Time Nick Message 22:41 fabio_t bye all 22:15 magnus_afk g'night #koha! 21:58 eythian_bucklame I knew it! 21:56 wizzyrea you're right, the world *does* revolve around NZ 21:56 wizzyrea hehe 21:56 eythian_bucklame don't count 21:56 eythian_bucklame outliers. 21:56 wizzyrea world clock says it is NOT morning in the UK or here ;) 21:55 eythian_bucklame so far, evidence points to morning everywhere 21:55 wizzyrea *nod* 21:55 eythian_bucklame it's also morning for me. 21:48 Space_Librarian hehehehe. 21:46 wizzyrea you* 21:46 wizzyrea oh I am *sure* it's morning for yOU :) 21:46 * Space_Librarian checks the clock - it's morning for her 21:45 * wizzyrea thinks slef is bluffing about it being morning. 21:45 * wizzyrea checks the world clock 21:45 * wizzyrea looks at the clock 21:29 Space_Librarian morning slef 21:28 slef morning #koha 21:15 * oleonard heads out too 21:15 mveron Oh, it's getting late. Good night. 21:06 fabio_t eythian++ 21:06 fabio_t cait++ 21:06 fabio_t wizzyrea++ 21:06 fabio_t and thanks 21:06 fabio_t bye cait 21:06 cait cya all tomorrow 21:06 cait and about to sleep :) 21:05 cait not much use here 21:05 wizzyrea sorry, I only use MARC21 too 21:05 cait fabio_t: sorry, I am not familiar with the packages or unimarc - and have not followed all of the discussion 21:05 fabio_t any clue? 21:05 fabio_t wizzyrea, cait: what do you think about it? 21:05 fabio_t ok, thank you anyway 21:04 eythian_bucklame (also, I'm not doing koha work today, so can't really look in detail) 21:04 eythian_bucklame however, I'd collect as much information as you can to work out where the issue is, my only ideas are just guessing 21:03 eythian_bucklame fabio_t: worth a shot, it at least gives you somewhere to focus research on 21:03 fabio_t should I open a new bug? 21:03 cait mveron: only not too happy with it like it is now for myself :( 21:02 cait mveron: I can understand 21:02 * mveron Hmm, remembering wat wizzyrea said earlier today about small and big chunks: I would really like to get the age thing sail through as soon as possible. 21:01 eythian_bucklame I don't know then really, never used unimarc. It's possible the packages aren't setting up some path for unimarc correctly, but that's just a guess. 21:01 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_groups_RFC 21:01 eythian_bucklame hmm OK 21:00 fabio_t ...so I did it 21:00 fabio_t it returns sudo koha-create --marcflavor unimarc --create-db kohaauth 21:00 fabio_t just ran history | grep koha-create 20:57 fabio_t ...pathProfile in a zebra configuration file 20:57 fabio_t but I've fixed pathProfile or something in one instance that I didn't installed properly 20:56 cait when I remember correctly what rangi told me 20:56 fabio_t eythian_bucklame: I don't know if I did it for this instance 20:55 cait wizzyrea: I think it's probably much older 20:55 oleonard Liblime took it with them when they took their toys and went home. 20:55 cait I was thinking about have a library with ILL function (to own ill materials) 20:55 mveron Found an explanation here: (for what they do and not do actually, with a text for the manual): http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2011-March/027861.html 20:55 wizzyrea but it never got finished, because the company that was doing it left the community. 20:55 cait like 'non-circulatiing' 20:55 wizzyrea sorry, was supposed to be a 3.2 things 20:55 cait I think it was possible to use groups to express attributes 20:55 wizzyrea yea, it was a 3.0 thing 20:54 cait because it#s a cool idea :) 20:54 cait mveron: I think features that got lost sometime, but should be revoked 20:54 wizzyrea aha 20:54 cait mveron: I think search group swork, but property groups not 20:53 wizzyrea I vaguely wonder why we don't rip them out. 20:53 mveron See: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/basicparams.html#libsgroups, 2.1.3.2. 20:53 mveron wizzyrea: You were right with the Library Property Groups. I mistaked with my tests. I read the manual for Verion 3.6, but there is no explnation what the groups do. 20:53 eythian_bucklame cait: I don't know. fabio_t, did you add '--marcflavor unimarc' when you ran koha-create? 20:52 fabio_t but bibs indexing and searching work 20:52 cait eythian_bucklame: could that be the problem? 20:51 fabio_t UNIMARC 20:51 cait are you using marc21 or unimarc? 20:51 cait I have never seen those index names I think 20:51 fabio_t I've always got those warnings, even if I don't reindex authorities 20:50 cait d 20:50 cait the warnings look really weri 20:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3072 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, 'Heading-Main' authority-index breaks authority searching in STABLE 20:49 fabio_t I thought it could be bug #3072 but I get no results with any option 20:49 eythian_bucklame those warnings look a bit dubious, but I don't really know what they mean 20:47 fabio_t as NPs 20:47 fabio_t I still can't search authorities 20:46 fabio_t no... 20:46 pastebot "fabio_t" at 93.47.33.122 pasted "output of sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v instanceName" (86 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/285 20:46 wizzyrea did it work? 20:42 fabio_t I've just ran sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v myInstanceName 20:41 cait hope I make sense... 20:39 cait only that you are not supposed to change the order lines after ordering and I think that's a first step tomake that happen 20:39 cait oleonard: it is the same field as on the order form - it's not a new field 20:39 cait oleonard: probably automagically copied footnotes? 20:38 cait which I always found a bit weird 20:38 oleonard Notes which I must have added at the time of ordering 20:38 cait in neworderempty 20:38 cait one other thing about the change is, that we copy footnotes into that field 20:38 cait what other notes? 20:37 cait :( 20:37 cait perhaps 20:37 cait I think i only checked basket summary 20:37 cait oleonard: oh 20:37 cait sorry, noticed? 20:37 wizzyrea that would probably be the one that made the problem originally 20:37 oleonard cait, have you noticed that ^^ 20:34 fabio_t hm, I've made many attempts eythian_bucklame... do you need to know the first one? 20:33 oleonard ...but other notes are. 20:33 oleonard Weird... The notes I added via modordernotes.pl are not showing up on parcel.pl 20:32 eythian_bucklame brb meeting 20:32 eythian_bucklame fabio_t: when you ran rebuild_zebra, exactly what was your command? 20:32 fabio_t eheh 20:32 wizzyrea but you do :) 20:32 wizzyrea but I didn't have any direct evidence 20:31 wizzyrea ^^ this was my concern 20:31 eythian_bucklame or rather, on the package managed zebra db 20:31 fabio_t should I change ownership or other rights on some zebra file? 20:31 eythian_bucklame I tend to find that as soon as someone does a sudo rebuild_zebra... it breaks the permissions on the packages. 20:30 fabio_t zebra seems to run fine 20:30 fabio_t hm 20:30 fabio_t k 20:29 wizzyrea i.e. the permissions on the zebradb itself. 20:29 wizzyrea operating system permissions 20:29 fabio_t wizzyrea: you were talking about permissions... what kind of permissions? operative system user (sudoer or not) or staff user permissions set in the backend of Koha? 20:29 wizzyrea you have to do both 20:29 wizzyrea so you can't do just bibs, or just authorities 20:26 eythian_bucklame but it is smart enough to always do usmarc for authorities :) 20:26 * wizzyrea adds that to the wiki 20:26 wizzyrea there you have it, thanks eythian 20:25 eythian_bucklame koha-rebuild-zebra currently only has the ability to do both bibs and authorities at the same time 20:25 * wizzyrea was reading http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages 20:25 wizzyrea process as USMARC rather than default of MARCXML 20:25 fabio_t what does -u stand for? 20:25 wizzyrea for no -x 20:24 wizzyrea or -u -f 20:24 fabio_t I'm giving it a try, thanks 20:24 wizzyrea -u -a -r 20:24 wizzyrea oh 20:24 eythian_bucklame *just do them 20:24 eythian_bucklame I think there's an option to just do thing, will check 20:24 eythian_bucklame yep, authorities too 20:24 eythian_bucklame I'd be very careful doing it the old fashioned way 20:24 wizzyrea authorities too? 20:24 fabio_t :) 20:24 fabio_t so I ran the reindexing in the old fashioned way : 20:23 eythian_bucklame if you just do koha-rebuild-zebra --full instancename, it'll rebuild everything. 20:23 wizzyrea eythian - any thoughts on that one? 20:23 fabio_t it says that -a switch is not compatible with -x 20:22 wizzyrea koha-rebuild-zebra -a -r instancename 20:22 wizzyrea perhaps you need to do 20:22 fabio_t and authority records seem fine 20:22 mtj on the way back to wgtn, from a wedding in ak 20:22 wizzyrea I wonder if it was a problem with permissions 20:22 fabio_t auth_header table isn't empty 20:22 wizzyrea hm, you're using packages 20:21 eythian_bucklame mtj: why on earth would you be there? 20:21 fabio_t but no way 20:21 fabio_t I did rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r 20:21 wizzyrea and they've been indexed? 20:20 fabio_t I can't search authorities in UNIMARC Koha 3.6 packages 20:19 mtj heya fabio_t 20:19 * mtj waves to eythian_bucklame from hamiltr0n 20:19 fabio_t Hi mtj 20:19 mtj morning #koha 20:18 fabio_t Hi 20:15 Space_Librarian o/ 20:10 cait oleonard++ 20:10 cait thank you! 20:10 cait yay 20:10 wizzyrea funny? 20:10 * oleonard will submit a follow-up patch which includes that and other changes 20:10 wizzyrea awesome? 20:10 cait priceless? 20:10 cait oleonard: keep it simple - I like it 20:09 wizzyrea aside: that note is pretty priceless. 20:09 oleonard cait: what about simply giving the note a little space? http://screencast.com/t/eeIE86fWA ...and a proper label? 20:05 mveron Hmm, would propose to stick with system preferences (as longas they "listen" to property groups) 20:03 wizzyrea i would guess so, yes 20:03 mveron wizzyrea: Adding something to the branch definitions would need an additional database field in the branches table, am I right? 20:01 cait but not sure what will work 20:01 cait it didn't feel 'right' to me 20:01 cait thank you :) 20:01 * oleonard got distracted by issues with modordernotes.pl; will look now at basket.tt 19:56 cait oleonard: I think I have changed it in german to 'order' = bestellung 19:55 oleonard wizzyrea: I'd say wait for a detailed error message before spending any more time on it 19:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Constrain new category code field to 2 Characters in categorie.pl 19:54 wizzyrea bug 7624 19:54 wizzyrea does anyone else have an idea on what exactly is going on in 7624? 19:54 * wizzyrea has had the same problem with the word basket 19:53 oleonard I spend twenty minutes looking at acquisitions templates and now the word "basket" looks totally wrong to me. 19:51 wizzyrea yep 19:50 mveron In Home › Administration › Libraries and Groups -> Modify Library? 19:49 wizzyrea if it were me, I'd just add it to the branch definitions. 19:49 wizzyrea or didn't work as expected 19:48 wizzyrea i have never fiddled around with the groups because I assumed they didn't work, because at some point someone told me they were incomplete. 19:48 mveron With two branches belonging to two different Properties Groups I can have different settings. 19:47 wizzyrea maybe gmcharlt can speak to that? 19:47 wizzyrea the groups were never finished afaik 19:47 mveron wizzyrea: About branch settings, am I right that this is done via the group configuration? 19:32 cait was thinking perhaps you had a suggestion 19:32 cait not sure what we could do to make it look good 19:32 cait I think having a popup is not good - because of printing and because you don't see them 19:27 cait 7166 19:27 cait finding the bug number for you 19:27 cait oleonard: sorry, got a phone call 19:22 oleonard what about order notes cait? 19:20 * wizzyrea steps away briefly to fetch lunch. 19:18 cait can bring chocolate? :) 19:18 cait ... 19:18 cait and I wanted to ask you to take a look at order notes 19:18 cait oh 19:17 oleonard :) 19:17 cait oleonard: marseille! squee! 19:17 cait oh 19:17 cait :) 19:15 * oleonard thought maybe it was for polishing off my lunch with such dispatch 19:15 wizzyrea because oleonards make everything better. 19:15 cait oleonard++ 19:02 * mveron Will try to find out where to implement settings per branch 18:59 * mveron _9 could maybe something like "working until 9 PM" 18:57 mveron ^^^Would have to find out how 18:57 wizzyrea but not patrons of the other publics 18:57 mveron Looks nice... New emoticon.. Says "MArc, put your glasses" 18:57 wizzyrea so patrons of a school would be subject to age restrictions 18:56 cait _9? 18:56 wizzyrea per-library 18:56 wizzyrea another way to extend it, would be to make it a per branch setting 18:56 wizzyrea and they may want to do this 18:56 wizzyrea as we are thinking of adding a school 18:56 wizzyrea yup, it will be helpful for us too 18:56 mveron Really ._9 Not only a 3 letter code :-) 18:55 mveron The librarians in our group said that I killed a killer by implementing the function. 18:55 mveron For us it is really very important, because we deal with small and middl public libraris an school libraries. 18:54 mveron I can make it configurable (you mean the field) 18:54 cait and perhaps not so much harder to implement really 18:54 cait but I really think item level would be more flexible 18:54 cait mveron: make the field configurable 18:54 wizzyrea get it? har har har 18:53 wizzyrea lol, fatness is often a problem for big libraries. 18:53 mveron Shoud put my glasses... 18:53 wizzyrea :P 18:53 mveron Sorry, fastness,,, 18:53 mveron And if fatness would be an issue for big libraries, thy do not have to use the function. 18:53 wizzyrea we always find out about performance problems the hard way - by putting it into production and suffering. 18:53 wizzyrea i'd ping sekjal about that sort of thing 18:52 mveron wizzyrea: Hmm, how to test? 18:50 wizzyrea fastness probably being the most important 18:50 mveron a) Fastness, b) Is the field appropriate c) XML extraction 18:49 mveron So we have 3 concerns: 18:49 mveron cait: I know. 18:49 cait not so much of a problme then :) libraries using a different database system can write different reports, it's not built in 18:48 cait mveron: reports are done by each library, and you can configure it 18:47 cait we will have different sections maybe later 18:47 cait mveron: yeah for reporting I think it's ok 18:46 mveron cait: I'm in discussion wit mbalmer about this, regarding postGre . B.T.W. it is used at other places, I found the idea in the Wiki (Reporting) 18:45 cait mveron: hm, I wonder if xml functions are mysql specific 18:43 wizzyrea for fast circ :) 18:43 cait and keep the functionality on item level 18:43 wizzyrea cait++ 18:43 wizzyrea that solves both problems. 18:43 cait use it to preset the value, would make it easy to catalog 18:43 cait wizzyrea: exactly! 18:42 wizzyrea kinda 18:42 wizzyrea like the classification scheme thing. 18:42 cait then you could match the descriptions from field x to descriptions from an authorized value even... 18:42 cait make the field configurable using a syspref 18:42 cait and 18:42 wizzyrea oh yea! that's a great idea 18:42 cait that will fill the restricted field in the items 18:42 cait and make a plugin 18:42 cait use the value in the marc 18:41 cait what you could do 18:41 cait oooh 18:41 wizzyrea under load? 18:41 mveron Hmm, it runs fine on my server. 18:40 cait just came home, sitting in trains all day 18:40 cait sorry, tired 18:39 cait with sql 18:39 cait xml extraction with xml is not so fast in my experience 18:39 cait mveron: I am a bit worried about using tha tmarc field 18:38 mveron cait: In my implementation I did not hae the impression that it is slow. It is just one SQL statement more, it includes the XML extraction. 18:38 wizzyrea circ must not get any slower. 18:38 wizzyrea and we can *not* have slow circ 18:38 mveron I think we should do the one and not forget the other. Some libraries would prefer to restrict on titles, athers to restrict on items. 18:37 cait mveron: item level would be a lot faster 18:37 cait mveron: I think checking marc in circ will make things really slow 18:36 * wizzyrea waits for the "look at all of those tabs!" 18:35 mveron Wow 18:35 wizzyrea you would set those up here: http://screencast.com/t/Z0VHmUwx3adA 18:34 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/3hqXxIl8iXHH 18:34 cait you could do something like 16 (value) = FSK 16 (description) 18:34 wizzyrea in a drop down 18:34 wizzyrea that will show up per item 18:34 wizzyrea you can define restrictions 18:34 cait mveron: still confused? :) 18:34 wizzyrea in the authorized values 18:34 wizzyrea so, mveron 18:34 wizzyrea possibly 18:33 cait except I think we display it now 18:33 wizzyrea rather, overlooked it 18:33 cait but I don't think we do anything with it 18:33 cait it's been there all the time 18:33 * wizzyrea had uh, not seen that one before 18:33 cait 953$5 18:33 cait was looking up the field - you beat me :) 18:33 cait yep 18:33 wizzyrea use restrictions 18:33 wizzyrea oh, $5 18:33 cait the rest is a matter of display 18:33 wizzyrea oh, hm 18:33 mveron I try to follow... 18:33 cait you can have both 18:32 cait not the not for loan one 18:32 cait wizzyrea: it's a separate field 18:32 cait you could make the value the age perhaps, and the description whatever you like 18:32 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 18:32 wizzyrea @quote get 123 18:32 wizzyrea becuse that situation would be impossible with an auth value in not_loan 18:31 wizzyrea ever a chace of having a restricted item that is also not for loan? 18:31 wizzyrea an authorized value might work well there. 18:31 cait wizzyrea: yes, authorized value :) 18:31 cait would have to try, but I think owen(?) did some work on that 18:31 cait and I think the descriptions for the restricted values are already shown on opac now 18:31 wizzyrea oh you mean like a "not for loan" value 18:30 cait it's an item field 18:30 mveron Our librarians asked the same thing. 18:30 wizzyrea seems like a hack to me 18:30 cait i would think restricted 18:30 cait hm 18:30 mveron I pondered about using the public notes field on items. 18:29 cait and with our union catalog schema we would need soomething on item level 18:29 cait I don't think it's actually used for something right now 18:29 * libsysguy runs giggling from wizzyrea 18:29 mveron Hi cait. Yes I do. 18:29 cait iam thinking about hte restricted value 18:29 cait :) 18:29 cait mveron: do you think it could be extended to take a field from items into account? 18:29 libsysguy hehe 18:29 mveron Nobody should complain about age :-) 18:29 * wizzyrea gives libsysguy the stink eye 18:28 wizzyrea WILL HE 18:28 wizzyrea but he won't really 18:28 wizzyrea no, about libsysguy being sarcastic and complaining about your age functionality ;) 18:28 mveron Why? Oh. :-) About the weather... ? 18:28 wizzyrea stop you are giving mveron a heart attack. 18:28 wizzyrea lol 18:28 * libsysguy wonders what he'll be complaining about 18:27 libsysguy ill complain 18:27 wizzyrea (someone else might complain, I can't speak for them) 18:27 wizzyrea (at least not for me) 18:27 wizzyrea (it's not a requirement for your functionality to get in) 18:26 wizzyrea but I think it's worth thinking about 18:26 wizzyrea yep, it can be added later 18:26 mveron wizzyrea: I take this as comment to my comment. We need the functionality urgently. 18:25 wizzyrea later :) 18:25 kivilahtio hmm ok, ill dig into those tomorrow, good night gents 18:24 * wizzyrea imagines a scenario where a kid places a hold on a R rated movie, the item is transited ($$, often), but the kid is denied checkout and the item has to be transited back home (more $$) 18:24 mveron I just commented it. Seems that it would lad to som architectural changes. 18:24 wizzyrea what do you think about adding it to reserves as well? 18:23 wizzyrea me too, that looks really helpful 18:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories 18:23 mveron wizzyrea: I hope my little chunk in Bug 7621 can sail through :-) 18:20 wizzyrea bye :) 18:20 fabio_t Bye! 18:20 wizzyrea and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SubmitingAPatch 18:19 wizzyrea and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_a_pushed_branch 18:19 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches 18:19 wizzyrea and.... 18:19 wizzyrea you are familiar with this eh 18:19 wahanui version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 18:19 wizzyrea version control using git 18:18 * wizzyrea has seen it again and again 18:18 kivilahtio thats some solid advice 18:18 wizzyrea :) 18:18 kivilahtio ok 18:17 wizzyrea little chunks often sail right through 18:17 wizzyrea big chunks often get bogged down in testing. 18:17 kivilahtio so we wont get version locked 18:17 wizzyrea steps are bigger than big chunks in our world 18:17 kivilahtio but it will be important for us to stick to master branch 18:17 wizzyrea yep - submit early, submit often 18:17 kivilahtio to have things running more our way 18:17 kivilahtio we are planning to havea team of 3-4 persons for 1 year to do the migration, setup, extra developments 18:16 kivilahtio dev work wont be an issues if we go OS ILS 18:16 wizzyrea if you're willing to do the work - more power to ya :) 18:16 wizzyrea just thinking about how it could be done *now* and without a bunch of dev work. 18:16 kivilahtio anyway 18:16 wizzyrea i'm not disagreeing with you ^.^ 18:15 kivilahtio and that functionality streamlines Koha use, and gets rid of playing around with gazillion item types 18:15 kivilahtio and what I gather from talks around here, some libraries will definetely be interested 18:15 kivilahtio scratch your back, and get scratched 18:15 wizzyrea sure sure 18:14 kivilahtio you know to work with you guys to find the common ground 18:14 kivilahtio well we would like to have it in master 18:14 wizzyrea :) 18:14 wizzyrea but it is always worth thinking about how to make koha fit in your mad scheme the way it is now 18:14 kivilahtio to define hierarchial relationship 18:14 kivilahtio add a parent column to branches 18:13 wizzyrea I think it might be one of these, and that is *ok* 18:13 kivilahtio what i gather it might take 2 months 18:13 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 18:13 wizzyrea @quote get 123 18:13 kivilahtio and you think adding departments is such a huge issues? 18:13 wizzyrea but I think you're more concerned with *things* and not *people* 18:13 wizzyrea well and patron categories 18:13 wizzyrea you can only base rules on itypes 18:12 wizzyrea i mean 18:12 wizzyrea sure or that 18:12 kivilahtio or shelf locations? 18:12 wizzyrea and only have a few of those? 18:12 wizzyrea use collection codes for searching? 18:12 kivilahtio patrons wont like it, no one will 18:12 kivilahtio you havea agazillion to choose from 18:12 kivilahtio searching* 18:11 kivilahtio what about finding with itemtypes? 18:11 wizzyrea but it might be better than what you're doing now 18:11 wizzyrea sure you end up with a zillion itypes 18:11 wizzyrea per library 18:11 wizzyrea set fines/rules based on those itypes 18:11 wizzyrea childrens - subtype2 18:11 wizzyrea childrens - subtype1 18:11 wizzyrea so have Serials - subtype 18:11 kivilahtio but I feel it's not such a big issues to extend Koha to support departments 18:10 kivilahtio so basically every department is a library of its own, with its own rulesets regardin even how fines are formed 18:10 wizzyrea you can't do this with item types? 18:10 kivilahtio departments need to have their own open periods 18:10 kivilahtio search groups dont fix that 18:09 kivilahtio we have 20 libraries, but those extra 150 departments really clutter the OPAC search 18:09 kivilahtio but it makes the search display extremely cluttered 18:09 kivilahtio well atm we havea a library for every department and can do searching using search groups 18:08 kivilahtio nope 18:08 wizzyrea oh sure you can do that I think 18:08 kivilahtio have its own funds 18:08 wizzyrea rather, what's the goal and how does Koha fall short 18:08 kivilahtio every library has its own departments, not all have the same. And every department needs to be able to define different loan rules 18:08 kivilahtio serials deparmtnet 18:08 wahanui the first question is "What are you trying to do?" 18:08 wizzyrea the first question? 18:08 kivilahtio like musics department, childrens department 18:07 wizzyrea define "departments inside libraries" 18:07 kivilahtio and atm we have around 20 branches 18:07 wizzyrea hm, explain 18:07 kivilahtio and if we go Koha we definetely need to add that functionality 18:07 kivilahtio we have a dire need for departments inside libraries 18:07 wizzyrea not the way we use it, no. 18:07 kivilahtio but Koha doesn't handicap it in anyway? 18:07 * wizzyrea has 40 in her consortium 18:06 wizzyrea with lots of hardware and a few staff, I'd guess. 18:06 kivilahtio I wonder how do you deal with consortia of say 200 libraries? 18:06 wizzyrea it's doing alright here :) 18:06 kivilahtio getting solid market share 18:06 wizzyrea as in "the part most everyone only sees from the air" 18:06 kivilahtio Koha is bustling in the states 18:05 kivilahtio ok 18:05 wizzyrea flyover country ;) 18:05 wizzyrea Kansas, USA 18:05 kivilahtio and @wizzyrea? where do thee hail from? 18:05 wizzyrea ooooo 18:05 kivilahtio Finland 18:05 kivilahtio but its nice and peacefull 18:05 wizzyrea where is "here?" 18:05 kivilahtio should try to get to work earlier than 12:00 18:04 kivilahtio damn its 20:00 here already 18:04 wizzyrea true. 18:04 kivilahtio totally confuse me 18:04 wizzyrea they are fun :) 18:04 kivilahtio luv your bots 18:04 kivilahtio :D 18:04 wizzyrea (friendly sort though) 18:04 wahanui i haven't a clue, kivilahtio 18:04 kivilahtio wahanui: what? 18:04 wizzyrea (also a bot) 18:03 wahanui yes, kivilahtio? 18:03 kivilahtio wahanui 18:03 wizzyrea how did it go? 18:03 wizzyrea we missed you yesterday 18:03 wahanui salut, kivilahtio 18:03 kivilahtio hi 18:03 wizzyrea hi cait :) 18:03 cait hi :) 18:03 wizzyrea nope 18:03 kivilahtio you cant blame a system for that 18:03 wizzyrea exactly 18:03 kivilahtio and its user fault 18:03 wizzyrea you do have to assume that the staff member was at the library they were signed in at 18:03 kivilahtio yeah but thats so rare 18:03 wizzyrea well, unless a staff member logged in as themself with a set branch in a different library 18:02 kivilahtio yeah who, but from where? 18:02 kivilahtio and patrons have fixed homebranches 18:02 wizzyrea you would always be able to tell who did it 18:02 wizzyrea nah, the id's correspond to patrons 18:02 kivilahtio unless the staff was at some other library 18:02 wizzyrea several, even. 18:02 wizzyrea because every library has their own user. 18:02 kivilahtio so true 18:02 wizzyrea or, at least it would in my system 18:01 wizzyrea right - and that would lead you to which library added it 18:01 kivilahtio or participated in the payment 18:01 kivilahtio manager_id is the staff patron who created the fine 18:01 wizzyrea but accountlines does 18:01 wizzyrea no 18:01 kivilahtio but issues has no manager_id 18:01 wizzyrea and i wonder if it means anything 18:01 wizzyrea because there is a "manager_id" in there 18:00 wizzyrea now I want to know ;) 18:00 kivilahtio we can backtrack according to time and patron 18:00 * wizzyrea tests something 18:00 kivilahtio well it doesnt matter 18:00 wizzyrea let me think 17:59 wizzyrea you want to know who added that? 17:59 wizzyrea hmm 17:59 huginn kivilahtio: I've exhausted my database of quotes 17:59 kivilahtio @wizzyrea: fines that dont have a item attached? 17:59 kivilahtio How about custom created fines? 17:58 kivilahtio good, I can mark good scores for the requirement "Can we see from the fines display, from which library the fines originate from" to existing functionality supports addon :) 17:57 wizzyrea something like select * from old_issues join accountlines using(borrowernumber) where borrowernumber = <the number>; 17:56 wizzyrea exactly. 17:56 kivilahtio so backtracking accountlines.borrowernumber & itemnumber to issues and oldissues we can determine from which library this transaction emits 17:56 wizzyrea but, of course many items are never renewed. 17:55 wizzyrea if there were renewals 17:55 wizzyrea they *would* have a renewaldate 17:55 wizzyrea s/copied/moved 17:54 kivilahtio ahaa! 17:54 wizzyrea they are copied to old_issues 17:54 wizzyrea because once they do 17:54 wizzyrea issues never have a returndate 17:54 wizzyrea right 17:54 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 17:54 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #162: "oleonard: I think DRM is inherently incompatible with any lending system which will be friendly to patrons." (added by wizzyrea at 04:03 PM, October 28, 2011) 17:54 wizzyrea @quote random 17:54 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 17:54 huginn wizzyrea: Error: 'random' is not a valid id. 17:54 wizzyrea @quote get random 17:54 kivilahtio I have a issues-table full of returndates and lastrenewdates of NULL 17:54 wizzyrea see :) 17:53 huginn wizzyrea: I've exhausted my database of quotes 17:53 wizzyrea @something 17:53 wizzyrea lol naw 17:53 kivilahtio how cool is that :D 17:53 huginn kivilahtio: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 17:53 kivilahtio @wizzyrea: so you have strategically added @ to the start of your name? 17:52 wizzyrea at the beginning of a line 17:52 wizzyrea he does that when you say @anything 17:52 wizzyrea he's a bot :) 17:52 wizzyrea which would tell you where the item was checked out from 17:52 huginn kivilahtio: I've exhausted my database of quotes 17:52 kivilahtio huginn: why is that? 17:52 huginn kivilahtio: I suck 17:52 kivilahtio @wizzyrea:yeah it seems legit 17:52 wizzyrea or issues.branchcode 17:52 wizzyrea and look at issues.issuingbranch 17:51 wizzyrea or old issues, if the book has been returned 17:50 wizzyrea well... you can link the borrowernumber with issues 17:50 huginn kivilahtio: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 17:50 kivilahtio @wizzyrea: hey thats true, 17:50 kivilahtio what I wanted to find out is can we find out from what library does the fine originate from 17:50 wizzyrea and so on 17:50 wizzyrea the next, 2 17:49 wizzyrea so the very first fine a patron ever gets, will be 1 17:49 wizzyrea but afaik, the accountno is the number of the fine for that patron 17:49 wizzyrea boo it doesn't say 17:48 wahanui i heard schema was tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org 17:48 wizzyrea schema? 17:48 kivilahtio what is accountlines.accountno used for? 17:45 jcamins_away It would go towards cat6 cabling. 17:45 jcamins_away wizzyrea: you canstill throw money at me. I wouldn't mind. 17:44 oleonard I'm sure he wouldn't mind if we threw money at him wizzyrea 17:44 wizzyrea paul_p, see 5586 in regard to your SIP issue 17:43 wizzyrea he's not a problem 17:43 * wizzyrea read that as "throw money at the problem jcamins" 17:42 oleonard I'm sure I could get lots of things I want if I threw money at the problem jcamins_away 17:41 * jcamins_away needs to stop finding things he wants done to his new apartment. 17:41 * oleonard needs to stop finding things he doesn't like about the way tags work 17:40 melia ok thanks for testing oleonard :) 17:40 fabio_t Hi #koha! 17:40 oleonard Seems to be working for me in master melia 17:35 wizzyrea could be 17:35 melia I'm only hearing it from one library. am wondering if maybe some other settings could be affecting it… 17:35 gaetan_B bye #koha! 17:34 wizzyrea but can test it 17:33 wizzyrea melia - i haven't heard that 17:20 melia has anyone noticed a problem with RenewalBasePreference set to "the old date of the checkout"? one library is saying that if they renew a book today that isn't due until 5 days from today, the new due date is 2 wks from today instead of 2 wks from the actual due date... 17:06 Shane-S nengard: email you with the change, hopefully I I covered my bases. 17:05 slef wahanui++ 17:05 eternalsword thanks 17:04 wizzyrea this may help you: http://tt2.org/docs/manual/Variables.html 17:03 wahanui template toolkit is apt-get install libtemplate-perl or http://tt2.org/ 17:03 wizzyrea template toolkit? 17:02 eternalsword in the templating system, with the [% IF %] blocks, is it possible to check if a variable, whose value is grabbed from the database, is NULL 16:37 wizzyrea AHA 16:37 wahanui kohacon12 is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:KohaCon12 or Conference Tue 5 June 2012 to Thu 7th, Hackfest Sat 9th June-Mon 11th June 16:37 wizzyrea kohacon12? 16:37 wizzyrea ^ true 16:37 wahanui slef is an encyclopedia of FOSS knowledge 16:37 wizzyrea slef? 16:37 wizzyrea does someone have the link for kohacon12? 16:36 wizzyrea (in master) 16:36 wizzyrea it means it's only got QA and RM approval before your bug will be fixed :) 16:29 Shane-S awesome thanks :P (not sure what that means though) 16:29 wizzyrea Shane-S: I just signed off on the patch for your bug :) 16:28 Shane-S okay, using the http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-docs page emails? 16:28 nengard if you can't use git them email me the text of your changes and i'll put it in 16:27 Shane-S nengard: how best should I submit documentation changes based on a patch. I want to add more detail to the tools section 2.3.1 on the fields available. However, I can't use git (yet..working on it @ home) 16:01 wizzyrea I know it was a speed suck. 16:01 wizzyrea possibly? 16:01 wizzyrea part of the unified patron search routine? 16:01 nengard got people complaining that it disappeared after an upgrade 16:01 nengard hmmm 16:00 oleonard ...since sorting one page of many pages of results doesn't make much sense. 16:00 oleonard nengard: I assume they were removed around the time the results got split into pages 15:59 oleonard If you're at http://my-koha-site.com it doesn't work. If you're at http://my-koha-site.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl it does work 15:59 nengard another question - why were the table sorters removed on the patron search? and when? 15:59 nengard okey dokey, will search 15:59 oleonard nengard: It may just be mentioned in another bug, but it is a known issue 15:58 nengard other pages seem to work 15:58 nengard or i should say the help file on the main page 15:58 nengard question about master - is anyone else noticign that the help files aren't loading? is it just my set up? or a bug? 15:57 wizzyrea (may be unrelated, idk. will check master too.) 15:57 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "messages from tests for chris_n" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/284 15:57 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "messages from tests for chris_n" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/283 15:56 wizzyrea chris_n: labels.t gives some funky messages in the tests - but passes 15:55 wizzyrea :) 15:55 * magnus_afk takes the dogs for a walk 15:55 magnus_afk 2 bugs that need sign off is a little bit too good to be true... 15:55 magnus_afk yay! 15:54 wizzyrea lol 15:54 wizzyrea yep 15:54 magnuse kthxbai 15:54 magnuse wizzyrea: if and when you have the time, could you take a look at the "bugs to be signed off" link on http://koha-community.org/ - and maybe change the kohaCon11-link to one for KohaCon12? 15:54 wizzyrea chris_n++ that works a treat :) 15:52 wizzyrea ... and that was before I read your @later :) 15:52 wizzyrea chris_n: testing your patch now 15:51 kyleh it's also telling me that the 27th is also invalid. 15:50 * oleonard goes home 15:50 oleonard I'll say it is. 15:49 kyleh have there been any problems with using Date::Calc::Day_of_Week? It's telling me today is an invalid date! 15:39 marcelr even in a fresh clone same problems.. 15:38 marcelr changed my rc file today 15:38 marcelr replacing tabs by spaces 15:38 marcelr it must be vim instead of git 15:38 oleonard Yes 15:38 wahanui it has been said that oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler 15:38 marcelr oleonard? 15:38 marcelr back 15:18 marcelr oleonard: i am just thinking that my git clone had some resets and abort too many or so; probably must start a fresh one.. 15:08 mveron Good afternoon #koha 14:56 Shane-S hmm...*ponders radio/checkboxes and a "case" statement 14:56 * chris_n heads out 14:55 Shane-S QR code MAYBE :P 14:55 chris_n restricting it w/o lots of commenting by the community might result in a few not able to print what they are used to printing 14:55 Shane-S I don't see how the entire description is needed for a "labels" module 14:54 chris_n so to please all of the people all of the time, that's how it ended up 14:54 chris_n there were some differences of opinion as to what should be available or what needed to be available 14:54 Shane-S the script is bloated? 14:54 chris_n well, the problem is larger than that sadly 14:54 Shane-S It was just quicker to fetch it all :P 14:53 Shane-S chris_n: yeah, I can trim the fat of the branches down easily. I can look into trimming it all if you like. 14:53 Shane-S Have it at home now...just have to learn it :D 14:53 chris_n that select really returns way too much data 14:53 oleonard We'll continue to peer-pressure you about git Shane-S ;) 14:52 chris_n that entire bit of code needs to be cleaned up 14:52 chris_n Shane-S: all fields from the branches table should be available, although probably not all are useful 14:52 Shane-S kk ty 14:52 magnuse Shane-S: i think git is preferred, but ask nengard when she shows up 14:51 magnuse oops https://lists.koha-community.org/ (with https, not http) is giving some nasty security warnings 14:51 Shane-S magnuse: ty, still learning git, so can I just copy it manually then email the change in or is it patched via git as well? 14:51 * oleonard whines 14:51 oleonard Why can't logged-in users search using tags they've added but which are not approved? 14:50 magnuse Shane-S: http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-docs 14:50 magnuse Shane-S: if you want to change the documentation you can clone http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=summaryand submit patches to the documentation mailing list 14:43 * jcamins_away heads off to 66th and Lex. 14:41 Shane-S I mean I wanted that change, only fair I help submit the new fields :) 14:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7615 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED , Give option to use description for homebranch/holding branch in label creator instead of the branchcode 14:39 Shane-S I just want to submit further documentation on the fields usable by the patch chris_n release to bug 7615 if I determine more work 14:39 cait Shane-S: if you want to submit code - add a bug - then add your patch to it :) 14:37 oleonard nengard is documentation manager 14:37 Shane-S it should allow all the fields in the branches table "I think". I have to test it, so I was curious how I can submit that, would that be a "bug" submission as well 14:37 oleonard Shane-S: Check the "About Koha" page, "Koha Team" tab, "Koha Release Team" section 14:36 Shane-S I see chris_n modified the files to enable branches, I will have to apply those changes, but it should allow more then just branchname 14:36 wahanui hmmm... documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 14:36 cait documentation? 14:36 cait ? 14:36 wahanui yes, cait? 14:36 cait wahanui 14:36 cait Shane-S: do you mean documentation? 14:35 Shane-S who does the documentation management? 14:28 magnuse yup :-) 14:28 jcamins_away magnuse: for people, too! 14:27 magnuse probably past the retirement age 14:27 cait and opera :) 14:27 jcamins_away Not old for people, but old for wiring. 14:26 jcamins_away cait: it's the same age as my grandparents! 14:26 jcamins_away cait: very. 14:26 cait I can download firefox for my phone! 14:26 cait oh cool 14:25 cait old? 14:23 jcamins_away I asked druthb about it, and she agreed. 14:21 jcamins_away Unfortunately, I opened up the fuse box yesterday and said "oh ****, they're going to have to punch holes in all our walls and replace the wiring." 14:20 jcamins_away oleonard: yeah, the next guy is coming in four hours. 14:20 oleonard jcamins_away: Second opinion? New wiring is all well and good, but contractors have a bad habit of automatically rejecting other people's work. 14:14 cait oh ouch 14:14 jcamins_away He looked at the fuse box and said "this is going to be a problem... we need to punch holes in all your walls to replace the wiring. 14:13 Shane-S morning :) 14:13 jcamins_away But it's a lot of money. 14:13 jcamins_away Actually, it seems like a great deal. 14:13 jcamins_away Yeah. 14:11 cait the contractor? 14:11 cait :( 14:09 jcamins_away It's so expensive! 14:09 jcamins_away Augh! 14:04 cait hide the record 14:04 cait that are hidden 14:04 cait if you have a record with items 14:04 cait but I still think it should 14:04 cait yes 13:58 magnuse because it was hiding e-books and periodicals 13:58 magnuse hiding records without items was a bug and that got fixed 13:58 magnuse no the other way around, as i understand it 13:58 cait now the question is, why it doesn't work for youu 13:58 cait so there is logic to hide the record too 13:57 cait yes, that's the one I was thinking about 13:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6488 critical, P2, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , opachiddenitems not working in master 13:57 magnuse cait: looks like bug 6488 was hiding records without items, but that was fixed 13:47 magnuse i'm testing on master from last night, at least 13:47 magnuse dunno 13:46 cait there was a recent change because it also hid serials and ebooks and things... perhaps this is a side effect ? 13:46 cait Ithought it would because there was a lot of discussion about the numbering in search results having holes for the records that are not shown 13:45 cait hmm 13:45 magnuse cait: doesn't seem to work that way - this record has one item that is hidden with OpacHiddenItems: http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=344 13:42 magnuse ah, i'll check! 13:42 cait it should hide the record too - with the last item - but miht be wrong about that 13:42 cait with the new pref 13:42 cait I think if oyu hide the items 13:42 magnuse is there a way to hide whole records from the opac, not just items? (i don't think there is, but i might be missing something) 13:38 cait lots of travelling in march :) 13:37 cait oleonard: travelling back from munich where I had a presentation 13:36 oleonard Hi cait, you're cait early today :) 13:33 cait hi oleonard 13:31 oleonard Thanks marcelr 13:29 marcelr oleonard: the pref in 3516 was no problem for me (marked it passed qa at the time..) 13:28 marcelr hi oleonard 13:28 oleonard Hi #koha 12:58 marcelr same 12:58 jcamins_away Have a good day, #koha. 12:58 jcamins_away Okay, time to get ready to go. 12:54 magnuse guten tag cait 12:54 cait hi magnuse :) 12:53 magnuse good plan! 12:53 jcamins_away Right. 12:52 marcelr 3. Push 12:52 jcamins_away marcelr: "1. Look at code. 2. Mark passed QA" 12:52 marcelr jcamins++ schuster++ 12:52 magnuse schuster++ 12:52 cait I still have the data but not tested :( 12:52 magnuse and a "push to master" plan? 12:52 cait schuster++ 12:51 marcelr did you also provide a qa plan :-) 12:51 marcelr good 12:51 * magnuse cheers and applauds for bug 7284 12:51 jcamins_away I delivered. 12:51 jcamins_away wizzyrea requested a test plan. 12:51 jcamins_away Yup. 12:51 marcelr was that the patch with huge test plan ;) 12:50 * jcamins_away will do that for him. 12:50 jcamins_away But forgot to change the status. 12:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements 12:50 jcamins_away Is everyone suitably excited by the fact that schuster signed off on bug 7284? 12:49 marcelr paul_p not around today? 12:48 marcelr hi cait 12:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7310 normal, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) 12:48 cait bug 7310 12:48 cait hi marcelr :) 12:47 marcelr changed only fk requirements 12:47 marcelr hi jcamins: i do not hope so 12:47 jcamins_away Thanks. 12:47 jcamins_away No it doesn't. 12:47 jcamins_away marcelr: does 7310 need a new sign off? 12:47 marcelr hi koha 12:40 kivilahtio thanks again 12:40 kivilahtio well, I'll note that 12:40 kivilahtio we have a free ePayment and personal verification service here in Finalnd 12:39 kivilahtio we already have open source web stores 12:39 kivilahtio but it is not such a biggie to implement 12:39 kivilahtio ok 12:39 cait or you can use sip 12:39 kivilahtio like paypal or some bank services? 12:38 cait same thing, koha can only do manual payments 12:38 cait so not sure how much it can do 12:38 cait it's only a recent development though 12:38 kivilahtio how about epayments? 12:38 cait you can use sip for payment machines? (how do you call that in english?) 12:38 cait to do that 12:38 kivilahtio I'll make a proposal about that to our leaders, about cutting the Gordian knot 12:38 cait kivilahtio: I think you can use sip to integrate third party applications to koha 12:37 kivilahtio yeah, its a big issue 12:37 jcamins_away That seems like a whole kettle of fish that we don't want to deal with. 12:37 kivilahtio SIP 12:37 kivilahtio hmm 12:37 jcamins_away Not to my knowledge. 12:37 jcamins_away kivilahtio: you can use SIP for that, though. 12:37 kivilahtio jcamins_away: any plans? 12:37 jcamins_away kivilahtio: no. 12:37 kivilahtio from OPAC 12:37 kivilahtio does Koha support credit card payments? 12:36 jcamins_away schuster++ 12:34 jcamins_away cait++ 12:34 jcamins_away Yay! 12:34 cait I think it was ok 12:34 cait hm 12:32 jcamins_away How did your presentation go? :) 12:32 cait on a train, hope the connection will work 12:31 jwagner hi cait 12:31 cait hi :) 12:31 kivilahtio hi cait! 12:31 cait hi #koha 09:17 huginn Amit_Gupta: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Patch doesn't apply , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets 09:17 Amit_Gupta @bug 6440 09:12 Amit_Gupta heya clrh_ 09:05 clrh_ hello all 08:43 gaetan_B hi Amit_Gupta :) 08:29 Amit_Gupta heya gaetan_B 08:14 gaetan_B ohayo wahanui and magnuse ;) 08:14 julian_m hi magnuse :) 08:14 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B and julian_m 08:13 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B 08:13 gaetan_B hello 08:01 magnuse hm, rather cool? 08:01 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 5.0°C (8:30 AM CET on February 29, 2012). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 08:01 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:01 magnuse yay 08:01 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Falling). 08:01 magnuse @wunder boo 08:00 magnuse kia ora #koha 07:48 wahanui hola, reiveune 07:48 reiveune hello 07:16 drojf good morning #koha 07:16 alex_a heya Amit_Gupta 07:16 Amit_Gupta heya alex_a 07:11 alex_a bonjour koha 04:01 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Jeff's Weather Lab, Lawrence, Kansas is 13.0°C (10:00 PM CST on February 28, 2012). Conditions: Heavy Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Rising). Tornado Watch 41 in effect until 1 am CST Wednesday... 04:01 druthb @wunder 66046 04:01 druthb heckuva storm in Lawrence, KS right now. 100 kph winds, amazingly heavy rain, and 2.5 cm hailstones reported just outside the city. 03:34 bag heya Amit_Gupta 03:30 Amit_Gupta heya bag 02:28 druthb o/ 00:43 eternalsword my current work is up at https://github.com/eternalsword/koha in the f1 branch 00:42 * chris_n waves goodnight 00:42 eternalsword Fellowship One has blessed my use of their API. I just need to make a few minor adjustments and it should be ready for inclusion in koha. 00:39 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded. 00:39 chris_n @later tell wizzyrea and if you have time to sign off on bug 7615, I'd send along lots of chocolate 00:39 eternalsword rework is done. won't be making that mistake again. 00:38 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded. 00:38 chris_n @later tell wizzyrea if there are fields advertised which do not print on labels in the current head, I'd be obliged if you'd open a bug for it; thanks 00:36 * chris_n was thinking it must be getting late by now :) 00:35 chris_n really 00:35 eythian_bucklame a lot later... 00:35 huginn chris_n: rangi was last seen in #koha 4 days, 4 hours, 22 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <rangi> bbl 00:35 chris_n @seen rangi 00:35 chris_n cait-m still up? 00:34 eythian_bucklame cait-m: go to bed! 00:34 chris_n wizzyrea about? 00:34 Space_Librarian hey cait-m 00:29 cait-m hi koha