Time Nick Message 23:46 sekjal cheers, #koha 23:46 sekjal k, gotta go get dinner ready 23:05 libsysguy I was jw, i saw earlier where there was a lot in the QAQ 23:05 sekjal which are easy to test 23:05 sekjal lots of template change and place modifications 23:04 sekjal not much 23:04 libsysguy stuff failing? 23:04 sekjal libsysguy: going okay 23:04 libsysguy sekjal how goes the QA-ing 23:03 wahanui marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html 23:03 slef marc21? 23:03 slef bah 23:03 huginn slef: Copy number A copy number or a range of numbers for copies that have the same location and call number when the holdings information does not contain an 863-865 Enumeration and Chronology field that contains subfield $t (Copy number). 23:03 slef @marc 852 t 23:03 huginn slef: Public note (Repeatable) 23:03 slef @marc 852 z 23:02 huginn slef: Location The institution or person holding the item or from which access is given. Contains a MARC code for the organization or the name of the institution or person holding the item.See Organization Code Sources for a listing of sources used in MARC 21 records. 23:02 slef @marc 852 a 23:02 huginn slef: Identifies the organization holding the item or from which it is available. May also contain detailed information about how to locate the item in a collection. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,p,q,s,t,u,x,z,2,3,6,8] 23:02 slef @marc 852 22:45 Space_Librarian hey sekjal 22:45 sekjal hi, Space_Librarian 22:43 Space_Librarian o/ 22:40 rangi yeah 22:36 sekjal I don't think that's right 22:36 sekjal huh. we have a LOT of exit(1); lines in reports/*.pl 22:19 eythian slef: yeah, that's what I'm probably going to do. 22:16 wahanui i guess xslt is a maze of twisty turny passages, all alike. 22:16 slef eythian: xslt? 22:14 eythian anyone know anything about displaying abstract or notes on the search results screen? Apparently part way through a migration I had it doing that by accident and after cleaning things up, it stopped happening and they want it back. 22:09 cait night all :) 21:59 jcamins_away Indeed. 21:58 cait heh 21:58 cait all will be nice once we have dom indexing :) 21:58 jcamins_away I have a bug bit no funding yet. 21:58 * cait can't wait to see tha tworking too 21:57 cait :) 21:57 cait the question was about searching the see also forms 21:57 jcamins_away I an here a minute. 21:50 cait what is your question irma? 21:50 Irma will it be possible? 21:49 Irma in which version is it possible? 21:49 Irma I C 21:49 cait oh, jared might be the better one to answer that 21:49 cait it's getting a bit late 21:49 Irma about "see also" 21:49 cait a quick one :) 21:48 Irma cait OK for a quick question? 21:47 cait hi Irma :) 21:47 Irma hi sekjal, cait ... 21:47 cait to make sure if it does or not 21:47 cait you can run the test 21:47 sekjal hi, Irma! 21:47 cait I think exactly this case would not break translation, but it would make the tests complain for sure 21:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Signed Off , Edit basket vendor after it has been created 21:47 sekjal k, thank you, will note that on bug 7757 21:47 cait yes 21:46 sekjal cait: do you recall why? does it break translations? 21:46 Irma congratulations for last week's work! 21:46 cait hi irma :) 21:46 Irma g'day #koha 21:46 cait [if sth]checked=checked[end] is not good 21:45 cait something like 21:45 cait yes 21:45 sekjal is there an issue with putting an [% IF %] inside an HTML tag? I thought I remembered that... 21:41 cait :) 21:41 cait hi mr robin 21:41 eythian hi 21:40 cait I will do that 21:40 cait yeah, we should have obsoleted the patches 21:40 cait oh 21:40 sekjal oh well, on to the next thing 21:40 sekjal it's all good, cait. I wish the bug status had been updated… would have saved me some time 21:38 cait about, main page and login 21:38 cait I forgot the pages that were not in directories 21:38 cait is missing 21:38 wahanui rumour has it the last one is the first one if you look backwards 21:38 cait sekjal: the last one 21:38 sekjal anyway, it's passed QA 21:38 sekjal paperwork snafu 21:38 cait which bug? 21:37 rangi i think that bug has the wrong status 21:37 sekjal hmmm 21:37 rangi or at least a lot have 21:37 rangi sekjal: theyve all been pushed i think http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=summary 21:34 bag I haven't - but hopefully tomorrow I will be able to pull it and test :D 21:34 bag has anybody tried the wip/koha-equinox branch for DOM yet? 21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton 21:32 sekjal lot of patches to read for bug 7760 21:31 bag :P 21:29 cait-m Hm not exactly 21:28 bag voldemort? 21:27 cait yeah, you know who is awesome 21:17 magnus_afk yeah, gonna be hard to beat you know who :-) 21:17 rangi well it will no suprise who has the most sign offs 21:16 magnus_afk yeah! :-) 21:16 cait :) 21:15 sekjal rangi: very much looking forward to seeing the stats come months end 21:13 magnus_afk kia ora rangi 21:12 rangi hey magnus_afk :) 21:11 magnus_afk yay! 21:11 rangi not bad at all :) and still 6 days to go 21:11 rangi 137 passed qa 21:11 rangi 185 bugs marked signed off in march 21:06 bag on currently 21:06 bag yeah same here - off and on 20:59 sekjal grey here, raining off and on… 'off' at the moment 20:59 bag rainy here 20:59 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 12.4°C (1:58 PM PDT on March 25, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). 20:59 bag @wunder 93109 20:58 huginn sekjal: The current temperature in Plain Road East, South Deerfield, Massachusetts is 10.4°C (4:34 PM EDT on March 25, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa (Falling). 20:58 sekjal @wunder 01373 20:39 huginn cait: The current temperature in Steinbach, Germany is 9.7°C (10:00 PM CEST on March 25, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady). 20:39 cait @wunder göttingen 20:38 huginn libsysguy: The current temperature in Lake Tyler (D3895), Tyler, Texas is 26.9°C (3:37 PM CDT on March 25, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). 20:38 libsysguy @wunder 75707 20:38 libsysguy ohh 20:37 cait in moredetail 20:37 cait but I think at the moment it conflicts because of a new feature I added 20:37 libsysguy but that is always in conflict :p 20:37 cait if the conflict is easy to resolve I would do it I think 20:37 libsysguy well it conflicts on that as well 20:37 cait not for updatedatabase 20:37 cait hm 20:36 libsysguy is it just an automatic fail if there is a conflict? 20:36 libsysguy I think it has been rebased like 4-5 times 20:36 libsysguy what is the rule for that, basically everytime parcel.pl or .tt gets changed this thing gets a conflict 20:35 libsysguy_run I think i can sign off on this one unless its out of date again 20:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq 20:35 sekjal :) 20:35 wahanui bug 5339 is looking for a second sign off :) 20:35 libsysguy_run bug 5339 20:35 cait good you remind me :) 20:35 cait sekjal: oh, I have a patch to send 20:34 cait at leas tnow oyu won't have to move it 20:34 jcamins_away At least I didn't do that with the cartridge replacement. :) 20:33 jcamins_away Paper feed broke into many little pieces. 20:33 sekjal jcamins_away: boooo 20:33 jcamins_away Right after replacing a cartridge, too. 20:33 jcamins_away Printer's dead. 20:32 rangi doesnt take long eh 20:32 sekjal mostly Plack stuff, though 20:32 sekjal the queue is back up near 30 20:32 sekjal I'm settled back home from the conference in DC, and figured I'd throw some time at QA 20:30 sekjal cool 20:30 cait s/ah/a 20:30 cait ah workshop in göttingen 20:30 cait ah 20:29 sekjal cait: where to? 20:28 rangi and im reading emails and figuring out what to tackle first today 20:28 cait :) 20:28 cait getting ready for more travelling 20:28 sekjal (sometimes verbs are important) 20:28 sekjal s/how/how are/ 20:28 sekjal how you both today? 20:28 sekjal hi, cait 20:27 cait hi sekjal 20:25 sekjal hey, rangi 20:25 rangi hey sekjal 20:09 * libsysguy darts off for a run bbl 20:08 wahanui rumour has it libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck 20:08 libsysguy libsysguy 20:01 cait yes? 20:00 wahanui That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) 20:00 mbalmer cait ?? 19:52 cait you know, you could have tried... I don't like it so much, because... 19:50 mbalmer ikiwiki isn't cool 19:48 rangi there's nothing that joeyh wrote that isn't cool 19:33 liw :) 19:32 jcamins_away Well, you just got credit anyway. :) 19:32 liw I didn't write it, Joey Hess (joeyh) did that; I just help him run branchable.com 19:32 jcamins_away Thanks. 19:31 jcamins_away ikiwiki. 19:31 jcamins_away What's the wiki that liw wrote? 19:15 cait yay :) 19:12 slef :) no errors now :) 19:04 slef allow_loose_quotes I think 19:04 slef I think I've sorted the encodings now. The remaining problems look like unescaped quotes. Now reading Text::CSV_XS's options to see what might help. 19:03 rangi Grant from work has a module on cpan Fixlatin that does a good job of cleaning stuff like that 19:02 * cait sends cookies 19:02 cait eeew 19:02 slef that is mislabelled as utf8 19:02 mtj http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=import/csv/csvtomarc.pl;h=2a1fbcda7e546f64d607c95cbbd12dce14ddbe7e;hb=216661c3ea03f737902a84e7b0b9b7f0d79e4867 19:02 slef it's some child of latin-15 and Windows 19:01 rangi Fixlatin 19:01 rangi Hmm autocorrect 19:01 rangi Slef: using fixation? 19:01 slef mtj: this CSV has lots of encoding problems. 19:00 cait eythian++ rangi++ mtj++ :) 19:00 mtj it went very very smoothly 19:00 mtj ive just done my 1st bib import using rangi and eythian's csvtomarc.pl script 19:00 cait slef: I will be around too - arrive shortly before rangi and robin 18:59 rangi Good luck 18:59 * slef returns to fighting with Text::CSV::Encoded 18:57 rangi Will do 18:56 gmcharlt mtj: yep, there's a redirect in place now 18:56 slef rangi: cool. We'll be in touch. An email to kohacon12 or ideally kohacon12volunteers would help me remember 18:55 rangi Slef: I get into Scotland 8pm night before conf so won't be much help setting up but happy to do anything else to help 18:49 rangi The good about ptfs registering koha domains is we now have policy do ppl should know not to do it again 18:48 gmcharlt I've also updated the copyright footer on downloads.k-c.org 18:48 cait morning rangi :) 18:47 cait gmcharlt++ was looking at the new website - nice 18:47 * rangi reads back 18:46 rangi Gmcharlt++ 18:38 mtj and a little mod_rewrite tweak too, even? :) 18:37 mtj gmcharlt: looks promising :) 18:37 huginn slef: unknown tag 952 18:37 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29 18:37 slef @marc 952 18:37 slef cake! 18:17 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-03-25-18.15.log.html 18:17 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-03-25-18.15.txt 18:17 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-03-25-18.15.html 18:17 huginn Meeting ended Sun Mar 25 18:16:46 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 18:17 gmcharlt #endmeeting 18:17 gmcharlt #action no decision on cake vs. pie ... 18:16 gmcharlt #info test of logging change 18:16 gmcharlt #topic cake, or pie? 18:16 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:16 huginn Meeting started Sun Mar 25 18:15:41 2012 UTC. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:16 gmcharlt #startmeeting 17:20 cait booked mine the week before marseille 17:17 mbalmer booked my flights today. 17:15 cait but pretty good representation already :) 17:15 cait not sure about others 17:15 mtj oh yeah, dianna from opus-nz 17:15 cait but saying that flights were booked 17:14 cait I don't rmemeber the name 17:14 cait there was someone on the mailing list 17:14 mtj (but you knew that :) ) 17:14 mtj hmm - chris and robin are coming, from catalyst... i'm not sure about other nz-ers? 17:13 cait ok, deal ;) 17:12 mtj no nooo... lets *share* the chocolate bar :) 17:11 cait perhaps rangi would volunteer for the whisky 17:11 cait I take the chocolate bars away from you 17:10 cait hehe 17:09 mtj a traditional scottish diet of deep-fried chocolate-bars and whiskey :) 17:07 cait hi slef :) 17:07 cait mtj: we would all help you with your diet if you decide to come :) 17:07 cait mtj: ooh :( 17:01 slef hi all 16:59 mtj specifically around my tummy area :p 16:59 mtj i still feel like i've just got back from india! 16:58 mtj and no for scotland - i was planning on coming... but have recently decided not too :/ 16:57 mtj yeah, i agree 16:55 cait I mean publicationyear would make more sense 16:53 cait mtj: will you be in edinburgh? :) 16:51 cait only complicated to clean up 16:51 cait I still think you are right.... having the same mapping for unimarc and marc21 would be nice :( 16:50 mtj cait: oops, you are right - yeah, i might have accidentally unmapped it :) 16:47 jcamins Ooh, "book" is trademarked by Facebook! 16:44 cait perhaps you unmapped it by accident? 16:44 cait I checked - it is 16:44 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/mandatory/marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql;h=62c64ad5eafc8223eab83b73939188831c256bc9;hb=88efb109e58d9c47b73b59a64cf8fe1b469d1bc5#l1036 16:43 mtj no probs... i'll look later too :) 16:43 cait so thought to share what I found :) 16:43 cait I had problems with that before 16:42 mtj i havent looked properly, it was just a quick-bug - so i did not forget.. :) 16:42 cait weird, let me check 16:42 cait hmm 16:42 mtj cait: hmm, i dont think so? 260$c is not mapped to anything, on my fresh 3.6.4 koha 16:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7822 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , bibitems.publicationyear is not mapped to 260$c for MARC21 frameworks 16:40 cait bug 7822 16:39 cait but it is a bit of a mess... and if we want to change it, we have to take care of existing installations 16:39 cait in most places Koha accounts for that 16:39 cait and unimarc maps to publicationyear 16:39 cait mtj: for your bug - it's mapped to copyrightyear 16:37 mtj ah, bummer :/ it sure looks like a snazzy little machine :) 16:36 mbalmer yeah ;) 16:36 jcamins mbalmer: soldering iron? 16:35 mbalmer I have the manuals, but there is no info on it. 16:34 mtj http://www.intermec.com/products/prtrpf4i/manuals.aspx 16:33 mbalmer and I'd like to know how to turn of the blue LED on the front panel of an Intermec EasyCoder PF4i printer... 16:32 mtj ... sexy angels investing in improving my potential longevity 16:31 mtj all this talk of sexy human potential is distracting me terribly 16:30 mtj woo, i'm actually sposed to be doing some work now-ish... :/ i'm gonna switch back 16:28 mtj hey, apple hired that pepsi guy, why not the other way round?! 16:28 mbalmer "Angel Investor, Entrepreneur, Bio-hacker" 16:27 mbalmer or just a plain moron? 16:27 mtj ... or a coca-cola(tm) sales-person ? 16:26 chris_n sounds sort of like a profession bum 16:25 chris_n quote: "Traveling the world in search of sexy biotechnology projects with potential to improve human healthspan (healthy longevity)" 16:25 mtj chris_n: my guess is not working in the open-source or ILS market ? :) 16:25 mbalmer somehow koha is a bad name, it's some work in kosovo: http://www.koha.net/ 16:24 mbalmer … or goes to koha.com and starts playing hockey... 16:23 mtj but... anyone that is slightly serious about Koha, usually finds the mailing-lists... then *reads* the mailing lists, and then works it out :) 16:23 chris_n interesting to see what josh has ended up doing: http://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuaferraro 16:23 mbalmer but still. 16:22 mbalmer mtj, if you know open source, you soon realize that koha.org can't be it. 16:22 mtj ... its just a way for me not to get too upset about people probably seeing lib-stupid's site first , and thinking 'this is just a pretend open-source project run by a single company' bye bye... 16:21 mbalmer that asshole want's EUR 1500 for koha.ch 16:21 mbalmer by a domain grabber 16:20 mbalmer wow, even koha.ch is registered. 16:20 jcamins k-c.net too, I think. 16:20 jcamins Yup. The same company bought up ll the addresses like that. 16:20 mbalmer koha.com, too 16:19 mbalmer koha.net is takes as well. 16:19 mtj yeah, perhaps you are right ! 16:18 mbalmer exactly. 16:18 cait mtj: I think researching is perhaps not the problem - but people don't expect it to be 2 different things 16:18 jcamins mtj: but why would anyone look the difference up in the first place? 16:18 mbalmer when I started with Koha, I though koha.org was it, until I was pointed to kc.org. It is stupid they use koha.org, I think even for their customers. 16:16 mtj anyone that cant research the difference between K0HA.org and kc.org... is probably not gonna do very well using Koha anyway :p 16:09 mbalmer koha.org is not beautiful. imo it hurts the eye 16:06 cait mtj: but hopefully we have learned from it: http://koha-community.org/koha-trade-mark-usage-policy/ 16:04 mtj and, oh - the 'general' koha mailing-list is missing from orange-archive -> http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/project/lists.koha-community.org/ 16:04 mbalmer (quoted from above) 16:04 mbalmer … we've given everything we have to this community 16:02 mtj ... and got side-tracked by that fascinating trip down memory-lane ;) 16:01 cait we have been busy 16:01 cait ohwow 16:01 cait ah 16:01 mtj i was looking at the increase of bug traffic on kc.org -> http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/listinfo/2BelB 16:00 cait mtj: are you looking for something? or why searching history? :) 15:58 mtj KOHA (tm) and (c) 15:57 mtj its pretty much the first hint of joshua's greedy plans to OWN KOHA! 15:51 chris_n it screams in hindsight 15:51 chris_n interesting thread mtj 15:49 cait yeah 15:47 chris_n emphasis on the word "history" 15:47 jcamins Hehe. 15:47 chris_n interesting bit of history 15:47 chris_n set an example for other support organizations." 15:47 chris_n we've created because we believe in the community process and we strive to 15:47 chris_n "LibLime has, from our inception in 2005, contributed back 100% of the code 15:42 chris_n a tornado took out the last one 15:42 mbalmer jcamins, oh, one more ;) 15:42 mbalmer chris_n, sounds really nice. 15:41 chris_n jcamins: cool 15:41 jcamins KC2PZA. Never actually used a radio. 15:41 chris_n mbalmer: our campus club is in the process of putting up a ~30m of Rohn 55g with a very nice array of HF antennas at the top 15:40 mtj it sure is interesting to read the old mailing-lists archives with 20/20 hindsight 15:40 mbalmer heh, cool to know there are other hams ;) mostly QRP 15:40 chris_n do much HF work? 15:39 chris_n SSB... nice 15:39 mtj ha, one from the vaults... -> http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/ibMLh4HK5JtYxUymNwho 15:39 chris_n KU4DD here 15:39 mbalmer HB9SSB 15:39 chris_n mbalmer: what's your callsign? 15:27 mbalmer and leaving monday 11. 15:27 mbalmer as for KohaCon, I will arrive wednesday evening (one day of conference should be enough for a non librarian) and then stay for the hackfest. 15:23 cait *sigh* 15:23 cait I killed the irc app on my phone 15:23 cait I guess that's good? 15:06 jcamins_away I successfully closed the cable up, *without* needing to replace the connector. 14:47 cait hope you are careful, we need our fudgemaker :) 14:47 cait glad you did 14:46 jcamins_away mbalmer: don't worry, I found someone on another channel who did. 14:45 * mbalmer doesn't even know what an F connector is, despite being a licensed radio amateur... 14:42 jcamins_away Anyone here who has installed an F connector on coax recently? 14:38 * jcamins_away decides to put a label "Jack not live/reterminate in lr" on the CATV jack in the bedroom. 13:34 cait hi mbalmer 13:34 mbalmer hi cait 13:34 * cait waves 09:57 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.9°C (11:54 AM CEST on March 25, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). 09:57 Oak @wunder konstanz 07:15 wahanui coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines 07:15 rangi coding guidelines 07:02 Oak yes 07:02 cait only a little hard to answer while at the hackfest 07:01 cait Oak, asking questions is ok :) 06:59 Oak sorry for annoying you that day... asking too many questions. 06:58 Oak yes! 06:57 cait so test rn tomorrow? 06:54 Oak back 06:24 Oak be back in 15 06:24 cait hm 06:24 Oak there was book with same title same edition on Internet - Amazon, LOC, but it had different no. of pages etc 06:23 Oak I mean it *had* an ISBN on back, but on Internet there was no detail related to that ISBN 06:23 Oak but I did one book that night and it took me about 20 minutes. it was a Low Price Edition (Indian) and I could not find it's ISBN anywhere... on LOC, or Amazon etc. 06:22 cait ah 06:22 Oak there was a holiday on Friday, and on Saturday the university is closed, so... 06:21 cait how did you test run go? 06:21 Oak :) 06:21 cait hello Oak :) 06:21 Oak hello cait 06:13 cait hi #koha 05:54 Oak kia ora #koha