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23:29 mle even
23:29 mle /away zzZZzz
23:07 eythian it'll never catch on
23:02 mtj well, first i make a nice espresso... :)
22:59 eythian mtj: you program _without_ beer sometimes? How does that work?
22:59 eythian hello Judit1
22:58 rangi sup NateC
22:58 rangi hi Judit1
22:58 mtj wow, beer and programming -> https://www.linux.com/images/stories/brewtarget.png
22:57 Judit1 hi knitta, mtj
22:57 mtj morning Judit
22:54 Space_Librarian morning
22:53 Judit morning
22:40 rangi :)
22:40 jcamins Though, I don't think I'd provide much support for 3.2.x either.
22:39 rangi yours was more diplomatic than mine ;)
22:39 jcamins Makes sense.
22:38 rangi explaining patches should be written for master not specific branches
22:38 jcamins My response was even diplomatic, I think.
22:38 rangi oh ill reply too
22:37 jcamins rangi: I replied already.
22:37 rangi im replying jcamins
22:36 jcamins [off] I didn't say "support," I said "maintained." Based on the fact that 3.2.x hasn't had a release in... 8 months, I would've thought that this was reasonably apparent.
22:35 jcamins [off] Was that unclear?
22:33 mtj the spacing looks ok on the kohacon-12 logo, to me
21:55 wizzyrea hm, that came out wrong-ish.
21:55 wizzyrea that's what they all say.
21:54 * wizzyrea nods sagely
21:52 Space_Librarian lol
21:51 mbalmer scotsman: "nothing is worn, it's all in perfect order!"
21:51 mbalmer "oh, btw, what is worn underneath your kilt?"
21:51 mbalmer reminds me of a joke
21:50 * mbalmer buys a kilt
21:47 mle (I think)
21:47 mle the venue itself
21:47 mle the castle is actually Teviot
21:47 mle /s/thining/thinking even
21:47 Space_Librarian mle - I love the castle. It looks awesome.
21:47 mle well your re-enactment comment got me thining
21:46 mbalmer am looking forward to the event.
21:46 mbalmer great logo.
21:46 mle ; )
21:46 mle ty. well the first was a draft anyhow
21:45 mbalmer mle, way betterer
21:45 mle mbalmer: http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/images/Koha-logo12.png better? (good enough?)
21:39 mib_e754xo allrighty then. Thanks for the help!
21:39 * jcamins runs his own servers.
21:39 jcamins mib_e754xo: I don't know, sorry.
21:38 mib_e754xo can I have a link that forwards to it and disguises the url?
21:38 jcamins That's a little outside the scope of what we can help you with, I think.
21:37 mib_e754xo It does, but we are not hosting the library online, as we host our website through a GoDaddy server
21:37 jcamins Oh, your college doesn't have a website?
21:36 jcamins mib_e754xo: you either have IT set it up on the DNS server (better), or you edit /etc/hosts on every single client.
21:36 mib_e754xo I think we use Google's
21:36 mib_e754xo we don't serve our own DNS.
21:36 mib_e754xo I see.
21:36 mib_e754xo I can do it server side? or do I have to individual fix the hosts file client-side?
21:36 jcamins mib_e754xo: you have campus IT set up the DNS for you.
21:35 jcamins mib_e754xo: you don't do it at the router.
21:35 mib_e754xo how do I configure the DNS, at the router?
21:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7418 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , Add heading flipper script
21:34 jcamins I guess a heading flipper script a la bug 7418 should probably come before handling see-from references in searches.
21:32 jcamins virtual hosts are http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html
21:32 jcamins In Apache.
21:32 mib_e754xo virtual hosts?
21:32 jcamins mib_e754xo: you use DNS and virtual hosts.
21:31 mib_e754xo I am building a library system for my college, and have it deployed on Ubuntu 10.10
21:31 mib_e754xo right now it is 192.168.1.66/opac or something
21:31 mib_e754xo ?
21:31 mib_e754xo How can I doll up the url for the intranet
21:30 jcamins eythian: I rest my case.
21:30 Space_Librarian l337 5p34k
21:29 eythian if you parse it as leet speak
21:29 eythian jcamins: eetesazho
21:29 wizzyrea I do my best.
21:29 jcamins_away mib_e754xo: you should change your nick. I can't pronounce it in my mind. ;)
21:29 eythian wizzyrea: nice understatement there :)
21:29 jcamins_away You need a VPS.
21:29 jcamins_away mib_e754xo: I don't think it can be done, sorry.
21:29 wizzyrea I think that would not go well.
21:28 mib_e754xo Has anyone ever deployed koha on a GoDaddy server?
21:28 jcamins_away mib_e754xo: Debian, Ubuntu, something apt-based.
21:28 mib_e754xo what's the best system, debian?
21:28 jcamins_away mib_e754xo: if you spend enough time, you can make it work, but it'll be very unpleasant.
21:28 Space_Librarian got it. Right, the reason for this people keep emailing us .iso lists from the cart, and it comes up as anonymous - we don't know who they are, and can't follow up with them - is there a way around this?
21:27 jcamins_away mib_e754xo: not easily.
21:27 wizzyrea doable? yes. Advisable? probably not.
21:27 mib_e754xo Is koha deployable on CentOs 5?
21:27 mib_e754xo that didn't do it.
21:22 cait lists is virtualshelves i think
21:22 wizzyrea opacbookbag
21:21 * Space_Librarian looks for bookbag
21:21 wizzyrea yep
21:21 Space_Librarian turn off bookbag?
21:21 mbalmer we should do a tossing the caber session at kohacon12
21:21 mle http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/images/Koha-logo12.png try that then
21:21 * wizzyrea didn't get any
21:21 mib_e754xo Can you turn off lists?
21:21 mle me too
21:21 mbalmer I get ons of errors on that page
21:21 mib_e754xo turn of bookbag
21:20 jcamins_away Space_Librarian: you can, yes.
21:20 mib_e754xo go to admin page for opac
21:20 * wizzyrea looks in the prefs.
21:20 mib_e754xo yes
21:20 wizzyrea I thought so
21:20 mle mbalmer is the kerning better?
21:20 Space_Librarian while you lovely people are making me envious. I really want to go to kohacon... riddle me this. Can one turn the cart option off in the OPAC (silly, I know, but can it be done?)
21:20 * wizzyrea is not an expert
21:20 * wizzyrea thinks it's better
21:20 mbalmer mle, I could re-enact as librarian ;)
21:20 mle pls check for kerning
21:19 mle but re-kerned
21:19 mle wiki errors
21:19 mle re-kerned and mroe errors
21:19 mle http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/File:Koha-logo12.png
21:19 * mle wonders if there is any re-enacting going on
21:19 wizzyrea that would be so awesome.
21:18 cait more amazing
21:18 mbalmer do we have to wear kilts during kohacon2012?
21:18 wizzyrea sounds terrifying.
21:18 mbalmer koha highland games..
21:15 cait hey eythian
21:15 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=lrLNqw0UWQA
21:15 wahanui niihau, eythian
21:15 eythian hi wahanui
21:15 mbalmer tossing the caber is fun.
21:14 wizzyrea oooh, definitely popcorn-worthy
21:14 * wizzyrea looks on youtube for this
21:13 mbalmer rangi, I want to see the loha dev that really tosses the caber 180 degrees...
21:13 * rangi just wants to see caber tossing
21:13 * wizzyrea gets the popcorn
21:12 rangi i vote we toss a caber at ppl who say that
21:12 mbalmer and when we meet in edinburgh, I will tell you that the kerning was bad ;P
21:11 mle : P
21:10 mbalmer one pixel less to the left ;)
21:10 * mle giggles
21:10 mbalmer err, kerning
21:10 mbalmer sure, lerning means life ;)
21:10 * wizzyrea giggles
21:09 mle ; )
21:09 mle dammit kerning is improtant
21:09 mbalmer mle, you know what? in the end this logo is just nice. there is always details to make better, but the software itself is not perfect either ;)
21:09 cait :)
21:09 * mle also wishes that mediawiki woudl accept svg so that others could sort the kerning. : )
21:08 wizzyrea sec
21:08 * mle tries kerning
21:08 wizzyrea oh gee, i used to know
21:08 mle meh
21:08 mle s/it/is
21:08 mle and we don't seem to know what the original font it
21:08 mle the 'k' is too curly
21:07 mle and the new one now looks wrong
21:07 mle i can't replace the 'koha' since the font isnt exact, and i cant find the font
21:07 mle argh
21:07 wizzyrea mbalmer may be more of an expert at it than me though
21:07 mle ty wizzyrea
21:06 wizzyrea well koha is spaced, and it looks like con maybe isn't
21:06 mle i was workign with what i was given
21:06 mle ok
21:06 * mle has been looking at the text for a while now
21:06 mbalmer the distance between the first o and h is to large imo
21:05 mle the 12 or the koha / con?
21:05 mle whcih bit of the text
21:05 * wizzyrea too
21:05 * mle <3 xkcd
21:05 mbalmer mle, well look at the text
21:04 mle : )
21:04 mle i got it
21:04 wizzyrea http://www.xkcd.com/1015/
21:03 * wizzyrea will find it for you
21:03 * mle googles for the xkcd
21:02 mle i dont want bad kerning
21:02 mle can you describe how it could be better?
21:01 mle ok. lets sort it
21:01 mle 20:40 < mbalmer> the kerning is really bad, actually
21:01 mle mbalmer> hmm, the kerning on that logo is wrong.
20:40 mbalmer the kerning is really bad, actually
20:39 * wizzyrea recalls the xkcd
20:39 wizzyrea oh god, bad kerning.
20:39 mbalmer hmm, the kerning on that logo is wrong.
20:39 wizzyrea then there are not enough dollars -> GBP in the budget
20:38 mbalmer wizzyrea, they take GBP, not $$
20:38 * Space_Librarian can't - too far away for work to justify sending me. :(
20:38 * wizzyrea can't, no $$ in the budget :(
20:37 * mbalmer will go
20:37 Space_Librarian bag, me too
20:37 bag I wanna go :(
20:37 mbalmer the kohacon12 logo? definitely deserves a "++"
20:36 wizzyrea mle++
20:36 rangi that logo he made
20:35 mbalmer err, should I also mle++? what's it about?
20:31 Space_Librarian mle++
20:30 Space_Librarian *sighs*
20:28 mbalmer edinburgh rules
20:17 cait mle++
20:17 wizzyrea preeeetttyyyy
20:17 rangi mle++
20:17 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/images/thumb/Koha-logo12.png/800px-Koha-logo12.png
20:16 rangi ohhh
20:16 * cait is already there
20:15 oleonard pretty soon you all are going to have to admit it's a day
20:15 cait have a nice evening oleonard
20:15 * oleonard calls it a day too
20:14 * libsysguy just wrote my first perl crawler :)
20:11 cait :)
20:10 * oleonard suspects now catalogers will complain about how bright red the field labels are :P
20:10 wizzyrea than the old way.
20:10 wizzyrea I like that better, actually
20:08 * wizzyrea signs off
20:08 wizzyrea oleonard: I like it
20:07 oleonard Bye jcamins
20:07 cait you deserve it :)
20:07 jcamins So long, #koha.
20:07 * jcamins decides to call it a day.
20:07 cait oleonard++
20:07 rangi oleonard++
20:05 wizzyrea cool
20:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7670 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , make required fields red in additem.pl
20:05 wizzyrea more signoff.
20:05 oleonard Fixed it in an update to Bug 7670
20:05 * wizzyrea will qa/signoff right now
20:05 oleonard Yes
20:04 wahanui well, bug is always bad news, particularly if you haven't filed it yet.
20:04 wizzyrea bug?
20:04 oleonard Okay, additem validation should now work
19:41 oleonard Hmm... maybe that's not it after all...
19:30 oleonard jquery's each() function seems to hit elements which are display:none, but jquery's eq() function does not :P
19:27 sekjal oleonard: good question
19:25 * oleonard is wondering why we output them at all even if they are display:none
19:25 oleonard Are lines in the add item form for things like "total checkouts" there because the script require that they be submitted even if they are not displayed?
19:22 jcamins Agreed.
19:20 cait or not :)
19:20 jcamins Then you probably did.
19:20 cait i thought i did
19:20 cait me niether
19:20 jcamins I don't recall.
19:20 wizzyrea maybe not
19:20 wizzyrea i thought cait added it
19:20 jcamins wizzyrea: does intranet use results_summary?
19:20 edveal It is Monday. I was trying to make it much harder than it is... LOL
19:19 wizzyrea :)
19:19 edveal Thanks...LOL
19:19 edveal Duuuu
19:19 wizzyrea in your opac or intranet usercss
19:19 jcamins .online_resources { background-color:yellow; } ?
19:18 edveal I am looking to yellow highlight the background of a single line in the detailed display. Specifically the class="results_summary online_resources" Any suggestions?
19:03 wizzyrea yea, mine's doing that too
19:03 wizzyrea oh I SEE
19:03 oleonard In my system, for instance, the script thinks 952 a is at index [0]. It is output to the page at index[8]. so instead of warning me that 952a is empty, it warns me that 952 0 is empty
19:01 * wizzyrea marks more fields required
19:01 wizzyrea mine seems alright...
19:00 wizzyrea you probably don't have jquery customizations on your test server
19:00 oleonard I think because the order in which the fields are generated differs from the order in which they are output in the template
19:00 oleonard It completely misidentifies which fields are mandatory
19:00 wizzyrea define completely broken
18:59 wizzyrea seems like I just looked at a patch for that recently
18:59 wizzyrea !
18:59 cait :(
18:59 oleonard Client side validation of the add item form is completely broken.
18:53 jwagner /quit
18:27 cait oh
18:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7577 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Suggestion show page
18:27 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_7458: Correct existing existing call numbers retrieval
18:27 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7577 follow-up
18:27 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7577: Adds a display page for suggestions
18:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #652: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/652/
18:26 oleonard We don't use acquisitions at all. No vendor data in our database.
18:26 cait that can happen quite easily by accident
18:26 cait that looked like an order to them?
18:26 cait and sent a claim instead of an order?
18:26 cait could it be someone was testing
18:26 * oleonard doesn't want to live in a future in which we were ordering extra copies of Sarah Palin's biography!!
18:25 cait lol
18:25 oleonard Baker & Taylor received an order from us from the future?
18:24 cait and we can't do that even
18:24 cait I think emailing ordersis much more common
18:24 jcamins oleonard: that's my understanding.
18:24 cait oleonard: but means the vendor also has to support edi
18:24 oleonard Wouldn't Koha require EDI support to submit an order directly to a vendor? Is that what EDI does?
18:24 jcamins That is beautiful.
18:23 sekjal jcamins: true enough. though I think this would be more charts and diagrams than code
18:23 oleonard an example of responsive web design: http://stephencaver.com/ Shink your browser window to see it change
18:23 jcamins Well, yes, but without actual code, agreeing on things wouldn't actually help much. ;)
18:22 sekjal we'd have to have a policy in place; no new params within a stable release
18:22 sekjal but agreeing to it, and policing it, would be a community-wide job
18:22 sekjal I can identify what we're currently using, and perhaps what could be added/removed
18:21 jcamins And I think you're just the person to do that!
18:21 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 13.1°C (11:20 AM PDT on March 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
18:21 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 13.1°C (11:20 AM PDT on March 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
18:21 sekjal then we'd be able to make as many templates as we like
18:21 bag hmmm
18:21 bag @wunder 93109
18:21 bag @wunder 93109
18:21 jcamins sekjal: agreed.
18:21 sekjal the big thing I think we need is a consistent set of input and output params on each page
18:20 cait no only for calims
18:20 cait hm
18:20 sekjal jcamins: I've been looking at it, yes
18:20 cait email
18:19 oleonard In what world would Koha submit an order directly to Baker & Taylor?
18:19 jcamins oleonard: wasn't me, because I didn't use Baker and Taylor to ship the fudge. ;)
18:18 sturmtruppen thanks for the info. very nice
18:18 oleonard Very strange mystery here. We got a shipment from Baker & Talor which we didn't order. When we asked why they said that our Koha acquisitions module submitted the order!
18:18 mle http://media.debconf.org/dc7/logo-banner-split1.png
18:18 mle and ripped off from debconf7
18:18 mle inkscape and gimp and some allegedly open source font
18:17 sturmtruppen mle: made with?
18:16 cait no errors for me
18:16 sturmtruppen me too
18:16 cait make a note of the font!
18:16 oleonard I see the errors at the top of the page but the page loads
18:15 sturmtruppen very nice
18:15 mle aww ty
18:15 cait and it's beautiful!
18:15 mle cool
18:15 cait it works for me
18:15 cait ooh
18:15 mle maybe because it is over 50kb? image?
18:15 mle http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/File:Koha-logo12.png
18:15 cait where?
18:15 cait oh
18:14 mle Warning: wfMkdirParents: failed to mkdir "/home/wiki/web/w/images/thumb/archive/20120312180712!Koha-logo12.png" mode 511 in /home/wiki/web/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2179
18:14 mle I broke the wiki. Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: Permission denied in /home/wiki/web/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2176
18:14 mle I broke the wiki.
18:12 jcamins sekjal: working on the mobile interface? :)
18:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1918 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Minify JavaScript and CSS
18:09 oleonard Thinking about load times reminds me of Bug 1918
17:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #652 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 5 j 1 h ago)
17:45 jcamins sekjal: testing with NYTProf, retrieving a single image only takes a few hundred milliseconds, so it's probably not anything about the database.
17:43 jcamins Ah. Right. Foreign keys create indexes.
17:42 oleonard bibliocoverimage_fk1
17:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7458' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7f7aeb138b8275448937102cb7a46cf49530aef> / bug_7458: Correct existing existing call numbers retrieval <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b79faad5ba3bfadf31320cf9ba865a1d4fe5fb1> / Bug 7577 follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0115a8f43ea9b9
17:42 jcamins Hm. You may be right about it not being indexed.
17:41 sekjal but i manually renamed from bibliocoverimage to biblioimages
17:41 sekjal jcamins: it's indexed on mine
17:41 jcamins sekjal: ooh, did I forget to put an index on that?
17:40 sekjal oleonard: do you have indexes on biblioimages.biblionumber in your database?
17:39 jcamins [off] http://lurye.cplibraries.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?&limit=mc-itype,phr:BOOK <-- there's a live server with local covers enabled. oleonard saw 1-3 second download times.
17:39 oleonard sekjal: http://www.screencast.com/t/W6GJEtAIG
17:38 jcamins sekjal: oh, you only have two results?
17:38 sekjal oleonard: it's all purple on both search results I retrieved
17:36 oleonard If I'm not mistaken, sekjal, firebug is taking that into account. The grey part of the graph represents the delay caused by waiting for an available connection, the purple represents time spent processing
17:35 sekjal Windows Host, Ubuntu guest
17:35 jcamins Hm.
17:35 sekjal jcamins: VirtualBox, yes
17:35 jcamins sekjal: are you using VirtualBox or something else?
17:34 sekjal ?
17:34 sekjal oleonard: could it be a limit on the number of images downloadable from a single server at once
17:32 oleonard Hmm... a symptom of a low-resource VM?
17:28 sekjal oleonard: yes
17:28 oleonard sekjal: Are you using Firebug to track the time?
17:28 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ4Iwoo0Kdo
17:27 jcamins I had the same issue as oleonard.
17:27 jcamins That's odd.
17:27 jcamins I mean, that it's only 630ms.
17:27 jcamins sekjal: really?
17:27 sekjal oddly enough, no image found takes just as long as downloading an actual file
17:26 sekjal oleonard: getting about 630ms per search result for image retrieval
17:25 sekjal this test box is wicked clunky..
17:25 sekjal it wasn't running, because my permissions were wrong in koha-dev
17:25 sekjal ah ha
17:24 jcamins sekjal: the solution that I've taken to using when I break my Zebra config is to just rerun make install.
17:24 jcamins And the Zebra server is running?
17:24 mbalmer that's not a lot.
17:24 sekjal not sure why
17:24 sekjal just won't return any results
17:24 jcamins sekjal: how so?
17:23 sekjal ::sigh:: my Zebra search is fried
17:17 sekjal need to reindex, then I'll try a search
17:17 sekjal k
17:17 oleonard It's on the results page that I'm seeing the long delays
17:16 sekjal details
17:15 oleonard sekjal are you testing the search results page?
17:15 sekjal jcamins oleonard: just tried the local images on my test machine. it's loading the image twice, at about 530ms each (entirely on localhost)
17:06 * jcamins has all sorts of projects he'd like to work on like that. ;)
17:04 sekjal true enough...
17:04 jcamins sekjal: that'd be great, but I don't see anyone being interested in funding that.
17:03 sekjal jcamins: arbitrary biblio relationships!
17:00 jcamins I'd kind of like to see the see-from references searched (optionally), so possibly that.
17:00 libsysguy :P
17:00 libsysguy haha…hmm libsysguy is interested in hourly
16:59 jcamins libsysguy: I guess it depends what other people are most interested in.
16:59 jcamins libsysguy: I'm not sure. I have a bunch of enhancements filed in Bugzilla.
16:58 libsysguy what is the next jcamins project?
16:58 libsysguy w00t
16:58 jcamins Pushed.
16:58 libsysguy P
16:58 jcamins Yup. :)
16:58 libsysguy or at least passed
16:58 libsysguy i thought I saw where that got pushed
16:57 jcamins You'll be glad to know that I am not going to be bugging you to test 7284.
16:57 libsysguy hehe
16:57 jcamins Well, welcome back to fun-ness.
16:57 libsysguy thanks jcamins
16:57 libsysguy haha no just a lot of work outside of koha sadly
16:56 jcamins And, welcome back, libsysguy.
16:56 jcamins I thought it had been a while. Vacation?
16:55 huginn jcamins: libsysguy was last seen in #koha 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 42 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <libsysguy> thanks :)
16:55 jcamins @seen libsysguy
16:53 jcamins oleonard: hard to see how, though.
16:53 jcamins oleonard: I guess it's possible.
16:53 * oleonard tried loading a single image with a biblionumber URL parameter to make sure it wasn't cached, those loaded fine
16:52 oleonard jcamins: Could there be some kind of overhead in repeatedly calling the opac-images script which wouldn't be noticeable in a single call?
16:49 mbalmer it is strange that SIP defines a field CG, fee identifier, but now way to list open fees. I wonder if I oversee sth, but I doubt not.
16:48 jcamins That's *really* bizarre. I was going to say "maybe it's an Apache transferring thing, not that there should be any such issue."
16:48 oleonard If I point my browser to the image URL it doesn't take 5 seconds
16:47 jcamins When I ran it with NYTProf, it took 300ms.
16:47 jcamins That's bizarre.
16:47 kf ouch
16:47 oleonard I stripped out all the JavaScript and have the template displaying the image (no JS loading), and the load time is still 5 seconds each
16:46 kf witht he package :)
16:46 jcamins oleonard: yeah, that's really weird.
16:46 kf oleonard: stay away from reiveune !
16:46 oleonard jcamins: I'm still perplexed about the local image load time
16:45 jcamins :)
16:45 * oleonard solemnly swears to share
16:44 jcamins oleonard: you should be receiving a package on Wednesday or Thursday.
16:44 jcamins_away sturmtruppen: if you don't figure out how ISBD works, I don't think you'll be missing out on much. As I said, I don't think it really has any use at this point.
16:22 reiveune bye
15:56 mbalmer extending the protocol was a misnomer. adding a new message and response would be correct.
15:55 mbalmer so it should be safe to add extensions all the more as the ACS only responds to the SC messages, it can not break exisitng installs.
15:54 mbalmer kf, standard does not cover what we need, but standard says "unknown messages must be ignored to be compatible with future extensions"
15:54 huginn kf: ColinC was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 5 days, 3 hours, 16 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <ColinC> And look at their technical stuff I found I knew less after I read it
15:54 kf @seen ColinC
15:53 huginn oleonard: colin was last seen in #koha 1 year, 9 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, 51 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <Colin> Colin Campbell, PTFS Europe Ltd
15:53 oleonard @seen colin
15:53 kf mbalmer: extending the format sounds a bit dangerous - perhaps I would go for standard compliant first
15:53 mbalmer I think I got his email. at least one to try.
15:53 sekjal mbalmer: I don't think so... I don't see his nick
15:52 mbalmer so is colin campbell hanging around here?
15:51 kf mbalmer: ptfs europe
15:48 sekjal mbalmer: colin campbell
15:48 mbalmer to share infos and code?
15:47 mbalmer sekjal, do you know the folks at PTFS or any folks I should contact?
15:47 sekjal it was in the works when I left ByWater... they may have more up to date info
15:47 sturmtruppen For help, please send mail to the webmaster (webmaster@koha), giving this error message and the time and date of the error
15:47 sturmtruppen Syck parser (line 300, column -1): syntax error at /usr/lib/perl5/YAML/Syck.pm line 76, <$fh> line 1.
15:47 sekjal mbalmer: no, I didn't get as far as talking to the 3M people
15:47 sekjal the bulk of the code was written by PTFS-Europe; I tested it, and added some followup modifications based on my client's feedback
15:46 mbalmer do you know any folks at 3M? It looks like I will need to extend the protocol a bit wrt to fee payment.
15:46 sekjal mbalmer: yes
15:45 mbalmer sekjal, you seem to have been involved with the fee paid SIP message, correct?
15:45 matthewboh Thanks so much for the quick answer.
15:45 mbalmer matthewboh, very easy to run them both on the same port (with different hostnames, of cours)
15:45 sekjal you can adjust that however you wish, of course
15:44 sekjal matthewboh: by default, yes, port :80 for OPAC and port :8080 for staff client
15:44 mbalmer when I started this, it ws not my intend to hack the SIP server. But at least, unlike with Sunrise, here it's possible to extend the protocol/server.
15:44 matthewboh Quick question about Koha install - it used to use different ports for OPAC and Staff interface. Is that still the case?
15:43 kf check the manual :) is has instructions
15:43 Shane-S ah okay :P
15:43 schuster self checkout
15:43 schuster Shane-S - yes that sounds like what you need.
15:42 kf Shane-S: web based self check that is
15:42 kf Shane-S: you could look at the self check
15:42 kf Shane-S: changing the timeout is not a good idea - it's the same for staff and opac
15:41 Shane-S is it easy to change the timeout? I want to make a room here where teacher can "checkout" books, and have a kiosk logged in all the time for them to easily scan an ID and checkout all the books/movies they need, would that be hard?
15:38 * mveron Waves back to mbalmer.
15:38 mveron Hi #koha
15:38 * mbalmer waves at mveron
15:37 mbalmer and lba, sekjal seem to have been involved in the Fee paid support in the SIP server
15:36 mbalmer a cool self payment machine would list all individual fees a patron has, and let them select which ones to pay now, and which ones to leave open.
15:34 mbalmer ok, cool, tnx
15:34 oleonard Lori not very often. sekjal often.
15:34 wizzyrea ping lba
15:34 wizzyrea ping sekjal
15:34 mbalmer does Lori Bowen Ayre or Ian Walls hang out in this channel?
15:26 mbalmer that will be some fun
15:26 mbalmer so I need to extend SIP to provide fee detail information and feedback which fees have been paid, which have been canceled etc.
15:21 sturmtruppen jcamins: thanks for the tip! This is a work for the school where i teach but i want to learn to how koha works!
15:20 * jcamins leaves for the post office and Manhattan.
15:19 sturmtruppen because italian opac.sbn.it support unimarc
15:19 jcamins sturmtruppen: you'll probably have to modify the ISBD syspref if you don't like the way it shows up. As I said, though, I'd recommend simply disabling it since it doesn't really have any use as far as I can tell.
15:19 kf and where did you download the record from?
15:19 sturmtruppen unimarc
15:19 kf did you use marc21 or unimarc?
15:19 kf oh
15:19 kf sturmtruppen: perhaps something in your data
15:19 sturmtruppen oleonard: ?
15:18 oleonard sturmtruppen: I don't find that to be the case with the default ISBD configuration
15:18 sturmtruppen "LCCN" display the right isbn
15:17 sturmtruppen the field: "ISBN" display "Milano" instead of "8840813241"
15:17 jcamins sturmtruppen: I recommend simply disabling the ISBD view.
15:17 sturmtruppen after the search, i i choose the label "ISBD"
15:16 kf ?
15:15 sturmtruppen how can i see if is it right?
15:15 sturmtruppen i suppose there is an error in the query
15:15 sturmtruppen in the athoer label, it's right
15:14 sturmtruppen in the ISBD format, the ISBN is wrong,
15:14 oleonard I'm impressed that wahanui knows the exact spelling of "YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEs"
15:14 sturmtruppen another problem for my hero...
15:13 sturmtruppen solved
15:13 sturmtruppen permission problem
15:13 mbalmer the fee paid message has field CG, to identify a specific fee
15:13 kf congratulations :)
15:13 sturmtruppen again: yes
15:13 kf it works?
15:12 sturmtruppen yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
15:12 sturmtruppen sorry....
15:12 wahanui i heard YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEs was the long answer
15:12 sturmtruppen YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEs
15:12 mbalmer s/The/Then/
15:12 mbalmer crap. The I think I need to extend the protocol and inform 3M of that extension
15:10 wizzyrea I believe that's right
15:10 mbalmer hmm, it seem like it is not possible to get fee details via SIP, only the sum of all fees. Is that so?
15:04 maximep he would really like feedback from anyone btw
15:04 sturmtruppen doh'...
15:03 wizzyrea maximep++ thx
15:03 maximep http://www.mail-archive.com/koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org/msg02887.html
15:03 sturmtruppen http://www.galileo.aur.it/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=104
15:03 maximep pretty sure marc boivin from libeo talked about it on the ML
15:03 wizzyrea what's the URL again?
15:02 maximep wizzyrea: css + 2 lines in the header
14:57 sturmtruppen :)
14:57 sturmtruppen i'm suer i'll write here agian fo my failure in it...
14:57 sturmtruppen ok, i'll try.
14:57 kf make your koha user the owner of the zebra files
14:57 kf yeah permissions again
14:55 sturmtruppen my suppose was right, as you suggest, kf
14:55 sturmtruppen zebraidx(23158) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/home/koha/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied]
14:55 wizzyrea if you're about.
14:55 wizzyrea maximep - did you say your mobile solution was CSS only?
14:54 sturmtruppen how can i see who is the user of zebra?
14:54 kf what is your current problem sturmtruppen?
14:53 sturmtruppen nothing for me?
14:52 kf wizzyrea: perhaps we need a configuration option
14:52 kf wizzyrea: I think we should not change it back
14:49 * jcamins hums Fiddler on the Roof.
14:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7619 blocker, P2, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , 3M self checkout don't work in France
14:48 wizzyrea bug 7619
14:47 mbalmer but it's nice to test SIP against it.
14:47 mbalmer yes.
14:47 jcamins mbalmer: better rename it to Sunset.
14:46 mbalmer crap, Sunrise does not respond to a SIP login message, but closes the connection
14:46 francharb ;)
14:46 francharb jcamins++
14:46 francharb paul_p++
14:46 francharb paul_++
14:46 francharb \0/
14:46 jcamins francharb: paul_p tested it on UNIMARC, so it's okay. :)
14:46 mbalmer NEITHERNORMARC
14:46 francharb I should have done it weeks ago
14:45 kf NORMARC
14:45 francharb by the way, jcamins, I still have in mind that you ask me to test your patch
14:45 kf CANMARC
14:45 jcamins Don't forget RUSMARC.
14:45 kf mbalmer: you know, that would be really realyl scary
14:45 jcamins francharb: it's okay, paul_p is going to send me the UNIMARC data from the sandbox later. :)
14:44 francharb jcamins, i'm here but not available
14:44 paul_p ok, meeting time, will be back soon !
14:44 mbalmer USMARC, UNIMARC, MARC21, MARCBALMER, and MARCVERON
14:44 * paul_p wanted to put it on contrib.git repo, but can't do it for now.
14:43 paul_p kf really ? the company is called "MARCs rule the world" ? :D
14:43 kf paul_p: please send it to me too or put it up for download somehwere?
14:43 kf veron
14:43 kf oops
14:43 jcamins paul_p: yes please!
14:43 kf paul_p: marc version works with mbalmer :)
14:42 paul_p jcamins = I can send you the database I use on the sandbox.
14:42 jcamins unimarc data is http://git.biblibre.com/?p=data;a=tree;f=sql/unimarc
14:42 kf oh nice!
14:42 sturmtruppen how can i verify mi idea?
14:42 paul_p kf fortunately, our neibourgh is a NPO, that has a lot of place, and we will have a room here !
14:42 jcamins unimarc data?
14:42 jcamins (for testing)
14:42 sturmtruppen kf... i suppose the problem is the user that own zebra.
14:42 jcamins paul_p: since you're here, do you have more UNIMARC records?
14:42 mbalmer should I bring my friends ? ;)
14:42 kf paul_p: were you able to get another room? :)
14:41 paul_p kf yep ;-)
14:41 wizzyrea holy smokes
14:41 kf 35?
14:41 paul_p a new french librarian coming to the hackfest...
14:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7590 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , Cataloging authorities search result page is broken
14:41 jcamins I will not be signing off on bug 7590. I can't figure out how to reproduce it.
14:38 oleonard Yes, that's datatables wizzyrea
14:37 jcamins francharb: around?
14:36 wizzyrea this is what I mean
14:36 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/5ihsYvNQ
14:36 wizzyrea it is super cool
14:36 wizzyrea is that the datatables stufF?
14:36 wizzyrea hi kf
14:35 kf hi wizzyrea :)
14:35 wizzyrea and even if you have one that is in both, if you set that filter it doesn't work
14:35 wizzyrea it's coming across as "CPLMPL"
14:35 wizzyrea question though, the libraries filter
14:34 wizzyrea Is neat.
14:34 wizzyrea I like that.
14:34 wizzyrea oo, the filtering on holds to pull
14:32 * magnuse waves back too
14:32 * jcamins waves back.
14:28 * wizzyrea waves
14:24 kf oleonard: yep
14:23 oleonard jcamins: Besides the QR code I just see stuff that could have been changed using CSS
14:23 sturmtruppen wait... i till have to start zebra....
14:23 kf sturmtruppen: yay :)
14:22 sturmtruppen he says ok
14:22 sturmtruppen i just run the web installer
14:20 jcamins How as in "what did they change?" not as in "what technique did they use."
14:18 jcamins oleonard: how did they customize the template, though? It looks entirely vanilla.
14:18 magnuse koha needs more <font>s - we all do!
14:17 magnuse woohoo!
14:17 magnuse yeah and i forgot i have a barcode reader on my mobile too :-)
14:17 oleonard Customized templates... I see a <FONT> :P
14:17 * kf was too slow
14:17 kf it's a link
14:17 kf yep
14:17 oleonard ...to that same page :|
14:16 jcamins It's a link to the OPAC.
14:16 kf i can try
14:16 jcamins magnuse: I shall photograph my screen and find out.
14:16 jcamins magnuse: no idea.
14:15 magnuse s/+/?/
14:15 magnuse what happens if you read the code? are you taken to that page in the opac? or something else+
14:14 magnuse ah, thanks - i deleted the email...
14:13 jcamins http://www.galileo.aur.it/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=104
14:13 wahanui magnuse: I forgot link
14:13 magnuse wahanui: forget link
14:13 wahanui i heard link was wrong.
14:13 magnuse link?
14:13 jcamins Ah, interesting.
14:13 kf last tab
14:13 kf items
14:12 magnuse where?
14:11 kf they have qr codes
14:11 magnuse "we changed how it looks"? :-)
14:11 kf but
14:11 kf perhaps that :)
14:11 jcamins As far as I can tell, ther OPAC is almost completely standard.
14:11 kf it looks like css mostly
14:11 jcamins Does anyone have any idea what Paolo means by "the graphical aspect of the Koha OPAC has been reshaped"?
14:08 sturmtruppen ok. i move on
14:08 kf failing the test, ignore it
14:08 sturmtruppen make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255
14:08 sturmtruppen Failed 1/89 test programs. 0/7498 subtests failed.
14:08 sturmtruppen but the "make test" tell me Result: FAIL
14:07 sturmtruppen all ok?
14:07 kf sturmtruppen: all ok then :)
14:07 jcamins_away kf: it can be.
14:06 kf jcamins_away: thought you might now if that is something that can be safely ignored
14:05 Shane-S poop! I wanted SQL to make a Dynamic Title for a report...but alas you can not CONCAT in an AS statement *cries*
14:02 jcamins_away oleonard++
14:02 jcamins_away kf: if you're referring to the Heading_MARC21.t test, I have a bug, and a patch.
14:01 jcamins_away kf: yes.
13:58 Oak ah cool. thanks.
13:58 oleonard But I haven't tried it
13:58 oleonard Oak: This was announced the other day: https://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivedvd/
13:56 Oak uh oh, electricity will go in few minutes...
13:55 Oak guys, you know any good Koha Live cd? I mean the link?
13:49 sturmtruppen sorry, wrong monitor
13:48 sturmtruppen locate mysql_config
13:48 sturmtruppen dev installation, and following the instructions in INSTALL.debian
13:44 sturmtruppen git
13:44 kf jcamins_away: around?
13:44 kf which version?
13:44 kf hmm
13:43 sturmtruppen make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255
13:43 sturmtruppen Failed 1/89 test programs. 0/7498 subtests failed.
13:43 sturmtruppen Result: FAIL
13:43 sturmtruppen Files=89, Tests=7498, 99 wallclock secs ( 4.30 usr 1.74 sys + 61.61 cusr 11.99 csys = 79.64 CPU)
13:43 sturmtruppen Parse errors: Bad plan. You planned 3 tests but ran 1.
13:43 sturmtruppen Non-zero exit status: 255
13:43 sturmtruppen t/Heading_MARC21.t (Wstat: 65280 Tests: 1 Failed: 0)
13:43 sturmtruppen -------------------
13:43 sturmtruppen Test Summary Report
13:42 sturmtruppen not make test or make install
13:41 sturmtruppen but i run only make
13:41 kf before running the webinstaller
13:41 kf you can't have tables
13:41 kf yes
13:40 sturmtruppen is this the same kind of error?
13:40 sturmtruppen DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'koha.marc_subfield_structure' doesn't exist at /home/koha/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Heading/UNIMARC.pm line 69.
13:39 sturmtruppen oh,...
13:39 sturmtruppen yes
13:39 kf because you don't have a populated database
13:39 kf running the db dependent test suite will fail
13:39 kf ah
13:39 sturmtruppen this is one part... make test fails!
13:39 kf have you run the webinstaller?
13:38 sturmtruppen now my problem is DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /home/koha/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 542.
13:38 kf new problem?
13:37 sturmtruppen i changed my problem...
13:37 sturmtruppen hi kf
13:37 kf hi sturmtruppen
13:37 kf the italian library has qr codes
13:37 kf hmm
13:37 sturmtruppen hi #koha
13:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7703 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Don't block bulk hold action on search results if some items can't be placed on hold
13:02 oleonard Bug 7703: New bug report, old pet peeve.
12:36 magnuse yeah jcamins++
12:34 oleonard jcamins_away was a bug-testing machine this weekend.
12:24 paul_p good morning oleonard & jcamins_away
12:20 kf ah cool
12:20 mbalmer we will have a booth as "Koha Support Schweiz"
12:19 kf I think someone from BSZ will probably be there
12:18 mbalmer kf, yes
12:18 kf next week... this time!
12:18 kf morning oleonard :)
12:18 oleonard Hi #koha
12:17 kf will you be there?
12:16 kf hm leaving for a presentation near berlin on 14th
12:15 mbalmer 12.-15. Sept. yes, in the Konzil
12:12 kf do you have a date?
12:12 kf I think it's at the Konzil?
12:12 kf mbalmer: hm I don't hink I will
12:08 mbalmer kf, will you be at the swiss BIS conference in Konstanz?
12:04 sekjal time to head to work. cheers, #koha
12:01 * jcamins heads over to the new apartment to meet the contractors.
11:58 jcamins I should adjust my watch before I go out today.
11:58 jcamins sekjal: oh yeah.
11:57 sekjal jcamins: could be the time-shift
11:56 jcamins Hrm. Doesn't oleonard usually show up on #koha around now?
11:56 * magnuse waves
11:54 jcamins Good morning.
11:54 jcamins (which is for 3.2)
11:54 kf and good morning jared :)
11:54 jcamins kf_lunch: yeah, this question was inspired by the patch I just failed.
11:53 kf_lunch so 3.2 probably
11:53 kf_lunch itseems they also use the old editor for systempreferences
11:53 mbalmer bastards ;)
11:53 kf_lunch yeah
11:53 kf_lunch SearchGlobalBranch.
11:52 kf_lunch Koha:IndependantSuggestions
11:52 mbalmer oh.
11:52 jcamins mbalmer: their FAQ discusses sysprefs that don't exist.
11:50 mbalmer what they do seems perfectly fine to me.
11:50 mbalmer http://www.prosentient.com.au/index.php/intersearch-koha
11:49 mbalmer ;)
11:49 mbalmer then they are in violation of the license and must be sued….
11:48 jcamins They don't appear to.
11:48 mtj afaik... no
11:48 mbalmer do they make the source code available?
11:48 sekjal that's believable
11:47 jcamins sekjal: they seem to have forked Koha 3.2?
11:47 sekjal but I could be wrong; I'm not fully educated on the details
11:47 sekjal my understanding is that they have a fork of Koha they're offering, but they're not being clear that it's a fork
11:46 sekjal jcamins: Australian company, I believe
11:46 jcamins Does anyone know who Prosentient is?
11:44 mbalmer 774 lines of code ;)
11:44 mbalmer swig is a generator
11:43 jcamins There's another option called SWIG, apparently.
11:43 mtj http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XS_(Perl)
11:43 jcamins eXternal Subroutine.
11:43 jcamins I have no idea what XS stands for, but it seems to be pretty consistent.
11:42 mbalmer What does XS stand for?
11:42 jcamins At least, that's my understanding.
11:42 jcamins Right.
11:42 mbalmer Blafoo_XS ?
11:42 mbalmer A Perl module written in C, I mean
11:42 jcamins Pretty common. You just append _XS to the package name.
11:41 sekjal I don't think that it's unheard of
11:41 mbalmer like is done all the time in the Lua community
11:41 sekjal mbalmer: I don't know
11:41 mbalmer is it common in perl to use libraries written in C? i.e. to interface C stuff from Perl?
11:40 jcamins However, it is an intriguing idea. :)
11:40 sekjal morning, jcamins!
11:40 jcamins Good morning, #koha.
11:40 jcamins_away Well, maybe not.
11:40 * jcamins_away was just thinking what he really wanted was a Koha ad-hoc lending network. :P
11:39 sekjal a Perl library for SIP clientry would also allow us to create easy Koha ad-hoc lending networks.
11:38 mbalmer well, my client is written in C (robust/fast) and I have a Lua binding.
11:37 mbalmer For now, I just check if the remote end closed the connection, and if so, I reconnect
11:37 sekjal what I'd like is a clean set of Perl scripts to act as a SIP client, so I can create a web front end for testing and using a SIP connection to Koha
11:36 sekjal there are still some areas of the SIP2 Spec that aren't fully implemented yet, and better exception/error handling would be welcome, but yes, it works pretty well
11:35 mbalmer I managed to connect our POS system to Koha (to pay fees etc.), it is surprisingly stable (unless you send illegal messages)
11:34 mbalmer ok, I see.
11:34 sekjal I worked with it a bit when I was with ByWater, but not since
11:34 sekjal mbalmer: not anymore
11:33 juan_sieira thank Claire
11:33 mbalmer sekjal, are you using SIP?
11:32 clrh juan_sieira: good news for hackfest :)
11:17 mbalmer codifying the while SIP standard is boring.
11:08 mbalmer having a SIP client library surely helps
11:07 sekjal mbalmer: yes please!
11:07 mbalmer I guess it needs some love during the hackfest
11:07 mbalmer our SIP server is not very robust. You send it an illegal message (I did on purpose) and it goes down the abyss.
11:01 sekjal ah ha!
11:01 paul_p sekjal just 12:00 here !
11:00 sekjal (or afternoon... not sure now, since we just time-shifted here in the US)
11:00 sekjal (and good morning to you, as well)
11:00 sekjal not only the new job, but also a conference in Washington DC
11:00 paul_p (good morning)
11:00 sekjal very much so, but circumstances prevent
10:59 paul_p sekjal you want to come ? ;-)
10:59 paul_p sekjal yep
10:59 sekjal paul_p: just to confirm, hackfest is next week?
10:54 paul_p wow... good lunch kf_lunch
10:54 kf and had no breakfast
10:54 kf talking about food... time for lunch here
10:54 kf ;)
10:53 paul_p kf you'll also enjoy the "french cheese" lunch & the lebanon lunch I hope ;-)
10:49 * mbalmer is happy
10:49 mbalmer my SIP C client now is really decoding anything.
10:48 kf you kept the susi and pizza - I am happy
10:48 paul_p now it's 2012 ;-)
10:48 paul_p kf = it was last year menu !
10:47 kf paul_p: you changed the menu :)
10:47 kf that I want to look at / work on
10:46 kf I want to compile a list of things... bugs and patches... hopefully before next week
10:46 kf I think I will see how things work out when there
10:44 paul_p (if you want to)
10:44 paul_p kf I think we will have a lot of ppl for testing/sign-offing. So you can go to the "ergonomy" group for all the week imo.
10:42 mtj mle: my logo is here... -> http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=misc/.git;a=commit;h=1db39909af70c03a2e8998d5ddec02d4cd28e674
10:42 kf oh
10:41 paul_p kf yes, i'm very happy... I hope so, that's why we're looking for an alternate room now.
10:40 kf but hope not too crowded to get work done
10:40 kf which is good
10:40 kf paul_p: wow - getting more every day
10:40 paul_p kf one more coming to the hackfest ( juan_sieira ). We will be 34 (and will try to find a solution to have everybody sitted...)
10:37 * mle cant type this morning
10:34 * sekjal follows mle, only to his own kitchen
10:33 kf ?
10:33 mle ahem
10:33 * mle goes for more coffee
10:33 mle kf. ; )
10:33 mle ack!
10:33 mle i got it ky. ; )
10:33 kf can't find the chat protocol with the link
10:33 kf sorry mle
10:31 mle tyvm for looking
10:30 mtj not the orig. one
10:30 mtj meh, i can only find my vector-from-bitmap version of the logo
10:30 mle tyvm
10:29 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=misc/interface_customization;h=eb21da4676b03c8e21780e36fd74bf4982ebacbd;hb=497e0054b7ac958ca2e70de7a12148671fa1dddd
10:29 mle not yet. first font finder failed
10:29 kf mle: have you checked misc/interface_customization
10:24 mtj wow, i have so many dirs of backup svg files on my lappy
10:23 mle tyvm
10:23 mtj yep, its a pretty generic-ish font :)
10:22 kf not sure... where in the logs... you might want to search around some
10:22 kf and we found one that was similar enough
10:22 kf which helps you find fonts
10:22 kf there is a website
10:22 kf mle: I think it's in the logs
10:22 mle well thats easy then - i get to choose ; )
10:22 mle : ) even
10:21 mle i asked he a while ago too. : 0
10:21 mle hehe
10:21 mtj i asked rach from katipo, she couldn't remember :)
10:21 mtj ive always been curious, myself
10:20 mtj hmm, pass!
10:16 mle mtj what is the font?
10:13 kf mtj++ :)
10:11 mtj i'll take a quick look :)
10:11 mtj the catch is - it's probably traced from a hi-res gif
10:10 mtj mle: i have a koha vector files about somewhere....
09:56 mle ty
09:54 kf I think someone did an svg
09:54 kf mle: I think perhaps ask mtj
09:53 mle so still no joy with finding original koha logo art. I have the jpg. but was hoping for vector art to hack on. last call.
09:24 mbalmer ok, my SIP client decodes all fields, regardless of their order
08:55 mle : )
08:54 kf but htx for offering mle! mle++
08:54 kf not exactly what I did :)
08:54 rangi hmmm
08:54 mle kf has reminded me, if there is anythign I can do here to help your planning let me know and I will see what I can do.
08:53 kf magnus_away: say hi to the little enger baby from us :)
08:46 mle : )
08:46 rangi ohhh
08:46 magnuse and now i gotta run - we're going to do an ultrasound! :-)
08:46 magnuse yup
08:46 mle is it your first baby?
08:45 magnuse nope
08:44 mle yes not a great time to be away!
08:44 magnuse mle: long story short: we're having a baby that is due June 26. ;-)
08:43 wahanui i heard magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
08:43 mle magnuse?
08:43 mle are you busy during Kohacon12?
08:43 magnuse :-)
08:43 rangi sorry magnuse
08:42 * magnuse tries telling himself over and over again "there is no such thing as kohacon12"
08:42 rangi hmm not sure, it might be, its certainly a good price
08:42 mle Is it worth trying to get a group booking for that hotel?
08:41 rangi tea coffee and shortcake .. im sold :)
08:40 rangi oh
08:40 mle Cairn hotel just North of Calton hill. Wonderful place. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Calton_Hill
08:37 kf ah cool
08:37 mle hackfest same venue.
08:37 mle number 5 even
08:37 kf how far from hackfest?
08:37 mle yes the number, caught that yesterday
08:37 rangi or you can catch the number5 bus apparently
08:36 rangi *nod*
08:36 mle 22 minute walk from Teviot/Bristow Sq - Kohacon
08:36 rangi i dont plan to do much more than sleep in it :)
08:36 rangi safe and clean .. thats all i care about
08:35 rangi ohh cool
08:35 mle mixed reviews. only 5 minutes from my new flat. not bad location. i can check it out this week
08:35 mle http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g186525-d192452-Reviews-Cairn_Hotel-Edinburgh_Scotland.html
08:31 rangi it seems not bad, and is only a short bus ride away
08:31 * mle googles
08:31 mle hey kf
08:31 mle nothing off the top of my head rangi
08:31 kf hi mle :)
08:30 rangi what if anything do you know about Cairn Edinburgh Hotel?
08:30 mle : )
08:30 mle hey rangi
08:30 rangi just the person :)
08:30 rangi hi mle
08:29 kf asaurat: I trust you to stop him
08:29 kf lol
08:24 asaurat loll
08:24 wahanui reiveune ate them all
08:24 rangi chocolate?
08:24 reiveune others may be lost during transport :)
08:24 reiveune I see only one
08:23 asaurat haha
08:23 rangi hi clrh
08:23 rangi its in the public log there are 3 bags.... :-)
08:22 clrh hello
08:22 asaurat ok, I won't tell anything ;)
08:22 reiveune asaurat: do not denounce myself immediately please
08:21 rangi heh
08:21 asaurat what's full ? the bag or your stomach ? :D
08:20 reiveune full... for the moment
08:19 kf reiveune: what is the chocolate status?
08:19 kf hi again #koha
08:18 rangi well that mail makes zero sense
08:10 paul_p kf++ (for more 7001 testings)
08:08 gaetan_B good morning !
08:05 wahanui privet, francharb
08:05 francharb hello
08:05 mbalmer I will have to leave on the 11th already
08:04 rangi yup
08:04 mbalmer rangi, speaking about kohacon?
08:01 * rangi has his flights sorted, arrive the 4th, leave on 13th, just hotel to sort out now
08:01 rangi slef: about?
07:54 sophie_m hi #koha
07:53 reiveune bye :)
07:53 cait bbiab
07:53 cait time for work
07:53 cait ok
07:53 cait reiveune: want to fight over chocolate? you are going to loose! heh
07:53 * magnuse shudders at the thought of the wrath of cait
07:52 reiveune me too :-p
07:52 cait reiveune: no lie, I can!
07:51 reiveune cait: ;-)
07:50 cait paul_p: will try to check again later
07:50 paul_p (maybe show it in bold ;-)
07:50 cait reiveune: you better not - I can get really mean!
07:50 paul_p default config, login with test/test, superlibrarian, 1 biblio with 10 items (barcode 1 to 10)
07:50 paul_p cait = [edit] marc21 tiny dataset (1)
07:49 reiveune paul_p: I have yet one week to try to eat them
07:49 magnuse rangi: way to go! ;-)
07:49 magnuse paul_p: yay!
07:49 cait it states that passwords logins will be different for each
07:49 cait paul_p: I didn't find it
07:49 paul_p the good news being that we succedeed to prevent reiveune from eating all of them immediatly ;-)
07:48 paul_p magnuse on, so everything is OK ;-)
07:48 magnuse paul_p: yup: 3 bags
07:48 rangi google ... you're doing it wrong
07:48 rangi screw you and your patches!
07:47 rangi https://plus.google.com/113026104107031516488/posts/ZRdtjTL1MpM <--- thats how you run an opensource project
07:47 paul_p magnuse well, I think it has been open, because it was in a very bad state. Do you confirm there were 3 inside ?
07:46 magnuse paul_p: good to hear it arrived, i was a bit afraid it might get eaten in customs... :-)
07:45 magnuse :-)
07:45 reiveune hi magnuse cait and everybody
07:45 paul_p and thanks for your gift we recieved on friday
07:45 paul_p hi magnuse !
07:45 magnuse bonjour reiveune and paul_p
07:45 paul_p the login is test/test, it should be written on the wiki page
07:44 paul_p cait, just seen your later talk.
07:44 cait good morning paul_p
07:44 paul_p good morning #koha
07:44 reiveune hello
07:37 magnuse Oak
07:36 Oak magnuse
07:31 mbalmer plan for today: finish my SIP library and make the Lua binding.
07:30 alex_a bonjour magnuse
07:30 magnuse hiya alex_a and mbalmer
07:30 magnuse it's mostly the same too, but marc21 hsa some more fields
07:30 mbalmer kohaistas!
07:30 magnuse cait: probably a good idea
07:26 cait and just made it work like for marc21
07:26 cait I trusted jared
07:26 cait nope
07:26 magnuse cait: still wondering about 773 and normarc?
07:25 magnuse guten morgen cait
07:24 cait morning magnuse
07:23 magnuse kia ora #koha!
06:29 eythian and assuming I was looking at the right record, it's pretty boring.
06:29 eythian no, the XML itself is valid.
06:27 cait invalid xml?
06:24 eythian that's good to know.
06:24 eythian hmm, that error seems to only occur if you use marcxml, usmarc works OK.
06:01 cait oh ouch
05:59 eythian So I have zebra saying: "18:54:42-12/03 zebraidx(12254) d016f9b5 [warn] d1: 1: Malformed tag" and bailing out. Anyone know how to deal with that?
05:47 cait heh, ok
05:47 Oak yes you are, if you don't have a headache :)
05:46 cait am I allowed to be awake now? ;)
05:46 cait hi Oak :)
05:46 Oak kia ora #koha
05:46 Oak hello miss cait.
05:44 cait hi eythian :)
05:44 eythian hi cait
05:44 cait goog morning #koha
05:15 eythian (their actual item counts are pretty small though.)
05:14 eythian so one of the smaller libraries I'm converting has one of the largest biblio collections I've dealt with. It's quite strange.
03:55 Space_Librarian good evening all you crazy kids - see ya'll tomorrow. :)
03:30 Amit_Gupta heya bag
03:30 * mtj sprinkles pixie-dust under jcamins pillow...
03:29 jcamins_away Good night.
03:29 jcamins_away Right, bed time
03:29 mtj ah, cheers! :)
03:29 jcamins_away ^^ like that
03:29 mtj ah, thats the new way.. ok :)
03:28 huginn jcamins_away: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011)
03:28 jcamins_away @quote get 135
03:28 huginn jcamins_away: 2 found: #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} -..." and #82: "<pianohack> nengard: If you were using a..."
03:28 jcamins_away @quote search typo
03:28 huginn jcamins_away: No matching quotes were found.
03:28 jcamins_away @quote search variable
03:28 huginn jcamins_away: No matching quotes were found.
03:28 jcamins_away @quote search template
03:28 jcamins_away I think it's like this, though: $template->{VARS}->{'zzzzz'} = 'aaaaa';
03:28 jcamins_away What I just described.
03:28 mtj hmm, wot is that?
03:27 jcamins_away mtj: did you switch to the new variable assignment method?
03:27 mtj ah, ok - i was looking for that , but could'nt find an example :/
03:27 jcamins_away mtj: really? It should just be a hash.
03:27 jcamins_away In the template [% zzzzz %]
03:27 mtj sheesh, even a warn seems to undef the variable :/
03:26 jcamins_away my $foo = $template->{VARS}->{'zzzzz'}
03:26 jcamins_away In Perl?
03:26 mtj but, how do you get the result of variable $template->param( 'zzzzzzzzz' ) ?
03:26 jcamins_away I think it's like this, though: $template->{VARS}->{'zzzzz'} = 'aaaaa';
03:25 jcamins_away Okay, I can't find the quote.
03:25 huginn jcamins_away: I suck
03:25 jcamins_away @quote more
03:25 jcamins_away mtj: no, that's now how we set them anymore.
03:25 mtj $template->param( 'zzzzzzzzz' => 'aaaaaaaaaaaaa');
03:25 huginn jcamins_away: 23 found: #101: "<darling> I still need to catch up with current...", #113: "<jcamins> I merely opened my hands and allowed...", #119: "<wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blaine...", #122: "<member:oleonard>Everyone is doin' the hot new...", #127: "Oracle now has little choice but to abandon its...", #12: "<owen> Every time you check in a book a little...", #143: "rhcl: Blame the C coders; if (3 more messages)
03:25 jcamins_away @quote search tt
03:25 mtj so, heres how you set a template variable... pretty easy..
03:24 mtj man, i have a really stupid template question, but here goes.....
03:10 ibeardslee oh right .. sorted then
03:09 eythian it's easy, if you can look out your window and see the Eiffel tower, you're in France.
03:07 * ibeardslee checks
03:06 eythian unless you're in france
03:06 eythian ibeardslee: marc21
03:06 ibeardslee fresh install .. marc21 or unimarc?
02:46 mtj (there are plans to upgrade the 3.4 real-soon, i'm just going for a quick-fix here)
02:45 mtj my 3.4 problem is def. related to that bug
02:45 rangi (it currently wont be pushed either until its fixed)
02:44 mtj ha, yeah good point... :/
02:44 rangi so cant be what fixed it for 3.6
02:44 mtj and many s/OPACBaseurl/OPACBaseURL/ typos in templete
02:44 rangi thats never been pushed tho
02:43 mtj 'OPACBaseURL' not getting sent thru to ./opac-opensearch.tt correctly
02:43 huginn 04Bug 7307: normal, P3, ---, adrien.saurat, Failed QA , OPACBaseURL not used in opac-search.pl
02:43 mtj http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7307
02:43 mtj jcamins_away: fyi - looks like this was the bug....
02:15 rangi and running 3.6.2
02:15 rangi all self done too :)
02:14 rangi http://41.139.158.198/ another kenyan library goes live with Koha
02:01 Space_Librarian jcamins_away - yay for good fudge!
02:00 mtj ok, a bug search didnt come up with anything obvious.. :/
01:59 jcamins_away I don't remember anything about it, though.
01:59 jcamins_away mtj: yes, I do.
01:58 mtj looks to be busted on 3.4, but fixed on 3.6... ?!?
01:58 mtj meh, anyone recall a weird RSS bug in Koha, where the base_url was not added to the RSS feeds?
01:57 jcamins_away Yay!
01:57 jcamins_away (and I found perfectly good fudge underneath)
01:57 jcamins_away Space_Librarian: interestingly, the seized-up part of the fudge separated from the rest after I'd let it sit for a half hour, and I was able to peel it off.
01:55 * Space_Librarian tries that
01:55 Space_Librarian orly...
01:55 jcamins_away (that's to deal with FF having buggy XHTML handling)
01:55 jcamins_away $('.no-image').html(' ');
01:55 jcamins_away Wait, that won't work.
01:55 jcamins_away $('.no-image').html('');
01:54 jcamins_away Worst-case scenario, use jquery.
01:53 jcamins_away I don't remember how I did that, though.
01:52 Space_Librarian jcamins_away: that's my thought. I need to find it to do something about it
01:52 jcamins_away Space_Librarian: I think you might need to do something so the text doesn't show up.
01:52 rangi could be, i didnt do the css
01:51 Space_Librarian rangi: is the no image text embedded in the css for our opac?
01:51 Space_Librarian ah-ha!
01:50 Space_Librarian delves, even
01:49 * Space_Librarian devkes into the css
01:48 jcamins_away .no-image { width: 50px; height: 80px; }
01:48 jcamins_away That's in the CSS.
01:48 jcamins_away Space_Librarian: you need to change the size as well.
01:47 Space_Librarian So, I've used jcamins_away excellent script to do something about the bookplates, and I'm getting this. http://screencast.com/t/jP4ZlI47 What have I missed?! That is a wee section of the logo in the background, but I can't for the life of me fins what's going wrong.
00:30 cjh cait: thanks for that and good night :)
00:30 Space_Librarian :)
00:30 Space_Librarian night cait
00:30 cait and now :) good night #koha
00:30 cait cjh: it detects the XXX and will update, so you only have to make a little cange in kohaversion - quite easy
00:29 Space_Librarian what? where my response?
00:29 Space_Librarian I love the bot
00:29 Space_Librarian hehehe.
00:29 cait yep
00:27 cjh really? hmm
00:27 cjh sorry havent read the comments yet
00:27 cait cjh: it will work :)
00:27 cait cjh: just put in XXX and increase kohaversion by 1
00:27 cait cjh: that's what I was trying to explain in one of the comments
00:26 cait cjh: you don't need a numbe for local testing :)
00:26 cjh jcamins_away: oops sorry, i often have a number in their for local testing and then forget to remove before making a patch *facepalm*
00:21 cait and now I made a typo and really screwed up
00:21 rangi git am --abort maybe
00:21 cait *sigh*
00:21 cait git am
00:20 rangi halfway through a rebase, or halfway through an apply already?
00:20 cait Dirty index: cannot apply patches..??
00:19 cait that's not good
00:18 jcamins Good night, #koha.
00:18 jcamins And you to go to sleep.
00:18 jcamins Time for me to eat dinner, though.
00:18 jcamins Not sure.
00:18 cait but git status will not show the changed files?
00:18 cait why would my git diff show changes
00:18 cait ok
00:15 eythian *phew*
00:14 mtj eythian: pssttt, your elbonia scoop is safe with me ;)
00:13 cait conspiracy
00:13 jcamins See? Everyone agrees.
00:12 Oak go to sleep.
00:11 Oak :)
00:11 cait lol
00:11 Oak no sleep cait ?
00:09 jcamins Whoops.
00:09 cait *sigh*
00:09 cait ( {... ) }...
00:09 cait but looks good - I made a mistake
00:08 cait tsting
00:08 jcamins cait: did that work?
00:00 mtj thx rangi :)