Time  Nick           Message
01:50 rangi          !jenkins build koha_master now
01:50 jenkins_koha   rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
01:50 jenkins_koha   Starting build #657 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 8 j 9 h ago)
02:32 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #657: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/657/
03:31 Amit_Gupta     heya bag
03:35 bag            heya Amit_Gupta
04:06 Penggu         hi all
04:08 Penggu         i was thinking of a way to have a very quick import system for new items:
04:08 Penggu         1) scan barcode at the back of the book (isbn/issn),
04:08 Penggu         2) scan our barcode label on the item
04:08 Penggu         3) goto (1)
04:09 Penggu         in the meantime, system will use (2) to match or search and import marc records automatically
04:09 Penggu         and just flag the ones with no match without interrupting workflow
04:09 Penggu         and later on, librarian can inspect the mismatches and complete the records
04:10 Penggu         it would be nice to have it in a datasheet format (similar to checks ins/outs)
04:10 Penggu         how difficult would it be to do something like this? i suppose such a facility doesn't already exist in koha?
05:32 cait           hi #koha
05:38 akosh          Hi to all
05:40 akosh          pidarasti
05:41 akosh          is anybody here?
05:41 akosh          i need your help very
05:51 bag            what's up
05:52 bag            or what are you having trouble with?
06:10 akosh          i have to put informer in main page? how I do it?
06:21 bag            what's informer?
06:25 sturmtruppen   morning #koha
06:27 bag            evening
06:27 sturmtruppen   us man...
06:27 bag            west coast man
06:27 cait           morning sturmtruppen :)
06:27 sturmtruppen   very nice coast
06:28 sturmtruppen   morning cait
06:28 sturmtruppen   my wedding travel was on west coast
06:29 akosh          informer with html code "<a href="http://www.cert.uz/uzcertified"><img src="http://www.cert.uz/certified/uz-certified.gif" border="0" /></a>"
06:30 bag            heya cait
06:35 Brooke         o/
06:35 Oak            kia ora #koha
06:35 Oak            guten tag cait
06:35 Brooke         kia ora Oak
06:35 Oak            o hello Brooke
06:49 sturmtruppen   little question:
06:49 cait           @wunder Konstanz
06:49 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.8°C (7:49 AM CET on March 16, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Rising).
06:49 sturmtruppen   is it possible scan a bar code and obtain the isbn of the book in koha?
06:50 cait           with z39.50 download
06:50 cait           but you have to do them one by one
06:50 cait           in cataloging
06:50 cait           z39.50 search
06:50 cait           cursor into isbn field ... scan, search, choose
06:50 sturmtruppen   one by one...
06:50 cait           yeah
06:50 cait           often you will find more than one record
06:50 sturmtruppen   yeah
06:51 cait           @wunder Konstanz
06:51 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.8°C (7:49 AM CET on March 16, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Rising).
06:51 cait           hm
06:51 cait           @wunder Dortmund
06:51 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Dortmund, Germany is 10.0°C (7:20 AM CET on March 16, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
06:51 sturmtruppen   i prefer the line command
06:51 sturmtruppen   nice trick cait...
06:51 cait           I think thre are tools to help with what you want to do
06:51 cait           but it's not in koha
06:51 cait           to take isbns and find records for those
06:52 cait           perhaps ask again later or on the list
06:52 akosh          how I can know koha's version
06:52 cait           it's on the about page
06:52 cait           in staff interface, go to the more pull down > about koha
06:52 sturmtruppen   the real problem is that i have 2000 written isbn without dash (-)
06:52 cait           hm
06:52 akosh          ok, i'll try
06:52 cait           unimarc right?
06:53 cait           inmarc21 that's the normal way to write it, but I think different for unimarc
06:53 cait           and it makes more sense with dashes
06:53 sturmtruppen   and the italian sbn don't found much of that because they haven't dash
06:53 cait           sturmtruppen: not sure at all and have to catch my bus :(
06:53 sturmtruppen   ok
06:54 sturmtruppen   next time, or someone else or internet, or... ineed to study much more....
06:54 akosh          where is it, i couldn't find
06:54 akosh          where is "about" page
06:55 akosh          someone can help me?
06:55 Brooke         do you know about MARCedit?
06:55 sturmtruppen   i'm looking for your abswer, i'm newbie too
06:55 Brooke         akosh are you on the OPAC side of things and not the Staff client?
06:56 akosh          no I'm logged in as administrator
06:56 sturmtruppen   int the Staff session, you have to click in About Koha
06:57 sturmtruppen   on my system is
06:59 akosh          sturmtruppen you are genius
06:59 akosh          i find it, but in the form about Koha version empty
07:00 sturmtruppen   mh
07:00 sturmtruppen   did you install koha on debian by repository?
07:02 Brooke         did you get it from koha-community.org ?
07:02 akosh          no I didn't
07:02 sturmtruppen   which answer...?
07:03 akosh          i has been installed by Korean volounteers
07:04 sturmtruppen   akosh: you downloaded the source from where?
07:04 akosh          and in koha about page, there is written "rilcis"
07:05 akosh          I don't know
07:06 akosh          and in koha about page, there is written "rilcis" instead of "koha"
07:06 akosh          Do you think this is the reason why koha's version was not shown
07:07 sturmtruppen   akosh: maybe you have to wait someone more expert than me... sorry! :(
07:08 akosh          ok, all the same you helped very much, thank you
07:09 akosh          by the way do you know how to add counter to opac's main page?
07:10 sturmtruppen   a counter? why do you need a counte on opac?
07:10 sturmtruppen   btw, I do not know....yet. I will learn.
07:10 akosh          ok,
07:20 alex_a         bonjour
07:22 mbalmer        bonjour
07:23 sturmtruppen   akosh: are you on linux?
07:25 akosh          yes
07:25 akosh          red hat
07:25 sturmtruppen   ok, try this:
07:25 sturmtruppen   grep INSTALLED koha/misc/koha-install-log
07:26 Brooke         no no
07:26 sturmtruppen   this will show you the version of KOHA you have installed
07:26 Brooke         if they got it from koha.org
07:26 Brooke         it's not koha
07:26 Brooke         and they need to redownload from koha-community.org
07:26 Brooke         cause that's the one we support
07:26 sturmtruppen   Brooke: to me?
07:26 Brooke         to you both
07:26 akosh          Brooke you can visit our site dilib.uz
07:27 sturmtruppen   ah, ok... i did not know it's from koha.org
07:27 akosh          koha has been customized by Korean volounteers
07:27 Brooke         the initial version
07:28 Brooke         the one that they customised
07:28 Brooke         is from where?
07:28 sturmtruppen   Brooke: sorry, i do not want to teach anyone on kha...just want to help :)
07:28 Brooke         don't be sorry
07:28 Brooke         you had all the right thoughts
07:28 akosh          sturmtruppen you have already helped me :)
07:29 akosh          yes
07:29 magnuse        the source code says <meta name="generator" content="Koha 3.0002012" />
07:29 Brooke         akosh that's the OPAC
07:29 magnuse        and kia ora #koha
07:29 reiveune       hello
07:29 wahanui        que tal, reiveune
07:29 Brooke         you need to be on the staff side to grab the about page
07:29 magnuse        s/source code/source/
07:32 akosh          this is about page screenshot link "http://www.diigo.com/item/image/2gnr5/6qhc"
07:37 cait-m_        hi koha
07:37 sturmtruppen   hi, modifies version of cait...
07:37 mbalmer        hi cait
07:37 sturmtruppen   modified
07:38 cait-m         i am on a train :-)
07:40 magnuse        guten morgen cait-on-a-train
07:42 cait-m         morning magnus
07:42 * Brooke       makes the doppler noise.
07:42 magnuse        for me?
07:44 cait-m         now she is gone
07:44 magnuse        oh noes
07:44 sturmtruppen   another little question: when i scan the barcode for the isbn, can i obtain the dash in the right palce or i obtain just the sequences of number?
07:44 magnuse        perhaps she fell asleep
07:44 sturmtruppen   *place
07:46 magnuse        sturmtruppen: not sure, might depend on the scanner?
07:47 mbalmer        sturmtruppen you only get the numbers from a scanner.
07:47 sturmtruppen   ok, so i do not need
07:48 cait-m         i think stripping them out would work
07:48 cait-m         but not putting them back in - can't work
07:49 sturmtruppen   again: which is the css i need to modified to change the layout of the opac?
07:51 cait-m         there are different options
07:51 cait-m         bit you perhaps mean opacuservss
07:51 cait-m         morning paul
07:54 sturmtruppen   there is no opacusercss, opacuser.css or somethings else
07:54 cait-m         it is a,system pref
07:54 sturmtruppen   ah, ok
07:54 cait-m         you don't want to edit css files
07:55 sturmtruppen   why not?
07:56 cait-m         because you want to update without headache
07:56 cait-m         and you have options
07:56 sturmtruppen   ok...you're right
07:57 cait-m         there are also prefs for using your own files
07:57 cait-m         search for css
07:58 sturmtruppen   ok. thanks
07:58 magnuse        or have a look here: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/impopac.html
08:03 cait-m         hi sophie :-)
08:03 sophie_m       hi cait-m :-)
08:03 sophie_m       is your suitcase ready ?
08:04 sturmtruppen   thank magnuse
08:06 cait-m         all packed but first going to dortmund today
08:06 cait-m         distance study exam
08:08 asaurat        cait-m !! oh ! good luck :)
08:09 cait-m         thx!
08:10 paul_p         hello world.
08:10 paul_p         is it my hotel or bugzilla is down ?
08:10 cait-m         hello pail
08:10 cait-m         paul
08:10 paul_p         hi cait-m !
08:10 gaetan_B       hello
08:10 wahanui        hey, gaetan_B
08:10 gaetan_B       o/
08:11 asaurat        bz seems to work
08:11 cait-m         hi gaetan
08:11 clrh           hello all
08:12 magnuse        paul_p: bz worked a moment ago for me
08:12 paul_p         I get "connexion reinitialized" when trying http://bugs.koha-community.org :(
08:13 cait-m         hm,works for me
08:16 paul_p         strange... it works well on chrome, but not on FF
08:16 magnuse        works in ff for me
08:17 cait-m         n9 browser works too
08:17 paul_p         it must be something with my FF...
08:18 francharb      hi
08:18 wahanui        hola, francharb
08:55 sturmtruppen   where i can add a picture of the book?
08:58 cait-m         there are different ways
08:58 cait-m         you already took a lpic yourself
08:58 cait-m         ?
08:59 sturmtruppen   i have an image i can use, if it's what you mean...
08:59 cait-m         localcover
08:59 cait-m         will be available on 3.8
09:00 cait-m         sorry for the typos
09:00 cait-m         i am on rhe phone
09:00 sturmtruppen   mmm, i have to wait....but i can solve in another way.. no pb.
09:00 cait-m         ypu can get covers ffom openlibrary
09:01 sturmtruppen   now, i will create a new machine and test openlibrary
09:01 sturmtruppen   i have to learn as much as i can
09:02 magnuse        sturmtruppen: take a look at the "Enhanced Content" section of the system preferences
09:04 sturmtruppen   magnuse:  arrgghhhh, alredy shoutdown the vm..... i copy your tips and i'll do this night. thanks!
09:05 magnuse        np :-)
09:14 * cait         waves
09:14 * magnuse      waves back
09:14 magnuse        on your laptop now?
09:14 cait           yep
09:14 cait           but tunnels...
09:14 magnuse        hang in there!
09:15 cait           trying :)
09:15 cait           black forrest
09:15 magnuse        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-03-19_Global_bug_squashing_week
09:16 cait           ya
09:23 * paul_p       leaves hotel to catch his plane. See you later
09:23 magnuse        have fun paul_p
09:23 paul_p         (and when I say "see", i'm thinking to cait & oleonard & others that i'll really "see" soon :D :D )
09:24 cait-m         hmm?
09:24 cait-m         tunnels--
09:25 cait           tunnels--
10:00 paul_p         limoges-airport++ ! free & really unlimited (all ports open) wifi !
10:15 magnuse        paul_p: yay!
10:16 paul_p         oups, I forgot to say thx to magnuse in my mail for the chocolate he sent ;-)
10:16 magnuse        hehe
10:16 cait-m         magnuse++
10:17 cait-m         waitong for my next train now
10:17 cait-m         paul_p: flying home?
10:17 paul_p         cait-m yep.
10:17 cait-m         :-)
10:18 paul_p         in the smallest plane ever = ATR-42, 45 seats, 1m80 height (it's fun with my 1m94...)
10:18 cait-m         heh
10:18 cait-m         be careful _
10:18 magnuse        mind your head paul_p ;-)
10:18 cait-m         we will need your head next week
10:19 paul_p         limoges international airport... really international as there are 2 lines for GB with Ryanair.
10:19 paul_p         but there are less than 10 take-off every ... DAY... that's the tiniest airport i've ever been too ;-)
10:21 magnuse        hehe, sounds like some norwegian ariports i could think of
10:22 cait-m         i think my smallest aeroplane so far was one from air lingus to dublin
10:23 cait-m         but was fun :-)
10:24 magnuse        my smallest plane had 5 seats...
10:26 cait-m         oh wow
10:27 cait-m         i think you win :-)
10:28 magnuse        woohoo! ;-)
10:28 magnuse        nice: http://hackershelf.com/topic/perl/
11:02 Oak            kia ora #koha
11:02 Oak            magnuse
11:17 * jcamins_away waves to cait-m.
11:18 cait-m         :-)
11:25 Oak            wb cait-m
11:40 * cait         waves
11:40 * jcamins_away waves back.
11:40 jcamins_away   @later tell paul_p I wrote a patch to fix the error on Jenkins. Bug 7724.
11:40 huginn         jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
11:43 Oak            wb cait
11:43 cait           hi Oak ;)
11:43 Oak            ooh winky cait
11:43 Oak            or may be the shift key
11:43 cait           may be
11:44 Oak            we'll never know
11:44 Oak            how was the journey?
11:44 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7656 - "undefined" pop-up message when putting hold on reference item <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bdd8eb5a814c2c9699f3728f7d32ae33bd6732c2> / welcome David Cook, you're 178th <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=afc662808293e75813ee0cc463fa1e4dd31fd140> / Bug 7618 Escape HTML special characters for SQL displayed above results in Report... <http://git.koha-
11:45 magnuse        bug 7724
11:45 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7724 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Tests requiring Zebra should be skipped if Zebra isn't set up
11:45 jcamins        magnuse: feeling in the mood to sign off?
11:45 cait           heh
11:45 magnuse        um, i have an error in sco i need to look at first
11:46 jenkins_koha   Starting build #658 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 8 j 19 h ago)
11:46 jcamins        We've got that one, and 7702, and 7701, and 7617, and 7600. :)
11:48 magnuse        and look, someone did a patch for Bug 7696, which someone else reported... ;-)
11:48 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7696 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT
11:48 jcamins        Ooh!
11:48 jcamins        Ten ticks and I'll sign off. :)
11:48 magnuse        :-)
11:49 magnuse        "small arachnids in the order Ixodida"?
11:49 jcamins        Hehe.
12:04 jcamins        Hm. paul_p's point on bug 7092 is a good one.
12:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7092 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Failed QA , Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly
12:04 magnuse        yeah, guess it is
12:04 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7670 - make required fields red <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0576342cbb3e4258551a2b0111ae80bebe0d18d8>
12:05 magnuse        guess i better do a new patch
12:05 cait           magnuse: will this work for marc21 too?
12:05 jcamins        magnuse: A global find-and-replace should fix it.
12:06 cait           I think I noticed the problem in one of our installations
12:06 jcamins        If you can do it in the next ten minutes, I'll sign off.
12:06 magnuse        cait: which one were you thinking about?
12:06 cait           {} vs ""
12:06 jcamins        magnuse: actually, if I make the change, will you sign off?
12:06 cait           I noticed a problem when searching for uncontrolleds subjects containing psaces and -
12:06 cait           I can try
12:06 cait           but probably not before next week
12:07 * jcamins      looks at the time.
12:07 cait           yeah, still on a train ;)
12:07 jcamins        Hrm. No, I guess I don't quite have time.
12:07 magnuse        cait: the initial patch works only for marc21 - i implement it for normarc in another patch
12:07 cait           oh
12:07 cait           !
12:07 magnuse        ...which will need changing too
12:08 magnuse        jcamins: would just replacing the text in the patch work? or will that produce an invalid patch, somehow?
12:08 jcamins        magnuse: I don't think you can replace it in a patch, but I use the following procedure for this sort of thing:
12:08 magnuse        hm, the description needs changing too
12:08 jcamins        git commit --amend to get the list of all the files touched.
12:09 jcamins        vim (list of files)
12:09 jcamins        :%s/TracingQuotes/ICUQuotes/g
12:09 jcamins        :wn
12:09 jcamins        (rinse, repeat)
12:10 jcamins        When you get to the last file, run :wq, then hit the up arrow to bring back the vim command line, Ctrl-A to go to the beginning, delete key three times, type git add, hit enter.
12:10 jcamins        git commit --amend
12:10 jcamins        (change message)
12:11 jcamins        Yeah, I've done this a few times.
12:11 cait           magic!
12:11 * magnuse      is impressed
12:11 magnuse        yeah, if you do a new patch i'll sign off
12:11 jcamins        I'd do it now, except I don't quite have time before I go to meet with the contractors again.
12:11 jcamins        .
12:12 magnuse        ah, i'll do a patch then
12:12 jcamins        Thanks.
12:12 magnuse        np
12:12 jcamins        I'll sign off over the weekend. :)
12:12 * jcamins      runs to meet the contractors.
12:16 magnuse        hm, what would a good name for the syspref, i wonder? "UsingICU"
12:16 magnuse        ICUinUse
12:21 slef           UseICU ?
12:21 cait           UseICU sounds good to me I think
12:22 cait           nice and short
12:22 magnuse        yeah, but that sort of sounds more like you can turn icu on and off with it
12:22 magnuse        oh well, i guess there has to be a not about that not being the case anyway
12:27 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #658: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/658/
12:27 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 7644 - Invalid markup in staff client language chooser
12:27 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: 7368 Typo in cart_to_shelf
12:27 jenkins_koha   * dcook: Bug 7618 Escape HTML special characters for SQL displayed above results in Report module
12:27 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: welcome David Cook, you're 178th
12:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7644 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Invalid markup in staff client language chooser
12:27 jenkins_koha   * kyle: Bug 7656 - "undefined" pop-up message when putting hold on reference item
12:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7618 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , HTML special characters break result table and incorrectly show SQL in Run This Report
12:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7656 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , "undefined" pop-up message when putting hold on reference item
12:27 jenkins_koha   Starting build #659 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 8 j 20 h ago)
13:01 magnuse        178 - yay!
13:04 Oak            \o/
13:07 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #659: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/659/
13:07 jenkins_koha   oleonard: Bug 7670 - make required fields red
13:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7670 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , make required fields red in additem.pl
13:25 magnuse        Oak
13:25 jcamins_away   magnuse: mind if I revise the commit message slightly?
13:25 jcamins_away   It's a bit confusing.
13:25 magnuse        be my guest!
13:25 jcamins_away   Thanks.
13:26 jcamins_away   I'm also going to correct some spelling errors. :)
13:26 Oak            :)
13:26 magnuse        2x be my guest! ;-)
13:30 cait           Oak
13:30 magnuse        gah, i forgot to change the name of the syspref in the commit message, didn't i? gaaahhh...
13:31 jcamins_away   magnuse: yeah, I'll change it.
13:31 magnuse        cool
13:37 Oak            cait
13:37 Oak            oh
13:37 magnuse        jcamins++
13:38 Oak            jcamins++
13:48 magnuse        jcamins++
15:18 vfernandes     hi guys... one simples question: how to install Graphics Magick on CentOS to use in Koha?
15:21 vfernandes     sorry its OpenSUSE
15:22 vfernandes     solved: zypper install GraphicsMagick-perl :)
15:35 jcamins        Alas... everyone is on their way to Marseille except me. :(
15:35 jwagner        jcamins, would it make you feel better if I mentioned that I'm on my way to Florida?
15:35 * jwagner      thinks probably not....
15:36 Guest6314      jcamins: i'm not on my way to marseille :P
15:37 sekjal         jcamins:  going to DC... but will be on IRC to be part of the virtual hackfest
15:37 jcamins        jwagner: sekjal: ... or somewhere else interesting. :P
15:38 jwagner        Ah. Can't help you there :-)
15:38 jcamins        Ah well.
15:38 jcamins        I'm renovating our new apartment, which might even out, in the end.
15:50 mbalmer        how will the weather be in marseille next week?
16:22 reiveune       bye
17:18 mib_43pche     i'm having a mysql crash i think as a result of the zebraqueue table
17:20 mib_43pche     http://pastebin.ca/2128868
17:24 gaetan_B       bye !
18:07 wizzyrea       ha, http://escholarship.org/uc/item/3qq499w7#page-1
18:08 jcamins        wizzyrea: Everyone should read that.
18:08 wizzyrea       *nod*
18:08 wizzyrea       interesting, "pathfinders"
18:08 wizzyrea       didn't work
18:08 wizzyrea       "reasearch by subject" did
18:08 * jcamins      tries to appear surprised, and fails.
18:10 jcamins        Utterly.
18:10 wizzyrea       oh that's a good one
18:10 wizzyrea       browse vs keyword
18:10 wizzyrea       label browse searches as
18:10 wizzyrea       title begins with ...
18:10 wizzyrea       subject begins with...
18:11 wizzyrea       or title includes
18:11 wizzyrea       includes instead of begins
18:11 * jcamins      prefers "contains."
18:12 jcamins        It's more common.
18:12 wizzyrea       sure
18:12 jcamins        I think Google uses "contains."
18:14 jcamins        Not anymore. Now it's just "with."
18:14 wizzyrea       looks split 50/50 between "use 'Electronic Resources'" and "Don't use 'Electronic Resources'"
18:15 wizzyrea       wow that's really helpful
18:37 slef           @query svc
18:37 huginn         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7213 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , Document /svc/ HTTP API and provide example command-line client
18:40 jcamins        slef: I think dpavlin made more progress on that.
18:41 slef           jcamins: not support for DELETE though, so I'm filing a new enh bug
18:44 jcamins        slef: what is your use case, out of curiosity?
18:45 slef           jcamins: document interchange system moving items in and out of Koha
18:46 jcamins        slef: interesting. Do you have this system yet?
18:46 slef           jcamins: not ours and not open AFAIK, sadly, but we do need Koha to interoperate with it to get it in there.
18:47 jcamins        Tell them FOSS is the wave of the future, and they don't want to be left behind.
18:48 slef           jcamins: I think they'll be convinced if we get Koha in there, but they've probably got as much fun in cleanup+release as we do on other things.
18:48 jcamins        Heh.
18:49 jcamins        I'm not saying one wants to release bad code, but I maintain that actually sharing bad code is better than not sharing the code because it's not "good" yet.
18:49 slef           I mean licensing cleanup.
18:49 jcamins        Ah.
18:50 slef           Sometimes the two are related, such as when you don't know where some code has come from.
18:57 jcamins        oleonard: on your way to Marseille?
18:57 jcamins        :)
18:57 oleonard       Got a few hours in Toronto to kill
18:58 oleonard       Happy to see IRC isn't blocked by the wifi
18:58 jcamins        I guess since you made it to Toronto you didn't forget your passport.
18:58 jcamins        And if you have your passport, you really have everything you need.
18:59 oleonard       I haven't had any panicked realizations yet
18:59 * oleonard     wonders if it's accepted etiquette to bring a giant duty-free bottle of whiskey to a hackfest
19:00 jcamins        oleonard: sure, why not?
19:02 * oleonard     did have a moment of panic in the Columbus airport when it looked like his laptop wasn't booting up
19:02 oleonard       Thankfully that seems not to be the case
19:05 jcamins        [off] "Use subjects as intended"
19:07 jcamins        oleonard: is your flight from Toronto direct?
19:07 oleonard       There was a patch which proposed to offer more fine-grained control over how subject links worked
19:07 jcamins        oleonard: you mean mine? :P
19:08 jcamins        oleonard: BibLibre had a very cool tracings feature that was HTP-only.
19:08 slef           [off] jcamins: does the Queen?
19:08 oleonard       I thought I remembered it being a Biblibre feature
19:08 jcamins        oleonard: then you're thinking of the very cool tracings feature that hasn't been ported to TT.
19:08 oleonard       The next leg of my trip is Toronto to Frankfurt, then to Marseille
19:11 jcamins        I bet it could be redone using the XSLT.
19:12 oleonard       Bug 5888?
19:12 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5888 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , opac-detail subject/author links improvements
19:12 jcamins        That sounds like the one.
19:13 jcamins        Actually, I bet it could be done using only jQuery.
19:16 oleonard       Maybe with the mythical menu module
19:40 oleonard       Anyone else get an error on the system preferences "local use" tab?
19:41 oleonard       Syck parser (line 300, column -1): syntax error at /usr/lib/perl5/YAML/Syck.pm line 76, <$fh> line 1.
19:41 wizzyrea       yeap
19:42 jcamins        Not in 3.6.3.
19:42 wizzyrea       it does it on master
19:44 jcamins        So it was probably sometime in the last month and a half.
19:46 sekjal         who wants to do the git bisect?
19:46 * jcamins      is cataloging.
19:49 sekjal         bug 7408
19:49 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Expire holds that have been waiting too long
19:51 wizzyrea       yea, that same thing probably broke it wonder if frederic's patch fixes it
19:51 wizzyrea       guess we could check >>
19:51 wizzyrea       it does, in fact, fix it
19:51 sekjal         nice
19:52 sekjal         which bug's the patch attached to?
19:52 wizzyrea       7408, at the bottom
19:52 wizzyrea       i'm signing off on the "fixes the problem with local use" part, I can't verify if it fixes the translations
19:56 * jcamins      looks forward to DOM indexing.
19:56 jcamins        He'll be able to do a browse for "recipients of letters." :)
20:00 oleonard       bbl
20:12 rangi          hmmm lots of bywater signing off on bywater lately ..
20:13 rangi          i hassled biblibre about that .. only fair i hassle bywater too
20:14 wizzyrea       *nod*
20:14 chris_n        yup
20:15 nengard        others are welcome to sign off on our sign offs
20:15 nengard        but i'm not gonna leave a patch untested if i know how to test it just cause a colleague wrote it
20:15 nengard        and we're coming up on the feature freeze
20:15 nengard        got to get these things tested
20:16 nengard        but hassle away :)
20:16 rangi          yep, i just dont think it counts as a signed off
20:16 rangi          whats good for the goose etc
20:17 rangi          there are guidelines for everybody, not just some
20:17 rangi          so signing off is fine, nbut i dont think it can be marked signed off
20:18 bag            but bywater is all about the community - I mean we're all community members first - right?
20:18 rangi          yes, thats why we should all play the same game
20:18 bag            so that's a silly statement rangi :)
20:19 rangi          dude, there are guidelines
20:19 bag            yeah I know - we do our best to follow them ;)
20:20 rangi          exaclty, and lately, theres been a slip, im pointing it out, like i did when biblibre were signing off biblibre patches
20:20 rangi          so you can get indiginant with me
20:20 rangi          or you can reverse the slip
20:20 rangi          choice is yours
20:21 bag            oh rangi you scared away nengard
20:21 rangi          shes a big girl :)
20:21 bag            of course...
20:21 rangi          she'll live :)
20:21 mbalmer        I have an Intermec PF4i on my desk and we are thinking ways of using it in a library,
20:22 mbalmer        media labels? patron cards/labels?
20:23 rangi          spine labels?
20:23 mbalmer        problematic..
20:24 sekjal         according to the signoff and QA rules we discussed (and I *believe* agreed on), signoffs can come from people within the same company, but then QA must be done by someone outside the company
20:25 rangi          it explicitly says preferably not from the same company
20:25 bag            yeah sekjal you're probably right - but Ideally another company :)
20:25 sekjal         right, the wider the set of eyes, the better
20:25 sekjal         no argument there
20:26 rangi          so was pointing out a lot of bywater ones are being signed off by bywater lately wrong, given i did the exact same thing for biblibre?
20:26 bag            not at all - IE no that's not wrong
20:26 sekjal         rangi:  I think it's a fair thing to point out
20:27 bag            heh - I'll try another way …  NO
20:27 mbalmer        hmm...
20:27 bag            heh
20:27 rangi          good just checking, cos i felt like i was being attached for it
20:27 mbalmer        what is wrong with colleagues in the same company signing stuff off if they did their job of testing?
20:27 rangi          nothing
20:28 rangi          but its better if they get an external sign off too
20:28 mbalmer        why, if they tested carefully?
20:28 wizzyrea       sometimes people outside think a bit bigger picture than people who are just adding 123's for clients
20:28 bag            cause we have had problems before :)
20:28 rangi          im of the opinion everything should have an internal sign off before it gets submitted
20:28 sekjal         cross-company signoffs are stronger, because there is less risk of conflict of interest.
20:29 sekjal         there is a *chance*
20:29 rangi          and hten an external one .. that would be sweet
20:29 sekjal         *chance* that a company could be pushing their own agenda instead of the greater communities best interest
20:29 bag            plus it promotes - company co-operation  - IE..  biblibre please help us out :)
20:29 rangi          it also spreads the knowledge
20:29 rangi          and what bag said
20:30 mbalmer        easy enough to follow
20:30 bag            basically IMO…  we had someone write the patch (submit to koha) and then someone here follows up (and tests - signs off whatevs)…  Then another should sign-off…
20:30 bag            so it should stay in the NEEDS SIGNOFF stage
20:30 bag            :)
20:31 rangi          barring trivial patches i think that would work well
20:31 melia          aren't you all saying the same thing?
20:31 rangi          we are now
20:31 bag            no melia I'm saying it better :)
20:31 bag            HAHAHAHA
20:31 melia          is there a particular bug in question that needs to have its status changed from signed off back to needs signoff?
20:32 bag            the latest one has passed QA..  so no
20:32 melia          ok. well if there is, I'll go change it. :)
20:32 * chris_n      always thinks an orchestra sounds better in harmony ;-)
20:32 bag            oh no I think I'm wrong
20:32 * bag          starts vacation
20:32 rangi          i dont think we need to change some back
20:32 wizzyrea       just be aware :)
20:32 bag            be well all you all - have THE fun
20:32 * chris_n      heads home
20:32 rangi          exactly
20:33 sekjal         if we wanted to horribly overcomplicate things, we could come up with a system of 'points' associated with signoffs, and only after a patch has accumulated enough points does it advance to the next stage
20:33 sekjal         game-ify it all a bit
20:33 rangi          gerrit does exactly that
20:34 rangi          its not actually that complicated either :)
20:34 melia          I have heard good things about gerrit. (not a developer, so I'm not going to vote - just passing along the hearsay)
20:34 sekjal         I'd be interested in learning more
20:35 sekjal         I think we've done a lot to improve our processes in the last few years, but we can certainly refine further
20:35 sekjal         git BZ was a godsend
20:35 wizzyrea       holy wow, no kidding
20:35 sekjal         then with git aliases...
20:35 sekjal         git qa 7408
20:35 sekjal         is all I have to type
20:35 sekjal         love it
20:36 wizzyrea       <3 <3 <3
20:36 wizzyrea       me too
20:36 rangi          https://reviews.mahara.org/
20:36 wizzyrea       it is definitely feeding my need to be super lazy
20:36 wizzyrea       my alias for "git com" is like, chorus of ahs
20:36 wizzyrea       "git checkout master
20:36 wizzyrea       "
20:36 wizzyrea       look at all of that saved typing :P
20:37 rangi          https://reviews.mahara.org/#/c/1087/
20:37 rangi          hehe
20:41 * sekjal       has 20 bugs in his QAQ... most of which are going to require a serious bit of testing
20:44 rangi          hmm i only see 9?
20:44 rangi          ah no, old search
21:00 sekjal         hmm.... now that I'm into the XSLT from Amazon to MARC, I'm wondering if this is even a worthwhile endeavour
21:41 * magnus_afk   wishes #koha a good night
21:42 wizzyrea       happy time-of-day
21:45 mib_43pche     i have koha installed on a server, over the last couple days mysql have being crashing
22:53 cait           hi #koha