usage 00:53 papa basically all drop-downs from the UI 00:55 slef how are they being passed anywhere outside import_bib? 00:55 slef Is GetWebserviceBatchId doing some magic with them? 00:56 slef no I see, it's passed to AddImportBatch which does it 00:57 papa tes 00:57 papa yes even 00:57 papa they are assigned to the import batch record 00:58 papa I assume that should suffice, I must say that I stopped there 00:58 slef no testing? 00:58 * slef runs 00:59 papa tested up to there, and processed, but did not check the details. I was happy that it appeared on the UI as expected 00:59 papa like I did not change anything in the process afterwards 01:01 slef I'm getting # Items 0 all the time now 01:01 * slef reverts and cleans all the imports and tries again 01:02 slef I'm not convinced it's possible to add items from import_bib now. 01:04 rangi before the patch even? 01:05 slef before the patch, import_bib didn't exist 01:06 rangi ah ok 01:14 eythian I like how someone made the effort of making the cardnumber a link - on the printed recepits. 01:17 papa slef: so you can do that from UI? 01:17 slef papa: actually, reverting the import_bib import and then importing it again from the UI loads the items. 01:18 slef papa: my current theory is that it's something to do with the matcher 01:19 papa ok, now you need to tell me what knobs did you turn on on the ui 01:19 slef nothing 01:19 slef just clicked "Undo import into catalog" 01:19 slef then "Import this batch into the catalog" 01:19 slef and items appear 01:20 slef Interestingly, the results screen after "Undo import into catalog" claims "Number of items deleted: 1" 01:21 slef so I'm not sure what's going on here 01:21 slef doesn't seem to be the matcher 01:21 papa that may be "Number of items we said we would delete, present or not" 01:21 slef as I set matcher=ISBN this time and that's been recognised 01:22 slef it must be something import_bib does different to the web UI 01:22 papa Then I failed :) 01:22 slef probably some default we don't know 01:22 papa XML that you are using is the one attached to the bug? 01:23 slef oneitem.xml yes 01:23 slef is it buggy? ;) 01:23 slef I've others from clients but they're not FOSS 01:23 papa no idea, I had my own 01:23 slef did that work? 01:23 papa yes 01:24 slef items and all? 01:24 papa and had items 01:24 slef which were imported? 01:24 papa yes, with item_action=always or similar 01:24 slef Let's play spot the difference! (Actually, I'll add a 942 to mine.) 01:25 slef always, not create_new? 01:25 papa let me check 01:26 slef ah always_add 01:26 slef is what I was using 01:26 papa yes, that one 01:26 slef now trying: curl -b svc.cookie -d '@oneitem.xml' -H 'Content-Type: text/plain' 'http://intranet/cgi-bin/koha/svc/import_bib?import_mode=direct&overlay_action=create_new&nomatch_action=create_new&item_action=always_add&matcher=ISBN' 01:27 slef heh the 942 got through but items still stripped off 01:27 rangi do you have a 952 itemtype? 01:28 rangi cos 942 is bib level 01:28 slef <subfield code="y">BK</subfield> 01:28 slef yeah 01:28 rangi hmm 01:28 rangi barcode? 01:28 wahanui rumour has it barcode is in 852p 01:28 slef I know. Mystifying. 01:28 slef yep 01:28 rangi wierd 01:28 slef wahanui: forget barcode 01:28 wahanui slef: I forgot barcode 01:29 slef wahanui: 942? 01:29 wahanui wish i knew, slef 01:29 * rangi has to head out now for parent teacher meeting, good luck 01:29 papa slef: can you please try it without mode=direct, and then process it from the UI 01:29 slef rangi: thanks 01:30 slef papa: will do, but surely that's going to behave like the reverted ones and then import with items OK... or am I looking for something else? 01:30 papa no, just to confirm that 01:31 papa maybe I also did it that way 01:31 slef interesting... it says it is staged, but still # Items is 0 01:31 slef (summary page) 01:32 papa ok, I'm taking your file and trying with it 01:32 slef it imported 1 item correctly, though 01:32 slef can I see your file, for comparison? 01:33 papa sorry, not any more, I changed work environment recently and lost it 01:33 mtj random daily Q... who's twitter account is this -> http://twitter.com/kohagit 01:34 mtj http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/kohagit-on-Twitter-td3060105.html 01:34 rangi mine 01:34 papa slef: what I did I exported a biblio from koha and worked with that 01:34 mtj lol, i thought it might have been on of mine - but perhaps not... :/ 01:34 slef papa: I'll try that 01:35 mtj nicole asked that Q on ' oct 04, 2009' , so its very old 01:35 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Social_Networks 01:35 rangi tells ya htere 01:35 slef slef's current theory? 01:35 wahanui slef, your current theory is that it's something to do with the matcher 01:35 * rangi really leaves now 01:35 mtj rangi: bah, thanks 01:36 slef rangi is not always accurate about when he leaves IRC 01:36 slef wahanui: rangi? 01:36 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 01:36 slef heh 01:36 mtj rangi: fyi the kohagit urls are glitc hy 01:36 slef mtj: with a control character? 01:37 mtj rangi: and ignore my recent password reset requests :) 01:37 mtj slef: yeah, i tjink 01:37 mtj http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git%3Ba%3Dcommitdiff%3Bh%3Dcfa444d583e93b880ee4eaa4311524de2c24b963&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter 01:37 slef mtj: have you considered using your fingers instead of your toes to type on IRC? 01:37 mtj etc... 01:38 slef mtj: I blame dlvr.it 01:39 mtj slef: no, i pjefer toes 01:40 mtj and yeah, i think its dlvr.it too 01:40 slef papa: tried with a record downloaded from svc/bib/11?items=1 (which is another enh bug) and it failed 01:41 slef and I'm falling asleep now so I'll have to return to this in the morning :( 01:41 slef sorry 01:42 slef mtj: ah I know. dlvr.it failing to process URLs containing ;-delimited query strings correctly. 01:43 papa slef: thanks, it will be sorted when you wake up 01:43 slef very few things actively use ;-delimited instead of &-delimited. Stuff like dlvr.it is probably part of the reason why 01:44 slef papa: that would be very very cool. 01:44 slef papa: thanks for your work on making svc more useful. Maybe I'll update the docs with this unfun stuff which someone should have written before ;) 01:46 * mtj waves to papa :) 01:46 * papa waves back 01:47 papa slef: where are the docs? 02:12 eythian I really dislike how the zebra configuration won't log things that are clearly warnings, e.g. using the wrong username/password. 02:46 mhussey Hello - I am a first year LIS student, and I am doing a bit of research on koha for a class project. I understand that koha is a free program, but I know that some costs are involved. Can anyone explain what they might consist of? I don't need great detail, just a few ideas, because my instructor will ask this question and I haven't been able to find out. 02:47 eythian mhussey: There's no cost for the softwarem but if you have to pay someone to implement it for you, that'll be a cost. 02:48 eythian Also the server to run it on, or hosting fees depending which way you go with that. 02:48 eythian Basically the same costs for a proprietary system, except no license fees. 02:49 eythian and if you are a programmer, you don't have to pay someone for customisation as you can do it yourself. 02:49 mhussey Ah - that is exactly what I am looking for. I am very new to all of this, so I wasn't even sure what to ask for. Thank you! 02:50 eythian so it can range from zero cost (except the servers to run it on) if you do it all yourself, or more depending on which you choose to pay for. 02:51 mhussey This is the first class I have taken about code and creating web pages, and although I'm not very god at it yet, I find this fascinating. Thanks so much! What you've told me is perfect! 02:51 eythian no problem 02:52 mhussey Have a great evening! 02:53 eythian :) 02:55 Brooke o/ 03:31 Brooke huginn help @fight 03:31 huginn Brooke: Error: There is no command "@fight". 03:31 Brooke wahanui help @fight 03:31 Brooke typical. 2 male bots outperformed by one female bot. ;) 03:32 Judit :D 03:32 eythian you're the violent one here, clearly. 03:32 eythian wahanui: do you want to play a game is <reply>Global thermonuclear war? My favourite! 03:32 wahanui OK, eythian. 03:34 Brooke Zoia arranges cagematches :P 04:10 mtj eythian: some impressive beer on-tap at HZ at the mo :) 04:10 mtj http://hashigozake.co.nz/beerlist.html 04:10 eythian mtj: yeah, I'm moving flat tomorrow though, need to finish packing tonight. 04:10 mtj 2 coranados and a green-flash :p 04:11 eythian it's not bad. 04:11 mtj meh, next time then :) 04:12 eythian though, the Caronado wit beer is very very strange. 04:12 bag ummm BEER!!! 04:12 bag sounds good about now 04:12 bag :D 04:12 mtj figures... you've been there, done that... :) 04:12 eythian mtj: it came out on tuesday. That was ages ago. 04:13 mtj pours brendan a glass of Coronado Stoopid Stout (9.4% ABV) 04:14 mtj even reading that, makes me feel slightly wobbly :p 04:14 eythian that one is very good. 04:14 mtj ok, gotta scoot guys 04:14 bag heh 04:14 bag late mason 04:15 mtj hope the move goes smoove-azz, eythian 04:15 eythian cheers, cya 04:26 liw eythian, are you going to offer to present on how the Koha .debs work and the various helpful things they can do for you, at Kohacon? 04:27 eythian liw: probably, possibly. I haven't had time to sit down and think up a talk topic yet. It's one entry on my severely overgrown todo list at the moment. 04:29 liw eythian, I think it might be welcome :) I am going to offer to give a generic Debian packaging tutorial (a repeat of the one I gave on my last day at Catalyst), during the hackfest 04:29 eythian OK cool, not a bad idea then. 04:29 eythian So far I know of two or three others around here who are regularly building their own Koha packages for use. 04:30 eythian ... 04:30 rangi yep, magnuse and jcamins 04:31 liw I seem to occasionally notice discussions along the lines of "the packages do what for me? oh, that's nice, I didn't know that", so spreading that knowlege around sounds like a win 04:31 rangi yep 04:31 eythian rangi: also the Hungaustralians. 04:31 rangi ah yes 04:31 liw eythian, hyvää syntymäpäivää! 04:31 eythian liw: dankjewel 04:31 eythian liw: yeah, those do come up a bit 04:33 rangi you are awake early liw 04:34 liw rangi, yeah, interrupted sleep and going back to bed in a bit 04:34 rangi ahhh :) hope round 2 goes better :) 04:34 * eythian is off home. Got to go sign a lease, pay bond, pay deposit, etc. 04:35 liw eythian, have fun 04:42 * rangi is compiling a kernel for the first time in about 8 years 04:45 Brooke o/ 04:48 bag well happy birthday eythian 04:49 Brooke orlly 04:49 * Brooke hands eythian a beer. 04:49 Brooke what is he, 17 now? 04:50 Judit 17 :) 04:51 Judit no beer for him then 04:51 Brooke fah, Kiwis are like the Irish 04:51 Brooke if someone can see over the bar, it's all good. 04:51 * Brooke ducks the rotten tomatoes. 04:54 Brooke feh 04:54 Brooke NZ has the same dumb thing going on with law that we do 04:54 Brooke You're old enough to shoot someone in service to your flag 04:54 Brooke but not old enough to knock back a pint. 04:55 rangi its 18 for both 04:56 Brooke http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/publisher,CSCOAL,,NZL,498805ddc,0.html 04:57 Brooke granted, our shenanigans let us ship out like 14 year olds. Highly unlikely that'll occur, but it *is* possible. 04:57 rangi yep, you cant be deployed until you are 18 04:57 rangi so you can be in the army when you are 17 04:57 rangi you cant shoot someone until you are 18 04:58 Brooke no, you can't shoot an enemy beyond your borders until 18. 04:58 rangi ydo you cant be deployed 04:58 rangi doesnt matter where 04:58 Brooke doesn't say you can't handle a rifle. 04:59 * Brooke remembers being in the pit with a pimple faced kid. 04:59 rangi you cant shoot someone 04:59 rangi you can handle a rifle just fine, you just arent allowed to use it 05:01 rangi if you want to be an officer, you can apply at 17.5 but cant enlist until you are 18 05:01 Brooke without parental consent 05:02 Brooke or spousal. 05:02 rangi no 05:02 rangi they wont take you 05:02 rangi and you have to be 19 by the time you graduate 05:02 rangi they dont want officers younger than 19 05:02 Judit if you have a rifle you can shoot anyone- evenif you dont have a permisson to do so 05:02 * rangi spent a signficant amount of time in the defense building working in the archives when at uni 05:03 rangi Judit: and its against the law, no different to farmers or anyone else who has a rifle 05:04 rangi if you want to be electronic warfare, they wont even take you at less than 19 05:04 rangi as a recruit 05:05 Brooke it's 17 to join. http://www.defencecareers.mil.nz/army/joining-up/am-i-eligible 05:06 liw I'm sure the NZ forces are happy to take on 17-year-olds to do dishes until they grow up :P 05:06 Brooke roflmao 05:06 rangi Brooke: depends on the role if you read further 05:06 Brooke good dishwashers are in short supply anywhere 05:07 liw (I did my military service in .fi mostly doing dishes) 05:07 Brooke right, but they'll take you at 17. 05:07 rangi and yes you can be a rifleman recruit at 17 05:07 rangi not for officers they wont 05:07 rangi or electronic warfare 05:07 rangi they wont take an officer recruit until 18 05:07 rangi you can apply at 17.5 tho 05:08 rangi you can drive a truck at 17 too 05:08 rangi or be a chef 05:08 Brooke http://www.cadetforces.mil.nz/join/default.htm 05:08 Brooke just sayin' 05:09 rangi yes cadets 05:09 rangi its not like they deploy cadets, or they are allowed to shoot people 05:10 liw I like armies that aren't allowed to shoot people 05:10 rangi apart from the SAS 05:10 liw they're almost as good as libraries that allow you to read books for free 05:10 rangi nz army hasnt fired a shot in combat in years 05:11 rangi and i guarantee theres no 17 year olds in the SAS :) 05:11 liw :) 05:12 rangi the nz army mostly goes round rebuilding stuff everyone else blew up these days 05:13 rangi and we dont even have a strike force in the airforce anymore 05:13 rangi we could crash a hercules at you 05:13 rangi or an orion 05:13 rangi :) 05:13 Brooke similar combat readiness to the proper Irish Army, imo. 05:14 Brooke one of the local magazines awarded that lot a case of suds once. Between them. XD 05:14 Brooke Standing guard + Neutral country = posh job 05:15 rangi oh we get shot at a lot 05:15 rangi we just dont get to shoot back 05:15 rangi there were engineers in iraq, and afghanistan 05:15 rangi building bridges et al 05:15 Brooke mm hmm 05:15 rangi and timor peace keepers etc 05:17 rangi i think we pulled the engineers out now, i think only one sas unit left .. but they will never confirm nor deny that fact 05:17 rangi thats how the SAS roll 05:17 rangi you only know where they were 05:17 rangi not where they are 05:18 Brooke >.> 05:18 Brooke <.< 05:18 rangi my maori oral history lecturer was ex SAS 05:19 rangi helped getting access to the defense records of WWII soldiers 05:19 Brooke yeah I was at a gathering the other day 05:19 Brooke and was like you need to talk to these 2 people 05:19 Brooke cause the guy was telling some pretty good stories 05:20 Brooke that I knew had at very least a kernel of truth 05:20 rangi . The final exercise is a 60-kilometre endurance march, carrying a 35 kg pack, web gear and rifle, to be completed in under 20 hours 05:20 rangi bugger that for a joke 05:20 Brooke yeah, I was just talking about a 50/20 at fencing 05:20 Brooke and I was like orlly 05:20 Brooke unburdened? 05:20 Brooke no problem! 05:21 cait morning #koha 05:21 cait and happy birthday eythian :) 05:21 Brooke morning cait :D 05:21 rangi hi cait 05:21 cait evening rangi 05:24 rangi i wonder if this computer will catch fire before the kernel finishes compliting 05:24 rangi compiling too 05:24 Brooke are we cheering for or against the fire? 05:24 cait the ithing again? 05:24 Brooke it *is* beer o' clock... 05:25 liw rangi, are you compiling your own kernel in order to get a fix for fan control? :) 05:25 rangi partially :) 05:25 Brooke heh, wouldn't put it past him 05:25 rangi i inherited an old ibook 2.2 that was going to just leach toxic waste into the landfill, purged all the proprietary crap off it and got debian on it 05:26 rangi but the sleep/hibernate is a bit dicy 05:26 Brooke yeah 05:26 Brooke those little guys get hot, too 05:26 rangi so playing around to see if i can get it behave a bit nicer 05:26 Brooke almost burnt me lap at one point 05:27 rangi also with 600MB ram, taking things out of the kernel it doesnt use/need doesnt hurt too 05:27 * Brooke nods. 05:27 rangi then it will be a perfectly decent gcompris, kidsplay box for kahu 05:27 Brooke 600 seems an odd amount of ram. Didn't it used to be 512ish? 05:28 rangi MemTotal: 635416 kB 05:28 * Brooke votes for TuxRacer 05:28 * liw votes for Python ;-) 05:28 rangi :) 05:29 rangi well ill start with logo 05:29 rangi then maybe we'll jump to go :) 05:30 rangi skip ruby, or ill have to buy him a vespa and ironic tshirts 05:30 Brooke XD 05:30 Brooke did I tell you what my Da said to Tom? 05:30 cait lol 05:31 Brooke a few Thanksgivings back, we passed a scooter dealer. 05:31 Brooke and the little mister was like "Meh, why do they sell those, no one looks good on them." 05:31 Brooke I grunted, cause I have a few ideas of me own. 05:31 rangi ruby on rails 05:31 rangi its almost the law 05:31 Brooke the old man is like "Italian women look great on em." 05:32 Brooke certainly a meme for that methinks 05:33 Brooke it's like Librarians + Cats. 05:33 Brooke dogs are half optional 05:33 Brooke but cats seem near mandatory 05:33 liw there's a whole movie based on Ms. Hepburn and Mr. Peck looking good on a scooter 05:33 Brooke aye liw 05:33 Brooke liw++ 05:47 Amit_Gupta heya bag 06:06 rangi liw: pleased to report obnam 0.26 is working fine on this ppc 06:33 alex_a bonjour 06:35 reiveune hello 06:38 marcelr hello koha 06:39 cait hi marcelr :) 06:39 marcelr hi cait 06:39 rangi hi marcelr 06:40 cait marcelr: working on a fix for the serial subscription alert... or trying to 06:40 rangi and alex_a and reiveune 06:40 marcelr hi rangi 06:40 reiveune hi rangi marcelr cait and everybody :) 06:40 marcelr hi reiveune 06:41 cait hi reiveune :) 06:43 alex_a hi rangi, cait and marcelr 06:48 marcelr hi alex_a 06:56 paul_p good morning #koha 07:00 marcelr hi paul_p 07:00 paul_p ih marcelr 07:06 asaurat hi 07:06 wahanui hello, asaurat 07:13 magnuse kia ora #koha! 07:14 gaetan_B hello #koha 07:15 gaetan_B happy birthday eythian ! ;) 07:15 marcelr hi magnuse gaetan_B 07:16 alex_a ah ? 07:16 alex_a happy birthday eythian 07:16 magnuse hiya gaetan_B marcelr alex_a 07:16 magnuse happy birthday eythian 07:16 alex_a bonjour magnuse 07:16 Joubu hello ! 07:19 marcelr hi joubu 07:34 kf hi #koha 07:38 marcelr hi kf again 07:38 paul_p hi kf & magnuse 07:38 magnuse bonjour paul_p 07:39 paul_p marcelr any plan to do some QA today ? 07:39 paul_p I plan to work on QA/push all today, so maybe we should/could coordinate if you plan to 07:40 kf paul_p: I have a request 07:40 paul_p hey... some patches have passed QA during the night :D 07:40 magnuse paul_p++ 07:40 kf please don't qa on biblibre patches 07:40 paul_p unfortunatly, the QAed ones are the easy ones. 07:43 marcelr paul_p: i don't know yet 07:44 paul_p marcelr = OK, i'll report what i'm working on here then 08:17 magnuse huh, no-one ever thought about making the news items in koha available as RSS? 08:18 kf you should do that then :) 08:18 magnuse i can at least create a bug for it 08:18 mbalmer twitter integration! 08:23 magnuse mbalmer: importing tweets into the opac or pushing news items out to twitter? 08:24 mbalmer the latter. but I was not 100% serious.. 08:24 magnuse hehe 08:30 rangi anyone know samuel desseaux ? 08:30 kf I think he was on the chan 08:30 mbalmer only from the mail he sent. 08:30 kf and wrote some bugs 08:30 kf i was not aware that he is in france until now 08:31 macphisto hi everybody! 08:31 rangi hi macphisto 08:32 rangi i guess we might need to ask him to write up a quick proposal 08:33 kf hm yes 08:33 kf or a descripton about translation manager in general 08:33 kf I think people are not sure what it involves 08:33 rangi true 08:34 rangi maybe show him http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translation_Manager_for_3.4_Proposal 08:35 kf meeting 08:35 rangi i can write a quick email if ppl think that would be useful 08:35 kf_mtg bbl 08:35 kf_mtg it would be :) 08:36 macphisto yes, it's me who has just added my name on the wiki. The link is a good summary of the position 08:38 rangi cool 08:38 rangi i think there is one i did for 3.2 too 08:40 rangi but maybe not, cant find it 08:41 macphisto to be involved is a good idea but it takes many time, it 's sure. As librarian system, i know there's many ways to help the project 08:41 rangi yep, the main bit of time would be in setting up a pootle instance 08:41 rangi at the start 08:42 rangi then before each release, you need to commit the updated .po files 08:42 rangi the rest is mostly answering questions, and you have kf to help with that :) she knows a lot about how the translations work 08:43 rangi it might be that fredericd will want to continue to host the pootle instance 08:44 rangi and just hand over admin .. but I dont know .. a possibility maybe 08:47 macphisto ok 08:54 rangi macphisto: where in france are you? 08:54 rangi paris? 08:55 macphisto yes 08:59 * rangi was last there in 2006 for kohacon 09:01 macphisto i work for this school http://www.ecp.fr/lang/en/homepage 09:01 rangi ahhh 09:01 rangi cool 09:02 rangi we were at ecole des mines 09:02 macphisto ok, before, i work at the Ecole Nationale des Chartes (where koha run :-)) 09:03 rangi ahhh 09:03 rangi maybe at your school in a few years too :) 09:07 macphisto cool 09:08 slef argh bugzilla silently discards emails if it doesn't recognise the sender? :( 09:09 * slef does the change-email-address shuffle 09:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #687 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 09:23 paul_p bonjour samuel ( macphisto ) 09:24 macphisto bonjour 09:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7701: Error when sending serial alerts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=98c59fc3577b5904fc980781ce805bff875b157f> / Bug 7617: Sort authority results by authid <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=937480abe03863215c8134e67f56e1b968aaf229> / Bug 7537 - Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/? 09:26 slef paul_p: I resent the items=1 reply 09:57 Oak kia ora #koha 09:57 magnuse Oak 09:57 Oak magnuse 09:57 magnuse yay! 09:57 Oak :) 09:59 macphisto see you soon :-) 10:01 Oak do many libraries use the Koha acquisition module? 10:02 magnuse Oak: impossible to tell specific numbers... 10:03 magnuse but i think there are a fair number that do 10:03 magnuse biblibre has done some development on it, so probably a number of their customers 10:03 Oak hmm 10:03 magnuse and some of kf's customers 10:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #687: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/687/ 10:05 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7485 - Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add 10:05 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 4819: Add ids to OPAC detail page 10:05 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7436 - Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE 10:05 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7537 - Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT 10:05 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7617: Sort authority results by authid 10:05 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7701: Error when sending serial alerts 10:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7485 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add 10:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4819 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ID attribute to certain areas of OPAC so jquery can be used to hide them 10:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7436 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE 10:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7537 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT 10:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority search results should optionally be sorted by system order 10:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7701 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Error when sending serial alerts 10:05 magnuse success! woohoo! 10:05 Oak but it's okay to skip configuring/using it if the client want to do acquisitions the way they like to do... 10:05 Oak manually 10:06 magnuse yeah sure, you don't have to use it 10:06 Oak good. okay. 10:16 paul_p marcelr = I've QAed 4032, but as it's a BibLibre patch, I haven't set "passed QA" status. If you can have a look at it... 10:17 marcelr paul_p: saw it 10:30 kmkale Happy birthday eythian :) 10:32 paul_p marcelr same thing for bug 7291 10:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7291 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , claims management improvement 10:32 paul_p and it's time to head for lunch... brb 10:33 Oak kmkale, any Z39.50 server from India I can use for importing MARC records for management sciences LPE books? 10:35 kmkale Oak: Not that I am aware of 10:43 magnuse Oak: http://irspy.indexdata.com/ 10:50 Safwan83 hey 10:51 Safwan83 anyone here? 10:52 Safwan83 i have a question plz sombdy answear me...ay Koha community member around? 10:52 Safwan83 any* 11:05 Oak thank you magnus_lunch ! 11:13 BobB @seen slef 11:13 huginn BobB: slef was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 47 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <slef> paul_p: I resent the items=1 reply 11:14 BobB slef: ping 11:22 BobB @later tell slef to check his email re kohacon12 letter 11:22 huginn BobB: The operation succeeded. 11:50 hdl hi BobB 11:51 hdl @later tell eythian happy birthday 11:51 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded. 11:51 BobB hi hdl :) 11:56 hdl hope you're fine. 12:14 gmcharlt good morning 12:14 slef gmcharlt: no, not really ;) Hope yours is better 12:15 gmcharlt slef: oh dear ... what happened? 12:15 slef gmcharlt: server throwing a disk slowly 12:16 slef gmcharlt: or actually, the disk has been replaced once (yay RAID) after tests by the hardware supplier but now it's dying again, so maybe it's something else. Not much fun. 12:18 gmcharlt slef: indeed not; best wishes for a speedy recovery 12:21 oleonard Hi #koha 12:21 marcelr hi oleonard gmcharlt 12:23 gmcharlt hi marcelr 12:30 paul_p good morning oleonard & gmcharlt 12:30 gmcharlt hi paul_p 12:32 paul_p gmcharlt will you be available in a few hours, I may want to speak with you of your bug 7818 12:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records 12:32 paul_p (for now, i'm QAing & pushing...) 12:33 gmcharlt paul_p: yes 12:34 liw rangi, obnam on ppc: awesome 12:38 paul_p marcelr i'm on bug 7641 now (that has some trivial conflicts) 12:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add ability to suspend reserves. 12:39 marcelr ok, not qa-ing for now 13:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7835 - submit and cancel buttons on diff lines on notices <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb3dc448d2378e01a524d082fc6389484b0cc7d8> / bug 7641 follow-up: remove some unconditionnal warns <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a44448bfb4a46c069889319136bece143841dbc> / bug 7641 follow-up: activate use strict (see coding guidelines) <http://git.koha-community.org 13:30 oleonard Whew, it had been too long since I had a patch pushed. I was starting to get the shakes. 13:32 kf oleonard++ 13:32 magnus_afk oleonard++ 13:33 oleonard kf++ # for taking notes for me during my talk on staff client interface patterns 13:33 oleonard I'm staring to go through them finally 13:33 kf oh 13:33 kf hope they are understandable 13:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #688 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:33 magnus_afk kf++ 13:34 oleonard magnus_afk: Will you be at KohaCon? 13:34 magnus_afk nope, sorry 13:35 oleonard Me neither, so at least I'm not missing another opportunity to meet you in person. 13:35 * wizzyrea won't be there either :( 13:35 * kf sniffs 13:35 magnus_afk we're having a baby - it's due on june 26th, but i better stick around at home :-) 13:35 * magnus_afk sniffs too 13:35 * kf passes the paper tissues 13:35 magnus_afk oleonard: there will be more opportunities 13:35 * wizzyrea recalls oleonard being at kohacon09 with a baby due in the next... several weeks? 13:36 oleonard Yup, I took the chance :) 13:36 wizzyrea but he was only in texas :P 13:36 * magnus_afk is very curious about if and where there will be a kohacon13... 13:36 wizzyrea actually, probably about the same distance 13:36 * wizzyrea forgets how huge the US is 13:36 * oleonard is glad he took the chance or he wouldn't have met wizzyrea in person 13:36 wizzyrea and takes it for granted, all at the same time 13:36 wizzyrea :D me too. 13:37 wizzyrea maybe it will be mexico city 13:37 wizzyrea that would be cool 13:37 * wizzyrea has a passport and (funds permitting) isn't afraid to use it 13:37 magnus_afk yay! 13:37 * oleonard plans a pity-party for all the non-KohaCon-goers 13:37 wizzyrea y'all can come down to lawrence :P 13:38 magnus_afk yes please! 13:38 kf I would like croatia :) 13:38 * oleonard votes for Croatia too! 13:38 wizzyrea sure why not :) 13:38 magnus_afk fine by me! 13:38 * jcamins_away is planning on going to Lawrence for the "no KohaCon for you" pity party this year. 13:38 magnus_afk but it's hardly europe's turn again... 13:39 wizzyrea we really ought to make that sort of official. 13:39 kf do we have to? :( 13:39 magnus_afk the pity party? 13:39 magnus_afk or the continent "rule"? 13:39 * chris_n hears a big splash in his pool of assigned bugs 13:40 kf lol 13:40 kf big one? 13:40 wizzyrea well a "can't travel to europe but still want to have a koha hackfest in the US at or near the same time" thing. 13:40 chris_n right now they're all big kf :-) 13:40 wizzyrea no I like the continent rule 13:40 kf ok, gone again 13:40 kf bbl 13:41 macphisto hi! i plan too for the kohacon.There's a meeting in Paris in May for the french users (a colleague gave me the news yesterday) and it will be my first kohacon 13:41 magnus_afk according to wolfram alpha the distance from bodø to edinburgh is 1558 km 13:41 jcamins_away Hehe. 13:41 jcamins This is odd. 13:41 jcamins Finally! 13:41 jcamins I can't seem to change my nick. 13:41 wizzyrea how far from athens to plano texas? 13:41 jcamins Okay... 13:41 wizzyrea athens ohio 13:41 jcamins That was weird. 13:42 * chris_n looks around for the space-time continuum warping module 13:42 magnus_afk 1488km 13:42 magnus_afk http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=distance+from+athens%2C+ohio+to+plano%2C+texas 13:42 * magnus_afk takes the dogs for a walk 13:42 jcamins Heh. Only 70km difference. 13:42 wizzyrea I got 1 749 13:43 wizzyrea from google 13:43 wizzyrea but that's "road distance" 13:43 wizzyrea shorter if you fly :P 13:44 wizzyrea chris_n: busy busy eh? 13:44 chris_n well, I thought you could use it to be in europe and n america at once ;-) 13:54 chris_n dpavlin++ # for bug 7846 13:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , get_batch_summary massive speedup 13:54 chris_n massive is an understatement 13:54 tcohen hi #koha 13:54 chris_n wizzyrea ^^ 13:54 chris_n your folks should love that one 13:55 chris_n heya tcohen 13:55 wizzyrea oooh 13:55 tcohen can anyone give me some explanation of a proper my-own-git setup for a production server? 13:55 wizzyrea holy crap 13:55 wizzyrea that's amazing. 13:55 chris_n complete with flames 13:56 tcohen i'd like it to follow 3.6.x 13:56 chris_n maybe photons really can exceed the speed of light, heh? 13:56 jcamins tcohen: don't use git for production. 13:56 chris_n tcohen: what he said 13:56 chris_n use packages 13:57 tcohen r they suitable for production already? 13:57 tcohen never used them 13:58 jcamins tcohen: yes. git is not. 13:58 tcohen suppose we already use git for every project here at the university 13:59 tcohen and would like to maintain some of our customisations in our dev git repo 14:00 tcohen i mean, we need to use git, locally 14:02 tcohen does anyone use a dev install against a git checkout? 14:02 wizzyrea almost everyone does - for dev. 14:02 wizzyrea version control using git 14:02 wahanui somebody said version control using git was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 14:02 wizzyrea that's really the best guide 14:04 tcohen i suppose some vendors use some kind of dev install for their customers... 14:04 tcohen if they sell and maintain customizations 14:04 jcamins tcohen: sorry, I misunderstood what you wanted. 14:04 jcamins I thought you were talking about the latter option. 14:04 jcamins (using a dev install for production) 14:05 jcamins That's a bad idea. Much better to use packages for production. For your own work, much better to use git. 14:05 jcamins Roll your own packages for installing on production if you have customizations. 14:06 tcohen jcamins: that's a good advise 14:07 tcohen packages are suitable for multi-site deploys, right? 14:08 jcamins Yes. 14:08 jcamins I use packages exclusively for production. 14:08 tcohen thanks jcamins, i'll try that way 14:08 jcamins I roll my own packages, based on 3.6.x, but with additional patches merged in. 14:09 tcohen and how do you maintain your git repo in sync? 14:09 tcohen do u push master against your git? 14:09 tcohen i mean, the 3.6.x branch? 14:09 jcamins My setup might be considered a bit Byzantine. 14:09 jcamins I have one system I do all my development on. 14:09 jcamins That one has a gazillion branches, and is usually on Master. 14:10 tcohen so you do your work locally 14:10 jcamins I have another system which does not run Koha at all, just has the git repo for packaging. 14:10 slef jcamins: do you have git gr configured? 14:10 slef wahanui: git gr? 14:10 wahanui slef: bugger all, i dunno 14:10 jcamins git gr? 14:10 jcamins I push my 3.6.x-based changes to that repo, build the packages, and then deploy to a third system, which is my staging server. 14:11 slef git gr is gr = log --graph --full-history --all --color --pretty=tformat:"%x1b[31m%h%x09%x1b[32m%x1b[0m%x20%s%x20%x1b[33m(%an)%x1b[0m" in the [alias] section of .gitconfig 14:11 slef wahanui: git gr? 14:11 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, slef 14:11 slef wahanui: you suck 14:11 wahanui slef: sorry... 14:11 slef wahanui: git gr is gr = log --graph --full-history --all --color --pretty=tformat:"%x1b[31m%h%x09%x1b[32m%x1b[0m%x20%s%x20%x1b[33m(%an)%x1b[0m" in the [alias] section of .gitconfig 14:11 jcamins I test that everything's working as intended, then upload and install to my production servers. 14:11 slef wahanui: git gr? 14:11 wahanui slef: i don't know 14:11 * slef kills wahanui 14:11 slef wahanui: die! 14:11 wahanui slef: what? 14:11 slef wahanui: have a lethal botsnack 14:11 wahanui thanks slef :) 14:12 slef :)? 14:12 wahanui :) is ok 14:12 jcamins That is so cool! 14:12 libsysguy soliciting thoughts: instant fine calculation on checkin? 14:13 slef libsysguy: what's the down side? Race conditions? 14:13 Oak how do I display edition of a book in opac normal view? 14:13 libsysguy in addition to running it nightly/whenever so patrons can still see their fines 14:13 wizzyrea it doesn't show that in xslt view? 14:13 slef Oak: enable XSLT or ISBD display and edit the stylesheet or template if it's not shown? 14:13 libsysguy heh slef you might see a .0001 s knock in checkin performance 14:14 Oak okay got it. 14:14 Oak thank you! 14:14 libsysguy but since you're not doing it for all items, its very VERY nominal 14:14 slef anyone else think "normal" view is a bit misnamed? Or does it follow a norm that I've not noticed? 14:14 jcamins slef: it is very much misnamed. 14:14 wizzyrea yes, i think so. 14:14 wizzyrea what does it mean, actually? 14:15 libsysguy i think wizzyrea had some apprehension toward it when I brought it up about a yeah ago 14:15 jcamins libsysguy: I think that's a great idea, personally. 14:15 slef I think it's an HLT legacy view BICBW 14:15 libsysguy year** 14:15 * wizzyrea considers them "the sucky" and "not sucky" view 14:15 oleonard "What a general public patron would normally expect to see in a library catalog" 14:15 wizzyrea I did, but only because of performance issues 14:15 wizzyrea if it's not that big of a deal then sure, go ahead. 14:15 wizzyrea ;) 14:15 slef libsysguy: what happens if the same patron checks in two books at the same moment? 14:16 jcamins Yeah, I'd want to be very sure that it had minimal impact on performance. 14:16 jcamins However, if it really is completely minimal, it'd certainly be useful. 14:16 libsysguy oleonard: I meant to show you my new opac customizations http://catalog.uttyler.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=lasers 14:16 Oak coool. worked. 14:16 slef oleonard: I think you mean usually, not normally. 14:16 oleonard Whatever. 14:17 libsysguy slef, it would just calculate when AddReturn got called 14:17 jcamins libsysguy: you should remove the "Actions" line. 14:17 oleonard Looks really nice libsysguy 14:17 * slef wanders off back into the git tree, muttering about these damned merkins breaking the language 14:17 jcamins And, for that matter, the "Log in to add tags" line. 14:17 libsysguy jcamins, agreed 14:17 jcamins And what happened to your nice two-line availability display? 14:18 libsysguy umm those got killed in the great rebase to master 14:18 libsysguy but i am working on rebasing my patch 14:18 libsysguy but I have to wander back off into the wiki to find out how to do syspref additions again 14:18 libsysguy apparently the way it is now is an old way 14:18 jcamins And you might want to set the background on the body tag to match that darker tannish color. 14:19 libsysguy oh for when the picture runs out? 14:19 libsysguy on say larger screen resolutions 14:19 libsysguy I have that problem at work too 14:19 jcamins Yeah. 14:19 wizzyrea it's purty :) 14:19 jcamins There's an unsightly bar at the bottom. 14:19 libsysguy I had to model it after this http://www.uttyler.edu/ 14:20 libsysguy ugh I know…I think it is the opac credits 14:20 wizzyrea oh yea def set the background on the body tag. 14:20 libsysguy I haven't gotten around to building a footer yet 14:20 jcamins Hm, in that case you'll want to use that dark gray. 14:20 libsysguy yeah for sure 14:20 libsysguy my poor 13" screen misses some things 14:21 tcohen jcamins: thanks 14:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #688: UNSTABLE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/688/ 14:21 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7641: Suspend Reserves 14:21 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7641 follow-up DBRev number 14:21 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7641 follow-up: activate use strict (see coding guidelines) 14:21 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7641 follow-up: remove some unconditionnal warns 14:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add ability to suspend reserves. 14:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7835 - submit and cancel buttons on diff lines on notices 14:21 jcamins Aside from all the work I just added to your plate, though, looks good! 14:21 jcamins :) 14:21 libsysguy jcamins, wizzyrea thanks for looking over it :) 14:22 libsysguy I've been getting complaints all morning about instant fine calculation being gone :'( 14:22 libsysguy apparently it was a popular feature 14:22 jcamins I'm not surprised. 14:22 jcamins I certainly noticed the lack immediately when I started using Koha. 14:22 libsysguy for hourly its a super useful tool for horuly 14:23 libsysguy hourly** 14:23 libsysguy i just wanted to make sure if I submitted it I wouldn't get smacked down to the bottom of bugzilla :p 14:25 wizzyrea libsysguy: I'd say submit it 14:25 wizzyrea ffs evergreen does it. 14:25 wizzyrea :P 14:25 libsysguy ok, I'm creating the ticket now 14:29 gmcharlt wizzyrea: hey now! ;) 14:30 slef gmcharlt: as in: hey now hey now, don't dream it's over? 14:32 * jcamins heads over to the old apartment for almost the last time. 14:32 wizzyrea oh I know right. 14:33 * wizzyrea can't believe that windows doesn't natively untar things 14:33 * wizzyrea is righteously annoyed by this fact. 14:33 slef do I withhold a signoff for a cosmetic problem on an enh? 14:34 jcamins_away slef: depends how bad it is. 14:34 slef jcamins_away: every record numbered 0 instead of 1, 2, 3, ... Doesn't seem to have a practical effect. 14:34 wizzyrea which bug slef? 14:34 slef bug 7613 14:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib 14:35 slef it's a really really nice enh 14:35 wizzyrea you think it would be easy to fix in a followup? 14:35 wizzyrea and that the followup would be done before release? 14:35 slef depends on the root cause 14:35 jcamins_away ^^ 14:35 * slef wonders why jcamins_away underlined "on" for him ;) 14:36 * jcamins_away was trying to point at wizzyrea's question. 14:36 wizzyrea I use it as a "what they said" mechanism 14:37 * jcamins_away actually leaves. 14:37 slef I don't know if the followup would be done pre-release 14:39 slef on further inspection, the bug isn't introduced by the enh... it's an older bug, merely exposed by it 14:40 slef I think I'll signoff 14:41 wizzyrea yep, I think that merits a signoff. 14:43 slef done 14:43 slef bug 7613 14:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib 14:44 kf can someone point me in the right direction? 14:44 wizzyrea go north 14:45 kf I need an sql to replace / with - in a couple of barcodes 14:45 kf wizzyrea: it's cold in the north! 14:45 slef mysql manual? 14:45 wizzyrea sorry, go south 14:45 wizzyrea ^.^ 14:45 wizzyrea but not too far south 14:45 reiveune bye 14:45 kf slef: yes, but was thinking about a function perhaps 14:46 slef kf: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/string-functions.html#function_replace 14:47 kf aha 14:47 kf thx 14:47 kf :) 14:47 slef mysql manual is http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/index.html 14:47 slef kf: if you're coding, mbalmer will tell you off if that's a mysqlism 14:47 slef ;) 14:47 kf missing the obvious again 14:48 kf slef: no, only need it to clean up some barcodes 14:48 slef (quite rightly) 14:48 kf to make the barcode autogeneration work 14:48 kf we have a mix of - and / 14:48 kf and it doesn't like that 14:50 oleonard I've found the mysql docs to be full of mysqlisms 14:51 kf slef++ 14:52 kf it works very nicely :) 14:52 kf and so easy 14:52 kf I was scared I would have to fiddle around with substrings and the like 14:54 chris_n oleonard: LOL 14:54 chris_n bad habit they have there 15:08 mbalmer slef, I guess for most function calls we can either find a neutral form, and if not, we add it to C4::DBQ. 15:32 paul_p passed QA list => Zarro bugs found ! signed-off list => 5 bugs found ! we need ppl signoff to feed the QA team & RM :D :D ... 15:36 slef paul_p: and the link to Needs Signoff is in the footer of http://bugs.koha-community.org/ 15:36 paul_p yep. 83 ! 15:36 slef I can't help with bug 7619 because I am in the wrong country ;) 15:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7619 blocker, P2, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , 3M self checkout don't work in France 15:36 paul_p a few of them being tricky, and waiting since more than 2 months 15:37 paul_p slef not at all ! you can help by testing if your GB self checkout still work after applying the patch or not. that's the question I want to have an answer to for now. 15:37 slef ah I've already been breaking papa's balls on one bug. I think I will look for easy ones next ! 15:37 slef paul_p: will need to wait for me to be on site and have time 15:41 wizzyrea paul_p: I think that happens only on the newest updated 3M software 15:41 nengard git help please :) 15:41 nengard how do revert the last commit? 15:42 wizzyrea on one file? 15:42 gmcharlt nengard: git revert HEAD 15:42 gmcharlt to revert the entire last commit 15:42 kf if you want to keep te changes you could do a git reset --soft HEAD^ 15:43 paul_p and if you want to discard all git reset --hard HEAD^ 15:43 * wizzyrea was going to suggest git checkout <file>, but that would be similar to a reset hard. 15:43 gmcharlt in other words, Git is actually Perl - TMTOWTDI 15:43 wizzyrea worse, really 15:44 wizzyrea didn't know about revert, thanks gmcharlt :) 15:44 nengard even if the commit has been pushed? 15:44 gmcharlt now if you're talking about revert a commit in a branch that you've published -- then do it via git revert 15:44 nengard i broke the manual :) 15:44 slef wahanui: TMTOWTDI? 15:44 wahanui i think TMTOWTDI is there's more than one way to do it 15:44 slef :) 15:45 gmcharlt nengard: right - in that case, definitely revert, then push 15:48 nengard thanks! 16:02 nengard question about new SubscriptionDuplicateDroppedInput preference (I know I can test- but thought I'd ask first) 16:02 nengard the description isn't clear to me 16:02 nengard what happens to the fields I put in there? 16:02 nengard they aren't duplciated? or they are? and what table does it look for fields in? 16:02 nengard subscription I assume 16:07 nengard figured it out i think :) 16:10 paul_p nengard they aren't duplicated 16:10 nengard thanks 16:10 nengard that's what i foudn 16:10 nengard found 16:10 nengard and it's the subscription table 16:10 nengard in the DB 16:10 paul_p yep 16:11 paul_p for me it's family time now ! see you tomorrow #koha ! 16:12 nengard see ya! 17:09 slef @query libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl 17:09 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans 17:13 slef anyone else think that's a missing build-depends? 17:14 slef eythian: can you add libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl to Build-Depends, or shall I do the bug shuffle? 17:14 slef @seen eythian 17:14 huginn slef: eythian was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 39 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: * eythian is off home. Got to go sign a lease, pay bond, pay deposit, etc. 17:14 libsysguy slef is that the dep for hourly? 17:14 slef libsysguy: seems like a mainstream dep 17:15 libsysguy ok i was jw, I saw where builds kept fialing 17:15 libsysguy failing** 17:15 slef oooh, build fails 17:15 slef jenkins_koha: status 17:15 jenkins_koha status of all projects: 17:15 jenkins_koha 3_6_Packages: last build: 7 (3 days 15 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/3_6_Packages/7/ 17:15 jenkins_koha Koha_3.2.x: last build: 36 (3 mo 26 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/36/ 17:15 jenkins_koha Koha_3.4.x: last build: 80 (1 mo 7 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/80/ 17:15 jenkins_koha Koha_3.6.x: last build: 44 (24 days ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/44/ 17:15 jenkins_koha Koha_Docs: last build: 41 (57 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/41/ 17:15 jenkins_koha Koha_master: last build: 688 (3 hr 42 min ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/688/ 17:15 jenkins_koha Master_Packages: last build: 22 (7 hr 10 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Master_Packages/22/ 17:16 libsysguy looks better now :p 17:18 rangi No check console output master can't build packages 17:19 slef @query libreadonly-perl 17:19 slef that's missing too 17:19 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans 17:22 rangi There is a module that has a create dbh call in the begin block. Breaks the tests when building packages plus the dependencies 17:22 tcohen anyone knows what is that apache2 package in the catalyst debian repo about? 17:22 slef so package-building is currently hopeless? 17:23 rangi On master yes needs 2 fixes 17:23 rangi Both easy 17:24 rangi Tcohen: you don't need the catalyst repo 17:24 slef C4/Barcodes/hbyymmincr.pm and C4/External/BakerTaylor.pm ? 17:24 slef point me at the bug or fix and let's get it to paul_p 17:24 tcohen rangi: what about the perl packages? 17:25 tcohen (hi rangi) 17:25 rangi It's all in mainline koha 17:26 rangi Slef can't easily on phone will when I get to a computer 17:26 tcohen rangi: there are unmet dependencies 17:26 slef rangi: ok, I'm out this evening. I'll return to this tomorrow. 17:27 rangi But Jenkins tells u if u look at console output 17:27 slef rangi: but I'll read logs in the morning 17:27 slef yeah I looked at that 17:27 slef it's where I got those filenames from 17:28 rangi It's not them its to do with heading:: something 17:28 rangi IIRC 17:28 slef C4::Heading::UNIMARC? 17:28 rangi Yeah that 17:28 wahanui i think Yeah that is fine as it is 17:29 rangi Or marc21 17:29 slef wahanui: die! 17:29 wahanui errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit! 17:30 rangi Tcohen: in 3.6.x ? 17:30 slef any pointers on the fix? 17:31 rangi All of them are in squeeze 17:31 tcohen i'm testing squeeze stable koha-common on Ubuntu Lucid 17:31 slef @query C4::Heading::UNIMARC 17:31 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements 17:31 tcohen and ge tunmet dependencies 17:31 rangi Slef: it doesn't need to be in the begin 17:31 rangi Could be in the init sub instead 17:32 slef moving them, sending followup patch to 7284, reopening it 17:33 rangi Tcohen: lucid is old. Check the wiki for it. You will need to find the packages in the multiverse 17:33 tcohen i cannot find them 17:33 tcohen they are in catalyst's repo 17:33 tcohen we are waiting for 12.04 to move forward 17:33 rangi Look at the koha wiki 17:34 tcohen thanks rangi 17:34 rangi Ppl have packages on lucid working 17:35 tcohen before i end working on koha (hope i dont) i'll manage to invite you a beer 17:36 slef ok, building this again now, but leaving keyboard 17:40 jcamins_away tcohen: I've installed via packages on Lucid. 17:41 jcamins_away Actually, I had a Puppet config to take care of that. 17:41 tcohen following the wiki for lucid? 17:41 tcohen don't know what it is 17:41 jcamins_away tcohen: yes, plus there are a few additional dependencies now, but I think they're mostly packaged. 17:41 jcamins_away Puppet is a configuration management system. 17:42 tcohen oh, gonna take a look at it 17:42 jcamins_away The wiki is pretty good, though. 17:42 jcamins_away There are a few things that look like misspellings but aren't, though, as I recall. 17:45 tcohen jcamins_away: thanks, already installed, going forward to test it 17:45 tcohen got to update from 3.0.x to 3.6 so... 17:46 jcamins_away Heh. That'll be fun. 17:58 cait hi #koha 18:01 oleonard wb cait 18:01 cait hi oleonard :) 18:03 libsysguy anybody got a copy of master running? 18:03 jcamins_away Not here. 18:04 libsysguy I am getting the "Checked out from" field is always blank on the patron details page 18:04 magnus_afk libsysguy: head.bibkat.no 18:04 wahanui it has been said that head.bibkat.no is up to date as of right now - login: demo/demo 18:04 magnus_afk ooh, thanks wahanui 18:04 jcamins_away magnus_afk: do you have a cronjob that pulls every hour or something? 18:04 libsysguy gracias 18:04 magnus_afk well, "right now" is an exaggeration 18:05 magnus_afk jcamins_away: it pulls every night (my night, that is) 18:05 jcamins_away Ah. 18:05 magnus_afk my thought was that it should pull when the rm is sleeping :-) 18:06 cait :) 18:06 cait magnuse++ 18:06 * magnus_afk wanders off again 18:06 libsysguy magnus++ 18:08 libsysguy jcamins_away: I was going to ask if you saw the advanced search page for my opac when you were poking around 18:08 jcamins_away libsysguy: I don't think I did. 18:08 libsysguy http://catalog.uttyler.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl 18:08 libsysguy I 86-ed that table of item types 18:08 libsysguy and made it a list 18:09 jcamins_away Whoah! 18:09 * jcamins_away likes! 18:09 libsysguy all with jquery 18:09 libsysguy i was pretty proud of myself 18:18 gmcharlt @quote random 18:18 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #181: "*oleonard imagines perlcritic level Ebert and perlcritic level Siskel *jcamins imagines perlcritic levels Statler and Waldorf." (added by wizzyrea at 05:52 PM, January 13, 2012) 18:18 wizzyrea hehehe that's a good one 18:19 jcamins_away Hehe. 18:21 libsysguy does anyone know if there is a database cleanup script? 18:21 libsysguy old patrons, tmp data, etc 18:22 jcamins_away libsysguy: there is. 18:22 jcamins_away It's in misc/cronjobs 18:23 libsysguy and there it is…dunno why I didn't think to look there 18:27 libsysguy i just dumped my db for a backup and it was right at 5 gigs…is that about right? 18:28 jcamins_away That seems a bit high. 18:28 jcamins_away (considering the size of your library) 18:29 libsysguy I have right under 300K biblios, and about 6000 patrons 18:29 libsysguy not all of them have been in to use the library but I just import them with a feed 18:30 jcamins_away That seems large. wizzyrea's DB is, what, 7GB, and they have a lot of statistics in it. 18:30 libsysguy im just trying to figure out what might be eating up all that space 18:30 jcamins_away Uncleaned imports? 18:31 libsysguy I would be willing to bet the people importing aren't cleaning them 18:31 * jcamins_away too. 18:31 * libsysguy goes to look 18:31 * libsysguy smh 18:31 libsysguy 9 pages of uncleaned imports 18:32 jcamins_away That'll be part of it. 18:32 jcamins_away If you're storing sessions in MySQL, and haven't been cleaning them out, that'll be part of it, too. 18:32 wizzyrea actionlogs? 18:32 libsysguy ok, the cleanup script should get the session 18:33 libsysguy i dumped and am going to import to my test db and clean it up 18:33 libsysguy to make sure I don't break anything 18:33 jcamins_away wizzyrea: the data only goes back a year. 18:33 wizzyrea still, lots can get stuffed into actionlogs. 18:33 libsysguy what are the actionlogs... 18:33 wizzyrea ours was 11 with actionlogs. 18:33 libsysguy forgive my still newbness 18:34 wizzyrea every time you do something, if you have logging on, it logs it in actionlogs. 18:34 wizzyrea add a patron, remove a patron, add a bib/item, delete a bib/item 18:34 wizzyrea edit a patron 18:34 wizzyrea edit an item 18:34 wizzyrea etc. 18:34 libsysguy yup…logging is on for sure 18:34 jcamins_away wizzyrea: if NEKLS had 6GB of actionlogs, after... four years? I don't see how UT Tyler could have anything really significant in one year. 18:34 jcamins_away I mean, yeah, it'll take up some space, but that's a heck of a lot of actions. 18:34 wizzyrea certainly they could have 1 or two though 18:34 libsysguy yeah and every gig counts :p 18:34 jcamins_away Yeah, that's true. 18:35 magnus_afk sessions in the db can take up a lot of space! 18:35 wizzyrea sessions are another biggie 18:35 * jcamins_away is betting on sessions and uncleaned imports. 18:35 jcamins_away Uncleaned imports basically *triple* the space required for one record. 18:35 libsysguy ill run the cleanup script 18:36 libsysguy is there a quick way to run the cleans 18:36 libsysguy without having to click clean for each import 18:36 jcamins_away Hmm... not that I know of.` 18:36 libsysguy well that'll give me something to do when zebra is rebuilding lol 18:37 jcamins_away The entire time, yeah. 18:37 libsysguy heh 18:37 libsysguy poor zebra 18:37 libsysguy it just wants a friend…named solr :p 18:40 slef that's an abusive relationship! 18:40 slef bbml 18:41 cait perhaps a girlfriend? 18:41 cait lucy 18:42 libsysguy maybe just some chocolate 18:45 jcamins_away Mmm. Chocolate. 18:45 jcamins_away Green tea chocolate. 18:46 jcamins_away Green tea chocolate fudge. 18:46 jcamins_away That could be really good. 18:48 rangi zomgwtf 18:49 jcamins_away rangi: You don't like green tea? 18:49 * rangi chokes under a cloud of impulse 18:49 rangi Caught the bus full of school kids 18:51 rangi No! Don't spray more 18:51 wizzyrea oh dear 18:51 * rangi contemplates a dive roll out the window 18:51 jcamins_away lol 18:53 oleonard rangi: You'll arrive to work smelling bus-fresh? 18:53 rangi Like a 14 year old 18:54 oleonard Everyone will be all, "Wow, that guys smells like he really wishes he could have sex!" 18:55 wizzyrea @quote add oleonard: Everyone will be all, "Wow, that guys smells like he really wishes he could have sex!" 18:55 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #194 added. 18:56 rangi Heh 18:56 * jcamins_away thinks that's going to raise some eyebrows in a few months. 18:56 oleonard Now when that quote comes up randomly I can try to insist I was talking about Zebra. 19:00 rangi @wunder nzwn 19:00 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on March 30, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). 19:00 oleonard @wunder 45701 19:00 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 17.0°C (2:50 PM EDT on March 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 19:00 wizzyrea zebra really *does* wish he could have sex. With solr. 19:00 rangi Cloudy my butt 19:00 gmcharlt what would the love child of *that* union look like? 19:00 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks 19:00 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 25.8°C (2:00 PM CDT on March 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1008 hPa (Falling). 19:00 wizzyrea shiny happy zebras holding hands? 19:01 rangi It's blue skies and crisp gonna be nice 19:01 oleonard Whoa, wizzyrea, summer in KS eh? 19:01 wizzyrea jeez, nearly. 19:01 * wizzyrea remembers it's march 19:01 wizzyrea OMG 19:02 rangi For 2 more days 19:04 magnus_afk @wunder boo 19:04 huginn magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:50 PM CEST on March 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). 19:07 libsysguy @quote random 19:07 huginn libsysguy: Quote #188: "oleonard: 64-bit IE9, for when you want to surf the web in a *powerfully* bad browser." (added by sekjal at 07:22 PM, February 24, 2012) 19:08 oleonard That quote has held up well. 19:08 * oleonard glares at IE9 19:09 libsysguy heh id rather deal with IE 9 than IE 7 or 8 19:14 * libsysguy just overflowed the lock table size in mysql :-/ 19:15 jcamins_away libsysguy: the lock table size? 19:15 libsysguy yeah i got this message The total number of locks exceeds the lock table size 19:16 jcamins_away What are you doing? 19:16 libsysguy running the cleanup script 19:16 libsysguy and eating a sandwich 19:16 libsysguy but i guess that is irrelevant to the error…or is it 19:16 libsysguy lol 19:16 jcamins_away lol 19:17 jcamins_away Increase the InnoDB buffer size. 19:17 jcamins_away Then run the cleanup script again. 19:17 libsysguy yeah thats what I just did…waiting to see if it crashes again 19:17 libsysguy i couldn't find that entry in my.cnf 19:17 libsysguy so I just added it 19:17 libsysguy oh it says its done 19:17 libsysguy maybe that was the trick 19:18 jcamins_away You should switch to storing sessions in memcached. 19:18 * rangi munches on his hot cross bun and drinks his flat white 19:18 * libsysguy would have to set up memcache 19:18 * wizzyrea cries 19:18 wizzyrea j/k 19:18 wizzyrea kinda. 19:18 jcamins_away It's not as bad as wizzyrea makes it out to be. 19:18 rangi libsysguy: its very easy 19:18 wizzyrea no, about the hot cross buns and flat whites. 19:18 libsysguy oh well then 19:19 rangi ahh 19:19 rangi i think technically im a week early 19:19 libsysguy would I have to rebuild koha or just alter the .conf file? 19:19 wizzyrea probably - palm sunday is this week 19:19 jcamins_away libsysguy: just alter the koha-httpd.conf file. 19:20 libsysguy ok *phew* 19:20 libsysguy I thought about setting up a dedicated mysql server seperate from Koha 19:20 libsysguy so see if that would speed it up a bit 19:20 * jcamins_away didn't realize that hot cross buns were something other than a song. ;) 19:20 libsysguy maybe one server for writes and one for reads 19:20 oleonard You know, buns. With a hot cross. 19:23 rangi libsysguy: seriously you take about 30writes/sec off the db 19:23 rangi when you shift sessions 19:23 libsysguy oh wow 19:23 rangi and thats under moderate load 19:23 rangi anytime anyone does anything 19:23 libsysguy ok, well i may work on getting that set up 19:23 rangi sessions change 19:23 libsysguy is there a wiki for config? 19:23 rangi hmm not sure 19:23 libsysguy wiki session? 19:23 libsysguy darn 19:23 libsysguy i was sure the bot had some info 19:23 rangi but its not bad 19:24 rangi sudo apt-get install memcached 19:24 libsysguy ok I'll give it a go 19:24 rangi and the perl module 19:24 rangi lib something something session-perl :) 19:24 rangi its on debian.koha-community.org 19:24 rangi then edit the config 19:24 libsysguy heh its always something long 19:24 libsysguy and then just alter the conf file 19:24 rangi <memcached_servers>127.0.0.1:11211</memcached_servers> 19:25 rangi <memcached_namespace>KOHA</memcached_namespace> 19:25 rangi something like that 19:25 rangi and then switch the syspref 19:25 rangi make sure you try it on staging first 19:25 libsysguy gotcha 19:25 rangi it also means it cleans up after itself 19:25 rangi no stale sessions filling up the table :) 19:25 * libsysguy likes it when a server knows how to wipe its own…well you know 19:26 jcamins_away wahanui: search memcached 19:26 wahanui jcamins_away: what? 19:26 jcamins_away rangi: I thought we pulled the memcached configuration out of koha-conf.xml and put it into environment variables? 19:27 magnus_afk libsysguy: i forgot to mention: you could just have truncated the sessions table - much faster than running the script on it 19:27 * magnus_afk wanders off to make waffels 19:27 libsysguy heh thanks magnus_afk 19:27 rangi oh in master yeah 19:27 rangi sorry i always assume ppl are running stable 19:28 jcamins_away rangi: everyone other than libsysguy and chris_n is. :P 19:28 libsysguy never runs a stable version :p 19:28 libsysguy likes life on the edge 19:28 chris_n stable? what's that? 19:28 libsysguy ^^ 19:28 rangi so yeah those things need to be in your apache config, not the koha-conf.xml 19:29 rangi accept the syspref of course 19:29 rangi assuming of course someone has made the changes consistently 19:29 * rangi checks 19:30 libsysguy yeah i see it in koha-httpd.conf 19:31 jcamins_away It looks like SetEnv memcached_servers whatever, I think. 19:32 libsysguy yeah, ok got it switched over 19:38 cait wizzyrea: around? 19:38 wizzyrea yep, sup 19:38 cait need your help :) 19:38 wizzyrea shoot 19:40 libsysguy jcamins_away: I think to clean those records I can just call the cleanbatch function from in a script with the batchid 19:40 jcamins_away libsysguy: yeah, that would make sense. 19:40 libsysguy there are over 200 so its worth my time to find out 19:40 libsysguy lol, thats a lot of clicking 19:42 rangi libsysguy: you should test that new batch improvement thingy 19:43 rangi but not live :) 19:43 libsysguy is it pushed or needs signed off? 19:44 rangi needs signoff 19:44 rangi apparently makes it a zillion times faster 19:44 libsysguy bug 7486? 19:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7486 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED INVALID, empty columns (call number, barcode) on holds tab 19:44 libsysguy bug 7846** 19:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , get_batch_summary massive speedup 19:47 libsysguy jcamins_away: for the record the cleanup script only took off about 300 meg 19:47 libsysguy ill see what happens after i clean up all the imports 19:47 jcamins_away libsysguy: yeah, I didn't think you could have *that much* in the sessions table. 19:47 jcamins_away You would've noticed the slowdown if you did. 19:48 libsysguy well sessions are running on memcached now 19:48 libsysguy the cleanup script i wrote is taking awhile though 19:48 libsysguy maybe its deleting a bunch 19:48 * libsysguy hopes 19:55 oleonard Worst part of setting up a new Koha install: getting Zebra to work and getting holds to work 19:55 oleonard Why can't holds just work?! 19:55 * jcamins_away has often wondered that. But they sure don't. 19:55 oleonard The worst part is not getting any information about why you can't place holds 19:56 libsysguy holds don't work? 19:56 libsysguy out of the box 19:56 oleonard "No copies are available to be placed on hold" except for the copes which are available, I can see them right there 19:56 jcamins_away libsysguy: no, you never noticed that? 19:56 libsysguy no I haven't 19:56 libsysguy but then again I don't actually check out books 19:57 libsysguy i just torrent them 19:57 cait oleonard: maxreserves and a defaultdefaultdefault rule set? 19:57 oleonard Yes, both 20:00 cait hmm 20:02 wizzyrea independant branches? 20:02 oleonard No 20:03 wizzyrea hmm. MaxReserves? 20:03 wahanui MaxReserves is, like, very useful 20:03 libsysguy jcamins_away: cleaning up those imports reduced the db size to 1.6 gigs 20:03 libsysguy holy moly 20:03 jcamins_away Who called it? 20:03 jcamins_away :) 20:04 libsysguy jcamins_away is the man :p 20:04 libsysguy jcamins++ 20:09 cait wizzyrea++ 20:16 oleonard Bye #koha 20:16 Brooke cheers 20:16 Brooke Friday? 20:16 wahanui Friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday 20:34 * jcamins_away becomes really away instead of just _away 20:35 cait ooh 20:35 cait pizza? 20:35 wahanui i think pizza is in the oven. 21:22 Brooke @later tell Space_Librarian scandalous Mozart theme continues. http://www.kennedy-center.org/wno/ 21:22 huginn Brooke: The operation succeeded. 21:27 * magnus_afk wishes #koha a good night 21:28 cait good night magnuse :) 21:28 cait good night #koha 21:28 cait :) 21:29 rangi night cait and magnus_away 21:29 magnus_away :-) 21:43 libsysguy rangi did you see what I told jcamins_away about the database size? 21:43 libsysguy all the space was being hogged up my uncleaned imports….3.5 gig 21:44 rangi yeah, that'd do it 21:45 rangi yay! 21:45 rangi http://perlbuzz.com/2012/03/new-htmllint-beta-validates-html-entities.html 21:46 libsysguy awesome 21:47 rangi might have to add that into xt/ 22:05 rangi dpavlin++ 22:34 rangi !jenkins build Koha_Master now 22:34 jenkins_koha rangi: job Koha_Master build scheduled now 22:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #689 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #687 13 hr ago) 23:07 melia question about notices 23:07 melia can I add <<items.content>> to the preduedgst instead of just the <<count>> of items due? or will that not work? 23:23 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 23:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #689: FIXED in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/689/ 23:23 rangi not sure sorry melia 23:23 melia that's ok rangi. I'll just try it and see what happens. :) 23:23 libsysguy when things get checked in, it just calls AddReturn right? 23:23 rangi i think so libsysguy 23:24 libsysguy ok cool, thanks rangi 23:31 libsysguy rangi if you are around can you search cpan? 23:32 rangi for? 23:32 rangi or just in general 23:32 rangi http://search.cpan.org/ 23:32 libsysguy in general 23:32 libsysguy yeah its showing up as down for me 23:32 rangi hmm works for me 23:32 libsysguy weird