Time Nick Message 23:50 jcamins Let this be a lesson to all you who are on #koha while cooking dinner! :P 23:48 jcamins libsysguy's girlfriend dope slaps him as he chicken starts burning. 23:42 libsysguy_dinner holy cow rangi 23:41 sekjal wow 23:39 rangi out of 69 23:39 rangi 24 patches in 23:39 rangi thats where im up to 23:39 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-catalyst.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/merged_5549 23:38 sekjal hopefully I'll have good connectivity during my preconf session 23:38 sekjal thanks, rangi 23:38 rangi time to get my flu injection bbiab .. i might not get this done before you hit the hay sekjal, but it should be there ready for you in the morning 23:36 sekjal quittin' time, eh? 22:55 sekjal rangi: cool 22:55 rangi ive totally rebased it, to get rid of the bad commits 22:55 rangi whole new branch 22:55 Judit mornign 22:54 sekjal rangi: will I be able to apply the newly pushed 5549 branch on the one I pulled from the Catalyst repo earlier today, or will I need a whole new branch based on master? 22:52 jcamins Ah. 22:52 sekjal :) 22:52 sekjal sekjal: that was a late lunch 22:51 jcamins sekjal: weren't you getting dinner once you got to DC? 22:51 sekjal ooooh, dinner sounds good 22:50 sekjal ok 22:49 rangi sekjal: and let you know 22:49 rangi libsysguy: no worries, easily done 22:49 libsysguy that was my bad 22:49 rangi sekjal: ill push it to wip-catalyst repo at git.koha-community.org 22:49 libsysguy understood 22:49 rangi we shouldnt touch the .po files, thats up to the translation manager 22:49 sekjal rangi: let me know when it's ready to pull from the catalyst repo, and I'll get the updated fixes onto my machine, and continue with QA 22:48 rangi oh just had a commit changing/removing them 22:48 cait libsysguy++ rangi++ :) 22:48 cait yay :) 22:46 libsysguy what was up with the .po files? 22:46 rangi i fixed the high holds, and .po files 22:46 libsysguy sweetnexx 22:46 rangi and we are done 22:46 rangi then ill apply your three 22:46 rangi and fixing the commit messages 22:45 rangi applying them 22:45 rangi formatted patches from the rebased one 22:45 rangi ok, rebased, now ive checked out a branch new master 22:45 libsysguy rangi hows it going? 22:42 libsysguy thanks for helping me get it all together 22:42 libsysguy rangi** 22:42 libsysguy no worries reangi 22:42 rangi thanks for the patch libsysguy 22:23 cait hm 22:23 cait no even owen is sending me to bed... 22:23 jcamins lol 22:23 cait hmm had too much sugar? 22:23 * oleonard goes to bed 22:23 cait rofl 22:23 oleonard cait, go to bed! 22:12 sekjal (where 200$e is the equivalent of MARC21 245$b) 22:12 sekjal interesting... looks like some of the French UNIMARC frameworks are mapping 200$e to biblioitems.volume 22:11 jcamins Wow, late dinner. 22:11 cait we just got back to the hotel from dinner 22:11 cait yeah I am 22:10 jcamins cait: you're up late. 21:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add biblio.subtitle and appropriate mappings to MARC frameworks 21:54 * sekjal is working on bug 7715, now that QA is so nicely under control 21:53 sekjal k 21:50 libsysguy for the record…no 21:48 * libsysguy feels the need to try 21:48 * sekjal doesn't know enough about OO Perl to say 21:48 libsysguy didn't think to try that 21:48 libsysguy can you do a clone in the arguments? 21:48 sekjal right on 21:48 libsysguy thats what I did to fix it 21:48 libsysguy basically 21:47 sekjal so do you need a ->clone() in there? 21:46 libsysguy anyway…the error actually happens because when you add the datetime duration…since it is a datetime object it modifies the original 21:45 sekjal libsysguy++ 21:45 Space_Librarian :) 21:45 * libsysguy is excited…i traced it through 3 modules 21:45 libsysguy sorry 21:45 libsysguy sekjal I found it 21:43 sekjal wehoo! QAQ under 10 for the first time in.... as long as I can remember 21:28 Space_Librarian lots of it, my precious.... 21:28 wizzyrea oye 21:28 Space_Librarian And yes, rain 21:28 huginn sekjal: The current temperature in Eckington Pl, NE, Washington, District of Columbia is 23.7°C (5:26 PM EDT on March 19, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 21:28 sekjal @wunder washington DC 21:28 Space_Librarian what they don't tell you is about the 95kmph gusts 21:28 wizzyrea rain rain all day long 21:27 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 14.5°C (4:27 PM CDT on March 19, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising). 21:27 wizzyrea @wunder Lawrence, KS 21:27 huginn Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on March 20, 2012). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). 21:27 Space_Librarian @wunder wellington, nz 21:27 Space_Librarian hey sekjal! 21:27 sekjal howdy, Space_Librarian 21:25 Space_Librarian o/ 21:20 wahanui i think template is a copy from output 21:20 libsysguy template 21:20 libsysguy that is what I am thinking 21:20 wizzyrea probably in the template? wrong variable? 21:19 * libsysguy is frantically trying to find where it is incorrectly setting the datedue 21:19 sekjal hopefully we'll be done with hourly tonight or tomorrow, and you'll have til Friday to get the fix in 21:18 libsysguy aww thanks wizzyrea 21:18 wizzyrea I'll wait til your thing is in though :P 21:17 * wizzyrea is of a mind to fix it. Maybe. 21:17 wizzyrea it oughta be an include. </grump> 21:17 * wizzyrea is really mad about the fact that you would even have to look at both 21:16 libsysguy im a little sad I didn't catch that 21:12 libsysguy ok ill look at an hourly item 21:11 wizzyrea not the checkout time 21:11 sekjal it says I checked it out 1 hour from now (when it's due) 21:11 wizzyrea checked out is showing the return time 21:11 sekjal it's the 'checked out on' column 21:11 sekjal that's technically correct, just not particularly detailed 21:10 wizzyrea otherwise, it's not helpful? 21:10 sekjal right, the problem isn't the due column 21:10 wizzyrea with the time 21:10 libsysguy but if it is due an hour from now…shouldn't it be due tdoay? 21:10 sekjal minor thing, hopefully just display 21:09 sekjal the checked out on column, though, has the due date and time, instead of the time I actually checked it out 21:09 libsysguy ohh thats what you mean 21:09 wizzyrea that table needs to be an include. 21:09 sekjal date due shows as today's date, but without the time 21:09 sekjal then, I switch to the Patron Details tab (members/moremember.pl), and scroll down to the checkouts table 21:08 sekjal check out a 1 hour material to a patron. Due date shows as 1 hr from now, and checked out on shows as todays date (no time). All this on circ/circulation.pl 21:08 sekjal libsysguy: here's how I'm getting the display issue for checked out on 21:07 sekjal thanks, rangi 21:07 rangi heh 21:07 wizzyrea ctrl-w strikes again 21:06 * wizzyrea sighs 21:06 rangi and not in 5549 21:06 rangi no guarantees it will work, but at least the patches are there now 21:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds 21:05 rangi bug 7751 20:57 sekjal it seems like it could be a valuable feature 20:56 rangi k ill make one, dont want to lose this patch 20:56 sekjal rangi: no, I've not seen any bug report for these feature 20:53 rangi if something has a ton of holds on it 20:53 rangi or issue 20:53 rangi something to do with not letting ppl renew 20:53 wizzyrea i don't even know what it is :/ 20:53 libsysguy i was looking 20:53 rangi anyone know if there is already a bug for the high holds stuff? 20:50 libsysguy sekjal to help I passed along a patch to rangi that formats the datetime of the date_due and issuedate fields for curculation.pl and moremember.pl 20:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7595 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add branchcode to accountlines 20:49 sekjal but in a sec.... QAing bug 7595 first 20:49 libsysguy gracias sir 20:49 sekjal will work on steps to reproduce 20:49 sekjal then I went back and saw it in a non-renewal situation 20:48 sekjal libsysguy: I noticed the checked out on error when renewing a 1hr loan material 20:48 rangi ill put the patch there so it isnt lost 20:47 rangi if someone could make a bug for it, or point me to it 20:47 sekjal lulz 20:47 libsysguy silly high holds…man you'd think that patch worked for US congress the way it was sneaking into our patch 20:46 libsysguy that's where it was hiding 20:46 sekjal huzzah! 20:46 libsysguy ahh ha! 20:46 rangi and patch 32 has the highholds stuff .. getting rid of that 20:46 rangi ah aha 20:45 libsysguy i did a clean pull and it looked good to me 20:45 libsysguy I couldn't find the issue you mentioned about checked out on 20:45 libsysguy one thing sekjal 20:45 * rangi is up to commit 32 of 80 20:45 sekjal libsysguy++ 20:45 rangi libsysguy has the other ones covered 20:45 sekjal I've got a whole evening to kill 20:44 sekjal I can work on some of the other issues, too, if extra hands would help 20:44 sekjal great, let me know, and I'll pull 20:44 rangi ill push a new branch when its done 20:44 libsysguy sekjal :) 20:44 sekjal thanks, rangi 20:44 libsysguy o/ 20:44 * rangi is rebasing 5549 to fix the .po issue 20:42 sekjal hey, rangi 20:42 rangi hi sekjal 20:42 sekjal evening, #koha 20:39 patric2 thanks 20:39 rangi usually with a vendor called donations 20:39 patric2 as far as aquisitions 20:38 patric2 How are donated books usually handled? 20:27 wizzyrea shush 20:26 magnuse yeah, that might do it too, eythian_bucklame 20:26 wahanui eythian_bucklame: that doesn't look right 20:26 eythian_bucklame change his nickname to say that he's away! 20:22 magnuse hey wizzyrea, know what you could do to stop him nagging? 20:22 * magnuse agrees 20:19 jcamins :) 20:19 wizzyrea but mostly funny 20:19 * wizzyrea thinks jcamins is simultaneously the funniest and most annoying nag ever 20:19 magnuse hm, i wonder what that could be... 20:19 jcamins If only there were some way to reduce that number... 20:18 magnuse it sure is 20:17 jcamins That's a lot. 20:17 jcamins There are 554 bugs with a pushed status. 20:16 jcamins *hint 20:16 jcamins Hint hing. 20:16 jcamins We should close some of those! 20:16 jcamins I know! 20:16 jcamins Hey! 20:16 jcamins All the open bugs with the Pushed to Master status make it easy for a bug to be overlooked. 20:15 wizzyrea I assumed that it would be - but I think it was overlooked for 3.6.4 20:14 jcamins It's marked as a bug. 20:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6539 minor, P3, ---, peter.lorimer, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 Search ISBN Field Populated with title 20:14 jcamins bug 6539 20:14 wizzyrea thanks huginn 20:14 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 20:14 wizzyrea @later tell chris_n bug 6539 will be in 3.6.5 or no? 19:45 rangi we broke the homeoffice 19:45 rangi Reference #3.25f184ce.1332186303.3e24bf2a 19:45 rangi The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. 19:45 rangi lol 19:44 rangi you could reply to that recent email with that link :) 19:44 rangi slef: looks good 19:43 edveal Anyone out there tried to edit what is visible in the drop down menu in the staff client item display edit, specifically the "Delete all items" 19:42 rangi looking now 19:39 slef dinner 19:39 slef rangi: I need some scotch. I've just spent 90 minutes trying to understand recent changes to UK visa rules. 19:38 slef please sanity-check http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/ 19:31 rangi doesnt hurt to have them there 19:31 rangi hmm don't see why not 19:27 jcamins Hey, shouldn't the release notes for stable releases 3.2.1-present be in master? 19:26 rangi yes 19:26 jcamins_away misc/release_notes? 19:26 * jcamins_away catches up. 19:26 libsysguy sekjal mentioned they needed to be removed but ive never seen them 19:26 jcamins_away Oh. 19:26 jcamins_away libsysguy: which release notes? 19:26 libsysguy where are the release notes hiding 19:19 wahanui sekjal was last seen on #koha 1 hours, 37 minutes and 39 seconds ago, saying: so, while I have connection, I'll wish you all a good day. hopefully I'll see you later on [Mon Mar 19 17:41:46 2012] 19:19 libsysguy seen sekjal 19:18 rangi there will be definitely be some scotch invested in in edinburgh 19:17 rangi :) 19:17 jcamins_away rangi: whiskey? 19:17 * rangi snort laughs 19:17 rangi im investing in angels 19:17 wizzyrea mornin 19:16 rangi morning 18:45 wizzyrea bye tcohen 18:45 tcohen bye #koha 18:45 tcohen got to leave 18:43 tcohen that should do it 18:43 tcohen koha-index-daemon --conf /home/mylib/etc/koha-conf.xml 18:43 wizzyrea that's a v good point 18:43 wizzyrea ooh, I haven't tested that either. 18:42 tcohen on the same server 18:42 tcohen wizzyrea, I also didn't test how does it behave with several koha instances installed 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5596 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , add author to holds to pull report 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7301 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add default date limit to acquisitions histsearch 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7400 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Add auto-completion on auth_finder 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7477 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Duplicate calendar 18:42 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 5596 [REVISED 2] add author to holds to pull report 18:42 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7301: 'From' field is 1 year ago by default 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7668 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve navigation and toolbar options in guided reports 18:42 jenkins_koha * matthias.meusburger: Bug 7400: Add auto-completion on auth_finder 18:42 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7477: Followup: Fix perlcritic issues 18:42 jenkins_koha * srdjan: Bug 7477: Copy holidays from one branch to another 18:42 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7668 - Improve navigation and toolbar options in guided reports 18:41 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_7140: Added item description to complement icon to search result and biblio detail pages 18:41 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: C4::Members follow-up 18:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #661: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/661/ 18:40 wizzyrea i have been loving it 18:40 tcohen and have that fancy feature ready for use 18:40 tcohen so we just do the same as we do to have the zebra-daemon running at startup 18:39 tcohen i'd go with that code, integrating it a bit more, giving a complete solution (out-of-the-box) to the end user 18:38 * wizzyrea watched a kitten soul go up to heaven 18:38 tcohen 'my approach' 18:38 wizzyrea I saw that 18:38 tcohen and I personally abandoned my own code 18:38 tcohen I like the code 18:37 wizzyrea if you do, then yea, we should use his 18:37 wizzyrea do you think his solution is better? 18:37 wizzyrea tcohen: I don't actually know 18:36 tcohen we can fill a new one, for integrating frederic's lib 18:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Patch doesn't apply , Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib 18:34 tcohen wizzyrea: what do u think of closing bug 5166? 18:28 slef wizzyrea: I think so. Let you know in a mo. 18:27 patric back in a bit, changing laptops 18:26 patric So yes I figured out something 18:24 patric I have internal control numbers, and they are also our barcodes, so I'm planning to to import those numbers as 952p and 001 18:23 wizzyrea appears so :) 18:23 wizzyrea slef: did you get it figured out? 18:22 cait you can use 001 to link records together 18:22 cait d 18:22 cait but I don't think they are actually require 18:22 cait they can be useful 18:22 cait hm 18:20 patric are 001's required? 18:14 cait here you go :) 18:14 cait ah 18:14 wahanui hmmm... 952 is the field used for items in Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29 18:14 cait 952? 18:14 cait items? 18:13 cait items` 18:13 wahanui item information is interesting 18:13 cait item information? 18:13 patric ok 18:13 cait because if you have more than one item for a record, 001 will not work 18:13 cait there is documentation on the wiki 18:13 cait patric: it should be in 952 p I think 18:12 patric The number that's our current barcode, I've been assigning to control (001) that should be 925 also or instead? 18:12 * cait waves from the hotel 18:12 wahanui The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here. 18:12 slef patric: marc? 18:11 wahanui well, same material is different depending on the department. 18:11 slef same material? 18:11 patric Marc question. 18:11 wizzyrea follow* 18:10 wizzyrea ah I folow now 18:10 wahanui i heard koha was a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info 18:10 slef koha? 18:10 * slef is trawling wahanui 18:10 wahanui somebody said the koha community was an amazing thing 18:10 slef the koha community? 18:10 wizzyrea something is maddening? 18:10 * wizzyrea looks around 18:10 slef what's maddening? 18:09 wizzyrea (yay!) 18:09 wahanui somebody said :) was ok 18:09 slef :)? 18:09 wizzyrea \o/ 18:09 slef I can see it 18:09 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot reloading 18:09 wizzyrea forget reloading 18:09 wahanui rumour has it reloading is not an option as sessions might be stored there too 18:09 slef reloading 18:08 wizzyrea but they do now 18:08 wizzyrea subadmins didn't have rights to it 18:08 slef no I don't see that but I can look up the docs 18:08 wizzyrea do me a favor, log out and back in 18:08 slef cformsII 18:08 slef thanks 18:08 wizzyrea http://content.screencast.com/users/lizrea/folders/Jing/media/956c2f55-2736-4e03-8dff-27252d32d462/00000490.png 18:08 slef and for those of us who don't want to let unknown websites run javascript? ;) 18:07 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/bIC8HmBAECk9 18:06 slef no :) 18:06 slef looking for its docs 18:06 wizzyrea do you see cforms? 18:06 wizzyrea oh, yes - it's called cforms 18:06 slef I think not but I can't see everythings 18:05 * wizzyrea waves, too 18:05 wizzyrea let me check 18:05 slef wizzyrea: hi there. Does koha-community.org have a contact form plugin installed? 18:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #661 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 12 j ago) 18:01 slef mib_q411h3: If I recall correctly, liblime 4.0 is a fork of koha 3.0 and its development has occurred mostly independently since then. Some features may have gone each way, but I think real koha has developed best. 17:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5596 [REVISED 2] add author to holds to pull report <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3cae766949599c88095930b8fd37dabfc79a5cc> / Bug 7301: 'From' field is 1 year ago by default <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3ba35c0a04265fa2ac1d9f2cb1483665a0b80f6> / Bug 7400: Add auto-completion on auth_finder <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi 17:59 jcamins mib_q411h3: it's a marketing ploy. No one here will support LibLime's software, though, so you're much better off using Koha. 17:58 mib_q411h3 i'm seeing liblime offering a koha 4.x, why have they changed numbers so drastically 17:56 * slef takes a break and does some kohacon admin 17:51 cait bye #koha 17:50 oleonard exit 17:50 oleonard Leaving too. Bye #koha 17:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6296 enhancement, P4, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Allow authentication to Koha via PKI / x.509 certificates 17:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Expire holds that have been waiting too long 17:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4976 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Status of item returned with process_koc.pl is empty in Intranet 17:43 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6296 follow-up: DBrev 17:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Provide datepicker for sql reports runtime parameters 17:43 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6296: allow users to be authenticated by SSL client certs 17:43 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 7408 Fix ExpireReservesMaxPickUpDelayCharge syspref definition 17:43 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 4976 - Status of item returned with process_koc.pl is empty in Intranet 17:43 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5698: Followup: Add date picker option to SQL Runtime Parameters 17:43 jenkins_koha * koha.sekjal: Bug 5698: Add date picker option to SQL Runtime Parameters 17:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #660: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/660/ 17:42 slef sekjal: Hope you have a good day. Any kneejerk response to the item types discussion welcomed. 17:42 slef I added the 5.00 fine to the FAQ 17:41 sekjal so, while I have connection, I'll wish you all a good day. hopefully I'll see you later on 17:41 sekjal I'm getting a little too hungry to QA well anymore 17:41 sekjal okay, I'm almost to my destination, where I shall attempt to find food 17:20 gaetan_B bye ! 17:17 jcamins Ah, right. 17:15 sekjal just in Baltimore now 17:15 sekjal jcamins: actually on my way to DC for Computers in Libraries 17:10 jcamins Yay! What are you doing in Trenton? 17:10 sekjal almost done with this train ride 17:07 clrh -18:04- : jcamins : One of the side effects of my work on bug 7284 is that SearchAuthorities no longer has any C4 dependencies. 17:07 clrh -18:03- : jcamins : I'll also point out that SearchAuthorities is a good candidate for moving after ModZebra has been successfully rehoused. 17:07 jcamins I'll be around less the rest of the week, but I'll do my best to look at any code produced and offer commentary. 17:06 clrh tomorrow I hope 17:06 clrh jcamins: all needs to be done, we didn't produce a line of code ;) 17:06 jcamins I'm glad you're enjoying it. 17:05 clrh juan_sieira_: 17:05 paul_p really *great* !!! 17:05 jcamins :) 17:05 paul_p => for the fudge !!! 17:05 paul_p jcamins++ 17:05 paul_p jcamins++ 17:05 jcamins Definitely important! 17:04 clrh me I listed solr architecture we used and worked on packaging solr perl cpan dependencies 17:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements 17:04 clrh it was an install day, a discussion day, trying to make work thinks - tajoli listed everywhere zebra is used 17:04 jcamins One of the side effects of my work on bug 7284 is that SearchAuthorities no longer has any C4 dependencies. 17:04 jcamins I'll also point out that SearchAuthorities is a good candidate for moving after ModZebra has been successfully rehoused. 17:03 jcamins Okay. 17:03 clrh jcamins: for the moment I think no 17:03 clrh we discuss today with juan_sieira_ and tajoli and joubu 17:03 jcamins clrh: wondering if there were any questions. :) 17:03 cait guilty 17:02 jcamins :) 17:02 clrh I think the little bird is called cait 17:02 wahanui jcamins is an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or against all things wine. 17:02 clrh yes jcamins 17:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jcamins, Patch doesn't apply , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio 17:02 jcamins A little bird told me that you're discussing bug 7430 and the solr transition? 17:02 clrh (not for a long time ;) 17:01 clrh yep jcamins 17:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #660 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 12 j ago) 17:00 jcamins clrh: Around? 16:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6296 follow-up: DBrev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d69ebc05685050256d9ab44dbd94faced42cec02> / Bug 6296: allow users to be authenticated by SSL client certs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4cbeeedbe8ee631777b814fabf8c999f48265c07> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7408' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=235a9 16:53 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875> 16:53 * jcamins hadn't thought of that particular use. 16:53 jcamins slef: ooh, that's interesting. I could use a feature like that. 16:52 slef brb 16:52 slef I mean, I have sent a reply... 16:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7716 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Statistical item type 16:52 slef sekjal: reply to bug 7716. Thanks for your analysis. 16:49 jcamins Now I just have to figure out how to install a certificate in a web browser and have it work. 16:48 slef added to FAQ 16:48 * jcamins throws a PKI party. 16:48 jcamins Woohoo! 16:45 patric thanks jcamins, I'm sure that's exactly right 16:45 Morthland thank you. 16:45 Morthland That's it 16:45 slef this isn't in the FAQ. Probably should be. Seeing if I can add it. 16:45 jcamins Just asking. 16:45 jcamins This is from memory, don't take it as gospel. 16:44 jcamins System administration->item types? 16:44 jcamins Isn't it associated with itme type? 16:44 wahanui i guess faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 16:44 slef faq? 16:43 Morthland same problem 16:43 jcamins patric: there are multiple 952s attached to some (or all) records. 16:43 Morthland Set a new rule to make loan charge 0. 16:43 patric Why are there about twice as man "items" as bibs in that import, and how come I can't clean it, or otherwise delete, any guesses? 16:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, tdavis, Failed QA , Hourly Loans 16:42 sekjal so it's fresh in my head 16:42 sekjal I just got severely fined on my test machine while QAing bug 5549 16:41 slef sekjal has it right. I was going from memory again. I will learn. 16:41 sekjal Morthland: under Admin, Circulation and Fines Rules 16:41 sekjal Morthland: if you imported the example item types, they have a $5 fee associated with each of them by default 16:41 Morthland Where is fines and loans? In the patron type? 16:40 slef Morthland: and if there is nothing in there, it'll be the system preferences 16:40 Morthland thank you 16:40 slef sekjal: openvpn or rocks may help stabilise the connection 16:39 slef Morthland: see Fines and loans rules 16:39 sekjal slef: I'm on a Dell Latitude laptop 16:39 slef Morthland: loan charge of $5 16:39 slef sekjal: what device are you using? 16:39 Morthland why is that happening 16:39 Morthland There is no enrollment cost 16:39 Morthland On a clean install, every item I check out gives an automatic fine of $5 16:39 sekjal I really shouldn't have expectations of train wifi, but ugh this yoyo connection is obnoxious! 16:39 jcamins slef: so the answer is "yes." :P 16:38 Morthland Howdy all. 16:38 sekjal slef: anyone can mark Failed QA if the patch does not work 16:38 jcamins But "Failed QA" is the correct status. 16:38 jcamins slef: you're a sinner! Only immediate repentance can save you! 16:38 slef sekjal: am I meant to use Failed QA or did I just sin? 16:37 slef patric: http://paste.koha-community.org/ 16:37 patric paste in here, or pastebin? 16:37 wahanui slef: I forgot bug 7613 16:37 slef wahanui: forget bug 7613 16:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , OCLC Connexion Gateway 16:37 wahanui bug 7613 is interesting to me 16:37 slef bug 7613 16:37 slef patch applied, but produced error on execution 16:36 slef am I meant to use Failed QA or did I just sin? 16:36 patric Hmmm, I have a software startup that's been running for about a year on no budget, maybe we should check out kickstarter 16:36 slef nyaarfg :) 16:33 jcamins patric: it's a project on kickstarter. 16:32 jcamins patric: yeah, that was my thought. 16:32 Joubu matts: MT8726, MT8727 16:32 patric 10k, rather 16:31 patric I will make you some yellow plastic tape for 10, would you like 1 roll or 2? 16:29 jcamins Does it really cost $10k to make yellow plastic tape? 16:28 mveron Thanks, will do... 16:28 jcamins Better to just read record.abs. 16:27 jcamins It's out of date now, of course. 16:27 jcamins http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/kohasearchindexes.html 16:27 mveron Did not find it... 16:27 mveron :-) 16:27 jcamins Or was, anyway. 16:27 jcamins mveron: it's in the manual somewhere. 16:26 mveron Does anybody know where we can find "Koha indexing chart" as mentioned in the manual "2. Guide to searching" 16:26 jcamins Caused by an unidentified bug. 16:25 jcamins kyleh: there are instances when there are exactly identical entries in reserves. 16:25 mveron Welcome 16:24 patric tyvm, looking 16:24 mveron Patric: Maybe: Sytem preferences->Opac preferences->Policy ? 16:20 patric where's single-branch mode set? Sorry for the silly questions, but I'm really making an effort, despite evidence to the contrary. 16:19 * wizzyrea loves that we have swiss now 16:18 mveron mbalmer is now on the way to Marseille, representing our Swiss koha club... 16:18 mveron Hi #koha 16:12 wizzyrea and things should be better. 16:12 wizzyrea turn it back on, log out, and log back in as your new user 16:12 wizzyrea turn off single branch mode, create yourself a new staff user with superlibrarian permissions 16:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6945 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, pelletiermaxime, Needs Signoff , Add a link to show a MARC preview in the normal view 16:11 nengard paul_p can you update us on bug 6945 - is the patch okay as it stands as Owen and I noted? 16:11 wizzyrea log in as a user that isn't the koha user 16:11 patric More specifically, set library takes me a page where I am informed that single branch mode is on, but the expected pull-down with a list (1) of libraries does not show up. 16:10 wizzyrea i mean, bummer? 16:10 wizzyrea woot! 16:10 patric Hey, I broke stuff! 16:04 wizzyrea http://www.walkingpaper.org/5300 16:02 tcohen ¿ 16:02 tcohen is there a way to show in the wiki the content tree instead of sorting everything alphabeticaly 15:59 wizzyrea biblibre++ for sure. Sounds like a fun time. :) 15:59 sekjal biblibre++ for hosting the hackfest 15:57 sekjal :) 15:56 oleonard It's not every day you have a room full of testers sekjal 15:54 sekjal guess that's not really a bad problem to have. means things are getting fixed and tested 15:53 sekjal new bugs are appearing in my QAQ almost as fast as I can process them 15:52 cait it's been a long day here 15:52 sekjal but it's not even noon here yet 15:52 sekjal feels like it's already been a long day 15:52 * wizzyrea loves marzipan 15:52 cait wizzyrea: take some marzipan :) 15:46 libsysguy not sure how to fix the .t file 15:45 libsysguy yeah i guess remove the release notes, get the version number correct aren't big 15:45 wizzyrea appears to be easy-ish stuff to fix though 15:45 * wizzyrea is trying to help 15:44 libsysguy heh 15:44 wizzyrea libsysguy- that is not the worst qa fail I've seen. At least it mostly works. 15:42 cait which seems to have happened here 15:42 cait but you should not make commits including them 15:42 wizzyrea ah okies 15:42 libsysguy calls sekjal gandolf 15:42 sekjal might be a typo 15:42 cait and git always knows about them - I mean they are tracked 15:42 sekjal wizzyrea: no, it didn't 15:42 cait ok :) 15:42 sekjal cait: it'll get resolved before anything gets through QA 15:42 wizzyrea did 7001 add suburb? I don't recall seeing that in the updatedatabase 15:41 cait whoever 15:41 wahanui libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck 15:41 cait or libsysguy 15:41 cait < translation manager assistant 15:41 cait sekjal: can you please make sure the po files don't get deleted? it really worries me 15:41 * wizzyrea calls libsysguy "ahab" 15:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, tdavis, Failed QA , Hourly Loans 15:41 wahanui well, bug 5549 is libsysguy's white whale 15:41 wizzyrea bug 5549 15:40 cait mbalmer: the datepicker will perhaps be for 3.10 tho 15:40 cait mbalmer: yep :) 15:40 * libsysguy is crying 15:40 mbalmer Sweet 15:40 libsysguy i saw 15:40 cait when these things are done - it will be very easy :) 15:40 cait and asaurat is working on putting the date filter into the templates 15:40 sekjal libsysguy: not sure if I came through, but I'm done QAing 5549 15:39 cait and this calendar has an option for those format 15:39 cait with jquery calendar 15:39 cait oleonard is working on replacing the datepickers 15:39 mbalmer cait, we noticed that a german date format tt.mm.jjjj can not be selected. Do you think that is difficult to fix? 15:37 jcamins How can one test the script for creating statistics on the sandbox? 15:37 cait mbalmer: trying to fix some translation problems today 15:32 huginn mbalmer: downloading the Perl source 15:32 mbalmer @airport please don't fix all bugs yet, leave some for me, too ;) 15:26 jcamins sekjal: what are you doing in Trenton? 15:26 sekjal and almost to Trenton, NJ 15:26 sekjal libsysguy: almost done! 15:23 sekjal blast internet on the train is lagging out so bad I can't lookup the info I need.... 15:23 sekjal okay, well it's something to double check on 15:22 cait not the translation manager tho - but we use pootle for dealing with those :) 15:21 sekjal anyway, I've only put that down as a 'warning' in my QA comments 15:21 cait no po files in patches, never 15:21 cait they should not be there 15:21 sekjal me, neither. I think we need the translation manager's insight 15:21 huginn wizzyrea: The MARC code for the organization whose control number is contained in field 001 (Control Number). [] 15:21 wizzyrea @marc 003 15:21 libsysguy im not sure what to say/do 15:20 libsysguy hmm 15:20 libsysguy right 15:20 sekjal I wouldn't want this patch mucking things up for translations 15:20 sekjal I'm not sure how they got in there 15:19 libsysguy and since this is based on my branch and merged with master would suspect they didn't get merged back in 15:19 sekjal I'm not used to seeing them in features, is all 15:19 libsysguy i probably misunderstood 15:18 cait and not from Koha 15:18 libsysguy if they are supposed to be there its my fualt 15:18 cait delete form the patch only I hope 15:18 cait hm 15:18 libsysguy you asked me to just delete those 15:18 sekjal yes 15:18 libsysguy rememeber when we were first QA-ing it 15:18 sekjal libsysguy: what's the deal with the .po files in the hourly loans branch? 15:12 cait it seems to work from here 15:12 tcohen mm, just too slow from argentina at least 15:11 tcohen bz down? 15:05 cait heh 15:05 jcamins :) 15:05 wahanui okay, oleonard. 15:05 oleonard jcamins' fudge is also internationally known 15:05 wahanui jcamins' fudge is awesomely evil 15:05 oleonard jcamins' fudge? 15:05 cait before you gave him the fudge - you are to blame for any damage done now 15:05 wizzyrea jcamins' fudge is awesomely evil 15:04 cait you didn't warn him 15:04 jcamins cait: no he cannot. 15:04 cait fuuuuudge! 15:04 cait jcamins: oh, he CAN blame you for it 15:04 jcamins Someone was working on it recently. 15:04 wizzyrea did those intrepid souls document it? I'm not sure 15:04 wizzyrea I am sure it has been done 15:04 edveal General question for the community: Has anyone set up Koha to run on CentOS? 15:04 jcamins oleonard: you can't blame me for cait's sugar high. 15:02 libsysguy excellent 15:01 sekjal libsysguy: moving along nicely 14:55 libsysguy hmm 14:54 sekjal referencing a non-existent borrower field, borrower.suburb 14:53 sekjal there is also some kind of 'printreserveslip' code in here 14:51 wizzyrea I could eat that all day every day 14:51 wizzyrea cait: I tried your fennel salad - omg yum. 14:50 mbalmer of to marseille.. 14:50 libsysguy oops 14:50 libsysguy its undef not 0 14:50 libsysguy actually 14:49 libsysguy but I'm not sure how dt_from_string('0') would handle that 14:49 libsysguy it looks like try_issue is passing 0 for a DateTime, then AddIssue tries to convert it 14:44 sekjal I think the problem is the test, not the code 14:44 sekjal so fail 14:44 sekjal and the resulting object is not a DateTime 14:43 libsysguy returns** 14:43 sekjal it's trying to issue to a borrower that doesn't exist 14:43 libsysguy it looks like it tests issues and retruns 14:43 libsysguy is reading the source 14:42 jcamins What's rollingloans? 14:41 * libsysguy starts panicing 14:41 libsysguy yayy for making a patch large and out of control 14:41 sekjal t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t fails 14:39 sekjal somehow it got bundled with hourly loans 14:38 sekjal this enhancement lowers the loan period on materials that have a lot of holds on them 14:38 sekjal libsysguy: sorry, was distracted 14:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Highlight holds on check-in 14:36 libsysguy bug 5956 14:35 libsysguy hehe 14:35 jcamins High holds, high holds, it's off to the library we go... 14:34 libsysguy what bug is that? 14:34 sekjal the High Holds development still seems to be piggybacking on this 14:33 libsysguy glad to be of service :p 14:32 sekjal which is pretty neat 14:32 sekjal though that did let me test fines accrual on checkin 14:32 sekjal not just the hourlyloans.sql 14:31 sekjal okay, I needed to run the perl file in atomic update first 14:29 libsysguy I don't think so 14:27 sekjal libsysguy: do I need to do anything with timezones? 14:05 libsysguy bug 5549 is my white whale 14:05 magnuse yeah, let's not disturb sekjal until he is done with it :-) 14:05 libsysguy its a scarry bug magnuse 14:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, tdavis, Signed Off , Hourly Loans 14:04 magnuse bug 5549 14:02 sekjal QA will probably plateau for a while... 5549 is going to take some time 14:02 sekjal cool 14:02 magnuse and they are reset every 24 hours 14:02 magnuse sekjal: yeah, cumulative they are! 14:00 sekjal magnuse: I take it those numbers are cumulative, not per hour 13:59 cait we have a big group of busy librarians here! signing off! 13:59 nengard cool 13:59 jcamins Nice! 13:58 magnuse ooh http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/gbsd/gbsd10/hourlystatus-gbsd10.txt 13:57 libsysguy noted 13:57 sekjal moving on to SQL 13:57 sekjal not essential, but worth noting 13:56 sekjal one followup: adding them to install_misc/debian.packages and install_misc/ubuntu.packages 13:56 libsysguy no cpan for sekjal today 13:55 libsysguy exactly 13:55 sekjal all debian packaged, which is nice 13:55 sekjal okay, so far so good 13:55 libsysguy i think those are it 13:54 sekjal do any others ring a bell? 13:54 sekjal ran koha_perl_deps.pl -m, and found I needed to install ReadOnly, ReadOnly::XS and DateTime::Format::DateParse 13:52 * libsysguy hopes I got all of them out of the comments 13:52 libsysguy yeah you need that and those libraries 13:52 sekjal libsysguy: to install hourly loans, do I just need to input the hourlyloans.sql from atomic update? 13:51 magnuse god dag wizzyrea 13:47 cait heya liz :) 13:46 wizzyrea heya 13:46 libsysguy good luck sekjal 13:46 sekjal hi, wizzyrea! 13:46 * wizzyrea waves 13:46 cait and thx for the analytics :) 13:46 cait good luck ;) 13:46 sekjal okay, on to hourly loans 13:40 libsysguy the one in france sekjal? 13:39 mbalmer paul_p, actually I will arrive 18:30 in Marseille 13:38 sekjal though I wish I'd been able to go to the hackfest 13:38 sekjal timed out well, actually 13:37 sekjal which means I've got plenty of time for QA 13:37 sekjal libsysguy: I'm on travel most of this week 13:37 libsysguy i mena i'm sure you don't have another job or anything :p 13:37 libsysguy sounds good to me 13:36 sekjal how about I start on it after 6831? 13:35 sekjal fair enough 13:35 sekjal libsysguy: not yet 13:35 libsysguy figured id poke a bit :p 13:35 mbalmer would be nice to have a cellphone nr from one or two folks there 13:35 libsysguy i was jw if you'd started QA-ing hourly 13:35 sekjal wassup, libsysguy? 13:35 libsysguy gotcha 13:35 libsysguy like bad dandrif 13:35 mbalmer paul_p, ok, thanks- 13:35 sekjal libsysguy: yes, but my wifi connection is extra flaky 13:34 libsysguy sekjal you around 13:34 paul_p mbalmer the one about your arrival and dinner ? yes, i fu: it to ppl that are already here (because I won't have dinner with your) 13:34 jcamins (speaking of why one should accept no substitutes for Koha) 13:33 sekjal looking at 6831 now 13:32 jcamins Incidentally, rangi wrote a nice post on using citation management software with Koha. 13:32 jcamins Ah. 13:31 magnuse sekjal: ouch 13:31 sekjal now they've given up, and are switching to Evergreen. at least they're going open source... 13:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6831 enhancement, P2, ---, colin.campbell, Signed Off , Enhanced Workflow for adding analytical records 13:31 magnuse bug 6831 13:31 sekjal they tried to switch to Koha, but got LibLime's ILS instead 13:31 sekjal back in Maine 13:31 cait pretty please 13:31 cait 6831 13:31 sekjal no, sorry, I mean the high school she attended 13:31 cait oh yes 13:31 mbalmer paul_p, seen my email? 13:31 * magnuse tries to think of a solution for ILS woes 13:30 jcamins sekjal: she left UMass for a high school? 13:29 sekjal y'all missed me lamenting my wife's high school's ILS woes 13:29 sekjal thanks, jcamins 13:29 sekjal wow, train wifi is getting lag-tastic 13:29 pastebot "jcamins" at 74.73.59.41 pasted "sekjal: what you missed" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/314 13:22 jcamins Sorry you asked, yet? :P 13:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6831 enhancement, P2, ---, colin.campbell, Signed Off , Enhanced Workflow for adding analytical records 13:22 jcamins Ooh, bug 6831! 13:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, tdavis, Signed Off , Hourly Loans 13:22 jcamins Bug 5549, too. 13:22 jcamins Yeah, that's a nice one. 13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Signed Off , Star ratings in the opac 13:21 magnuse bug 5668 would be nice 13:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7600 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Have book cover image script return single-pixel gif data 13:20 jcamins sekjal: Bug 7600 is a good one for QA, too. 13:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7702 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Test for C4::Heading::MARC21 should only run under MARC21 13:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7724 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Tests requiring Zebra should be skipped if Zebra isn't set up 13:20 jcamins cait: Bug 7724, bug 7702. 13:19 cait one of my pet peeves 13:19 jcamins Oh, that's a good one too. 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7086 major, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Signed Off , Suggested by not saved when creating suggestions in staff 13:19 jcamins Bug 7086 13:19 cait :) 13:19 cait 7086 13:19 jcamins sekjal: I just signed off on the one you asked for sign off on. 13:18 sekjal anyone want to nominate a bug for me to QA next? 13:18 magnuse jcamins: thanks 13:17 jcamins magnuse: custom search. Status changed by me, Status changed to "Signed Off," and then limit it to 2012-03-01 to Now in the Search by change history. 13:16 paul_p hi mbalmer 13:15 magnuse jcamins: how do you figure out that number? 13:14 marcelr still 12 days to go :-) 13:14 magnuse yay! 13:13 marcelr jcamins++ 13:13 jcamins Wow! I signed off on 51 bugs this month?!? 13:13 wahanui i think first question is "What are you trying to do?" 13:13 wahanui hmmm... paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee. 13:13 magnuse first question? 13:13 mbalmer paul_p? 13:12 mib_jt316i Good morning #Koha! Quick question, is there an easy way to configure the Language limit in advanced seach (OPAC) ? 13:11 marcelr magnuse: signed off==passed qa ! 13:11 magnuse jcamins++ 13:11 magnuse jcamins: you sure did! 13:10 jcamins magnuse: and I did my part for reducing that number this month. :P 13:10 magnuse 65 bugs need signoff - nice! 13:06 jcamins Awesome! 13:06 jcamins Ooh, it works properly! 13:05 jcamins Oh, awesome. Zebra's screwed up now. 13:03 jcamins Pretty sure it is. 13:02 cait and looked at the critical bugs 13:02 cait yeah, I woke up early this morning 13:02 cait jcamins: cool :) 13:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5068 critical, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , in add MARC record interface, concatenation of repeatable subfields in subject heading tags 13:02 jcamins cait: I'm checking bug 5068. 13:00 magnuse cait++ 13:00 cait I will try to take some :) 12:59 jcamins :P 12:59 jcamins The batch I made yesterday is for me! 12:59 magnuse is anyone taking pictures? 12:59 jcamins I didn't get to have any of that fudge. 12:59 jcamins oleonard: lol 12:58 oleonard jcamins, you'll send more as soon as it's wrapped? :) 12:58 cait you must have had a lot of time! 12:57 magnuse hehe 12:57 jcamins I sent as much fudge as I had time to wrap. 12:55 magnuse i wasn't counting on there being so many people... 12:54 cait I am not sure it willl survive until we go home today 12:54 magnuse hehe 12:54 cait and told us it will have to last for the whole week... 12:54 magnuse jcamins deserves an extra one for home made sweets, though! 12:54 cait paul put everything on the table 12:54 magnuse :-) 12:54 cait magnuse++ and jcamins++ 12:54 cait thx to magnuse and jcamins :) 12:53 sekjal thanks, magnuse 12:53 magnuse wb sekjal 12:50 magnuse you're welcome, alex_a and matts :-) 12:43 matts thx :) 12:43 matts magnuse, you're the one ! Even though you're not coming to the hackfest, you still manage to bring us chocolate ! 12:43 alex_a ;) 12:43 alex_a magnuse: did i say you thanks for chocolate ? 12:31 jcamins_away Didn't I do that one? 12:30 sekjal brb (hopefully) 12:30 sekjal hopefully the next one will have WiFi, too 12:30 sekjal about to change trains 12:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ssammons, Needs Signoff , Printing w/o the SQL Code showing 12:30 sekjal easy bug to test: bug 7646. once it has external signoff, it should fly through QA (template only change) 12:28 jcamins_away I am glad the fudge is enjoyed. The Irish cream flavor was specially requested by cait. 12:26 ArunRV2012_1 great. Many thanks. 12:26 jcamins_away Suitcase unpacked. Now to wait for the contractor. 12:26 marcelr i'll send you a script for several zebra functions; i run it under fedora 12:25 ArunRV2012_1 arunrv2011@gmail.com 12:25 marcelr email? 12:25 ArunRV2012_1 that'd be nice! 12:25 marcelr interested in a script for zebra? 12:24 marcelr no woe 12:24 ArunRV2012_1 woe is me. It looks the deamon in init.d/functions is not what I was looking for. Looks like some debian thing not available on fedora. 12:23 sekjal things are so much easier now, at least on Debian-based systems 12:22 marcelr ;) 12:22 sekjal never got past my first install 12:22 sekjal back in the Koha 3.0 days, I was going to try writing a paper comparing the ease of Koha installation across platforms 12:20 marcelr ArunRV2012_1: i run koha under fedora too; i do not use daemon 12:20 sekjal morning, NateC 12:17 marcelr :-) 12:17 sekjal marcelr: thanks for writing well commented, clean code. marcelr++ 12:17 clrh thx! 12:17 clrh jcamins_away: chocolates are delicious 12:15 marcelr sekjal: thx for your qa on 7310 ! sekjal++ 12:14 cait hope the bag is not empty until I get my hands on it! 12:14 wahanui the fudge is probably the ambrosia of koha. 12:14 cait and the fudge! 12:14 oleonard jcamins_away's too 12:14 magnuse yay, hope you like it 12:13 oleonard magnuse, your chocolate has been offered :) 12:05 ArunRV2012_1 lol.. of course. it looks like it's not a package, but a bash function in init.d/functions. Will try to source it and see what happens. Thanks. 12:03 magnuse \o/ 12:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7310 normal, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Passed QA , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) 12:03 sekjal marcelr: bug 7310 passed QA, one small followup may be needed 11:57 slef magnuse: har de har har 11:57 slef ArunRV2012_1: install the software package called daemon? 11:55 ArunRV2012_1 Hello folks. I've run into a few issues while installing koha on Fedora. "sudo service koha-zebra-daemon start" fails to start zebra server with the error "daemon: command not found". Any ideas on how to fix this? 11:52 magnuse he has his own HTTP? 11:51 slef still thinking about srdjan's HTTP 11:51 slef stupid brain 11:51 slef written, not requested 11:50 slef nengard: yes, seen. No time to fix it yet. Need to look if UK requirements changed since the template letter I have was requested. 11:50 magnuse ooh, lucky you! :-) 11:50 cait hackfest lunch break 11:50 cait we are having sushi now :) 11:46 nengard slef did you see the email about some Koha community members needing invitation letters to get Visas? I have gotten some people contact me directly for this info, but I told them to ask on the Koha list. We should get a template letter up on the wiki that they can download. 11:46 magnuse have fun jcamins_away 11:45 * jcamins_away heads over to the new apartment. 11:39 slef big selling point AFAICT 11:39 slef lets small libraries test it more easily, as long as they are aware it is slower 11:37 jcamins_away hdl: I wouldn't use it, but I think having options is a good idea. 11:36 hdl not going to argue on that. 11:36 hdl But it is a personal view 11:36 hdl i personally see no reason why CGI should be of any use in uptodate development and applications. 11:34 hdl playing. 11:34 jcamins_away hdl: oh, okay. Custom Perl handlers are interesting, though. 11:34 hdl and trying to set something working. 11:34 hdl just hacking. 11:34 hdl jcamins_away: there is no discussion at the moment. 11:34 * jcamins_away has no idea if that's what's under discussion, but he'll offer an opinion anyway. ;) 11:33 jcamins_away hdl: seems to me that it's better to keep it so that Koha could be run under CGI. 11:31 hdl http://modperlbook.org/html/13-1-Apache-Registry-PerlHandler-Versus-Custom-PerlHandler.html 11:31 hdl http://perl.apache.org/search/swish.cgi?query=Apache+handler&sbm=SecD&submit=search 11:31 slef found it... nowwww, how to pull one branch from there 11:29 * slef looks to see if srdjan's work is in the catalyst repo 11:28 wahanui OK, slef. 11:28 slef wahanui: git trees is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Public_Git_Repositories 11:27 wahanui git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 11:27 slef git? 11:27 slef git trees? 11:27 * sekjal waves back 11:26 * jcamins_away waves. 11:24 cait slef. 11:24 cait [off] I hope you didn't take that one then :) 11:20 cait chatting on #koha while being on trains ) 11:19 sekjal hi, marcelr. hi, cait 11:19 cait hi sekjal :) 11:19 cait sekjal: It's a new trend! 11:19 marcelr hi sekjal 11:19 sekjal the 21st Century is awesome! 11:19 sekjal also, riding on a train 11:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7310 normal, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) 11:18 sekjal QA'ing bug 7310 right now, myself 11:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway 11:18 slef as soon as I've done looking at bug 7613 11:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7235 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Patch doesn't apply , Adding invoice number and vendor name to the moredetail page 11:18 asaurat cait: bug 7235 11:17 slef but soon 11:17 sekjal ah, gotcha 11:17 wahanui slef: excuse me? 11:17 slef wahanui: slacker 11:17 wahanui OK, slef. 11:17 slef wahanui: RSN is Real Soon Now - or I'm not sure exactly when. 11:17 slef RSN? 11:17 slef email to come back at you RSN about statistical item type 11:16 slef hi sekjal 11:16 sekjal morning, #koha! 11:14 hdl is running plack with starman on opac 11:14 hdl dpavlin: catalogue.univ-lyon3.fr 11:13 slef [off] cait: one of them looked like someone had, with a small cannonball. 11:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway 11:12 slef bug 7613 is interesting to me 11:12 slef hi francharb 11:09 francharb hello! 10:56 dpavlin this enables plack to serve static files for development 10:55 dpavlin path => qr{^/opac-tmpl/}, root => './koha-tmpl/'; 10:55 dpavlin enable "Plack::Middleware::Static", 10:55 dpavlin sorry, ignore me 10:55 dpavlin described in thened to Sender 10:47 cait later :) 10:47 eythian_bucklame later :) 10:47 eythian_bucklame I'm going, bossy :) 10:47 cait eythian_bucklame: and go to bed! 10:47 cait eythian_bucklame: he wasn't smelly... so I think he mant the carving 10:46 eythian_bucklame you forgot to shower? 10:44 magnuse lunchtime! 10:44 magnuse nah, i forgot to do that :-) 10:44 oleonard Tricky 10:44 magnuse nice room, as long as you can get into and out of the shower :-) 10:43 oleonard If you carved your initials into the woodwork somewhere I can look for it 10:43 magnuse so she tells me too :-) 10:43 oleonard Oh, and hello magnuse. cait tells me I have your old room at the hotel :) 10:43 magnuse +1 10:43 cait +1 10:42 oleonard So for a while we'll have both 10:42 oleonard After all are done, we will remove YUI 10:42 oleonard ...and after 3.8 we will begin to incorporate each 10:42 magnuse yay 10:42 oleonard I will prepare separate patches for each module (tabs, autocomplete, etc) 10:42 cait ? :) 10:42 oleonard Okay, so new plan, re: jQueryUI 10:41 cait [off] don't shoot it 10:40 cait h islef 10:26 slef [off] I'm still in England playing "hunt the new home" 10:26 slef hi hackfest 10:22 Oak :) 10:22 magnuse nom nom! 10:22 Oak magnuse, cookies? 10:21 cait magnuse++ 10:21 Oak got it 10:21 magnuse Oak: root 10:21 wahanui cait: I forgot cait, 10:21 cait forget cait, 10:21 cait forget cait; 10:21 cait hm 10:21 wahanui cait, is probably "book stack" the word commonly used for the room closed to public where a library keep books 10:21 Oak cait, ? 10:21 Oak do I do ap-get install koha-common as root or normal user? 10:12 Oak hmm 10:02 cait cookies never hurt ;) 10:02 oleonard Hello from Hackfest, #koha 10:02 Oak will i have to offer cookies? 10:02 cait yep 10:02 wahanui here is where I work 10:02 Oak here? 10:02 Oak where? 10:01 cait I am sure you can find someone who can help you :) 10:01 Oak i've never configures Debian 10:01 Oak crap 10:01 cait or all the time 10:01 cait sorry Oak - no idea about that, I use ubuntu most of the time 10:00 Oak that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list file by the way did not exist. i have to create it and then add the line 10:00 Oak done wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add - 10:00 Oak can anyone please guide me trough the process? I have done apt-get update, and added deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze-dev main to etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list 09:58 Oak by scratch I mean installing minimal system with xfce gui and then starting fro there 09:58 Oak have you configured Debian from scratch ever? 09:58 Oak cait are you free? 09:51 cait :) 09:49 asaurat :) 09:48 magnuse wow, what a strange time of the day to see oleonard :-) 09:48 magnuse hiya hdl Guillaume asaurat oleonard marijana 09:46 cait http://template-toolkit.org/docs/modules/Template/Plugin/Filter.html 09:46 asaurat hi! 09:46 cait http://template-toolkit.org/docs/modules/Template/Plugin/Filter.html 09:41 cait :) 09:36 magnuse guten morgen cait 09:34 cait ok 09:34 mbalmer cait, this evening 09:34 cait morning magnuse! 09:33 cait mbalmer: when will you be here? 09:33 cait yep it started 09:33 mbalmer it started? 09:33 magnuse bonjour l'hackfest! 09:32 cait #kohahack12 :) 09:20 marcelr :-) 09:20 cait are you going to virtually join us? 09:19 cait hi marcelr :) 09:19 marcelr hello France 09:18 Oak :) 09:17 reiveune hi Oak :) 09:17 Oak hello reiveune 09:16 reiveune hello 09:15 cait heya Oak 09:15 Oak hello cait :) 09:15 cait make sure you get some of my chocolate from paul_p :) 09:15 cait hello :) 09:14 Joubu Hello :) 09:12 clrh hello all 08:40 adnan007 ok thanks 08:39 rangi ive never used it, you probably need to ask the ppl who made the livecd 08:38 rangi i dont know how the livecd has set things up, so dont know where it would be 08:37 adnan007 ok but you tell me the commad for zebra configration 08:37 rangi ahh, i dont know about that then sorry 08:35 adnan007 i install koha from a live cd which i get this is wit ubonto install ubonto it will install all the software including dspece joomla and koha 08:33 rangi what instructions did you use to install Koha ? 08:31 adnan007 where i find that zebra 08:30 rangi you followed all the install instructions? 08:30 adnan007 how 08:30 rangi ahh then do you have zebrasrv running? and hte cronjob for rebuild_zebra.pl set up? 08:29 adnan007 3.04 08:28 rangi what version of koha adnan007 ? 08:28 adnan007 yes in catlog searching i enter the keyword then submit 08:27 magnuse adnan007: how are you trying to see the records? by searching for them? 08:26 adnan007 how i can resolve this issue 08:26 adnan007 i am imorting my marc file in koha its shows that 3000 recoed added but when i want to see i cant 08:25 magnuse sure 08:25 rangi from the home of the anti opensource FUD, they are happy to use it when it helps them 08:25 adnan007 can anybody help me in this regard 08:24 rangi lol magnuse 08:24 adnan007 i need help regarding importing data in koha 08:24 wahanui what's up, adnan007 08:24 adnan007 hi 08:24 magnuse hm http://www.sirsidynix.com/blog/perl-for-beginners 08:14 * magnuse just remembered to start collecting stats for gbsw http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/gbsd/gbsd10/hourlystatus-gbsd10.txt 07:56 anitsirk well, wunder is not really correct. wellington also has light rain. put that humidity up ;-) 07:56 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 19, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 07:56 magnuse @wunder boo 07:56 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 15.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on March 19, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 07:56 magnuse @wunder auckland, nz 07:55 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on March 19, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 07:55 magnuse @wunder wellington, nz 07:55 anitsirk eythian_bucklame: then it's not any better than in welly 07:54 marcelr hi julian eythian 07:54 eythian_bucklame ah lot rubbish, really :) 07:54 anitsirk how's the weather up north, eythian_bucklame? 07:54 anitsirk hi julian_m and eythian_bucklame 07:54 eythian_bucklame hiya 07:53 magnuse kia ora eythian_bucklame! 07:52 julian_m hi 07:51 mbalmer installed my SIP client on my laptop, so I can hack on SIP in marseille as well 07:46 anitsirk hi marcelr 07:45 marcelr hi anitsirk 07:45 * anitsirk is in search of a new bug to test 07:43 marcelr hi rangi, magnuse 07:42 magnuse hiya marcelr 07:42 rangi hi marcelr 07:42 marcelr hi koha 07:37 anitsirk oh. i'll bookmark that. 07:35 rangi also you can use pastebot paste.koha-community.org 07:34 anitsirk yeah. patch didn't apply 07:33 anitsirk rangi: see the private chat. there were too many lines 07:33 rangi patch didnt apply? 07:33 anitsirk oh no. something went wrong. :-( 07:32 magnuse biblibre++ 07:32 anitsirk just waiting for the sandbox to be reloaded. the biblibre sandboxes are a really cool idea. less git for novices :-) 07:31 anitsirk oh thank you, rangi. 07:31 magnuse ah, cool 07:31 mbalmer magnuse, no, today I work with the swiss koha support group and in the evening I fly to marseille 07:30 rangi anitsirk: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.4/en/serials.html#newsubscription 07:30 magnuse mbalmer: are you in marseille? 07:30 magnuse not yet, by the looks of it :-) 07:30 mbalmer so when do you guys start in the morning? 07:29 magnuse bonjour mbalmer 07:29 mbalmer good morning, koha, hackfest 07:29 rangi just have to figure out how to a serial subscription now 07:29 magnuse hiya rangi 07:29 rangi ah yep 07:28 huginn 04Bug 5354: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Partial duplication of a subscription 07:28 anitsirk rangi: i found another one that seems to be achievable: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5354 07:28 rangi ooohh 07:28 magnuse anitsirk++ 07:27 anitsirk but it's bug squashing week and rangi showed me how to do it so i am attempting to test my second bug. 07:27 magnuse and i completely understand that - irc can be a bit of a dsitraction 07:27 magnuse no need to be sorry! 07:27 anitsirk yeah. sorry, i'm usually not in the channel b/c i can concentrate better without irc ;-) 07:26 magnuse long time no see, anitsirk! 07:26 magnuse :-) 07:26 anitsirk god morgen, magnuse 07:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 7.0°C (8:00 AM CET on March 19, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). 07:26 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:25 magnus_afk kia ora anitsirk! 07:25 anitsirk good morning, europe. :-) 07:00 cait hi mtj :) 06:58 * mtj waves to marseille 06:16 cait :) 06:15 Oak having fun 06:15 Oak ah, good 06:15 cait in marseille for the hackfest 06:15 cait no, ont yet :) 06:13 Oak back home :) 06:11 cait hi Oak :) 06:11 Oak hello cait :) 06:11 Oak kia ora #koha 05:30 cait mmorning :) 04:45 mtj found it ;) -> https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/koha-migration-toolbox 04:45 mtj aaah, all good - i was looking for ruth's koha-toolbox repo... 04:20 mtj bag kyleh perhaps? 04:18 mtj any bywater peeps about? 03:41 Amit_Gupta heya bag 02:05 Arun2012 Thanks :-) 02:05 rangi no worries, hope it works for ya 02:05 Arun2012 Thanks a lot. 02:05 Arun2012 I missed that.. lol. 02:04 Arun2012 !! 02:04 rangi http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/idzebra-2.0.50.tar.gz 02:04 rangi so no, just the tarball itself 02:04 rangi you said that was giving weird errors 02:04 Arun2012 you mean, the src rpm, right? 02:04 rangi last option would be try from the tarball 02:03 Arun2012 yes, I have tried that. 02:03 Arun2012 Nope Fedora-16 02:03 * rangi assumes you ahve tried http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/redhat/ 02:02 rangi fedora 6? 02:00 rangi just checking you hadnt stumbled onto a fork 02:00 Arun2012 Unfortunately, ubuntu etc. is not an option for me. Factors outside my control. 01:59 Arun2012 Yes, the latest one. 01:59 rangi what version of koha are you installing 3.6.4 ? 01:59 jcamins Most people use deb-based distributions. 01:58 jcamins I do not. 01:58 Arun2012 Ouch. I am installing koha on fedora, and all my attempts at installing zebra from rpms are failing. I tried building from the src.rpm, but that's giving weird errors. Do you know of any tutorial/how-to on installing zebra on Fedora? 01:56 jcamins Arun2012: there is no non-Zebra option for searching Koha. 01:56 jcamins You'll have to install Zebra after installing Koha. 01:55 jcamins Arun2012: no harm, but you won't be able to use Koha. 01:55 Arun2012 Hello everyone. Absolute koha newbie here, so be gentle :-) My question: is any harm done by installing koha without zebra? 01:06 eythian_bucklame (still an issue if your system is multilingual) 01:06 eythian_bucklame jcamins: well, if it's not set by default, it breaks it less... 01:06 Oak got it 01:05 jcamins The problem is, the textbox breaks translation. 01:05 Oak hm 01:05 jcamins Oak: I'd start with just a dropdown. 01:02 Oak like a drop-down list of 4-5 names to choose from, plus a text-box to name it whatever you like? 01:02 * jcamins likes a choice between "cart," "bookbag," "my shelf," and whatever the fourth one was. 01:01 jcamins Right, that's why it should be an option. 01:01 eythian_bucklame though that'll have issues with people being used to "cart" 01:00 eythian_bucklame that's not such a bad idea. Or just a better name of some sort... 01:00 eythian_bucklame that too, yeah 01:00 jcamins syspref breaks translation. 01:00 jcamins Yeah, that's the problem. 01:00 jcamins A syspref that chooses between common *translatable* labels? 01:00 eythian_bucklame I'm not sure what is, really, but that feels a bit wrong. 01:00 eythian_bucklame though, I don't think a syspref is the way to deal with something like that. 00:59 jcamins You know what would be useful? 00:58 jcamins [off] PTFS did one, but it... didn't work so well. 00:58 jcamins eythian_bucklame: I think so. 00:57 eythian_bucklame jcamins: need a syspref to make renaming easy then? :) 00:56 jcamins eythian_bucklame: it's doable, it's just that everyone hates the name. ;) 00:54 Soupermanito oh well 00:54 Soupermanito mmmhm 00:53 eythian_bucklame (at least, if everything has IDs/classes set as appropriate. If they don't, it's a bug) 00:53 eythian_bucklame you could rename it with some jquery 00:51 Soupermanito yes the name 00:51 eythian_bucklame that's true 00:51 jcamins eythian_bucklame: people like the feature, it's the *name* that people don't like. 00:50 eythian_bucklame people usually like the cart, but I think it can be turned off with a system preference. 00:48 Soupermanito eythian, yeah well, thats the sort of thing i should be able to do, like because i want to XD 00:47 Soupermanito one of the things she really, really hates its the shoping cart XD 00:47 eythian_bucklame changing much more than that will require messing with the templates and/or the code. 00:47 eythian_bucklame changing words is tricker, though I do a lot of the simpler ones with javascript. If you need more complex, you can make a custom translation. 00:46 eythian_bucklame in that case, it might be worth learning a bit on how to configure it, and then getting your friend to have a look through it and see what they'd like to make it do. 00:46 Soupermanito i mean i never changed the images or the words or stuff, i should do that 00:45 Soupermanito except i havent really "played" with it 00:45 eythian_bucklame Soupermanito: oh, then you're good :) 00:45 Soupermanito did both of those things 00:45 Oak well not a demo, a sandbox. 00:45 Oak demo site: http://opensource.califa.org/sandbox/koha_bywater 00:44 eythian_bucklame I'd start by poking around a demo site to get a fell for it, then by installing it on your own computer and playing with that. 00:43 Soupermanito where do you recommend me to start? 00:43 Soupermanito mmmhm i see 00:43 eythian_bucklame Soupermanito: depends on what they need, a lot you can do without having to edit code. 00:41 Soupermanito so, a friend of mine is working on an history library, and she is thinking about moving their current software for koha, so they might need someone who knows how to configure and edit it to their needs, she asked me if i would be willing to do so, so im thinking about what should i learn 00:40 eythian_ with some XSLT for fun 00:40 eythian_ definitely perl 00:40 Oak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koha_%28software%29 00:36 Oak well, that's not a good answer I can see now... "i think Perl". no it *is* Perl. 00:35 Oak i think Perl 00:33 Soupermanito whats the main language in wich koha is writen?