Time Nick Message 01:00 Waylon hiya all! question.... koha is set up to use a local sendmail server... but my server admin thinks the ideal is to get koha to use our mail service provided by googlemail... how do i do that? 01:01 Waylon how do i get koha sending mail via a remote smtp? 02:01 eythian Waylon: the best way is to make the local sendmail server relay via your google mail service 02:03 Waylon eythian, how do i do that? 02:03 eythian that depends, are you actually using sendmail (or are you using postfix or exim or something?) 02:06 Waylon postfix and dovecot are running... im guessing postfix. 02:08 eythian yeah, postfix 02:08 eythian I'll look up the config details 02:09 eythian http://braiden.org/?p=15 <-- Waylon 02:10 eythian "postfix smarthost relay gmail" are the search terms I used in case you need more info 02:15 Waylon great... my boss is now looking at using Open Journal Systems instead of koha, 02:15 Waylon great, being sarcasm of course. 02:17 Waylon ah ... damn.. its in php. 02:19 eythian Keep in mind that research has shown that PHP causes brain tumors in rats and PHP developers. 02:20 eythian it looks to me that OJS does a different task to Koha 02:25 Waylon yeah.. mandumah.com is a digital library archive of journals. 02:25 eythian ah right 02:26 Waylon so.... instead of upgrading koha and re-modifying it, i think they might go to this and modify that instead... 02:26 Waylon will mean i won't have any work. 02:26 eythian bugger :/ 02:27 Waylon Yeah.. will have to advertise for part time work on Koha. At least ill probably be working on current koha... if someone picks me up. 02:27 eythian Waylon: where are you based? 02:28 Waylon working on ancient koha... was difficult. #koha couldn't really help much... and yeah... Im in New Zealand. 02:28 Waylon Palmerston north. 02:30 eythian ah right. Can't think of many Koha libraries around that way unfortunately. 02:30 Waylon oh... can work remotely. 02:30 Waylon anyway.. PHP... that bad? 02:31 eythian I'm not a fan. I've had to use it before, and much prefer Perl. 02:32 eythian I find it strange that the function to give you the list of what a borrower has borrowers is called GetPendingIssues...there doesn't seem to be anything pending about them. 02:34 Waylon can koha organize journals into journals, volumes, issues then articles? 02:34 Waylon how? 02:34 eythian Waylon: yeah, I think that's what analytics does 02:34 eythian I'd ask jcamins_away about that, he knows the most. 02:35 Waylon right now, each article is its own biblio record. 02:35 Waylon so can't really browse along the journals like OJS says it can do. 02:35 eythian I think it's only really doable in 3.4 and above, 3.6 preferred. 02:36 Waylon but it is doable? 02:36 eythian I think so, yeah 02:36 eythian I'm not really an expert in it 02:38 Waylon right. but jcamins_away is away... so guess i have to wait. 02:44 Waylon hello wizzyrea ? 03:26 jcamins_away One moment. 03:27 * jcamins_away is here. 03:28 jcamins_away Waylon: OJS and Koha serve *completely* different purposes. 03:28 jcamins_away If Koha is mostly meeting their needs, OJS is very unlikely to. 03:28 jcamins_away Likewise, if they're switching to a publishing model, Koha is probably the wrong package. 03:29 * eythian just had a lot of trouble realising that Date::ICal and Data::ICal are actually two quite different things. 03:30 jcamins_away eythian: what's the difference? 03:30 jcamins_away Oh, never mind. 03:30 eythian yeah, that was my problem :) 03:32 * jcamins_away is trying to think of a use case where OJS and Koha might overlap. 03:34 * jcamins_away can't do it. 03:34 jcamins_away Waylon: around? 03:35 * jcamins_away eyes the pull-out couch sleepily. 03:40 jcamins_away Waylon: even with 3.6 there is no browse functionality with analytics. Or with anything else, really. 03:43 * jcamins_away is going to sleep. 03:43 jcamins_away Good night. 03:44 jcamins_away Waylon: with DOM indexing one could conceivably add analytics browsing. ByWater and Equinox are involved in a DOM indexing project, so hopefully we'll see a start on that sometime soon. 03:44 * jcamins_away really leaves now. 04:05 wizzyrea oh hi? 04:05 * wahanui waves 06:31 cait good morning #koha 07:46 cait morgen mbalmer 07:47 mbalmer hi cait! 10:13 Viktor-sweden Hi! If anyone is still on the computer :) 10:20 Viktor-sweden Some kind of API for sending order data to vendors? 10:23 Viktor-sweden Or is it possible to extract data like ISBN, quantity etc from the acquisitions module from Koha and use in a vendor-specific standalone script? 10:45 cait Viktor-sweden: Hi Viktor-sweden 10:46 cait you can print orders as PDF, currently there is no EDIFACT support - if you meant that by API 10:46 cait you can extract all data from all modules using custom reports and sql 11:03 sheikh303 hello everyone 11:05 sheikh303 can anyone tell me. how can i create a simple page contact us/about us page 11:40 magnus_afk tj�nare Viktor-sweden and cait and #koha! 11:41 cait hi magnus_afk 11:41 magnus_afk sheikh303: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS 11:55 magnuse @wunder boo 11:55 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0�C (12:20 PM CET on February 12, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 11:55 cait @wunder Konstanz 11:55 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -8.8�C (12:54 PM CET on February 12, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.44 in 1030.7 hPa (Falling). 11:56 cait hmpf. 11:56 magnuse ~10 degrees difference... 11:56 cait yeah 11:56 cait moving to norway wins points every day... 11:57 Viktor-sweden Thanks Cait! 11:57 cait Viktor-sweden: I forgot, you can also export ordres in csv 11:58 Viktor-sweden Ah, excellent! 11:58 cait and you are welcome 11:58 cait :) 11:58 Viktor-sweden Sorry it took so long. Went out for lunch and forgot to mention it :/ 11:58 cait it's ok - np 11:59 Viktor-sweden But CSV should be very useful. 11:59 cait my answer came a bit late, was not sure you were still around 11:59 cait you can also get csv from reports, I think there are lots of ways to get the data out 11:59 Viktor-sweden If we would go ahead and create something that post an order to a webshop. 12:00 magnuse yeah, exporting reports as csv is very flexible! 12:00 Viktor-sweden Still EDIFACT or some standard XML-based protocol would be great if someone were to implement. But I'd say Koha is still very competent on acquisitions anyhow. 12:01 Viktor-sweden And hi magnuse :) 12:01 magnuse tj�nare Viktor-sweden 12:01 magnuse :-) 12:02 Viktor-sweden And hi huginn' 12:02 cait ah, be warned 12:02 cait huginn is our bot :) 12:02 cait or one of them - wahanui is the other 12:02 cait @marc 245 12:02 huginn` cait: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] 12:03 Viktor-sweden Oh I see :) Only knew about logbot. 12:03 cait There is some code for EDIFACT - but I think it's still in development 12:03 cait not ready for testing yet 12:03 magnuse Viktor-sweden: there's bug 2443 - but i'm far from certain what the status of that is 12:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2443 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, NEW , Acquisitions by EDIFACT 12:03 magnuse ah, great minds... ;-) 12:04 Waylon hello all! 12:04 magnuse kia ora Waylon 12:04 Waylon can koha organize journals into journals, volumes, issues then articles, to be browsable? 12:05 magnuse Viktor-sweden: slef would be the one who would know about edifact, but he's probably not around now 12:06 cait Waylon: hmm not an easy queston 12:06 cait Waylon: if you are using the seirals module, you can have serials with bound volumes as items and issues from the subscription 12:06 cait but volumes and issues will be on the same level 12:06 magnuse Waylon: i guess you could catalogue articles and link to full text elsewhere 12:07 Viktor-sweden magnuse Ah, ok. 12:07 Waylon the full text is in pdf files.. to be downloaded 12:07 cait Waylon: yes, what magnuse said, you can always catalog links, and there are functions for analytics 12:07 cait and ways to link them and make those link appear in the catalog 12:07 Waylon done that. 12:07 Waylon but currently, all articles are a biblio each. 12:07 cait you currently can not upload pdf files into koha directly, you would have to store them somewhere and link to them 12:08 Waylon oh? my boss had that coded in. 12:09 magnuse and i think you would have to have 1 biblio = 1 article, and link them to issues through the analytics stuff that i don't really know 12:09 Waylon this analytics stuff is 3.4-3.6? 12:09 cait 3.6 12:09 cait in 3.4 you can link using $w subfields 12:10 cait in 3.6 there is another implementation called EasyAnayltics that works differently 12:10 Viktor-sweden We are thinking about syncing Koha to a master database by OAI.-MPH. We would then order at the vendors e-shop who talks to the master database (a national resource) who then syncs the MARC-data to us. 12:10 cait it also includes items somehow, but I can't really explain it 12:10 cait jcamins_away is a good source for easyanalytics 12:10 Viktor-sweden In that scenario: would acquisitions mostly be useful as a tool to follow up on the budget? 12:11 magnuse Viktor-sweden: i think it sounds like it, yes 12:11 Waylon when will jcamins_away be not away? 12:11 Waylon usually? 12:11 magnuse but maybe also for chekcing that you're actually getting what you ordered? 12:12 cait Waylon: he is in new york 12:12 Viktor-sweden magnuse True! 12:12 Viktor-sweden Keeping track of what's been ordered is quite useful. 12:12 Viktor-sweden (can't contribute with serials - sorry. But listening and learning) 12:13 Waylon so... when, is new your's waking hours? 12:15 magnuse Waylon: hard to tell on sunday ;-) 12:16 Viktor-sweden :) 12:16 Waylon ah. good point. 12:17 cait Waylon: he is around often, or you can try and write a mail on the list 12:17 magnuse brb 12:19 magnuse back 12:19 Viktor-sweden Going away for a while to finish of some e-mails to relevant bosses - not sure if the mibbit-widget supports chaning names/status. But it's been nice to have a first chat! And thanks again for the help. 12:20 Viktor-sweden Popping in again if e-mailing is quick :) 12:20 cait have a nice sunday Viktor-sweden 12:20 magnuse have fun Viktor-sweden! 12:21 magnuse i think you can do "/nick somethingelse" on mibbit 12:21 magnuse but i also think you get kicked out if you are inactive for a while... 12:21 Viktor-away Sweet :) 12:22 magnuse yay! 14:08 jcamins_away kf: why are you at work on a Sunday? 14:11 kf oh 14:11 cait thx 14:11 jcamins_away :) 14:11 cait although it feels like work with all the distance study stuff 14:21 cait @wunder Konstanz 14:21 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -6.9�C (3:19 PM CET on February 12, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 30.41 in 1029.7 hPa (Steady). 16:14 magnuse @wunder boo 16:14 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (4:50 PM CET on February 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 18:33 cait confusing_bug_numbers-- 18:49 rangi Morning from the bus 18:49 magnuse kia ora rangi! 18:49 jcamins Morning. 18:50 magnuse hiya jcamins 18:51 cait morning rangi 18:55 * magnuse wanders off to make more "kn�ckebrot" 18:56 * cait hands rangi a cinnamon roll 18:58 * jcamins tests 7432. 18:58 rangi Mm yum 18:58 rangi Yay jcamins 18:59 cait oh 18:59 magnuse bug 7432 18:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7432 critical, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Changing frameworks should refresh cache 18:59 * cait hands jcamins a cinnamon roll 18:59 magnuse jcamins++ 18:59 jcamins cait: if you're already testing it, we can both sign off. :) 18:59 cait jcamins++ 18:59 jcamins Well, assuming it works, which I'll know in... 7 minutes. 19:00 cait ah, i am about to correct my sign-off on 7289 19:00 cait I saved the 'waiting' for when I get tird 19:00 rangi I see eythian worked during the weekend too 19:03 rangi And indradg has done some cool things with gnome and the packages 19:03 jcamins Yeah, I saw that on Facebook. 19:03 rangi Yup 19:04 jcamins rangi: so was the consensus that we should use SetEnv for memcached? 19:04 rangi I think both 19:04 * jcamins bangs his head on the table. 19:04 jcamins What was the point of delaying all those patches then? 19:05 rangi Env for variables but still allow the syspref to turn it off 19:05 jcamins Ah. 19:05 jcamins That makes sense. 19:05 rangi Oh that's just my consensus 19:05 rangi :) 19:05 jcamins So the follow up to 6971 still needs sign off? 19:05 cait perhaps add your consensus to the bug 19:05 rangi Not sure what the lords decided 19:05 cait so we can +1 it :) 19:05 jcamins +1 19:05 cait um I menat the wiki 19:05 jcamins Oh, on the bug. 19:06 jcamins Oh, on the wiki. 19:06 wahanui on the wiki is more information about the packages 19:06 rangi Yep if I get a chance today I will 19:09 rangi Syspref allows hosted ppl to control it which is important 19:09 jcamins Woohoo! 19:09 jcamins It works! 19:09 rangi Yay 19:10 rangi My stop bb after #hrmmbreakfast 19:10 cait I never had any doubts it would 19:10 cait have fun :) 19:10 jcamins Neither did I. 19:13 cait ok 19:13 cait I finally fixed the signoff 19:14 cait working on 7514 now 19:15 magnuse bug 7514 19:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7514 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Choose OPAC language with URL parameter 19:15 jcamins That should be set to needs signoff. 19:15 * jcamins will test bug 7511. 19:15 magnuse yay, that sounds good! 19:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7511 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Caching Templates 19:16 magnuse yay! 19:16 cait hehe 19:16 cait we have a norwegian cheerleader ;) 19:16 * magnuse cheers his heroes on in their quest 19:16 * cait giggles at the picture that appeared in her head 19:17 * magnuse blushes 19:17 jcamins Signing things off is easier than anything else I could do. 19:17 cait and drink your tea? 19:17 * jcamins has a number of writing projects, but it's too hard to focus on those. 19:17 jcamins Yes, I'm drinking tea. 19:18 cait good 19:21 * magnuse goes back to baking 19:23 * jcamins does weird things with Apache. 19:27 jcamins Wow! 19:28 jcamins Bug 7511 is very impressie. 19:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7511 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Caching Templates 19:28 jcamins *impressive 19:32 * jcamins is doing lots of signing off this year. 19:32 jcamins I have to find out from rangi how to get a list of all the bugs I've signed off on. 19:33 * jcamins tests 6193. 19:35 cait :) 19:35 cait you are fast 19:35 cait signing off on bug 7514 now 19:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7514 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Choose OPAC language with URL parameter 19:35 cait works nicely 19:35 jcamins Hm. 19:36 magnuse cait++ jcamins++ 19:38 jcamins Okay, so much for testing 6193. 19:38 jcamins I can't figure out how to. 19:38 cait bug 6193 19:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, In Discussion , Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables 19:38 cait hm I am not sure 19:39 jcamins I think there's an additional patch missing. 19:40 jcamins Maybe. 19:44 cait going to look at 7080 19:46 cait jcamins: if you get really bored... i did a patch for serials that awaits sign-off... 19:47 jcamins cait: which bug? 19:47 cait 7521 19:47 jcamins bug 7521 19:47 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7521 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Cannot receive serials without full serials permissions 19:48 * jcamins can do that. 19:50 cait yay :) 19:51 jcamins Yikes! That's ugly! 19:51 jcamins (the bug) 19:51 cait yeah 19:51 cait permissions are 19:51 jcamins And the patch works. 19:52 cait I want to build a follow up to make routing work better on that patch next 19:53 jcamins magnuse: do you have a test dataset for NORMARC? 19:53 jcamins Preferably a small one? 19:53 cait which bug are you looking at? 19:53 jcamins Bug 7489. 19:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7489 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Implement DisplayOPACiconsXSLT for NORMARC XSLT 19:54 jcamins I could test it with a MARC21 dataset, and it'd probably work, but I feel like I should be using NORMARC to test NORMARC features. 19:55 cait hm true 19:55 jcamins Now testing bug 7530 if I can figure out how. 19:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7530 minor, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Needs Signoff , Missing <li> tag in circ-menu.inc 19:55 cait you could add a few fast adds 19:55 cait for that bug 19:55 cait owen's patch looks good too 19:55 cait signing off :) 19:56 jcamins Hm. True. 19:58 cait looking at 5280 next 19:58 jcamins bug 5280 19:58 wahanui rumour has it bug 5280 is cool, finishing testing it for sign off 19:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5280 normal, P4, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Fix password field in members.pl so that the password is masked as it is entered 19:58 cait hi Space_Librarian 19:58 Space_Librarian o/ 19:59 cait oh 19:59 Space_Librarian Hi cait! 19:59 cait it already is signed off 19:59 cait moving to next...hm. 20:01 jcamins Okay, I can't tell if it works or not. 20:01 cait the missing li? 20:02 jcamins Right. 20:02 jcamins And since it doesn't seem like a big deal to me, I'm not inclined to spend a huge amount of time trying to figure out what it's supposed to do. 20:04 cait ah 20:04 cait you can just do what the patch suggests 20:04 cait w3c xhtml validator 20:04 cait you can copy paste the html code on that page and let it check it 20:04 cait before and after the patch 20:05 jcamins Yes, I did that, and there were so many errors I couldn't tell whether it had behaved appropriately or not. 20:05 cait oh 20:07 cait lots of bugs from my list are already signed off now :) 20:08 jcamins Yay! 20:08 cait yeah, some people were really busy :) 20:08 cait wizzyrea++ jcamins++ oleonard++ 20:10 kathryn morning all : ) 20:10 cait hi kathryn :) 20:11 Space_Librarian morning kathryn - did you enjoy Melbourne? 20:12 kathryn hi Space_Librarian, yes I did! 20:12 kathryn such a nice city 20:12 kathryn we were pretty busy talking with people at Vala2012 20:12 kathryn from people who had never heard of koha, to koha librarians we didn't know were out there : ) 20:13 cait :) 20:13 cait jcamins: testing 4969 - are you still testing and drinking your tea? 20:13 jcamins bug 4969 20:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4969 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Patch doesn't apply , Vendors can not be deleted / show only active vendors 20:14 * jcamins didn't try that one. 20:14 cait it didn't apply for owen 20:14 cait but did for me 20:15 jcamins Applied fine for me 20:15 cait yep for me too 20:15 cait I wonder if it catches deleting vendors with subscriptions 20:15 cait testing that now 20:21 cait failed qa 20:22 rangi back 20:22 cait wb rangi 20:22 rangi thanks 20:23 magnuse jcamins: normarc records should not be necessary for bug 7489 - just check that any old icons are showing up before the patch and hidden after the patch (in line with twhat the syspref says it should do) 20:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7489 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Implement DisplayOPACiconsXSLT for NORMARC XSLT 20:23 jcamins magnuse: okay. :) 20:24 * jcamins is marking old patches "Does not apply." 20:25 jcamins And, rarely, needs sign off. 20:25 cait jcamins++ 20:26 cait ok, checking on a possible bug one of our libraries reported now 20:28 cait cool, it's fixed on master 20:29 jcamins Yay! 20:30 cait jcamins: are you working on 7489? 20:30 jcamins bug 7489 20:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7489 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Implement DisplayOPACiconsXSLT for NORMARC XSLT 20:30 jcamins I am not, no. 20:30 cait ah ok 20:30 cait I will pick it up :) 20:30 * magnuse wanders off and wishes everyone happy hunting 20:30 magnuse cait++ 20:30 cait bye magnus_afk :) 20:34 jcamins Okay, time to make pizza. 20:34 jcamins Bye. 20:34 cait :) 20:34 cait yum 20:34 cait bye jcamins 20:35 jcamins Just another 74 bugs with patches that are marked NEW, ASSIGNED, or REOPENED. 20:36 cait oh 20:36 cait which search are you using? 20:36 jcamins I searched for bugs with those statuses and Attachment is patch = 1 and Attachment is obsolete != 1. 20:37 cait oh 20:37 cait can you sav eit perhaps? 20:37 cait and share? 20:37 jcamins I saved it, but I'm not sure how to share it. 20:37 cait go to preferences 20:37 jcamins Ah, figured it out. :) 20:37 cait oki :) 20:38 jcamins "Patches not yet marked" 20:38 cait thx :) 20:38 jcamins Next one to check is 3317. 20:39 jcamins Okay, really making pizza now. :) 21:30 eythian hi 21:30 wahanui bonjour, eythian 21:31 cait hi eythian 21:37 jcamins_away More than a third through. 21:38 pastebot "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "top 6 sign offers for feb" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/253 21:38 jcamins_away Wow! 21:40 jcamins_away No wonder I felt like I was spending a lot of time signing off on things. 21:40 eythian way to make everyone else look bad, jcamins_away ;) 21:40 rangi heh 21:40 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJDMaAb1gsc 21:41 cait :) 21:41 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:41 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.4�C (10:40 PM CET on February 12, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.44 in 1030.7 hPa (Steady). 21:42 jcamins_away eythian: you still have time to beat me! 21:45 Space_Librarian @wunder wellington, nz 21:45 huginn` Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). 21:48 jcamins_away eythian: bug 7362. 21:48 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7362 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Allow searching by item number as a fallback 21:49 jcamins_away eythian: never mind, it doesn't apply anyway. 21:50 cait jcamins_away: I get dizzy watching you 21:50 cait :) 21:50 jcamins_away cait: I need something easy. 21:50 cait to test? 21:51 jcamins_away No, to do. 21:51 jcamins_away So I'm doing this. 21:52 cait ah 21:52 cait and drink your tea! 21:52 eythian jcamins_away: I did some packaging updates yesterday that you might have a look at, one of them was for a bug you reported :) 21:53 eythian bug 7409 and bug 7532 21:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7409 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Missing dependencies for Debian package 21:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , opac-ics depends on Date::ICal which is largely unmaintained 21:53 jcamins_away eythian: I saw that. I'll be doing packaging later in the week, at which point I'll sign off on those. 21:54 jcamins_away Unless I get through this first. ;) 21:54 eythian ah right, sweet as 21:58 jcamins_away Pizza time! 21:58 cait enjoy your pizza jcamins_away 22:06 cait hi Irma 22:07 Irma hi cait :-) 22:08 Space_Librarian hey Irma 22:08 cait :) 22:08 Irma hi Space_Librarian :-) 22:22 cait @marc 500 22:22 huginn` cait: General information for which a specialized 5XX note field has not been defined. (Repeatable) [a,3,5,6,8] 22:22 rangi @marc 550 22:22 huginn` rangi: Information about the current and former issuing bodies of a continuing resource. (Repeatable) [a,6,8] 22:23 rangi not in authority records its not 22:23 rangi its see also from tracing 22:23 rangi topical term 22:23 wahanui topical term is, like, a general subject 22:23 rangi apparently 22:31 magnus_afk cait++ for signing off my patch and generally for being awesome 22:32 magnus_afk jcamins++ for being awesome 22:32 cait magnuse++ for being more awesome 22:33 magnus_afk no way! 22:33 eythian magnus_afk: bug 7409 and bug 7532 may be of interest to you too 22:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7409 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Missing dependencies for Debian package 22:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , opac-ics depends on Date::ICal which is largely unmaintained 22:33 magnus_afk eythian: yup! 22:34 magnus_afk bug 6440 is top of my list though 22:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets 22:36 rangi jcamins_away: about? 22:37 magnus_afk g'night #koha 22:37 eythian bye 22:37 Phlunk3 hey guys, we have had a server reboot on a koha server, now zebra isnt working (no search) and the error log from zebra spits this out: http://pastebin.com/BkDEjtwN 22:38 rangi look for a lock file 22:39 rangi and or busted permissions 22:40 Phlunk3 thx, I know a colleague messed with some permissions to get it this far, will try ensure he returns everything to how it was and then have a look myself. thx rangi. 22:40 eythian also look for more logs 22:40 rangi i bet its permissions either of hte lock file, or the index files themselves 22:41 rangi but yeah more logs good too 22:44 Phlunk3 hmmz, it was days ago the server rebooted 22:44 Phlunk3 since then been spitting that error every 30 secs, will have a look though 22:45 eythian basicaly all it's saying is that zebrasrv is dying as soon as it starts. 22:45 Phlunk3 yeah 22:45 Phlunk3 apparently the guy made the lock folders manually. 22:46 rangi that'd do it 22:46 Phlunk3 as he was getting an error earlier, nm I'll get him to rollback and then see if I can fix the original issue. 22:46 rangi i think ubuntu kills those dirs, the newer versions of koha (using the packages) makes the dirs 22:46 Phlunk3 probably he just had to start a process, but instead tried to start wrong one etc 22:46 rangi but it probably needs the dirs /var/lock whatever 22:47 Phlunk3 ahh, it is package installed on ubuntu. but the dirs were gone he said. 22:47 rangi but just owned by the user zebra is trying to run as 22:47 rangi probably permissions then, check the dirs are owned by the right user 22:48 Phlunk3 who should own them? koha? 22:49 rangi whats the user the zebra process is running as? 22:49 eythian $ ls -ld /var/lock/koha 22:49 eythian drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 Dec 19 08:53 /var/lock/koha 22:49 eythian but the zebra process should create the dirs as needed in there. 22:49 rangi yup, for the packages 22:49 Phlunk3 yeah I wont make them then 22:49 eythian it should end up looking like: 22:49 eythian drwxr-xr-x 4 demo-koha demo-koha 4096 May 21 2010 demo 22:50 eythian underneath that 22:50 Phlunk3 sorry to ask stupid q, but how can I see who its running as? 22:50 Phlunk3 it quites out when I run it lol 22:50 Phlunk3 quits* 22:50 eythian how are you running it? 22:51 Phlunk3 Im not running it manually, its just from a koha install package, whatever it gets setup to do on boot. 22:51 eythian so, that uses an init script 22:51 Phlunk3 I believe I didn't make any changes to startup scripts etc 22:51 Phlunk3 yeah 22:51 rangi packages from debian.koha-community.org eh? 22:51 Phlunk3 koha-common I presume 22:51 eythian yeah 22:51 rangi yup 22:51 Phlunk3 1 moment Ill check 22:51 jcamins_away rangi: yeah. 22:52 eythian what about in /var/log/koha/libraryname/zebra*log 22:53 Phlunk3 same as I posted earlier? 22:53 rangi jcamins_away: so im trying to create authority files from a csv file 22:53 rangi i have a column USEFOR 22:53 jcamins_away Oh, you poor, poor man. 22:53 Phlunk3 lol 22:53 rangi example LEADTERM=Accounting USEFOR=Bookkeeping 22:54 rangi im thinking 150a and 450a respectively? 22:54 rangi right track? 22:54 jcamins_away Yes. 22:54 rangi yay, cait was helping me 22:54 jcamins_away Your indicators will both be blank. 22:54 cait lol 22:54 Phlunk3 should any of the commands like koha-restart-zebra help me with making the log folder? or shall I just manually attempt it? 22:54 cait glad I got it right ;) 22:55 eythian Phlunk3: it should be there already 22:55 eythian look in /var/log/koha 22:55 jcamins_away 008/09=a, 008/10=d, 008/11=z, 008/15=a, 008/17=a 22:56 Phlunk3 I dont have that either eyth 22:56 eythian how do you not? 22:56 Phlunk3 lol 22:56 eythian that's pretty strange 22:56 Phlunk3 lemme check 22:56 Phlunk3 wait 22:56 Phlunk3 ofc I do :P 22:56 Phlunk3 wrong vps 22:56 eythian heh that won't help any :) 22:56 rangi jcamins_away: aahh ok :) 22:57 Phlunk3 koha-error-log is there, no errors recently for it. 22:57 Phlunk3 same with koha-opac-error 22:57 eythian no 22:57 eythian zebra-* 22:57 Phlunk3 yeah, I pasted those earlier sorry thought you'd seen, moment 22:58 Phlunk3 zebra-error-log: http://pastebin.com/BkDEjtwN 22:58 rangi jcamins_away: i guess i just have to create the leader and 003 and 007 now 22:58 Phlunk3 output-log gives this every 30 seconds: 11:56:54-13/02 [fatal] lock file /var/lock/koha/mylibrary/biblios/zebrasrv.pid [No such file or directory] 22:58 rangi hmm 22:58 rangi no 22:58 rangi 003 22:59 rangi i dont think need 007 22:59 jcamins_away rangi: no 007. 22:59 rangi gah, this hurts my brain 22:59 rangi thanks 22:59 jcamins_away The 003 is going to be the same for all of them. 22:59 rangi leader and 003 i can do 22:59 rangi sweet 22:59 jcamins_away Just a code for the library. 22:59 rangi *nod* 22:59 eythian I wonder if you have an old version of the packages, I think the newer ones mkdir that. 22:59 cait you can do it :) 22:59 Phlunk3 Ill check what version it was. 23:00 Phlunk3 it is quite old tbh needs updated 23:00 jcamins_away rangi: what's the story with bug 6431? 23:00 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , New Circulation modules for Hourly Circulation 23:01 rangi ah they have been pulled into the main one already 23:01 jcamins_away all three patches apply without conflict. 23:01 rangi by colin 23:01 eythian In the short term, you can just mkdir them yourself, and chown them to koha-mylibrary 23:01 rangi yeah 5579 has them applied already 23:01 jcamins_away Okay, so, mark the bug RESOLVED-WONTFIX? 23:01 rangi yeah i think so 23:02 rangi with a note, these are in 5579 already 23:02 jcamins_away Same deal for 6430? 23:03 jcamins_away bug 6430 23:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6430 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , DB changes needed for Hourly Circulation 23:04 Phlunk3 have manually made them and will check out how it likes things now, thanks. 23:05 rangi i think so 23:06 jcamins_away Thanks. 23:09 rangi hmm so if USEFOR =450a i wonder what USEPREF should be 23:09 rangi eg LEADTERM=Accountability USEPREF=Responsibility 23:09 jcamins_away Oh, I see. 23:10 jcamins_away That is 450 $aAccountability, 150 $aResponsibility. 23:10 jcamins_away Please don't gouge your eyes out! 23:10 cait uhoh 23:11 rangi eek 23:11 cait jcamins_away: you make his brain hurt! 23:11 jcamins_away cait: it makes my brain hurt, too! 23:11 cait perhaps my brain is too tired to hurt 23:12 jcamins_away lol 23:12 rangi ok, im gonna go get lunch and try again :) 23:12 rangi thanks, makes sense, just hard to code 23:12 * eythian goes for lunch while my package build hopefully succeeds finally 23:12 Phlunk3 okay this seems like a db issue? wasnt sure. http://pastebin.com/AaWKahRi 23:13 jcamins_away Phlunk3: no, that's because you're missing the directories so that zebrasrv can start. 23:13 eythian that's not a db issue 23:13 eythian it's... 23:13 eythian what he said 23:13 jcamins_away mkdir /var/run/koha/mylibrary/ 23:13 Phlunk3 ahh thanks 23:13 jcamins_away *sudo* mkdir ... 23:13 Phlunk3 who should own them? 23:16 jcamins_away Phlunk3: good question. 23:16 jcamins_away (one moment while I find out) 23:16 Phlunk3 gave them to mylibrary-koha and that fixed it 23:16 jcamins_away mylibrary-koha 23:16 Phlunk3 thanks jc and the lunchroom team. 23:17 Phlunk3 okay seems we need to upgrade that system to a newer koha version 23:17 Phlunk3 anyone knows where I can spitout current version via command line? 23:17 jcamins_away locate kohaversion.pl 23:18 Phlunk3 our $VERSION = '3.04.02.000'; 23:18 Phlunk3 isnt that really old? 23:18 jcamins_away Uhhh... yeah, it is. 23:19 Phlunk3 ffs I think someone has booted the wrong virtual machine 23:19 jcamins_away That is... 7 months out of date. 23:19 jcamins_away Phlunk3: if it makes you feel any better, I know of another library that did that, too. 23:19 Phlunk3 thx man lol 23:31 hephzibah hello 23:31 jcamins_away Hello. 23:31 hephzibah I have just installed koha ils on my server 23:32 hephzibah i will like to catalogue my books at the library into the software 23:33 hephzibah how can i use a bar code reader to read the book information to catalogue 23:33 jcamins_away hephzibah: I recommend you read the manual. 23:33 jcamins_away documentation? 23:33 wahanui somebody said documentation was at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 23:33 jcamins_away ^^ there. 23:33 wahanui ^^ there is that very good point 23:34 jcamins_away And... I guess that's all I had to say. 23:35 jcamins_away hephzibah: the short answer is, you won't be able to just scan books in and have Koha catalog them for you. 23:35 jcamins_away You can use the Z39.50 feature to download records from the Library of Congress (for example), though. 23:41 mib_a3y53e hello 23:41 wahanui privet, mib_a3y53e 23:41 mib_a3y53e how do i take in records of my books into the koha ils i just installed 23:46 eythian jcamins_away: bug 7238 is another one if you want to do packaging stuff that causes the build to break. 23:46 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7238 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , move SIPconfig.xml, sip_run and sip_shutdown outside from C4 (NOT FOR 3.6) 23:47 eythian (well, the patch I have there prevents the build from breaking) 23:48 BobB mib_a3y53: there's a utility on the Tools menu you can use. 23:49 BobB @seen mtj 23:49 huginn` BobB: mtj was last seen in #koha 5 days, 2 hours, 18 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: * mtj waves to all