Time  Nick                   Message
01:19 jcamins_away           Yay! The peppermint fudge is setting!
03:14 wizzyrea               I just had kind of a crazy idea for bugzilla
03:14 wizzyrea               "like" or "me too" for comments or bugs.
03:15 wizzyrea               a "like" like function
03:15 wizzyrea               I'll just leave that here.
03:22 jcamins_away           wizzyrea: we already discussed that.
03:23 jcamins_away           I mean, you and I did.
03:23 jcamins_away           I think we concluded it would be very useful.
03:53 wizzyrea               I was looking at 7536 and I wa nted to "hell yea" on "added a command line switch so original function is preserved"
03:58 wizzyrea               also you'll like this : http://www.breadedcats.com/
06:00 cait                   good morning #koha
06:11 cait                   @wunder Konstanz
06:11 huginn`                cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -10.0�C (7:00 AM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1030 hPa (Falling).
06:42 rangi                  evening
06:48 cait                   evening rangi
09:01 mib_hd2fxx             hi
09:01 mib_hd2fxx             sa
09:01 mib_hd2fxx             can anyone tell me about koha's irc
09:01 mib_hd2fxx             ?
09:02 cait                   what do you want to know?
09:04 mib_hd2fxx             can i integrate with my own koha server
09:04 mib_hd2fxx             ?
09:05 cait                   sorry, I don't understand your question
09:14 mib_hd2fxx             ok tnx
09:31 cait                   hi mbalmer
09:33 mbalmer                morgen!
09:33 cait                   @wunder Konstanz
09:33 huginn`                cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -9.7�C (10:29 AM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Steady).
09:33 cait                   brr
09:36 cait                   hi talljoy
13:44 jcamins_away           Why would you develop a mobile app using C#?
13:49 magnus_away            because that's the only language you know?
14:18 jcamins_away           magnus_afk: I guess so, but what a waste.
15:28 jcamins_away           Anyone around who has worked with VRA Core?
15:40 sphinx                 dear all, I have downloaded latest release of koha
15:41 sphinx                 how come do I have 4.08.23? Does it have to do with liblime packaging?
15:46 jcamins                sphinx: yes, the latest version is 3.6.3.
15:46 jcamins                sphinx: the Koha website is http://koha-community.org/
15:46 wahanui                i already had it that way, jcamins.
15:47 jcamins                sphinx: you'll probably want to download Koha (as opposed to the LibLime package), since LibLime doesn't provide support.
15:47 jcamins                (unless you pay for it)
16:56 * magnus_afk           doesn't even know what VRA Core is...
17:08 cait                   hi #koha
17:08 slef                   nor does wikipedia
17:09 slef                   hi cait, bye #koha
17:09 cait                   hi slef, bye slef
17:09 cait                   @wunder Konstanz
17:10 huginn`                cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -9.2�C (6:04 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa (Rising).
17:10 magnus_afk             guten tag cait
17:10 magnus_afk             @wunder boo
17:10 cait                   hi magnus_afk
17:10 huginn`                magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 4.0�C (1:00 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
17:11 cait                   I am at least half frozen
17:11 magnus_afk             woohoo!
17:11 * cait                 should move to norway apparently
17:11 magnus_afk             oops, i did not mean to "woohoo" your forzenness ;-)
17:11 magnus_afk             at the moment, yes
17:11 cait                   :)
17:11 cait                   I got my new glasses :)
17:11 magnus_afk             but we had windchill in the high 20s not too long ago, remember?
17:11 magnus_afk             yay for new glasses!
17:12 cait                   yay :)
17:44 jcamins                magnus_afk: cait: VRA Core is a metadata standard.
17:44 cait                   ?
17:44 cait                   hi jcamins
17:44 jcamins                Hello.
17:44 magnus_afk             hiya jcamins
17:44 magnus_afk             well, then i learned something new today too
17:44 magnus_afk             :-)
17:45 * cait                 is still trying to make the connection
17:46 jcamins                cait: it's used by some libraries.
17:47 cait                   ok?
17:47 cait                   I expected you to ask about the authority data matching
17:48 cait                   but VRA Core?
17:48 jcamins                cait: heh. Nothing to do with authority matching. It's one of the metadata standards supported by CollectiveAccess.
17:49 cait                   I mean that is was kind of unexpected :)
17:49 jcamins                Ah.
17:49 jcamins                Yes, I suppose it was.
17:49 jcamins                :P
18:07 * magnus_afk           wanders off to eat shrimps and homemade kn�ckebrot
18:08 * jcamins              doesn't like shrimp, but the knackebrot sounds good.
18:09 YoungPublicLibrarian   lol how do you do that?
18:10 cait                   with a /me at the beginning of the line
18:10 * cait                 waves at YoungPublicLibrarian
18:11 * YoungPublicLibrarian thinks that is very cool!
18:11 jcamins                :)
18:11 jcamins                Good afternoon, wizzyrea.
18:11 YoungPublicLibrarian   secondly, what is knackebrot?
18:12 jcamins                YoungPublicLibrarian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisp_bread
18:12 * jcamins              had to look it up, too. ;)
18:12 YoungPublicLibrarian   lol thanks
18:12 YoungPublicLibrarian   doesn't sound bad...
18:13 jcamins                And it's homemade by magnuse.
18:14 YoungPublicLibrarian   lol
18:14 YoungPublicLibrarian   I have a question about Koha. Anyone have time?
18:17 cait                   sure
18:17 cait                   just ask, never ask to ask :)
18:17 cait                   normally if someone is around and knows, you will get an anser
18:17 cait                   and if not, try again later or on the list
18:18 YoungPublicLibrarian   lol, okay. Nevermind, just figured out the problem...
18:19 cait                   YoungPublicLibrarian++ :)
18:22 YoungPublicLibrarian   I was messing with the fines section. I thought that I started with 28.00 of fines and wanted to pay just part of it. So I input 4 dollars and then hit submit. When I looked back up it said I owed 10.00 for one book and 14.00 for another for a total of 24.00, so naturally I was thinking "Why didn't it take off the partial value. I had 24.00 dollars of fines
18:22 YoungPublicLibrarian   and still have 24.00 dollars of fines. Then I realized I'm bad at math...
18:23 cait                   heh
18:23 cait                   happens to me all the time:)
18:26 YoungPublicLibrarian   :D
18:28 YoungPublicLibrarian   is there any way to write off just part of a fine? Or to delete a fine as an error instead of forgiving it?
18:31 cait                   yes for part of a fine
18:31 cait                   no for another thing beside forgive
18:31 cait                   you could add a note maybe
18:31 * cait                 goes tocheck the interface
18:32 cait                   hm
18:33 cait                   if do a ' pay selected ' you can enter only part of the amount
18:33 cait                   so select one and click 'pay selected' and enter the amount you want to pay for that fine
18:34 cait                   it seems not possible to add a note when forgiving, so not sure what to do about errors
18:40 YoungPublicLibrarian   okay. So heres a hypothetical situation: We had a fine to a patron's card for a lost book. The fine includes the price of the book and a 5.00 dollar processing fee.
18:41 cait                   hm
18:41 cait                   I think there is a workflow for lost items
18:41 cait                   but I have not worked with that yet - so you might want to ask someone else
18:41 cait                   I think it's a bywater development
18:42 YoungPublicLibrarian   When the patron comes into pay for the fine they bring a brand new copy of the book to replace the one they lost. So we want to take off the item price but still have them pay for the processing fee. Is there a way to pay part of the fine and do something else with the rest?
18:43 cait                   yeah
18:43 cait                   you can partial pay it
18:43 cait                   and writeoff the rest
18:44 YoungPublicLibrarian   ah okay. That makes sense. I was thinking about it and trying to write it off first, but that wouldn't let me select an amount, just wanted to write off the entire fine. But if I pay it first then write off the remaining fine it works just fine :/
18:45 jcamins                cait: bug 3498
18:45 wahanui                bug 3498 is a fairly old implementation that colin updated. It just popped up because I added 'needs signoff'
18:45 huginn`                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Allow partial fine payments
18:46 YoungPublicLibrarian   um...forgive my momentary lack of intelligence, but what's all that mean?
18:47 jcamins                YoungPublicLibrarian: cait was asking about a bug relating to reversing partial payments.
18:47 jcamins                The last comment on that bug says there's a problem with reversing partial payments.
18:49 YoungPublicLibrarian   ah, that brings up another question. Does the account summary continually keep track of all fine histories? Or does it condense in some way after a while. Because potentially you could have a never ending list of fines for some patrons and that could be a bit frustrating to work with...
18:50 jcamins                It does not condense, so far as I know.
18:50 jcamins                But I generally don't do much with circ, so I could be wrong. wizzyrea?
18:52 YoungPublicLibrarian   wow, if it doesn't it could be a long list if you have a patron that is late and has fines every month for five years...
18:53 jcamins                I think it may be paginated- only twenty fines to a page.
18:53 jcamins                Again, I could be wrong.
18:54 jcamins                Most of the libraries I work with don't circulate.
18:55 YoungPublicLibrarian   ah i see...having pages would be a good idea! Thanks for the help everyone!
18:58 drojf1                 hello #koha
19:02 cait                   hi drojf1 :)
19:02 cait                   @wunder Konstanz
19:02 huginn`                cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -9.1�C (7:59 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030.4 hPa (Rising).
19:02 drojf1                 hi cait :)
19:04 cait                   @wunder berlin, germany
19:04 huginn`                cait: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -7.4�C (7:43 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037.1 hPa (Steady).
19:04 * drojf1               is pleasantly surprised by major coverage of anti ACTA demonstrations by german tv news
19:04 cait                   hah I win
19:04 drojf1                 heh
19:08 YoungPublicLibrarian   why are we looking at temperatures of Germany?
19:08 liw                    Germany is very cool
19:08 liw                    it's so cool it's borderline cold!
19:09 drojf1                 i've been walking around for hours today at. -8° is cold enough for me
19:09 drojf1                 s/at//
19:11 drojf1                 YoungPublicLibrarian: cait lives in konstanz, i live in berlin
19:12 YoungPublicLibrarian   ah i see
19:12 cait                   koha is global :)
19:12 cait                   magnuse lives in norway
19:12 cait                   @wunder boo
19:13 huginn`                cait: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0�C (7:50 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
19:13 drojf1                 damn, bodø is hot
19:14 cait                   yeah... makes me think about moving there
19:14 sphinx                 thanks jcamins
19:15 sphinx                 thanks jcamins
19:15 sphinx                 @wunder Cairo
19:15 huginn`                sphinx: Error: No such location could be found.
19:15 sphinx                 @wunder Cairo, Egypt
19:15 huginn`                sphinx: The current temperature in Cairo, Egypt is 14.0�C (8:30 PM EET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
21:20 YoungPublicLibrarian   Whew...learning Java Programming is complicated...lol
21:20 * cait                 nods
21:20 cait                   why are you learning java?
21:21 YoungPublicLibrarian   One of my college courses...
21:22 cait                   oh
21:23 YoungPublicLibrarian   Yeah...right now I have to figure out how to sort an array of numbers and an array of strings using the selection sort method...
21:35 YoungPublicLibrarian   I think the main thing throwing me off is the Array itself. I did great on the rest of the Java code up to this point. Then when they started throwing arrays in there I began to have issues...