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23:59 * rangi makes an edit
23:57 ibeardslee true
23:56 slef depends on the phone ;)
23:55 ibeardslee bucklame
23:55 slef eythian is stuck in backland?
23:52 rangi yeah saw the wiki edit :)
23:52 slef I am already asleep though
23:52 slef yes, I'm still writing kohacon emails
23:52 slef !?!?
23:51 rangi slef++
23:24 sekjal night, #koha! time for some food, drink and relaxin'
23:20 huginn rangi: Quote #56: "* jdavidb makes sure no kitty carcasses are among the dead bugs." (added by gmcharlt at 01:34 PM, February 11, 2010)
23:20 rangi @quote random
22:54 libsysguy food time
22:54 libsysguy then what new features to add to hourly core
22:53 * libsysguy plots how to get his prod server back up to master
22:53 sekjal our work isn't done, of course, but we're in a much better position now than we were before
22:52 bag YAY
22:52 libsysguy indeed
22:52 rangi *nod*
22:52 sekjal a wonderful example of international, multi-organization cooperation
22:52 libsysguy definitely couldn't have done it on my own
22:52 libsysguy seriously thanks for the support on this on
22:51 libsysguy rangi++ sekjal++
22:51 sekjal rangi++
22:51 sekjal libsysguy++
22:51 sekjal well done libsysguy and rangi.
22:50 libsysguy yayy
22:50 rangi yay!
22:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Failed QA , Hourly Loans
22:50 sekjal well, in that case, I think it's reasonable to update the status of bug 5549
22:49 rangi theres a lot of weird and wonderful ways to do testing :)
22:48 rangi Test::MockDBI
22:47 rangi et al
22:47 rangi or pgtap
22:47 rangi http://theory.github.com/mytap/
22:47 sekjal we don't have one mostly because of @quote 123 issues
22:47 rangi some kinda TAP thing
22:47 rangi and/or
22:46 rangi but just cant work without a populated db
22:46 sekjal Circulation needs a more robust test suite, anyway
22:46 rangi yep its in there now
22:46 sekjal so we pull it, and rebuild it later in t/db_dependent
22:46 sekjal and right, it's just a faulty test
22:46 sekjal no, building a solid test DB is no small feat
22:45 rangi and it is the test that is failing not the code
22:45 rangi im not sure we can get that done before freeze
22:45 rangi while having sample circ rules and biblios and items would be great for all manner of tests
22:45 rangi i think we might jsut have to pull the test
22:45 sekjal need to figure out the plan for updating the database (databaseupdate.pl v. atomicupdate), and deal with rollingloans.t, but I don't think there are any other technical problems identified
22:43 huginn rangi: Quote #30: "< pianohacker> Dealing with me can indeed be painful" (added by chris at 09:34 PM, September 02, 2009)
22:43 rangi @quote random
22:43 huginn rangi: Quote #152: "gmcharlt: Koha: unifying the world one library at a time" (added by wizzyrea at 02:19 PM, September 13, 2011)
22:43 rangi @quote random
22:43 rangi its only the renewal one
22:43 rangi i think so yeah
22:43 sekjal so, I think we're okay on 5549, right? bugs are fixed, just need feedback on the renewals issues the hackfest testers found
22:41 rangi ah yep
22:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7748 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Signed Off , Date not formatted on "Add orders from iso2709 file" page
22:41 sekjal was just looking at bug 7748
22:40 sekjal yes
22:40 rangi if that makes sense
22:40 rangi so the fix needs to be lower
22:40 rangi but we dont want KohaDates doing something different to the places we havent fixed yet
22:40 rangi or killing C4/Dates totally
22:39 rangi is the best option
22:39 rangi fixing $date->output
22:39 sekjal another opportunity for after Hourly Loans is merged
22:39 sekjal shouldn't be hard to do, then
22:39 rangi }
22:39 rangi return $date->output("sspref");
22:39 rangi sub filter { my ($self,$text) = @_; my $date = C4::Dates->new( $text, 'iso' );
22:39 rangi of which only 10 do anything :)
22:39 rangi its a sum total of 31 lines
22:38 sekjal I can see 5549 and 7444 colliding
22:38 rangi ie it just calls format_date
22:38 rangi updating the modules it calls is probably the best bet
22:38 rangi it doesnt do a lot
22:37 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Chris_Cormack
22:37 sekjal hmmm.... we're going to have to update KohaDates to handle timestamps
22:37 libsysguy heh
22:37 rangi with a bird on his head
22:37 rangi heh
22:37 * libsysguy pictures rangi looking like gandolf the grey
22:36 rangi im old and crusty, but i still prefer an vps
22:36 rangi cloud = someone elses computer
22:35 rangi yup
22:35 libsysguy i feel like aws gives me a lot of options…to rip myself off
22:35 rangi linode are good, solid
22:34 libsysguy when that is up ill move elsewhere
22:34 libsysguy I only have the free account with them
22:34 rangi amazon gets none of my money
22:33 rangi like hell :)
22:33 libsysguy you could move it to aws :p
22:30 rangi i might have to kick in some more money and get more ram for my linode
22:30 sekjal I'm seeing much better behaviour, yes
22:29 rangi bugs should hopefully be more responsive now
22:29 libsysguy im glad we are all on the same page :p
22:29 sekjal lol
22:29 libsysguy ^^
22:29 rangi *nod*
22:29 sekjal ^^
22:29 libsysguy but i agree with rangi, there are a treasure trove of follow up enhancements that need to go with hourly
22:29 sekjal there'll be plenty of extra work we can do on this, once the core functionality is in place
22:28 rangi yep, that could be a nice follow enh
22:28 libsysguy well that is no good
22:28 sekjal as it stands, if you specify the renewal due date, it renews to 00:00 that day
22:28 libsysguy ^^
22:25 sekjal looks like our JS Calendar has a showsTime option which will include the times along with the date... could be handy to implement for renewals, hardduedates, etc
22:13 rangi yep!
22:13 sekjal 23 bugs in my QAQ, not including 5549. but if we can put that one to bed, I'll consider the night a resounding success
22:11 libsysguy rangi++ sekjal++
22:10 sekjal rangi++
22:10 sekjal thanks, rangi!
22:10 rangi pushing now
22:10 rangi fixed bug
22:09 libsysguy agreed, that thing is out of control
22:09 sekjal I've been meaning to write one
22:09 libsysguy oh the smart rules
22:09 sekjal that needs a new basis STAT
22:09 sekjal and I think what I'm really unhappy about is the circ matrix
22:09 sekjal libsysguy: I'm not sure my way of doing it is actually any better
22:09 libsysguy *not now*
22:08 sekjal would make the suspension in (unit of time) a little more flexible
22:08 libsysguy well maybe it can be fixed?
22:08 sekjal I wish Hourly Loans has been implemented the way I noted in the spec... with a single unit of minutes, instead of splitting it out into a separate column
22:07 rangi yeah bots again
22:05 sekjal just noting that... if my comment would ever SAVE
22:05 sekjal right
22:05 rangi _FixFineDaysOnReturn
22:05 rangi and this solves their finedays bug
22:05 sekjal rangi: is this _FixOverduesOnReturn?
22:05 * rangi will fix
22:05 rangi we are still use C4::Dates->new
22:04 rangi but when leveling the fine on return
22:04 rangi fines.pl
22:04 rangi is how we do it for fines
22:04 rangi my $datedue = dt_from_string( $overdue->{date_due} );
22:04 rangi ah yes
22:01 mveron good night #koha
21:57 libsysguy rangi++
21:56 * rangi finds the call to days_between
21:55 rangi hence the no truncate
21:55 rangi ahh those are C4/Date objects not DateTime ones
21:54 libsysguy i believe so
21:54 rangi cool, merged_5549 eh?
21:54 libsysguy ok im going to do a pull just to get the changes you've made
21:54 rangi but i push the fixes to merged_5549
21:53 rangi no, on my desktop
21:53 libsysguy rangi are you working on it directly in the pull repo?
21:53 sekjal that doesn't sound like what they're noting, though
21:53 sekjal maybe they're specifying the date?
21:53 rangi yeah i couldnt either
21:53 sekjal renewals work just fine for me
21:52 sekjal I can't reproduce the renewals bug
21:52 libsysguy i've definitely seen this one before then
21:52 rangi right
21:52 sekjal it just throws up the error
21:52 sekjal rangi: the checkin seems to go through
21:52 libsysguy I feel like i've seen this one before
21:52 rangi yep looking into it now
21:52 libsysguy ack new hourly bug
21:44 cait night #koha :)
21:44 cait he is still too fast for me...
21:41 oleonard Good night #koha
21:41 oleonard Okay, some messaging with home and a tiny bit of work and now I'm ready for bed.
20:56 cait it is
20:54 jcamins slef: oh no! That's even worse!
20:53 slef jcamins: no, cocoa solids just don't like me much.
20:50 jcamins Oh no! Did slef give up chocolate for Lent?
20:49 slef http://youtube.com/watch?v=vfdGV7uznfM about 1m20 in
20:49 cait we just came back from dinner
20:49 slef did you miss the link earlier?
20:49 * cait offers slef some cocolateless sweets
20:49 jcamins It sure does!
20:49 cait that sounds... threatening
20:49 cait oh wow
20:49 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
20:49 slef @later tell magnus_away here, I want a word with you!
20:48 cait hm no
20:48 jcamins cait: ah. But if it were a noun, "ist" would have been at the end?
20:48 cait sehr gut
20:48 rangi cait: das ist gut, ja?
20:48 wizzyrea surely not
20:48 cait so it is prohibited
20:47 cait verboten is an adjective
20:47 sjeffery Am I the only one that ever changes the language of Koha on the front-end thinking that it changes the language of the displayed record?
20:47 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kIFTHoc-H0
20:47 cait rangi did it perfectly
20:47 sekjal okay, preconf done. going to migrate to another wifi hotspot
20:47 cait nope
20:47 rangi and a nz band made a song about it
20:47 wizzyrea oh my
20:47 jcamins cait: Shouldn't it be das verboten ist?
20:47 cait I will do it
20:47 cait okok
20:47 cait *sigh*
20:46 cait so noone is going to fix it for me? :(
20:46 rangi https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Miriam_A._Ferguson
20:46 rangi its based on a quote by miriam a. ferguson
20:45 rangi hehe
20:45 * wizzyrea does a double take
20:45 rangi if the queens english was good enough for jesus christ, it's good enough for me
20:45 wizzyrea oh sorry, they do have es I guess.
20:44 wizzyrea if we removed the translations, we'd be ptfs.
20:44 * wizzyrea gives sjeffery the eye. You know the one.
20:44 oleonard ...and only ones which were in Raiders of the Lost Ark
20:44 sjeffery Well if we removed translations, that would make the code simpler:)
20:44 eythian_bucklame +s
20:44 eythian_bucklame oleonard only know German swear words.
20:44 rangi das ist verboten!
20:43 oleonard I think you'd be unhappy with any of my solutions
20:43 cait fix the german translation file for 3.6.3? ;)
20:43 cait you don't really want me to make suggestions? :)
20:43 oleonard cait, I'm back from dinner so early I hardly know what to do with my time!
20:42 cait hi liz :)
20:42 cait hi owen :)
20:42 oleonard Hi
20:42 wahanui well, oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler
20:42 rangi hey oleonard
20:41 wizzyrea hi cait :)
20:35 cait hi rangi :)
20:35 rangi hi cait and hdl
20:34 cait hi jcamins :)
20:33 jcamins Hi cait.
20:33 cait hi #koha
20:11 * jcamins is happy to see authorities and analytics on the list.
20:10 sjeffery And 12 other things if I can get them approved!
20:10 jcamins Bwahahaha! :)
20:10 sjeffery not me!
20:10 jcamins And... analytics? :D :D
20:10 jcamins Did someone say authorities? :D
20:10 jcamins_away n/nick jcamins
19:52 magnus_afk have fun #koha!
19:52 huginn magnus_afk: The operation succeeded.
19:52 magnus_afk @later tell slef: see you tomorrow!
19:47 sjeffery lol yeah, I will give you that
19:46 rangi answering them is worse :)
19:46 sjeffery ps-writing rfp's is horrific
19:45 rangi you can always see what catalyst is working on, by checking hte repo
19:45 rangi http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug_7613_wr89060
19:45 sjeffery hmm, yeah, good point
19:45 rangi eg
19:44 rangi if they are using git, theres no reason not to have the repo public
19:44 sjeffery Actually, the hope is to do the development very rapidly (in a few week time period), so it will be more likely to sorta just show up
19:44 wizzyrea ^^
19:44 rangi helps others test/spot things .. which will make qa so much easier down the road
19:43 magnus_afk +1
19:43 rangi but yeah publish early publish often
19:43 wizzyrea just making sure ;)
19:43 wizzyrea cool
19:43 sjeffery I know, we have been chatting about the analytics for a long time
19:43 wizzyrea he's doing a lot of work in that area already
19:43 wizzyrea you should talk to jcamins.
19:42 sjeffery The first project is to change around authorities, add support for heirarchies, new interfaces, etc. Second project is completely rewriting series receiving and display. Third project is more support for analytics:)
19:42 wizzyrea like acquisitions.
19:42 wizzyrea sometimes you have to take one big step before you can do the improvements though.
19:42 wizzyrea incremental improvement.
19:42 wizzyrea yea, smaller is better.
19:42 libsysguy otherwise it could be doomed to the same fate as hourly
19:41 rangi ive rate limited the bots
19:41 rangi magnus_afk: all good
19:41 magnus_afk rangi: just say if i should turn kohagbsd off
19:41 rangi sjeffery: ideally they would develop in the open with a publicly viewable git repo
19:41 libsysguy maybe make it break up into smaller patches?
19:41 wizzyrea dare we ask what it is?
19:41 sjeffery Oh yeah, it is going to be sizable:)
19:41 magnus_afk slef: still around?
19:41 rangi *nod*
19:41 sekjal a bug report must be filed for the enhancement, and a wiki page should probably be added if it's sizeable
19:40 rangi as well as the release manager
19:40 rangi in order to get there, it needs to pass sign off, and qa
19:40 sekjal sjeffery: the specification as well as the code need to be open and available.
19:40 rangi You want the code pushed to the master branch of the official Koha git repository (git.koha-community.org)
19:39 sjeffery I am writing up a rfp for development work and want to be sure that the vendor is required to put the code into the main codebase. Not knowing the development termonology, what am I looking for? They need to pass QA?
19:36 rangi ahh even
19:36 rangi ajj
19:36 sekjal at Computers in Libraries
19:36 sekjal usability and user experience
19:35 rangi whats the session?
19:35 rangi thanks
19:35 sekjal will test other issues once I'm out of this preconf session
19:35 sekjal awesome
19:34 rangi fix pushed
19:32 sekjal this should be the only issue with it, according to my grep
19:32 * libsysguy would be a terrible tester
19:32 libsysguy *smh* don't know how i missed that
19:31 sekjal and days_between is already used in C4/Overdues.pm
19:31 rangi yep fixing now
19:31 sekjal yup
19:31 libsysguy and changed in the new namespac
19:31 libsysguy it looks like in C4::Calendar it was called daysBetween
19:30 sekjal s/that's/that'd/
19:30 rangi righto will do
19:30 sekjal rangi: that's be great
19:29 rangi sekjal: want me to fix and push the follow up to the branch?
19:23 rangi heh
19:22 ibeardslee just need to get some google ads on those pages then?
19:20 rangi yup
19:20 ibeardslee ahh the joy of bots eh?
19:13 rangi mystery solved
19:13 rangi and because there was a big flurry, it was big enough to max out connections for a little while
19:12 wizzyrea ewwww
19:12 rangi everytime the kohagbsd twitter accounts tweets a bunch of bots all hit whatever bug it was talking about
19:12 rangi ah ha
18:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Failed QA , Hourly Loans
18:47 wahanui it has been said that bug 5549 is libsysguy's white whale
18:47 wizzyrea bug 5549
18:46 wizzyrea paul_p: i'm decently confident about 7144
18:45 wizzyrea hi there rangi
18:36 sekjal morning, rangi
18:34 rangi Morning
18:00 libsysguy thats what im doing :p
17:59 * jcamins thought you meant there was going to be a lot of crying.
17:59 libsysguy hehe
17:59 slef magnus_afk: (seriously, let me know when you return...)
17:59 sekjal the place on old ships where whales were... rendered
17:58 libsysguy the blubber room?
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7735 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Removal of C4::Dates where it's not used anymore
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6025 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Script to recreate entries in the statistics table from the issues and oldissues table
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7600 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Have book cover image script return single-pixel gif data
17:57 * sekjal preps the blubber room for 5549
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7697 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Clean up borrower.textmessaging leftover code
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7166 enhancement, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Modify order notes when basket is closed
17:57 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7735: removal of C4::Dates when unused
17:57 jenkins_koha * matthias.meusburger: Bug 6025: Adds a script that re-create missing statistics from issues and old_issues tables
17:57 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7600: Return a single-pixel GIF when no local cover image exists
17:57 jenkins_koha * koha.sekjal: Bug 7697: Remove unused textmessaging parameter from OPAC main/user
17:57 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7166: Adds edit order notes when the basket is closed
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7235 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Adding invoice number and vendor name to the moredetail page
17:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7235 follow-up: removing some upper cases
17:57 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7235: Add order date and checks for permissions
17:57 jenkins_koha * srdjan: Bug 7235: Adding invoice number and vendor name to the moredetail page
17:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #666: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/666/
17:57 sekjal awesome
17:57 libsysguy understood…I'll continue my testing and post the results
17:57 sekjal may have sometime at the coffee break; otherwise, will need to wait until 4:30p Eastern
17:56 libsysguy gotcha
17:56 slef magnus_afk: 'ere, I want a word with you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfdGV7uznfM ;-)
17:56 sekjal libsysguy: haven't had a chance yet; preconf session has picked back up
17:56 libsysguy I couldn't reproduce with the ones I had
17:56 libsysguy im about to start testing with odd circ rules
17:56 libsysguy sekjal any luck with reproducing the hackfest bugs?
17:51 clrh ++
17:44 clrh mveron: thanks :)
17:43 * sekjal has his work cut out for him.... 15 new bugs in the QAQ
17:42 mveron Bon appetit #koha Marseille!
17:41 * jcamins is looking forward to sign off statistics for March.
17:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7144 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Floating collection
17:40 jcamins Heh. The only one I did not test on that list is bug 7144.
17:38 * magnuse does dinner
17:38 magnuse slef++
17:36 * slef does more kohacon admin
17:34 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:58 PM, July 10, 2009)
17:34 gmcharlt @quote random
17:31 magnuse 666, eh?
17:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #666 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7735: removal of C4::Dates when unused <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d266ccb81f7fa64d9a12ff20ca5b4e9388c3302c> / Bug 6025: Adds a script that re-create missing statistics from issues and old_issues... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d91bb113f04149c020c851a904de69619b6e9dd8> / Bug 7600: Return a single-pixel GIF when no local cover image exists <http://g
17:12 Oak me go now. see you guys on 22nd March. night.
17:12 sekjal and I want to throw some time at confirming/denying the issues that were found by the hackfesters
17:12 sekjal just a little work left to be done on how to get the database updates deployed, which is largely up to paul_p.
17:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Failed QA , Hourly Loans
17:11 sekjal from my analysis of the code, we're in very good shape on bug 5549
17:11 jcamins Oh, there's an IRC meeting tomorrow.
17:11 Oak oh good.
17:11 sekjal libsysguy: finally figured out how to jump to the end of the git diff output
17:11 jcamins Oak: I did, yes. It was in the topic.
17:09 gaetan_B bye !
17:08 Oak i hope i'm the only one who forgot.
17:08 Oak jcamins, did you wish cait on her birthday?
17:07 jcamins Morning, rangi.
17:05 cait don't worry about it
17:05 cait that's ok :)
17:03 Oak but i don't think i'll forget next time.
17:02 Oak had a paper on 1st march, and another one on 3rd march. but no way to remind me...
17:01 Oak cait :-(
17:01 Oak crap, i was busy in exams and i missed your birthday...
17:00 cait I confused dates :P
17:00 cait the calendar is right
17:00 cait it's me
17:00 cait oh
16:59 Oak :)
16:59 * cait goes to correct her calendar
16:59 cait oh
16:59 cait perhaps I messed up my calendar then
16:59 jcamins cait: I already asked. Tomorrow is.
16:59 cait hmm
16:59 Oak nope
16:59 Oak back home?
16:59 cait Oak, could it be that today is a special day?
16:59 cait hello Oak
16:59 Oak kia ora #koha
16:59 Oak hello cait
16:58 oleonard Bye #koha
16:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Failed QA , Hourly Loans
16:38 wahanui bug is always bad news, particularly if you haven't filed it yet.
16:38 wizzyrea what bug
16:38 wahanui bug 5549 is your white whale
16:38 libsysguy bug 5549
16:38 libsysguy comment 49
16:37 wizzyrea is*
16:37 wizzyrea libsysguy, which iw the "latest fail qa"
16:37 libsysguy just keep trucking :p
16:36 sekjal we're almost there!
16:36 sekjal np, libsysguy
16:36 libsysguy thanks sekjal
16:36 libsysguy ok cool
16:36 sekjal libsysguy: it doesn't matter the flag right now, since it's going through so much active testing
16:36 * libsysguy is still a little green
16:36 libsysguy ok I'll make a note, should I reflag it as signed off or leave it failed
16:35 sekjal let's get all this in place first, then work on enhancing it
16:35 wizzyrea scope_creep--
16:35 sekjal as for "lacking", well, that sounds like followup stuff
16:35 sekjal if you can't reproduce the error, note it on the bug report. I'll try to get it, as well. it may be that if they're using the sandbox, they don't have all the necessary DB updates
16:34 libsysguy what are your thoughts
16:34 libsysguy sekjal im a little confused about what to do with the latest Failed QA from hackfest…I can't reproduce the error, and the "lacking" section i think should wait
16:33 libsysguy yeah I think he removed some of the patches I tried merging in
16:33 libsysguy heh
16:32 sekjal that's what's taking the time
16:32 sekjal libsysguy: I've done a diff between the version of 5549 from yesterday, and rangi's rebase (both rebased on master).... scanning through that now. since it fixes the .po issue, there is A LOT of mindless scrolling to do
16:28 * oleonard dares you
16:28 jcamins oleonard: if I come across it again, I'll report it.
16:22 oleonard jcamins, The only example I see is a template we don't use, opac-userdetails
16:21 jcamins cait: there was one page that I couldn't find a way to address directly, so I worked around it, and thought "gee, we should have ids or classes."
16:21 cait ah... I should scroll
16:20 cait I mean on other high hiearchy tags, but not on body perhaps
16:20 cait jcamins: we have id's on many pages in opac, not on the body tag i think
16:17 jcamins I'll report a bug when I remember which page I was annoyed about not having any way to identify.
16:16 jcamins oleonard: we do have ids? Good! I think we may have missed one or two, on the cart or the like.
16:15 oleonard The idea of the classes in the staff client is to be able to give a common style to "modules"
16:15 oleonard Well, unique ids
16:15 oleonard jcamins, I think we do
16:15 jcamins cait: we should have classes on the body tags in the OPAC, too... we don't yet, do we?
16:11 libsysguy im tired of dealing with it and not being able to run the latest code in prod :p
16:11 libsysguy I want this in lol
16:11 libsysguy no worries
16:11 * oleonard will submit a signoff for Bug 7760 as soon as Bugzilla wakes up
16:11 sekjal brb
16:10 sekjal thanks, libsysguy
16:10 libsysguy im looking at the issues he saw
16:10 libsysguy sekjal im wondering if that is because he's running a sandbox
16:10 sekjal but I want to be sure all the issues I found are now addressed, and we're down to just fixing a few last things
16:10 reiveune bye
16:10 sekjal I did see it fail QA from Hackfest Testing
16:10 sekjal still working on bug 5549, will hopefully have feedback soon
16:10 cait :)
16:10 cait bye sekjal
16:09 sekjal okay, lunch time. Room is insecure, so I'll vanish for a bit while I go eat
16:08 jcamins sturmtruppen: yup.
16:08 sturmtruppen i have to make a script in perl? oh my gosh...
16:05 sturmtruppen jcamins: ok, thanks, i will try...
16:03 jcamins sturmtruppen: ah, a couple of people have written scripts, including, I think, druthb in her koha-migration-toolbox repo, but documentation is a bit scarce, and I don't have any details.
16:02 sturmtruppen jcamins: i know that, i would know i someone has already done that or where i can found the scheme for a right filling...
16:01 jcamins sturmtruppen: you can write your own script, but there is no feature to do that in Koha.
16:01 wizzyrea thanks rangi
16:01 rangi going back to sleep now
16:01 rangi just eating up all available connections
16:00 sturmtruppen jcamins: i think it is possible, i have only to figure out how...
16:00 rangi 184.169.243.56 - - [20/Mar/2012:14:30:14 +0000] "HEAD /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7300 HTTP/1.1" 200 295 "-" "UnwindFetchor/1.0 (+http://www.gnip.com/)"
16:00 rangi 89.151.116.53 - - [20/Mar/2012:14:30:13 +0000] "GET /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7300 HTTP/1.1" 200 35416 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; TweetmemeBot/2.11; +http://tweetmeme.com/)"
16:00 rangi fyi it was some bots a tweetmemebot, and a couple of others
16:00 mbalmer 17:00. enough is enough ;)
15:59 jcamins sturmtruppen: ah, there is no functionality for that.
15:59 libsysguy bug 5339 is also looking for a second sign off :)
15:59 sturmtruppen *books
15:58 sturmtruppen by a script, without click "save" every book
15:58 jcamins sturmtruppen: what do you mean, import automatically?
15:58 cait but it would be cool if it could go in fast
15:58 cait really easy to do
15:58 sturmtruppen jcamins: import in the database of koha
15:58 libsysguy cait++
15:57 magnuse cait++
15:57 cait and I am going to tackle the authority module next
15:57 wizzyrea yes, I would like to make the administration pages red, the circ pages a soothing blue...
15:57 sturmtruppen import in the database of koha
15:57 sekjal further incentive: template-based patches are easy to QA once signed off
15:56 cait so I need sign-offers!
15:56 cait ok
15:56 jcamins sturmtruppen: what do you mean, import in Koha automatically?
15:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton
15:55 libsysguy yeah bug 7760 would be crucial
15:55 cait to add a unique id and a class for the module to every page
15:55 cait we have a bug going
15:55 reiveune mbalmer: ping
15:55 huginn 04Bug 7760: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton
15:55 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7760
15:55 melia good morning
15:55 sekjal cait: I've had librarians complain about how stark and bright the staff client is with it's default CSS
15:55 paul_p hi melia !
15:55 cait oh
15:55 cait first steps... 7760
15:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq
15:55 libsysguy btw bug 5339 is looking good
15:55 cait lol
15:54 * libsysguy likes the shiny things
15:54 sturmtruppen me me too!
15:54 libsysguy me me cait
15:54 paul_p cait me me !!! some chocolate if you submit one before the end of the week !
15:54 cait who wants a colorful shiny staff interface?
15:53 magnuse nice to meet you, paul_p :-)
15:53 cait ok
15:53 paul_p ok, i'm paul_p ;-)
15:53 magnuse would maybe be ~5 people
15:53 magnuse i have a small hope of doing a "hacking koha" workshop before the summer, where everyone gets to do a new framework for normarc as an exercise - but that might not happen...
15:52 wizzyrea 20 might be a stretch.
15:52 sturmtruppen how can i import in koha automatically?
15:52 wizzyrea so 11
15:52 sturmtruppen i have all the UNIMARC data in a txt file
15:51 magnuse furst new committer in 2012 was number 168
15:51 sturmtruppen a little question...
15:49 jcamins paul_p_: then maybe Shari will be able to be a 1xx committer. :)
15:49 paul_p_ gaetan_B++ (also because it's a huge patch)
15:49 wizzyrea we've put on... how many already this year?
15:49 paul_p_ jcamins I don't think so. 22 new commiters is really big !
15:49 jcamins paul_p_: do you think we'll have reached 200 before KohaCon?
15:48 jcamins gaetan_B: congratulations!
15:48 gaetan_B :-)
15:47 magnuse woohoo for gaetan_B!
15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7731 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Library should be used instead of branch and site
15:42 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: welcome gaetan, you're 179th !
15:42 jenkins_koha * gaetan.boisson: Bug 7731 - Library should be used instead of branch and site
15:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #665: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/665/
15:37 chris_n [off] mtj: that is at least plausible
15:37 jcamins [off] I think they (probably correctly) assume that most people can't be bothered to check.
15:33 mtj jcamins: i guess liblime assume (correctly?) that most people see the LLK github repo, and assume that its LLEK too :/
15:24 cait [off] good queston
15:24 aalhaija many thanks
15:23 jcamins [off] mtj: I should ask.
15:23 aalhaija many thanks
15:23 alex_a dpavlin: http://search.cpan.org/~miyagawa/Plack-0.9986/lib/Plack/App/CGIBin.pm
15:22 mtj [off] chris_n: i sometimes wonder if those 13 waldo colleges are even aware, after 5 years, there is still *no* available LLEK code
15:22 wizzyrea specifically http://koha-community.org/faq/zebra-indexing-wont-work-fix-it-aka-search-stuff-up-help/
15:21 jcamins ^^ you might want to read that.
15:21 wahanui it has been said that search faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
15:21 jcamins search faq?
15:21 aalhaija koha as web is working but no data retrive when we try to search for any title
15:20 aalhaija i am trying from 3 days to resotre the database was on old server to the new server
15:20 aalhaija i new with koha administration and new in linux
15:19 wizzyrea ah then it's moot
15:19 jcamins wizzyrea: it hasn't made it into the package install yet, I think.
15:19 wizzyrea but that could be wrong.
15:19 wizzyrea so he could do koha-run-backups then koha-restore
15:19 wizzyrea right - my understanding was that this data came from an old server, and was imported into a package install
15:18 jcamins wizzyrea: you can't use koha-restore with a raw database dump.
15:18 aalhaija no actully
15:17 jcamins aalhaija: did you use the packages on your old server, too?
15:17 jcamins Also, I don't recommend really using almiktabah as the name.
15:17 wizzyrea what about koha-restore
15:17 jcamins Then you need to restore from the dump into that database.
15:17 aalhaija very nice
15:16 wizzyrea package tools is <reply> package tools can be found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages
15:16 jcamins koha-create almiktabah
15:16 wizzyrea package tools can be found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages
15:15 * wizzyrea will add that
15:15 wizzyrea package tools?
15:15 jcamins This makes it very easy.
15:15 wizzyrea package commands?
15:15 wahanui package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze
15:15 wizzyrea packages?
15:15 wizzyrea then you should use the package tools.
15:15 aalhaija yes
15:15 jcamins aalhaija: how did you install Koha? Did you use packages?
15:14 aalhaija you means that we will import the records to the new database
15:14 wizzyrea then, you can drop the koha-test db once you feel comfortable that your new db is working as you expect
15:14 wizzyrea and you should be set.
15:14 wizzyrea then edit your koha-conf.xml to reflect the new name
15:13 wizzyrea import your backup into that new database
15:13 wizzyrea create a new database with your required name
15:13 wizzyrea like this
15:13 wizzyrea ^^
15:13 wahanui rumour has it back up koha is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Backing_up_Koha
15:13 wizzyrea back up koha?
15:13 wizzyrea is take a complete dump of the database
15:13 wizzyrea what you probably want to do
15:12 wizzyrea ok, here's the deal - the name is pretty much arbitrary. The user never sees it.
15:11 aalhaija yes exactly
15:11 wizzyrea and you want to change the name because it says koha-test or somesuch?
15:11 aalhaija yes
15:11 wizzyrea ok, so this is the database you are going to production with?
15:10 aalhaija yes i need all the records
15:10 aalhaija from old server we have
15:10 wizzyrea aalhaija: do you care about what's in the database you currently have?
15:09 jcamins aalhaija: where did the other database come from?
15:09 aalhaija new installation
15:09 aalhaija the empty database i mean that come with the installation
15:08 * wizzyrea wonders if there was a hand from above touching it
15:08 jcamins aalhaija: where did the empty database come from, then?
15:08 oleonard wizzyrea, working now though
15:08 aalhaija durring the installation
15:08 jcamins paul_p: okay. I was going to say you should pause jenkins if it's on the same server.
15:07 wizzyrea bugzilla is on a linode, it's rangi's
15:07 chris_n jcamins: being able to parse through bugs based on a reliable status might be nice
15:07 paul_p jcamins nope, BibLibre host jenkins, someone else host bugzilla
15:07 jcamins aalhaija: where did the non-empty database come from?
15:07 cait and there are some nice translation bugs waiting for a sign-off...
15:07 paul_p [off] dpavlin I think this one is also related to plack, and another example = https://github.com/liblime/LibLime-Koha/commit/229da30e3d1be09020fe2c4d8e9c514e149b94cf
15:06 jcamins wizzyrea was wondering how to make your job easier. :)
15:06 jcamins chris_n: I was just telling people it would be much easier for you to do your release maintaining if there weren't so many bugs with a "pushed" status. Don't you think that's true?
15:05 chris_n mtj: interesting
15:04 aalhaija i installed koha on debian with empty database and everything is working ,,but now i need to restore database hold hundred of records to the server and connect koha to it
15:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: welcome gaetan, you're 179th ! <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8aa3b05e3cf13afc6de1dc63414d9055cfbbbef> / Bug 7731 - Library should be used instead of branch and site <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d500929cfdc653b85325f42a96bc5acc90015515>
15:01 jcamins Is jenkins on the same server?
15:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #665 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:01 jcamins aalhaija: I think you need to explain *exactly* what you want to do.
15:01 aalhaija okay , what next this step?
15:00 jcamins aalhaija: don't create a new database with the same name. Use a different name.
15:00 aalhaija do i need to do anything after create new database with the same name ?
15:00 wizzyrea okies
14:59 gaetan_B wizzyrea: i'll ask our librarians here, i brought this up after receiving a complaint from one library, and i was not really thinking about the otther side of the problem. If my complaint is isolated, i'd say let's jsut standardize it to "start with" search otherwise let's add an option. But i would be for standardizing.
14:58 jcamins aalhaija: either create a new database, or use the database with the name it currently has.
14:58 paul_p s/fixing/pushing/ ;-)
14:58 jcamins paul_p: that's because you're fixing too many bugs! :P
14:58 jcamins [off] I'm not sure I'd use LL's Plack code as a basis. I believe they have (or had) some stability problems that require restarting Apache every few days.[5C[5C
14:58 paul_p OK, this time bugzilla is completly down :((((
14:57 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7408 : Fixing a typo that was breaking the installer
14:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7086 follow-up: removed warn
14:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7086 follow-up: removed warn
14:57 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7086 : "suggested by" fixed for staff members
14:57 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7434: Display of issue number for serials in overdues
14:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #664: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/664/
14:57 aalhaija so what shall i do
14:57 libsysguy ^^
14:57 jcamins aalhaija: I'm not sure renaming the database is really a good idea.
14:56 aalhaija i have a demo database runing on the server for koha but i need to new database to publish as real ????
14:55 oleonard Ah, the exciting shiver in my spine when opening circulation.tt for editing...
14:55 wizzyrea there he is.
14:55 dpavlin paul_p: it seems that liblime opted to use our instead of my for plack, e.g. https://github.com/liblime/LibLime-Koha/commit/39f7fdb79654f3039443a769d979aeed214cac87
14:55 wahanui i heard first question was "What are you trying to do?"
14:55 wahanui the first question is "What are you trying to do?"
14:55 wizzyrea remember he's on the same server as bugzilla :/
14:55 aalhaija how can i change the Database name
14:55 jcamins aalhaija: what are you trying to do?
14:54 wizzyrea wahanui is sleeping.
14:54 cait omg
14:54 cait first question?
14:54 jcamins The first question?
14:54 aalhaija :-)
14:54 aalhaija ?
14:54 aalhaija Dears, i need to know how can i change the database name on koha using debian OS
14:53 jcamins :)
14:53 * wizzyrea is not made of wood
14:52 jcamins wizzyrea: as long as you don't weigh the same as a duck, you probably won't be burned at the stake.
14:51 wizzyrea i mean... i feel like I'm talking heresy here.
14:51 paul_p it's exactly what we face I think
14:51 paul_p dpavlin & hdl = http://modperlbook.org/html/6-2-Exposing-Apache-Registry-Secrets.html
14:51 wizzyrea and with the patron search, you want the most refined, exact search you can do
14:51 libsysguy darn conferences :p
14:51 wizzyrea maybe what you want, with the checkout search, is the fastest, dirtiest search you can do
14:51 libsysguy thanks sekjal!
14:50 wizzyrea maybe in this one case, consistency isn't what you want.
14:50 * wizzyrea considers
14:49 gaetan_B also the text above the search field says "Enter patron card number or partial name:"
14:49 wizzyrea yea, make it an optional thing and we'll be good. a "search contains" option would be handy. And fix the other search so it doesn't do that
14:48 sekjal libsysguy: working on 5549 currently; slowed by the conference workshop, but I'm on it, and will have a verdict by days end
14:48 wizzyrea hehe
14:48 gaetan_B in a way that doesn't suck ;)
14:48 gaetan_B but as you say
14:48 gaetan_B wizzyrea: i don't really have a definitive opinion on this. I brought this up because i received the opposite complaint regarding patron search. Since a problem exists in both ways of searching, we need to add some kind of option
14:48 sturmtruppen hi wizzyrea
14:48 wizzyrea hi sturmtruppen
14:47 sturmtruppen good spring #koha!
14:46 oleonard :D
14:45 wizzyrea (in a way that doesn't suck)
14:45 wizzyrea which we've always wanted.
14:45 wizzyrea "advanced search"
14:45 wizzyrea make it an optional-at-search-time thing
14:45 wizzyrea instead of changing the default behavior
14:45 wizzyrea you could add a checkbox to do a "contains" search
14:45 wizzyrea perhaps
14:44 wizzyrea the contains search that is currently in check-out causes complaints here - they don't want the noise
14:43 mveron cait: soory, somebody at the door... back in 5 min
14:43 gaetan_B but i agree making it consistent is a bigger priority
14:43 cait mveron: should we take this into a pm?
14:43 gaetan_B hence my suggestion ;)
14:42 cait can't attach my patch
14:42 gaetan_B wizzyrea: but when looking for someone whose cardnumber we don't have, i assume we might not have accurate information about how the patron has been entered in the database since we don't have his/her card
14:42 wizzyrea but changing it to conatins
14:42 cait and bugzilla is sleepy
14:42 wizzyrea i agree we should have consistent search behavior
14:42 paul_p grrr... github makes my FF crash
14:42 oleonard gaetan_B Shouldn't we have consistent search behavior though?
14:42 paul_p dpavlin https://github.com/liblime/LibLime-Koha
14:41 wizzyrea you'd be amazed at what people find to complain about
14:41 paul_p dpavlin nope, ptfs-europe is NOT ptfs
14:41 dpavlin paul_p: is https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha correct one as opposed to https://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PTFS which is 2 years old?
14:41 gaetan_B wizzyrea: i would think we don't need that much precision in check out, since we are scanning patrons barcodes usually, which are unique
14:41 huginn oleonard: I've exhausted my database of quotes
14:41 oleonard huginn, don't hold your breath
14:40 * libsysguy will be stalking sekjal for bug 5549
14:40 libsysguy gotcha
14:39 * dpavlin tries to hang myself with sub {} within script which breaks pluck scoping....
14:39 wizzyrea and wahanui is very slow
14:39 oleonard sekjal is in a meeting I think libsysguy, at CIL
14:38 wahanui sekjal was last seen on #koha 42 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: mbalmer: the way the sysprefs got added for 7408 was... problematic [Tue Mar 20 13:56:26 2012]
14:38 wahanui wizzyrea: sorry...
14:38 wizzyrea so maybe there's something amok with the linode
14:38 wizzyrea he's on the same server I think
14:38 libsysguy seen sekjal
14:38 wizzyrea wahanui just bounced
14:38 wizzyrea but, you see
14:38 cait did you break it?
14:38 cait yes it's slow
14:38 wizzyrea yea, I am now
14:37 oleonard Anyone else having problems with Bugzilla?
14:37 wizzyrea search *has* to be accurate.
14:37 wizzyrea noise is a real issue when you have lots and lots of patrons
14:37 wizzyrea I think we need to fix the real problem
14:37 wizzyrea is a good idea
14:37 wizzyrea I don't think making it a contains
14:36 wizzyrea but it doesn't work for finding the last part of a separated surname
14:36 wizzyrea our librarians don't like the way it works on the "check out" search
14:35 wizzyrea sec checking 3.6.0
14:33 gaetan_B :-/
14:33 wizzyrea that would be not-good
14:33 wizzyrea I hope no one broke 3 part name searching.
14:33 gaetan_B yes i just updated
14:33 * wizzyrea has not observed this
14:32 wizzyrea and you are using master?
14:32 gaetan_B (in patrons not in circulation)
14:32 gaetan_B in my instance i have "Benjamin LA JOIE" a search for "joie" doesn't bring any result
14:32 wizzyrea is first name "Henry James" surname "acevedo III"
14:32 wizzyrea for example, the test patron I make
14:31 gaetan_B but how do they manage with patrons with long/composed names ?
14:31 wizzyrea i'm surprised that you find the villepin doesn't work - 2 and 3 part searching has been working
14:31 gaetan_B hmmm
14:31 wizzyrea i.e. my librarians would scream
14:31 wizzyrea gaetan_B: I would consider what you propose to be a step in the wrong direction.
14:31 gaetan_B i think it should be consistent and work in the same way in both
14:30 gaetan_B wizzyrea: it works (like i expect it) in circulation.pl, but not in member.pl
14:30 wizzyrea they are different
14:30 wizzyrea are you talking about the search from Patrons or the patron search from the "check out" box
14:29 mtj http://www.educause.edu/sites/default/files/library/presentations/NC11/PS06/KohaPoster.pdf
14:29 gaetan_B at the moment a search for "Villepin" wouldn't bring any result
14:29 wizzyrea which search are you looking at?
14:29 gaetan_B wizzyrea: my take on it is that we should always use a "contain" search, which would generate some noise but make it easy to find patrons with names like "De Villepin"
14:27 mveron Of course!
14:27 cait I would like to finish this table
14:27 cait mveron: give me 10 mins?
14:26 gaetan_B i was discussing patron search with kf just now
14:26 gaetan_B wizzyrea: hello :)
14:02 wizzyrea still not terrible.
14:02 * mveron Waves to mbalmer
14:01 mtj this is kinda cute -> http://www.educause.edu/NC11/Program/PS06
14:01 oleonard wizzyrea, Ubuntu Firefox: http://www.screencast.com/t/MLqK5XKn
14:01 clrh mbalmer: you talk me about a poc, did you share it somewhere?
13:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , Expire holds that have been waiting too long
13:58 * paul_p on bug 7408 follow-up now
13:56 sekjal mbalmer: the way the sysprefs got added for 7408 was... problematic
13:56 wizzyrea "hey idiot, this is the one I was complaining about"
13:55 wizzyrea I actually like it better in firefox - it keeps your eye on the ball
13:55 maximep looks good in chrome... really incredibly ugly in ff
13:55 wizzyrea maximep https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/bobleah/entry/html5_example_form_validation_and_form_elements141?lang=en
13:55 oleonard Anyway, I think the answer is that since validator complaints are the only downside I should proceed until I find otherwise
13:54 wizzyrea (plus, mac)
13:54 wizzyrea that was the latest one that auto-update gave me
13:54 oleonard wizzyrea: And my Firefox looks different than yours too
13:52 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/4jIwgzWRfr1
13:52 wizzyrea first chrome, 2nd firefox
13:51 oleonard maximep, I assume not, but I don't know
13:51 wizzyrea I didn't think they were particularly ugly.
13:51 maximep they are so ugly by default :/
13:50 maximep is it possible yet to style html5 validations to look the same in all browsers ?
13:50 * oleonard ignores all questions about converting the templates to html5
13:50 wizzyrea gotya
13:50 oleonard valid html5 yes, just not valid according to our doctype
13:49 wizzyrea it's pretty in firefox too
13:49 wizzyrea but it's valid html5, right?
13:48 oleonard I think validator complaints are really the only downside that I know of at this stage
13:48 * wizzyrea taps her toe while firefox updates
13:48 oleonard (and newer browsers with JS enabled)
13:48 oleonard Since I'm proposing to add some consistent JS validation to the staff client older browsers would be covered by that
13:48 * wizzyrea tries it in firefox
13:47 wizzyrea I like that.
13:47 oleonard Older browsers won't enforce it, but they won't break either
13:47 oleonard http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml5_input_required
13:47 wizzyrea (incompatibility with older browsers, for 1, I'm sure)
13:47 wizzyrea downsides?
13:46 wizzyrea ooo
13:46 oleonard For modern browsers it gives browser-enforced validation of required fields (javascript-independent)
13:45 wizzyrea what does it give us?
13:45 oleonard We've already added the nonstandard "autocomplete" attribute in some places
13:44 oleonard While I'm dealing with markup related to required fields, is it time to add the HTML5 "required" attribute?
13:44 mbalmer sekjal, at least in .ch we usually terminate sql statements with a ';'… ;P
13:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , Expire holds that have been waiting too long
13:44 sekjal mbalmer: that was bug 7408
13:43 wahanui git blame is handy, but it's just one tool in our debugging arsenal
13:43 wizzyrea git blame?
13:43 mbalmer line 352..
13:43 mbalmer who added 'ExpireReservesMaxPickUpDelayCharge' to sysprefs.sql??
13:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Standardize on one javascript library for client-side form validation
13:42 oleonard I have a question about Bug 6209, having just begun some work on it
13:41 oleonard Ready to bring to KohaCon sekjal :)
13:39 wizzyrea ooh IPA
13:39 sekjal I think those need to condition longer... probably won't be ready until May/June
13:38 sekjal next batch is going to be an IPA
13:38 wizzyrea ^.^
13:37 sekjal that'd be awesome!
13:37 wizzyrea guess we'll have to figure a way to get the girl to the brew then.
13:37 wizzyrea hehe
13:37 sekjal wizzyrea: I would totally mail you some if it wasn't illegal
13:36 * wizzyrea conspires a way to try some of sekjal's beer
13:35 sekjal yeah, I'm encouraged. I know what I can do to improve things, so my next run should begin shortly
13:35 JesseM not too bad for a first run at it
13:34 sekjal easy drinkin'
13:34 sekjal turned out pretty good.... a little sweet, light on the carbonation
13:34 JesseM very nice
13:34 sekjal had some last weekend
13:34 sekjal bottled, conditioned, and served!
13:34 JesseM Hey sekjal hows the brew coming?
13:33 sekjal morning, JesseM
13:33 JesseM Morning #koha
13:33 magnuse alaquerre++
13:31 magnuse wizzyrea: yup :-(
13:29 alaquerre All right, again thanks for your input and have a good one.
13:29 sekjal alaquerre: great :)
13:29 alaquerre sekjal: Don't worry :-), that's my plan. I would like to have the smallest delta we can have against the community.
13:29 wizzyrea magnuse: that looks interesting - proprietary though :(
13:26 sekjal alaquerre: any reworking you do, I'd recommend keeping the whole module in mind, and sharing any development plans publicly with the rest of Koha
13:26 alaquerre sekjal : Well that's a problem we live with right now, so for sure we will be only looking forward. The people really hate this section and is asking for lot's of change. They would like to have "real" user account management tools. Ok, I'll look here on what we can do and share it to the community after that. Thanks.
13:23 sekjal alaquerre: you'd have a "cut point" in your data... before it doesn't have itemnumber, after it does... this would need to be factored into the reports you run and the expectations your librarians have
13:22 alaquerre :-) okay - Do you see any thing wrong adding this ? ( Any side effect we need to think of ? )
13:21 oleonard sekjal, That's a generous way to put it ;)
13:20 sekjal alaquerre: probably no reason, no... the whole Accounts area of Koha has grown very organically
13:19 alaquerre Good morning #Koha. Is there any reason why when we do writeoff, the table accountlines dont save the itemnumber ? Because of that, it's really hard to read a user account because you dont really know where the writeoff is tie to.
13:13 edveal Thanks oleonard, I will not be spending a great deal of time on this. Just wanted confirmation that I was right.
13:10 oleonard It's possible if clumsy.
13:09 oleonard Pending that you'd have to do a brute-force search for div.alert > span [starts with="your card..."] (that's just a diagram, not real syntax)
13:09 edveal That was what I thought.
13:08 oleonard edveal, I don't see an easy way to do that. It would be a nice enhancement to add unique IDs to each error message generated by the template
13:08 * jcamins_away stops channelling Monty Python, and gets ready to go.
13:08 jcamins_away I want to buy some cheese!
13:07 edveal oleonard OPAC?
13:07 oleonard edveal, OPAC or intranet?
13:05 hdl slef: just asked on #plack for a site using plack
13:05 edveal Anyone know how to go about changing the text in the class "dialog alert" for when a patrons card is about to expire?
13:04 sekjal workshop is starting...
13:02 slef hdl: you like estate agents?
12:49 hdl www.foxtons.co.uk
12:48 hdl https://docs.google.com/a/biblibre.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AicRpO68EOB7dEt2MGhmeHZYZ05ISTRVc2pIa25IQ1E#gid=0
12:43 * sekjal is in his all-day Usability workshop, waiting for it to all begin
12:43 sekjal hi, cait!
12:42 * cait waves :)
12:40 sekjal the more librarians, the better. they may find hidden strangeness I wouldn't otherwise find
12:40 sekjal paul_p: great!
12:40 paul_p hi sekjal. 3 librarians are playing with it this afternoon at the hackfest (on sandbox 6)
12:40 sekjal I think rangi and libsysguy addressed everything I had found problematic
12:39 sekjal paul_p: I'm going to finish testing the improvements to Hourly Loans today
12:38 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
12:38 magnuse @later tell wizzyrea http://librarygame.co.uk/
12:38 asaurat indeed :D
12:38 magnuse asaurat: sounds like lovely way to go :-)
12:36 asaurat death by cheese
12:33 mbalmer a bit of docs on the PostgreSQL stuff Stephan and I worked on this morning: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PostgreSQL
12:32 sekjal morning, #koha
12:19 Oak me go now
12:18 Oak hello cait :)
12:18 Oak kia ora #koha
12:18 mtj vfernandes: why not use ubuntu/debian, and not opensuse... problem solved?
12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7719 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Change state of controls based on whether boxes are checked
12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets
12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7696 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT
12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7526 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , longoverdue.pl leaves items marked as lost as still checked out to patron
12:13 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7719 - Change state of controls based on whether boxes are checked
12:13 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 6440: Implement OAI-PMH Sets
12:13 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7696 - NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT
12:13 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7526 - longoverdue.pl leaves items marked as lost as still checked out to patron
12:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #663: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/663/
11:48 magnuse you bet!
11:48 oleonard Time to be jealous, everyone!
11:48 magnuse and probably french cheese at that? :-)
11:48 magnuse woot!
11:48 oleonard Cheese for lunch!
11:32 vfernandes i'm driving crazy :/
11:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #663 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
11:28 vfernandes opac-MARCDetail.pl charset: us-ascii
11:28 vfernandes opac-detail.pl charset: utf8
11:28 vfernandes more information
11:25 vfernandes i don't know what to do more :/
11:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7719 - Change state of controls based on whether boxes are checked <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74753b4b69eba4a23a8e37f48bf402482136a367> / Bug 6440: Implement OAI-PMH Sets <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b0d4e04e09f37e8dcbaba71abd47980bfef7059> / Bug 7696 - NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdif
11:16 cait jcamins++
11:16 cait yay!
11:15 vfernandes could be tmpl or encodings? sometimes SVN changes the encoding
11:14 jcamins_away :D No more e-mails from jenkins!
11:14 vfernandes the database is fine because it's working in another enviromment
11:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7724 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Tests requiring Zebra should be skipped if Zebra isn't set up
11:13 jenkins_koha jcamins: Bug 7724: Skip Linker test if Zebra isn't set up
11:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #662: FIXED in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/662/
11:13 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
11:13 francharb 0/ #koha
11:13 mbalmer amazaing. PostgreSQL layer proof of concept works, including unit tests
11:12 jcamins_away 57 unread messages on the Koha lists.
11:09 vfernandes LANG=pt_PT.UTF-8
11:06 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Encoding_and_Character_Sets_in_Koha
11:04 cait what is your Locale?
11:04 vfernandes I have another installation of Koha on Ubuntu Server where the database is the same but the encoding problem doesn't exist
11:02 mtj vfernandes: load your database into a debian koha... does your encoding problem still exist?
11:01 vfernandes http://koha.ulusiada.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=84701
10:59 vfernandes mtj i'm using opensuse
10:58 cait utf8 is correct
10:58 vfernandes ok... i've changed the mysql configuration to a large database but the encoding stills utf8... can this change cause the encoding problem?
10:58 mtj vfernandes: ... or use debian?
10:55 cait perhaps you might want to go and look there
10:55 cait there are some hints about encoding on the wiki
10:55 cait I am not sure
10:54 vfernandes cait: the same database in another Koha installation as no encoding problems
10:54 cait we might be away for lunch or something, but I am sure someone will be here
10:54 mveron Thanks. Till later...
10:54 cait mveron: just jump in here
10:53 cait of course
10:53 vfernandes the data on the tables are correct
10:53 mveron Cait: Can we figure it out in the afternoon? - Should run away for a meeting..
10:53 vfernandes the encoding of mysql is utf8
10:52 cait vfernandes: pehaps it#s aproblem with your mysql configuration?
10:52 vfernandes anyone had already this problem?
10:52 cait we could try to figure it out together?
10:52 vfernandes i'm having also problems on cataloguing pages
10:52 cait I think oyu might have skipped a step or 2
10:51 cait ok
10:51 mveron yes
10:51 cait mveron: still around?
10:51 vfernandes on the opac-MARCDetail
10:51 cait the sign-off line is missing
10:51 cait ah no
10:51 vfernandes today I was doing another installation of Koha to another client and I having some encoding problems
10:51 cait it looks good to me
10:51 cait mveron++ :)
10:49 mveron Hope that it is OK like this?
10:49 mveron Thanks, magnuse. I followed the steps in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration.
10:49 vfernandes hi guys
10:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #662 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 12 j ago)
10:28 magnuse mveron: see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
10:28 magnuse thanks paul_p!
10:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7696 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT
10:25 paul_p magnuse pushing bug 7696 now ;-)
10:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7724: Skip Linker test if Zebra isn't set up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f7e340f82f8e430389683153ddf300c9a64c2a0>
10:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7737 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , Use of date filters on bookseller pages
10:19 mveron sorry, mistaked, bug 7737, should put my glasses...
10:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7733 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , HidePatronName not working on moredetail
10:18 mveron I'm learning git... Checked out Bug 7733, applied, tested, dates are displayed correctly. Next step?
10:17 mveron dunno?
10:16 paul_p dunno about moules marinières ;-)
10:16 paul_p bonjour mveron. mbalmer arrived here, with some swiss chocolates :D
10:16 * mveron Hopes that mbalmer had a good flight an tht he got some Moules mrainières yesterday
10:16 magnuse hiya mveron
10:15 mveron Bonjour #koha
10:02 hdl https://github.com/eiro/p5-plack-devel-debug-devel-size/blob/master/lib/Plack/Middleware/Debug/Devel/Size.pm
09:56 cait good night :)
09:56 * rangi goes to sleep
09:50 rangi http://kohakenya.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/r-i-p-the-kardex/
09:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7724 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Tests requiring Zebra should be skipped if Zebra isn't set up
09:27 magnuse bug 7724
09:26 paul_p starting with 7724, that should fix jenkns, hopefully
09:26 cait paul_p: :)
09:26 * paul_p now head to pushing patches...
09:25 mbalmer http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PostgreSQL
09:21 cait :)
09:20 oleonard I'm not used to talking out loud about Koha more than I type about Koha here
08:42 hdl SCRIPT_URI=https://catalogue.univ-lyon3.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl PERL5LIB=/home/kohaadmin/src KOHA_CONF=/home/kohaadmin/etc/koha-conf.xml starman -M FindBin --workers 6 --port 5000 --pid /home/kohaadmin/var/run/starman.pid /home/kohaadmin/prod.psgi 2>/home/kohaadmin/var/log/starman.err >/home/kohaadmin/var/log/starman.log &
08:41 hdl SCRIPT_URI=https://catalogue.univ-lyon3.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl PERL5LIB=/home/kohaadmin/src KOHA_CONF=/home/kohaadmin/etc/koha-conf.xml starman --workers 6 --port 5000 --pid /home/kohaadmin/var/run/starman.pid /home/kohaadmin/prod.psgi 2>/home/kohaadmin/var/log/starman.err >/home/kohaadmin/var/log/starman.log &
08:41 hdl #!/bin/bash
08:40 mbalmer we are in the small box on the left side
08:40 mbalmer clrh, we started.
08:38 rangi pm responsibility?
08:38 clrh mbalmer: if you talk about pm responsability and database layer, please ping me, I am interested to participate
08:37 clrh just for information if you need it: https://github.com/clrh/koha_community
08:32 rangi there was an error in syspref.sql that breaks new installs
08:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , Expire holds that have been waiting too long
08:32 rangi if you have a sec today, bug 7408
08:31 rangi heya paul_p
08:17 clrh hello rangi
08:16 rangi hi Guillaume and clrh
08:14 wahanui hi, clrh
08:14 clrh hello
08:11 asaurat hi !
08:10 cait hi magnuse and rangi :)
08:10 matts hi !
08:09 rangi hi matts asaurat and cait
08:09 * magnuse waves to cait and asaurat
08:08 magnuse hiya Joubu
08:08 rangi hi Joubu
08:07 Joubu hello
08:04 magnuse bucklame - the city that never sleeps...
08:04 eythian_bucklame not terribly late, 9pm. Just sitting playing games on my laptop.
08:04 * oleonard isn't used to calculating your time from France :)
08:04 rangi hi oleonard and eythian_bucklame
08:04 oleonard Late hour for you eythian_bucklame ?
08:03 eythian_bucklame hi
08:03 magnuse hiya eythian_bucklame and oleonard
07:58 mbalmer bonjour
07:56 magnuse i better bring more next year...
07:54 magnuse awww...
07:53 alex_a there's no more magnuse's chocolate at biblibre this morning
07:52 magnuse bonjour alex_a
07:52 alex_a bonjour #koha
07:51 rangi heh
07:51 magnuse ooh, nice temperature for for sitting in a room full of glowing computers
07:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 7.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 20, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
07:50 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:50 magnuse ah france is waking up
07:50 magnuse yup
07:49 rangi complementary
07:49 rangi :)
07:49 magnuse guess we had two different angles then :-)
07:49 magnuse ah, ok, mine was there's plenty of support companies to choose from if ever you need one
07:48 rangi that was the gist of mine
07:48 rangi that its typical of companies that have stopped innovating to use FUD
07:47 magnuse bet it's the same comment, more or less :-)
07:47 rangi :)
07:47 magnuse me too
07:47 rangi i actually left a comment on there its still waiting moderation :)
07:45 magnuse yay! http://emillymcleay.com/2011/10/27/thats-brave/
07:44 kmkale got to run. BBL
07:44 magnuse namaskar kmkale
07:44 kmkale Namaste magnuse :)
07:39 magnuse kia ora #koha
07:36 kmkale Thanks rangi
07:35 wahanui salut, reiveune
07:35 reiveune hello
07:35 rangi there is a syspref for it
07:35 rangi tis much faster, and you dont have those issues anymore :)
07:35 rangi you can use memcached for sessions
07:35 rangi also
07:34 rangi 16 1 * * * $KOHA_CRON_PATH/cleanup_database.pl --sessions --zebraqueue 10
07:34 rangi yep
07:33 kmkale the database cleanup one?
07:32 rangi there is a cron job you might like to set up on th enew hardware
07:32 kmkale thanks rangi :)
07:32 rangi yep thats safe to do
07:32 kmkale This table has grown huge
07:31 kmkale I am migrating a large Koha installation to newer hardware. Is it safe to truncate the sessions table before taking the backup?
07:11 cait :)
07:11 cait yeah, but warmer!
07:10 rangi heh its pretty yuck
07:08 cait can I come over?
07:04 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (7:00 PM NZDT on March 20, 2012). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
07:04 rangi @wunder nzwn
07:04 cait hm
07:04 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 4.0°C (7:30 AM CET on March 20, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Rising).
07:04 cait @wunder marseille
06:51 rangi no load on the server, but if i 403 it, they might notice and fix it :)
06:50 rangi then starting again
06:50 rangi downloading almost all of a file,
06:50 mtj heh s/ddos/dos/ :)
06:50 rangi its most likely just someones download tool being retarded
06:50 rangi and its the bugs/download server
06:49 rangi naw, you cant do a ddos with 1 ip :)
06:49 mtj someone ddos-ing the Koha git server?
06:49 rangi i think most likely badly configured software
06:49 mtj oh really ... ? :/
06:46 rangi just had to block another couple of ip from download
06:40 rangi hmm
05:26 rangi Hackfest going well hdl?
05:26 rangi Evening
05:16 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded.
05:16 hdl @later tell lds other reading :http://git.661346.n2.nabble.com/RFC-PATCH-0-5-gitweb-Proof-of-concept-of-PSGI-interface-td7340344.html
05:16 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded.
05:16 hdl @later tell lducos other reading :http://git.661346.n2.nabble.com/RFC-PATCH-0-5-gitweb-Proof-of-concept-of-PSGI-interface-td7340344.html
05:16 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded.
05:16 hdl @later tell dpavlin other reading :http://git.661346.n2.nabble.com/RFC-PATCH-0-5-gitweb-Proof-of-concept-of-PSGI-interface-td7340344.html
05:15 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded.
05:15 hdl @later tell lds some nice reading to go further into PSGI integration into Koha http://advent.plackperl.org/2009/12/day-8-adapting-web-frameworks-to-psgi.html
05:15 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded.
05:15 hdl @later tell lducos some nice reading to go further into PSGI integration into Koha http://advent.plackperl.org/2009/12/day-8-adapting-web-frameworks-to-psgi.html
05:15 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded.
05:15 hdl @later tell dpavlin some nice reading to go further into PSGI integration into Koha http://advent.plackperl.org/2009/12/day-8-adapting-web-frameworks-to-psgi.html
01:49 Judit fair enough
01:49 rangi so it doesnt know which help file to show
01:49 Judit i see
01:49 rangi http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl
01:48 rangi not
01:48 rangi ie you are at http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/
01:48 rangi its only when you dont have a page
01:48 Judit okay then
01:48 Judit so we have a bug for it
01:48 Judit thanks
01:48 Judit works now
01:48 Judit aha
01:48 rangi cant remember what it is
01:48 rangi there is a bug for it
01:48 rangi and it will now work
01:48 rangi click on somethign then go back
01:48 Judit main
01:47 rangi yeah its because that page doesnt have a proper name
01:47 rangi all pages or just the mainpage.pl
01:47 Judit same happens here: http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/
01:47 Judit Template process failed: file error - /home/koha/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/.tt: not found at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 126.
01:47 Judit the help pages on the staff client
01:46 Judit i have something weird here, and couldnt find it in bugzilla
01:46 Judit hi
01:30 Oak in any case... still, at least after an hour from now. electricity is about to go out here.
01:29 rangi hmm we need some sample items in the sample data
01:28 rangi its just a typo fix
01:26 Oak i mean i'll talk to cait first, she'll know if should do it or not. someone does it before me, no problem.
01:23 Oak I'll do it. But will do it after 5-6 hours. if someone does it before then... okay.
01:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Expire holds that have been waiting too long
01:23 rangi bug 7408
01:22 rangi who wants an easy signoff?
01:20 Oak yes.
01:20 jcamins So tomorrow.
01:19 Oak :) it's on 21st March
01:18 jcamins I heard a rumor that it's your birthday. Is that true?
01:16 Oak kia ora #koha
01:03 talljoy sweet
01:03 wahanui hourly loans are indeed on the horizon, that would help you. Patron records can be kept indefinitely (though probably you'd want to archive them periodically
01:03 rangi hourly loans
01:03 talljoy what's up?
01:03 rangi yo
01:01 talljoy yo
00:48 rangi all apart from the test
00:48 rangi done
00:48 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-catalyst.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/merged_5549
00:44 sekjal night, #koha
00:44 sekjal k
00:44 jcamins Go to sleep.
00:44 jcamins lol
00:44 sekjal (then I hope it's enjoyable)
00:44 sekjal (unless you're attending one)
00:44 sekjal (for the night, not necessarily the conference)
00:44 sekjal thanks, you too
00:44 jcamins And enjoy your conference.
00:44 jcamins Have a good night.
00:44 jcamins Yay!
00:43 sekjal okay, I'm done for the night. looking forward to wrapping up 5549, hopefully tomorrow
00:38 libsysguy bbl
00:38 libsysguy ok going to spend some time with the gf
00:37 libsysguy gotcha
00:37 jcamins I reported a bug about the missing release notes.
00:37 libsysguy the curse of the CS degree :p
00:37 rangi yeah im nearly done
00:37 libsysguy you've been trucking
00:36 sekjal libsysguy: you're doing awesome... I've been told I'm not the easiest person to communicate with sometimes
00:36 libsysguy so if you're already at that one
00:36 libsysguy gotcha
00:36 rangi and that one can fix that
00:36 rangi so i think ill not touch the release notes at all with 5549
00:36 rangi jcamins has luckily opened a bug for that already
00:36 rangi i think outside the scope of 5549
00:36 * libsysguy will understand sekjal one day :-/
00:35 libsysguy ohh i misunderstood
00:35 sekjal either all the release notes, or none of them
00:35 sekjal my interest is in making things be consistent
00:35 rangi yeah i think ill leave that patch out
00:35 sekjal rangi: that doesn't sound like a good thing
00:34 rangi sekjal: ... did you want all the release notes removed? because thats what this patch from libsysguy does
00:34 sekjal that was the plan
00:34 sekjal yes
00:34 sekjal eythian_bucklame: ah, yes, that...
00:34 eythian_bucklame sekjal: break circulation for a day so that librarians don't forget how to do it manually
00:34 jcamins sekjal: possibly. It works properly with NORMARC, so rather than messing with magnuse's domain, I set it to not UNIMARC.
00:33 sekjal eythian_bucklame: huh? which what and the who now?
00:33 eythian_bucklame haha. So does Liberty apparently.
00:33 jcamins eythian_bucklame: ooh, Voyager has that!
00:33 sekjal for 7702: shouldn't a MARC21 only test only work for MARC21, not just 'not UNIMARC'?
00:33 libsysguy im baaaacccckkk :) for a second
00:33 eythian_bucklame sekjal: so you're suggesting implementing a random "fall back to paper" mode, to keep people on their toes? :)
00:31 jcamins Fair enough.
00:31 sekjal jcamins: I think this will have to be the last. I'm feeling like I did right before I broke Circulation for day
00:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , No check for maximum number of allowed holds.
00:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7065 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , reserves table needs a primary key
00:30 jcamins You could offer your opinion on bug 7065 or bug 4045.
00:30 jcamins lol
00:30 eythian_bucklame "Add a default XXX item type" or something perhaps
00:29 jcamins eythian_bucklame: hmm.
00:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority search results should optionally be sorted by system order
00:29 jcamins Bug 7617 isn't too difficult either.
00:29 eythian_bucklame jcamins: apparently he wants something steamy
00:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7702 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Test for C4::Heading::MARC21 should only run under MARC21
00:29 jcamins Bug 7702.
00:29 jcamins sekjal: I'll find a nice easy one for you.
00:28 * sekjal is losing steam
00:24 jcamins That was a nice commit message.
00:24 jcamins I forgot I used the word "agitas" in a commit message.
00:24 jcamins Hehe.
00:19 rangi all flu jabbed, back into it
00:18 rangi so that its much easier to debug/check
00:18 rangi commit messages too
00:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, tdavis, Failed QA , Hourly Loans
00:18 rangi libsysguy_dinner: giving them all nice bug 5549 :
00:08 sekjal okay, the QAQ is well under control... moving on to the Needs Signoff bugs