Time Nick Message 01:50 eythian https://twitter.com/#!/OMGLOLWTF/status/184427715808591872 02:22 edveal Anyone able to help me build some jQuery to limit the options in the advance search. Want to keep all the boolean just don't want quite as many options. 02:27 mtj edveal: i have done something very similar, but i've got a deadline today... :/ 02:27 edveal No problem. 02:29 mtj edveal: http://pastebin.com/a8X4Ba4q 02:30 mtj hmm, http://paste.koha-community.org is down? 02:32 mtj so, whats it doing...? :) looks like its removing various unwanted options from the advanced search OPAC page 02:32 rangi ahh probably when it went OOM the other day 02:32 * rangi will fix 02:32 mtj $('#subtypes').remove(); // remove subtypes 02:32 mtj $("legend:contains('Language')").parent().remove(); // language 02:33 mtj $(sel).find("option[value='nt']").remove(); 02:33 mtj $(sel).find("option[value^='cpn'],[value^='cfn'],[value^='pn'],[value='ln'],[value='pn,phr'],[value='acqdate']").remove(); 02:33 mtj $(sel).find("option[value='callnum'],[value='bc']").remove(); 02:34 mtj $(sel).find("option[value^='cpn']").remove(); 02:34 mtj etc.... 02:35 mtj edveal: and then re-sorting the drop-list order (as per the clients whim :) ) 02:35 edveal Yep. I testing using the following. 02:35 edveal $("#booleansearch select[name='idx'] option[value='nb']").hide(); 02:36 edveal It works fine on my system but not on theirs. I need to find out where the problem is with the rest of their stuff. 02:36 rangi paste should be back now 02:37 pastebot "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "test" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/321 02:37 mtj edveal, hmm, pass - some buggy custom js code on theirs, might be causing the fail 02:38 mtj check the js-console output, etc 02:38 mtj and, thanks rangi :) 02:38 Judit hat addogra visszamesz 02:38 Judit :) 02:38 Judit oh, sorry 02:38 mtj ok, back to it 02:38 rangi bork bork 02:39 edveal mtj yes that is my thought. So I get to diagnose the other code now. 02:40 Brooke o/ 02:41 Brooke hmph. 02:41 rangi hi Brooke 02:42 Brooke howday 02:42 Judit hi 02:42 Brooke @later tell druthb fire www.imdb.com/title/tt0116308/ 02:42 huginn Brooke: The operation succeeded. 03:01 Brooke http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/d-c-unemployed-paid-hold-places-line-outside-212609025.html 03:01 Brooke hmmm, tempting. 06:22 alex_a bonjour 06:22 wahanui bonjour, alex_a 06:25 mbalmer bonjourkohacommentcava? 06:36 magnuse kia ora #koha! 06:39 reiveune hello 06:45 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:45 reiveune bonjiour magnuse :) 06:54 rangi hi magnuse, alex_a and reiveune 06:54 magnuse ata marie rangi 06:55 reiveune hi rangi 06:59 mbalmer salut reiveune! 06:59 reiveune salut marc, ça va ? 07:01 mbalmer eh ben, oui 07:03 alex_a hi rangi 07:15 gaetan_B hello 07:15 sophie_m hi #koha 07:19 paul_p good morning #koha 07:20 rangi hi paul_p hdl gaetan_B asaurat and sophie_m 07:20 paul_p mbalmer bonjour Marc. Your space bar is broken ? ;-) 07:20 paul_p rangi just pushed the 5549 follow-up 07:21 paul_p (for fixing jenkins tests, not the "needs signoff" one) 07:21 rangi yep cool 07:21 rangi should make it happy 07:21 mbalmer paul_p, no ;) 07:22 paul_p alex_a = could you signoff bugs 7821, 7796, 7810 (plack related). thx 07:23 alex_a yes i can ! 07:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5549 : Fixing the test to only run if the test data exists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec23131ea1d87fc7f5bc98702e64fff955f22cee> 07:33 magnuse hiya Judit 07:33 alex_a paul_p: 7821 is already signed off 07:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #684 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #675 4 days 15 hr ago) 07:34 paul_p alex_a : did I wrote 7821 ? it's 7829 ! 07:34 mbalmer paul_p, the freeze does not mean that we can't continue to produce patches and sign off patches, they will just not be pushed now, right? 07:34 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/ 07:35 rangi jenkins now tests the docbook xml as well as building packages 07:35 magnuse yay 07:36 * magnuse wonders how plack and the packages will interact (and knows nothing about plack, yet) 07:37 rangi cjh is just finishing off a report on the remaining issues with plack, which should help finish that work off 07:37 paul_p mbalmer = yes and no. you can continue to produce patches, they'll be pushed in the next 2 weeks, except for the "dangerous/sensible" ones i've listed in my mail. Then 2 weeks of "string freeze", where no enhancement will be pushed, to let ppl work on translations. 07:38 rangi magnuse: it will need scripts written to start and stop it, and it will need to be able to handle mulitple sites the same way 07:38 mbalmer ok. thanks fo rth eclarification, paul. 07:38 rangi and its dependencies packaged 07:38 paul_p mbalmer and from the 2 "dangerous/sensible" ones, it seems that one is not that dangerous, as it's an alternative behaviour, the current one will still be available 07:40 magnuse paul_p: meaning gmcharlt's dom work? 07:40 magnuse rangi: not too hard to accomplish then, perhaps? 07:40 rangi hmm so you will still push new enhancements in the next two weeks? not just bug fixes? 07:41 magnuse rangi: so jenkins builds packages? just to check that they build ok, or are they available somwhere too? 07:42 rangi just to check they build 07:42 magnuse ah, ok 07:42 rangi often ppl break the packages by pushing db dependent tests in the wrong dir 07:43 rangi or by adding dependencies 07:43 rangi this catches them before the release 07:43 magnuse very cool! 07:52 magnuse Making it easier to link from the wiki to bugs in bugzilla: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template:BZ 07:53 rangi sweet! 07:59 mbalmer paul_p, I plan to prepare to a diff to remove backquotes during the freeze, so that it can be pushed right after the freeze (I guess it will touch many files, so let's do that swift, so that it does not interfere to much with other ppls work) 08:21 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 08:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #684: FIXED in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/684/ 08:21 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5549 : Fixing the test to only run if the test data exists 08:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans 08:35 alex_a dpavlin: around ? 08:37 slef a round what? 08:41 * mtj hands slef a tuit 08:42 slef a round tuit? 08:42 wahanui i think a round tuit is a small circular plate with an inscription that reads "These Tuits have been hard to come by. Especially the round ones. A ROUND TUIT This will help you to become a much more efficient worker. For years we have heard people say "I'll do it when I get round tuit"." 08:50 Oak kia ora #koha 08:52 rangi hi Oak 08:52 Oak hello rangi :) 09:00 paul_p yeah ! jenkins back to stable ! 09:01 * paul_p feel he has missed the round tuit joke... 09:03 hdl juan_sieira++ 09:12 rangi hdl? 09:12 wahanui hdl is a stellar guy and a wonderful da. 09:14 hdl rangi: just that he is working on some post hackfest thing and having some nice results... 09:15 rangi ah cool 09:15 hdl https://github.com/xercode/Data-SearchEngine-Zebra 09:15 hdl see there. 09:15 wahanui i think see there is not limitation on authorities for xml 09:16 hdl wahanui: forget hdl 09:16 wahanui hdl: I forgot hdl 09:16 hdl wahanui: forget see there 09:16 wahanui hdl: I forgot see there 09:23 rangi will definintely need plack in place for that, we found a few gotchas still, (not just scoping ones) but chris hall has a good report with that which should help it along 09:24 rangi (things that dont set undef, that dont clear objects etc, but once that is done plack should be good and then moose is usable) 09:26 hdl where is the report ? 09:26 hdl We have a google docs too. 09:26 hdl if we could share information 09:27 rangi hes finishing it off then it'll be published 09:28 rangi we should set up etherpad.koha-community.org so we dont need to use google docs too :) 09:32 mtj paul_p: about? 09:32 paul_p mtj yep, i'm about to leave for lunch :D 09:33 mtj heya, ok, quickly then... 09:33 mtj is there are good time for me to do my star-ratings re-merge ? 09:34 paul_p mtj I think you can do it now, because things will be more calm those days, after all the hackfest activity. 09:34 mtj meaning, today... or in a few days time, after you have pushed some more commits, etc... 09:34 mtj ah, ok - will do 09:35 mtj thanks :) 09:39 rangi @wunder nzwn 09:39 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (10:00 PM NZDT on March 27, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 10:13 magnuse @wunder boo 10:13 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on March 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 10:13 magnuse spot on 10:16 Oak unstable wifi connection... 10:32 mtj http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/12/03/27/0039213/murdoch-faces-allegations-of-sabotage 10:40 slef mtj: is that them cracking canal+(?) encryption to promote their NDS or whatever it's called? 10:41 * slef looks at bug 7613 10:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib 11:20 slef nope still can't get it to work. Left a comment for srdjan. 11:21 slef I suspect I'm not understanding, rather than the code being incorrect. 11:21 slef It might also be a bug in C4::ImportBatch but I hope not! 11:53 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "report help: list of serial holdings with date range - any ideas anyone?" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/322 11:59 druthb o/ 12:01 slef bravo chris_n with more patience than most for extracting version info 12:04 slef nengard: all that data *should* be in the MARC record, fields 254$a, 022$a and 362$a IIRC. 12:04 slef @marc 362 a 12:04 huginn slef: Dates of publication and/or sequential designation When both a sequential designation and a chronological designation are given, the chronological one is enclosed in parentheses. 12:04 nengard slef, not if you're using Koha serials 12:04 nengard you'd have to edit the marc record every time you received 12:04 nengard cause Koha does not have the marc holdings record 12:05 nengard so I need to query the serials and subscription tables to get the info 12:05 nengard making it much harder 12:05 slef nengard: yes, this is a bug. Can't you interrogate the item records? 12:05 nengard meaning? 12:06 slef well 952$d is acqdate. Hopefully Koha serials completes that 12:08 slef nengard: but really, you have my sympathy because Koha isn't updating MARC for serials probably how it ought, so this is a messy report and I'm not sure if I could write it without knowing cataloguing practices and Koha sysprefs of that library, plus a copy of the serials* database table schema. I don't think I've a general one handy anywhere :( 12:09 nengard 952$d is updating with the date you create the item, but that only works if the library is creating items for all received serials - and this library is not :( 12:09 nengard would we be able to add a MIN to this report in some way? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Latest_Issues 12:09 nengard to get a guess at the range? 12:11 slef you mean like: CONCAT(MIN(s.publisheddate), '-', MAX(s.publisheddate)) AS RANGE 12:11 slef give it a try 12:12 slef what's the worst that can happen? ;-) 12:12 slef (mysql thrashes forever, server dies, disks crash, data lost...) 12:12 slef biab lunch 12:13 nengard thanks slef - i mean I wasn't sure how to add MIN in there :) so you gave me an idea! 12:38 oleonard BSOD yesterday, VirtualBox upgrade this morning... which one disappeared my VMs? 13:13 schuster wizzyrea - you actually here? 13:15 oleonard Hi schuster, Oak 13:15 schuster I was looking at the koha-community website and was wondering if the links on the right for IRC meetings should just point to the Wiki page as what comes up is from 2010. 13:16 Oak hello oleonard :) 13:16 Oak kia ora #koha 13:16 schuster Events doesn't have anything since July 2011 either... wanting to keep things "fresh" so people see the community is active. 13:16 schuster heya oleonard - back from your travel afar? 13:16 oleonard Yup 13:17 schuster schuster wishes he was smart enough with the right skills to be of value at a hackfest - maybe one day... :) 13:17 oleonard schuster there was a whole crew of librarians testing and signing off 13:19 tcohen hi #koha 13:27 oleonard schuster: In fact it was the activity of the librarians which made me think hard about the possibility of a USA hackfest to include librarians 13:30 oleonard paul_p's sandbox system seemed to work really well for them (aside from the usual problems keeping updatedatabase.pl conflicts at bay) 13:31 paul_p thx oleonard you make me remember i've to switch the sandboxes to MARC21 again ;-) 13:32 paul_p schuster = I confirm you could be usefull at a hackfest. We had 12 librarians (including the 4 BibLibre ones), and they made a lot of work signing off, but also translating documentation and translating Koha 13:32 paul_p (translating not being something you've to worry ;-) ) 13:33 oleonard Hmm... unless Texas needs it's own translation? 13:36 asaurat1 Chuck Norris doesn't need translations 13:54 slef is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences#Adding_a_new_system_preference right or should it be something like 3.07.00.XXX now? 13:55 slef (not just 'XXX') 13:57 wizzyrea schuster- there have been no events added to the website because there have been no events 13:57 wizzyrea also I need to update the meetings link to pint to the new meetings website 13:57 oleonard slef I see "3.07.00.XXX" more often, but I think either way works since the RM changes it manually 13:57 wizzyrea so where did you see that 13:58 paul_p slef 3.07.00.XXX is the best option 13:58 paul_p slef and if you add 3 empty lines or more before your code, it should apply smoothly even on sandboxes ! 13:58 oleonard Oh that's interesting 13:58 paul_p (applied as 3.07.00.999, but the number is not updated) 13:59 paul_p oleonard yep, I don't remember who explained that in a bug: diff check the 3 lines before and after your patch for a merge conflict. If you've 3 empty lines, he's not confused ;-) 14:00 slef wizzyrea: there have been events. I think I remember some. 14:00 wizzyrea but no one wanted or needed or felt it appropriate to add them to koha-community. 14:00 wizzyrea apparently. 14:00 wizzyrea since it didn't happen. 14:01 wizzyrea someone could have added the hackfest, for example. 14:01 * slef looks at it 14:01 wizzyrea pretty sure kohacon isn't on there. 14:01 wizzyrea release dates are a bit fuzzy, so hate to put them on (in case we miss by days/weeks) 14:02 wizzyrea no kudos meeting this year. 14:02 slef wizzyrea: I just tried to add kohacon12 as an event and couldn't see how. 14:02 slef wizzyrea: I think pages can't be events, only posts? 14:03 wizzyrea right but it's fine to make an event post that links to your page. 14:04 slef more work :( but I'll do it when I can, probably tag the call for papers as an event 14:06 oleonard Hi cait 14:06 cait hi #koha 14:07 cait hi owen! :) 14:07 gmcharlt good morning 14:07 cait hi gmcharlt :) 14:07 cait I am on a train again... 14:07 slef ok, suggestions as to why my database doesn't know it needs to updatedatabase and add this syspref? 14:07 * slef checks his version 14:08 cait hm 14:08 cait yeah, version in the database 14:08 cait slef: which version are you looking at? 14:08 slef /cgi-bin/koha/about.pl doesn't show the version in the database? 14:08 slef cait: bug errrrrrm 14:08 cait did you pull from master during the hackfest? 14:09 cait I thought it did in the first row 14:09 slef it shows koha version. No idea if that's DBrev 14:09 slef 3.07.00.032 14:09 oleonard slef: System prefs, "local use" tab 14:09 slef oleonard: yeah, that'll let me add it manually, right? 14:09 oleonard Yes 14:10 cait hm 14:10 slef oleonard: would rather get updatedatabase to kick in. Or does this not work for the developer? 14:10 cait only if someone fixed adding localuse sysprfs 14:12 cait slef: what are you trying to do? 14:12 slef hrm, actually System prefs seemed to have picked it up from the .pref or something 14:12 cait first question? 14:12 wahanui first question is "What are you trying to do?" 14:12 cait are you trying to test a patch? 14:12 cait or are you normally updating and it doesn't work? 14:13 slef I'm trying to make a patch, including new syspref. 14:13 cait ok 14:13 slef bug 7494 14:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout 14:13 cait you want to create a new entry in updatedatabase with XXX 14:13 cait and then open kohaversion and make the verion +1 there 14:13 cait update will kick in so you can test 14:14 slef aha, open kohaversion 14:14 cait then, to make it stop looping 14:14 cait you set it back to where it was 14:14 cait and you can normally log in 14:14 slef that's the step I was missing 14:14 slef thanks cait 14:14 slef should I add that to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences#Adding_a_new_system_preference ? 14:14 cait you are welcome :) 14:15 cait hm sounds like a goo didea :) 14:21 slef ok, is there a way from CCL to limit searches to available items? 14:22 cait I think that is maybe broken 14:22 cait it doesn't work for us at the moment 14:22 slef or basically anything that C4::Search::SimpleSearch understands 14:24 slef or should I use C4::Search::getRecords? 14:27 jcamins_away slef: no. 14:27 cait slef: I mean the facet is broken- I am not sure what it's using 14:28 cait hi jcamins 14:28 jcamins slef: that answer was useless. 14:28 jcamins Please hold while I turn it coherent. ;) 14:29 cait hi asaurat :) 14:29 slef kw:a and ( ( allrecords,AlwaysMatches='' not onloan,AlwaysMatches='') and (lost,st-numeric=0) ) 14:29 slef the bit after the and is what available is to Koha 14:30 slef jcamins: and again, coherently ? ;) 14:31 jcamins slef: working on it. ;) 14:32 * jcamins just moved yesterday. 14:32 jcamins No brain, just mush. 14:32 jcamins Okay, the problem with limits (among others) is that allrecords and AlwaysMatches can't always be relied upon to work. 14:33 jcamins The not operator does work, I believe, but it's not enough to do a real limit. 14:33 jcamins At least, that's my understanding based on too much time staring into the face of my mortality. 14:33 jcamins Err... C4::Search. 14:34 slef @quote search abyss 14:34 huginn slef: No matching quotes were found. 14:34 slef @quote search staring 14:34 huginn slef: No matching quotes were found. 14:34 slef huginn: you suck 14:34 huginn slef: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 14:34 slef @quote search stare 14:34 huginn slef: 1 found: #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21,..." 14:34 cait heh 14:35 Oak O cait where were thou? 14:35 slef jcamins: 90% will do. Now to make circ display a question. 14:36 cait Oak: travelling :) 14:37 Oak hm. 14:37 Oak okay. drink water. 14:40 cait thx I will :) 14:48 Oak :) 14:56 schuster jcamins - moved as into your new apartment? all the work done? 14:56 jcamins schuster: bwahahaha! 14:56 jcamins schuster: yes we have. 14:56 schuster wizzyrea - I assume you got your answer about where the link was? 14:57 wizzyrea nope. 14:57 jcamins As for the work... well, the counter hasn't fallen off yet, so I'm going to consider the work done for now. 14:57 schuster jcamins - all fresh and clean paint and smelly!!! 14:57 jcamins Yep. 14:57 schuster wizzyrea so you were looking for the meeting link? When I click on events the page refreshes and there was a meeting link 14:57 jcamins And I noticed on the way to a client's this morning that I'm covered with a fine dusting of plaster of paris. 14:58 schuster AH! but you didn't go to the hackfest LOL....!!! 14:59 jcamins lol 15:00 schuster So I was asked by the technology group about getting a security certificate for Koha since we have student information... pro/con/necessity? 15:00 wizzyrea necessity. 15:00 wizzyrea you are probably afoul of student privacy laws. 15:00 reiveune bye 15:00 wizzyrea either way, you should be using SSL 15:00 schuster So you all use one at NEKLS? 15:00 jcamins Security certificate as in SSL, or as in governmental thing? 15:00 schuster SSL 15:01 jcamins If the former, definitely necessary. 15:01 wizzyrea yes, absolutely we do. 15:01 * wizzyrea just set up SSL this morning on something else, actually. 15:01 schuster OK thanks - we in the past have not actually promoted home access to Koha other than the opac. 15:01 jcamins Added benefit: you could use PKI-based authentication. 15:01 wizzyrea even in the opac 15:01 wizzyrea you should use SSL 15:01 wizzyrea it's patron data. 15:01 wizzyrea it should be encrypted. 15:01 schuster OK moving forward! 15:02 slef Anyone else think "See verbose embedded documentation" should be discouraged? 15:02 slef It's sometimes not embedded and when it is, it's usually not verbose. 15:03 jcamins See verbose embedded documentation? What does that even mean? 15:03 cait we have ssl too 15:03 wizzyrea where did you see it? 15:03 cait for staff and opac 15:03 slef jcamins: RTFS 15:04 slef we usually use SSL whenever we can FWIW, but the EU > US on privacy, I'm often told. 15:04 jcamins slef: ah. That's a terrible idea. 15:04 slef wizzyrea: it's in C4::Search and causing me pain just now. 15:04 wizzyrea ew yea 15:05 cait bug 737 15:05 cait bug 7537 15:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=737 enhancement, P2, ---, mjr, NEW , Map of library in search system 15:05 cait bug 7617 15:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7537 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT 15:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority search results should optionally be sorted by system order 15:05 jcamins C4::Search causes me pain. 15:05 cait well... bug 737 is a nice one too 15:05 cait we should rpelace it 15:05 cait we all know it 15:06 cait now we have to find someone real brave 15:06 jcamins And salt the earth where it lay. 15:06 slef [off] wizzyrea: I think "See verbose embedded documentation" dates from liblime's we-are-the-best-coders obfuscation drive during the 3.0 release BICBW 15:07 schuster slef - no comment 15:07 wizzyrea [off] ohhhhh 15:07 schuster jcamins - so where does 7617 stand is it waiting for sign off or has it moved up? 15:07 slef [off] that's more my opinion than anything provable though 15:08 jcamins It's waiting for sign off. 15:08 slef I may take a look at 7617 after my current bug, to learn more about search. 15:08 slef if it would help? 15:08 jcamins A good one for signing off. No string changes, and it fixes an edge case in the linker. 15:11 jcamins Sure! Any sign off on 7617 sounds good to me! :) 15:11 jcamins But it's worth pointing out that's using SearchAuthorities, which is much less horrifying than C4::Search. 15:11 jcamins It uses PQF, which is not braindead and unpleasant. 15:11 jcamins Well, maybe a little. 15:11 jcamins ... 15:11 jcamins Anyway. 15:12 oleonard The commit which added "See verbose embedded documentation" is described as "improve embedded documentation and perldoc" 15:12 jcamins Hehe. 15:12 cait [off] there are some dark places in Koha like C4::Search, perhaps ove time we can bring some light there :) 15:12 wizzyrea it's pretty fascinating to watch the webstats for the staff client in a big consortium. 15:13 wizzyrea biggish 15:14 schuster What are you using for web stats? 15:15 wizzyrea piwik 15:15 schuster Ah yes I was thinking about setting that up as well on our new VM box when we switch over. I may be asking you questions... 15:15 wizzyrea if you're using SSL you'll have to configure piwik to use SSL too. 15:20 schuster K 15:26 * cait waves 15:28 wizzyrea hey cait :) 15:28 cait hey wizzyrea :) 15:37 slef damn 15:37 slef I just failed at buildQuery and getRecords 15:37 slef I'm guessing this search evaluates to true 16:17 clrh slef: ok I'll try to think about this next time (summary on wiki edits) 16:18 cait hi chris :) 16:18 cait oh 16:19 cait confused cjh with clrh 16:19 cait *sigh* 16:19 cait hi claire of course! 16:19 jcamins clrh: hdl shared a link to his new Data::Search::Zebra, but I lost it. Do you have that handly? 16:20 clrh jcamins: in my irc logs maybe 16:20 cait yep i think it's in the logs from this morning 16:20 jcamins Thanks. I'll look there. 16:20 cait https://github.com/xercode/Dat[…]earchEngine-Zebra 16:20 cait I still had the file open 16:21 jcamins :) 16:21 jcamins Thanks! 16:22 jcamins cait++ 16:22 slef clrh: thanks. It helps me know what I'm going to see before I open the diff :) 16:22 jcamins juan_sieira: around? 16:22 clrh jcamins: I only have this one: http://paste.koha-community.org/319 16:22 clrh slef: I understand, thanks for the feedback 16:22 jcamins clrh: cait had a newer one. :) 16:23 jcamins Thanks! 16:23 clrh ha ah :) new work I didnt see this yet! great !:) 16:24 cait jcamins: done :) 16:24 jcamins clrh: with a few bugs that I will report to juan_sieira if he's around. 16:24 cait pehaps we could start adding bug reports? 16:24 cait with a link to the repository 16:24 clrh jcamins: maybe you can use the "issue tool in github" 16:24 jcamins Hm. 16:24 cait easier to comment, or on the wiki 16:24 cait or that 16:24 juan_sieira yes 16:24 cait hi juan_sieira :) 16:24 juan_sieira hi cait 16:25 jcamins Ah, here's juan_sieira! :) 16:25 cait jcamins: what was the other bug number? 16:25 juan_sieira hi jcamins 16:25 jcamins cait: bug 7537 16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7537 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT 16:25 jcamins juan_sieira: Data::SearchEngine::Zebra does not take care of destroying the Zebra ResultSet. 16:25 cait ooh 16:26 cait I hope for you that has a test plan 16:26 jcamins cait: I think it does. 16:26 jcamins magnuse writes good test plans. 16:26 juan_sieira no, its in very very alpha state 16:26 cait ok it has 16:26 cait :) 16:26 juan_sieira and needs to destroy zebra conns .. 16:27 juan_sieira a long etc 16:27 kyleh bug 7485 could use a signoff, it's a one line fix, should make it into 3.8 16:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7485 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add 16:28 jcamins juan_sieira: hehe. I noticed that problem, and I noticed that it only supports "biblios" and "authorities" Zebra databases. 16:28 juan_sieira I'm now including facets and another info, and next I plan to add the other features 16:28 cait jcamins: wher ecan I see if I am actually using icu ? 16:28 jcamins cait: open up... 16:28 juan_sieira doing a more standard Data::SearchEngine::Zebra 16:28 cait I don't remember confiugring it, but the systempreference suggests I did 16:29 jcamins No, the systempreference is set to match the way it was in 3.6. 16:29 jcamins Even though that's probably wrong. 16:29 jcamins Because we don't want to cause any regressions. 16:29 jcamins etc/zebradb/etc/default.idx 16:29 cait there was no syspref in 3.6? 16:29 cait and shoulnd't it be set to not using icu by default then? 16:30 jcamins No, because if we set it to not using ICU by default, we'll break some installations. 16:30 jcamins There was a discussion of this on the bug. 16:30 cait ok 16:30 cait I didn't understand that 16:30 cait now I do 16:30 cait so people will acutally want to set it to "not use" to fix a bug? 16:30 cait or... still confused 16:30 jcamins The quoting was all wrong, thanks to the fact that I did most of the tracings work, and I've been using ICU for years. 16:31 jcamins Right. 16:31 cait ah 16:31 cait what do I see in that file? 16:31 jcamins And by "all wrong," I mean "on certain peculiar subjects, there will be problems." ;) 16:31 jcamins The last line in the first stanza. We want to know whether it says charmap or icusomething. 16:32 cait charmap 16:32 jcamins Okay, you're not using ICU. 16:32 cait so not using 16:32 cait ocol 16:32 cait cool, thanks :) 16:32 jcamins But you also haven't managed to run into the bug that UseICU was added to fix. 16:32 cait not on this installation 16:33 cait but I think I have seen it on an instalation where we use 653 16:33 cait with no authorities 16:33 jcamins Yup. That's the issue. 16:34 jcamins juan_sieira: you know what would probably be even better with Data::SearchEngine::Zebra? Make it return resultsets in the exact same data structure as Data::SearchEngine::Solr. 16:34 jcamins This may already be your plan. 16:34 jcamins If it is, that's a good plan. :) 16:36 cait ok, packing up laptop 16:36 cait hope to be back a little bit later 16:36 cait jcamins++ magnuse++ for great test plans! 16:36 jcamins :) 16:37 juan_sieira yes, it's my plan 16:39 juan_sieira solr and zebra must have the same results 16:39 juan_sieira if possible 16:42 jcamins juan_sieira: agreed. This would also simplify destroying the ZOOM ResultSet... you could get the relevant data, populate the appropriate structure, and then destroy the ZOOM ResultSet before returning? 16:42 juan_sieira yes 16:43 jcamins Isn't it great the way you can't work on a project two days before I'm telling you what to do? :P 16:44 juan_sieira :) 16:45 juan_sieira all opinions about it are welcome 16:46 gaetan_B bye! 16:46 * jcamins has lots of opinions. 16:46 jcamins You may hav noticed. 16:46 * jcamins tosses wizzyrea the duct tape. 16:46 juan_sieira :)) 16:46 juan_sieira yes 16:47 wizzyrea there, that's better. 16:47 wizzyrea sorry about that. :P 16:49 * slef finishes planting his head against this brick wall 16:50 jcamins slef: what are you trying to do? 16:51 slef bug 7494 16:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout 16:52 slef jcamins: trying to make the fallback search limit itself to available items 16:52 slef I think actually zebra index lag is biting me 16:52 slef and it has worked for about 30mins 16:55 jcamins "Available items" is a bit problematic. 16:56 wizzyrea problematic is being generous. 16:56 slef why so? 16:56 jcamins What can I say? I'm a generous kind of guy. :P 16:57 wizzyrea because you have to define "available for what, exactly" 16:57 jcamins At least when I'm talking about other people's problems. 16:57 jcamins Because the search doesn't actually work in GRS-1. 16:57 slef not onloan or lost 16:57 slef that'll do 16:58 slef although maybe it'll find withdrawn items 16:58 slef hmmm 16:58 jcamins It'll not find items that are available, too. 16:58 jcamins With GRS-1. 16:58 slef some or all? 16:59 slef @query available 16:59 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2396 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add a syspref to block the ability to place next available hold in OPAC on titles that only have lost items. 16:59 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2708 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Checked out items saying available 16:59 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3792 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Checking out on-hold item to someone else replaces item-level hold with next available 16:59 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4494 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Staff client incorrectly reports no copies available to be placed on hold 16:59 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5463 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , limit to available shows on hold items 16:59 slef @query GRS-1 16:59 huginn slef: No results for "GRS-1." 16:59 slef jcamins: does bugzilla know this? 16:59 gmcharlt slef: it's hiding 17:02 jcamins slef: somewhere it does. 17:03 jcamins slef: the issue is that if you have *one* item marked lost, or *one* item checked out, Zebra may conclude that the entire work is unavailable. 17:03 slef jcamins: wahey! 17:04 jcamins gmcharlt is paving the wy to fixing that. 17:04 slef jcamins: index or search misconfiguration, or zebra bug? 17:04 jcamins @query DOM 17:04 jcamins The former. 17:04 wahanui well, the former is much more complicated. 17:04 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records 17:04 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7421 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC authorities DOM indexing mode 17:04 jcamins Unfortunately, it's a permanent issue wih GRS-1. 17:06 jcamins Hence my desire to switch to DOM. 17:07 jcamins Well, actually, my desire to switch to DOM has more to do with relator terms. 17:35 alaquerre Hi everyone. Quick question. Some of our user like to go in the patron section to do the check in. The problem we have is that the "Renew" checkbox is automatically selected when we enter in the page. Is this configurable ? 17:39 alaquerre Just to complete, they go in the patron section often when user know they have fine. They need to return all documents. They click on "Renew/Return" button. Since the documents are already selected, they are renew and not return. The fine is they erase etc... 17:44 wizzyrea I'd file a bug on that 17:45 wizzyrea or, train people to not do that. 17:49 wizzyrea well that's a relief. At least they let you download the old version of colloquy still. 17:49 jcamins For a temporary solution, you might try using jQuery to automatically deselect the renew buttons. 17:49 * wizzyrea grumps about things that only work with lion. 17:49 wizzyrea that's probably a better solution actually 17:49 wizzyrea . 17:49 alaquerre Wizzy... interresting idea. 17:50 alaquerre jcamins oups :-) 17:50 alaquerre Wizzyrea : Is there already a ticket on this or we need to create one ? 17:51 wizzyrea dunno, on second thought i think you should just nuke them with jquery 17:51 alaquerre ok thanks! 17:51 wizzyrea because that's really probably specific to you 17:51 wizzyrea and that's why we have intranetuserjs 17:52 wizzyrea @quote get 123 17:52 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 17:52 wizzyrea to compensate for these ^^ ;) 17:54 alaquerre Totally agree. :-) On a general note, how do we determine if something need a sys. pref. Is there a commity that take this decision ? It's more to understand how we should code stuff to make sure that will get in international Koha. 17:55 wizzyrea generally speaking, if you are thinking of doing something that you think someone else might not want, you should add a syspref. 17:55 jcamins alaquerre: if you can't get anyone to agree on the functionality, a syspref is needed. 17:55 wizzyrea but there's no committee 17:55 jcamins If everyone thinks it's a brilliant idea, you might not need one. 17:55 jcamins *Might*. ;) 17:55 wizzyrea and most new features, if they are contentious, will need one simply so people don't have to use it if they don't want to 17:56 * jcamins goes to have some lunch. 17:56 Oak sleep time. me go now. later guys. 17:56 wizzyrea later oak 17:56 Oak :) 17:56 wizzyrea have a nice lunch jcamins_away 17:57 alaquerre got it. Thanks for the infos. see ya! 18:08 * cait waves 18:10 cait jcamins_away: still around somehow? 18:25 * magnuse waves 18:37 jcamins Woohoo! 18:37 jcamins cait++ 18:38 magnuse cait++ always! 18:38 cait magnuse: you have a reason to :) 18:38 cait jcamins: more 18:38 cait jcamins: more bugs plz :) 18:38 magnuse cait++ for signing off 7537! :-) 18:39 jcamins cait: I'm sure I can find something. 18:39 cait yep 18:39 magnuse cait: i did one... let me see 18:39 cait and your search probably works better than mine 18:39 cait we are at a stationright now 18:39 cait hurry! heh 18:39 jcamins Bug 7715 18:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Add biblio.subtitle and appropriate mappings to MARC frameworks 18:39 magnuse bug 7436 18:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7436 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE 18:39 jcamins Bug 6874 18:39 cait I will take on 7436 first 18:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC 18:40 cait but trying to make brnaches for all of them now as fast as I can :) 18:40 magnuse i even did de-DE especially for you, cait :-) 18:40 magnuse woohoo! 18:40 jcamins Ooh, this is a good one. 18:40 jcamins Bug 7695. 18:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7695 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , Boolean operator AND in XSLT gets translated 18:40 cait oh 18:40 cait I thought that was fixed 18:40 cait okok 18:40 cait stop 18:40 cait for now :) 18:40 magnuse hehe 18:42 cait conflict in 7695 18:42 jcamins Aww. 18:42 cait xsl files 18:42 cait detail pages 18:43 cait I will check if I can resolve 18:43 cait ok, probably will kick me out again 18:46 mbalmer irc client indicates someone talked to me , but I see noting in the backlog I have 18:46 magnuse cait: i get the error on 7695 too 18:47 cait yeah 18:47 cait I am fixig 18:47 cait it's the change for useICU :) 18:47 cait with the different quoting 18:47 cait easy to resolve 18:48 magnuse ah, yeah there were some patches in the same area there 18:49 cait should be ok 18:49 cait don#t worry 18:49 * magnuse breathes a sigh of relief 18:49 rangi Morning 18:49 magnuse kia ora rangi! 18:51 cait good morning rangi :) 18:51 cait will prove show me if I left conflict markers? 18:52 * magnuse thinks it should do that 18:52 sekjal prove xt 18:56 cait hm 18:56 rangi There is a 00 test 18:56 cait 00-valid-xml.t failed... 18:56 rangi Look in t 18:56 cait that's probably a sign I did something wrong in the xsl files :P 18:56 rangi For conflict markers 18:57 magnuse cait: i could easily do a new patch 18:57 magnuse i did say "This will probably need a rebase if Bug 7092 gets pushed." (and 7092 is pushed now) 18:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7092 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly 19:10 magnuse cait++ 19:24 nengard so much cool stuff in 3.8 that needs documenting!! Been doing it all day: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=summary 19:24 rangi ohh new newsletter 19:24 rangi danielg++ 19:25 magnuse nengard++ 19:25 magnuse danielg++ 19:25 nengard danielg++ 19:25 nengard :) 19:26 rangi nengard++ 19:27 nengard of course writing documentation means I find bugs ? 19:30 jcamins nengard: did you already document bug 7284? 19:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements 19:30 nengard no 19:30 nengard you want to do it?? :) 19:30 magnuse cait: i took the liberty of marking 7695 as signed off for you 19:30 jcamins Nope. Thanks for asking, though. 19:30 magnuse lol 19:30 jcamins Actually, with the amount of text in that commit message, you could probably just copy and paste into the appropriate sections, and add Docbook tags. 19:31 wizzyrea ^^ was gonna say 19:34 jcamins Actually, that's true of most of my commit messages, isn't it? 19:35 jcamins At some point I figured out how much text I'd written in commit messages. It was impressive. 19:35 rangi i bet i could do stats on that :) 19:36 jcamins rangi: bet my words-commit ratio would be near the top. 19:36 rangi i wonder what your length in irc is 19:36 jcamins From 7284 alone! 19:36 rangi thd still wins i bet 19:36 * rangi will rerun the stats 19:37 cait hehe 19:37 * cait waves 19:37 jcamins No bet there. 19:37 rangi !jenkins build Master_Packages now 19:37 jenkins_koha rangi: job Master_Packages build scheduled now 19:50 rangi http://irc.koha-community.org/ircstats/ 19:51 rangi jenkins_koha: 43.9 19:51 jenkins_koha rangi did you mean me? Unknown command '43.9' 19:51 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help! 19:51 rangi heh 19:51 rangi jcamins: 43.9 19:52 magnuse words per commit? 19:52 wizzyrea my quote is pretty funny 19:52 rangi it is :) 19:53 jcamins Hehe. 19:53 rangi mine is prophecy 19:53 wizzyrea yours is too 19:53 rangi :) 19:53 wizzyrea kf's is funny too 19:53 rangi typical jcamins is talking about indexing 19:53 rangi :) 19:53 oleonard kf isn't far from taking number 2 spot. That's good news. 19:53 jcamins rangi: lol 19:54 * wizzyrea will have to talk more! 19:55 rangi :) 19:56 rangi yeah 6000 lines .. that wont be long 19:56 rangi 20k for you wizzyrea 19:56 schuster off to a meeting have a great evening/day everyone! 19:56 rangi get cracking 19:56 rangi cya schuster 19:57 * wizzyrea suddenly has nothing to say 19:57 wizzyrea >.> 19:57 wizzyrea <.< 19:57 wizzyrea oh wait, yes I do - most used words 19:57 wizzyrea "think" and "about" 19:58 rangi heh 19:58 bag nice still in the top 20 :) 19:58 jcamins Wow... I've said almost as much as paul. 19:59 wizzyrea all about indexing. 19:59 wizzyrea j/k j/k 19:59 bag @wunder 93109 19:59 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 16.0°C (12:58 PM PDT on March 27, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Falling). 19:59 bag @wunder 93105 19:59 huginn bag: The current temperature in Samarkand, Santa Barbara, California is 17.1°C (12:57 PM PDT on March 27, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Falling). 19:59 jcamins wizzyrea: no, just mostly. :P 20:02 * jcamins calls it a day. 20:02 jcamins Bye. 20:14 Brooke o/ 20:14 Brooke natec? 20:14 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE 20:15 NateC :) 20:18 wizzyrea hey brooke 20:18 Brooke howday 20:23 magnuse so, what's the optimal format for a sql file (for the web installer) these days? 20:24 pastebot "magnuse" at 109.189.7.19 pasted "something like this?" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/323 20:28 oleonard Bye #koha 20:28 Brooke cheers 20:30 wizzyrea magnuse: i wondered the same thing 20:31 * wizzyrea doesn't want to get yelled at for doing mysqlisms. 20:31 wizzyrea :( 20:31 magnuse yay, not just me being stupid, then :-) 20:31 * magnuse neither 20:33 magnuse oh well, i'll give it a try 20:41 magnuse bug 7837 if anyone wants to shout at me 20:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7837 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , nb-NO z3950servers.sql misses column names 20:41 magnuse :-) 20:42 magnuse g'night #koha 20:42 Brooke night 20:45 rangi !jenkins build Master_Packages now 20:45 jenkins_koha rangi: job Master_Packages build scheduled now 20:57 rangi Joubu++ 20:58 sekjal time for my bus home. night, all! 20:58 Brooke cheers 21:01 rangi http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?authtype=guest&custid=s9421397&groupid=main 21:01 rangi all kotui sites are down 21:02 rangi hey cait 21:02 Brooke hi Cait :D 21:03 cait hi rangi and Brooke :) 21:05 Culiforge is apsx for apache needed for a koha install? 21:06 rangi wtf is apsx ? 21:06 wizzyrea ^^ 21:06 wizzyrea lol. 21:07 wizzyrea "active server page framework" something microsoft. 21:07 wizzyrea gonna go with no on that one. 21:07 rangi eeew 21:07 rangi hell no 21:09 Culiforge ok, it's asking me while it's installing cpan stuff so I thought I'd ask.. thanks 21:09 wizzyrea oh, use packages where/when you can. Much easier. 21:09 * gmcharlt hands rangi a stiff drink 21:09 rangi what distro are you using? 21:09 rangi if its recent debian or debian based (like ubuntu or mint) 21:09 wizzyrea hm, maybe that should be the 4th or 5th question 21:10 rangi everything is packaged 21:10 rangi shouldnt need cpan 21:10 Culiforge I'd like to but the school system where the libraries are is using Fedora (ugh 21:10 wizzyrea oo. 21:12 Culiforge yeah, i've already got it up and running on my ubuntu.. took me like 10 min to install it.. but the boss wants it on fedora14... 21:13 wizzyrea :( 21:13 wizzyrea bummer 21:14 ibeardslee Culiforge's boss -- 21:14 Culiforge yeah, and it's a public school system so yeah, try and tell a 'little government' like that they're doing it wrong eh.. 21:15 rangi back in the olden days 21:15 rangi like 2003 21:15 rangi we had someone make rpm for the dependencies 21:15 Culiforge s'ok, though.. I sold them on Koha by running it off my home pc running ubuntu 11.10 21:15 rangi nice :) 21:16 Culiforge rangi: where's that 'someone' now.. I could use them :) 21:16 rangi disappeared into the ether 21:17 rangi but in theory 21:17 rangi alien 21:17 rangi would get you most of the way 21:17 Culiforge rangi: after doing this install on fedora, I may just learn to sightread traditional chinese 21:17 rangi http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/11/alien-command-examples/ 21:18 Culiforge rangi: neato, I'll check that out.. thanks. looks spiffy 21:20 rangi ymmv :) 22:12 jcamins_away I'm online, yes? 22:14 jcamins_away @wunder 11375 22:14 huginn jcamins_away: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 10.0°C (5:42 PM EDT on March 27, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 8%. Dew Point: -23.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Rising). 22:14 jcamins_away Yep, I am. 22:16 cait ? 22:16 cait :) 22:21 jcamins Checking whether I had Internet. 22:22 Space_Librarian @wunder Wellington, nz 22:22 huginn Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on March 28, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising). 22:25 jcamins windows-- 23:18 Space_Librarian interesting... so. Our Ebsco guy just phoned to tell us that everything's out. Was surprised that we knew 23:18 rangi wow 23:18 rangi they only phoned now? 23:18 rangi its been down since 5am nztime 23:18 Space_Librarian Apparently scheduled maintenance in Boston went horribly wrong. And they don't when it'll be up again. 23:18 rangi ouch! 23:19 Space_Librarian Yeah, I said I'd noticed, and saw it was the same on twitter. 23:19 Space_Librarian (He's from Sydney - slow guys). 23:19 rangi some of the kotui sites are back 23:19 rangi very slow tho 23:19 rangi so looks like recovering 23:19 eythian I can't see them at all. 23:19 Space_Librarian orly? He wouldn't give us a time it's be back though. 23:19 Space_Librarian it'd* 23:19 eythian oh, there they go 23:20 eythian yeah, that was a good 30 second load time 23:20 rangi feels to me like they are under heavy load 23:20 rangi maybe got half the server farm back up or something 23:20 Space_Librarian it was world wide, and he said it was massive. 23:20 rangi heads will roll 23:20 Space_Librarian yes they will. 23:21 Space_Librarian How much revenue have they lost from this outage?! Yikes. 23:28 Brooke o/ 23:29 jcamins Space_Librarian: even more than the cost of renovations in this apartment! 23:29 Brooke jcamins: make sure you pick a reliable alternative to open source renovators. ;) 23:30 Brooke I think the Tea Party tossed the servers in the harbour. 23:30 jcamins Brooke: lol 23:30 Space_Librarian jcamins: ain't that the truth. I must say, I love the status update on their website. 23:31 Brooke now now, share the amusement, shells. :) 23:31 Space_Librarian Seeing if I can find it again 23:32 Space_Librarian "Due to routine maintenance currently underway, we are experiencing temporary service interruptions for EBSCOhost and EDS users. We apologize for this inconvenience and assure you that our engineering team is working on this top priority to restore service as soon as possible." 23:32 Brooke The DeathStar had a couple of hiccups after a rogue attack by disgruntled teens. We'll get right on it. 23:33 Brooke Extremely Bad Service Call it Off. 23:33 Space_Librarian lol. 23:46 * jcamins ponders flashing his router with DD-WRT. Why? Because he can.