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23:04 Judit morning
21:03 wahanui by proxy! has neutral karma
21:03 mbalmer karma by proxy!
21:02 maximep but what's done is done!
21:01 ibeardslee fine .. maximep --
21:01 maximep pfffffff, I don't want pity karma :p
20:59 mbalmer s/thirst/thirsty/
20:59 cait maximep++
20:59 mbalmer eat when you are hungry, drink when you are thirst, program when the time is right.
20:57 maximep probably increased yours jcamins about 20 times with all my questions hehe
20:57 jcamins_away maximep++
20:56 maximep =)
20:56 maximep you have more karma than me!
20:56 * mbalmer hugs maximep
20:56 maximep :(
20:56 huginn maximep: Karma for "maximep" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5.
20:55 maximep @karma maximep
20:52 mbalmer and there is still the weekend ahead.
20:52 mbalmer I know it will take me about 3 hours.
20:51 mbalmer wrong.
20:46 wizzyrea you mean "it's not a priority"
20:39 mbalmer yes, eventually. No hurry..
20:39 jcamins_away mbalmer: get to it!
20:38 mbalmer that reminds me to install Koha on my laptop
20:37 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.3°C (9:35 PM CET on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.41 in 1029.7 hPa (Rising).
20:37 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:37 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 11.0°C (9:30 PM CET on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
20:37 cait @wunder Marseille
20:37 mbalmer APRSWXNET, huginn is crazy..
20:36 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.1°C (1:36 PM PDT on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Falling).
20:36 bag @wunder 93109
20:36 huginn mbalmer: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Bad Sackingen DE, Basel, Switzerland is 9.4°C (9:11 PM CET on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa.
20:36 mbalmer @wunder LSZI
20:36 huginn bag: Karma for "biblibre" has been increased 57 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 57.
20:36 bag @karma biblibre
20:36 huginn cait: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 221 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 220.
20:36 cait @karma jcamins
20:36 huginn bag: Karma for "bywater" has been increased 32 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 32.
20:36 bag @karma bywater
20:36 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found.
20:36 cait @wunder jcamins_away
20:36 huginn bag: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 141 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 140.
20:36 bag @karma druthb
20:36 cait jcamins++
20:36 wizzyrea jcamins++
20:36 huginn mbalmer: downloading the Perl source
20:36 wizzyrea hm. that's not nearly enough
20:36 mbalmer @dogma
20:35 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 11 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 11.
20:35 jcamins_away @karma jcamins_away
20:35 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 219 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 218.
20:35 jcamins_away @karma jcamins
20:35 wahanui jcamins_away has karma of 12
20:35 jcamins_away karma me
20:35 * wizzyrea will have to work harder
20:35 jcamins_away Hehe.
20:35 wahanui bot does not understand c syntax ;) has neutral karma
20:35 mbalmer ok, karma bot does not understand C syntax ;)
20:35 * wizzyrea cedes 3rd place to kf/cait
20:34 huginn mbalmer: Karma for "cait" has been increased 249 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 248.
20:34 mbalmer @karma cait
20:34 cait lots of people gave both nicks - I think addition is not right here :)
20:34 mbalmer cait += 42
20:34 wizzyrea now now
20:34 wizzyrea rofl
20:34 cait wizzyrea++
20:34 huginn mbalmer: Karma for "cait" has been increased 249 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 248.
20:34 mbalmer @karma cait
20:34 mbalmer cait++
20:34 wizzyrea battle of the titans :)
20:34 wizzyrea oooooo
20:33 magnus_afk ooh!
20:33 wahanui 407
20:33 magnus_afk 248 + 159
20:33 * cait IS cheating :)
20:33 wizzyrea I think you're winning :)
20:33 huginn wizzyrea: Karma for "kf" has been increased 159 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 159.
20:33 huginn magnus_afk: Karma for "kf" has been increased 159 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 159.
20:33 wizzyrea @karma kf
20:33 magnus_afk @karma kf
20:33 huginn cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 248 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 247.
20:33 cait @karma cait
20:33 * wizzyrea nods
20:33 mbalmer I just know "I am sorry, my karma just ran over your dogma"
20:33 magnus_afk yay!
20:33 huginn magnus_afk: Karma for "magnuse" has been increased 142 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 142.
20:33 magnus_afk @karma magnuse
20:32 huginn wizzyrea: Highest karma: "rangi" (528), "oleonard" (459), and "wizzyrea" (314). Lowest karma: "<!" (-109), "failed" (-73), and "-" (-43). You (wizzyrea) are ranked 3 out of 1982.
20:32 wizzyrea @karma
20:32 huginn magnus_afk: Karma for "mbalmer" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8.
20:32 magnus_afk @karma mbalmer
20:32 mbalmer I did not even know about this karma stuff.
20:32 * wizzyrea looks innocent
20:32 bag wizzyrea: you're cheating :)
20:32 bag sweet MY first ever karma increase :)
20:32 huginn wizzyrea: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28.
20:32 wizzyrea @karma brendan
20:31 huginn bag: Karma for "bag" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
20:31 bag @karma bag
20:31 bag tha's why we all do this…
20:31 magnus_afk bag++
20:31 bag just felt like adding that in :)
20:31 bag gosh I love Koha!!!
20:30 mbalmer welcome to a world of incompatabilities ;)
20:29 mbalmer SIP business is hard
20:11 wizzyrea bye :)
20:11 * oleonard waves goodbye for the evening
20:09 wizzyrea could be
20:09 oleonard perhaps it hid in a poorly-named branch I summarily executed?
20:08 * wizzyrea invokes the "git ate it" clause
20:08 oleonard and if I had code...where did it go?
20:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list
20:08 * oleonard wonders, again, whether he had code at one time for Bug 7257 or whether his screenshot was just a mockup
19:59 wizzyrea now.
19:59 wizzyrea I will not get carpal tunnel no
19:59 wizzyrea crikey.
19:59 wizzyrea oh I love git aliases.
19:57 oleonard Thanks
19:56 wizzyrea oleonard: that's pretty awesome
19:53 wizzyrea tags too?
19:53 wizzyrea I like it, it's cool :)
19:52 wizzyrea must have been one of those things.
19:52 wizzyrea ok I can't make it break again
19:51 cait aren't we all a bit crazy? :)
19:51 * wizzyrea is not sure there's another kind of wizzyrea
19:51 cait oy? :)
19:51 wizzyrea oy.
19:51 wizzyrea haha
19:51 cait I like her crazy
19:51 cait hm
19:51 * oleonard doesn't really want wizzyrea to be crazy
19:51 * wizzyrea clears cookies further back
19:50 wizzyrea which I'm sure will be a relief to you
19:49 wizzyrea hmmm ok, I guess I'm crazy
19:49 wizzyrea doesn't
19:49 * wizzyrea doesn
19:48 Morthland I still have no barcodes
19:48 * wizzyrea clears cookies
19:48 Morthland anyone have any ideas on this,
19:48 wizzyrea and logged out again
19:48 wizzyrea after I had logged in
19:48 wizzyrea the 2nd time I tried it, it worked right.
19:47 wizzyrea hm, interesting
19:47 wizzyrea yep
19:47 wizzyrea ye[
19:47 oleonard wizzyrea: I'm not sure what problem you're seeing. Can you explain?
19:46 cait :)
19:42 wizzyrea lucky I guess.
19:42 wizzyrea yes, I was surprised too
19:42 wizzyrea hehe
19:42 cait heh
19:42 cait ?
19:42 cait it was more like... how did you get those tiles together!
19:42 wizzyrea :)
19:41 huginn wizzyrea: Zealot | Define Zealot at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/zealot>; Zealotry | Define Zealotry at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/zealotry>; zealot - definition of zealot by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/zealot>; Zealots - definition of Zealots by the Free Online Dictionary ...: (2 more messages)
19:41 wizzyrea @google define zealot
19:41 cait wizzyrea: zealot?
19:40 wizzyrea sorry :(
19:40 wizzyrea at least, placing holds from the cart
19:40 wizzyrea also, that looks so nice.
19:40 oleonard *grumble*
19:39 wizzyrea but works as intended when you are logged in
19:39 wizzyrea oleonard: it still shows them as available when you are logged out
19:38 Morthland http://www.screencast.com/users/pnorcross/folders/Default/media/255a8c6e-962f-4699-acd4-32f2a9c43656
19:38 Morthland and then this
19:38 Morthland I'm looking at something like this: http://www.screencast.com/users/pnorcross/folders/Default/media/ca13cb7f-ccd5-4474-9801-47563e730e81
19:37 Morthland how long would that take to fix it?
19:36 wizzyrea there we go.
19:36 oleonard Thanks. git is really bad at merging CSS for some reason
19:36 * wizzyrea will fix
19:36 wizzyrea no biggie
19:36 wizzyrea looks like whitespace
19:35 Morthland would that do it like a minute from now?
19:35 wizzyrea yep
19:35 Morthland total rookie.
19:35 oleonard wizzyrea: Huh, that was fast :P
19:35 Morthland ?
19:35 Morthland something like that work
19:35 Morthland 36 2 14 3 * rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z
19:35 wizzyrea in opac.css
19:35 cait oleonard: lots of ideas for marseille? :)
19:35 wizzyrea hmmm it thinks there's a merge conflict
19:34 cait :)
19:33 wizzyrea oooo
19:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7719 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Change state of controls based on whether boxes are checked
19:33 * oleonard is excited to show off Bug 7719
19:31 wizzyrea also this*
19:31 wizzyrea aksi tgus
19:31 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/?qa_faqs=added-rebuild_zebra-pl-b-a-z-crontab-however-entries-indexed-found-reindex-time-rebuild_zebra-pl-b-a-r-whats-wrong
19:30 wizzyrea git or standard install?
19:29 Morthland where is rebuild_zebra.pl?
19:29 wizzyrea I forget what the default interval is
19:29 wizzyrea and wait for it's interval
19:29 wizzyrea you could also just uncomment the rebuild_zebra line, if it's in there
19:29 Morthland ok
19:29 Morthland Everything in chron is commented out
19:29 wizzyrea yes
19:29 Morthland as a terminal command?
19:28 wizzyrea yup, sounds like at the very least you'll need to run a rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z
19:28 Morthland I see not much of anything
19:26 wizzyrea you'll see lots of stuff, actually.
19:26 wizzyrea if your cron is scheduled and set up
19:26 wizzyrea yes
19:26 Morthland as a terminal command?
19:26 wizzyrea you will see a rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z (or somesuch)
19:26 wizzyrea crontab -e
19:25 Morthland How do I check Zebra?
19:23 wizzyrea so that's "normal" for me
19:23 wizzyrea yea, I have 2 items of brown bear that do not have barcodes.
19:23 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/HxFzaNgSZ
19:22 wizzyrea it would show NA
19:22 wizzyrea and if it hasn't been updated since you added the barcode
19:22 wizzyrea because I tihnk that uses the zebra indexes to search
19:22 wizzyrea I wonder if your zebra cron is running
19:22 wizzyrea I get some of those too... but i'll have to check and see if it's because they really don't have barcodes.
19:21 Morthland 3.02
19:21 wizzyrea what version are you using?
19:21 Morthland http://www.screencast.com/users/pnorcross/folders/Default/media/3cadcd85-11a0-46fd-9221-b4899a04db32
19:21 wizzyrea oops
19:20 wahanui oleonard: I forgot empty lines
19:20 oleonard wahanui: forget empty lines
19:18 Morthland Let me show you what I mean
19:17 wizzyrea space on the front: http://screencast.com/t/xsSXnF12k
19:17 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/5Le9Y2FAtFz
19:16 wahanui empty lines are fine.
19:16 Morthland what are empty lines?
19:16 wizzyrea empty lines are fine.
19:16 wizzyrea and really, only spaces on the front
19:15 wizzyrea will break it
19:15 wizzyrea or an empty line in the list
19:15 wizzyrea front
19:15 wizzyrea spaces on the fron
19:15 wizzyrea however
19:15 wizzyrea mm no, I just tried it with spaces on the end. it seems to work
19:14 Morthland because that's possible.
19:14 slef biab
19:14 Morthland Would spaces on the end break it,
19:14 Morthland they show up in catalog.
19:14 Morthland yup,
19:13 Morthland let me try it
19:13 wizzyrea can you search for your books in the catalog?
19:13 wizzyrea maybe they're not indexed?
19:13 wizzyrea spaces on the end?
19:12 Morthland well, when I am actually adding them to a batch it says NA
19:11 wizzyrea maybe try creating a new layout.
19:11 wizzyrea Morthland: how did you change it
19:11 slef rangi: I am. I must be blind :(
19:11 slef oleonard: sounds like something git rebase can do
19:11 magnuse oleonard: sounds like it would be handy to make a shortcut for git rebase -i HEAD~2
19:10 rangi Look in items.pm
19:10 slef do I really have to do SimpleSearch followed by GetBiblioItemData? I thought I had an easier way once upon a time :-/
19:09 Morthland Changed it back.
19:09 Morthland I had.
19:09 wizzyrea did you change your layout?
19:08 Morthland under barcode it shows:NA
19:08 Morthland but when I go to add them to a batch,
19:08 Morthland My items have barcodes
19:08 wizzyrea Morthland: I'm not clear on what your issue actually is
19:07 Morthland Anybody know about this barcode issue?
19:07 oleonard Is there a shortcut to immediately squash a new commit into the previous one?
19:07 cait you should :)
19:07 slef I really should book a hotel before you take them all :)
19:07 * slef returns to stumbling around the API looking for this callnumber->barcode method
19:07 rangi Me too
19:07 cait slef: booked flight and hotel for scotland now :)
19:06 rangi Slef: Olwen did most of it she lurks on the list still
19:06 slef (later = days not hours)
19:06 slef rangi: might talk to you about it later, depending if they come back.
19:06 magnuse yay, i learned my history lesson :-)
19:06 rangi Or might explode
19:05 cait :)
19:05 rangi Yep
19:05 magnuse and c4 is twice as good?
19:05 magnuse c2 is what hlt had before koha?
19:05 rangi It's or was a pick based system
19:04 rangi Yep 13, years ago
19:04 Morthland but when I make a batch in label maker, they do not show up
19:04 slef rangi: yeah I know I know, need to do that within 7 days.
19:04 rangi Oh hey slef call for papers?
19:04 Morthland They are there on the items
19:04 Morthland My barcodes no longer show up in print.
19:04 slef rangi: by the way, have you got experience getting data out of C2? ;)
19:03 slef (we could do with an authority file...)
19:03 slef I'll get the right jargon eventually :)
19:03 wahanui i heard call number was in the location
19:03 wizzyrea call number?
19:03 slef callnumber
19:03 slef shelfmark
19:03 cait what is a classmark?
19:02 slef I think I'm being dense. What's the quickest way in C4 calls to get (a) barcode(s) for a classmark (ideally checked-in)?
19:01 slef morning
19:01 Morthland My barcodes aren't showing up anymore
18:55 magnuse ata marie rangi
18:55 cait morning :)
18:55 rangi Morning
18:51 magnuse run to the hills!
18:51 * jcamins heads back to Forest Hills.
18:50 jcamins Hehe.
18:50 * magnuse wonders if that was irony or not
18:49 maximep soooooooooo much ice. Everything is covered in it. Fuuuuuuun.
18:49 huginn maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -2.0°C (2:41 PM EDT on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: (Rising).
18:49 maximep @wunder cyqb
18:48 oleonard Weird weather.
18:48 wizzyrea *nod*
18:48 magnuse wow, that's *hot*!
18:47 wizzyrea oh boy.
18:47 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Near Free State High, Lawrence, Kansas is 27.8°C (1:46 PM CDT on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 28.80 in 975.2 hPa (Falling).
18:47 wizzyrea @wunder 66049
18:47 huginn wizzyrea: Error: No such location could be found.
18:47 wizzyrea @wunder 66059
18:47 huginn slef: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Dersingham UK, Sculthorpe, United Kingdom is 5.6°C (6:33 PM GMT on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa.
18:47 slef @wunder dersingham
18:46 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 20.0°C (2:12 PM EDT on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa.
18:46 jcamins @wunder 11375
18:46 magnuse ooh, getting better
18:46 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (7:30 PM CET on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
18:46 magnuse @wunder marseille
18:46 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (7:20 PM CET on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
18:46 magnuse @wunder boo
18:45 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 24.0°C (2:40 PM EDT on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady).
18:45 oleonard @wunder 45701
18:45 cait hi #koha
18:45 cait guten abend magnuse
18:44 magnuse guten abend cait
18:40 magnuse kia ora wizzyrea
18:40 wizzyrea hey magnuse
18:40 * magnuse waves
18:39 wizzyrea exploring one or the other of those options.
18:39 wizzyrea a little from column a, a little from column b
18:39 jcamins wizzyrea: I thought you were looking to not show any image at all.
18:39 wizzyrea bless you kind sir
18:39 jcamins wizzyrea: oh, that is on the jquery library.
18:38 wizzyrea this
18:38 wizzyrea ah yes
18:38 oleonard ...I think based on LibraryThing's example?
18:38 wizzyrea http://donum.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=coin
18:38 oleonard wizzyrea: I tested that option when we first implemented book cover images
18:38 * wizzyrea looks at donum.numismatics.org, ah how far we've come.
18:37 wizzyrea or was it just a different no cover image graphic.
18:37 wizzyrea jcamins didn't you do, ages ago, some hack where you showed a different "no cover image" graphic with the title on it for numismatics?
18:36 jcamins Morthland1: if the books are in LC (or whichever database you're looking in), they'll show up.
18:35 slef Morthland1: depends who you are searching, but at least you stand a chance, whereas searching for a blank isbn probably returns nothing doesn't it?
18:34 Morthland1 will that get any more responses?
18:34 * wizzyrea finally got that package install upgraded. Wowie, slick.
18:34 jcamins slef: Thanks.
18:34 slef Morthland1: you could search z39.50 on author/title and import
18:33 Morthland1 is it best just to enter those in in MARC? there's no other way to get the job done, right?
18:33 slef let's see if I get that duplicated commit others are talking about
18:33 * slef tries a git pull
18:33 slef jcamins_away: z39.50 is such a big selling point, I think it's a good argument.
18:33 Morthland1 We have about 5000 books without isbns, etc.
18:32 jcamins There are very few libraries that do original cataloging exclusively.
18:31 jcamins slef: right. That's why I think it should be set to "Allow" by default.
18:31 Morthland1 I'm a total rookie.
18:31 Morthland1 Of course ;)
18:31 slef so if you import lots, you might prefer BiblioAddsAuthorities
18:30 slef IIRC it comes up hard against z39.50 importing :-/
18:30 jcamins Morthland1: in the "Authorities" module. :)
18:30 Morthland1 where can I input authorities?
18:30 slef Morthland1: it says "this is the authoritative spelling of this name"
18:30 jcamins oleonard: I think the framework should work with authorities by default, but maybe have that set to "Allow," since most libraries start out not using it, I think.
18:30 slef Morthland1: stop people cataloguing the same author under 172 slightly different spellings/expansions/transliterations.
18:29 Morthland1 I don't really get what authorities do.
18:29 oleonard Removing the link in the framework is a solution for libraries who don't use authorities (like us)
18:29 slef I think those with good authority files do, and some more would if adding authorities wasn't such an interruption to the workflow
18:28 oleonard jcamins: Maybe the question should be whether the default framework should be designed to work with authorities?
18:28 Morthland1 that a system pref under cataloging?
18:28 jcamins Survey of questionable validity: how many people use Koha with BiblioAddsAuthorities to "Don't allow"?
18:28 jcamins You know, I'm not sure that having it default to "Don't allow" makes so much sense.
18:28 jcamins Morthland1: you probably need to change BiblioAddsAuthorities to "Allow."
18:26 Morthland1 but it won't let me input
18:26 Morthland1 I think it ought to be 100a
18:26 Morthland1 I'm at field 100
18:25 Morthland1 Trying to figure out how to enter in the author name for a book that a z39.50 search doesn't work on.
18:25 Morthland1 Not much.
18:25 wahanui what's up, Morthland1
18:25 Morthland1 Howdy
18:25 jcamins oleonard: true, but if people report them, it's just a matter of time until someone reports a bug you've never encountered before.
18:25 wizzyrea j/k
18:25 wizzyrea AREN'T THEY
18:24 oleonard Yeah, but they're not all in Bugzilla :)
18:24 jcamins oleonard: there are more bugs in C4::Search than any one person could find in a lifetime.
18:21 wizzyrea lol
18:21 oleonard I am frequently surprised to find bugs in Bugzilla I've never seen before. I always think I've seen them all.
18:05 maximep pushed to master rel 3_6. nice!
18:05 * wizzyrea only learned that last week
18:05 maximep oh, cool
18:04 wizzyrea history
18:04 maximep isn't there a log of status changes in bz ?
18:04 oleonard jcamins: That one comes from paul_p
18:04 maximep I really should
18:03 maximep yeah... but I don't have a git clone on my machine
18:03 jcamins oleonard: ooh, that's even better.
18:03 * oleonard was trying "git log --oneline|grep 6598"
18:03 jcamins maximep: git log origin/master | less [wait for command to run] /6598<Enter>n[repeat last as necessary]
18:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6598 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , OPACFineNoRenewals syspreference does not stop user renewing in opac
18:01 maximep trying to understand if bug 6598 is in master or not. The status says Pushed to Master, but there's no comment and not sure if the first or second patch was pushed :S
17:59 wizzyrea brilliant, thx
17:58 jcamins $('.no-image').hide();
17:57 jcamins Not seeing it.
17:57 jcamins Hm.
17:57 wizzyrea ty
17:57 wizzyrea ok cool
17:57 wahanui jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
17:57 jcamins jquery library?
17:57 jcamins I think it's already on the jquery library.
17:57 wizzyrea or is it already shared?
17:57 wizzyrea share the jquery?
17:56 wizzyrea aha
17:56 jcamins Right.
17:56 * jcamins just jQueries the no image thing away.
17:56 wizzyrea it will say "no image" and show your local image
17:56 wizzyrea so, if you get a "no image"
17:56 jcamins wizzyrea: yes, but so will the Amazon cover image.
17:56 wizzyrea in opac and staff?
17:56 wizzyrea and it will display?
17:56 jcamins wizzyrea: sure.
17:55 wizzyrea that's for you jcamin
17:55 wizzyrea you can add an image?
17:55 wizzyrea so if you have say, a local newspaper
17:55 wizzyrea local cover images - they are compatible with the other cover image types
17:09 wizzyrea simple fix, but shouldn't happen.
17:09 wizzyrea and it is *annoying*
17:09 wizzyrea this is what we were seeing
17:09 wizzyrea from the amazon review of that scanner he linked: "My other problem is every so often the scanner will misscan/misread for whatever reason and it won't activate again until I pull the cable from the USB port then re-plug it back in. The booklet doesn't explain this problem at all. I had to do my own troubleshooting which took a few hours."
17:06 dgl-library cheers
17:06 wizzyrea sure, have a good night. :)
17:06 dgl-library will go ahead and buy quality. thanks for the tips again.
17:06 dgl-library thanks so much—I need to sign off now though
17:06 dgl-library I understand
17:05 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot patron
17:05 wizzyrea forget a patron
17:05 wizzyrea for example
17:05 wahanui i heard a patron was already there trying to checkout... can't say to them "oh, sorry, this is on hold for someone else"
17:05 wizzyrea and a patron
17:05 wizzyrea so don't put 31000202002221 in as both an item
17:05 wizzyrea as long as they are unique
17:05 wizzyrea yep
17:05 dgl-library at checkin/out will koha know what's what?
17:05 jcamins dgl-library: you just have to make sure the barcodes are all unique.
17:04 wizzyrea sure, as long as each one is unique
17:04 dgl-library and can we use these barcodes for library card ID numbers as well?
17:04 wizzyrea well it will do checkdigits too, I just don't really recommend using the checkdigit.
17:04 dgl-library doesn't have the Dreaded Checkdigit
17:03 dgl-library so to sum up: honeywell scanner and any kind of barcode as long as it doesn
17:03 jcamins Presumably the replacement is similar, though.
17:02 dgl-library still available, though
17:02 wizzyrea bummer.
17:02 dgl-library http://www.posguys.com/barcode-scanner_3/Honeywell-3800g_752/?src=NT&pn=3800G14-SERKIT1E
17:02 dgl-library according to POSguys.com "The Honeywell 3800g barcode scanner has reached end of life. The Hyperion 1300g is its replacement."
17:01 wizzyrea and they always end up replacing them with the better ones
17:01 wizzyrea I've had libraries buy the cheap ones
17:00 jcamins They make it faster.
17:00 jcamins I like stands.
17:00 dgl-library what about a stand? necessary to prevent damage?
16:59 jcamins dgl-library: I'd be interested to know whether that one requires as much patience as the other CCD scanners I'd tried, but I am not inclined to spend money on it. ;)
16:58 dgl-library but now will try to get a good price on the Honeywell 3800g
16:58 dgl-library jcamins: I only got interested in the contact scanners because this one got consistently good reviews http://www.amazon.com/Handheld-Barcode-Scanner-Manhattan-401517/dp/B002ATOSJ8/
16:57 dgl-library jcamins: quite right.
16:57 jcamins [off] And then they start typing in the barcode numbers by hand. And then you're in trouble, because they aren't barcode scanners, and make lots of mistakes.
16:56 jcamins [off] And 50% of your interns/staff has no patience at all.
16:56 jcamins dgl-library: the contact scanners -- at least the cheap ones -- require a great deal of patience.
16:55 jcamins wizzyrea: It was a lengthy process to figure out that the variety of scanner I bought is the exact same one you just shared. ;)
16:55 wizzyrea cool :)
16:55 jcamins wizzyrea: right.
16:55 jcamins dgl-library: yes. You don't want those.
16:54 wizzyrea ?
16:54 wizzyrea jcamins those are the ones you buy too>
16:54 jcamins I think we spent $140 on it.
16:54 dgl-library have you ever tried one of the contact CCD scanners rather than the laser scanners?
16:54 jcamins That's the one.
16:54 dgl-library was originally going to go with one of the ones with a 4.5-star rating on amazon — $36 or $52
16:54 wizzyrea no idea what it would cost to ship tho
16:53 wizzyrea some as cheap as 132 on the googles
16:53 dgl-library thank you
16:53 wizzyrea (I just googled and picked a product page from some shop. I'm sure they can be found cheaper)
16:52 wizzyrea they're not always that expensive, shop around
16:52 wizzyrea http://www.barcodesinc.com/honeywell/3800g.htm
16:52 wizzyrea these are the ones we buy:
16:52 jcamins dgl-library: I'm trying to find it.
16:52 dgl-library jcamins: I'm all ears
16:52 jcamins There are some in the $150 range that are decent.
16:51 oleonard We will have no excessive jiggling in this library thank you very much
16:51 wizzyrea sadly, yes
16:51 dgl-library thanks
16:51 dgl-library ≤$150 = cheap?
16:51 wizzyrea so we buy ones that are slightly more than 150, let me see if I can find out what they are
16:51 wizzyrea to get it to read
16:51 wizzyrea excessive jiggling
16:50 jcamins This is true.
16:50 wizzyrea slow reads, no reads
16:50 wizzyrea we learned the hard way that the very cheap ones, you get what you pay for.
16:50 dgl-library wizzyrea: any favorite barcode scanners under $150 or so?
16:50 wizzyrea really.
16:50 wizzyrea and koha doesn't care about any of that
16:49 wizzyrea yes. 20k item libraries. it was not fun.
16:49 jcamins As I said, I like checkdigits, but listen to wizzyrea.
16:49 jcamins Ick.
16:49 wizzyrea I have 40 libraries that we've moved into koha, by far the ones that were the most dramatic had checkdigits on their barcodes. We rebarcoded 2 libraries because of it.
16:49 jcamins [off] Hint: they're not.
16:49 jcamins wizzyrea: the benefit of checkdigits is you can have a report to check whether your interns are using the barcode scanner correctly.
16:48 wizzyrea it probably depends on the scanner.
16:48 jcamins wizzyrea: really? Our scanner just read them right out of the box.
16:48 wizzyrea and you lose the manual and the scanner goes stupid
16:47 wizzyrea plus then you have to teach your scanner to read them properly
16:47 wizzyrea yes. yes it is.
16:47 jcamins wizzyrea: really? That's idiotic.
16:47 wizzyrea either you can't get them out properly, or you can't get them in.
16:47 wizzyrea when migrating, checkdigits cause no end of trouble.
16:46 dgl-library still not clear on what a check digit is
16:46 * jcamins tends to be a fan of the checkdigit, but he will defer to wizzyrea on this.
16:46 wizzyrea avoid checkdigits, and make sure your scanner is compatible with whatever you buy
16:46 wizzyrea digit*
16:46 wizzyrea nekls uses 13 digig
16:45 wizzyrea s
16:45 wizzyrea yea, I would probably go for longer numbers over shorter one
16:45 dgl-library jcamins: I'm doing some web searching to see what the standard is… but very little in this country is standardized :)
16:45 wizzyrea oleonard: I was wondering where he came up with that
16:45 wizzyrea right
16:45 dgl-library wizzyrea: so as far as koha is concerned, it doesn't matter
16:44 wahanui oleonard: bugger all, i dunno
16:44 oleonard wahanui: Wha?
16:44 wahanui dgl-library: the xy axis in the trackball is coordinated with the summer solstice
16:44 wizzyrea is 11:43am here
16:44 dgl-library excuse me, perhaps the rest of the world is half an hour off…! :)
16:43 wizzyrea how fun
16:43 wizzyrea oh you're in one of the crazy half hour timezones
16:43 wizzyrea yea no we almost never get people from india this time of day
16:43 dgl-library yes, 10:13pm
16:43 wizzyrea it's the middle of the night I think?
16:43 dgl-library hmm, anyone here from India today?
16:42 jcamins dgl-library: it gives you more options for the future.
16:42 jcamins dgl-library: I'd still recommend trying to adhere to the regional standard.
16:42 wizzyrea koha, however, does not
16:42 wizzyrea some ILS's make you buy specific barcodes
16:42 wizzyrea ^^ though, regional standard... it varies from ILS to ILS
16:42 dgl-library jcamins: we're not going to do any interlibrary loans, it's basically a school library
16:42 jcamins Nor kmkale.
16:42 jcamins Sadly indradg isn't around.
16:42 jcamins dgl-library: the short answer is, you can get whatever kind you want, but it's best to follow the regional standard, whatever that is.
16:41 dgl-library what's a check digit?
16:41 wizzyrea I would stay away from check-digits
16:41 wizzyrea (easily)
16:41 dgl-library no, looking at ordering one from amazon
16:41 wizzyrea (most of them can be programmed to read whatever
16:41 wizzyrea do you have your scanners already?
16:41 jcamins dgl-library: in that case, you'll want to ask what the local standard is for libraries in India.
16:41 wizzyrea sure it's possible.
16:40 dgl-library yes, for the first time ever. and also thought we'd use them on the back of people's ID cards as library-card numbers as well, if that's possible
16:40 wizzyrea first time ever?
16:40 wizzyrea you are just putting them on the books/
16:40 dgl-library India
16:40 jcamins dgl-library: where are you located?
16:40 dgl-library …………No idea…………
16:39 dgl-library We'd like to order some from http://www.budgetlibrarysupplies.com/index_files/Barcode.htm and they need to know the start number, the symbology (Code 39 or Codabar), and if there is a check digit on the labels.
16:39 dgl-library I'd like to ask a question about preprinted barcode labels:
16:39 dgl-library Hi Wizzyrea
16:39 * wizzyrea waves
16:38 dgl-library Hi #koha
16:29 kf timeto leave :) bye all
16:07 reiveune bye
16:02 wizzyrea hrmph.
16:00 slef "There is no keyword named 'statistical'. The legal keyword names are listed here." Well screw you Bugzilla, I won't put any keywords in if you're going to throw nasty red errors at me.
15:58 Morthland allright, thank you slef.
15:56 sekjal out for lunch. back later
15:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6981 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , barcode not incrementing
15:55 slef nah bug 6981 looks like it's for the naked numeric autobarcode not the librarycode version. So I'd report it as a new bug if I were you Morthland
15:54 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6403 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Record local use stats when checking in
15:54 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Creating new "child" category patrons - library not defaulting to the correct branch
15:54 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1 - high, ---, frederic, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug
15:54 slef @query statistical type
15:54 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6403 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Record local use stats when checking in
15:54 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Creating new "child" category patrons - library not defaulting to the correct branch
15:54 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3311 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Statistical reports should error if row and column aren't selected
15:54 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3309 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Deleting authorized values when data exists
15:54 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1 - high, ---, frederic, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug
15:54 slef @query statistical
15:53 Morthland it is similar, but all that is over my head. I just barely got koha deployed
15:52 slef Morthland: see if it's similar to one of those and if not, report it as a new bug?
15:52 jcamins 6981 looks like it might be the one you want.
15:51 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7068 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , autobarcode not working when duplicating patrons
15:51 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6981 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , barcode not incrementing
15:51 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4304 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , autoBarcode should increment from user defind value
15:51 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4175 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , duplicate items does not obey autoBarcode sys pref
15:51 slef @query autobarcode
15:51 huginn slef: No results for "autobarcode librarycode."
15:51 slef @query autobarcode librarycode
15:49 Morthland yes
15:48 slef Morthland: have you already got a MCL12030001?
15:47 Morthland but it only gives me MCL12030001 automatically, never MCL12030002, etc.
15:46 Morthland MCL12030001
15:46 Morthland for example:
15:46 Morthland Librarycode yymm####
15:46 wizzyrea considering how hilarious *we* are, it's no surprise that he's hilarious too.
15:46 Morthland right now I have it set
15:46 Morthland well, I don't suppose we know exactly what we want
15:46 * wizzyrea has seen his database
15:45 slef wizzyrea: or suffer a mental collapse.
15:45 slef Morthland: it depends what you want.
15:45 wizzyrea eventually he'll become sentient
15:45 wizzyrea ;)
15:45 wizzyrea slef: I think of it as making him more human.
15:44 Morthland is it better to input our own?
15:44 slef wizzyrea: I suppose it's not good to teach wahanui abba songs.
15:44 slef Morthland: it works but it is easy to break it or want something more than it offers.
15:43 Morthland I don't get that.
15:43 wahanui OK, slef.
15:43 slef wahanui: FSVO is For Some Values Of
15:43 slef FSVO?
15:43 * wizzyrea nods
15:43 wahanui one of us is crying, One of us is lying in her lonely bed, staring at the ceiling, wishing she was somewhere else instead
15:43 wizzyrea one of us?
15:43 slef Morthland: it works FSVO works.
15:42 wahanui OK, slef.
15:42 slef wahanui: One of us is crying, One of us is lying in her lonely bed, staring at the ceiling, wishing she was somewhere else instead
15:42 Morthland Does the auto-barcode function not actually work?
15:41 mbalmer slef, many thanks
15:40 wahanui slef: I forgot one of us
15:40 slef wahanui: forget one of us
15:40 wahanui i think one of us is lagging. I suspect it's me.
15:40 slef wahanui: one of us?
15:40 wahanui slef: wish i knew
15:40 slef wahanui: are you one of us?
15:40 wahanui the complicated answer is "maybe"
15:40 wizzyrea the complicated answer?
15:40 * wizzyrea thanks chris_n for those little gems in wahanui's database.
15:40 wahanui i heard i was a bot
15:40 slef wahanui: you what?
15:39 jcamins sekjal: right.
15:39 wahanui OK, slef.
15:39 slef wahanui: one of us is lagging. I suspect it's me.
15:39 * wizzyrea giggles more
15:39 wahanui well, the simple answer is "GO FASTER!" or "no"
15:39 slef wizzyrea: the simple answer?
15:39 wahanui simple answer is, like, "GO FASTER!" or "no"
15:39 slef wizzyrea: simple answer?
15:38 sekjal ah, I think I get it... I was trying to format the already formatted reserve date, right? so your change has CanBookBeIssued pass an ISO date, and then has the template use that to format instead
15:38 slef mbalmer: I've had to round-trip sip3 through my office which is :( - I'll let you know when it's ready for download.
15:37 jcamins sekjal: at some point, the format_date() should be entirely removed, of course, but for right now, this ensures that all the code continues to work.
15:35 sekjal jcamins: I appreciate your testing and help. it just wasn't clear to me what I'd missed, and how you fixed it
15:32 jcamins Since it was a one-line fix, I went ahead and did it, and -- I thought -- added a note to that effect.
15:31 jcamins sekjal: it may just have been in the circulation section, but there were a lot of instances of dates not showing up.
15:30 sekjal my patch shouldn't have had any effect outside of circ/circulation.pl
15:30 jcamins sekjal: yeah, but they showed up all over.
15:29 sekjal is it just that the warnings from CanBookBeIssued weren't formatting right anymore?
15:28 sekjal jcamins: only very briefly
15:28 jcamins sekjal: without that line, your patch breaks other parts of Koha. Didn't I note that in the sign off?
15:28 Morthland Thanks.
15:27 wizzyrea :) it's no prob.
15:27 Morthland I am reading the history
15:27 Morthland sorry, I was out.
15:26 wahanui i heard the simple answer was "GO FASTER!" or "no"
15:26 wizzyrea the simple answer?
15:26 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
15:26 wizzyrea the simple answer is also "no"
15:26 sekjal jcamins: your signed off patch on 7444 introduced new changes to C4/Biblio... not sure why
15:26 * chris_n has been doing plenty of that :P
15:26 chris_n haha
15:26 wizzyrea LOL
15:26 wahanui i guess the simple answer is "GO FASTER!"
15:26 wizzyrea the simple answer?
15:25 * wizzyrea giggles
15:25 wahanui well, the complicated answer is "maybe"
15:25 wizzyrea the complicated answer?
15:25 chris_n heh
15:25 wizzyrea love. that.
15:25 wahanui well, the final answer is "hack the code"
15:25 wizzyrea the final answer?
15:25 wizzyrea :) thanks chris_n
15:25 wizzyrea Morthland: did you see that answer for you?
15:25 chris_n the final answer is "hack the code"
15:25 chris_n the complicated answer is "maybe"
15:25 chris_n so the simple answer is "no"
15:24 chris_n the barcodes are scaled (or at least an an attempt is made to scale them) based on the label size
15:24 wizzyrea yes, at least partially
15:24 paul_p (jcamins a question before pushing, because something look strange to me, as the patch is supposed to remove format_date() )
15:24 slef wizzyrea: the statistical patron type (which I had seen) probably means that the code is there, though.
15:24 wizzyrea hey chris_n - Morthland had a question about barcode size in labels - possible to make them bigger?
15:24 chris_n you too wahanui
15:23 wahanui niihau, chris_n
15:23 chris_n wizzyrea: hi
15:23 jcamins Good.
15:23 jcamins Okay.
15:23 paul_p jcamins I haven't, it's just a question !
15:23 wizzyrea slef I think what you are wanting there is probably not existent in koha right now :(
15:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Use T::T date plugin to display dates omnibus
15:23 jcamins paul_p: don't push bug 7444 with your proposed change!
15:23 schuster ah nope.
15:23 wizzyrea can't do that with a patron type
15:23 sekjal jcamins: we set it up so that checking IN an item not checked out could count as statistical usage
15:23 schuster I believe it is documented... statistical gathering only or something like that.
15:23 wizzyrea schuster: he wants to know who had a specific item, not just that the item was looked at
15:22 schuster slef - there is a patron category for checkout but doesn't actually issue it.
15:22 jcamins slef: ByWater did not do a development for that. I was thinking of a discharge statistical thingy that sekjal would know about.
15:22 wizzyrea I think I follow now
15:22 wizzyrea because you want to know who had it
15:21 wizzyrea so you want a statistical *item* that doesn't issue
15:21 sekjal checking out a book to a statistical patron records stat usage, but doesn't actually check anything out. A cleverly disguised error is returned instead
15:21 wizzyrea oh, hm, that's the other way round.
15:20 slef wizzyrea: they want to track which regular patrons read the items, so are looking for a statistical item type.
15:20 jcamins Oh, didn't read too closely.
15:20 * oleonard hadn't heard of that
15:20 sekjal ^^
15:20 wizzyrea return*
15:20 wizzyrea you check out a book to a statistical patron, it counts it but doesn't actually issue the item and you don't have to retur it
15:20 mbalmer they defined a field "FI", fee item, that they send in response 63 to a slightly modified request 64
15:20 wizzyrea slef: I thought there was a statistical patron type for that
15:19 mbalmer ;)
15:19 mbalmer spell "standard"
15:19 wizzyrea Morthland: looks like chris_n isn't around at the moment
15:19 jcamins slef: ByWater did a development for that.
15:19 * slef goes to reply to mbalmer while he waits
15:19 kf mbalmer: it's the problem of every standard I guess
15:19 slef ungh. Is this enh? A feature for reference item readership statistics gathering, where items check themselves back in as soon as they are issued. Or can it be done in Koha already?
15:19 mbalmer yes, I also think every ils does it differently.
15:19 kf not sure how best to achieve that
15:19 kf mbalmer: so maybe... it will have to be done in an extension kind of way...
15:18 kf mbalmer: I fear, that different ils do it differently because there was some demand for that feature
15:18 mbalmer but they do it in a strange way, imo, but still. Need to think if Koha should do the same or do it differently (and probably better)
15:17 Morthland any luck on changing the barcode size
15:17 mbalmer kf, for the record: I just got information from OCLC that they extended the SIP protocol in their sunrise product to actually get fee details.
15:13 kf yes?
15:10 Morthland It is a little small for my reader, as we are printing on Avery 5160 Labels.
15:10 wahanui kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
15:10 mbalmer kf?
15:10 wizzyrea ?
15:10 wizzyrea ping chris_n - is changing the size of the barcodes on the labels possible/
15:09 wizzyrea hmm
15:04 Morthland How do I increase the barcode size on my printed labels?
15:03 sekjal there is already an RFC for this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Add_column_to_biblio_table_for_subtitle_/_remainder_of_title_RFC
15:02 wizzyrea right, they probably would have just put the whole title in the title.
15:02 oleonard The reason it wasn't included originally I think relates to the original non-MARC structure of Koha 1.x
15:01 sekjal anyone know the UNIMARC field/subfield for subtitle?
15:00 wizzyrea more keywords would be AWESOME.
15:00 kf for different things
15:00 kf using more keywords would be cool too
15:00 wizzyrea "htf do I use this thing"
15:00 wizzyrea well and documented
15:00 wizzyrea *nod*
15:00 sekjal just needs to be more thoroughly implemented
14:59 wizzyrea oh they are
14:59 sekjal I think the keyword to marc mappings are still REALLY good code, though
14:59 wizzyrea gotcha
14:59 sekjal wizzyrea: yes, *for it's current level of usage*
14:59 wizzyrea for subtitle?
14:59 sekjal and serials title
14:59 wizzyrea would that eliminate the need for keyword-marc mapping?
14:59 sekjal uniform title is...
14:59 wizzyrea I don't know why the subtitle wasn't included in the first place.
14:58 wizzyrea please please please
14:58 wizzyrea do that
14:58 wizzyrea omg please sekjal
14:58 sekjal I'm filing a new report to add subtitle to the biblio table, since it seems to be in such high demand
14:58 oleonard sekjal: Just a disagreement
14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5596 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , add author to holds to pull report
14:57 sekjal oleonard: sorry if my actions on bug 5596 were inappropriate
14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , More options for AdvancedSearchTypes
14:56 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7661 Followup for resolving moved Record test
14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7699 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Restricted until datepicker broken
14:56 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7031 follow-up typo fix & tab removed
14:56 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7031 Followup: typo
14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7261 enhancement, P4, ---, juan.sieira, Pushed to Master , System Preference to select the first day of week (Sunday or Monday) to use in the calendar (OPAC and Intranet)
14:56 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7031 Follow-up, More options for AdvancedSearchTypes
14:56 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7031 Follow-up: Staff search displays OPAC description instead of the normal description for the authorized values
14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7609 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Improving links to find analytics and volumes when using UseControlnumber
14:56 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Enh 7031: More options for Advanced Search
14:56 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7699: Restricted until datepicker broken
14:56 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7261 follow-up DBRev number
14:56 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7261 Followup to make tests consistent
14:56 jenkins_koha * juan.sieira: Bug 7261 System Preference to select the first day of week
14:56 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7609: Improving links to find analytics and volumes when using UseControlnumber (MARC21)
14:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #655: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/655/
14:47 drojf Guest6234: you can set an enrollment fee at administration-patron categories, maybe that's it
14:42 Guest6234 All my patrons have a default fine of $5, how can I change that?
14:39 fabio_t leaving... see you!
14:38 sturmtruppen ok, understood. bad things!
14:38 jcamins sturmtruppen: yes, because it is incredibly prone to error. The data is stored in MARC, and then copied to other places in Koha. If you modify the database directly using SQL, you *will* break your database.
14:37 Guest6234 thank you
14:37 Guest6234 fantastic
14:37 oleonard Guest6234: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/preferences.pl?tab=cataloguing
14:36 sturmtruppen ok, i can try to fix the command line
14:36 oleonard Guest6234: System preferences -> Cataloging -> DefaultClassificationSource
14:36 Guest6234 but I see no place to set the default.
14:36 sturmtruppen jcamins: do you know why i cannot do that?
14:36 Guest6234 no, it lists all the filing types
14:35 oleonard Guest6234: That page doesn't list anything?
14:35 Guest6234 ?
14:35 jcamins sturmtruppen: you could write a new script, but you can't just insert data using SQL.
14:35 Guest6234 can I do it through MARC, just default it to LCC
14:34 Guest6234 and can't find anything
14:34 jcamins No.
14:34 jcamins sturmtruppen: if it's working in Koha, then your command line is wrong. Unfortunately, I don't know that anyone here does a lot of zoomsh work.
14:34 Guest6234 I am here: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/classsources.pl
14:34 sturmtruppen is it a possibility?
14:34 sturmtruppen i get the data by command line and "filling" the database by a sql
14:33 wizzyrea MARCEdit, probably
14:33 sturmtruppen i have 2000 isbn. how can i insert the data in koha?
14:33 sturmtruppen yes, in koha it's all ok
14:32 jcamins sturmtruppen: it's not working in Koha?
14:32 kf and system preference itemcallnumber
14:32 kf and system preference DefaultClassificationSource
14:31 kf Guest6234: administration > classification sources
14:31 sturmtruppen command line today...
14:31 sturmtruppen zoomsh "connect opac.sbn.it:3950/nopac" "search @attr 1=7 88-11-73896-2" "show 0 1 xml" "quit"
14:31 kf Guest6234: look at administration > classification and filing rules
14:31 kf what did you do before getting it?
14:30 sturmtruppen any idea?
14:30 sturmtruppen i have a timeout error "error: Timeout (ZOOM:10007)".
14:30 Guest6234 How do I set the LCC to be the default organizing method as opposed to the dewey decimal
14:30 oleonard jcamins: Okay, but I don't think there are any desert islands between here and France
14:29 jcamins oleonard: you are allowed to open the package in a travelling emergency. :)
14:29 drojf Peter: just ask
14:29 Peter Howdy, I have a question.
14:28 paul_p ok, in my memory it was longer than 1.5 hours
14:28 oleonard paul_p: 1.5 hours, but we make that trip often so it doesn't concern me
14:27 paul_p hi sturmtruppen
14:27 jcamins (that was several years ago)
14:27 sturmtruppen hi #koha
14:27 jcamins paul_p: huh. I always freak out about traveling, even after crossing the Atlantic... 6 times in one year.
14:27 paul_p oleonard and you have a quite long trip to reach the airport if I remember correctly ? (more than 2 hours)
14:27 * kf panics
14:27 kf and I have a written exam on friday... and will only be back for 6hours before going to marseille
14:27 asaurat when we'll have flying cars without airports, that will be fine (rumors say it should happen in the year 2000)
14:26 paul_p asaurat it depends. Some airports are better than others. For example, I hate CDG -paris-, I like AMSterdam
14:26 kf oleonard: I am not flying this time, but certainly know how you feel
14:26 asaurat :D
14:26 drojf i like flying but every time i sit in a lane i think to myself "that thing is not supposed to be up here"
14:26 asaurat flying is fun, but airports are awful
14:25 oleonard I don't mind flying at all, I just never think I'm going to be ready in time :)
14:25 paul_p taking off, and, a few hours later being in the other side of the world is something I will never find "common" I think !
14:25 kf flying is fun :)
14:25 paul_p taking a plane is still something i'm completly amazed to do !
14:25 asaurat hehe, mehr schokolade essen!!
14:24 kf in person too I mean
14:24 kf asaurat: I feel I am going to like you :P
14:24 paul_p (well, jcamins, not oleonard ;-) )
14:24 asaurat (that's the answer to everything)
14:24 paul_p oleonard no, i'm excited !
14:24 asaurat eat more chocolate
14:24 kf oleonard: you can freak when I started to ask you questions :)
14:24 jcamins paul_p: you don't freak out prior to traveling?
14:24 kf oleonard: take a cookie and calm down
14:23 paul_p customary pre-travel freak-out ???
14:23 kf oleonard: you will be fine
14:23 jcamins oleonard: you should be receiving a package soon. :)
14:23 * oleonard is going into his customary pre-travel freak-out mode
14:23 paul_p H-48H before take off ;-)
14:22 paul_p oleonard do you hear the plane starting to heat his reactors ? ;-)
14:22 kf there is a note field for the subscrption, and the patch adds a general note as sysem preference, removing some hardcoded text
14:21 kf then you go to the serial collection page and create one from there
14:21 kf you need a subscription
14:21 jcamins kf: I can't test it right now, but if you remind me how one does a routing list, I'll try.
14:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7557 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Change hardcoded routing list note into a system preference
14:20 kf bug 7557 - I removed the sign off from rangi when fixing the updatedatabase - should be easy to restest... (I hope it works now)
14:20 drojf thanks jcamins i'll stick to the second version than. looks cooler too :)
14:19 jcamins *QA and push
14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7656 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , "undefined" pop-up message when putting hold on reference item
14:19 jcamins paul_p: you can probably QA and sign off on bug 7656.
14:19 kf that explains
14:19 kf ah
14:18 jcamins It goes through CCL parsing, which is a horrible, horrible thing.
14:18 jcamins drojf: I'd guess that too, but we can't be sure.
14:17 slef np
14:17 drojf jcamins: find the term "long subject" in all fields indexed as "su" i guess?
14:17 jcamins Hehe.
14:17 slef I think it was that you just did /nick and made my client collide with an old query window.
14:17 jcamins I left you a message with huginn a while ago.
14:17 jcamins slef: I did not.
14:17 jcamins drojf: What do you want from this search: "su:long subject"?
14:17 slef jcamins_away: did you just try to message me or did my IRC client randomly error?
14:16 drojf how is the first ambigous?
14:16 jcamins So, second is better.
14:16 jcamins_away The first is highly ambiguous.
14:16 jcamins_away The second is unambiguous.
14:16 hdl1 prefer the second over the first.
14:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #655 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 6 j 21 h ago)
14:15 drojf s/prefer/prefer one/
14:15 drojf zebra question: it appears to me that a search for "q=index:term" does the same as a search for "idx=index&q=term". is there a difference between those two? should i prefer over the other for some reason?
14:08 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7661' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=70dd8d8829a2aea308d7b45a937aacad074d7cb5> / 7661 Followup for resolving moved Record test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=59483744aedf27d01e9e131cf61257a835ce02d5> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7031' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdif
14:08 sekjal paul_p: I'll see what I can do
14:05 paul_p so you're welcomed to QA ;-)
14:05 * paul_p is hungry of some patch to push ;-)
14:05 paul_p hi sekjal I just wrote before you arrived:
14:04 kf paul_p++
14:03 oleonard paul_p++
14:02 * paul_p is hungry of some patch to push ;-)
13:59 fabio_t now I'm quite busy, I will do it soon though
13:58 fabio_t awesome :)
13:56 kf and on next release it will be fixed in the po file
13:56 kf fabio_t: yes
13:51 fabio_t right?
13:51 fabio_t I have to change it at http://translate.koha-community.org/
13:50 kf at the moment
13:50 kf it's the only fix I know at the moemnt
13:50 fabio_t ok
13:50 kf that will sure work
13:50 kf yes
13:50 fabio_t so, kf, best thing would be to replace "l\'iscrizione" with "l iscrizione" or another translated sentence without apostrophes, am I right?
13:41 kf should test that
13:41 kf hmm
13:37 kf else you will have to teach your xslt to translate the codes into descriptions...
13:37 kf not the code
13:36 kf I think the trick is to write the descriotion into the record
13:36 drojf but if i can use authorized values for every marc field i kind of expected it would use them correctly too ;)
13:36 kf we have alibrary using an authorized value list for cataloging of subjects into 653
13:36 kf I think it worked for us
13:36 drojf i know
13:36 drojf yes
13:36 kf pulling from the database
13:36 kf item data is not using xslt
13:35 kf you would have to write the description into the record, not the code
13:35 drojf which is not really what i expected ;)
13:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7379 normal, P3, ---, adrien.saurat, Failed QA , copynumber is displayed 'as is' when linked to autorised values
13:35 drojf i found bug 7379 and 7525 which make me think it is not intended to be working with non-item data at all
13:35 kf I think i tdepends on what you write into the record
13:35 kf I wonder
13:35 drojf yes that is my impression too
13:35 kf yeah
13:35 drojf we use authorized values heavily for biblio data. like curriculum, "niveaustufe" etc
13:35 kf perhaps
13:35 kf hmmm
13:35 kf the xslt looks at the marc record
13:34 kf and no, not so easy I think
13:34 drojf hi kf :)
13:34 kf and hi!
13:34 kf :)
13:34 wahanui hmmm... first question is "What are you trying to do?"
13:34 kf first question?
13:33 drojf is there a way to make xslt view (like MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl) display the "description (opac)" part of an authorized value?
13:31 kf so if you just do nothing it will work - but not in this case
13:31 kf which is the reason it does not break more often
13:30 kf most of the time we use "" around javascript
13:30 kf it doesn't escape ' I think
13:30 kf which will also break the javascript
13:30 kf escaping it with \ will make pootle think - oh I have to escape that = \\
13:29 oleonard So don't escape in Pootle and it will be properly escaped
13:29 kf so not esacping breaks the javascript
13:29 kf because it will escape it again
13:29 kf the problem is you can't use \
13:29 kf it can
13:29 oleonard kf: So Pootle can't handle any string with an apostrophe?
13:27 drojf good day #koha
13:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4883 trivial, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Problem translating \n (newline) with pootle.
13:26 kf see bug 4883
13:26 kf escaping does not work correctly :(
13:26 kf fabio_t: I think the only way to fix it right now is to remove the ' altogether
13:21 fabio_t yes, thanks for reminding
13:21 oleonard fabio_t: Be sure to make the same change to circ-toolbar.inc
13:20 fabio_t oleonard, you were right. I've removed one escape character from italian members-toolbar.inc and now the members' toolbar is displayed fine, and it works as supposed. thanks again, I'm going to understand how to fix it in pootle too
13:15 kf and feature freeze means you will also have to find someone to sign off on it in time... I think
13:15 kf nengard: not sure, but is seems big and there is not a lot of time left
13:10 JesseM Good Morning All!
13:09 nengard me too!!!!
13:09 * oleonard crosses his fingers
13:09 oleonard That's good news
13:09 nengard so I don't know the specifics at this time
13:09 nengard we had a meeting yesterday to get everyone on the same page - and by 'we' I mean others at ByWater :)
13:08 nengard oleonard we're trying to meet the timeline for feature freeze
12:57 oleonard Is there anyone here who can comment on the status of the holds rewrite? I saw a lot of Bugzilla activity yesterday
12:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4883 trivial, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Problem translating \n (newline) with pootle.
12:55 kf bug 4883
12:55 kf fabio_t: probably someone put \' into pootle - but it changes it to \\ which will not work - it's a known problem. best is to avoid \ in general
12:54 kf fabio_t: it's a pootle problem/bug
12:52 oleonard circ-toolbar.inc and members-toolbar.inc
12:52 fabio_t oleonard++
12:52 fabio_t I will try it, thanks
12:51 oleonard Hand-editing the relevant templates would be a temporary fix
12:50 oleonard fabio_t: Although keep in mind I have confirmed the problem in a freshly-generated set of templates so that's not the cause here
12:42 fabio_t good to know that anyway
12:41 fabio_t I didn't know I would have to regenerate localized templates with minor release updates
12:39 fabio_t that double escape it's quite suspicious
12:38 fabio_t :)
12:38 fabio_t but I didn't achieve anything
12:38 fabio_t tried with .../deletemem.pl?borrowernumber=n in firefox bar too
12:38 oleonard That problem sounds familiar to me, but from where I don't remember
12:37 mbalmer tutto bene, niente panico!
12:37 oleonard Double-escaped apostrophe?
12:36 fabio_t yes oleonard, confirm deletion dialog never pops up
12:36 oleonard var is_confirmed = window.confirm(_('Sei sicuro di voler rinnovare l\\'iscrizione di questo utente?'));
12:35 oleonard fabio_t: I can confirm that there is a javascript error on that page when using italian templates
12:35 fabio_t thank you
12:35 fabio_t kf++
12:35 kf there is the command you will need
12:35 kf about installing new languages
12:35 fabio_t mbalmer++
12:35 kf there is a page on the wiki
12:35 fabio_t thanks kf
12:35 fabio_t I'm going to check the wiki and koha.it
12:31 kf fabio_t: koha will only update the english templates - so you have to run a script to take care of any other language.
12:30 kf fabio_t: every time you update koha, you have to regenerate the italian templates
12:29 fabio_t hm no kf, do you mean manually?
12:28 kf fabio_t: did you update your italian frameworks aftre you last update for Koha?
12:27 fabio_t I'm going to show you a screenshot
12:27 fabio_t thanks mbalmer :)
12:26 fabio_t patrons' control panel is different too!
12:26 fabio_t I've just discovered that this doesn't work only when language is switched to "italian"
12:25 fabio_t mbalmer: you've given me a clue
12:20 mbalmer you don't have the "Delete" option in the staff client, under the "More" button?
12:20 fabio_t ?
12:19 fabio_t I can't delete patrons... could you help me
12:19 fabio_t hi there kf
12:18 kf hi fabio_t
12:18 jwagner hello fabio_t
12:14 fabio_t hello #koha!
11:59 kf heh
11:59 mle and how do you escape quotes in IRC/huginn?
11:48 huginn jcamins_away: Error: No closing quotation
11:48 jcamins_away @later tell eythian I think you usw """ to escape quotes in CSV.
10:08 xekhz pvt me, i need to ask a favor
10:08 xekhz anyone from the USA
10:06 mbalmer more meaningful example: http://pastebin.com/9GJXvyAF
10:04 kf morning paul_p
10:03 paul_p good morning xekhz !
09:59 xekhz e onde es ?
09:59 xekhz boas
09:57 mbalmer Bom dia!
09:49 xekhz hello ppl
09:31 mbalmer for thos interested in SIP from Lua: http://pastebin.com/2qDJarfc
09:25 magnuse yay
09:25 mbalmer woohoo, I can talk to Koha from Lua scripts, using SIP.
08:45 magnuse :-)
08:44 kf god morgen magnuse
08:41 kf hi #koha
08:41 magnuse guten morgen kf
08:33 * mbalmer is doing a Lua binding for the new C SIP library
08:21 magnuse bonjour hdl1
08:13 magnuse kia ora francharb and #koha!
08:10 francharb Hello!
08:04 mbalmer g'morning
08:01 paul_p good morning #koha
07:49 * eythian goes home
07:49 cait bbiab
07:49 julian_m hello
07:49 eythian not right now though, flying down south tomorrow morning to do a few hours of "intro to Koha" so that they can test their migration.
07:48 cait time for work
07:48 cait and I meant bug
07:48 eythian ah right. I'll have to have a look.
07:48 cait patron attributes and things, but I am not sure I would be able to find it
07:48 eythian awesome, I think I have enough stuff in there to be prepared for tomorrow.
07:48 cait eythian: there is a but somewhere, were we discussed some of the weirdness
07:36 eythian for now I've changed them to ' but I think next time I'll just produce SQL statements.
07:35 cjh heh more csv fun
07:35 eythian I know far too much about this :)
07:35 eythian there isn't really any reliable CSV spec.
07:35 cait perhaps you can find something there?
07:35 cait I think chris_n made it closer to the CSV spec
07:35 eythian I've tried \" and "" but neither work
07:35 cait I am not sure really
07:34 eythian I dunno why, but I don't want to change the data.
07:34 eythian They just have place names in quote marks sometimes.
07:34 cait eythian: do I want to ask why borrower data would contain "?
07:33 reiveune hello
07:33 cait hm
07:29 eythian when importing borrowers by CSV, and the data contains '"', what escaping method is understood by koha?
07:25 cait hi alex_a :)
07:25 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:04 AM CET on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
07:24 cait @wunder Marseille
07:15 alex_a bonjour
06:26 cait :)
06:26 mtj email sent... and hi cait ! :)
06:17 cait hi mt :)
06:17 cait hi eythian :)
06:17 eythian hi cait
06:16 mtj no probs i assumed so :) ... im gonna mail the dev list
06:15 eythian mtj: no idea, too busy to look into it more at the moment though
06:15 cait good morning #koha
06:13 mtj ... when they are identical ?!?
06:13 mtj i dont understand how those 2 dupe commits can apply, in the same branch *sequentically*
06:11 mtj take a look... -> http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master
06:11 mtj hmm, but they *are* in one branch, the master branch
06:09 eythian it's not too unlikely if they're not all in one branch.
06:08 mtj with the same parent ? hp=aed0d8a63d5005e1c343def9a8ccbd9403ccd4aa
06:08 mtj http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff_plain;h=da920b1da9f2f2895730758659d099245c2e64ba;hp=aed0d8a63d5005e1c343def9a8ccbd9403ccd4aa
06:07 mtj http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff_plain;h=50585c34292b7aabfaabeba0db3f83612f55837e;hp=aed0d8a63d5005e1c343def9a8ccbd9403ccd4aa
06:07 mtj both identical commits... sequentially ?!?
06:06 mtj commit 2 -> http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da920b1da9f2f2895730758659d099245c2e64ba;hp=aed0d8a63d5005e1c343def9a8ccbd9403ccd4aa
06:05 mtj commit 1 -> http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=50585c34292b7aabfaabeba0db3f83612f55837e;hp=aed0d8a63d5005e1c343def9a8ccbd9403ccd4aa
06:05 mtj master branch -> http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master
06:04 mtj im stumped.. they appear to be identical, but have unique sha's and timestamps ?!?
05:53 eythian Otherwise it would be inconsistent itself
05:53 mtj and deleting one of those 2 commits (in my repo) , fixes my problem :/
05:53 eythian I shouldn't think it would.
05:51 mtj and it causing me a merge error, i think?
05:50 mtj 12 hours ago Jonathan Druart Bug 5341: Moves the "save" button to the top of the... new/bug_5341 commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot
05:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5341 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Serial issues improvements
05:50 mtj 11 hours ago Jonathan Druart Bug 5341: Moves the "save" button to the top of the... commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot
05:49 mtj bah, kc.org repo has 2 dupe commits ?
05:32 eythian it's pretty easy for commit IDs to drift.
05:30 mtj ... this also explains why my commit sha's weren't matching last nite with asaurat, too
05:28 eythian (and making sure the server lets you do that)
05:28 eythian by putting + before the branch name.
05:28 eythian you'll need to force it when you push it up to your repo
05:28 eythian cool
05:28 mtj eythian: ta , the 'git-reset --hard origin/master' worked a charm ;)
05:25 eythian oh look, this system has duplicate barcodes too. How does that happen?
05:22 mtj eythian: yep, thats what i was thinking too :)
05:17 eythian probably with --hard if you don't mind losing whatever the change is.
05:17 eythian If you want to make it match up, git reset kc/master
05:17 mtj no probs... i'm gonna fiddle some more in this one
05:17 eythian Presumably your branch is different in some point in its history.
05:17 eythian it's because it was you that put it into the repo.
05:16 mtj committer Mason James <mtj@kohaaloha.com>
05:16 mtj author Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart@biblibre.com>
05:16 eythian I don't know how to make it show that.
05:16 eythian ah
05:16 mtj like this one... http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=head-dev/.git;a=commit;h=32e999d13d039d0bd3c203ce19806ed822bb655e
05:16 eythian define what you mean by committer?
05:15 mtj eythian: hmmm, author != committer ?
05:14 mtj this looks like a nice little 'learning experienc e' for me... :)
05:14 eythian mtj: that's what the Author field is
05:13 mtj hmm, how to get git-log to show 'committer' info too...
05:13 eythian I think commit IDs should only stay the same if the merge is fast-forward. If you've changed anything, the commit IDs will have to change as they include a reference to the parent.
05:12 eythian mtj: maybe a rebase at some stage?
05:11 mtj yeah, i might have done some committer-rename foo on it a while back... no probs
05:10 * bag totally caught
05:10 bag heh sorry I was off looking at pictures of puppies… and then decided to take a break and look in channel… SO I am no help
05:08 bag :P
05:08 bag ummm… try reseting or even just cloning a new branch maybe… But I've got no answer on how it got borked ;)
05:07 bag right I totally see it
05:07 mtj i'm not too sure why that happened... but clearly my repo got borked.. by me ;)
05:07 mtj same commit, but diff commit sha's and diff 'committer' values ?!?
05:07 mtj with ...http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=head-dev/.git;a=commit;h=32e999d13d039d0bd3c203ce19806ed822bb655e
05:06 mtj compare http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=9a4873bc4ceba454b99cb440ea1f0b7e09f48e90
05:06 mtj errr , hmm, the commit string is rewritten as me, too - thats wrogn :/
05:06 bag last one is a total guess :D
05:05 bag or what are you comparing… gitweb to your commit numbers? maybe gitweb isnt realtime...
05:04 bag that should clear them all out no?
05:04 bag hmmm… no clue.. did you git reset ?
05:02 mtj yet my commit ids are all different ... wtf? - any explanation peeps :/
05:01 mtj i have got the latest commits from kc.org's repo (thats good) ....
05:01 mtj ive just done a magical 'git fetch origin master' and 'git pull origin master'
05:00 mtj i cant explain why my cloned kc.org repo has *different* commit ids than kc.org
04:59 * Brooke gives Oak a big hug.
04:58 Oak same :)
04:58 Oak good.
04:58 Brooke and you?
04:58 Brooke well enough
04:58 Brooke :D
04:58 Oak O Brooke how art thou?
04:57 mtj a random git Q from me....
04:52 Brooke o/
04:25 bag heya Amit_Gupta
04:05 Oak kia ora #koha
03:34 Amit_Gupta heya bg
02:10 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6572514/Inside-the-red-zone-March-13 <-- first 30 seconds of this has the view inside the Chch central library at the moment.