Time Nick Message 01:19 jcamins_away Yay! The peppermint fudge is setting! 03:14 wizzyrea I just had kind of a crazy idea for bugzilla 03:14 wizzyrea "like" or "me too" for comments or bugs. 03:15 wizzyrea a "like" like function 03:15 wizzyrea I'll just leave that here. 03:22 jcamins_away wizzyrea: we already discussed that. 03:23 jcamins_away I mean, you and I did. 03:23 jcamins_away I think we concluded it would be very useful. 03:53 wizzyrea I was looking at 7536 and I wa nted to "hell yea" on "added a command line switch so original function is preserved" 03:58 wizzyrea also you'll like this : http://www.breadedcats.com/ 06:00 cait good morning #koha 06:11 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:11 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -10.0�C (7:00 AM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1030 hPa (Falling). 06:42 rangi evening 06:48 cait evening rangi 09:01 mib_hd2fxx hi 09:01 mib_hd2fxx sa 09:01 mib_hd2fxx can anyone tell me about koha's irc 09:01 mib_hd2fxx ? 09:02 cait what do you want to know? 09:04 mib_hd2fxx can i integrate with my own koha server 09:04 mib_hd2fxx ? 09:05 cait sorry, I don't understand your question 09:14 mib_hd2fxx ok tnx 09:31 cait hi mbalmer 09:33 mbalmer morgen! 09:33 cait @wunder Konstanz 09:33 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -9.7�C (10:29 AM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Steady). 09:33 cait brr 09:36 cait hi talljoy 13:44 jcamins_away Why would you develop a mobile app using C#? 13:49 magnus_away because that's the only language you know? 14:18 jcamins_away magnus_afk: I guess so, but what a waste. 15:28 jcamins_away Anyone around who has worked with VRA Core? 15:40 sphinx dear all, I have downloaded latest release of koha 15:41 sphinx how come do I have 4.08.23? Does it have to do with liblime packaging? 15:46 jcamins sphinx: yes, the latest version is 3.6.3. 15:46 jcamins sphinx: the Koha website is http://koha-community.org/ 15:46 wahanui i already had it that way, jcamins. 15:47 jcamins sphinx: you'll probably want to download Koha (as opposed to the LibLime package), since LibLime doesn't provide support. 15:47 jcamins (unless you pay for it) 16:56 * magnus_afk doesn't even know what VRA Core is... 17:08 cait hi #koha 17:08 slef nor does wikipedia 17:09 slef hi cait, bye #koha 17:09 cait hi slef, bye slef 17:09 cait @wunder Konstanz 17:10 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -9.2�C (6:04 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa (Rising). 17:10 magnus_afk guten tag cait 17:10 magnus_afk @wunder boo 17:10 cait hi magnus_afk 17:10 huginn` magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 4.0�C (1:00 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). 17:11 cait I am at least half frozen 17:11 magnus_afk woohoo! 17:11 * cait should move to norway apparently 17:11 magnus_afk oops, i did not mean to "woohoo" your forzenness ;-) 17:11 magnus_afk at the moment, yes 17:11 cait :) 17:11 cait I got my new glasses :) 17:11 magnus_afk but we had windchill in the high 20s not too long ago, remember? 17:11 magnus_afk yay for new glasses! 17:12 cait yay :) 17:44 jcamins magnus_afk: cait: VRA Core is a metadata standard. 17:44 cait ? 17:44 cait hi jcamins 17:44 jcamins Hello. 17:44 magnus_afk hiya jcamins 17:44 magnus_afk well, then i learned something new today too 17:44 magnus_afk :-) 17:45 * cait is still trying to make the connection 17:46 jcamins cait: it's used by some libraries. 17:47 cait ok? 17:47 cait I expected you to ask about the authority data matching 17:48 cait but VRA Core? 17:48 jcamins cait: heh. Nothing to do with authority matching. It's one of the metadata standards supported by CollectiveAccess. 17:49 cait I mean that is was kind of unexpected :) 17:49 jcamins Ah. 17:49 jcamins Yes, I suppose it was. 17:49 jcamins :P 18:07 * magnus_afk wanders off to eat shrimps and homemade kn�ckebrot 18:08 * jcamins doesn't like shrimp, but the knackebrot sounds good. 18:09 YoungPublicLibrarian lol how do you do that? 18:10 cait with a /me at the beginning of the line 18:10 * cait waves at YoungPublicLibrarian 18:11 * YoungPublicLibrarian thinks that is very cool! 18:11 jcamins :) 18:11 jcamins Good afternoon, wizzyrea. 18:11 YoungPublicLibrarian secondly, what is knackebrot? 18:12 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisp_bread 18:12 * jcamins had to look it up, too. ;) 18:12 YoungPublicLibrarian lol thanks 18:12 YoungPublicLibrarian doesn't sound bad... 18:13 jcamins And it's homemade by magnuse. 18:14 YoungPublicLibrarian lol 18:14 YoungPublicLibrarian I have a question about Koha. Anyone have time? 18:17 cait sure 18:17 cait just ask, never ask to ask :) 18:17 cait normally if someone is around and knows, you will get an anser 18:17 cait and if not, try again later or on the list 18:18 YoungPublicLibrarian lol, okay. Nevermind, just figured out the problem... 18:19 cait YoungPublicLibrarian++ :) 18:22 YoungPublicLibrarian I was messing with the fines section. I thought that I started with 28.00 of fines and wanted to pay just part of it. So I input 4 dollars and then hit submit. When I looked back up it said I owed 10.00 for one book and 14.00 for another for a total of 24.00, so naturally I was thinking "Why didn't it take off the partial value. I had 24.00 dollars of fines 18:22 YoungPublicLibrarian and still have 24.00 dollars of fines. Then I realized I'm bad at math... 18:23 cait heh 18:23 cait happens to me all the time:) 18:26 YoungPublicLibrarian :D 18:28 YoungPublicLibrarian is there any way to write off just part of a fine? Or to delete a fine as an error instead of forgiving it? 18:31 cait yes for part of a fine 18:31 cait no for another thing beside forgive 18:31 cait you could add a note maybe 18:31 * cait goes tocheck the interface 18:32 cait hm 18:33 cait if do a ' pay selected ' you can enter only part of the amount 18:33 cait so select one and click 'pay selected' and enter the amount you want to pay for that fine 18:34 cait it seems not possible to add a note when forgiving, so not sure what to do about errors 18:40 YoungPublicLibrarian okay. So heres a hypothetical situation: We had a fine to a patron's card for a lost book. The fine includes the price of the book and a 5.00 dollar processing fee. 18:41 cait hm 18:41 cait I think there is a workflow for lost items 18:41 cait but I have not worked with that yet - so you might want to ask someone else 18:41 cait I think it's a bywater development 18:42 YoungPublicLibrarian When the patron comes into pay for the fine they bring a brand new copy of the book to replace the one they lost. So we want to take off the item price but still have them pay for the processing fee. Is there a way to pay part of the fine and do something else with the rest? 18:43 cait yeah 18:43 cait you can partial pay it 18:43 cait and writeoff the rest 18:44 YoungPublicLibrarian ah okay. That makes sense. I was thinking about it and trying to write it off first, but that wouldn't let me select an amount, just wanted to write off the entire fine. But if I pay it first then write off the remaining fine it works just fine :/ 18:45 jcamins cait: bug 3498 18:45 wahanui bug 3498 is a fairly old implementation that colin updated. It just popped up because I added 'needs signoff' 18:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Allow partial fine payments 18:46 YoungPublicLibrarian um...forgive my momentary lack of intelligence, but what's all that mean? 18:47 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: cait was asking about a bug relating to reversing partial payments. 18:47 jcamins The last comment on that bug says there's a problem with reversing partial payments. 18:49 YoungPublicLibrarian ah, that brings up another question. Does the account summary continually keep track of all fine histories? Or does it condense in some way after a while. Because potentially you could have a never ending list of fines for some patrons and that could be a bit frustrating to work with... 18:50 jcamins It does not condense, so far as I know. 18:50 jcamins But I generally don't do much with circ, so I could be wrong. wizzyrea? 18:52 YoungPublicLibrarian wow, if it doesn't it could be a long list if you have a patron that is late and has fines every month for five years... 18:53 jcamins I think it may be paginated- only twenty fines to a page. 18:53 jcamins Again, I could be wrong. 18:54 jcamins Most of the libraries I work with don't circulate. 18:55 YoungPublicLibrarian ah i see...having pages would be a good idea! Thanks for the help everyone! 18:58 drojf1 hello #koha 19:02 cait hi drojf1 :) 19:02 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:02 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -9.1�C (7:59 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030.4 hPa (Rising). 19:02 drojf1 hi cait :) 19:04 cait @wunder berlin, germany 19:04 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -7.4�C (7:43 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037.1 hPa (Steady). 19:04 * drojf1 is pleasantly surprised by major coverage of anti ACTA demonstrations by german tv news 19:04 cait hah I win 19:04 drojf1 heh 19:08 YoungPublicLibrarian why are we looking at temperatures of Germany? 19:08 liw Germany is very cool 19:08 liw it's so cool it's borderline cold! 19:09 drojf1 i've been walking around for hours today at. -8° is cold enough for me 19:09 drojf1 s/at// 19:11 drojf1 YoungPublicLibrarian: cait lives in konstanz, i live in berlin 19:12 YoungPublicLibrarian ah i see 19:12 cait koha is global :) 19:12 cait magnuse lives in norway 19:12 cait @wunder boo 19:13 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0�C (7:50 PM CET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 19:13 drojf1 damn, bodø is hot 19:14 cait yeah... makes me think about moving there 19:14 sphinx thanks jcamins 19:15 sphinx thanks jcamins 19:15 sphinx @wunder Cairo 19:15 huginn` sphinx: Error: No such location could be found. 19:15 sphinx @wunder Cairo, Egypt 19:15 huginn` sphinx: The current temperature in Cairo, Egypt is 14.0�C (8:30 PM EET on February 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 21:20 YoungPublicLibrarian Whew...learning Java Programming is complicated...lol 21:20 * cait nods 21:20 cait why are you learning java? 21:21 YoungPublicLibrarian One of my college courses... 21:22 cait oh 21:23 YoungPublicLibrarian Yeah...right now I have to figure out how to sort an array of numbers and an array of strings using the selection sort method... 21:35 YoungPublicLibrarian I think the main thing throwing me off is the Array itself. I did great on the rest of the Java code up to this point. Then when they started throwing arrays in there I began to have issues...