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23:32 jcamins Good night, #koha.
23:02 jcamins Post any comments you have on the bug. :)
23:02 jcamins You're welcome.
23:01 lculber Off for testing. thanks!
23:01 * jcamins is very excited to have this in Koha, too.
23:01 jcamins :)
23:01 lculber jcamins++
23:00 lculber Fantastic. I'm going to get the cataloger who specializes in authority work to work with me. She will be excited and know what to watch for. We are SO excited!!
23:00 jcamins The configuration I suggested will hopefully meet MDAH's needs long-term. :)
22:59 jcamins The test plan will enable you to confidently sign off on the bug for Koha.
22:58 jcamins (for the final test)
22:57 jcamins You might want to also use the FirstMatch LinkerModule.
22:57 jcamins Hm.
22:57 jcamins The best thing to do for testing would probably be to work through the test plan on the bug, then try the combination of settings I just gave you and see if that links everything you feel should be linked.
22:57 lculber We shouldn't have any duplicate auhtorities as far as I know - but that doesn't mean we don't
22:56 jcamins It should.
22:56 lculber This is exciting. Will link_bibs_to_authorities.pl work now? I saw that was one of the tests. Should I hold off on it?
22:54 jcamins Do you have a lot of duplicate authorities?
22:53 jcamins Then run link_bibs_to_authorities.pl -l -v > ~/linker.log
22:52 jcamins (leaving LinkerRelink on and AutoCreateAuthorities off)
22:52 jcamins Turn LinkerKeepStale off, and set LinkerOptions to "broader_headings"
22:51 jcamins Or, maybe even better:
22:51 jcamins See if that gets the links set up the way you want.
22:51 jcamins lculber: there's a complete test plan on the ticket, but you might also just try turning LinkerRelink and LinkerKeepStale on and turning AutoCreateAuthorities off.
22:47 lculber Most of them are older from old system
22:47 lculber Ones added I mean.
22:46 lculber jcamins: We have lots of authorities and the only ones that are linked are the ones since we moved to Koha in May. How would you like us to start?
22:44 lculber Yes! My data is all there and I can start testing. Sorry it's taken me so long. Thanks for your patience and help.
22:43 jcamins Hooray!
22:43 wizzyrea squee!
22:43 lculber Now about says 3.07.00.011
22:41 lculber We got it. It was an apache configuration issue. And then the database did need to be updated. Thanks for the help wizzyrea and jcamins. I was going nuts.
22:38 wizzyrea sounded to me like she had apache sorted :)
22:38 jcamins Probably you need to adjust your Apache config to point to /usr/share/koha_test too.
22:37 jcamins lculber: oh, in that case you need to adjust the export... commands to match /usr/share/koha_test/*
22:35 slef biab
22:31 huginn` slef: unknown tag 952
22:31 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
22:31 slef @marc 952
22:31 wizzyrea *nod*
22:31 slef but it's minor
22:31 slef I've a bamboo keyboard and some uk-made stuff
22:31 lculber the instance is called koha_test
22:30 lculber jcamins: master was downloaded to /home/lculber/kohaclone but it was installed to the regular koha paths like /user/share/koha_test
22:30 slef me either
22:30 slef now
22:30 slef and niw lots of stuff has conflict minerals in
22:30 wizzyrea don't even know where to begin on that problem.
22:29 slef wizzyrea: it's the only bit of the coop codewe completely fail on and always have
22:29 wizzyrea slef: :(((
22:28 schuster ok done for now! I'm working on my batch picture upload command line and borrower batch command line utilities for cron jobs that we have running
22:28 slef wizzyrea: we've always had this prob. Ever sinceI've looked into it
22:28 wizzyrea :P
22:28 wizzyrea i was *trying* (poorly) to be optimistics
22:28 jcamins I mean, koha-dev, koha-dev2... ?
22:28 jcamins lculber: where is your master install located?
22:27 wizzyrea well i'm not sure you actually *can* buy ethically produced electronics.
22:27 slef wizzyrea: getting???
22:27 schuster probably because that was the only place they could put it to be indexed. - slef
22:27 wizzyrea they're like the nike shoes of the current generation
22:27 slef so that'll take a week...
22:27 wizzyrea slef - it's getting difficult to buy ethically produced electronics. :(
22:26 slef schuster: best ask them why they put them in the bibs on the current cat
22:26 schuster I have moments...
22:26 schuster OPAC note is a good spot for the item - Donated by- and still searchable by Koha.
22:26 slef schuster: very good point
22:26 slef so I just regret the amaxonism and foxconn
22:26 schuster That way when the Library "weeds" the donated copy and another copy comes in you don't think that was the donated copy. and your MARC record is still "clean"
22:25 slef although 3g only in the browser
22:25 schuster Why in the MARC and not just the item record itself?
22:25 wizzyrea easy to read :)
22:25 wizzyrea actually that's quite awesome.
22:25 slef free 3g
22:24 slef low power
22:24 wizzyrea nice one
22:24 wizzyrea hehehehe
22:24 slef it runs debian
22:24 slef yeah
22:24 * wizzyrea faints
22:24 wizzyrea ..... kindle?
22:24 slef kindle keyb a bit fiddly
22:24 slef sorry
22:24 slef 1
22:23 jcamins 542 is for copyright.
22:23 jcamins 541.
22:23 slef jcamins++
22:23 slef jcamins: 542 looks good. ta.
22:23 wizzyrea ok so
22:22 wizzyrea nm I found it, lculber.
22:22 jcamins Probably 541.
22:22 jcamins 541.
22:22 jcamins Or...
22:22 jcamins slef: 561.
22:22 slef when cataloging a book that was donated, can the donor's name go in the marc21 anywhere?
22:21 Space_Librarian depends...
22:21 wizzyrea hahaha
22:21 jcamins slef: no, what is it?
22:20 slef bleah anyone want a cataloguing question?
22:20 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot link
22:20 wizzyrea forget link
22:20 wahanui rumour has it link is a bit confusing
22:20 wizzyrea oh, link?
22:20 lculber I set up the multiple instances using the instructions on the wiki
22:20 wizzyrea I suspect that there is some confusion about which koha-conf.xml it's looking at
22:20 * jcamins didn't read all the way back.
22:20 jcamins wizzyrea: ah, hm.
22:20 wizzyrea I don't think that would keep her from seeing things like patrons, for example
22:20 jcamins lculber: or, how did you set up multiple instances?
22:19 jcamins lculber: probably you need to run updatedatabase.
22:19 lculber I gave the other instance a name of koha_test and tried that, - no go, and so tried the ip. Same thing. I don't know what else to try.
22:18 magnus_afk g'night #koha, and happy hunting!
22:18 lculber wizzyrea, yes, afraid there is another instance - 3.6.2 and it's beautiful.
22:18 magnus_afk wizzyrea: yay ;-)
22:18 wizzyrea that one is all yours :)
22:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets
22:17 magnus_afk 64 bugs that need signoff - more awesomeness! i'll do my best to tackle bug 6440 tomorrow, if noone beats me to it
22:17 wizzyrea ah, are you running more than one instance on this test machine?
22:17 lculber In about it says. 3.6. 0. 0
22:17 wizzyrea but, the point is
22:17 wizzyrea well 3.6 and master would look very similar.
22:16 lculber I can click around but it doesn't even look like the right version. It looks like 3.6, when it should be master - that's what I cloned
22:16 wizzyrea sorry to be dense :)
22:16 wizzyrea or that the page is entirely blank
22:16 wizzyrea meaning that you can click around, but there's nothing in there to look at?
22:15 lculber Yes, but it is empty.
22:15 cait 3am... *sigh*
22:15 cait will not be around for the meeting :(
22:15 wizzyrea but you get the web interface?
22:15 lculber Okay, well now when I try to get to it using the ip address I can't see the data. I can see it in the database, but not in the browser
22:14 druthb wizzyrea++ #gots her reasons, m'kay?
22:14 wizzyrea gnite cait
22:14 cait good night all
22:14 wizzyrea sane* even.
22:14 wizzyrea seems sand :)
22:14 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011)
22:14 wizzyrea @quote get 145
22:14 lculber wizzyrea: don't underestimate my stupidity. I cloned master, checked out and set up and set up a test branch to use, and that's where my data is.
22:12 huginn` wizzyrea: 7 found: #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one...", #126: "<rangi> The beauty of Koha is we develop in the...", #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.......", #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!", #155: "libsysguy: I always hate touching somebody...", #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking...", and #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to..."
22:12 wizzyrea @quote search ask
22:12 wizzyrea i'm sure it's not dumb, go ahead
22:12 lculber Really dumb question about web interfaces used for testing - cloned branch.
22:09 druthb 11 or 12 bucks for the bulb, find the books at goodwill (or make a library book sale VERY happy), plus some wiring, a switch, and a bulb base....
22:07 cait wizzyrea++
22:07 cait lol
22:07 druthb lulz.
22:07 wizzyrea spicy!
22:07 * wizzyrea imagines them made out of old romance novels
22:07 wizzyrea it's not too late!
22:06 druthb $140-150 for that? dang. I'm in the wrong bizness.
22:05 wizzyrea it's not - just a use for very old (not rare) books
22:05 jcamins I prefer my reading lamps to shine line down from overhead.
22:05 jcamins That's pretty cool, but I'm not sure how practical it is.
22:04 cait night drojf1
22:04 wizzyrea jcamins: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/boingboing/iBag/~3/Iz5bkeGYpZE/reading-lamps-made-from-drille.html
22:03 drojf1 good night #koha, have a nice meeting
22:03 * drojf1 sneaks off to bed
22:02 wizzyrea keke
22:02 eythian there you go
22:02 wahanui http://marc-must-die.info
22:02 eythian wahanui: marc
22:01 drojf1 :D
22:01 wizzyrea i'm vaguely surprised that there is no reference to marc being evil or needing to die in there.
22:01 wahanui marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html
22:01 slef marc21?
22:00 huginn` slef: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). []
22:00 slef @marc 001
21:51 cait heh
21:51 wizzyrea :)
21:51 wizzyrea hrmph.
21:51 cait you will still need authority records I guess
21:51 cait I meant the frameworks
21:51 drojf1 cait: yeah i thought so. but its an issue for our import too and i have not heard much from my colleague about it. so i guess nothing happened in that field for us
21:51 cait ah
21:51 wizzyrea der.
21:51 wizzyrea using the sample data.
21:51 cait ?
21:51 wizzyrea cait++ for always having the best ideas.
21:51 wizzyrea rather than do what I'm doing :P
21:50 wizzyrea oh - uh, I should do THAT
21:50 cait drojf1: if you set an installation up with the sample files, it should work for playing with jcamins patch
21:50 cait lol
21:49 jcamins eythian: that's how we know you're human. :P
21:48 drojf1 eythian: me too :D
21:48 drojf1 have not looked at that much yet
21:47 eythian jcamins: authorities scare me a little I think :)
21:47 drojf1 and i hope i am not the person to do that
21:47 drojf1 yes but we have to decide what fields we will use
21:47 jcamins drojf1: the authorities framework comes by default.
21:46 drojf1 i dont know if we even have a framework for authorities now. or specs for one. i see a whole new world of fun in front of me
21:44 cait no worries
21:44 cait I have set up the database now and cataloging behaves like it should so far :)
21:44 cait jcamins: it's only getting late and I had a long day - will try to continue tomorrow
21:44 * cait thinks it was the blue cat
21:44 drojf1 lol
21:43 cait jcamins: yes, but my yarn got played with...
21:43 jcamins I guess not?
21:43 cait wizzyrea: apparently noone knew
21:43 jcamins cait: I thought I made it very clear.
21:43 jcamins cait: :(
21:43 * wizzyrea feels a bit dumb now
21:43 wizzyrea I did not know that members/update-child.pl even existed.
21:43 cait jcamins: yeah... so i am LOST!
21:43 jcamins eythian! You should join the 7284-signing off party!
21:43 wizzyrea holy snaps.
21:43 cait hi eythian
21:43 eythian hi everyone
21:43 jcamins cait: but yarn gets played with!
21:42 cait bread crumbs get eaten by the cats
21:42 cait yarn :)
21:42 drojf1 i hope you used bread crumbs
21:42 cait sorry, I am stuck in the labyrinth myself
21:42 jcamins I mean, that QA-ers wouldn't like it.
21:42 jcamins cait: I thought about eliminating it, but thought that might be a problem for QA.
21:42 cait lol
21:41 drojf1 cait: maybe you can write me a walktrhough for the walkthrough and i follow in your footsteps ;)
21:41 drojf1 i will try tomorrow. i have the feeling that i wont be too koha-productive though since i will actually go to the library. there are always people to bother me with non-koha things ;)
21:40 jcamins It sets whether you can edit authority-controlled fields at all.
21:40 cait but now I am not even sure what BiblioAddsAuthorities does
21:40 cait ok, I tested the first part
21:39 cait drojf1: I go one sentence .at a time
21:39 * wizzyrea loves surprises
21:38 * jcamins will update the bug to reflect it.
21:38 * drojf1 is too tired to even read the whole description now :(
21:36 jcamins I realized that last night.
21:36 jcamins And actually there's one undocumented feature.
21:36 jcamins Yeah.
21:36 cait wow 4 new system preferences?
21:35 jcamins I will. :)
21:34 cait say hi to chester :)
21:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
21:34 jcamins cait: yup.
21:34 wahanui well, bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen.
21:34 jcamins Bug 7284.
21:34 drojf1 which bug is it?
21:33 drojf1 that is, i will try to try :)
21:33 drojf1 not tonight, had a long day of filemaker boredom. but i will try tomorrow
21:33 cait is tomorrow blue cat wednesday?
21:33 cait oh
21:33 * wizzyrea is trying to get authorities out of her production system
21:33 jcamins See how it works for you.
21:33 wizzyrea hehe
21:33 cait he is so predictable :P
21:33 jcamins You should test it too.
21:33 drojf1 :)
21:33 cait hehe
21:32 wizzyrea there it is.
21:32 jcamins drojf1: cait is testing the magic for linking. :)
21:32 * wizzyrea waits for it
21:32 drojf1 we never used authorities since we had no real library system. if we will start to use them, will we have to link them by hand after importing? or is there some magic to do that for us?
21:31 cait sorry
21:31 cait got only confused because it was only a few entries where it worked
21:31 cait yeah
21:31 jcamins That'll do it.
21:31 jcamins cait: right.
21:30 huginn` drojf1: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -5.1ï¿½C (10:12 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -11.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -10.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.81 in 1043.2 hPa (Rising).
21:30 drojf1 @wunder berlin, germany
21:30 cait hi mtj :)
21:30 cait and it's only working for some because the X at the end got cut off in auth_headers
21:30 * mtj waves to all
21:30 mtj morning #koha
21:30 cait and the bibliographic data I used had $9 fields...
21:29 cait the authimport used our 001 numbers
21:29 cait I tihnk I know what happened
21:29 jcamins If you don't have anything in $9, that shouldn't happen.
21:29 huginn` Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0ï¿½C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
21:29 Space_Librarian @wunder wellington, nz
21:29 jcamins cait: that's a good question.
21:28 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -10.1ï¿½C (10:24 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -13.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -14.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
21:28 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:28 cait :)
21:28 cait hi drojf1 )
21:28 drojf1 ev'nin' #koha
21:28 cait jcamins: magic?
21:28 cait it sure look slike it
21:28 drojf1 magic? :)
21:27 cait how can that happen?
21:27 cait my authority search shows 6 linked records for one of my authorities...
21:26 cait without running any linker
21:26 cait another question
21:26 cait ok
21:26 cait I should not have asked
21:24 jcamins Headming match is 1xx$*, 4xx$*, and 5xx$*.
21:24 jcamins Main entry is 1xx$*
21:24 jcamins It's supposed to be only 1xx$a, I think.
21:24 jcamins Main entry ($a only) is mostly UNIMARC.
21:22 cait what is the diffrence between Main entry ($a only) , Main entry and Heading match?
21:22 cait hm
21:21 wizzyrea e
21:21 wizzyrea aaand by
21:19 * oleonard waves to atz in passing
21:19 wizzyrea atz! hi!
21:19 wizzyrea hehe bye oleonard
21:19 oleonard See ya #koha. Leave me just, you know, one or two bugs to sign off on tomorrow.
21:15 cait reindexing now
21:15 sekjal okay, off I go. later, #koha!
21:13 jcamins Other than the .cfg files, obviously.
21:13 * jcamins uses softlinks for all of the Zebra configuration files.
21:12 cait I should have read the instructions :)
21:12 jcamins cait: sorry. :(
21:11 cait *sigh*
21:11 cait for indexing... so I have to reindex
21:11 wizzyrea gotcha
21:11 cait from kohaclone/etc to your koha-dev/etc
21:11 oleonard Those Kiribati devs are good.
21:11 cait copy over
21:11 cait I just found that
21:11 cait ah
21:10 wizzyrea ok, sorry to be dense jcamins -- when you say "make sure you install the following files" -- install from where?
21:10 wizzyrea :D
21:10 cait and gbsd has not even started in europe
21:10 cait that's amazing!
21:10 cait 64!
21:07 cait thx :)
21:07 wizzyrea :)
21:07 cait ok done
21:07 wizzyrea you're too fast
21:07 wizzyrea perl installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/ lol dangit
21:07 jcamins cait: perl installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_matching_pt1
21:07 oleonard http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_status.pl
21:07 cait jcamins: how do I run the update?
21:07 cait although indexing is fast enough, nice laptop :)
21:06 wizzyrea yes, exactly
21:06 cait that's good :)
21:06 jcamins cait: yeah, but fortunately you don't need to run it prior to indexing.
21:06 * collum is having flashbacks of dialog searching
21:06 sekjal http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/2/23/Xkcd-im-going-to-try-science.jpg
21:05 Space_Librarian fun times
21:05 cait there is an atomiacupdate
21:05 cait oh
21:05 wizzyrea hehehehe
21:05 Space_Librarian And marked me "property of the science library"
21:05 wizzyrea hey, I love science librarians.
21:05 wizzyrea O.o
21:05 Space_Librarian They actually tattle-taped me when I left... *sigh*
21:04 cait :)
21:04 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE!
21:04 cait wizzyrea?
21:04 Space_Librarian I know.
21:03 oleonard Oh that wasn't mocking, I'm sure.
21:03 Space_Librarian Don't mock 'em. I was one for years. :p
21:01 wizzyrea they're librarians... FOR SCIENCE.
21:01 sekjal it's just about time for me to take off to meet my colleagues over at the science library
21:01 wizzyrea :) all good, just getting it on the radar. :)
21:00 sekjal sorry
21:00 sekjal 7001 is way too big for me to QA today
20:59 sekjal agreed
20:59 wizzyrea still - neat
20:59 sekjal just does what jcamins described, only automated and into one output file
20:58 jcamins Nor did I.
20:58 jcamins Cool!
20:58 wizzyrea i had no idea.
20:58 wizzyrea wowie
20:58 sekjal misc/exportauth.pl
20:57 wizzyrea srsly?
20:57 * wizzyrea peers at sekjal
20:57 jcamins sekjal: there is?
20:57 wizzyrea wut wut
20:56 sekjal wizzyrea: there is also a command line utility
20:56 wizzyrea okies
20:56 wizzyrea ohsnaps
20:56 jcamins wizzyrea: I just use "SELECT marc FROM auth_header;"
20:56 wizzyrea or is that a "can of worms"
20:56 wizzyrea any way to *export* authorities from koha?
20:55 jcamins cait++
20:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
20:55 * cait joins the ranks for testing bug 7284
20:54 cait ok, my data is imported :P
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , User Configurable Slips
20:54 * wizzyrea pokes qa about bug 7001
20:54 jcamins Cool!
20:52 oleonard https://twitter.com/KohaGBSD
20:52 jcamins What GBSD tweets?
20:51 oleonard Whatever witchery sends the GBSD tweets
20:51 jcamins Tweet bot?
20:49 wizzyrea it could go all the time and i wouldn't complain.
20:49 wizzyrea I really like the tweet bot
20:49 oleonard magnus_afk++ # for fixing tweet bot
20:38 jcamins Yeah, that'll take a bit.
20:38 lculber Well, I'm off to do indexing then. 100000+ biblios and about 24500 authorities I think, so it will be a while. I'll check back.
20:37 jcamins ;)
20:37 jcamins *?
20:37 jcamins How else could the linker find them.
20:37 schuster OK thanks
20:37 jcamins schuster: well, the authorities have to be indexed.
20:37 jcamins schuster: yes.
20:37 schuster jcamins - do you have to have it indexed before you do the linking?
20:36 jcamins :)
20:36 jcamins lculber: not really, no.
20:36 lculber opps that didn't make sense, did it? Duh!
20:35 lculber jcamins: Since I already have biblios and authorities in the database, do I need to run zebra indexing before or after running misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r
20:34 lculber jcamins: the setting up patch instructions went just as they should this time so, I think the patch did NOT install correctly the first time.
20:33 cait heh
20:32 jcamins lculber: this is a particularly large patch- once you've gotten through the signing off procedure on this one, you should be pretty much comfortable to sign off on anything you're interested in. :)
20:31 lculber jcamins: I just did a quick reinstall - took 2 minutes - just to see. I'm working through your test instructions again now
20:22 jcamins lculber: you could also just work through the test plan, actually, since that will test almost every possibility.
20:22 jcamins lculber: the link_bibs_to_authorities.pl task is now much faster, so you could even try lots of different combinations to see what works best for you.
20:21 schuster thanks sekjal
20:21 sekjal schuster: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=Needs%20Signoff&sharer_id=1&list_id=21309
20:20 jcamins schuster: yup.
20:20 schuster jcamins so you just mix together and bake? just a regular cookie?
20:20 jcamins Is bugs.k-c.org down?
20:20 jcamins Uh-oh.
20:20 jcamins There is indeed.
20:20 jcamins schuster: I'm glad you asked!
20:20 jcamins lculber: you can try setting it just to the combination of settings that you think is most appropriate for *your* data, though, to start with.
20:20 schuster So is there an easy way to see bugs needing sign off?
20:19 jcamins So it'll be set to LinkerRelink = on, and the others off.
20:18 jcamins lculber: it defaults to exactly the way it behaves now.
20:17 lculber jcamins: I have data in the database. Would that have everything off?
20:17 oleonard Yes, of course the next step will be to find and fix those problems.
20:16 cait display in opac/moderating comments/recent comments
20:16 cait oleonard: your logic made sense to me - only not sure if a null borrowernumber will make problems somewhere?
20:13 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7493 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments"
20:13 oleonard I'm still looking for comments on Bug 7493 if any database-savvy folks care to look
20:13 jcamins They're favorites, as you could probably tell from the way I could give you the recipe off the top of my head.
20:11 jcamins Really easy recipe: 1 c. butter, 1-1/4 c. sugar, 1 tsp. vanilla extract, 1 tsp. lemon extract, 1 egg, 2 c. flour, 1 c. chocolate chips. Bake 7-9 min at 350F
20:09 jcamins Right, those are nothing like what I made.
20:09 jcamins I've never had what most people call "sandtarts."
20:09 jcamins Very tasty.
20:09 jcamins They're chocolate chip cookies with a bit of lemon extract and no baking soda or baking powder.
20:08 schuster Just looked it up they remind me of the italian wedding cookie... hummmm.
20:07 schuster Never heard of one what is that?
20:06 schuster about time druthb_away joined Koha LOL....
20:06 jcamins schuster: my family calls them "sandtarts," but they're not the same as everyone else's "sandtarts."
20:06 schuster jcamins what type of cookies did you make?
19:59 jcamins (previously)
19:59 jcamins Yes, that means it installed properly.
19:59 jcamins Ah.
19:58 lculber sorry. All lines say Duplicate entry for key 'PRIMARY
19:58 lculber jcamins: all links same Duplicate entry - so were already there from first time run?
19:57 magnus_afk o/
19:57 * jcamins wonders how long it will be before he encounters a collector who actually collects that sort of book.
19:55 * oleonard tests an acquisitions bug by ordering "Netscape 2 simplified"
19:54 magnus_afk i'll take your word for it
19:54 magnus_afk jcamins: yay!
19:53 jcamins magnus_afk: the cookies I made yesterday came out very tasty.
19:52 jcamins Now you just try the linker.
19:52 * magnus_afk perks up at the mention of food
19:52 jcamins Nope.
19:51 lculber So I need to reinstall yet again, right?
19:51 jcamins Well, that and discussing food.
19:51 jcamins We all do that sort of thing. That's what #koha is for.
19:51 lculber my bad.
19:50 lculber I did know better. I just messed up. They are actually in koha_test
19:49 jcamins You may want to add those two export... lines to your ~/.profile file, so that they're always set.
19:49 jcamins Then, when it does (I'm being optimistic), you can sign off. :)
19:49 jcamins Now you just play with the options and see if it does what you want! :)
19:49 jcamins Woohoo!
19:48 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
19:48 lculber Success! Upgrade done (Configured bug 7284, improved authority matching)
19:48 jcamins That's okay.
19:47 schuster Sorry I've been so behind in helping test... I finally found my usb drives to help me move files around here at the office! For me to do testing and interact I have to do it at home right now so it is a pain. Needs to look into what it would take to open stuff here at the office.
19:45 jcamins schuster: At this point I'm having other people test so that we can get the improved linking into Koha ASAP, so there's probably no point in sending it.
19:45 jcamins Then rerun.
19:45 jcamins export PERL5LIB=/home/lculber/kohaclone
19:45 jcamins export KOHA_CONF=/home/lculber/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml
19:45 jcamins As follows:
19:45 jcamins lculber: Ah! You need to set KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB.
19:44 pastebot "lculber" at 205.144.231.36 pasted "perl output" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/246
19:44 schuster jcamins - did you want my Auth and biblio? I extracted the screens as you instructed so could provide you my full data if you want them still.
19:43 schuster Get it all square - I'm working on getting a "testing" machine setup - I'm stripping all my data and loading only 50,000 bibs so it will be manageable.
19:43 jcamins Run: perl ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_linking_pt1
19:42 jcamins Yeah, typo on my part it looks like.
19:42 pastebot "lculber" at 205.144.231.36 pasted "ls ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/245
19:41 jcamins http://paste.koha-community.org/
19:40 lculber opps - senior moment. forgot where the paste thing is. The output of ls ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate is 10 lines long
19:36 wizzyrea this is me hoping that you didn't do that on your production system ^.^
19:36 jcamins lculber: hm. What's the output of ls ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate
19:35 jcamins wizzyrea: that's my question!
19:35 lculber spoke too soon. Was setting my system prefernces and some seem to be missing, so I think something got garbled. Can you post how to fix?
19:35 wizzyrea why not call it the "rectangular selection tool"
19:35 jcamins Who looks at the rectangular selection tool in Photoshop and says "ah-ha! We should call that the "marquee tool"?
19:32 lculber Okay. Here I go.
19:32 jcamins If you're seeing the sysprefs, though, you have it all set up properly. :)
19:32 jcamins That makes sense.
19:32 lculber I'm going to try forging ahead. If it doesn't work, I'll try reinstalling the patch. How's that sound?
19:31 wizzyrea http://troll.me/test-all-the-things/
19:31 jcamins Well, that and who doesn't like running the authority linker over and over and over?
19:30 wizzyrea is why we TEST ALL THE THINGS
19:30 wizzyrea hehe - mistakes, we all make them.
19:30 lculber you all need to remember that I'm not only a rank beginner but a total klutz, so if there is an error it is probably mine.
19:30 wizzyrea nice test plan (seriously)
19:29 jcamins lculber: in that case, yeah, you can just continue with your tests. :)
19:29 wizzyrea ^.^
19:29 wizzyrea wait... no, it's fine.
19:28 wizzyrea my mental image of your perfection has been shattered!
19:28 schuster schuster gasps!
19:28 * wizzyrea gasps
19:28 jcamins wizzyrea: there's apparently an error in my test plan.
19:28 jcamins If it's not very short, it's the right patch, and installed correctly. :)
19:28 jcamins What we wanted to check was that there was a long message.
19:27 lculber Not sure it is all there though
19:27 jcamins Okay, good.
19:27 lculber yes, it is really long
19:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
19:26 jcamins If you run git log, does it show a *really long* commit message about bug 7284?
19:26 jcamins If they show up in the system preferences, the problem is probably a typo in my instructions.
19:25 jcamins Hm.
19:25 jcamins Oh, they are?
19:25 lculber All your nice settings are in the system preferences. I was so excited. :(
19:23 jcamins Actually, I'll use paste.koha-community.org (one moment while I paste them)
19:23 jcamins The following commands should take care of the installation:
19:22 jcamins The other files that are called for are required for all Koha installations, it just so happens that they have to be updated by the patch.
19:22 wizzyrea ^^
19:22 jcamins If that file isn't there, the patch probably hasn't been applied correctly.
19:22 lculber Can I still proceed. Everything else looks right.
19:21 lculber jcamins: In patch testing plan setting up patch, the first part seems to be already there now. Found all files except file supposed to run installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_linking_pt1
19:19 jcamins *lunch
19:18 jcamins Having a late lunhc. :)
19:18 jcamins lculber: I'm here now.
19:16 lculber I'm testing 7824 and have a question, but will check back. I'm a rank beginner but trying.
19:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
19:15 wahanui bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen.
19:15 sekjal bug 7284
19:15 oleonard Check that bug number lculber
19:14 lculber Is anyone else testing 7824?
19:14 slef bbl
19:13 huginn` slef: jcamins was last seen in #koha 7 minutes and 39 seconds ago: <jcamins> Culiforge: I haven't heard anything good about installing Koha on Fedora/RH.
19:13 slef @seen jcamins
19:13 oleonard jcamins is always here, especially when he says he isn't.
19:13 slef after using apt and dpkg, yum and rpm feel like doing your own dentistry
19:13 lculber jcamins here?
19:13 slef it is possible but no, not fun
19:11 sekjal Culiforge: you're welcome. best of luck
19:10 Culiforge sekjal: thanks for the heads up
19:08 sekjal Culiforge: I can tell you from experience that RedHat installations are an absolute nightmare (if not flat out impossible). Not sure how much of that applies to Fedora
19:07 Culiforge jcamins: I'll have to talk to the boss-man/fedora-man about it.. he seems to think it's easy-peasy
19:06 jcamins Culiforge: I haven't heard anything good about installing Koha on Fedora/RH.
19:05 Culiforge jcamins: I asked around in the Fedora forums this morning for some advice and got soundly thrashed for it.. Makes me wanna dump Fedora right now if that's any indication of what their community is like
19:01 jcamins Doesn't kvm let you run Fedora but also run Debian?
19:00 Culiforge jcamins: wish I could.. he's hooked on fedora because of rpmtools
19:00 jcamins Barring that, run Debian using kvm.
19:00 jcamins Culiforge: persuade him to use Debian.
18:59 Culiforge so then my next question, the boss wants koha on fedora 14.. wiki has instructions for fed 7. what's best method in your opinions for installing..
18:58 cait wizzyrea: do you remember which menus were broken after applying the translation patch?
18:58 jcamins However, to the best of my knowledge, the last RPM was for 3.0.
18:57 jcamins Culiforge: maybe I'm wrong, then.
18:57 Culiforge figured I'd check here with the knowledgeable folks
18:57 Culiforge jcamins: thx, saw someone on fed boards say there was a YUM repo for it for CentOS in which they also said that cent and fedora enterprise were the "same'
18:55 jcamins Culiforge: there is not.
18:52 Culiforge Does anyone know if there is a koha rpm for fedora?
18:45 slef [off] learn with me: liblime no es el oficial koha. Es bifurcaciÃ³n
18:41 slef 2011-07-15 last update
18:41 slef http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=kobli;a=summary
18:39 slef hey I don't either, why should that excuse you? ;)
18:39 slef arbÃ³l even
18:39 slef aborl
18:38 * jcamins doesn't know Spanish, sorry.
18:38 slef Spanish for tree, anyone?
18:37 slef downloading
18:36 slef obscuraware
18:36 slef all zipfiles and pdfs
18:36 slef http://kobli.bage.es/descargas-kobli/ has some downloads
18:33 jcamins I could be mistaken.
18:33 slef ok, I'll push back on linkedin
18:29 jcamins It's a fork that they keep on promising to release, I think.
18:29 slef anyone know about koha-kobli? I forget if it's public or a fork or what
18:28 slef koha-kobli?
18:27 cait should go and make dinner
18:26 sekjal cait++
18:25 * cait was only looking at it because working on fines and notices today ... :(
18:21 cait ok
18:20 sekjal yes
18:20 cait should I note on the bug?
18:19 sekjal cait: I think so, but I don't know for sure
18:19 cait those will show up in the logs, right?
18:18 cait I see some warns there
18:18 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=7487
18:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7420 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Add max fines to circulation matrix
18:18 cait bug 7420
18:18 cait sekjal: I am spotting some things on 7420 I am wondering about
18:18 cait hmm
18:12 sekjal oleonard: or it could run with >= instead of >
18:11 oleonard Is there any reason why the new script shouldn't set the expiration date to yesterday?
18:10 sekjal but it should dovetail better with the behaviour of cancel_expired_holds.pl
18:10 sekjal the idea was that this would be a nightly cronjob
18:09 wahanui interesting is probably good
18:09 sekjal oleonard: interesting...
18:08 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -10.0ï¿½C (7:00 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -14.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Rising).
18:08 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:08 oleonard I realize it won't normally be run in quick succession like that
18:08 cait thx jcamins
18:08 jcamins wb cait.
18:08 cait it's brrr outside
18:08 cait thx wizzyrea
18:08 oleonard So if you run expire_holds_over.pl, then cancel_expired_holds.pl, then expire_holds_over.pl again, you get double-fines
18:07 wizzyrea wb cait
18:07 oleonard But the expiration date is set to today, and the cancel_expired_holds script only cancels holds with expiration date less than today.
18:07 cait hi #koha
18:06 oleonard I've run the new script successfully: expiration dates updated, fines set.
18:06 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Expire holds that have been waiting too long
18:06 oleonard I have a question about Bug 7408
18:06 sekjal oleonard: yes
18:05 oleonard sekjal still around?
17:52 paul_p OK, ttl
17:52 slef needs a better name
17:41 jcamins That's good.
17:41 jcamins Okay.
17:41 jcamins Oh.
17:40 paul_p not HTML4 standard ;-)
17:40 paul_p hehe... HTML4 is the 4th HTML coding guideline !
17:40 jcamins paul_p: why are we using HTML4?
17:31 slef what I'd overlooked was the unix: prefix on the socket filename
17:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7458 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , New call number allocation plugin
17:29 bag bug 7458
17:25 slef ok, getting that from zebrasrv. What have I overlooked?
17:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6273 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , SIP2 Fee Paid and Fee Paid Response support
17:25 sekjal if anyone can test bug 6273 (requires SIP), I'd greatly appreciate it
17:25 slef Connecting...error = System (lower-layer) error: Connection timed out
17:23 sekjal oleonard: same here
17:22 * oleonard feels like all he's doing today is shooting things down
17:19 kf bye all :)
17:19 kf awesome I mean :)
17:19 kf yes it is!
17:13 wizzyrea :)
17:13 magnus_afk hey, we're down to 71 needs signoff - that's awesome!
17:12 wizzyrea but will need to be documented.
17:11 wizzyrea it's ok, not part of this bug
17:11 wizzyrea no, the thing where all branches must have a rule for an itemtype hold limit to be honored is still there.
17:07 sekjal lunch!
17:04 * jcamins will not test that one until you've tracked down the problem.
17:03 oleonard ...which is good news for everyone else.
17:03 oleonard The last database update I tested was probably my own
17:02 oleonard Can't have been the patch I just tested--no database update.
17:02 jcamins oleonard: what patch did you just test?
17:01 jcamins oleonard: uh-oh.
17:01 oleonard Where the heck did all my lists go?
16:51 jcamins Very cool.
16:51 wizzyrea the save button is always visible
16:51 wizzyrea scroll-wise
16:51 wizzyrea so no matter where you are
16:51 wizzyrea it sticks to the top of the screen when you scroll down
16:51 * jcamins hasn't noticed that yet.
16:51 jcamins Floating save button in cataloging?
16:49 reiveune bye
16:47 wizzyrea nice when you have zillions of items.
16:47 wizzyrea I also still like the add item screen
16:46 oleonard Thanks. I still forget it's there and scroll to the top to look for it.
16:45 wizzyrea so handy.
16:45 wizzyrea in cataloging.
16:45 wizzyrea oleonard i love that floating save button
16:43 wizzyrea I'll try :)
16:43 sekjal if you can verify that, it would bring us all peace of mind
16:43 wizzyrea ty
16:43 wizzyrea cool
16:43 wizzyrea k
16:43 sekjal just piggybacked on what already existed
16:43 wizzyrea k
16:43 sekjal my patch didn't change any mechanics for the hold policies in general
16:42 sekjal I remember testing with default library rules only, and having it work
16:42 wizzyrea with this patch or in general
16:42 sekjal wizzyrea: I believe that problem is resolved
16:42 wizzyrea that was for sekjal :)
16:41 kf no idea
16:41 wizzyrea I'm going to assume that problem still exists.
16:41 wizzyrea do you know if the new floating rules fall victim to the same issue that the other hold policy rules do, in that they don't fall back correctly (i.e. every library must have them defined for an item type for it to work across all branches/patron categories/item types)
16:40 kf covered in tickets here...
16:40 kf sorry
16:40 kf wizzyrea: yep, we are saying the same :)
16:40 wizzyrea sekjal: one more question
16:39 wizzyrea :D
16:39 * jcamins runs around in circles shouting "Authority matching! Authority matching!"
16:39 wizzyrea woot!
16:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
16:38 jcamins wizzyrea: speaking of test plans, there's one for bug 7284!
16:35 wizzyrea :)
16:35 wizzyrea reading++
16:35 sekjal :)
16:34 wizzyrea nm :)
16:34 wizzyrea I bet I know
16:34 wizzyrea oh... wait
16:34 wizzyrea i'm having trouble getting the hold policy rules to save now
16:34 wizzyrea sekjal - question about 7144
16:21 wizzyrea we may be saying the same thing
16:20 wizzyrea does that make sense?
16:20 wizzyrea but the help could change around it
16:20 wizzyrea so your changes are always preserved
16:19 wizzyrea and display it along with the stuff that gets updated
16:19 wizzyrea keep the extra stuff in the db
16:19 wizzyrea writing to the files
16:19 wizzyrea or, instead of
16:19 kf so you can make additions...
16:19 kf might be easier
16:19 kf on top
16:19 kf and add a text block you can edit to them
16:19 kf as is
16:18 kf perhaps we could just keep the text files
16:18 kf but
16:18 kf ah
16:18 kf installing a language should use the po file to generate sql to write that into your database
16:18 wizzyrea keep in mind, I've got no idea how it actually works.
16:18 kf you will still want all versions
16:18 kf I am not sure this wil work
16:18 kf hm
16:18 wizzyrea when you're done
16:18 wizzyrea then you "install" the new help
16:17 wizzyrea it dumps out the help from the db into a .po file
16:17 wizzyrea when you install a language
16:17 wizzyrea if in the translation script
16:17 wizzyrea what about
16:16 kf with separate files
16:15 kf you could save it for last, starting with the interface
16:15 kf I think magnuse was fighting translating the help :)
16:15 wizzyrea well how could we do it so that it would be easier to translate, but still ... ^^ this
16:15 kf a way to parse them into a separate po file.. that would be kinda cool
16:15 wizzyrea so
16:15 wizzyrea ah yea ok
16:15 kf and it's a lot of text
16:15 kf translating in sql is very hard
16:14 wizzyrea the sample strings would be translatable?
16:14 wizzyrea well
16:14 kf *sigh*
16:14 kf the problem witht hat is... that database stuff is not translatable
16:14 wizzyrea great minds :)
16:14 kf I was exactly thinking about news :)
16:14 kf yep
16:14 wizzyrea we already have that kind of functionality with "news"
16:14 kf and you could add custom sections.. that would be save when updating
16:14 kf saved in the database
16:14 kf and it would be like a small cms
16:14 wizzyrea but I think the help should probably be kept in the db?
16:14 kf perhaps the way to do it is wrong
16:13 wizzyrea yea, the idea *is* good
16:13 kf the idea is good...
16:13 oleonard Sounds like a pretty sucky feature :P
16:13 wizzyrea they probably need to move to somewhere like /etc/
16:13 wizzyrea which means that if we want to keep them
16:13 kf so you have to change the permissions... and save them from being overwritten
16:13 wizzyrea same
16:13 kf in my experience
16:13 kf and the directories have the wrong permissions when installing
16:13 wizzyrea then no, probably not.
16:12 kf it gets overwritten with update
16:12 wizzyrea are people actually using the ability to edit that help?
16:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error
16:11 oleonard I wonder, in light of Bug 7339, whether we need to re-think how we handle contextual help
16:10 * wizzyrea also runs in circles shouting "Test plans! Test plans!"
16:10 * wizzyrea runs in circles "I'M HELPING!"
16:10 wizzyrea but I may still try to find the problem ^.^
16:09 oleonard Oh I see you did :)
16:09 oleonard If you want to wizzyrea. You can also fail it if you need to.
16:09 wizzyrea I hope he doesn't beat me.
16:09 wizzyrea beat me to it, that is
16:09 wizzyrea er
16:09 wizzyrea ^^ let me see if I can find where it's missing. oleonard may beat me though.
16:08 paul_p it's usually a missing [% END %] in the template
16:08 paul_p iirc I had the same problem, some time ago, was it with this bug ? not sure.
16:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5280 normal, P4, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Fix password field in members.pl so that the password is masked as it is entered
16:07 wahanui bug 5280 is, like, cool, finishing testing it for sign off
16:07 paul_p bug 5280
16:04 magnus_afk *might not
16:04 magnus_afk but not have time to fix it in the near future
16:04 * magnus_afk fears oleonard is right
16:03 wizzyrea ooo probably a good pt
16:03 * oleonard thinks the GBSD tweet bot might not be working correctly with new Bugzilla statuses?
16:00 * wizzyrea turns the frown upside down
16:00 wizzyrea :)
16:00 * kf can't stand the sad smileys
16:00 * kf offers cookies
16:00 wizzyrea :( indeed
16:00 oleonard :(
15:59 wizzyrea oleonard - i'm looking at 5280 - when I try to add a patron I get Template process failed: file error - parse error - /home/liz/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/memberentrygen.tt line 1480: unexpected end of input at /home/liz/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 126.
15:55 jcamins_away :)
15:55 kf is quite impressive
15:55 kf signing off on a bus
15:55 jcamins_away I'll be back from uptown.
15:55 kf jcamins++ anyway
15:55 jcamins_away Bus.
15:54 kf oh, on a train?
15:54 jcamins_away Hm. Heading into a tunnel.
15:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items
15:54 jcamins_away And you wanted me to sign off on bug 6199...
15:52 jcamins_away I thought it was a different bug.
15:52 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6496 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client
15:52 jcamins_away kf: signed off on bug 6496.
15:47 gaetan_B hmmm thanks jcamins_away ;)
15:46 jcamins_away Look for "publicserver".
15:46 gaetan_B *whether
15:46 jcamins_away It's configurable in koha_conf.xml.
15:46 gaetan_B i mean for port, login/password, database... and wether this is something that can be edited ?
15:45 gaetan_B anyone knows what the default settings are when configuring Koha as a z39.50 target?
15:43 wizzyrea hm, like stack overflow for catalogers?
15:40 oleonard 90 seconds with IE9 and I want to punch it in the face.
15:38 magnus_afk oy! http://www.libcatcode.org/
15:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC
15:37 jcamins_away Hm. bug 6874 fails qa. :(
15:35 sekjal oleonard: I'm envisioning Inventory and Rebarcoding as two of the major mobile functions
15:34 wahanui I know. That's why I said it.
15:34 oleonard sekjal: Very true.
15:34 sekjal oleonard: I want access to the mobile device's camera for barcode scanning, and that's really tough to do reliably through the browser
15:33 paul_p OK, problem fixed it seems
15:33 oleonard paul_p++
15:31 oleonard Thanks
15:31 paul_p oleonard I just retried, you should get another mail, we will see if it work better
15:30 * paul_p fixes that
15:30 paul_p so, last night a commit has updated the code, but not the database
15:29 paul_p at all
15:29 paul_p OK, that's it. If you choose "no change", then the DB is not updated !
15:29 oleonard "no change"
15:29 paul_p MARC21 ? or "no change" ?
15:29 paul_p oleonard which database did you choose ?
15:28 paul_p s/fix/deal with/
15:28 paul_p I was sure to have written the code to fix this...
15:28 paul_p so the sample database has a lower number as Koha.
15:28 * paul_p has forgotten to automatically run updatedatabase ! how could I forget that !!!
15:26 oleonard Yes, I was just about to ask
15:26 * paul_p try to understand why test5 reaches a webinstaller page... (oleonard, it was probably you)
15:26 paul_p meeting ended
15:25 oleonard Why?
15:23 sekjal though I'd probably need to compile it for various platforms, instead of run it as a web app
15:23 sekjal really want to do a mobile staff client for Koha
15:22 sekjal oleonard: it is
15:20 kf :)
15:19 oleonard Sounds like fun
15:19 sekjal working on web accessibility and mobile design a lot lately
15:19 sekjal kf: pretty good
15:09 kf how is the new job?
15:09 kf hi sekjal :)
15:08 wizzyrea heya sekjal :)
15:07 sekjal hi, wizzyrea. hi, kf
15:05 kf hi wizzyrea :)
15:04 * wizzyrea waves
15:04 sekjal I think 2^128 possible values is probably enough for any library
15:03 sekjal SHA1 would give us a larger space, but not any solution to the fundamental problem
15:03 sekjal agreed that any hash will have a chance of conflict; it's a limited (though vast) space, and it's very hashy nature means that you cannot uniquely determine a value based on it's hash alone
14:55 jcamins It's a pretty cool feature, now that it's DB-based.
14:55 jcamins paul_p_mtg: great.
14:55 jcamins Back in a few.
14:55 jcamins Okay, better run to catch the bus.
14:55 paul_p_mtg jcamins I don't think it's a serious enough issue. So I agree with you
14:54 jcamins sekjal: I'll test it and sign off on the functionality.
14:54 kf hm
14:54 jcamins And I don't want to fail things because I envision something different.
14:53 jcamins kf: most of those I wasn't testing because I didn't really know how to respond.
14:52 sekjal jcamins: will need to read up on it
14:52 paul_p_mtg kf yep, still meeting (for 10-20 more minuts)
14:51 kf only not for the bugs I suggested :P
14:51 jcamins :)
14:51 kf jcamins++ busy!
14:51 * jcamins doesn't really understand what the issue with md5 is. All hashes have a theoretical risk of collision.
14:51 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC
14:51 jcamins sekjal: is the use of MD5 for bug 6874 a sufficiently serious issue that I shouldn't bother testing and should just mark it failed qa?
14:46 wahanui kf: I forgot meeting
14:46 kf forget meeting
14:45 wahanui meeting is, like, in ~30 minutes
14:45 kf paul_p_mtg: still meeting?
14:43 paul_p_mtg oleonard thx, and report the result here or by mail !
14:43 oleonard Okay paul_p_mtg, I will try it
14:39 paul_p_mtg oleonard if you want to setup an accessible demo => try test5 sandbox !!!
14:35 oleonard Although it looks like it's still not working in IE7 or IE8, according to the report?
14:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error
14:35 oleonard Bug 7339 I mean.
14:35 oleonard I found a computer here with IE9 if someone could set up a web-accessible demo with the patch applied
14:21 jcamins Good luck. :)
14:21 jcamins You're welcome.
14:21 lculber Got it. Thanks. I'll come back if I need more help. Thanks.
14:20 jcamins In that case, the easiest way is to apply the patch, then rerun the installation.
14:20 lculber No. I'm just starting the install now
14:20 jcamins Have you put any data in the database yet?
14:20 lculber I need the easiest way possible. Which would you recommend.
14:19 jcamins If you're part-way through the installation process, it's pretty easy to copy the new DOM config over manually and reindex.
14:18 lculber thanks. I thought I saw the patch, but in the git but maybe not. I'll make clean start over.
14:17 jcamins That'll save you a reindexing step later. ;)
14:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
14:17 jcamins If you're doing a new installation, you should apply the patch for bug 7284 first, then do the installation.
14:17 jcamins Yup.
14:17 lculber jcamins: you said to call if I needed help. HELP!! Do I install indexing mode for authorities as dom?
14:16 jcamins Good morning lculber!
14:15 jcamins And rather than simply complaining or something, it pretends it's busy.
14:15 jcamins oleonard: it doesn't like :8080
14:14 oleonard What's Safari doing jcamins, besides being awkward to use and generally annoying?
14:11 kf heh
14:11 oleonard kf: Now I notice all the inconsistencies in Bugzilla's interface ;)
14:11 jcamins safari--
14:08 kf making it more consistent carefullly
14:08 kf Perhaps starting in the opac would not be a bad idea
14:06 oleonard I think so. If we find what we think is an exception we can discuss.
14:06 kf and names and languages, countries (of course)
14:06 kf oleonard: does the rule always work? that the first word should be capitalized?
14:05 kf Advanced Search | Browse by author or subject | Tag Cloud
14:05 kf so next time I am working on those templates... I know which is the right form! :)
14:05 kf I don't want to blame anyone - I only want a rule to follow!
14:04 oleonard I agree 100%, and am personally to blame for much of it.
14:04 kf Publisher Location
14:04 kf Location and availability
14:04 kf Publication Date Range:
14:04 kf [More options] [New Search]
14:04 kf we have
14:04 kf example: advanced search
14:04 kf heh
14:03 * oleonard had it filed in the corner of his brain for nagging open bugs he didn't want to deal with
14:03 kf it's very mixed up right now
14:03 kf I wondered about the capitalization for some time
14:03 kf I didn't even know it existed :)
14:03 * oleonard didn't even know it was closed
14:02 oleonard Yes
14:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, capitalizing strings
14:02 kf bug 2780
14:02 kyle but that is not directly related to the patch in question.
14:02 kf oleonard: ok with me reopening 2780?
14:02 kf I think that is failed qa
14:02 kyle In the sub it uses 020 for marc21, and 010 for unimarc.
14:02 kf http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd345.html
14:01 kf same field?
14:01 kf kyle: wonder why there is no UNIMARC/MARC21 thing
14:01 jcamins 365 is price.
14:01 kf it is, but not related to price
14:01 jcamins No, maybe not.
14:01 kyle Not unimarc either, I don't know why it's in there. Paul wrote the code.
14:01 jcamins kf: I think that's RDA.
14:01 jcamins kf: the currency symbol is usually included in 020.
14:01 kf but it should check the syspref if that is the case
14:01 kf kyle: about 345 - that looks weird, perhaps unimarc?
14:00 kyle I suppose in a way it is a graceful failure, because you can really put anything you want in there, it's not limited to a single dollar value anyway.
13:59 kf we probably need it to search for numbers, and decimal , and decimal .
13:59 kyle oleonard: it doesn't really choke, it just doesn't pull the price over. You get an empty field instead of the price.
13:59 kf I mean the marc21 standard
13:59 kyle jcamins: I'll do that. Thanks.
13:59 oleonard What do you mean by "choke?" It should have error-handling at least.
13:59 kf kyle: I would note that on the bug, if the standard says you can do that, it should not choke
13:58 jcamins kyle: but ask kf, because I don't actually know anything about acquisitions.
13:58 jcamins kyle: not in my opinion.
13:56 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7231 major, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , ordering from staged file not using price
13:56 kyle I've been testing the patch for Bug 7231. It works great, as long as there is no dollar sign in 020$c. Is it acceptable for Koha to choke when currency symbols are used in price fields?
13:56 jcamins Good morning kyle.
13:55 jcamins Yay! I managed to get my VM to shut down.
13:55 kf hi kyle
13:55 oleonard Hi kyle
13:55 kyle hello all.
13:55 * oleonard keeps forgetting to test a couple of Chrome bugs when he's at home on his Mac...
13:55 jcamins Kinda.
13:55 jcamins VT0 still works.
13:54 jcamins I just crashed my VM.
13:54 jcamins Whoops.
13:52 * tcohen drinks mate
13:52 * jcamins drinks more tea.
13:52 * jcamins realizes you meant the date.
13:52 jcamins tcohen: it's 8:51am here.
13:52 tcohen oh, i just noticed its already 8 in some places
13:52 jcamins Exactly.
13:51 oleonard wibbly-wobbly circulatey stuff.
13:51 jcamins It's the more circulate-y stuff that's a problem.
13:51 jcamins That much I can handle.
13:50 kf but that's circulation! :)
13:49 jcamins It works partly.
13:49 jcamins :P
13:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number
13:49 jcamins kf: no, I'm testing bug 7241.
13:49 kf now... I scared you all away?
13:45 kf I can see...
13:45 kf jcamins: I can those bugs are smiling at you ;)
13:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items
13:44 kf bug 6199
13:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6851 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , A utility that will search out analytics records and set the MARC header appropriately.
13:44 kf bug 6851 - that has practically your (or my...) name on it
13:43 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6496 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client
13:43 kf bug 6496
13:43 kf jcamins: I think some are about cataloging
13:41 oleonard don't confuse me with your big numbers
13:40 jcamins (that needs sign off)
13:40 jcamins oleonard: but there's just one!
13:40 oleonard That's the way I feel about the authorities bugs jcamins
13:39 jcamins There's one.
13:34 jcamins Or things that I generally don't understand.
13:34 jcamins Almost everything is about circ or acquisitions.
13:34 * jcamins remembers why he hasn't been signing off on things.
13:30 kf oleonard: I am sure that's not true :)
13:30 kf later today
13:30 kf jcamins: remind me to pack some data
13:30 * oleonard isn't even smart enough to read the bug report for that
13:30 * magnuse turns on the twitter feeds for gbsd
13:30 kf ooh
13:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
13:29 jcamins oleonard: if we're doing that, don't forget about bug 7284!
13:28 kf in spirit of gbsd in kiribati :)
13:28 kf I will try to do some things tonight
13:28 kf heh
13:28 oleonard People plugging their pet patch for potential peer perusal?
13:28 jcamins Oops.
13:28 jcamins I wrote it.
13:28 jcamins It's something that I definitely want.
13:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7501 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , OPAC authority browser should mark alternate rows as highlighted
13:27 jcamins I just spotted Bug 7501 and was very excited about it.
13:27 * magnuse neither
13:27 jcamins_away Heh.
13:27 * oleonard neither
13:27 jcamins_away Just IE8.
13:27 jcamins_away I don't have IE9.
13:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error
13:27 jcamins_away Not bug 7339, though.
13:26 kf hi jcamins_away and oleonard :)
13:26 magnus_afk jcamins_away: that would be awesome!
13:26 magnus_afk hiya oleonard
13:26 jcamins_away Hm, maybe I'll sign off on some bugs this morning.
13:25 oleonard Hi bug-squashers
13:23 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -9.0ï¿½C (2:00 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -15.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Falling).
13:23 kf @wunder Konstanz
12:28 tcohen mornin #koha
12:04 SHEIKH303 need help badly!!
11:44 sheikh303 any suggestion?
11:44 sheikh303 again koha problem... i am getting a error message on catalog page when not logged out.. according to the opac-main.tt the error message is showing instead of login form
11:31 gaetan_B aah sorry wrong channel again ;)
11:30 gaetan_B matts: pour le vendangeur demain, ce sera possible de suivre Ã distance Ã©ventuellement ?
11:12 Culiforge opinion: what's my best option for installing koha on fedora 14?
11:09 Amit_Gupta heya gatetan_B
11:04 gaetan_B sheikh303: thanks, keep me informed !
11:03 paul_p_mtg gaetan_B someone started a wiki page, but it's not finished I think : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Centos_6.2_i386
11:03 huginn` sheikh303: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
11:03 sheikh303 @gaetan_B: i just tried few days ago and spent 2 days with several resources. but no luck :(
11:03 gaetan_B is it feasible and if yes is it worth the trouble ?
11:02 gaetan_B has anyone ever installed koha on a centos machine ?
11:02 gaetan_B hello again
11:01 sheikh303 yes
11:01 sheikh303 i want to show the catalog page which is 127.0.0.1:8080/catalog by default.
11:01 magnuse :8080 is usually the internal part of koha
11:00 sheikh303 no its not the case.. actually when i hit 127.0.1.1:8080 this returns only a login page
10:59 magnuse so that when a user logs in he lands on the front page, not on "my summary"?
10:56 sheikh303 i just installed koha.. on my localhost. i want redirect the default login landing page to catalog page/opac view
10:55 magnuse ask away sheikh303, someone might be able to help you
10:54 sheikh303 hi there,need help about koha OPAC view!
10:21 asaurat tschÃ¼ss!
10:21 drojf off to work, bye #koha
10:04 kf go kiribati go :)
10:04 kf yay :)
10:03 magnuse it's on: http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/gbsd/gbsd9/hourlystatus-gbsd9.txt
10:01 drojf [off] a "Technological Institute" using a five year old version of koha sounds not very promising
09:59 kf lol
09:55 asaurat SELECT * FROM bilboitems; -> ring, mithril chainmail
09:54 magnuse heh
09:54 drojf make bilboitems a shortcut for biblioitems ;)
09:54 asaurat lolll
09:52 kf everytime I write sql using biblioitems, I type bilboitems
09:47 magnuse yay
09:46 kf magnuse++
09:44 drojf will do that. but now i have to get prepared for non-koha work :(
09:44 drojf ah :)
09:44 kf you can put your apologies there :)
09:44 kf http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_Meeting,_8_February_2012
09:44 kf I doubt a lot of europeans will be around
09:43 drojf either that or asleep the whole following day. i think my boss won't agree
09:43 kf it's a really really bad time
09:42 kf I will be asleep
09:42 kf yeah
09:40 drojf irc meeting at 2 utc? brr.
09:36 drojf well not that many actually
09:36 drojf so many things waiting to be generalized and put in koha by me :/
09:36 kf so many thigns still waiting for testing... GBSD people!
09:36 drojf oh
09:36 magnuse yup
09:36 kf next release
09:36 magnuse yeah...
09:36 kf scary
09:36 magnuse 22nd april
09:36 kf time moves fast
09:35 kf yes
09:35 kf oh
09:35 kf ?
09:35 magnuse ooh, 2 months, 2 weeks, 1 day until 2012-04-22
09:35 magnuse gah
09:35 magnuse ooh, 2 months an2 weeks until
09:34 drojf true :)
09:34 asaurat you can find little wonders in surprising places =)
09:33 asaurat yep, Berlin is huuuge
09:31 drojf nice, i like wedding. never really had anything to do in schÃ¶neberg. berlin is big enough to actually not know all areas :D
09:28 asaurat for 6 months in SchÃ¶neberg, then 1 year in Wedding, near Pankstr.
09:28 drojf where did you live in berlin?
09:27 drojf yeah berlin is getting better at winter-ing. i remember mostly brownish mud instead of snow, but the last winters were quite harsh. once i have adjusted i like it ;)
09:26 asaurat but this one seems to be even worse :D
09:26 asaurat I lived there for a while =) was nice, had two very snowy winters
09:25 drojf yes
09:25 asaurat drojf, you're in Berlin?
09:23 drojf :)
09:23 kf we can help you :)
09:23 grharry in fact the only options I am getting in the encoding field of the server are ( UTF-8, MARC-8, euc-kr , and a couple of ISO's ) .... need to access the code ...
09:23 * drojf should have another look at git then perhaps
09:22 kf yay!
09:22 magnuse it starts in 40 minutes, kiribati time!
09:22 kf tomorrow is gbsd
09:22 kf oh yes
09:22 drojf was quite cold in the end
09:22 wahanui next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-02-08_Global_bug_squashing_day
09:22 magnuse next gbsd?
09:22 drojf me too
09:21 kf glad you survived your 'walk'
09:21 drojf heh
09:21 drojf moin kf
09:21 kf I win again!
09:21 kf guten morgen drojf
09:21 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -12.0ï¿½C (10:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -14.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Falling).
09:21 kf @wunder Konstanz
09:21 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -11.7ï¿½C (10:12 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -19.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -16.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.75 in 1041.2 hPa (Steady).
09:21 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
09:20 magnuse grharry: i never got around around to diggin any deeper than that...
09:20 drojf hi magnuse
09:20 grharry magnuse: I am sure I did but with no success ... !! :-(
09:19 magnuse hiya drojf
09:18 magnuse grharry: when you add/edit a z39.50 server there is a setting for encoding - try different settings for that
09:18 drojf good day #koha
09:17 grharry Need some hints-help ... a remote z39.50 server Is replying my queries with ISO88597 charset .... how should I configure it ... yaz-client allows me to fiddle the charsets .. how about koha ??
09:07 kf asaurat: no idea
08:53 asaurat has someone here already used the sortmax parameter ? (found in zebra-biblios.cfg)
08:52 Oak Good Morning kf :)
08:51 * kf wonders if a snowwoman has super powers
08:51 kf morning asaurat
08:51 kf heh
08:51 asaurat hi, snowoman :D
08:50 asaurat brr... -12 in Konstanz :D
08:43 kf my favourite cafe was closed too yesterday - frozen pipes
08:43 kf ouch :(
08:42 mbalmer here it's so cold that the water pipes in my house froze the second time.
08:31 kf morning francharb
08:30 francharb good morning
08:27 * paul_p start monthly BibLibre board meeting
08:27 paul_p sorroundings got some cm
08:27 paul_p (center of Marseille)
08:27 paul_p in our home.
08:27 paul_p magnuse 5mm last we
08:26 magnuse paul_p: any snow?
08:26 kf hm no, it's very very very cold here - you only get 2 very ;)
08:26 magnuse oh wow -6!
08:26 paul_p I don't remember having a so low temp here
08:26 paul_p yep, very very very cold.
08:26 kf bonjour sophie_m
08:25 kf brrr cold in marseille!
08:25 kf most templates are a mix
08:25 kf paul_p: I always wondered about the right capitalization too
08:25 paul_p thx kf
08:25 huginn` paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -6.0ï¿½C (9:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -15.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -15.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
08:25 paul_p @wunder Marseille, France
08:25 kf paul_p++ for being picky about inconsistencies :)
08:24 magnuse heh
08:24 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -12.0ï¿½C (9:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -14.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Falling).
08:23 kf @wunder Konstanz
08:23 kf hm snowwoman
08:23 kf I looked like a snowman :)
08:23 kf it's snowing
08:23 magnuse woohoo, kf made it!
08:13 asaurat hi
08:13 magnuse bonjour france
08:13 gaetan_B :)
08:12 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B
08:12 gaetan_B hello
08:12 paul_p good morning #koha
07:58 Oak :)
07:54 magnuse she'll be back :-)
07:54 magnuse Oak
07:51 Oak uh ho, missed cait
07:51 Oak magnuse
07:43 cait magnuse: not yet :)
07:43 cait ok, brb
07:39 magnuse cait: your employer doesn't offer that service?
07:39 magnuse bonjour reiveune
07:39 cait ... beaming to work would be a nice feature today
07:39 magnuse ooh, 10 degrees colder than here!
07:39 reiveune hello cait, magnuse, everybody
07:39 cait brrrr
07:39 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.2ï¿½C (8:34 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -14.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -12.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa (Steady).
07:39 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:39 cait morning reiveune :)
07:39 cait magnuse: thank you :)
07:39 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Banak, Norway is -23.0ï¿½C (7:50 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -25.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -28.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady).
07:39 magnuse @wunder karasjok
07:38 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -39.0ï¿½C (7:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -42.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.71 in 1040 hPa (Rising).
07:38 magnuse @wunder kautokeino
07:38 magnuse yay!
07:38 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0ï¿½C (8:20 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -11.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -10.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady).
07:38 magnuse @wunder boo
07:38 magnuse you have my deepest sympathy :-)
07:35 cait yeah
07:34 magnuse cait: distance studies?
07:34 magnuse guten morgen cait
07:33 cait accounting--
07:33 cait :)
07:33 cait morning magnuse
07:32 magnuse kia ora #koha
07:24 mbalmer hello all!
07:24 cait morning mbalmer
07:22 cait morning alex_a :)
07:21 alex_a morning all
05:15 eythian hello
05:15 cait hi Amit_Gupta
05:15 Amit_Gupta heya cait, eythian
05:13 cait hi eythian :)
05:13 eythian hi cait
05:11 cait good morning #koha
04:03 eythian bye
04:02 Space_Librarian toodle pip all. see you on the flip side.
03:54 jcamins Good night, #koha.
03:37 bag hey Amit_Gupta
03:37 Amit_Gupta heya bag
03:33 jcamins The last batch of cookies is in the oven.
03:32 Oak kia ora #koha
03:22 Space_Librarian cake was good.
03:22 * jcamins is baking cookies.
03:22 jcamins Cake!
03:22 jcamins Mmm.
03:22 eythian cake'll do that :)
03:22 Space_Librarian eythian ++ for calming my panicked librarians.
01:30 jcamins Myshkin doesn't know what to make of Shakespeare, apparently.
01:21 jcamins Ooh! It's Reduced Shakespeare Company time!
00:41 rangi so far so good
00:40 jcamins How's the conference going?
00:40 jcamins Hello!
00:39 rangi sup from melbourne