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01:20 rangi hi BobB
01:20 BobB hi rangi
01:28 Space_Librarian hey rangi and BobB
01:28 * Space_Librarian is listening to the cricket
02:17 * cait waqves
02:17 * cait waves
02:19 eythian go to bed, cait
02:19 cait wish I could :)
02:24 BobB hi Space_Librarian; hi ethyian
02:45 cait-m 2
02:46 * cait-m waves
02:50 rangi on the train?
02:51 cait-m Yep
02:52 cait-m Only 6 min for changing trains latsr
02:52 cait-m Hope that works
02:57 * wizzyrea waves
02:57 rangi sup wizzyrea
03:04 cait-m Waves again
03:11 wizzyrea hey cait
03:12 cait hey liz :)
03:30 mtj eythian: about for a csvtomarc.pl question?
03:30 eythian yarp
03:30 mtj ok, quickly....
03:31 mtj ive just started using the script, with great success, heres my Q
03:31 mtj is it possible to create item (952) records from just a bib.csv file?
03:32 mtj or must one use an aditional items.csv file too? (for linking/matching)
03:33 eythian mtj: yeah it is
03:33 eythian it'll by default create 1 item per bib record if there's no other items, and if you put something into an items field.
03:33 mtj ok, using the splitcount function, etc
03:34 Amit_Gupta heya bag
03:35 eythian mtj: splitcount, and there's something else that just takes a number.
03:35 eythian Depending on the nature of your input file.
03:36 mtj eythian: ok - its not a big problem currently, and thanks - the script is pretty awesome!
03:36 eythian mtj: oh, not splitcount: itemparts
03:37 mtj its very useful for me, sure... but even more useful for libraries attempting their own bib imports :)
03:37 eythian mtj: special:count is the other one
03:38 eythian Ah right, we use it mostly for migrations.
03:39 mtj yep, imports migrations, etc
03:41 mtj hmm, am i running an old version from your repo - that feature is missing from my file :/
03:42 eythian are you sure? I think it was one of the original features.
03:43 mtj mason@gw1:~/g/clients/catalyst/koha/import/csv$ git log csvtomarc.pl
03:44 mtj commit 34c8f24ae7a17c2df0b87c343e55338097ee4af7
03:44 mtj Date: Wed Oct 26 12:28:41 2011 +1300
03:44 mtj .
03:44 mtj i may have an old oct-2011 version ?
03:45 eythian hmm
03:45 eythian e5121250 (Robin Sheat 2011-10-10 14:15:30 +1300 1073) } elsif ($field =~ /^special:count/) {
03:45 eythian although I thought it was older than that.
03:45 eythian Although, I think I ran perltidy over it all around then.
03:46 eythian because that's a very popular commit
03:46 Amit_Gupta heya mtj
03:46 mtj ahh, i was grepping for 'itemparts', no results..
03:46 eythian Oh, no, I merged it into 3.4 the hacky way, so that's as old as the history gets.
03:46 mtj heya Amit_Gupta
03:48 mtj ok, no probs... :)
03:48 mtj eythian: so... ive got a recent-ish copy?
03:48 eythian yeah. You could grab the one from the nzei_import nranch, it's the most current.
03:49 eythian I need to develop a better way to work on it really.
03:49 eythian Probably seperate it from Koha a bit more and have its own repo.
03:50 rangi could put in the import repo on git.koha-community.org
03:51 eythian that exists?
03:51 eythian Cos that would be suitable alright
03:52 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=contrib/migration-tools.git;a=summary
03:52 rangi empty at the mo
03:52 rangi but looks like a good spot to me
03:52 rangi ping druthb and/or gmcharlt
03:52 mtj ah, yep i grabbed it from the 'import_branch' branch...
03:53 mtj http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=import/csv/csvtomarc.pl;h=2a1fbcda7e546f64d607c95cbbd12dce14ddbe7e;hb=refs/heads/import_branch
03:53 eythian mtj: yeah, that tends to get updated when we finish something.
03:55 mtj i just recently installed cgit on my repo, man its FAST!!
03:58 mtj cgit: 4 seconds to load all my git repos.., gitweb: 90-ish seconds :/
03:59 mtj something to consider for git.catalyst.net.nz ?
04:01 eythian not bad
04:02 eythian Dunno, I'll mention it perhaps. Not even sure who runs it.
04:06 mtj cool, i just grabbed the newer version from 'nzei' branch, all good here :)
04:10 mtj (adds another beer to the catalyst bar-tab)
04:12 eythian heh
04:42 mtj hmm marc21 question....
04:43 mtj which marc field does additional author info go into?
04:43 mtj not 100$a ... but ?
04:43 wizzyrea @marc 245
04:43 huginn wizzyrea: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8]
04:43 * wizzyrea is not a marc expert
04:43 wizzyrea (not like some people)
04:44 eythian @marc 700
04:44 huginn eythian: An added entry in which the entry element is a personal name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8]
04:44 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
04:44 mtj http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd700.html perhaps?
04:44 mtj @marc 700
04:44 huginn mtj: An added entry in which the entry element is a personal name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8]
04:44 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
04:44 rangi @marc 710
04:44 huginn rangi: An added entry in which the entry element is a corporate name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8]
04:44 rangi theres lots of 700's
04:44 rangi for authors
04:44 rangi depending on the types
04:44 rangi and
04:44 rangi @marc 110
04:44 huginn rangi: A corporate name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,k,l,n,p,t,u,4,6,8]
04:44 rangi etc
04:44 eythian if it would be 100, it goes 700, and 110->710, etc.
04:44 eythian (roughly anyway)
04:45 mtj gotcha, 700$a is the biz here ;)
05:26 gmcharlt @later tell cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-equinox.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/dom-biblio
05:26 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
05:31 eythian when a suggestion is approved/rejected, does the suggester get an email?
05:32 rangi cant remember
05:32 eythian There's no syspref either way...
05:33 rangi it might be an enhanced message thing
05:33 eythian from google, I think if you have a template set up, then it'll send something, if not it won't.
05:34 rangi sounds plausible
05:45 gmcharlt hi cait
05:45 cait hi gmcharlt :)
05:51 cait gmcharlt: I got your message from huginn
05:52 cait gmcharlt: travelling today and tomorrow - perhaps I can test after that, if that's what you wanted me to do?
05:52 gmcharlt cait: thanks!
05:53 gmcharlt (and yes, that's what I was hoping you might do when you had a chance)
05:53 cait :)
05:53 cait Irma asked about searching for 'see also' from the authorities last night
05:53 cait I hope we can make that happen for 3.10
05:55 cait somehow... but first dom indexing :)
05:56 eythian what is DOM indexing of bibs when it's at home?
05:56 eythian it sounds interesting.
05:56 gmcharlt eythian: http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/record-model-domxml.html
05:57 cait eythian: it will be great ;)
05:57 gmcharlt but the elevator pitch - it's an indexing mode of Zebra's that allows for a *lot* more flexibility than the GRS-1 Zebra filter that we've all come to know and hate
05:57 cait eythian: like proper indexing for 880 fields great
05:57 eythian @marc 880
05:57 huginn eythian: The fully content-designated representation, in a different script, of another field in the same record. Field 880 is linked to the associated regular field by subfield $6 (Linkage). The first and second indicator positions in field 880 have the same definition and values as the indicators in the associated field. The subfield codes in field 880 are the same as those defined in the associated field (1 more message)
05:57 cait it's the field for original scripts
05:57 cait and the field it corresponds to is in a subfield
05:57 eythian hmm. cool.
05:58 cait which at the moment makes us copy information to 9xx fields... and that is not nice
05:58 cait so you can have them indexed separately as title, author... etc.
05:59 * gmcharlt looks a clock, realizes he doesn't want to turn this into an all-nighter
05:59 eythian ah, sweet
05:59 gmcharlt good night
05:59 rangi sleep well gmcharlt
05:59 eythian try not to dream of XML
06:00 cait sleep well :)
06:06 eythian http://apenwarr.ca/log/?m=201203#26 <-- "I mean, we are running Access in Wine in X11 on Linux in an isolated user account on our server slice that revision controls your Access database in git, and we're displaying it using VNC in your web browser in Flash."
06:07 eythian http://apenwarr.ca/log/?m=201203#26 <-- "I mean, we are running Access in Wine in X11 on Linux in an isolated user account on our server slice that revision controls your Access database in git, and we're displaying it using VNC in your web browser in Flash." (reposted for mbalmer's benefit ;)
06:10 mbalmer wow ;)
06:15 magnuse kia ora #koha
06:15 rangi hi magnuse
06:15 magnuse hiya rangi!
06:15 magnuse you still here? :-)
06:16 rangi yeah doing a go live
06:16 jransom heya Magnus
06:16 jransom its go live for hlt tonight
06:16 magnuse KIA ORA jransom! :-)
06:16 jransom man I wish i was coming to kohacon12
06:16 * magnuse too
06:17 magnuse i wish we were both coming, that is
06:17 jransom are you not going either?
06:17 magnuse sadly not
06:17 eythian it's like right next door for you
06:17 rangi jransom: how many koha go lives now?
06:17 eythian you could just about walk there!
06:17 rangi i think this is your 5th ?
06:17 jransom have you put a bid in for KohaCon2013
06:17 magnuse jransom: well, the reason is not so sad, we're having a baby june 26th if all goes to plan
06:17 rangi in 12.5 years
06:18 rangi yay!
06:18 jransom reason is brilliant :)
06:18 jransom congratulations Magnus
06:18 mbalmer eythian, that is for sure a strange setup ;)
06:18 jransom that is so exciting :)
06:18 magnuse thanks jransom
06:18 jransom i wonder if it is the 5th
06:18 jransom either 4th or 5th
06:18 rangi 99
06:18 rangi version 1.0 then
06:19 jransom this is your 99th?
06:19 jransom ah - sorry
06:19 rangi heh no 1999 was my first ;)
06:19 rangi but yeah it probably is
06:19 rangi something like that
06:19 rangi then 1.2
06:19 rangi then 2.2 then 3.2
06:19 jransom so this the 5th then
06:19 rangi i think so
06:20 jransom last one was a huge one and totally uneventful - as a good upgrade should be :)
06:20 magnuse 5th go live? for hlt?
06:20 rangi heres hoping this is the same
06:20 rangi yep
06:20 magnuse yay
06:20 rangi 5th major version upgrade
06:21 rangi the main difference in this one is moving to using the packages
06:21 magnuse going from 3.2.3 to?
06:21 magnuse yay!
06:21 magnuse packages++
06:21 rangi 3.6.4
06:21 magnuse @karma packages
06:21 huginn magnuse: Karma for "packages" has been increased 10 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 10.
06:21 magnuse packages++
06:22 magnuse and once the packages have l10n they will be totally awesome...
06:23 jransom i don't understand them sadly - bu they seem to make people happy
06:23 magnuse eythian: did you say once that you just run the normal "translate" script on the packages to install additional languages, or did i mis-hear something?
06:23 magnuse yeah, just mention the packages and my face lights up in a smile :-)
06:23 rangi jransom: means to go to 3.8.0 we run apt-get update
06:23 rangi apt-get upgrade
06:23 wahanui apt-get upgrade is, like, a lot easier ;-)
06:23 rangi finished
06:23 magnuse w00t!1!
06:24 eythian magnuse: no, that's right
06:24 rangi its so easy, waitaki is doing their own ones on their testing server now
06:24 magnuse waitaki++
06:25 eythian @karma <
06:25 huginn eythian: < has neutral karma.
06:25 eythian @karma <!
06:25 huginn eythian: Karma for "<!" has been increased 6 times and decreased 115 times for a total karma of -109.
06:25 eythian everyone hates XML comments
06:25 magnuse eythian: ah, so need to mess around with the rebased patches from the l10n branch, then...
06:26 eythian magnuse: howso?
06:26 magnuse s/so need/so no need/
06:26 eythian oh, yes
06:26 eythian that makes more sense :)
06:26 magnuse :-)
06:27 magnuse nice: http://meetings.koha-community.org/
06:27 magnuse gmcharlt++
06:27 jransom oh wow that sound seasy
06:27 jransom so ill do my own upgrades then ?
06:28 jransom and can therefore use my system support budget for bug fixing and enhancements :)
06:28 rangi yup, with the new setup we asked for, you will have a testing machine so you can do it there check its ok, then do it live
06:28 rangi thats the plan
06:28 magnuse yay
06:29 magnuse guten morgen cait
06:29 jransom heya Cait
06:30 cait guten morgen magnuse - evening jo :)
06:30 eythian jransom: also STDC has it set up so that every week or so, the production system data is copied into staging, so they can play around with changing settings to see what it'll change without risking changing production.
06:30 eythian (copied automatically)
06:31 * magnuse will have a setup like that for his customers, one of these days
06:31 eythian it's pretty easy, I think it took me a few hours to make work, now it's all automatic
06:31 eythian just a script that grabs the latest backup and copies it.
06:31 jransom :)
06:31 magnuse yeah, i'll get a round tuit
06:33 rangi easy with the packages :)
06:33 magnuse yeah packages++
06:35 jransom You have a baby coming magnus; you won't get anything much done for a yeah or 2 :)
06:35 magnuse well, i hope it's not quite as bad as that
06:36 magnuse but i do wonder how it will work out, especially with my office at home...
06:37 magnuse they do sometimes sleep, right?
06:37 magnuse right??
06:38 rangi yep, actually they sleep a lot the first few months
06:38 jransom mostly during the day :)
06:38 rangi its once they are crawling that your life ends
06:38 magnuse woohoo :-)
06:38 magnuse hehe
06:39 rangi :)
06:39 jransom i had one that screamed for 6 weeks
06:39 magnuse and i suspect there is an urge to just stand and stare at them even if they are sleeping?
06:39 rangi yup
06:39 jransom definitely
06:39 rangi but the urge to go play legos with them when they are older is even more irresitable
06:39 magnuse yay
06:39 jransom and to stay sitting cuddling when they fall asleep in your arms
06:40 magnuse awww... :-)
06:40 jransom I go drinking and dancing with mine now ... my how time passes
06:40 magnuse hehe
06:41 magnuse and one of them has a patch in koha! :-)
06:41 magnuse guess i have to wait a little bit before that happens...
06:41 cait heh :)
06:41 magnuse but we'll get there!
06:41 rangi the trick is to just get them computer too https://secure.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5794635194/in/photostream
06:41 magnuse heh
06:41 jransom oh that is so cute
06:41 cait it is
06:41 jransom connor was talking about oha tonight over dinner
06:42 eythian anyone want a super-easy bug to sign off? bug 7824
06:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7824 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Typo in opac-userupdate.tt causes the first name to not show in the header
06:42 jransom and what he would do if he came at spent school holidays at Catalyst
06:42 jransom :)
06:42 magnuse wow, sound like someone did something right, then :-)
06:42 eythian jransom: I assume you're aware that we have a lot of high-schoolers here over the hols then?
06:43 jransom Don might have mentioned it :)
06:43 eythian thought as much :)
06:43 jransom I fear he is a little too young and gets distracted too easily
06:44 rangi couple more years
06:44 jransom yup
06:46 jransom ooohh: updated archiects photos of our new library: http://www.tetakere.org.nz/
06:47 magnuse yay
06:47 magnuse that is gonna be awesome
06:48 jransom yes indeed ... i
06:48 eythian > Enjoy a not so serious quiz with four outrageous liars - ... Rosalie Blake ...
06:49 eythian that seems a bit mean :)
06:49 jransom i'm not keen on the Star Trek staff uniform
06:49 jransom oh she lies with the best of them
06:49 eythian Just so long as it doesn't have the star trek lack of toilets
06:49 jransom I went to a trial run on the weekend and was astounded at the lies
06:49 eythian haha
06:49 jransom 4 of them each telling stories
06:50 magnuse is the fundraising on schedule?
06:51 jransom yes - its going well.
06:51 magnuse yay!
06:51 jransom construction is ahead of schedule
06:51 jransom and on budget
06:51 magnuse double yay!
06:52 eythian pfft "on budget", like that ever happens.
06:52 eythian :)
06:52 eythian Maybe you've been listening to Rosalie ;)
06:52 eythian next you'll be saying it's ahead of schedule! :)
06:53 jransom well the builders have been overheard in the local pub saying they are ahead of schedule
06:53 jransom ;0
06:53 jransom ;)
06:53 magnuse hehe
06:53 jransom some good photos here: http://tetakere.blogspot.co.nz/
06:54 jransom the thing is its a contract price so they get paid same amount whether they tae 8 months or 9 months
06:55 magnuse ooh clever
06:58 cait :)
07:02 alex_a hello #koha
07:02 eythian srsly, MARC's publication date is 'yymmdd'? That's pretty terrible.
07:03 cait ?
07:04 eythian > Computer-generated, six-character numeric string that indicates the date the MARC record was created. Recorded in the pattern yymmdd.
07:04 julian_m hello
07:04 Joubu hello
07:04 eythian And then if you set 06 to 't' that means this is the publication date
07:04 eythian you can also set it to 'b' for a BC date.
07:04 eythian These things are orthogonal!
07:05 magnuse did you expect anything better from marc?!? :-)
07:05 magnuse #marcmustdie
07:05 eythian magnus_afk: there's no one in that channel
07:06 cait eythian: breath - in and out
07:06 cait and good morning to biblibre :)
07:07 eythian cait: I have to grump about marc. It's compulsory.
07:08 cait eythian: ok, you can grump about marc
07:11 cait morning paul_p
07:11 paul_p good morning #koha
07:11 asaurat hi !
07:11 paul_p hello cait. Safe travel to come back home ?
07:12 rangi hi biblibre
07:12 cait paul_p: yes, all went well
07:12 jransom Hi Paul
07:12 Amit_Gupta heya ait
07:12 Amit_Gupta heya cait
07:12 mbalmer bonjour
07:12 cait hi Amit_Gupta and bonjour adrien :)
07:12 jransom Paul: we finally drank that gorgeous french wine you brought over for kohacon10
07:12 jransom heya amit
07:12 paul_p jransom did you like it ?
07:12 jransom it was absolutely delicious
07:13 sophie_m hi #koha
07:13 paul_p hi mbalmer & Amit_Gupta
07:13 jransom he nicest red wine i think i have ever tasted
07:13 jransom had to drink it slowly and savout it
07:13 jransom savour
07:15 paul_p i'm happy that you were pleased
07:19 cait paul_p: biblibre must feel empty today?
07:20 * magnus_afk was just thinking the same thing
07:20 paul_p Callender a little bit, yes. We are still reordering everything.
07:20 paul_p and i'm feeling so tired ... I think it must be a kind of "strike-back" (frenchism ?)
07:21 cait paul_p: don't ask me - I am up since 3:30
07:21 cait ... and in a train again
07:22 cait so tired because of that I guess :)
07:22 magnuse 3:30 would explain a bit of tiredness, yes
07:23 cait really early train
07:25 paul_p but today is supposed to be the last day before the feature freeze, so I don't have time to sleep ;-)
07:25 magnuse hehe
07:25 paul_p I think i'll send a mail to koha-devel to give more details about what I won't push and what I could still push
07:25 magnuse no sleep 'til feature freeze!
07:25 magnuse paul_p++
07:25 cait so all new features go in today or not at all?
07:26 eythian paul_p: for 3.6.5?
07:26 reiveune hello
07:26 wahanui bonjour, reiveune
07:26 paul_p eythian nope, for 3.8
07:26 eythian oh right
07:26 eythian duh me
07:28 paul_p cait = nope. feature that are not changing the core of Koha complexity (like circulation) can still make their way. For example, hourly loans would be excluded -but they are in now, so it's OK-
07:28 cait ah
07:28 cait so the hard freeze is the 6th then?
07:28 * eythian goes, and hopes someone signs off on his latest (1 character change) patch :)
07:28 paul_p something like XSLT stylesheet can still be included because the default behaviour won't change, and there's only a tiny side effect risk.
07:29 cait I signed off on dobrica's follow up this morning
07:29 cait it seems to work nicely
07:29 eythian bye all
07:29 cait have a nice evening eythian
07:30 paul_p bye eythian
07:32 jransom hello henri-damien
07:32 cait bonjour :)
07:44 francharb morning #koha
07:44 rangi hi francharb
07:47 jransom heya Francois
08:06 cjh pparently
08:07 cjh ww
08:34 Oak kia ora #koha
08:34 Oak hello cait :)
08:50 slef hi Oak, bye cait
09:11 magnuse Oak
09:24 Oak magnuse
09:24 Oak hello slef
09:24 rangi right time to go home
09:24 * rangi heads out
09:24 magnuse see ya rangi!
09:31 slef @marc 362 a
09:31 huginn slef: Dates of publication and/or sequential designation When both a sequential designation and a chronological designation are given, the chronological one is enclosed in parentheses.
09:31 slef @marc 300 a
09:31 huginn slef: Extent The number of pages, volumes, cassettes, total playing time, etc., of the described item. (Repeatable)
10:33 magnuse who's playing around with github?
10:35 magnuse ooh http://blogs.perl.org/users/claes_jakobsson/2012/03/nordic-perl-workshop-2012---cfp.html
10:35 mtj magnuse: me :)
10:36 magnuse ah cool
10:36 mtj v
10:36 mtj https://github.com/Koha-Community/
10:37 mtj https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/commits/master
10:53 magnuse kia ora nengard!
10:54 mtj kia ora nengard , magnuse
10:54 nengard morning all
11:23 gmcharlt @quote random
11:23 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009)
12:01 druthb o/
12:01 magnuse \o
12:02 druthb :D
12:02 magnuse :-)
12:29 oleonard Hi #koha
12:33 paul_p good morning oleonard ! nothing wrong with your travelling ?
12:33 paul_p (hi nengard too, of course)
12:33 nengard hiya
12:34 oleonard No trouble at all this time paul_p
12:34 oleonard But trouble feeling awake this morning ;)
12:34 oleonard paul_p++ # for a really fantastic week
12:41 magnuse oleonard++ for travelling far and wide for koha
12:43 oleonard No, you should only give me karma for something which is at least a little difficult
12:43 hdl magnuse: were you not in NZ some while ago ? + what is near for you and I may be far for some other folks.
12:44 magnuse :-)
12:44 asaurat oleonard: you survived french cheese with an unprepared stomach
12:45 oleonard Survived? The hardest part was having to stop when I was full
12:45 asaurat hehe, nice :D
12:48 alex_a reiveune doesn't have this problem
12:48 alex_a he never stop
12:48 alex_a :D
12:49 reiveune someone say cheese ?
12:49 alex_a lol
12:49 * druthb fears she wouldn't stop, either. She didn't in India, and gained a couple of pounds on two weeks of Indian food.
12:51 * gmcharlt is suddenly hungry
12:53 * magnuse too
12:56 paul_p we had some cheese for this lunch. And there is still some for tomorrow and probably the day after tomorrow, and maybe the day after the day after tomorrow. (Who said we bought too much ?)
12:57 druthb heh
12:57 * gmcharlt starts investigating the price of shipping cheese
12:57 paul_p the biggest one being "beaufort"
12:57 magnuse it's better to have too much cheese than too little cheese!
12:57 paul_p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_%28cheese%29
12:58 paul_p (the summer one)
13:00 libsysguy no monday is complete without issues after a friday upgrade
13:39 hdl gmcharlt: any idea whether some logistic code are implemented in the sip2 code ?
13:40 Oak what will happen to auto generating barcode format 2012-0001 when books exceed 9999?
13:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7470 follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6490c874bd0bc3e23a558a04d371b634bb51481a> / Bug 7470 follow-up DBRev + removing ` <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=32ac3f673ee1fdb7f558d1c7abb942785a8d3f57> / Bug 7470: Babeltheque integration <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f35a1cce68f055b15afca2ab4006508d863dc08c> / bug 717
13:44 * slef opens his koha mailbox for the first time in four days :(
13:46 gmcharlt hdl: depends -- what do you mean by logistic code?
13:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #680 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #675 3 days 21 hr ago)
13:49 oleonard Attachment 8040 on Bug 5345 is a simple one to sign off on if anyone is able
13:49 huginn 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=8040&action=edit patch, DataTables missing some required images, Bug-5345-FOLLOW-UP-DataTables-in-Koha.patch
13:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , DataTables in Koha
14:02 * Guest7716 waves
14:02 * wizzyrea waves again, properly this time.
14:02 oleonard Hi wizzyrea
14:02 * magnuse waves to the proper wizzyrea
14:03 wizzyrea hey oleonard, glad you made it back safely :)
14:04 * druthb launches herself across the room to tackle-hug wizzyrea.
14:05 * wizzyrea makes noises like "mmrmph mrmph eee!"
14:05 oleonard Long time no see?
14:05 wizzyrea maybe it feels that way :)
14:05 * druthb is getting used to having wizzyrea in her life. A lot.
14:06 * druthb nods n nods.
14:06 hdl gmcharlt: one of the RFID provider is asking us for 'logistic code' support.
14:06 hdl I don't have more information.
14:10 gmcharlt hdl: hmm - is a for a sorter?
14:13 slef where's the improper wizzyrea?
14:13 wizzyrea technically speaking, right here. ;)
14:13 wizzyrea ba dum bum
14:14 hdl gmcharlt: ?
14:16 gmcharlt hdl: I mean an RFID sorting device
14:20 gmcharlt what sort of equipment is the RFID vendor speaking about, specifically?
14:23 slef hdl: I'd ask them which SIP commands and responses they need. OTTOMH I don't remember anything about logistics but I can search if you think it would help.
14:26 lculber Can someone tell me if it is okay to post a job opening on the Koha list? I know it is international, but for once we have an opening and no applicants. It is for Koha cataloging supervisor.
14:27 oleonard I don't see why not
14:27 hdl slef: never mind, will have someone to talk technique with tomorrow.
14:27 * oleonard can't remember if there have been precedents
14:28 gmcharlt oleonard: pretty sure there have been job postings on the mailing list before
14:28 hdl not for library job though :D
14:28 * gmcharlt certainly has no objection
14:28 lculber oleonard and gmcharlt: I couldn't find any precedents and chickened out.
14:29 hdl i don't see any objection either.
14:29 jcamins_away No objections from me. We've seen vendor ads.
14:29 lculber Okay, then. I think I'll go for it. We haven't had any applicants, and it seems worth a try. Thanks everyone. Good day to you all!
14:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7797 - admin/currency.pl needs scoping for plack <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18eb3ea59af4c24f46f504ed7516b485da43ce02> / Bug 7772 - reports/bor_issues_top.pl: we need to exit(0) for plack <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=de8ad03aae72f7079b8418f618707f11bcedeec3> / Bug 7743 followup: fix use of removed formattedwaitingdate param in opac-user.tt <http://
14:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #680: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/680/
14:35 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: tiny follow-up: removing ` that are mysqlism
14:35 jenkins_koha * juan.sieira: Bug 7263 - Determine maximum length of some fields or subfields when cataloguing a biblio or an item.
14:35 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: big 7263 follow-up: DBRev number
14:35 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7780: make silent/verbose flag for translation installing
14:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7263 enhancement, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Determine maximum length of some fields or subfields when cataloguing
14:35 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7178: Acquisition item creation improvement
14:35 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7178 follow-up DBRev number
14:35 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7178 follow-up: typo fix
14:35 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7470: Babeltheque integration
14:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7780 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , fix translator tool verbosity
14:35 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7470 follow-up DBRev + removing `
14:35 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7470 follow-up
14:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Improve order item creation
14:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7470 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Babeltheque improvement and social networks links (like, +1,...)
14:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #681 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #675 3 days 22 hr ago)
14:39 nengard the link to join the mailing list on this page: http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ is not working - is the site down or is the link wrong?
14:42 nengard @wizzyrea ^^
14:42 huginn nengard: I suck
14:42 nengard ??
14:43 wizzyrea wow, 2 secs and I'll check.
14:43 nengard why does huginn suck?
14:43 wizzyrea because you @'d me
14:43 hdl needs more hug perhaps
14:43 wizzyrea and he doesn't know what to do with that.
14:43 wizzyrea the link is right, but the website is gone, apparently
14:44 nengard hmmm
14:44 wizzyrea I'm not sure who the contact is at katipo anymore - I guess rachel
14:44 oleonard Uh, this isn't good: http://lists.katipo.co.nz
14:45 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "just did a fetch on master and now i'm seeing this error - ideas? what do I revert to get in to my staff client?" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/320
14:45 wizzyrea lol oops.
14:45 wizzyrea looks like someone did an apache boo boo
14:45 nengard yikes
14:45 oleonard nengard: there are new dependencies
14:45 nengard oh!
14:46 nengard how do you know that before you install an update? Shouldn't it let you fetch and get to the installer so you can see what dependencies you need?
14:46 gmcharlt flowers FTW!
14:46 oleonard nengard: Bug 7820 lists them
14:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7820 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Missing packages from install_misc/debian.packages
14:46 nengard thanks
14:47 oleonard I'm curious about that too nengard. Is there not a way to prompt the user to install new dependencies?
14:47 wizzyrea well that might be a bit scary from the web interface
14:47 jcamins_away Not if you're using git.
14:47 nengard well the error is way scarier
14:47 nengard :)
14:47 wizzyrea HOWEVER - we should show the "modules" page of about before we do any updates.
14:47 wizzyrea and not go forth if there are any red ones.
14:47 nengard i don't read all commits before fetching - i usually do it after :) cause then I updated the manual
14:48 jcamins_away wizzyrea: that doesn't help if you're using git, though.
14:48 slef clrh: could you put a summary on your wiki edits, please?
14:48 wizzyrea it would help nicole's situation
14:48 oleonard jcamins_away: You're right of course. Us devs can put up with the mystery better
14:48 jcamins_away wizzyrea: except she's using git.
14:48 nengard thanks oleonard i installed those three and it works now :)
14:49 * wizzyrea doesn't follow
14:49 jcamins_away wizzyrea: when someone does a git pull, git downloads the new files.
14:49 jcamins_away Period.
14:49 wizzyrea right - so the web installer should show you what you're missing
14:49 wizzyrea before it does the update
14:49 wizzyrea and breaks your stuff
14:49 oleonard wizzyrea: You mean if there's a db update?
14:49 jcamins_away But this is pre-webinstaller.
14:50 wizzyrea right
14:50 wizzyrea I'm saying we need to intercept missing dependency problems before you see the message
14:50 jcamins_away I think that'd require a pretty major rewrite of Koha.
14:51 wizzyrea why? we have the about -> modules page
14:51 wizzyrea and why can't we have a "dependency update" in addition to "database update"
14:51 jcamins_away Which is inaccessible if you do a git pull without all the dependencies.
14:51 wizzyrea no no, you're thinking of intercepting long long before I am
14:52 wizzyrea i'm thinking do a pull -> there is a dependency update -> interface/web installer tells you that
14:52 wizzyrea you go back, install it, refresh, it lets you on through
14:52 jcamins_away wizzyrea: nengard got that error the moment she tried to cnnect to her system.
14:52 jcamins_away *connect
14:52 nengard after doing the pull
14:52 nengard yes
14:52 wizzyrea right! so we need to intercept it!
14:52 wizzyrea that's my point
14:52 nengard hehe
14:52 wizzyrea here, let me be more plain
14:52 jcamins_away Agreed. It has to be intercepted prior to trying to open any page, though.
14:53 jcamins_away Which means a complete rewrite of Koha to eliminate *all* C4 dependencies.
14:53 wizzyrea "dependencies should be caught like db updates are caught"
14:53 nengard but before them - i think that's what jcamins is saying
14:53 jcamins_away If you update via git, they can't be.
14:53 nengard cause i didn't get to the db update page - i just got an error
14:53 jcamins_away I mean, everyone could install a git hook, which would be a good idea, but I don't think we can force that.
14:53 wizzyrea why can't we do a file like updatedatabase.pl
14:54 wizzyrea meh.
14:54 gmcharlt wizzyrea: because it could lead to chicken-and-egg situations for required modules
14:55 gmcharlt as an alternative, a post-merge Git hook could be set up in one's local Koha repo to do something like run koha_perl_deps.pl -m whenever one pulls
14:56 jcamins_away wizzyrea: we could do that, but that's not an interception-type thing.
14:56 jcamins_away That's the git hook idea that I just proposed. ;)
14:56 jcamins_away The problem is that updatedatabase.pl and its ilk can't be run without their dependencies.
14:56 jcamins_away This might be useful here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3462955/putting-git-hooks-into-repository
14:57 gmcharlt jcamins_away: yeah, sorry, I'll get out of your head now ;)
14:57 wizzyrea ok fine you're all right.
14:59 jcamins_away My git aliases do koha_perl_deps.pl -m, in addition to updatedatabse, etc.
15:00 jcamins_away Just as an aside. Makes git com that much more useful. :)
15:07 wizzyrea i love those aliases.
15:07 wizzyrea they are so great
15:08 slef second question?
15:08 wahanui second question is "What is the exact error message?"
15:08 * chris_n waves to gmcharlt
15:08 slef third question?
15:08 wahanui i think third question is "What version of Koha are you using?"
15:08 chris_n fourth question?
15:08 slef wahanui: forget third question
15:08 wahanui slef: I forgot third question
15:08 * gmcharlt waves back to chris_n r
15:08 slef wahanui: third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/find-version-koha-running/
15:08 wahanui OK, slef.
15:09 jcamins_away I still haven't written one that attaches all relevant patches to the bug report, but one day I'll have that.
15:09 wizzyrea slef++
15:09 wizzyrea hey slef, what's the 4th question ;)
15:09 chris_n wahanui: fourth question is "Are we there yet?"
15:09 wahanui OK, chris_n.
15:10 * chris_n ducks
15:10 * wizzyrea giggles
15:10 gmcharlt almost
15:10 gmcharlt wahanui: fifth question is "Are we there yet?"
15:10 wahanui OK, gmcharlt.
15:11 hdl wizzyrea: answer is 42
15:11 wizzyrea hehe hdl :)
15:11 jcamins_away answer?
15:11 wahanui i think answer is always go back to sleep
15:11 nengard love it
15:11 jcamins_away life, the universe, and everything?
15:12 jcamins_away life, the universe, and everything is 42.
15:12 jcamins_away life, the universe, and everything?
15:12 wahanui life, the universe, and everything is 42.
15:12 sjeffery Is there a release timeline somewhere that shows which version will be released in the future? The release timeline from the site seems to only give past version info?
15:13 chris_n sjeffery: we find we're better at dating past events than future ones... :-)
15:13 chris_n really, though... the release schedule is a new version every six months
15:13 jcamins_away They are on the way!
15:13 wizzyrea but the releases come out every 6 months
15:13 jcamins_away sjeffery: there's one in April, next in October, etc.
15:13 wizzyrea bugfix releases come out every month
15:13 slef wizzyrea: what's maddening?
15:13 slef what's maddening?
15:13 wizzyrea maddening?
15:13 slef nm
15:13 chris_n maddening?
15:14 jcamins_away The crowd?
15:14 chris_n snap
15:14 sjeffery lol Chris, so you are saying that you are the weathermen of the software world?
15:14 chris_n lol
15:14 jcamins_away weather?
15:14 wahanui hmmm... weather is nigh-on perfect here this morning...clear, 65F, supposed to get into the high 80s. Rain possible later in the week.
15:14 jcamins_away weather is also cloudy with a chance of meatballs
15:14 jcamins_away weather ?
15:14 sjeffery ok, and when do major enhancements get closed out for the 6 month patches
15:14 jcamins_away weather?
15:14 wahanui weather is, like, nigh-on perfect here this morning...clear, 65F, supposed to get into the high 80s. Rain possible later in the week
15:14 * wizzyrea supposes we should codify that 6 months/ bugfix release thing
15:14 wizzyrea today, for version 3.8
15:14 jcamins_away Hey, did you know that wahanui does weather?
15:15 chris_n sjeffery: usually, sometimes about 4 weeks prior to release
15:15 wizzyrea sjeffery: usually 4-5 weeks before release
15:15 wizzyrea jinx
15:15 slef really most every question?
15:15 wahanui really most every question is answered there
15:15 oleonard wahanui can predict the weather better than some forecasters
15:15 wahanui oleonard: what?
15:15 sjeffery ok, so say 9/1 for the octover release?
15:15 wizzyrea no, it will be october
15:15 sjeffery And yeah, documenting that info on the timeline would be helpful:)
15:15 wizzyrea oh, you mean feature freeze
15:16 chris_n yes
15:16 wizzyrea which site are you looking at
15:16 wizzyrea and what page
15:16 wahanui i think page is too big?
15:16 wizzyrea so I know which one to update
15:16 sjeffery https://launchpad.net/koha/+series
15:16 wizzyrea wrong.
15:16 chris_n sjeffery: that's a good estimate
15:16 wizzyrea sorry, all of our information is at www.koha-communtiy.org
15:16 wizzyrea with community spelled correctly
15:16 chris_n subject to change based on the RM's decision as the day approaches
15:16 wizzyrea of course
15:17 sjeffery wizzy, this is linked to off http://koha-community.org/
15:17 wizzyrea from which page
15:17 chris_n but you're probably safe if its submitted 4 weeks prior
15:17 sjeffery Wizzy, look at the links on the right side of the main page
15:17 jcamins_away chris_n: I'd probably say 6 weeks.
15:17 chris_n I should add submitted, tested, signed off, QA'd, etc
15:17 sjeffery "Koha Release Timeline"
15:17 wizzyrea yes I see it
15:17 jcamins_away Or I'd add that proviso. ;)
15:18 * chris_n thinks the launchpad page is generated off of the repo
15:18 wizzyrea yea it has to be at least up to "passed QS"
15:18 wizzyrea QA*
15:18 wizzyrea to be considered for inclusion
15:18 jcamins_away And two weeks is not guaranteed to be enough time for testing, sign off, QA, etc.
15:18 * chris_n hands jcamins_away a cup of iced coffee
15:18 jcamins_away But you should definitely leave at least 2 weeks. :)
15:18 jcamins_away Thanks!
15:19 sjeffery Now stop acting like I am crazy for posting an off-domain link!
15:19 chris_n :-)
15:19 jcamins_away chris_n: uh-oh... was that caffeinated?
15:19 chris_n jcamins_away: as you like it
15:19 jcamins_away chris_n: even decaf, I appear to be bouncing off the walls.
15:21 reiveune bye
15:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #681: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/681/
15:21 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7702: [SIGNED-OFF] MARC21 heading tests should not run under UNIMARC
15:21 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7783: Show private shelves in opac when deleting non-empty private list from shelf view
15:21 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7451 - PrepareItemrecordDisplay missing $subfield_data{id} which breaks AJAX value_builders
15:21 jenkins_koha * gaetan.boisson: Bug 7761 - cleaning up empty declarations from staff-global.css
15:21 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: More ids and classes for the staff interface
15:21 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-account.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin
15:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7702 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Test for C4::Heading::MARC21 should only run under MARC21
15:21 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-tags.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin
15:21 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-user.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin
15:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7783 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Show private shelves in opac when deleting non-empty private list from shelf view
15:21 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-detail.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin
15:21 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update sco/sco-main.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin
15:22 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-userupdate.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin
15:22 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-showreviews.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin
15:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7451 critical, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , PrepareItemrecordDisplay missing $subfield_data{id} which breaks AJAX value_builders
15:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gaetan.boisson, Pushed to Master , cleaning up empty declarations from staff-global.css
15:22 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-readingrecord.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin
15:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton
15:22 jenkins_koha * koha.sekjal: Bug 7743 followup: fix use of removed formattedwaitingdate param in opac-user.tt
15:22 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7772 - reports/bor_issues_top.pl: we need to exit(0) for plack
15:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7743 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Use KohaDates TT plugin in OPAC
15:22 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7797 - admin/currency.pl needs scoping for plack
15:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7772 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , reports/bor_issues_top.pl: we need to exit(0) for plack
15:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7797 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/currency.pl needs scoping for plack
15:22 wizzyrea wow julian, good work :)
15:22 jcamins_away Wow.
15:25 slef launchpad should go die. I never asked to be on it and the details it has for me are incorrect, split, wrong.
15:26 wizzyrea we also have a lovely github repo now, that does a lot of the same things.
15:26 jcamins_away Yeah, I saw that.
15:26 * wizzyrea ponders making the link to it go away
15:26 wizzyrea in favor of ... I don't know what but not that.
15:27 sjeffery I assumed that when clicking that link it would take me to a general page with the overall release timeline and cutoff dates...but that is just me
15:28 sjeffery Maybe with info similar to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_release_history
15:28 jcamins_away https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/network ?
15:29 wizzyrea mmm no
15:29 jcamins_away Hm, no, that's something different.
15:29 jcamins_away history.txt?
15:30 jcamins_away Where are the movers?
15:30 jcamins_away (on their way, I know)
15:31 wizzyrea however this is pretty
15:31 wizzyrea https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/graphs/impact
15:31 wizzyrea it starts getting really interesting in 2007 ;)
15:31 slef github should also go die, non-FOSS invader of FOSS projects
15:32 slef it's not been a banner day, can you tell? ;-)
15:32 * wizzyrea can
15:32 wizzyrea it must be intercontinental bad day.
15:32 wizzyrea an* intercontinental
15:33 slef incontinental?
15:33 wizzyrea lol, no. Unless there's something you're not telling us >.>
15:33 slef not here
15:34 jcamins_away On the subject of "Intercontinental," did you know that the Hotel Intercontinental in Kabul was infringing on the Hotel Intercontinental chain's trademark?
15:36 sjeffery That is the most ridiculously random....
15:36 jcamins_away sjeffery: they were sued while I was over there, I think.
15:36 jcamins_away And bombed shortly after I left.
15:37 jcamins_away Anyhoo.
15:40 slef trademarks are good, aren't they?
15:41 jcamins_away Movers are here! :)
15:42 slef Are patents, trademarks and copyrights the last divine rights of kings that the USA will defend?
15:45 paul_p wizzyrea for me https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/graphs/impact is an empty page (on FF 11.0 shipped with ubuntu)
15:45 wizzyrea :( that's stinky
15:45 wizzyrea won't use that one then.
15:45 wizzyrea shame, because you're featured heavily on it
15:45 wizzyrea :)
15:45 paul_p just get a king of cat with a progress roung
15:45 wizzyrea it takes a bit to load
15:46 paul_p s/roung/round/
15:46 wizzyrea i mean, longer than you might expect
15:46 paul_p seems to slow my laptop indeed ;-)
15:46 * wizzyrea actually went to a different tab and came back like, 10 minutes later
15:46 wizzyrea no idea how long it actually took
15:46 wizzyrea but it is *interesting*
15:46 wizzyrea we have a long, and storied history. :)
15:46 * paul_p head to http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/lastUnstableBuild/#showFailuresLink to fix the 4 problems -that are in fact only 2-
16:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #682 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #675 3 days 23 hr ago)
16:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7470 follow-up, fix POD doc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8271673722129c903b45d225be1816ff8c21462a>
16:09 wizzyrea interesting - you can't set a messaging default of "digest" without setting the corresponding notice as default.
16:09 wizzyrea intentional or a bug?
16:10 wizzyrea so what if you want to make sure that people pick "digest" for say, item due, but you don't want to require them to get the notice?
16:33 paul_p time to leave for me now.
16:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7775 - tools/upload-file.pl: scoping for plack <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=db312526b2be2dbc4fce365eab65bc7809c3e910> / Bug 7799 - admin/marctagstructure.pl plack scoping <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4233cf1dd1bd7353f38fbd1d79de79c47296486> / Bug 7773 - serials/subscription-add.pl scope for plack <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=
16:34 paul_p gmcharlt: will answer on koha-devel tomorrow, but I missed that the DOM would be an ADDITION, not a REPLACEMENT, so it's OK to push it if it passes QA in the next 2 weeks
16:35 paul_p bye all, see you (my) tomorrow
16:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #682: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/682/
16:49 jenkins_koha paul.poulain: bug 7470 follow-up, fix POD doc
16:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7470 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Babeltheque improvement and social networks links (like, +1,...)
16:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #683 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #675 4 days 0 hr ago)
16:58 francharb 0
16:58 francharb 0/
16:58 francharb see ya
17:01 Oak kia ora #koha
17:21 Oak night.
17:28 wizzyrea interesting. Amazon related things started kind of working again.
17:28 wizzyrea was there a patch for that?
17:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #683: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/683/
17:36 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7795 - admin/authorised_values.pl breaks with plack
17:36 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7798 - admin/item_circulation_alerts.pl plack scoping
17:36 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7790 - tools/manage-marc-import.pl breaks with plack
17:36 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7800 - admin/matching-rules.pl plack scoping
17:36 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7801 - admin/patron-attr-types.pl plack scoping
17:36 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7773 - serials/subscription-add.pl scope for plack
17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7795 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/authorised_values.pl: breaks with plack
17:36 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7799 - admin/marctagstructure.pl plack scoping
17:36 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7775 - tools/upload-file.pl: scoping for plack
17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/item_circulation_alerts.pl plack scoping
17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7790 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , tools/manage-marc-import.pl breaks with plack
17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7800 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/matching-rules.pl plack scoping
17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7801 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/patron-attr-types.pl plack scoping
17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , serials/subscription-add.pl needs to scope $query for plack
17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7799 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/marctagstructure.pl needs $dbh plack scoping
17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7775 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , tools/upload-file.pl: scope $uploaded_file for plack
18:36 rangi Morning
18:40 bag morning rangi
18:43 rangi Hey bag
19:02 libsysguy opinions https://catalog.uttyler.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=lasers
19:07 * magnus_afk waves
19:15 mbalmer ola alo
19:16 mbalmer strange comment on 7365. need to reply tomorrow.
19:37 wizzyrea lol, lasers is your default search?
19:37 wizzyrea libsysguy: it's purty.
19:41 wizzyrea have we codified the release schedule anywhere?
19:41 wizzyrea if it's on the wiki i'm failing at finding it
19:41 wizzyrea on the list maybe?
19:42 rangi on the list
19:42 rangi and i did a blog post
19:42 wizzyrea oo yes, now I remember
19:43 chris_n heya rangi && wizzyrea
19:43 chris_n hmm...
19:44 chris_n does using && there mean that if rangi is not here wizzyrea does not receive the greeting?
19:44 rangi heh
19:44 * wizzyrea giggles
19:45 gmcharlt hi chris_n || rangi || wizzyrea
19:45 chris_n lol
19:45 rangi libsysguy: you around?
19:45 * wizzyrea waves at gmcharlt
19:46 chris_n hi jransom
19:54 chris_n by jwagner
20:14 wizzyrea @later tell sjeffery http://koha-community.org/about/release-schedule/
20:14 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
21:35 rangi is there a way to stop koha popping a print dialogue when you enter a blank barcode when circulating?
21:37 cait I think yes
21:37 cait trying to find it for you give me a sec
21:38 cait rangi: CircAutoPrintQuickSlip
21:38 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=bc92dda8c4351612e57b3eef86256f15581698be
21:38 rangi thanks
21:38 rangi its pissing me off
21:38 cait hate to say it... but you signed off on it
21:39 rangi yep it works as advertised
21:39 rangi i just dont want it to
21:41 bag HA
21:41 rangi ah thats not in 3.6.4
21:41 rangi darn
21:41 cait but should it be popping up then?
21:41 rangi dunno but it is
21:41 rangi and thats the annoying bit
21:42 eythian It seems reasonable that it would pop up then, so they can print their slips easily.
21:42 rangi if they used the browser to print, not the server yes
21:42 eythian Oh, I see
21:42 rangi at the moment its just a pain, and no way to switch it off
22:44 Judit morning