Time Nick Message
23:14 * gmcharlt relocates home
23:07 gmcharlt I'll try to avoid rebasing in that branch; will push a clean branch when it is ready to submit
23:07 gmcharlt WIP branch is dom-biblio in the wip/koha-equinox repo on git.k-c.org
22:41 melia yay!
22:40 bag sweet!
22:40 gmcharlt first search and retrieval of a bib indexed using the DOM filter ... success!
22:33 cait night :)
22:33 jcamins Good night, #koha.
22:33 jcamins Dinner time.
22:31 * cait is happier with this meaning of 'falls out'
22:30 cait like not in the specification :)
22:30 cait wondered if it meant it was too much work for now
22:29 cait nice!
22:29 cait ooh
22:28 jcamins cait: it's that easy. :)
22:27 cait ?
22:20 gmcharlt yes - it almost falls out of the implementation
22:20 jcamins $6.
22:20 cait I always forget the subfields
22:19 cait like... 880 ... 245 going into title index?
22:19 * gmcharlt whispers back the default XSLT can include automatically inclusion of 880s
22:17 jcamins Yeah, but there are two parts to your indexing solution. The second part, including see-alsos, requires additional work.
22:17 * cait whispers 880
22:17 cait I think by mentioning his name you already got gmcharlt's attention
22:16 cait our evil indexing soluton is something of the last things we don't have in mater... because it's too ugly to go ther
22:16 jcamins cait: you have to do it because I'm too much of a pest. ;)
22:16 * cait is now too excited to sleep
22:16 jcamins :)
22:16 jcamins cait: tell gmcharlt to add that to his translation script.
22:16 cait it will be so nice
22:15 cait oooh
22:15 jcamins cait: yeah, very easy.
22:15 cait jcamins: indexing of880 fields in the matching indexes?
22:11 jcamins Actually, maybe we just need four... one for Shari, three for me.
22:10 * jcamins fills out five change of address forms for two people.
22:10 cjh although I enjoy my work, so it makes up for it :)
22:09 cait I have heard rumours ;)
22:09 cait hmm
22:08 * jcamins doesn't know exactly what a weekend is, but he's been told it isn't supposed to involve work.
22:08 jcamins Ah.
22:08 cjh jcamins: im a student most of the time during the week, so weekends often involve work
22:07 jcamins cjh: on a weekend?!?
22:07 cjh and now that I have access to my server back, time to get some actual work done :)
22:05 cait but lots of fun things and bugfixes :)
22:05 cait 3.8 will be amazing... but well ... koha is
22:05 cjh heh very true :)
22:04 jcamins cjh: at least it's the weekend, right?
22:04 cjh stressful, a morning of silly mistakes >.>
22:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , More options for AdvancedSearchTypes
22:04 bag bug 7031
22:03 cait how is things? :)
22:01 cjh hey cait :)
22:01 cait later wizzyrea
22:01 cait hi cjh :)
22:00 bag later wizzyrea
22:00 bag night night cait
22:00 wizzyrea later peeps, weekend here!
21:59 gmcharlt :)
21:58 cait I only said I hsould... don't take me that literally!
21:58 wizzyrea good night cait
21:58 jcamins Good night.
21:58 jcamins Good idea.
21:58 cait perhaps I should go to bed too :)
21:58 jcamins cait: wizzyrea saying "lucky you."
21:58 cait ok
21:58 cait ooh
21:57 cait huh?
21:56 jcamins I thought that was an ironic comment on the 5 figures worth of renovation awaiting us.
21:56 jcamins She's a lot luckier than us.
21:56 jcamins True.
21:56 wizzyrea well lucky cait too, she gets to have breakfast with oleonard
21:55 jcamins At least we have an excuse for quartz counters... the counters require replacement.
21:54 jcamins Lucky us.
21:54 jcamins wizzyrea: yeah.
21:54 * mbalmer will have to remove a lot of backquotes for this to work
21:53 wizzyrea lucky you
21:53 jcamins We'll be redoing the kitchen, knocking out a couple of closets, and possibly redoing the bathroom in a year or two.
21:53 cait wizzyrea: he has to get up early to eat breakfast with me :P
21:53 wizzyrea later oleo... bother.
21:52 oleonard I guess it's bed time for me. See y'all later
21:52 wahanui some of it is, like, foolish pride
21:52 jcamins gmcharlt: well, some of it.
21:52 gmcharlt jcamins: at least you're getting the remodeling done up front
21:52 jcamins Very exciting, and the apartment is *beautiful*. Probably because we ended up redoing almost all the walls, one of the ceilings, replacing all the moulding, and rewiring.
21:51 jcamins Thanks.
21:51 * mbalmer is trying to make the installer work with PostgreSQL
21:51 gmcharlt jcamins: nice
21:51 bag jcamins++ congrats :)
21:50 jcamins Into the first real estate I've ever purchased.
21:50 cait you can't sleep anyway? :)
21:50 jcamins cait: I'm moving on Monday.
21:50 cait gmcharlt: don't... he will not be able tosleep!
21:49 bag one of my favs so far
21:48 bag yeah this is really exciting :D
21:48 jcamins gmcharlt: yes, I had considered that. :)
21:47 * gmcharlt whispers "native indexing of MODS and EAD" into jcamins ear
21:47 jcamins :)
21:47 cait he is so excited about the possibilites
21:47 gmcharlt cait: I rather suspected not ;)
21:47 cait gmcharlt: I think you couldn't stop him :)
21:47 gmcharlt jcamins: link away
21:46 cait :)
21:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
21:46 jcamins Bug 7417.
21:45 jcamins bag: lemme check.
21:45 bag jcamins: what bug #?
21:45 jcamins Guess I should update my bug to depend on the now-reported DOM bug.
21:45 bag We did come up with a Spec for this - but I think we only ended up going with about half of it :)
21:45 cait cool :)
21:45 gmcharlt cait: exactly
21:44 bag yeah cait that is definitely one area that I see some more development to happen
21:44 cait so you would use a RecordNormalizer to do that?
21:44 cait I was reading through the bug
21:44 cait that's ok :)
21:43 gmcharlt cait: no, but will include the beginning of a framework to make that possible
21:43 mbalmer mm
21:43 * cait looks at you hopefully
21:43 cait gmcharlt: pulling in information from authorities?
21:42 oleonard Awesome
21:42 gmcharlt oleonard: yep
21:42 oleonard So some kind of code sprint is happening to make it so?
21:42 bag of course :) (maybe hopefully was a typo - it is Friday afternoon after all)
21:41 gmcharlt bag: oh, definitely cross-subfield searching
21:40 bag oleonard: it should be a great base for plenty of more development (and hopefully better cross-subfield searching :) )
21:39 gmcharlt wizzyrea: less painful, hopefully
21:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records
21:39 bag ah oleonard bug 7818
21:39 wizzyrea is that like a caber toss?
21:39 oleonard Okay I'll bite, bag, what's a code toss, and where?
21:30 * bag is looking forward to the weekend code toss
21:20 jcamins Excellent!
21:19 gmcharlt jcamins: right -- and yes
21:19 jcamins The desired functionality is that every subfield of 600, including $a, should be in the Subject:w index.
21:19 jcamins melm 600 Subject:w
21:19 jcamins melm 600$a Subject:w
21:18 gmcharlt jcamins: not quite following - example?
21:18 jcamins Are you going to have the script combine like terms? That would be very useful, and reduce the "gee, I didn't expect it to do that" issue.
21:18 gmcharlt oleonard: howdy
21:17 oleonard Hi gmcharlt, long time no see
21:17 jcamins It certainly will.
21:17 jcamins Yes.
21:17 gmcharlt I do expect this to pooch the size of the ZEbra indexes on disk
21:16 gmcharlt jcamins: just a bit of XSLT that stuffs all <controlfield> and <subfield> content into a big indexed entry
21:15 * jcamins is operating under the assumption that much of this is already done... if you don't actually know yet, I can wait until you do. ;)
21:15 jcamins Whichever it is.
21:15 jcamins Or all any.
21:15 jcamins How are you doing any all?
21:15 jcamins Fair enough.
21:14 gmcharlt certainly I'll at least make sure that any record.abs constructs in the UNIMARC configs get at least a nod towards handling
21:14 jcamins gmcharlt: that'll be quite a script!
21:14 gmcharlt jcamins: I am cowardly hoping that the record.abs => XSLT conversion script will prove up to the task
21:13 jcamins gmcharlt: is this MARC21-only, or are you actually brave enough to tackle UNIMARC as well?
21:11 jcamins_away gmcharlt: thanks.
21:11 gmcharlt jcamins_away: noted
21:10 jcamins_away There's a syspref already for toggling that on/off.
21:10 jcamins_away You should leave $9 as an option for tracings.
21:10 * cait waves at gmcharlt :)
21:09 cait :)
21:09 jcamins_away Oh, there's gmcharlt.
21:09 cait oh wow
21:09 jcamins_away gmcharlt: around?
21:09 gmcharlt hopefully all to the good
21:09 * gmcharlt will be engaging in some major code-throwing this weekend
21:08 bag YAY
21:08 huginn gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records
21:08 gmcharlt @bug 7818
21:05 jcamins_away cait: true, but at least I have a switch. :P
21:04 cait switch vs. real people - switch looses :)
21:04 cait hmpf
21:04 * jcamins_away has his new switch. This is reason to be happy! :D
21:04 bag :(
21:04 cait and now I am back and sad in my hotel room
21:04 bag oh cool
21:04 cait dobrica, marijana, owen and me
21:04 cait we had our last dinner in marseille
21:04 cait nope
21:03 bag cait you back home?
21:03 * cait waves
21:02 jcamins_away Thankfully we haven't actually moved yet.
21:02 libsysguy thats weird
21:02 wizzyrea boooo
21:02 jcamins_away Even if you select a different one.
21:02 jcamins_away I always forget that some orders they'll only send to the first address you have configured.
21:02 libsysguy ?
21:01 jcamins_away Ugh. Stupid Amazon.
21:01 jcamins_away *that
21:01 libsysguy exactly
21:01 jcamins_away Okay, *tht* is weird.
21:01 libsysguy and it failed
21:01 libsysguy i even added Items qw('GetHiddenItemnumbers')
21:00 libsysguy so its super weird
21:00 libsysguy Search.pm has use Items
21:00 jcamins_away Ah, no idea.
21:00 libsysguy yeah but why is it only happening on my instance lol
20:59 jcamins_away You need to add "require C4::Items" on the line before, and prepend C4::Items::.
20:59 libsysguy sekjal couldn't recreate so I just prepended C4::Items::
20:59 libsysguy for some reason it was looking in search for the function instead of Items.pm
20:58 libsysguy it couldn't find GetHiddenItemnumbers
20:58 libsysguy there was an error in search.pm
20:58 libsysguy mostly
20:58 jcamins_away libsysguy: were you successful?
20:58 rangi *nod*
20:58 sekjal great work, hackfesters!
20:57 sekjal later, all. Must dash
20:57 sekjal but for another weekend: this weekend will probably be yardwork
20:57 sekjal could be a fun project
20:57 sekjal yes, we would need to track the expected behaviour, then report any deviations from that
20:56 wahanui hmmm... selenium is more things like "perform this action, ensure that this is the result"
20:56 rangi selenium
20:55 rangi or
20:53 sekjal come up with a bunch of user types, then mix them together in various ratios and volumes to see the end results
20:52 sekjal ooooh, track web analytics with Piwik, then build user emulator profiles off of that
20:52 rangi and profiles
20:51 sekjal would be nice if the behaviour could be built to be a little more intelligent. something to emulate user click patterns on search results
20:51 rangi id do it with WWW::Mechanize
20:51 seneca Later!
20:51 seneca I got to run (now that I've got that fixed).
20:51 seneca Well, if anyone wants me to, I'd be happy to write up a description of that behavior. Just email me: bryan.lakatos@gmail.com
20:51 rangi beyond salvage really, but the idea is ok
20:51 rangi they need a total rewrite
20:50 sekjal rangi: yes, I've seen that
20:50 wizzyrea lol
20:50 rangi sekjal: i meant misc/load_testing :)
20:49 sekjal it may also make sense to go into the documentation... which would be nengard's realm
20:49 wizzyrea or package oriented entries in existing faqs
20:49 wizzyrea FAQ's for package installs, for instance
20:49 sekjal I did a blog post a while back on the current state of Koha LDAP
20:49 wizzyrea and it needs a bit of love anyway
20:49 sekjal rangi: looking at FAQ now
20:48 rangi sekjal: have you seen what we have?
20:48 wizzyrea do you want one?
20:48 wizzyrea sekjal: no, probably not.
20:48 sekjal wizzyrea: do we have an LDAP FAQ section of the website?
20:47 seneca I'd be happy to do it.
20:47 seneca Where would I document such a thing?
20:47 seneca The original problem I was seeing was a lack of updating, but it turns out the cause was incorrect data in an LDAP field
20:46 seneca for example: I had a patron categorycode in my LDAP source that was "lsk" but Koha had the category as "lsk1"
20:46 sekjal seneca: very interesting... that should probably be noted somewhere
20:45 seneca If anyone's interested: When authenticating to an LDAP source with update=1 in koha-conf.xml, if one of the fields being imported doesn't make sense to Koha, Koha won't update any of the patron's fileds
20:45 wizzyrea yes.
20:45 sekjal you know what we need? a library traffic emulator. something that creates a bunch of transactions at some rate faster than normal time, and allows benchmarking, load testing, and debugging
20:44 seneca Figured it out!
20:32 seanb definitely agree with that, after jacking up my first couple of installs
20:32 rangi it would be a huge mistake to add cron jobs without understanding what are running already
20:31 rangi look at cron.daily/koha-common and others, you'll find they already are
20:30 seanb how would i safely add them to the koha user's crontab?
20:28 seanb what if i want to utilize those other cron jobs?
20:28 seanb or not
20:27 seanb sweet
20:26 seanb well look at that. steps through the cron file
20:26 rangi there is no reason to su or login as that user ever
20:26 libsysguy thanks rangi, I didn't know package did that
20:26 seanb ah
20:26 rangi in /etc/cron.d/koha-common
20:25 seanb cool. i wasn't sure if changing the password for system koha was bad or good
20:25 rangi its already done
20:25 rangi if you are running packages
20:25 rangi you dont need to set up your zebra cron
20:25 libsysguy but im no pro on package installs
20:25 libsysguy and reset it
20:25 libsysguy then passwd koha-koha
20:25 libsysguy well you can do sudo su
20:24 seanb i assume the package did
20:24 seanb i didn't make that account
20:24 seanb i have no idea what the password is for koha-koha. and this is my question: how do i find it?
20:24 libsysguy so use your system user to run the cron
20:24 libsysguy koha-koha should be the system user
20:24 seanb right
20:23 libsysguy koha_koha should be your database user
20:23 seanb however, in /etc/passwd i see "koha-koha"
20:23 libsysguy is what I would do
20:23 seanb in the koha-conf file, the user is listed "koha_koha". and the password is there
20:23 libsysguy the one you used to install with
20:23 seanb so, i need to set up my zebra cron. i know i'm supposed to use the koha user to run those, but i have two possible koha users. not sure which to use
20:22 wahanui somebody said the first question was "What are you trying to do?"
20:22 wizzyrea the first question
20:22 seanb i was asking a ton of questions yesterday, because i decided to do a git install. nuked it and went with a package install.
20:21 seanb perfect!
20:21 libsysguy ohh likes odd questions
20:21 seanb got an odd question
20:21 seanb howdy
20:20 libsysguy still failed
20:20 libsysguy trying
20:19 sekjal specific author?
20:19 libsysguy i can try *wonders what would have few results
20:19 sekjal perhaps it's related to pagination somehow
20:19 sekjal I have very few biblios
20:19 sekjal can you try searching for a result set less than the max per page?
20:19 libsysguy thanks for looking sekjal
20:19 libsysguy maybe I can just leave it as I have it
20:18 libsysguy strange
20:18 sekjal libsysguy: I cannot reproduce the error
20:16 seneca no one to blame but myself... ;P
20:16 seneca nope - I'm all by my lonesome. :)
20:16 libsysguy no worries, I'm glad its working
20:16 libsysguy did somebody come look over your shoulder
20:16 seneca thanks anyway
20:15 seneca :)
20:15 seneca Always, right?!
20:15 libsysguy haha
20:15 seneca guess there's more going on that I thought!
20:15 seneca that's ok - it seems to be working suddenly..
20:14 libsysguy im sorry
20:14 libsysguy but I definitely do not
20:14 libsysguy I thought I had update on
20:14 libsysguy seneca I lied
20:13 libsysguy it works
20:13 libsysguy when I path C4::Items::GetHiddenItemnumbers
20:12 libsysguy which i suspect is why it works on my devel server and not in prod
20:12 libsysguy yes I do
20:12 libsysguy sekjal…i am major fail…when I upgraded I definitely delete my css file in prog
20:12 sekjal libsysguy: not getting the error by searching the OPAC... do you have opachiddenitems set up?
20:11 libsysguy oh
20:11 seneca Thanks - I thought I did too, but I recently added more fields to populate from LDAP to Koha, and now it doesn't seem to be working...
20:10 libsysguy let me patch my opac so searching works and ill pull up what I've got
20:10 libsysguy one sec, I've got that set up
20:10 libsysguy seneca
20:09 seneca I've got <update>1</update> in my koha-conf.xml, but the fields aren't changing in Koha when a user logs into Koha and the field content has changed in the LDAP source
20:09 libsysguy yeah that didn't make it find the function either
20:08 libsysguy ill see if that resolves my issue
20:08 sekjal libsysguy: not yet... will try
20:08 libsysguy are you seeing the same error sekjal?
20:08 sekjal use C4::Items qw(GetHiddenItemnumbers)
20:08 seneca Anyone familiar with LDAP authentication?
20:08 libsysguy yeah but its not the right way to fix it
20:07 sekjal that would fix it
20:07 libsysguy i wonder if I change it to C4::Items::GetHiddenItemnumbers
20:07 libsysguy oh no...
20:07 libsysguy is it in the search function
20:07 sekjal subroutine is still defined and exported... but it's not picking up... wonder why
20:06 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:06 rangi @later tell sjeffrey http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html has unified history of all 4537 days the project has been running
20:04 libsysguy hmm
20:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6488 critical, P2, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, opachiddenitems not working in master
20:02 sekjal bug 6488
20:01 libsysguy *from the opac*
20:01 libsysguy but im getting it anytime i do a search in prod
20:01 libsysguy im not getting it on my test install
20:00 libsysguy hmm
19:58 sekjal new one on me
19:56 libsysguy has anybody seen this one yet Undefined subroutine &C4::Search::GetHiddenItemnumbers?
19:50 libsysguy update success :)
19:48 libsysguy I was running v 3.07.00.006
19:48 libsysguy ack 30 db updates
19:47 libsysguy haha
19:47 jcamins I'll probably be back at various points over the weekend, and starting Tuesday I'll actually be living in our new apartment. :)
19:45 jcamins libsysguy: I had a feeling. Note for the future: install dependencies first. :P
19:45 libsysguy yes I did jcamins
19:45 jcamins *week
19:45 jcamins Okay, I'm not going to get any more work done today. My weekend is over.
19:44 jcamins libplack-perl
19:44 chris_n the water's fine
19:44 chris_n feel free to jump in
19:43 jcamins I saw those e-mails yesterday.
19:43 jcamins Oh yeah.
19:43 sekjal jcamins: circ matrix and some sysprefs
19:43 jcamins chris_n: ah.
19:43 chris_n jcamins: everything :)
19:43 jcamins What are we contextualizing?
19:43 sekjal chris_n: sounds good
19:42 chris_n sekjal: I'll follow up on our discussion re contextualization next week
19:42 * chris_n wondered why CPAN was slow this afternoon ;-)
19:41 jcamins libsysguy: did you take the production system down *before* you installed the prerequisites?
19:37 sekjal jcamins: not that I could find... but i didn't look for very long
19:37 jcamins sekjal: no debs?
19:37 libsysguy that one is awesome
19:36 libsysguy even the time travel module from cpan
19:36 * sekjal tried installing Plack on his laptop on the trainride home... felt like every single CPAN module was downloaded and tested
19:34 jcamins wizzyrea: well, yeah, that's true.
19:34 * chris_n defaults
19:33 wizzyrea then eythian
19:33 * wizzyrea defaults to google
19:32 libsysguy reminds me of sekjal QA-ing :p
19:32 libsysguy its always fun to watch the tests pass or fail
19:31 libsysguy i always forget about the debs
19:31 libsysguy lol
19:31 * jcamins defaults to asking eythian what the apt package is.
19:31 * libsysguy defaults to cpan
19:30 libsysguy its almost done
19:30 libsysguy oh well
19:30 libsysguy oops
19:30 jcamins libsysguy: sudo apt-get install libmodern-perl-perl?
19:30 libsysguy and some other Dependencies from make
19:30 libsysguy Modern::Perl
19:30 jcamins libsysguy: what are you installing from CPAN?
19:29 * libsysguy crosses fingers that cpan doesn't fail
19:24 jcamins libsysguy: yeah, that's what I'd recommend.
19:23 libsysguy and my web config
19:23 libsysguy ok I can re-run make…I'll just backup koha-conf
19:22 libsysguy were there changes to the config files?
19:22 jcamins libsysguy: when sekjal says "verify your zebra configs," he actually means "replace everything in etc/zebradb/marc_defs and etc/zebradb/authorities and etc/zebradb/biblios and etc/zebradb/etc
19:22 jcamins Or manually update the Zebra config files.
19:22 jcamins libsysguy: you have to rerun make and make install.
19:22 jcamins Your catalogers will notice if you don't.
19:22 jcamins And do remember to update all the Zebra configs.
19:21 libsysguy jcamins++ sekjal++
19:21 libsysguy thanks sekjal
19:21 libsysguy ok
19:21 sekjal libsysguy: no, your koha-dev should be fine, though you may want to verify your zebra configs
19:20 libsysguy I shouldn't have to rerun the install right?
19:20 libsysguy anyway
19:20 libsysguy ok cool that worked…dunno why I thought the origional checkout was important
19:18 libsysguy ok cool i can do that
19:18 sekjal and the master_whatever to master
19:18 sekjal then rename the current master to master_old
19:18 libsysguy ok
19:18 sekjal you can create a fresh new branch off origin/master
19:18 sekjal libsysguy: that's okay
19:18 jcamins Then rerun the installer because you'll need to update all the config files.
19:18 libsysguy would that have any affect on it
19:17 sekjal git fetch origin first, if you haven't already
19:17 libsysguy apparently whatever changes I made happened in the master branch
19:17 jcamins libsysguy: then do git checkout -b master_whatever origin/master
19:17 jcamins libsysguy: just do git stash
19:17 libsysguy none that I need to keep
19:17 sekjal libsysguy: do you have uncommitted changes?
19:16 libsysguy and instead of dealing with that I thought I could just delete kohaclone and recheckout
19:16 libsysguy from when I was a bigger git newb than I am now
19:16 libsysguy and i got a conflict on the po files
19:16 libsysguy my repo is messed up
19:15 jcamins libsysguy: what are you doing?
19:15 libsysguy if i delete the kohaclone folder and re-checkout I shouldn't have to run the install again right?
19:15 jcamins Good plan.
19:14 libsysguy maybe I'll hold off :p
19:14 libsysguy and I'd get complaints from intranet users
19:14 libsysguy well considering not many people use the opac
19:14 libsysguy oh i see
19:14 sekjal apparently it's pretty good for the OPAC, but not stable yet for intranet
19:14 jcamins sjeffery: I want one of those!
19:14 sekjal much faster
19:14 sekjal libsysguy: PSGI instead of CGI
19:13 * druthb points at bag.
19:13 druthb we need a librarian in here for an emergency shushing!
19:13 sjeffery I read that and I thought it was some sort of platapus-based backup system
19:13 jcamins libsysguy: dpavlin reported a gazillion bugs. I'd recommend against it.
19:13 libsysguy plackup?
19:13 * sekjal applauds libsysguy for running master
19:11 bag if you're going all out - you might as well put plackup on it too ;)
19:11 bag wow good luck - I wonder how stable master really is :)
19:10 libsysguy so front end users really shouldn't notice a difference
19:10 libsysguy all the searching goes through Ebsco anyway
19:10 libsysguy i received none…i did receive excited emails for new features
19:09 libsysguy meh I sent out an email for 2pm for objections
19:09 jcamins I would have thought they meant 5pm.
19:09 libsysguy besides nobody checks out books from my library :p
19:09 libsysguy the librarians told me "friday afternoon"
19:08 libsysguy its our slow time
19:08 jcamins You're not even waiting until 5?
19:08 jcamins libsysguy: at 2pm?
19:08 * libsysguy unleashes master on prod
19:07 jcamins druthb: Albert Edward is the Prince of Wales in question.
19:03 * druthb wonders about jcamins' sanity sometimes, truly.
19:02 jcamins Where did one find the Prince of Wales in 1863?
19:00 * druthb gets pounced
19:00 druthb :D
19:00 * wizzyrea pounces druthb with hugs
19:00 druthb it's very suspicious, wizzyrea.
18:57 wizzyrea i know, he seemed almost sentient there didn't he ;)
18:55 * jcamins tries to figure out where the Prince of Wales would be likely to sit for a portrait in a toy room.
18:55 druthb just checkin'.
18:54 wahanui She finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
18:54 druthb wahanui: druthb?
18:54 * druthb squints at wahanui.
18:53 wahanui I know. That's why I said it.
18:53 jcamins Very true.
18:53 jcamins lol
18:53 wahanui morning is a state of mind.
18:53 sjeffery Morning!
18:52 druthb o/
18:51 wizzyrea the employer of the RM usually gets a bit of a boost :)
18:50 wizzyrea so that skews it a bit
18:50 wizzyrea plus paul is RM atm
18:50 wizzyrea a lot :)
18:50 sjeffery I had never realized how much biblibre does
18:45 sjeffery Look how many lines Chris had removed...must be an aweful coder, right? :)
18:45 sjeffery Further down
18:45 jcamins wizzyrea: yeah, but it doesn't list company that I can see.
18:44 wizzyrea i like the ohloh ones because they are 3rd party.
18:44 wizzyrea yea that'd be another place
18:44 jcamins http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/?s=statistics
18:43 wizzyrea hm
18:43 sjeffery Running 8 but going through a weird proxy server.
18:43 * wizzyrea shudders
18:43 jcamins IE6.
18:43 wizzyrea flash?
18:43 sjeffery I suspect I am not supposed to get a large block of white space in the center
18:42 wizzyrea ohloh usually has pretty good stats.
18:42 wizzyrea this may be one of them
18:42 wizzyrea http://www.ohloh.net/p/koha?ref=WidgetProjectPartnerBadge
18:41 jcamins sjeffery: rangi does a statistics thing every so often.
18:41 wizzyrea oh, sec
18:41 sjeffery Dag nabbit, where is that page that lists % of code contributions by company?
17:58 mbalmer the basic problem was, that stephane and I choose a bad example for DBQ, something that can very easily be accomplished using DBI.
17:57 jcamins ;)
17:57 jcamins No doubt you can see why I would object strongly to that.
17:55 mbalmer jcamins, ok, so I guess we settled that one. I will also mention that on the corresponding Wiki page.
17:54 mbalmer It has to be stated loud and clearly: BibLibre did a great job organizing the Hackfest, many, many thanks!
17:54 jcamins mbalmer: okay, so long as 1 and 2 come first (and it was my understanding that we were going in the order 3, 1, and never 2), that makes sense.
17:53 mbalmer hdl, it was really nice being there, thanks for organizing!
17:53 hdl Thanks for coming and for your work mbalmer
17:53 wizzyrea later hdl
17:53 mbalmer The order should be like this: 1) Standard SQL wherever possible, 2) DBI for metadata access etc 3) DBQ if there is really no other solution
17:53 hdl see you folks.
17:52 mbalmer jcamins, no, that was not the goal. Sorry if I made it look like that, I was unclear, then.
17:52 mbalmer I just wanted to make it clear. when we saw Ian Walls reply, we rewrote that part to use DBI column_info(). It is really not the intend to duplicate code that is in DBI.
17:51 jcamins My understanding was that DBQ was intended as an *alternative* to using DBI's methods for retrieving column information, etc.
17:51 mbalmer np.
17:51 mbalmer and we try hard to keep it as small as possible.
17:51 jcamins Apologies.
17:51 jcamins mbalmer: I stand corrected, then.
17:51 mbalmer it is the last resort.
17:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7365 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, marc, Needs Signoff , Koha uses MySQL
17:50 mbalmer hi jcamins. just a clarification, since you start spreading FUD about DBQ: The goal is *NOT* to use a differen DB abstraction layer. We use DBI wherever possible (see the latest patch in bug 7365), DBQ is only, and really only, for those cases that can not be covered by DBI or standard SQL.
17:41 jcamins Yes?
17:41 wahanui i think jcamins is an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or against all things wine.
17:41 mbalmer jcamins?
17:38 mbalmer back home.
17:38 mbalmer re.
17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements
17:36 jcamins Wow, life really is much better with bug 7284. :)
17:29 sekjal yes, great job to the hackfesters! Koha 3.8 is going to ROCK
17:19 * dpavlin whishes everything best to all people at #hackfest12
17:10 chris_n looks like it was very productive
17:10 chris_n biblibre++ # for the hackfest
16:52 clrh I leave bybye
16:33 jcamins (the XML header should be generated on the fly, not stored in marcxml)
16:32 jcamins Right now it's not entirely valid XML, so the DOM filter gets unhappy.
16:32 jcamins hdl: if we switch to XML-only with Zebra, we'll have to fix how we store biblioitems.marcxml.
16:30 * marcelr waves goodbye
16:29 jcamins hdl: I don't think there's really any advantage from using USMARC format.
16:28 jcamins hdl: it seems to me that would be acceptable.
16:26 hdl </idzebra>
16:26 hdl <filename>/tmp/iwO6JH8239/biblio/exported_records</filename>
16:26 hdl <localnumber>4</localnumber>
16:26 hdl <size>1129</size>
16:26 hdl <idzebra xmlns="http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/">
16:26 hdl (asking that because of that :
16:26 hdl jcamins: would xml only for zebra results be an option in your opinion ?
16:21 cait bye all!
16:21 cait ok
16:21 cait *cry*
16:21 cait hackfest is over :(
16:13 sekjal jcamins: yes, survived my train ride, back at work
16:12 jcamins sekjal: made it safely back to Amherst, I see. :)
16:06 jcamins (stupid Zebra:( )
16:06 jcamins SearchAuthorities for Zebra has to use PQF.
16:06 jcamins Okay, so that will be there before this is finished?
16:05 hdl1 and supported.
16:05 jcamins (also supported)
16:05 hdl1 PQF, CCL2PRN, CQL are to be implemented
16:05 jcamins hdl1: right. Why not PQF?
16:04 hdl1 jcamins: remember it is first draft...
16:04 talljoy or not set at all.
16:04 talljoy well, it does work. the issues is the items.permanent_location is being set to NULL
16:04 hdl1 mmm seems that the pastebot is not really up.
16:04 jcamins talljoy: I don't think the shelving cart works.
16:04 hdl1 http://paste.koha-community.org/319
16:03 hdl1 jcamins: here you are.
16:02 clrh jcamins: np :)
16:01 clrh but it is cool you feel positive thing about what I show you (even if a little thing)
16:01 talljoy anyone experienced problems with items.permanent_location not updating when an item is edited? The field is being set to NULL which then causes major problems when the CART sys pref is set. This causes significant data losses for libraries.
16:01 jcamins clrh: I know. But I'll pester hdl1 anyway. ;)
16:01 clrh jcamins: not sure to be able to answer to all you quetsion, I have the feelings of a big work in progress :)
16:01 jcamins CCL is very, very buggy problematic.
16:01 jcamins I think it's better to take PQF, or to use some sort of external query tokenizer.
16:00 clrh I will rename "lib" into Koha then (in wip-searchengine-layer
16:00 jcamins hdl1: what will the query that Data::SearchEngine::Zebra look like?
16:00 jcamins Right.
16:00 clrh but in <PATH>::SearchEngine::Zebra::Search and <PATH>::SearchEngine::Zebra::Index and other modles - depends of the use cases we will discover ;)
15:59 hdl1 jcamins: /me working on Data::SearchEngine::Zebra
15:59 clrh Koha or C4? didnt' follow the discuss
15:58 jcamins So there's two parts to this. 1) everything using Zebra has to go into Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra, and 2, there needs to be a Data::SearchEngine::Zebra.
15:58 clrh great
15:58 jcamins That's what I thought. :)
15:58 clrh ok
15:58 jcamins Right.
15:58 clrh in C4::SearchEngine::Zebra::Search which will call a Data::SearchEngine::Zebra
15:58 jcamins Right, but I'm thinking about inside the C4::SearchEngine::Zebra module.
15:57 clrh the implementation is hidden
15:57 clrh in koha you could call C4::SearchEngine::Search->search no "zebra inside"
15:57 libsysguy on my part
15:57 jcamins So then instead of invoking zoom directly in Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra, we'll invoke Data::SearchEngine::Zebra?
15:56 libsysguy clrh: il est sorti comme un geste grossier
15:55 clrh ok
15:55 jcamins Right. I meant zoom.
15:55 clrh libsysguy: I really didn't understand what you said
15:55 clrh maybe hdl could better answer I think he uses zoom
15:55 libsysguy sorry clrh I didn't mean that in a bad way, I just have the sense of humor of a 12 year old :p
15:55 jcamins So basically it's a wrapper around Yaz?
15:54 clrh it is just an api to acces a server, it is not koha specific
15:54 jcamins I see.
15:54 clrh hdl is writing the "Data::SEarchengine:zebra" with juan
15:54 clrh it is a cpan module
15:54 clrh jcamins: it is already the case
15:54 wizzyrea <the quote>
15:54 wizzyrea @quote add
15:54 jcamins So your thought is to have Data::SearchEngine::Solr be a separate CPAN package?
15:53 libsysguy how do you do a quote
15:53 libsysguy LMAO
15:53 clrh oups you are right :/
15:52 jcamins Hehe. In English that means something else.
15:52 clrh french
15:52 clrh poo is a frensh acronym
15:52 jcamins Ooh, yes.
15:52 clrh object oriented prog yes :)
15:52 oleonard OOP?
15:52 jcamins POO?
15:51 clrh jcamins: do you know poo concepts? if yes, do you have a feedback to give me on this: https://github.com/clrh/wip-searchengine-layer (it is reaaaally justa start but a start yet)
15:49 oleonard That's what I thought.
15:49 wahanui oleonard: sorry...
15:49 oleonard wahanui, you'd better back that statement up with real pizza
15:45 wahanui rumour has it pizza is in the oven
15:45 jcamins magnus_afk: pizza?
15:45 * magnuse calls it a week
15:44 jcamins Hehe.
15:44 asaurat I've always avoided Danny De Vito but so far he never tried to hug me
15:43 jcamins :)
15:42 jcamins asaurat: if you don't like surprise hugs, avoid American actors. Walk into a room full of actors you don't know, and they'll *all* try and hug you.
15:41 asaurat ok ! good to know =) that's nice but it's awkward too when you get the surprise !
15:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7470 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Babeltheque improvement and social networks links (like, +1,...)
15:40 marcelr Looking at bug 7470
15:40 oleonard_ Americans are huggers too asaurat
15:40 asaurat (but is there a video explaining this habbit of hugging people in Germany ? ;))
15:39 asaurat oleonard_: cait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6DJiCKQMPw
15:39 jcamins oleonard told me where to look.
15:39 clrh :)
15:39 clrh ok
15:39 clrh it is really a draft
15:39 jcamins clrh: I found it, thanks. :)
15:39 clrh jcamins: I put things on rfc solr on koha community
15:38 clrh we did a big debrief where people show us things
15:38 clrh jcamins: hm paul will do a mail to resume hoackfest
15:35 jcamins http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Switch_to_Solr_RFC
15:35 jcamins oleonard_: I did not. The answer to my question, then is "yes, on the wiki." :)
15:34 oleonard_ She was just showing us some of the work, and I know there was some info there
15:34 oleonard_ Did you look on the wiki jcamins?
15:34 jcamins Juan mentioned something about that.
15:33 jcamins clrh: is there some sort of planning document that you came up with about the C4::Search->Koha::Search[::]Engine migration?
15:29 magnuse ok, changed it
15:29 magnuse :-)
15:29 jcamins I probably should have revised the commit message, but I was feeling lazy.
15:28 jcamins I think so.
15:28 jcamins I just copy-and-pasted the earlier commit message into it when I signed off to confirm that it still worked in every case that I had checked.
15:28 magnuse so it can be set to signed off?
15:27 jcamins magnuse: it meant that it needed more eyes, and to be revised, which Juan did.
15:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio
15:27 magnuse hdl and jcamins: should bug 7430 be set to signed off? jared has called it a "proof-of-concept commit" - not quite sure what that means...
15:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5354 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Partial duplication of a subscription
15:15 marcelr Looking at bug 5354
15:13 jcamins *that exist*
15:13 jcamins Yeah, that's good. Maximum version is also probably necessary, since people might write plugins as work-arounds for issues that exists in a stable version but not master.
15:13 magnuse jcamins: works nicely, i'm signing off
15:12 kyleh right, so if the plugins minimum version exceeds the koha version, it will warn that Koha is out of date for the plugin
15:12 jcamins Oh, yeah, that'd be much faster.
15:12 jcamins I'd really like to get it in to 3.8. :/
15:12 jcamins magnuse: I'd sign off on yours except I'm not at home.
15:12 jcamins magnuse: yup.
15:12 magnuse or maybe just run t/Heading_MARC21.t directly?
15:12 jcamins Koha DB versioning is enforced via a warning, not plugin versioning... right?
15:11 magnuse jcamins: to test 7702 - is it enough to set marcflavour = UNIMARC and run prove before and after the patch? that sort of thing?
15:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5342 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Serial claiming improvements
15:09 marcelr Looking at bug 5342
15:09 kyleh I was also wrong, versioning is enforced via a warning.
15:06 kyleh I belive so, it's been so long since I wrote the original code, I can barely remember ; )
15:06 jcamins kyleh: if you look at C4::Images, that was adapted from the image upload code to be slightly less brittle.
15:06 jcamins kyleh: I see you used the patron image upload code as a template.
15:05 marcelr :)
15:05 paul_p biblibre patches are not easy to signoff but add great features everyone will be happy to have ;-)
15:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7702 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Test for C4::Heading::MARC21 should only run under MARC21
15:05 jcamins Bug 7702 is an easy sign-off, too.
15:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7727 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , NORMARC XSLT OPAC detail view shows double tabs
15:04 magnuse Bug 7727 is an easy signoff - just saying... ;-)
15:04 magnuse yay
15:04 paul_p (still 3 hours left, it's not finished ;-) )
15:04 paul_p hackfester now presenting what has been done this week. I'll write an entry on koha-community.org soon
15:04 jcamins Oh, it's used in the pm, not the pl.
15:03 paul_p marcelr++ (for QAing BibLibre patches ;-) )
15:03 kyleh it really doesn't need to be in there if I add a versioning system.
15:03 jcamins Doesn't seem to be used at all?
15:03 kyleh for the date last updated part
15:01 jcamins Additional question: what's C4::Dates for in there?
15:00 jcamins (not a huge issue, but since I was just looking at the code in lieu of having a computer to test it on, I noticed ;)
15:00 jcamins Also, remember that we should be switching to .tt instead of .tmpl.
15:00 kyleh good idea, I think I'll add that now.
14:59 jcamins But if you're debugging a plugin, you really need to be able to track *exactly* which code you have installed.
14:59 kyleh It should also have a max version as well.
14:59 jcamins Yeah, I saw that.
14:59 kyleh It does have a last updated field, and a minimum Koha version, though it is not enforced.
14:58 jcamins I love the idea, though.
14:58 jcamins Thanks.
14:58 kyleh jcamins: right they don't, I should add that.
14:58 jcamins That seems to me pretty critical for version 1, because otherwise you can't tell if you successfully updated your plugin or not.
14:57 jcamins kyleh: I didn't look very closely, but does it support versioning? The description mentioned versioning, but when I glanced through the code, I didn't spot any support for that.
14:56 kyleh yes, it's been in production at the CCFLS for quite a while now. It's really nice to be able to add new functionality without modifying the koha codebase. Especially for very specific task that don't make sense to have in koha proper.
14:54 maximep wow, I love 7804. A plugin system is a great idea!
14:47 wizzyrea i see what you did there
14:41 kyleh i've put some notes on the bug report
14:41 kyleh it's a bit more complicated than most testing will be, as it modifies the file system, and also modifies koha-http.conf and koha-conf.xml
14:40 marcelr sounds good
14:40 wizzyrea awesome kyle
14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7804 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add Koha Plugin System
14:40 kyleh bug 7804 is ready for testing if you are interested. If anyone needs assistance, I'll be around.
14:40 wizzyrea OH I see.
14:39 marcelr france is recovering from the wine
14:39 wizzyrea hehehe
14:39 marcelr sorry
14:39 marcelr making some noise
14:39 marcelr hi wizzyrea
14:36 wizzyrea very quiet
14:32 * jcamins waves back.
14:32 * wizzyrea waves
14:16 jcamins lol
14:16 libsysguy seems impossible enough
14:15 libsysguy :p
14:15 libsysguy i see a new project for me
14:15 libsysguy ahh I see...
14:15 jcamins However, I don't care enough about database independence to do the work on switching to a sensible MVC architecture, so I'm ignoring the issue.
14:14 libsysguy hmm
14:14 * jcamins disagrees with this decision.
14:14 jcamins Rather than using DBI or something standard like that.
14:13 jcamins This C4::DBQ.
14:13 jcamins libsysguy: mbalmer and other unidentified developers felt that it was better to write their own database driver.
14:13 libsysguy and in your application logic you don't actaully write sql, you just use the model
14:12 libsysguy similar to the model in an MVC style system
14:12 libsysguy why not have a way to implement database drivers?
14:12 libsysguy I saw the stuff on the devel list about database integration for postgres
14:12 libsysguy so this may be a dumb point to bring up but im curious
14:11 libsysguy and convert all of C4::Dates over to the koha Koha namespace :)
14:11 jcamins True.
14:10 hdl1 well there is always new grounds and horizons.
14:10 libsysguy actaully there are tons of patches I want to write now that hourly is in the core
14:10 jcamins hdl1: yup. So now he has nothing to do with himself.
14:10 libsysguy so yes
14:10 libsysguy jcamins it has been about as long as I have been running KOha
14:10 hdl1 and he got it.
14:10 jcamins hdl1: libsysguy has spent the last, what, year? trying to get hourly into Koha.
14:09 * libsysguy is so excited to update after several months of being behind master
14:09 jcamins hdl1: hourly was pushed!
14:09 libsysguy I'm prepping for the move today
14:09 hdl1 jcamins: ?
14:07 jcamins Poor libsysguy... he probably doesn't know what to do with himself anymore. :P
14:05 oleonard_ is there a magic keyboard shortcut for "disable the wireless?" if so I found it
14:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans
14:00 jcamins Oh, the follow-ups for bug 5549 that fix the unit tests.
13:59 jcamins I guess 7702 won't be subject to feature freeze, since it just fixes some issues with the unit test.
13:59 marcelr true
13:59 jcamins (I mean, I'd like everything to get in, but that's a reasonable request. :P
13:58 jcamins Yeah, that's the big one I'd like to see.
13:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7702 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Test for C4::Heading::MARC21 should only run under MARC21
13:57 jcamins Bug 7702.
13:57 marcelr ;)
13:57 oleonard Ah, that's a good one marcelr
13:56 marcelr 7805 :)
13:55 oleonard Anything last-minute anyone's still hoping to get into 3.8? :)
13:55 jcamins oleonard: not bad. For a change I didn't have to go over to the new apartment this morning.
13:55 * chris_n greets oleonard
13:53 oleonard How's it going jcamins ?
13:49 jcamins_away kmkale: did you test the unsigned off patch?
13:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7376 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , Transfer limits should be checked at check-in
13:27 marcelr paul_p: working on bug 7376
13:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7810 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , C4/Auth.pm - on pack restart session is undefined
13:14 magnuse dpavlin: bug 7810 says "on pack restart" - should that be "on plack restart"?
13:01 marcelr paul_p: dbrev 3.07.00.036 does not include a SetVersion
12:59 marcelr ah came through
12:58 marcelr Readonly
12:58 marcelr DateTime/Set
12:55 marcelr new dependency: Can't locate DateTime/Format/DateParse.pm in @INC ?
12:32 kmkale jcamins_away: atleast that patch ( fix ) is not in master for sure
12:32 jcamins_away (I think this is the same error I encountered in the past)
12:31 jcamins_away kmkale: you can safely ignore the error, though.
12:31 * jcamins_away heads into the city, will check back in from there to hear whether kmkale can find the patch.
12:30 jcamins_away If there isn't, let me know, and I'll try and track down where it went.
12:30 jcamins_away I have to head into the city now, but I think there may be a patch from me awaiting sign off to fix that very issue.
12:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements
12:29 kmkale git log tell me it looks like bug bug 7284?
12:29 jcamins_away I think I patched it, too.
12:29 jcamins_away Agreed.
12:29 chris_n so that's a bug imho
12:29 chris_n but that test should be in t/db_dependent if it requires a db to pass
12:29 kmkale will be empty
12:29 chris_n hmm
12:29 kmkale yah. new install
12:29 chris_n kmkale: it appears you have an empty db?
12:28 chris_n kmkale: looking now
12:28 * chris_n comments on list
12:23 kmkale can anyone tell me a bit about above error?
12:21 marcelr chis=chris
12:21 chris_n FTR, I agree with the proposition, just not the method of adding it to the guidelines
12:21 marcelr hi chis_n: sounded a bit like that, yes
12:20 chris_n re: mysqlisms post
12:20 * chris_n thinks we should be making propositions and soliciting consensus on coding guidelines rather than arbitrarily dictating them
12:19 kmkale new server, fresh git based dev install, no previous install or database
12:19 kmkale fresh in the oven git install gives ^^ error in make test
12:18 pastebot "kmkale" at 113.193.76.222 pasted "make test fails" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/318
12:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Improve order item creation
12:16 marcelr working on bug 7178 now
11:34 marcelr :)
11:33 jcamins Yes please!
11:32 marcelr lunch in france?
11:32 marcelr hi koha
11:23 juan_sieira aloha #koha
11:20 rangi s/of/on/
11:19 rangi that will make jenkins stable again
11:19 rangi theres a patch of 5549
11:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P1 - high, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
11:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7548 normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Master , Missing arguments in the pagination of receptions
11:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Fixing perlcritic violation
11:19 jenkins_koha * koha: Bug 7548 Fix variable scoping in the template - Rebased
11:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #679: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/679/
11:13 rangi its the weekend and the kids are at their grandparents
11:08 cait rangi: go to bed ;)
11:08 cait hi jcamins hi rangi
11:08 jcamins Good morning, #koha.
11:02 magnuse rangi: by 2 minutes?
11:00 rangi Saturday here
10:59 magnuse rangi: friday in da house!
10:58 rangi Sup peeps
10:43 asaurat1 implementing a new grid will require a lot of preparation I guess, so this kind of easy step will be useful
10:41 oleonard It's a start at least, and is not so difficult as re-writing with a new grid
10:41 asaurat1 oleonard: I like the idea!
10:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7812 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add markup to staff client templates to increase customization options
10:37 oleonard cait, asaurat1 : Bug 7812
10:36 alex_a dpavlin++
10:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #679 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #675 18 hr ago)
10:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6679 : Fixing perlcritic violation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88efb109e58d9c47b73b59a64cf8fe1b469d1bc5> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7548' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1474d95c103c27f90361b5b9b93851aff5d92d0c> / Bug 7548 Fix variable scoping in the template - Rebased <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;
10:03 magnuse [off] http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/36x-vs-master.png
10:01 magnuse oh wow, something made the response time of my installation of master much lower a couple days ago
09:59 cait I will come ant take a look
09:59 cait ooh
09:59 francharb cait, the 7178 patch still doesnt apply.. sniff
09:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Improve order item creation
09:30 oleonard Still trying to duplicate the problems reported with the patch for Bug 7178, not succeeding...
09:10 kmkale amazing
09:10 kmkale and she still feels confident enough to present papers
09:10 kmkale she has been learning since pre kohacon11
09:04 magnuse have fun Suzzane
09:04 Suzzane bye everyone..... enjoy your weekend
09:03 Suzzane cant wait
09:03 Suzzane bravo!!!!!
09:03 cait there should be acall for papers
09:03 cait I think mj said start of next week
09:03 Suzzane africa is far, i need to plan earlier......
09:02 Suzzane chap chap......
09:02 magnuse "The next information will probably be the call for papers."
09:02 magnuse http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/
09:02 Suzzane i need to start preparing.....
09:01 Suzzane who is sending for call for papers
09:00 Suzzane i wish to come to scotland and learn more
09:00 Suzzane no, its a special library
09:00 oleonard Is it public?
08:59 Suzzane the programmers have tried to customize it as much as possible but the appearance is not sooooo nice.
08:58 oleonard Suzzane, how was the OPAC a challenge?
08:57 oleonard Thanks wahanui :P
08:57 wahanui rumour has it Marseille is a very contrasted city, some parts are gorgeous, other parts are... well... not so
08:57 oleonard Suzzane: Marseille
08:55 wahanui i guess the hackfest is slowly seing hackers leaving...
08:55 Suzzane where is the hackfest?
08:54 Suzzane OPAC was a major challenge though
08:54 paul_p today is the last day of the hackfest... time passes too fast :(
08:54 Suzzane we managed to configure the system
08:54 paul_p hello #koha
08:54 Suzzane am good,
08:54 paul_p hi Suzzane
08:51 Suzzane Hi paul_p
08:48 cait hmmm
08:44 magnuse better start nagging him ;-)
08:44 cait hope he will remember
08:44 cait yeah, paul_p promised me a follow-up
08:43 cait so no :) it souldn' :)
08:43 magnuse but then you said signoff depended on a followup...
08:43 cait I signed off on it
08:43 cait hm no
08:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7780 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , fix translator tool verbosity
08:43 magnuse cait: should bug 7780 be "needs signoff"?
08:41 magnuse good job anyway!
08:40 cait we know about so far...
08:40 magnuse just 3! :-)
08:40 cait and I missed 3 pages!
08:40 cait hehe it was boring
08:38 magnuse that is awesome
08:38 magnuse cait++
08:37 oleonard cait++
08:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton
08:37 oleonard Module-specific colors now possible thanks to Bug 7760
08:37 Suzzane Halloo everyone
08:37 oleonard http://www.screencast.com/t/v98GyDqINXB1
08:25 wahanui hola, reiveune
08:25 reiveune hello
08:24 gaetan_B hello!
08:24 cait good morning all :)
08:22 Joubu hello
08:22 francharb 0/
08:21 cait you are welcome
08:21 cait :)
08:19 oleonard Thanks to cait for keeping me from panicking when my staff client exploded ;)
08:18 oleonard libreadonly-xs-perl
08:18 oleonard libreadonly-perl
08:18 magnuse ah, DateTime/Format/DateParse.pm
08:18 oleonard libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl
08:17 magnuse which ones would that be?
08:16 * oleonard is surprised this morning by the new dependencies introduced by Hourly Loans
08:12 magnuse hiya alex_a
08:12 alex_a bonjour
08:12 magnuse i hope to do a little signing off today too
08:11 magnuse ouch, needs signoff is back to 84
08:11 magnuse i'd vote for that :-)
08:10 oleonard Maybe just test and sign off rather than try to do anything new.
08:09 oleonard We're just trying to figure out how to best way to prioritize our remaining hours
08:07 magnuse yay!
08:07 magnuse ah, still some time, then
08:07 oleonard I think there will be some socializing tomorrow, so my week isn't quite over
08:07 oleonard I'm leaving very early Sunday morning
08:06 magnuse meh
08:06 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 23, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
08:06 magnuse @wunder boo
08:06 magnuse ooh, nice
08:06 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 14.0°C (9:00 AM CET on March 23, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
08:06 magnuse @wunder marseille
08:06 magnuse oleonard: when are you leaving?
08:06 magnuse namaste kmkale
08:06 kmkale hi magnuse oleonard :)
08:06 magnuse :-(
08:06 oleonard Last day of Hackfest :(
08:04 magnuse yay!
08:02 * oleonard bursts in!
07:29 magnuse kia ora #koha!
06:45 fredericd is it sunny?
06:44 cait onl ysad it's the last day already
06:44 cait good :)
06:44 fredericd good morning cait. How is Marseille going?
06:29 kmkale ltnc
06:29 cait hi kmkale
06:28 kmkale hi cait :)
06:10 cait hi #koha
02:22 huginn Brooke: The operation succeeded.
02:22 Brooke @later tell druthb http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?121+sum+HB752
02:11 Brooke someone remind francharb to drink one for me.
01:59 Brooke night
01:59 * Brooke steals jcamins' away
01:59 * jcamins_away goes to bed.
01:59 jcamins_away Greetings.
01:58 Brooke kia ora