Time  Nick              Message
22:53 jcamins_away      Was there something else I wanted to sign off on tonight?
22:34 eythian           Someone else got it wrong and I reply-all'ed.
22:34 eythian           oh wait
22:34 eythian           not ideal...
22:33 eythian           rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table (in reply to RCPT TO command)
22:33 eythian           said: 550 5.1.1 <koha@lists.koha-community.org>: Recipient address
22:33 eythian           <koha@lists.koha-community.org>: host lists.koha-community.org[]
22:30 Space_Librarian   eythian ++
22:30 Space_Librarian   gasp! happy dance :D
22:29 cait              night all
22:29 * Space_Librarian blinks
22:25 wizzyrea          :D noice.
22:25 eythian           Space_Librarian: fixed.
22:24 wizzyrea          i wonder if perhaps you have tons of stuff in your queue
22:07 Space_Librarian   And LC is simply refusing to connect
22:07 Space_Librarian   they're just not working for me. I had 2 up this morning, and even they're down now.
22:06 wizzyrea          whyfor
22:06 wizzyrea          O.O
22:06 * Space_Librarian wants to throttle z39.50 servers
21:47 cait              if that shows up, it's not memcache and some problemwith the hidden fields
21:46 cait              NCARMichael: you can also check someting else - like changing a description
21:46 NCARMichael       thanks, bye.
21:44 NCARMichael       okay, i'll shoot him an email
21:43 cait              he will also know if you are using memcache
21:43 eythian           hi
21:43 cait              ah
21:43 cait              good morning eythian :)
21:43 NCARMichael       i'm guessing Galen would have to do that for me...
21:43 cait              right
21:43 eythian           *init.d
21:42 cait              not sure, perhaps try /etc/inid.t/memcache restart ? :)
21:42 cait              hmm
21:42 cait              becuase there is a little bug
21:42 NCARMichael       how do i find that out
21:42 cait              it will also makes changes to the frameworks not appear
21:42 cait              caching tomake your server faster
21:42 wahanui           that is failed qa
21:42 NCARMichael       what is that
21:42 NCARMichael       um, dunno
21:41 cait              are you using memcache?
21:41 cait              ok, that should work
21:41 NCARMichael       when i go into subfields for 090, I have all of them set (in the "hidden" field) to 0
21:39 cait              what are the hidden fields set to?
21:38 NCARMichael       090 field and 590 fields do not show
21:38 sekjal            okay, time for me to go.  night, #koha!
21:38 NCARMichael       correction: "add MARC record"
21:34 NCARMichael       on tab 5 (for most frameworks) when i click on Edit Record
21:34 cait              it will only work for the marc views, not for the normal view
21:33 cait              NCARMichael: where do you want them to appear?
21:33 wizzyrea          did you click on the in-app help?
21:33 wizzyrea          you mean the hidden values?
21:33 wizzyrea          bye oleonard
21:33 oleonard          Bye #koha
21:32 NCARMichael       currently, they're not.
21:32 NCARMichael       what I want is for the 590 field(s) to appear.
21:32 NCARMichael       and could not make sense of the coding system
21:32 NCARMichael       i went here http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/catadmin.html
21:32 NCARMichael       question regarding "hidden" fields and subfields
21:31 wizzyrea          hiya
21:31 NCARMichael       hey gang!
21:25 * paul_p          about to go to bed
21:25 paul_p            hi #koha
21:22 wizzyrea          hi ipaul
21:21 cait              hi paul_p
21:21 wizzyrea          hawt.
21:21 wizzyrea          ok, i am totally digging fredericd's indexer daemon
21:18 huginn`           maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -5.0�C (4:00 PM EST on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
21:18 maximep           @wunder cyqb
21:16 cait              good night drojf
21:15 drojf             i give up. the internet does not like me tonight. good night #koha
21:14 drojf             duct tape did not work. now for the hammer…
21:12 wahanui           i guess git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
21:12 cait              git?
21:11 cait              there are also good notes on the wiki
21:11 cait              drojf: we could walk you through some things
21:08 drojf             turns out i did not really learn much git today. shame
20:58 Space_Librarian   lol ginger ones?
20:58 wizzyrea          too many kittens
20:58 wizzyrea          you should.
20:58 jcamins           I'm calling it a day.
20:58 jcamins           Never mind.
20:56 jcamins           Huh?
20:56 drojf             i was actually thinking that for a second. "there he is, let's take his internet!" :/
20:55 slef              drojf: it's because you're against ACTA, so you are being censored!
20:55 slef              [off] drojf: I've been pushing it a bit but also quite careful not to say I'll go anywhere because I can't on the day of my nearest (which is still 100+ miles away) :(
20:55 wizzyrea          rofl
20:54 Space_Librarian   a la - http://ldsrr91.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/computer-duck.png
20:53 drojf             thanks. if i cant repair it, i'll smash it :D
20:53 * Space_Librarian hands drojf a hammer (just in case)
20:52 drojf             heh thanks
20:52 * cait            hands drojf the duct tape
20:52 cait              ooh
20:51 drojf             yes
20:50 cait              it's kicking you out?
20:50 cait              ooh
20:50 drojf             my internet is crazy :(
20:44 drojf1            the map of anti acta demonstrations looks quite impressive. i wonder how many of these will end up as facebook protests without people actually going (sorry, google maps link) http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212120558776447282985.0004b7b33e16f13c710c7&msa=0&ie=UTF8&t=m&ll=48.748945,11.425781&spn=34.891447,57.128906&z=4&source=embed
20:41 huginn`           bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.3�C (12:39 PM PST on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling).
20:41 bag               @wunder 93109
20:41 Space_Librarian   lol. More minions?
20:40 wizzyrea          on koha, that is.
20:40 wizzyrea          it is nice to have kyle back doing stuff all the time :)
20:34 cait              not totally sure
20:34 drojf1            oh
20:34 cait              I doubt it works
20:34 cait              so if your data has euro prices...
20:34 cait              but here it's about an acq feature
20:34 cait              drojf1: yeah, that too
20:34 drojf1            cait: should that not be a variable of some kind? decimal thingy, and you choose it in the prefs?
20:33 huginn`           Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 09, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
20:33 Space_Librarian   @wunder wellington, nz
20:33 cait              it's always talking about decimal points... guess it will not work for decimal commas :(
20:33 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7112 major, P3, ---, henridamien, Needs Signoff , Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import
20:33 cait              hm bug 7112
20:32 drojf1            if you cant do it there are people to help you. if its too complicated for yourself or you have better things to do you can pay somebody. i think if neither of that is good then koha is the wrong system.
20:31 jcamins           Definitely not.
20:31 drojf1            but its not :(
20:30 drojf1            but then, if you have not much knowledge of computers, but you have a running windows machine, that might sound like a good idea
20:30 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -10.3�C (9:25 PM CET on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035.1 hPa (Steady).
20:30 cait              @wunder Konstanz
20:30 * cait            is still thawing from her little walk
20:30 cait              what are you discussing?
20:29 cait              ^^
20:29 drojf1            i dont see why you would want to run anything you want to be accessed from the internet on a windows machine
20:29 sekjal            I don't see any good reason to make Koha run on Windows, myself.  Nor Mac OS X.  installing a Debian server really isn't that horrifically hard
20:29 wizzyrea          or a feature that they want that isn't compatible with 2.2
20:29 sekjal            jcamins:  true enough
20:28 jcamins           Hi cait.
20:28 wizzyrea          hi cait!
20:28 jcamins           sekjal: usable up until they hit a problem, at which point they have an unusable system that no one can help them with.
20:28 sekjal            hi, cait
20:28 cait              hi drojf1, jcamins, sekjal and wizzyrea :)
20:28 wizzyrea          that's more pain than I want to endure, but whatever.
20:28 wizzyrea          is this their way of "forcing" us to make a post 2 install available for windows?
20:28 jcamins           Hi cait.
20:28 drojf1            hi cait :)
20:28 sekjal            less important than having the software installed and (hopefully) usable
20:28 cait              hi all :)
20:28 cait              ?
20:27 jcamins           Though I guess whoever these people are they don't put much stock in sharing.
20:27 jcamins           True, but then you're all alone.
20:27 sekjal            if Windows is all you're familiar with, then it may seem easier to force Koha to run on it rather than learn *Nix
20:26 jcamins           Goodness only knows.
20:25 drojf1            why would one want to run koha on windows?
20:21 jcamins           I guess these are the people indradg was talking about- they've suddenly decided to start promoting Koha on Windows heavily.
20:20 Space_Librarian   yes, it came up in conversation last week, methinks
20:20 jcamins           Pre-3, certainly.
20:20 jcamins           Ah, there's an image of the Koha interface.
20:19 * jcamins         is waiting to find out.
20:19 sekjal            jcamins: but what version of Koha?
20:19 jcamins           On Windows 7.
20:19 jcamins           sekjal: October.
20:19 jcamins           Space_Librarian: the last version that works on Windows was 2.2.something.
20:19 Space_Librarian   or even earlier
20:19 Space_Librarian   3.2 or something
20:18 Space_Librarian   I thought that was for an old version
20:18 sekjal            jcamins: how recent?
20:18 Space_Librarian   ?!
20:18 jcamins           On Windows.
20:18 jcamins           There is a video tutorial for installing Koha.
20:17 wahanui           Wait, is it only in items?
20:17 jcamins           Wait, what?
20:17 jcamins           Well I'll be.
20:08 Space_Librarian   morning wizzyrea
20:06 wizzyrea          I haven't read much about it today
20:06 wizzyrea          didn't romania and czechoslovakia go in and then out of those negotiations?
20:03 wizzyrea          mornin Space_Librarian
20:03 wizzyrea          ugh.
20:03 wizzyrea          I mean, not yay.
20:00 wizzyrea          YAY.
20:00 slef              and for those of you in the US, your government is doing fast+secret trade treaty negotiations again! https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8229
19:59 slef              https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/dear-hollywood-open-letter-hardworking-men-and-women-entertainment-industries
19:58 Space_Librarian   morning #koha
19:56 slef              it's just above the save and preview buttons?
19:52 drojf1            makes sense. i didn't even see a field for that. not much wiki experience
19:51 slef              drojf1: thanks. It makes the emails from the wiki more informative.
19:46 drojf1            slef: ah. will do that next time
19:44 magnuse           jcamins++
19:44 * jcamins         did a bunch!
19:43 magnuse           too many new patches, not enough signoffs ;-) http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/gbsd/gbsd9/hourlystatus-gbsd9.txt (and yes, i'm guilty too!)
19:43 slef              Nurse!
19:43 slef              ahem
19:43 slef              of course!
19:43 slef              that was the other one
19:43 slef              aha! THUMPER!
19:40 slef              drojf1: please summarise wiki edits
19:40 slef              hehe, the two that are me telling off another former colleague
19:38 slef              I must tell its former owner
19:38 slef              It cracks me up
19:38 slef              yes
19:37 magnuse           a very particular rabbit, then
19:37 magnuse           heh
19:37 slef              three are mChicago, who I worked with; two are me
19:36 slef              yes
19:36 slef              magnuse: wow. Any of them me?
19:35 magnuse           wow, "tantumbunky" has 5 hits on google?
19:32 jcamins           Heh.
19:32 jcamins           Whoops, I meant that to be directed to slef.
19:32 wizzyrea          hehe
19:32 slef              rabbit was replaced with a cluster and they had names of particular rabbits. peter, brer, roger, tantumbunky and I'm sure there was one more.
19:32 wizzyrea          as long as it includes dumplings, we'll be cool.
19:32 wizzyrea          sure, why not
19:31 jcamins           wizzyrea: what about stone? I guess it's stone soup, though.
19:31 wizzyrea          is appealing to me :P
19:31 wizzyrea          i mean, the idea of stew in general
19:31 wizzyrea          yum
19:31 slef              wizzyrea: we had beef, lamb, rabbit and veggie that I remember.
19:30 slef              wizzyrea: they were actually stew-inspired.
19:28 wizzyrea          oh.
19:28 JesseM            :P
19:27 bag               we are having THE fun
19:27 wizzyrea          whut
19:27 trea              i'ts how i stay unique
19:27 * jcamins         waits expectantly.
19:27 trea              i refuse to participate.
19:27 bag               heh ;)
19:27 jcamins           Oh, and JesseM and NateC are here too.
19:27 wizzyrea          !
19:27 * jcamins         waits for bag, trea, and ago43 to change their nicks.
19:13 * wizzyrea        imagines your bovine inspired server, giggles
19:12 slef              I once called a server beef without realising that's a valid hex number. Which caused some fun.
19:11 slef              which is evil bad and wrong as a domain name but meh
19:11 wahanui           OK, slef.
19:11 slef              wahanui: 2012 is the International Year of Co-operatives http://www.2012.coop/
19:11 wahanui           OK, slef.
19:11 slef              wahanui: co-ops are the bomb found at http://www.ica.coop/
19:11 wahanui           OK, slef.
19:11 slef              wahanui: a Dolly Parton business case is one that looks impressive at first sight but on closer inspection is incredible because it has insufficient support.
19:08 wahanui           rumour has it C# is like making an octopus by nailing extra legs onto a dog - no-one is happy with the result and especially not the dog
19:08 jcamins           C#?
19:08 wahanui           OK, slef.
19:08 slef              wahanui: C# is like making an octopus by nailing extra legs onto a dog - no-one is happy with the result and especially not the dog.
19:07 wahanui           OK, slef.
19:07 slef              wahanui: public domain is if you break it, you get to keep both pieces.
19:07 wahanui           slef: i'm not following you...
19:07 slef              wahanui: public domain means if you break it, you get to keep both pieces.
19:06 wahanui           OK, slef.
19:06 slef              wahanui: a Swiss Army Chainsaw is very useful but when you get it wrong, it will take your leg off.
19:06 wahanui           slef: bugger all, i dunno
19:06 slef              wahanui: Swiss Army Chainsaw?
19:06 slef              very cool, but quite Swiss Army Chainsaw
19:05 slef              like: ul attr="value">li*10
19:05 maximep           cool stuff
19:05 maximep           anyway, it looks a lot like jquery selectors, so I will probably remember it
19:04 slef              nah, I use xpath more and it's deffo not that
19:04 slef              hey I said I don't remember :)
19:04 maximep           hmmm maybe it's xpath
19:04 slef              but maybe I don't write as evil css as I could
19:03 maximep           something[attribute] u mean ?
19:03 slef              at least I don't think they're css syntax
19:03 slef              which if you write marcxml, you will need to do
19:03 slef              or adding attributes to html tags
19:03 slef              except when it isn't, like producing lots of li items
19:03 maximep           but maybe I will forget it exists :p
19:02 maximep           it's css syntax
19:02 maximep           well there's really nothing to remember
18:59 slef              maximep: ah good! If you're like me, you'll have forgotten the syntax by then!
18:58 slef              I just cited Cuba as an example of democracy to someone in the US. I wonder what will happen next.
18:58 maximep           now I can't wait until I have a use for it
18:58 slef              damn, I knew I shouldn't be sharing our secret sauce ;)
18:44 * maximep         just installed zen-coding for his editor and is loving it
18:42 * jcamins         tries to do the Twitter thing.
18:35 slef              emacs zen-coding
18:33 oleonard          Back later.
18:33 wizzyrea          ok lunch.
18:32 wizzyrea          CURSE CURSE CURSE
18:32 * wizzyrea        curses them
18:32 libsysguy         i have a lot of friends that only code in C#
18:32 libsysguy         ^^
18:31 * wizzyrea        curses people who develop only using windows .net
18:31 wizzyrea          meh.
18:31 jcamins           That's like an XML editor, but includes a kitchen sinnk.
18:31 libsysguy         its like an operating system
18:30 libsysguy         emacs
18:30 jcamins           It's like an XML editor, with less XML-y-ness.
18:30 jcamins           Well, vim.
18:30 * jcamins         too.
18:29 * slef            exports to marcxml and uses an xml editor
18:28 slef              why?
18:28 wizzyrea          gah I really need to get stupid marcedit working somewhere.
18:22 slef              cool
18:22 slef              yeah, just those
18:22 slef              I guess I should check What Links Here on today's meeting page
18:22 slef              ok I think I've added it to two places where it should be (today's meeting page, and the IRC Meetings page)
18:17 * jcamins         didn't actually finish reading the notes, though, so he didn't see an answer.
18:17 * jcamins         asked, and then noticed that at least one other person had asked during the meeting.
18:17 jcamins           Nope.
18:17 jcamins           Wow.
18:17 jcamins           That's next month already?
18:17 slef              I thought you were just niggling me :)
18:16 jcamins           Cool.
18:16 jcamins           Ah, there actually was a reason.
18:16 slef              hehha
18:16 wahanui           hackfest is slowly seing hackers leaving...
18:16 slef              hackfest
18:16 * jcamins         waits for slef to ask why it isn't the second Wednesday.
18:16 * slef            edits the wiki
18:16 slef              just spotted it
18:16 slef              ah topic
18:15 jcamins           21 March.
18:15 slef              No next meeting set last night? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_Meeting,_8_February_2012
18:14 slef              mah, I'm just an internet innocent
18:14 jcamins           I was going to say that doesn't seem like a good idea.
18:14 wizzyrea          possibly the cutest thing I've ever seen: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwu94sgT4K1qiqo40o1_250.gif
18:14 slef              there's a lot more porn around than when I last used one in 1999
18:13 jcamins           Ah.
18:13 * jcamins         needs a source of CC-licensed cute cat pictures.
18:13 slef              serves a random image off the web
18:13 jcamins           A random image server?
18:13 wizzyrea          lol those are cute
18:13 slef              by the way, I tried a random image server last week
18:13 jcamins           Heh.
18:13 slef              jcamins: http://invisiblecats.com/ ?
18:12 slef              (10h ago, for those of you not in +0000)
18:12 jcamins           wizzyrea: that was the sound of everyone rushing to look at cute cat pictures. :)
18:12 slef              today started at something like 0811 and I've only just sat down to read email
18:12 slef              feels a bit like it :)
18:11 wizzyrea          boom?
18:11 slef              boom
17:45 * wizzyrea        tried to but ended up fixing the patch instead
17:45 wizzyrea          quality > quantity?
17:45 * jcamins         signed off on stuff.
17:44 wizzyrea          I consider it good that we're doing our best to keep bugs out
17:44 wizzyrea          well it is bug squashing day, sometimes squashing bugs happens *before* it gets into koha
17:43 * oleonard        has worked all morning on Koha and has only increased the number of 'needs signoff' bugs...
17:38 * oleonard        almost did the same thing
17:38 jcamins           ;)
17:38 jcamins           I am available at 9pm tonight.
17:38 jcamins           Unfortunately, I rearranged my schedule to make the meeting on the wrong day.
17:38 oleonard          The meeting chair proposed it for mysterious reasons.
17:38 jcamins           And, for the record, I rearranged my schedule to make the meeting.
17:38 * jcamins         doesn't care.
17:37 oleonard          You could have objected if you'd been there :P
17:37 jcamins           March 21? Isn't it usually the second Wednesday?
17:14 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6713 critical, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , marc import not matching
17:14 jcamins           See, hdl's report on bug 6713 is a perfect example of something that would be fixed by a rewrite of C4::Search.
17:13 wizzyrea          lol
17:13 jcamins           wizzyrea: how's it going? :P
17:09 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms
17:09 * jcamins         signs off on bug 6299, again.
17:01 jcamins           oleonard: good idea.
17:00 jcamins           Hm, yes, that would help.
17:00 oleonard          jcamins: Ask again in 4 minutes
17:00 wizzyrea          it would be going better if I could get 5 minutes in a row to look at it
16:59 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
16:59 jcamins           wizzyrea: how goes your testing of bug 7284?
16:58 kf                bye all :)
16:56 wizzyrea          it's not good or bad, it just is.
16:56 wizzyrea          :)
16:56 wizzyrea          ^^ is always the reason
16:54 huginn`           jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
16:54 jcamins           @quote get 123
16:54 jcamins           maximep: for some reason?
16:53 maximep           for some reason your client wants it like is was :S
16:53 maximep           haha
16:53 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4433 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, $a displayed in front of topical subjects in authority search
16:53 maximep           bug 4433
16:52 * jcamins         isn't sure whether he should be glad or not.
16:52 maximep           yes
16:52 jcamins           maximep: was I right about where it would be?
16:51 maximep           now to look at who/when/why changed it
16:50 jcamins           Hm.
16:50 jcamins           Ah.
16:50 maximep           in 3.6 $heading.= $field->as_string('abvxyz68');
16:50 maximep           in 3.2           $heading.= $field->as_formatted();
16:50 reiveune          bye
16:50 jcamins           What is it?
16:49 maximep           aaaaaaaah found it
16:46 gaetan_B          bye #koha!
16:44 maximep           ok, will look at it
16:43 jcamins           It would be in BuildSummary.
16:43 jcamins           maximep: if there's a change, it wouldn't be in SearchAuthorities.
16:43 maximep           so should be using all the same stuff
16:43 jcamins           Bug 7284 won't fix that, but is still worth trying again. :P
16:43 maximep           just switched my symlink from 3.6 to 3.2
16:43 jcamins           maximep: hm.
16:42 maximep           nope, not my data
16:42 jcamins           I knew it.
16:42 jcamins           :D
16:42 jcamins           Excellent!!!!
16:42 jcamins           You do?!?
16:42 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
16:42 jcamins           Don't you want to test bug 7284?
16:42 jcamins           maximep: but, while we're on the subject of authorities...
16:42 * jcamins         is pretty sure it's your data.
16:41 maximep           might be something in my data
16:41 maximep           C4::AuthorieisMarc::SearchAuthorities is the same from what I see
16:40 maximep           staff
16:40 jcamins           $9 at the beginning versus at the end?
16:40 jcamins           maximep: are you sure that it's not a difference in the data?
16:40 kf                maximep: authority search in opac or staff?
16:40 kf                ?
16:39 maximep           the authorities search would output $ in front of results in 3.2, but doesn't seem to do it in 3.6. Any idea of why or how I could find out what changed ?
16:35 jcamins           It's a good mantra.
16:35 kf                jcamins: I might steal it from you :)
16:35 kf                oleonard++
16:35 jcamins           oleonard++
16:35 jcamins           Ooooh.
16:34 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6919 major, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Implementing XSLTResultsDisplay
16:34 * oleonard        has signed off on Bug 6919 but proposed a follow-up too which needs signoff
16:34 jcamins           kf: it's my mantra. Stolen from rangi.
16:34 * kf              finally looked up kaizen
16:32 jcamins           Kaizen.
16:31 jcamins           (IMHO)
16:31 jcamins           "Maintain strict MVC separation" pretty much covers it.
16:30 kf                one could always add to these - they are on the bug or open discussion to incorporate another idea into the coding guidelines
16:30 jcamins           (to spend time planning)
16:30 * jcamins         is perfectly happy to accept any clear guidelines that are offered, but doesn't care enough.
16:30 kf                sekjal: there have already been some points made
16:30 sekjal            like having two layers:  DB access modules, and functional modules
16:30 kf                sekjal: I think overplanning it will make it never happen
16:29 sekjal            I think we need, as a group, to plan out some of the larger structural choices around the new Koha:: namespace
16:29 jcamins           And rewriting C4::Search to not suck
16:29 jcamins           sekjal: but that was just for moving C4::Search to Koha::Search.
16:29 sekjal            that's the important part
16:29 sekjal            yes
16:28 jcamins           But keeping the community.
16:28 sekjal            s/a lot like//;
16:28 jcamins           sekjal: it would indeed.
16:28 sekjal            moving to Koha:: would be a lot like rewriting the whole software package
16:28 jcamins           oleonard: for good reason!
16:27 oleonard          Many an adventurer have eyed that lofty peak, but none have dared challenge it.
16:27 jcamins           Depending on exactly what the parameters were, probably 20k+.
16:27 jcamins           libsysguy: a lot.
16:26 libsysguy         how much would it cost (jw not offering lol)
16:26 jcamins           libsysguy: that's the plan.
16:25 libsysguy         while you're at it you can just move it over to the Koha:: namespace
16:25 jcamins           libsysguy: that may be, but who is going to sponsor it?
16:25 libsysguy         haha aww jcamins I think your're the perfect guy to rewite C$::Search
16:24 * jcamins         won't be rewriting C4::Search anytime soon, but it's nice to imagine.
16:23 jcamins           hdl: does BibLibre have a preferred query parsing library?
16:23 jcamins           *library
16:23 jcamins           What would be a really good idea is using some sort of query parsing liberary.
16:21 jcamins           oleonard: right. We use CCL in the OPAC because it's easier, but it's probably not a good idea.
16:20 hdl               you would have to use cgroups imho
16:20 jcamins           hdl: if you have sixteen idle processors, might as well use 'em all, though. ;)
16:20 hdl               But problem is that zebraidx is really proc consuming
16:20 jcamins           hdl: I was thinking for a complete rebuild.
16:20 jcamins           oleonard: right.
16:20 tcohen            i mean, the chunks have empty intersection of records between
16:20 oleonard          Okay, so the the intranet version is preferred. That's what I needed to know jcamins
16:20 hdl               in fact, it works, since we acidentally have had some rebuild_zebra runing in //
16:19 jcamins           The version in the OPAC is potentially ambiguous and uses CCL (which sucks).
16:19 jcamins           oleonard: the version in the intranet is unambiguous and avoids CCL (which sucks).
16:19 tcohen            because of the way shadow registers are commited
16:19 oleonard          jcamins: ?
16:18 tcohen            but no record overlap
16:18 jcamins           It was more idle curiosity than anything else, though.
16:18 hdl               jcamins: i would not advise to run parallel indexing.
16:18 jcamins           tcohen: yeah, that was my thought.
16:18 tcohen            jcamins: I think it should be possible, taking care of using shadow registers
16:18 jcamins           oleonard: 'cause we hate the OPAC?
16:18 oleonard          Are they functionally identical?
16:18 oleonard          Anyone know if there's a reason why OPAC built-in author searches end in 'q=au:"Author name"' and intranet ones end in '?idx=au&q=Author name' ?
16:17 jcamins           Nor have I.
16:16 tcohen            never tried it
16:15 jcamins           tcohen: right.
16:15 tcohen            jcamins: do u mean processing different chunks with different processes?
16:15 mib_63rhkq        It's just the first time an account is created it fails.
16:14 mib_63rhkq        I am happy the LDAP part is working as the account is acutally created and if you click "Log In" again it will log in correctly
16:14 mib_63rhkq        I am using Novell LDAP
16:14 mib_63rhkq        So, editing the opac-user.pl script to add a "print Content-type: text/html\n" makes this work - the screen looks terrible though as it dumps session info to the header
16:13 libsysguy         and are you using ADLDAP or openLDAP?
16:10 mib_63rhkq        libsysguy: I am just using replicate
16:09 mib_63rhkq        ^^ is the exact error
16:09 maximep           oh wow, misread that you already told us
16:09 mib_63rhkq        malformed header from script. Bad header=------------------------------: opac-user.pl, referer:
16:08 mib_63rhkq        yes, the error is " Malformed header, Bad header :--------------------------------" opac-user.pl
16:08 jcamins           mib_63rhkq: I meant having Zebra indexing on two (or more) cores.
16:07 libsysguy         ^^
16:07 maximep           mib_63rhkq: is there an error in your koha opac error log?
16:07 mib_63rhkq        jcamins: 2 indexing running together?
16:07 drojf             *fix
16:07 libsysguy         mib_63rhkq: so you're using update and replicate?
16:07 drojf             no idea of ldap, but if you can't fox it make a nice custom http 500 screen. sorry for not being more helpful
16:07 libsysguy         shudders at the thought
16:07 jcamins           Has anyone ever tried parallelizing rebuild_zebra?
16:06 * jcamins         has never used LDAP with Koha, sorry.
16:06 mib_63rhkq        and ideas?
16:06 mib_63rhkq        The second login works fine. The error logs shows "Bad header :--------------------------------" opac-user.pl
16:06 mib_63rhkq        Hi, I have a 3.06.02 site that uses LDAP for account creation. The account is auto creating fine but the user gets a HTTP 500 screen on first login?
15:52 tcohen            :-P
15:52 tcohen            I should have let gmail choose the right address instead of typing it
15:52 kf                ah right
15:52 paul_p            it's koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
15:52 tcohen            exactly :-D
15:52 paul_p            this ML does not exist !!!
15:52 paul_p            tcohen you sent the mail to koha@lists.koha-community.org
15:51 kf                tcohen: you are subscribed with this email?
15:50 tcohen            koha-devel@lists.. didnt reject
15:50 jcamins           tcohen: that's weird. On your message about caching?
15:49 tcohen            Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table (state 14).
15:49 libsysguy         I just moved the database over from prod
15:49 jcamins           tcohen: FWIW, I think the memoization modification that you proposed sounds brilliant, but I'm not an expert in memoization.
15:49 libsysguy         oh heck no
15:49 jcamins           tcohen: yeah, just looking at your e-mail now.
15:48 jcamins           Please tell me that you aren't doing this on production, libsysguy.
15:48 tcohen            is it ok?
15:48 tcohen            koha@lists.koha-community.org
15:47 libsysguy         that kills a good 6 hours
15:47 libsysguy         oh I never just hit the nuke button on a reindex
15:46 jcamins           Right. Just the authorities.
15:46 * jcamins         hopes he said that before you started the reindex.
15:46 libsysguy         ok not reindexing the bibs
15:46 jcamins           Don't reindex the bibs.
15:46 jcamins           Leave the bibs!
15:46 jcamins           No, the bibs are fine.
15:46 libsysguy         all harry potter
15:46 jcamins           Just the authorities.
15:46 libsysguy         i should just delete all my bibs except for like 10
15:46 libsysguy         oh god...WHYYY
15:45 jcamins           Good, so now you just have to install the Zebra configs and reindex
15:45 libsysguy         i did run the atomic update :p
15:44 jcamins           It's a big feature. What can I say?
15:44 libsysguy         haha, yeah maybe you should have considered a tl;dr section
15:44 kf                I almost missed them too :)
15:44 jcamins           Which, granted, is the length of a Tolstoy novel.
15:43 tcohen            here we go
15:43 libsysguy         and now I feel retarded
15:43 jcamins           Also mentioned in the commit message, I think.
15:43 jcamins           Yup.
15:43 wahanui           jcamins: i'm not following you...
15:43 jcamins           wahanui: lol!
15:43 libsysguy         was it in the ticket?
15:43 libsysguy         so no...really i missed that
15:43 libsysguy         NEVER!!
15:43 wahanui           instructions are coming right now to the wiki near you
15:43 libsysguy         instructions!
15:42 jcamins           Did you follow the instructions that said "be sure to install such-and-such files in etc/zebradb"?
15:41 libsysguy         well I suppose I can search...nothing that I have searched for has turned up any results
15:40 jcamins           And are you able to search for authorities in the web client?
15:40 libsysguy         it just overflows the screen with that
15:40 jcamins           Ah.
15:40 libsysguy         oAuth error: Database unavailable (109) authorities Bib-1
15:38 libsysguy         i know it was something to that effect
15:37 libsysguy         let me verify taht is what it said
15:37 jcamins           Are you sure you have KOHA_CONF set properly?
15:37 jcamins           Unable to connect to database?
15:37 jcamins           Uh-oh.
15:37 libsysguy         and I kept getting this weird unable to connect to database error
15:37 jcamins           Tell them to fix that.
15:36 jcamins           lol
15:36 libsysguy         so I was testing out the linker script
15:36 libsysguy         yes I do have something against normal business hours...my job never lets me work on KOha during them
15:36 libsysguy         heyyy
15:35 jcamins_away      libsysguy: I am here.
15:19 * oleonard        grumbles that now he has to go figure out how to do that :)
15:18 * wizzyrea        tries to figure out why this db update won't fire.
15:17 wizzyrea          then yes, I'd probably add them
15:17 wizzyrea          ohhh
15:17 oleonard          It's not a question of removing them but adding them to the XSLT results display
15:17 wizzyrea          but that's almost certainly not a reason to remove them. Heh.
15:17 wizzyrea          hehe that's what I was thinking too... might cut down on support calls >.>
15:16 wizzyrea          not sure if that's necessarily a reason to keep them
15:16 oleonard          If we took out the numbers you could say "It's not, it's number 9" and they turn back to count and you'd run away.
15:16 wizzyrea          without the numbers, they'd have to count
15:16 wizzyrea          I get a lot of "why is x result number 10 on the list"
15:15 oleonard          I wonder if people like having numbers on the staff client search results
15:15 oleonard          Hi wizzyrea
15:15 * wizzyrea        waves
15:08 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6919 major, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Implementing XSLTResultsDisplay
15:08 * oleonard        is preparing a follow-up for Bug 6919 for MARC21
14:36 tcohen            precise pangolin, the next ubuntu
14:36 magnuse           https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin
14:36 kf                ubuntu
14:36 kf                oh
14:36 drojf1            lol
14:36 kf                pangolin?
14:36 * oleonard        can't get his pangolin to even color inside the lines
14:35 gmcharlt          precise pangolin
14:33 magnuse           "broken on precise"?
14:31 tcohen            git-email broken on precise
14:07 kf                :P
14:07 magnuse           almost 10 degrees warmer here :-)
14:06 huginn`           kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -6.6�C (3:04 PM CET on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 30.52 in 1033.4 hPa (Falling).
14:06 kf                @wunder Konstanz
14:06 kf                magnuse++
13:59 magnuse           and here are the hourly stats for gbsd#9 so far: http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/gbsd/gbsd9/hourlystatus-gbsd9.txt
13:59 magnuse           yay ;-)
13:59 oleonard          magnuse++
13:58 * magnuse         thinks all the twitter feeds from gbsd should be restored now
13:57 drojf1            that's novell ;)
13:56 mib_63rhkq        I've had no problem with AD, but Novell isn't playing nice
13:55 * oleonard        ...beyond unfulfilled promises of a certain former vendor CEO who shall not be named
13:55 magnuse           yeah, that would be very cool!
13:55 * oleonard        doesn't know anything about Koha's LDAP
13:55 oleonard          Maybe we should have a list on the wiki of "who uses X obscure feature of Koha" for question referrals.
13:54 mib_63rhkq        Anyone know if the Auth_with_ldap module minds if the LDAP server is Novell?
13:50 magnuse           probably won't hurt ;-)
13:47 drojf1            getting awake a little would definitely help with learning git
13:47 magnuse           sounds like a good idea!
13:45 drojf1            we have sun too. i wonder if i should go out a little
13:45 huginn`           oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 2.0�C (8:40 AM EST on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady).
13:45 oleonard          @wunder 45701
13:44 magnuse           and the sun is shining again - life is good!
13:43 magnuse           warmer in bod� than in marseille!
13:43 huginn`           magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 0.0�C (2:30 PM CET on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
13:43 magnuse           @wunder marseille
13:42 magnuse           even better!
13:42 huginn`           tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 19.0�C (10:21 AM ART on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
13:42 tcohen            @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:42 magnuse           heh, that's better
13:42 huginn`           magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0�C (2:20 PM CET on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.69 in 1039 hPa (Steady).
13:42 magnuse           @wunder boo
13:40 drojf1            warmish :)
13:39 huginn`           drojf1: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -3.7�C (2:12 PM CET on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.75 in 1041.2 hPa (Falling).
13:39 drojf1            @wunder berlin, germany
13:34 magnuse           np tcohen
13:34 tcohen            thanks magnuse
13:30 magnuse           http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2012/koha.2012-02-08-02.00.html
13:30 magnuse           and "discussion mails will be sent to both koha-devel and koha main mailing list"
13:30 magnuse           the meetbot minutes say: "discussion mails will be flagged [Discussion Tech] [Discussion Feature] so folks that don't wish to follow a thread can easily delete"
13:29 tcohen            hi oleonard
13:29 oleonard          We did.
13:28 tcohen            i missed the irc meeting, hope you reached a procedure for desition making on discussed topic
13:27 tcohen            hi #koha
13:24 magnuse           g'day #koha
13:23 oleonard          Hi #koha
12:24 jcamins_away      Bye.
12:24 jcamins_away      I'll be back from uptown in a few hours.
12:24 jcamins_away      Only a few minutes late to get to the city.
12:17 jcamins_away      :(
12:15 kf                finding time is a bit hard at the moment :(
12:15 kf                it's on my list too - but happy if you beat me to it
12:15 jcamins_away      Or do it tonight.
12:15 jcamins_away      kf: exactly. I might have to leave it for someone else to test.
12:14 drojf1            i could have #koha there too, i would take my notebook. but yes, less rl distractions ;)
12:14 kf                and you have to wait
12:14 kf                I can imagine
12:14 kf                ah
12:14 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7432 critical, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Changing frameworks should refresh cache
12:14 jcamins_away      Testing bug 7432 is really hard on a bus.
12:14 jcamins_away      Hm.
12:14 kf                nicer distractions like #koha? ;)
12:14 kf                jcamins_away: I am curious too :)
12:13 drojf1            less distractions. well s/less distractions/nicer distractions :D
12:13 jcamins_away      kf: I look forward to hearing what you find.
12:13 kf                jcamins_away: sorry, it took me too long this morning to finish my notes on the distance study course - but will continue testng your linker tonight
12:13 drojf1            and work from home
12:13 drojf1            *about
12:13 drojf1            guess i will call my boss to get some details acout the account and then have a look
12:13 kf                our libraries are partcipating in the union catalog, so we get the authorities from there
12:12 kf                only bibliographic records
12:12 kf                [off] if you have an account, you can perhaps download them - but Koha can't download authorities via 239.50
12:12 drojf1            [off] i think we have an account now, but unfortunately my colleague has better things to do than talking to me
12:11 kf                what do you want to do?
12:11 kf                but I can ask my coworker
12:11 kf                hmm no
12:11 drojf1            kf: do you know anything about getting authorities from dnb?
12:10 drojf1            should have pushed harder :P
12:10 jcamins_away      I am now on a different bus.
12:08 jcamins_away      lol
12:07 * kf              giggles at the image
12:07 drojf1            he's probably push-starting the bus right now ;)
12:01 kf                hi jcamins_away
12:01 kf                oh
11:57 jcamins           And the bus broke down.
11:41 huginn`           jcamins: The operation succeeded.
11:41 jcamins           @later tell libsysguy Do you have something against normal business hours? :P I should be around today 10/10:30-4 EST and then 6/7-late EST.
11:39 * jcamins_away    looks in from the bus.
11:26 kf                gbsd is still on!! :)
11:26 kf                hi paul_p
11:16 mib_63rhkq        Nope, nothing at all - strange
10:47 alex_a            mib_63rhkq: nothing in /var/log/apache2 ?
10:38 mib_63rhkq        yeah - nothing in either logs and the screen!
10:36 alex_a            and opac-user.pl from command line is too verbose because writing all html ouput :)
10:34 alex_a            else could be written in /var/log/apache2/error.log
10:32 alex_a            s/direction/directive/
10:32 alex_a            mib_63rhkq: take a look at ErrorLog direction from apache virtualhost. Usualy logs message go in site_dir/var/log/koha-error_log or koha-opac-error_log
10:30 mib_63rhkq        alex_a: Thanks, I have tried both! Not even sure where it should be logging. I tried running opac-user.pl from command line after setting DEBUG but still nothing related to LDAP appears!
10:29 alex_a            otherwise you change $debug and warn 'xxxx' by warn 'xxxx' :)
10:27 alex_a            mib_63rhkq: you can add a setenv directive in apache virtualhost i think ?
10:12 mib_63rhkq        Anyone around that might know how to set debug on LDAP authentication? I have tried setting the C4::Debug::debug=1 but isn't working!
09:36 kf                haven't read the logs yet
09:36 kf                no surprise
09:23 drojf1            seems we missed a rather small and short meeting
09:23 drojf1            moin kf :)
09:22 drojf1            good day #koha
09:15 kf                good morning #koha
08:42 Amit_Gupta        heya gaten_B
08:39 Suzzane           hi Paul
08:14 gaetan_B          hello #koha!
08:11 Suzzane           somebody, anybody....help
08:11 sheikh303         need the same assistance here too!!
08:10 Suzzane           kindly advice on my above stated issue
08:09 Suzzane           Hi Amit...
08:09 francharb         morning #koha
08:05 asaurat           hi!!
08:05 Amit_Gupta        heya Suzzane, asaurat
08:02 Suzzane           anybody home.....
07:59 Suzzane           kindly advice
07:59 Suzzane           it looks so technical
07:59 Suzzane           am trying to configure the systems preferences and am stuck at OPAC
07:58 Suzzane           Hi everyone
07:52 wahanui           salut, julian_m
07:52 julian_m          hello
07:51 sheikh303         need a good tutorial on System Preferences configuration of koha!!
07:46 sophie_m          hello #koha
07:44 cait              brb
07:44 cait              hi alex_a and reiveune :)
07:38 wahanui           hello, reiveune
07:38 reiveune          hello
07:38 wahanui           alex_a: huh?
07:38 alex_a            privet, wahanui
07:38 wahanui           privet, alex_a
07:38 alex_a            hello
06:04 huginn`           Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 14.0�C (10:30 AM IST on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
06:04 Amit_Gupta        @wunder New Delhi
06:04 huginn`           Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 10.0�C (8:30 AM IST on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa.
06:04 Amit_Gupta        @wunder Dehradun
06:03 Amit_Gupta        heya cait :)
06:03 huginn`           Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 19.0�C (8:30 AM IST on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 17.0�C.
06:03 Amit_Gupta        @wunder Bangalore
05:57 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -10.2�C (6:54 AM CET on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Rising).
05:57 cait              @wunder Konstanz
05:42 libsysguy         ok guys im out for the night…gnight #Koha
05:40 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , Parcel closing in acq
05:40 libsysguy         and just adding bug 5339 as a block
05:39 libsysguy         yeah that is what I was thinking about
05:39 cait              you could test and perhaps built on it
05:39 cait              not sure it has both dates you wanted
05:39 cait              oh
05:39 libsysguy         I just have to have this patch done for a project in one of my classes
05:39 libsysguy         ill keep an eye on that bug so I can see when it gets pushed
05:38 libsysguy         i can just revert my work
05:37 cait              I knew it was there
05:37 cait              in terms of search *sigh*
05:37 cait              bugzilla is not really like koha
05:37 libsysguy         its ok…what i've done didn't take much time
05:37 cait              broader terms are better in my experiecne :(
05:37 libsysguy         :-\
05:37 libsysguy         I should probably just get better at searching for bugs
05:37 libsysguy         i did a search for shipment date and invoice date
05:36 libsysguy         yeah…I didn't think to look for parcel
05:36 cait              alll I did was a search for invoices
05:36 libsysguy         i filed then started working
05:36 cait              and search bugzilla
05:36 libsysguy         oh I did
05:35 libsysguy         lol yeah you know I work quick :p
05:35 cait              that's why you should file the bug first ;)
05:35 cait              yeah I thought so
05:35 cait              paul_p asked me to test the functionality but I had no time, so he suggested to move to in discussion for the table name
05:35 libsysguy         I was actaully almost done with the bug that I submitted
05:35 libsysguy         ok
05:35 cait              but I think having a separate table is a good idea
05:34 cait              the table name is only a small bit, it waits still for testing mostly
05:34 libsysguy         I am not very familiar with that section of Koha
05:34 cait              it sure looks very interesting
05:34 libsysguy         is that ready to go or is it still waiting on table modifications
05:34 cait              but had no time yet
05:34 cait              I wanted to test it
05:34 libsysguy         I was reading through that bug report
05:34 cait              :)
05:33 libsysguy         i just saw your comment
05:33 libsysguy         hi cait
04:16 libsysguy         I am trying to add some fields and it just occurred to me that I have no idea how it actually functions
04:15 libsysguy         anybody have a good idea of how receiving a new shipment works?
03:50 huginn`           Amit_Gupta: mtj was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 19 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: * mtj waves to all
03:50 Amit_Gupta        @seen mtj
03:50 huginn`           Amit_Gupta: Amit_gupta was last seen in #koha 24 minutes and 39 seconds ago: <Amit_Gupta> heya Robin
03:50 Amit_Gupta        @seen Amit_gupta
03:44 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5568 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Upgrade Amazon module to support Product Advertising API
03:44 wahanui           OK, eythian.
03:44 eythian           wahanui: amazon reviews is <reply>they won't work until bug 5568 is fixed
03:44 wahanui           eythian: excuse me?
03:44 eythian           wahanui: amazon reviews
03:42 huginn`           BobB: mtj was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 12 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: * mtj waves to all
03:42 BobB              @seen mtj
03:27 lculber           We're giving up for tonight and going to try again tomorrow.  We think something happened today that we need to figure out and need some sleep. Thanks all.
03:25 eythian           hi there Amit_Gupta
03:25 Amit_Gupta        heya Robin
03:25 eythian           lculber: I'm kinda stumped really. It's tedious and tricky, but you could try doing the reindexing part by hand to see what's happening. Turning all the debug options you can find on.
03:23 bag               hey Amit_Gupta
03:23 Amit_Gupta        heya bag
03:22 lculber           The only thing different in the cfg files is the name of the instance name
03:21 eythian           THis change makes things harder to fix.
03:21 eythian           something has changed recently that seems to cause a reindex to not put out as much information as it should, previously it gave a summary of what it had done.
03:20 eythian           OK
03:19 lculber           and it is owned by koha
03:18 lculber           yes I see /etc/catalog/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg
03:18 * thd             must eat
03:17 eythian           well, it's more a case of "does the file exist"?
03:17 lculber           The match is a day off.  The machine that is broken is the machine that the catalogers add to.
03:17 eythian           hmm
03:16 lculber           what we found was that running rebuild -b -r  empties it out but doen't rebuild it.
03:16 eythian           and, if so, does it match what's on the machines that worked?
03:16 lculber           let me check
03:15 eythian           that's an unusal path
03:15 eythian           does /etc/catalog/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg exist?
03:15 lculber           Well - not the same data - we are missing today
03:14 lculber           What we discovered was that it wasn't writing to the the zebradb at all and the permissions are fine. So we copied over from another instance that has the same data
03:14 eythian           it shouldn't take <1 second to process 100,000 records.
03:14 eythian           uhm that's fishy
03:13 pastebot          "lculber" at pasted "output from index" (40 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/248
03:12 eythian           (using paste)
03:12 eythian           can you send the output from the last rebuild_zebra?
03:11 lculber           I actually lurked during the meeting.
03:11 lculber           Right. And we ran that which you sent during the meeting - twice.
03:11 Brooke            thanks for coming back again after the meeting :)
03:10 eythian           the only thing before the meeting was me sending you that link :)
03:09 lculber           Yes.  I've tried that, and pasted the error to the irc but it was right before the meeting.
03:08 eythian           lculber: did you try the thing in the link I sent?
03:08 libsysguy         wondering if you still wanted my code for hourly
03:08 libsysguy         nm just working on some koha patches for my class project
03:07 bag               wassup
03:07 libsysguy         sup
03:07 bag               hey
03:07 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7458 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , New call number allocation plugin
03:07 wahanui           bag was last seen on #koha 9 hours, 37 minutes and 36 seconds ago, saying: bug 7458 [Tue Feb  7 17:28:48 2012]
03:07 libsysguy         seen bag
03:07 lculber           I ran a diff and it showed nothing. And, since I'm paranoid, I had made a backup and changed it back. It didn't help.  Still broken.
03:06 eythian           you didn't happen to make an error when making the change on the third?
03:06 thd               s/to/too/ ; s/too me/to me/ ;
03:06 lculber           It was to make the call number index.  Kyle had shown us how to do it and it worked on the test server and in two instances on the production server.
03:05 eythian           lculber: what change did you make?
03:05 thd               s/too/to/
03:05 thd               perhaps eythian will help.  Zebra indexing seems a little too much like a black box for which an expedient method of killing phantom records from a previous indexing run is a mystery too me.
03:04 lculber           We had made a change to the index in the test database that worked, Then did in another instance, and it worked, and then did the exact same thing in this one, and boom!!
03:03 oleonard          See you in 10 hours #koha
03:02 eythian           lculber: what did you do that caused it to start happening?
03:02 thd               I took those as separate
03:01 Brooke            I had meant that Paul should help Linda XD
03:01 thd               Brooke: what had you meant?
03:01 Brooke            I still don't mind the kiwi plum time because it's very seldom that we don't get lots of kiwis at their time
03:01 lculber           We've still been working on it. What we've come up with is copying over from last night, and losing today.  That's the best we can do
03:01 * oleonard        is zebra-ignorant
03:01 oleonard          lculber, you'll certainly be able to get advice tomorrow
03:01 Brooke            the only equitable thing to do is rotate the time
03:01 Brooke            the meeting time is always going to favour one section of the globe
03:00 thd               never mind
03:00 Brooke            no that's not what I meant thd
03:00 thd               paul_p: I think what Brooke had meant to ask is whether there is a timeboxing trick we could use more generally.
03:00 eythian           lculber: what happened when you tried the info in that link I sent you?
03:00 Brooke            mebbe mail paul and he'll get back to ye
03:00 lculber           Yeah, me too. I've been at work 15 hours now.
03:00 oleonard          Yes, let paul_p go to bed!
03:00 paul_p            bye #koha (4AM for me)
03:00 paul_p            not now, i want my bed again ...
02:59 Brooke            can you help linda?
02:59 Brooke            heh
02:59 wahanui           I'M TAKING THE PISS OUT OF 'EM. or a ratbag.
02:59 paul_p            Brooke ?
02:59 Brooke            paul is that a trick you kow?
02:59 paul_p            that was new to me, and I see it's really efficient.
02:59 lculber           We've reindexed 5 times now
02:58 paul_p            at BibLibre, clrh help us using timeboxing
02:58 lculber           Is there anyone still up who knows how to reinitialise the whole zebra database from scratch without rebuilding the database?
02:58 Brooke            I'd rather know that no one likes summat than not know where anyone is
02:58 Brooke            which I think I'm dragging people into kicking and screaming
02:58 Brooke            I'm not fine with never voting
02:58 Brooke            I'm fine with them starting and closing
02:57 thd               oleonard: This hour generally guarantees shorter meetings but unfortunately also less participation.
02:57 paul_p            I think we should not *start* discussions during the IRC. We should *close* them
02:57 Brooke            Aedunno, I think your patch thing was substantive
02:57 paul_p            I think it's also because we hadn't too many decisions to discuss
02:57 Brooke            which helps
02:57 Brooke            but there wasn't anything on the agenda that was cagematchy
02:57 Brooke            mebbe
02:57 paul_p            is the later because of the former ?
02:56 paul_p            oleonard yep, was intimate and efficient.
02:56 Brooke            also less than an hour is a happy thing
02:56 Brooke            but I <3 them any way :)
02:56 Brooke            the kiwi ones generally are
02:56 oleonard          Thanks for being here paul_p
02:56 paul_p            yeah ! thx for this short meeting. Going to bed again !
02:56 oleonard          That meeting was...shall we say...intimate in scale.
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02:55 Brooke            #endmeeting
02:55 Brooke            #agreed Next meeting 21 March 18.00 UTC
02:55 thd               jwagner: People might have to actually use the mailing list and non-meeting IRC a bit more to communicate during the interval :)
02:55 oleonard          21st is fine with me
02:55 Brooke            any other feedback?
02:54 Brooke            might be a good thing
02:54 thd               s/Wednesday/Wednesday UTC/  # actual day varies with time zone
02:54 jwagner           Just wondering -- the meeting is normally first week, and this will be a six-week gap
02:54 paul_p            wed++ for me
02:53 Brooke            do you have an issue with 21 March jane?
02:53 thd               jwagner: I think that the issue is also that Wednesday is favoured.
02:53 thd               jwagner: A fine reason.
02:53 jwagner           For the entire week?
02:53 Brooke            if someone else wants to chair, fine by me
02:53 paul_p            lol (be it true or not ;-) )
02:52 Brooke            cause I'm going to the opera
02:52 jwagner           Why the move away from the first week in March?
02:52 paul_p            +1
02:52 thd               +1
02:52 paul_p            (will be 7PM for us)
02:52 Brooke            21 March 18.00 UTC
02:52 paul_p            21th could be fun = we could stay and have dinner while IRCing
02:51 Brooke            of course
02:51 Brooke            ah crap
02:51 paul_p            could it be the next week ? because it's the hackfest in europe
02:51 Brooke            problem with the day paul?
02:51 thd               [Test this bug for the great warm bug tester glow]
02:51 paul_p            -1
02:51 Brooke            good? +1
02:50 Brooke            I'm suggesting 14 March 18.00 UTC
02:50 paul_p            that could be a good plan with sandboxes = it will be easier to do. will do that frequently, thx thd
02:50 thd               :)
02:50 Brooke            which was settled earlier under the discussion tag thing :)
02:49 thd               paul_p: Send reminders about testing patches to the mailing list with catchy subject lines.
02:48 paul_p            (well, I think I understand and agree)
02:48 thd               old news wahanui
02:48 wahanui           thd is concerned that CCL, Pazpar2, and Zebra support should not be an either that or Solr/Lucene option.  We need CCL and Pazpar2 for metasearch and we currently need Zebra for a Z39.50/SRU server. or concerned that indentation styles which do not collapse in vim lead to overly long lines which cannot always be broken across multiple lines.
02:48 paul_p            thd ???
02:47 thd               paul_p: What we do not want and apparently do not have for these is people signing off without really taking the time to test properly.
02:47 Brooke            any other stuff?
02:47 Brooke            it'd be a damn fine day
02:47 Brooke            if we could work on either
02:46 Brooke            just like attracting people that are not professional developers associated with the project is
02:46 paul_p            agreed
02:46 Brooke            it's a sticky problem
02:46 paul_p            (still on previous topic)
02:46 paul_p            she said something like "easy or small bugs are usually fast to be signed off, but hardest ones are not"
02:45 Brooke            Did we need to review anything from last meeting?
02:45 paul_p            cait noticed a few days ago that some bugs stay "need signoff" probably because they are hard to test.
02:45 paul_p            really.
02:44 paul_p            #info more bug testers needed
02:44 Brooke            #info thanks bug squashers :D
02:44 oleonard          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-02-08_Global_bug_squashing_day
02:44 Brooke            hooray
02:43 paul_p            the pile of "need signoff" has moved from 94 to 66
02:43 Brooke            I think we've got a lot done thanks to that
02:43 paul_p            the pile of bugs pending QA has grown to 14 today. It was something like 8 yesterday.
02:43 Brooke            :)
02:42 Brooke            it's global bug squashing day
02:42 Brooke            hey, guess what
02:42 Brooke            it carries
02:42 Brooke            hopefully this will work
02:42 Brooke            okay
02:42 thd               +1
02:41 Brooke            patches even
02:41 Brooke            Bugs and Patchs as per paul's prior discussion
02:41 thd               Brooke: I am confused about the question being put to a vote.
02:40 thd               Brooke: Discussion of what?
02:40 SpaceLibrarian    +1
02:40 paul_p            +1
02:40 oleonard          +1
02:40 Brooke            if that doesn't make sense, say so and I'll try a rephrase
02:40 Brooke            all in favour +1
02:39 Brooke            Discussion will be opened over the listserv and closed at the IRC meeting but never less than a week's time for input
02:39 Brooke            question will be
02:39 Brooke            moving to vote
02:39 oleonard          No excuses for the Americans :P
02:39 paul_p            Brooke also seems that rangi & bob/irma are at a conf
02:38 Brooke            anyhow
02:38 eythian           Yeah, everyone's at Vala
02:38 Brooke            seems that Kiwis make their plum time
02:38 SpaceLibrarian    possibly because a good chunk from our side are actually in the middle of a library conference this time.
02:38 paul_p            seems...
02:37 thd               the 2 UTC hour seems about the worst for IRC participation.
02:37 Brooke            which everyone agreed with
02:37 Brooke            right
02:37 paul_p            but less than a week seems really short
02:37 SpaceLibrarian    indeed
02:37 Brooke            one hopes
02:37 paul_p            Brooke sometimes the discussion will quickly reach an agreement
02:37 Brooke            going gone
02:37 Brooke            I agree paul
02:36 Brooke            going twice
02:36 paul_p            my main concern is to have everybody able to say what they think, not everybody is at the IRC meeting
02:36 Brooke            going once
02:36 thd               :0
02:36 Brooke            not my idea, pauls :D
02:36 thd               Brooke: Your flagging idea is even better for alerting people to pay attention as opposed to ignoring.
02:36 Brooke            is there anyone here that thinks discussion should last LESS than a week?
02:35 paul_p            #idea discussion mails will be sent to both koha-devel and koha main mailing list
02:35 Brooke            I think we need to separate that a bit
02:35 Brooke            #idea discussion mails will be flagged [Discussion Tech] [Discussion Feature] so folks that don't wish to follow a thread can easily delete
02:35 paul_p            (validate or vote)
02:34 thd               paul_p: Nothing should ever preclude subsequent discussion after some time period if there is a serious issue to be discussed.
02:34 paul_p            Brooke would you suggest something like : "open the discussion until next IRC -but no less than 1 week- and validate the decision here" ?
02:33 paul_p            thd probably
02:33 SpaceLibrarian    agree with thd
02:33 thd               paul_p: Librarians should probably be alerted where library science issues are at stake but those questions are generally different from what I think you are intending.
02:33 Brooke            also, GBSD is theoretically monthly too, yes?
02:33 Brooke            but you want this to be a 2 week span
02:32 Brooke            we have meetings monthly
02:32 Brooke            okay so timelines
02:32 Brooke            that would probably help folks sort their mail and hit their delete keys sooner :)
02:32 paul_p            Brooke definetly !
02:32 paul_p            maybe there should be a specific title header, like [DISCUSSION TECH] or [DISCUSSION FEATURE]
02:31 Brooke            I think it's worth it for a lot of the things that would change functionality
02:31 paul_p            I won't argue a lot against the idea to send mail to koha main list if you think it's a good idea.
02:30 oleonard          ...hence calls for a separate user list
02:30 oleonard          I think already folks on the Koha list thing it's too technically-oriented
02:29 Brooke            I think the folks that are confused would either not take part or perhaps might learn summat
02:29 paul_p            for example, the "how to manage caching" discussion is a technical one
02:29 paul_p            Brooke agreed for some discussions, but I feel that sometimes it would just confuse
02:29 Brooke            I want to avoid programming in a vacuum at all costs.
02:28 Brooke            but I'd add the main list
02:28 paul_p            do a page / send a mail to koha-devel
02:28 Brooke            there's going to be a thread on devel according to the proposal
02:28 paul_p            oleonard in y proposition, there will be both
02:28 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7075 trivial, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, chris, In Discussion , Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0
02:28 paul_p            bug 7075 is a little bit different = seems it can't be reproduced anymore. Maybe it's not worth discussing a lot for this one. but it will at least highlight the problem
02:28 oleonard          I worry that a wiki page will not get noticed. Is a thread on the devel list not more amenable to discussions?
02:28 Brooke            I think the wiki component is done, but I could be wrong
02:28 Brooke            I don't think we've fleshed this out quite enough for a vote just yet
02:27 paul_p            then a decision, then we all know where we're going
02:27 paul_p            what do we want to do ? we need to be consistent, so this must be discussed
02:26 paul_p            they try to add caching, with different methods, and introduce some change over existing caching
02:26 Brooke            you wouldn't want to go discussing history.txt changes, yes?
02:26 jransom           Apologies for lateness (Jo Ransom - HLT)
02:26 paul_p            thd : look at 7387, 7248 and 6193
02:26 Brooke            I agree owen
02:25 oleonard          Not all bugs raise issues which don't have a clear consensus
02:25 thd               paul_p: Is discussion not useful for all bugs?  What is the special distinction which you are proposing?
02:25 Brooke            k
02:25 paul_p            Brooke not false ;-)
02:25 paul_p            I was thinking that this page would be an entry, listing all discussions. This listing would, you're right have a column "severity"
02:24 Brooke            I think you're prolly easier to understand than me at most times
02:24 Brooke            it's just a rumour, paul
02:24 Brooke            so that folks get to talking about stuff that's more important first
02:24 Brooke            perhaps further subdivided by severity
02:24 Brooke            then we can have subcategories for bugs and enhancements
02:23 paul_p            Brooke of course. Your english is rumored to be better than mine
02:23 Brooke            I'm thinking "Bug and Enhancement Discussion" Is that amenable?
02:23 Brooke            this is true
02:22 * oleonard        thinks the term "summat" is confusing to English and non-English speakers alike
02:22 Brooke            I'd like a wiki page to be called summat better than "In discussion" cause that's not terribly descriptive
02:22 paul_p            bye RA. sweet dreams
02:22 RA                Sorry but i am quiting. Bye
02:22 paul_p            I'm OK to write the wiki page explaining the problems
02:22 Brooke            first thing
02:22 Brooke            so
02:21 Brooke            okay
02:21 paul_p            there are something like 10 discussions to start already
02:21 paul_p            depending on the result of the vote, change the status of the bug to "exit" in discussion
02:21 paul_p            at the end of the timeline, if no clear agreement reached on the wiki discussion, open a vote, that would be made on the wiki page, announced on koha-devel mailing list, open for one week
02:21 paul_p            each discussion will have a timeline for everyone to argue (2 weeks ? maybe depending on the complexity of the discussion, but should never be more than 1 month)
02:21 paul_p            have a wiki page "in discussion" pointing to all pending discussion. announce all discussion to koha-devel
02:20 paul_p            I made a proposal on the wiki agenda
02:20 paul_p            so me must organize how to deal with "in discussion" to avoid having bugs staying in discussion but no discussion...
02:20 paul_p            We've recently added a "in discussion" bug status
02:19 paul_p            this one is for me too ;-)
02:19 Brooke            so I'ma say questions to slef.
02:18 thd               paul_p: non-refundable payment as security against changing one's mind.
02:18 paul_p            (and in fact I understood, but thought I hadn't)
02:18 Brooke            msg slef your email address to join the volunteers mailing list and he'll get back to you before the end of the week.
02:18 * oleonard        groans
02:18 paul_p            OK, got it
02:18 Space_Librarian   :)
02:18 Brooke            or at least some
02:18 Brooke            d'argent has been le paid :)
02:18 Brooke            it means we have a place to go :)
02:17 paul_p            (Deposit has been placed for the venue)
02:17 Brooke            preferably if you send it out mark it with (I already bugged these people ; date )
02:17 paul_p            (what does it mean -the frenchy don't understand- ?)
02:17 Brooke            look there and either edit or just plain gossip :)
02:17 Brooke            http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Announcements
02:17 Brooke            so I'd say
02:17 Brooke            uhh looks like he wants us to spread the word
02:16 Brooke            hooray :D
02:16 Brooke            Deposit has been placed for the venue.
02:16 Brooke            #info Conference Tue 5 June 2012 to Thu 7th, Hackfest Sat 9th June-Mon 11th June
02:16 Brooke            but
02:16 Brooke            Slef is asleep
02:16 paul_p            RA = Rafael, PT, (seenn in the minutes)
02:16 Brooke            K
02:16 RA                Rafael.antonio at sapo.pt
02:15 paul_p            RA of course you can
02:15 paul_p            well about 3.8 nothing more I think
02:15 RA                Paul can i send you my email? We live in europe so we are very near...
02:15 paul_p            hi RA, I don't remember speaking with you here before
02:15 Brooke            he said he'd test. This is good :)
02:15 paul_p            ah, OK sorry
02:14 paul_p            Brooke RA ???
02:14 Brooke            anything else for 3.8?
02:13 Brooke            RA++
02:13 RA                I will be interested to participate on testing
02:13 thd               I like Brooke's idea of asking on the main list where more people are giving attention.
02:13 paul_p            hi oleonard
02:13 * oleonard        apologizes for his lateness
02:12 thd               paul_p: If you can buy me some sleep I will have more.
02:12 paul_p            thd don't hesitate ;-)
02:12 paul_p            to attract more ppl
02:12 thd               If I would have time in a fully awake state, I would be happy to test and give some feedback.
02:12 paul_p            (ie : what's the workflow, how it works, how to use sandboxes)
02:11 paul_p            I'm really hoping it will help having more tester. I'm even thinking about organizing some training session for french libraries about that.
02:11 paul_p            oleonard tested once, I know wizzyrea gave a try as well (but she didn't send me any feedback)
02:10 Brooke            #help test out the sandboxes
02:10 paul_p            I'd really liked to have feedback before deploying the sandboxes on the 10 servers.
02:09 Brooke            I was going to suggest that for your Patch Discussion as well
02:09 Brooke            perhaps try duplicating that to the main list
02:09 paul_p            I sent a request for testing sandboxes on koha-devel a few days ago, and got no feedback
02:08 paul_p            well, as usual, I made a gave all infos on my RM newsletter.
02:08 paul_p            still trying to finish opening my eyes...
02:08 Brooke            yep
02:07 paul_p            this one is for me probably...
02:07 Brooke            #info if you have stuff that you missed mentioning for 3.4 or 3.6 send it to the list or stick it in the newsletter or on the wiki
02:06 Brooke            prolly the same thing but who knows
02:06 paul_p            chris_n not here, I fear there won't be any
02:05 Brooke            3.4 news anyone?
02:05 paul_p            #info paul P, current Release Manager, BibLibre, France
02:04 Brooke            Anything to announce?
02:03 paul_p            hello #koha
02:03 RA                #info rafael antonio, Portugal
02:02 eythian           #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, Wellington
02:02 Space_Librarian   #info Shelley Gurney, NZICA, Wellington
02:02 jwagner           #info Jane Wagner LibLime/PTFS
02:02 thd               #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
02:01 Brooke            please introduce yourselves using #info
02:01 Brooke            #topic Welcome
02:01 huginn`           Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
02:01 huginn`           Meeting started Wed Feb  8 02:00:14 2012 UTC.  The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
02:01 Brooke            #startmeeting
02:01 eythian           http://koha-community.org/faq/double-ups-search-results-clear-index-start-again/ <-- lculber, the bit after "if this doesn't work" is what I was thinking.
01:58 lculber           Who knows how to reinitialise the whole zebra database from scratch without rebuilding the database?
01:58 * Space_Librarian hugs Brooke :)
01:57 * Brooke          hugs space_librarian
01:57 Space_Librarian   o/ Brooke
01:57 eythian           But you'll have to find someone who knows how, I don't.
01:57 eythian           I think what you should do is to reinitialise the whole zebra database from scratch. Rebuild doesn't do that.
01:56 wahanui           hi, Brooke
01:56 Brooke            howdy
01:54 lculber           I've been at work 13 hours and counting.
01:54 lculber           We could use some magic.
01:53 eythian           I don't think just doing a rebuild is likely to help if it didn't the previous three times. It's not a magical solution, unfortuntately.
01:51 lculber           eythian:  we are redoing the index again with the -r option yet again - this is for the fourth time. Hopefully, this time it will work. The zebrasrv isn't showing anything
01:41 eythian           (I'm not sure how to do that, it might be as simple as deleting it and doing a reindex, but I'm not sure)
01:41 eythian           maybe re-initialise your zebra index from scratch.
01:40 eythian           lculber: it seems to be a not unknown problem, but I can't find a real solution for it.
01:37 lculber           whatever that means
01:37 lculber           Looks like the error is Search biblios ERROR 109 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @not @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=6 test @attr 1=9011 1
01:36 huginn`           libsysguy: The operation succeeded.
01:36 libsysguy         @later tell jcamins hit me up when you get a chance I have a question about your linker patch
01:35 pastebot          "lculber" at pasted "zebrasrv" (58 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/247
01:30 eythian           anyone know why amazon reviews won't be showing up in the OPAC?
01:27 eythian           I's suggest putting the whole output from zebrasrv into paste and seeing if anyone spots something.
01:26 lculber           Okay
01:26 eythian           I think you've reindexed enough for now. If it was going to help, it would have done so.
01:26 lculber           Or just do that and then search?
01:26 lculber           slef:  Should we do that and then reindex?
01:25 slef              now I'm really asleep else I'll fall asleep in tomorrow's meeting
01:24 lculber           We don't really see any errors. It just says returning no log bits for search sets
01:24 slef              replace the ZEBRAOPTIONS="-v none,fatal,warn" with ZEBRAOPTIONS="-v all" in the koha-zebra-ctl.sh or /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon and restart it, then look at the log files, but remember to put them back afterwards
01:20 eythian           does it say anything about why? Although you've pretty much reached the end of my zebra knowledge.
01:19 lculber           Another is search bilbios error 109
01:18 lculber           Okay we got zebrasrv to run in the foreground. One of the things it says is result set not immediately available
01:06 lculber           We can't zebrasrv to run in the foreground. It says failed to listen
01:02 eythian           what happened when you ran zebrasrv in the foreground so you could see what it was doing?
00:56 lculber           We finished the reindexing after restarting zebrasrv and still have no results for searches in either the opac or staff
00:45 lculber           Okay, Right. Makes sense
00:45 eythian           and add '-v all'
00:45 eythian           have a look at the script you're using to launch it, and do the same thing it does, except don't redirect the output elsewhere.
00:44 lculber           sorry, I'm getting tired,  I meant foreground.  How do I run zebrasrv in the foreground?
00:43 lculber           eythian: How do I run it in the foreround to see the queries?
00:42 lculber           too/two
00:42 lculber           It is running slower and taking a lot longer this time. I had worried about it running so fast the last too times.
00:42 eythian           run it manually in the foreground and it'll tell you what queries it's getting from Koha when you search.
00:41 lculber           zebrasrv was running, but we restarted it, right before restarting rebuilding the index for the third time
00:40 eythian           did you check that it is running? permission errors can prevent it from starting sometimes.
00:40 jcamins_away      house open. time for show
00:40 lculber           We  tried starting zebrasrv just before restarting this last rebuild
00:39 eythian           (either way, restart it)
00:39 eythian           and is zebrasrv running?
00:39 lculber           Zebra runs wilth with no errors.  We were using -v and it runs looking normal
00:39 jcamins_away      rrestart  zebrasrv
00:38 eythian           does it stop with an error?
00:38 eythian           lculber: what happens when you run rebuild_zebra? does it do anything?
00:38 lculber           All types of searches
00:37 lculber           Yes, both the staff client and the opac
00:37 jcamins_away      staff client too?
00:36 jcamins_away      stadf
00:31 lculber           our/out
00:30 lculber           We've run the rebuild_zebra twice and are about to run it again our of pure desperation
00:28 lculber           We get "no results found"
00:26 lculber           Using -v made everything look fine. There were no signs of trouble.
00:26 lculber           No results in the searches
00:25 lculber           A search for keywords "test" gets no results. A search for Mississippi which should give thousands gives nothing. and so on
00:25 eythian           what do you mean by "get nothing"?
00:24 lculber           A search of the database shows all of the bibliorecords are there.
00:23 lculber           never any problem before
00:23 lculber           We have a serious problem with our production server 3.4. We tried to reindex using zebra -b -x -r -v (lots of long records which is why we use xml) and we get nothing.