Time Nick Message 00:39 rangi sup from melbourne 00:40 jcamins Hello! 00:40 jcamins How's the conference going? 00:41 rangi so far so good 01:21 jcamins Ooh! It's Reduced Shakespeare Company time! 01:30 jcamins Myshkin doesn't know what to make of Shakespeare, apparently. 03:22 Space_Librarian eythian ++ for calming my panicked librarians. 03:22 eythian cake'll do that :) 03:22 jcamins Mmm. 03:22 jcamins Cake! 03:22 * jcamins is baking cookies. 03:22 Space_Librarian cake was good. 03:32 Oak kia ora #koha 03:33 jcamins The last batch of cookies is in the oven. 03:37 Amit_Gupta heya bag 03:37 bag hey Amit_Gupta 03:54 jcamins Good night, #koha. 04:02 Space_Librarian toodle pip all. see you on the flip side. 04:03 eythian bye 05:11 cait good morning #koha 05:13 eythian hi cait 05:13 cait hi eythian :) 05:15 Amit_Gupta heya cait, eythian 05:15 cait hi Amit_Gupta 05:15 eythian hello 07:21 alex_a morning all 07:22 cait morning alex_a :) 07:24 cait morning mbalmer 07:24 mbalmer hello all! 07:32 magnuse kia ora #koha 07:33 cait morning magnuse 07:33 cait :) 07:33 cait accounting-- 07:34 magnuse guten morgen cait 07:34 magnuse cait: distance studies? 07:35 cait yeah 07:38 magnuse you have my deepest sympathy :-) 07:38 magnuse @wunder boo 07:38 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0�C (8:20 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady). 07:38 magnuse yay! 07:38 magnuse @wunder kautokeino 07:38 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -39.0�C (7:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -42.0�C. Pressure: 30.71 in 1040 hPa (Rising). 07:39 magnuse @wunder karasjok 07:39 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Banak, Norway is -23.0�C (7:50 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -25.0�C. Windchill: -28.0�C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady). 07:39 cait magnuse: thank you :) 07:39 cait morning reiveune :) 07:39 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:39 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.2�C (8:34 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa (Steady). 07:39 cait brrrr 07:39 reiveune hello cait, magnuse, everybody 07:39 magnuse ooh, 10 degrees colder than here! 07:39 cait ... beaming to work would be a nice feature today 07:39 magnuse bonjour reiveune 07:39 magnuse cait: your employer doesn't offer that service? 07:43 cait ok, brb 07:43 cait magnuse: not yet :) 07:51 Oak magnuse 07:51 Oak uh ho, missed cait 07:54 magnuse Oak 07:54 magnuse she'll be back :-) 07:58 Oak :) 08:12 paul_p good morning #koha 08:12 gaetan_B hello 08:12 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B 08:13 gaetan_B :) 08:13 magnuse bonjour france 08:13 asaurat hi 08:23 magnuse woohoo, kf made it! 08:23 kf it's snowing 08:23 kf I looked like a snowman :) 08:23 kf hm snowwoman 08:23 kf @wunder Konstanz 08:24 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -12.0�C (9:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Falling). 08:24 magnuse heh 08:25 kf paul_p++ for being picky about inconsistencies :) 08:25 paul_p @wunder Marseille, France 08:25 huginn` paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -6.0�C (9:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 08:25 paul_p thx kf 08:25 kf paul_p: I always wondered about the right capitalization too 08:25 kf most templates are a mix 08:25 kf brrr cold in marseille! 08:26 kf bonjour sophie_m 08:26 paul_p yep, very very very cold. 08:26 paul_p I don't remember having a so low temp here 08:26 magnuse oh wow -6! 08:26 kf hm no, it's very very very cold here - you only get 2 very ;) 08:26 magnuse paul_p: any snow? 08:27 paul_p magnuse 5mm last we 08:27 paul_p in our home. 08:27 paul_p (center of Marseille) 08:27 paul_p sorroundings got some cm 08:27 * paul_p start monthly BibLibre board meeting 08:30 francharb good morning 08:31 kf morning francharb 08:42 mbalmer here it's so cold that the water pipes in my house froze the second time. 08:43 kf ouch :( 08:43 kf my favourite cafe was closed too yesterday - frozen pipes 08:50 asaurat brr... -12 in Konstanz :D 08:51 asaurat hi, snowoman :D 08:51 kf heh 08:51 kf morning asaurat 08:51 * kf wonders if a snowwoman has super powers 08:52 Oak Good Morning kf :) 08:53 asaurat has someone here already used the sortmax parameter ? (found in zebra-biblios.cfg) 09:07 kf asaurat: no idea 09:17 grharry Need some hints-help ... a remote z39.50 server Is replying my queries with ISO88597 charset .... how should I configure it ... yaz-client allows me to fiddle the charsets .. how about koha ?? 09:18 drojf good day #koha 09:18 magnuse grharry: when you add/edit a z39.50 server there is a setting for encoding - try different settings for that 09:19 magnuse hiya drojf 09:20 grharry magnuse: I am sure I did but with no success ... !! :-( 09:20 drojf hi magnuse 09:20 magnuse grharry: i never got around around to diggin any deeper than that... 09:21 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 09:21 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -11.7�C (10:12 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: 30.75 in 1041.2 hPa (Steady). 09:21 kf @wunder Konstanz 09:21 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -12.0�C (10:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Falling). 09:21 kf guten morgen drojf 09:21 kf I win again! 09:21 drojf moin kf 09:21 drojf heh 09:21 kf glad you survived your 'walk' 09:22 drojf me too 09:22 magnuse next gbsd? 09:22 wahanui next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-02-08_Global_bug_squashing_day 09:22 drojf was quite cold in the end 09:22 kf oh yes 09:22 kf tomorrow is gbsd 09:22 magnuse it starts in 40 minutes, kiribati time! 09:22 kf yay! 09:23 * drojf should have another look at git then perhaps 09:23 grharry in fact the only options I am getting in the encoding field of the server are ( UTF-8, MARC-8, euc-kr , and a couple of ISO's ) .... need to access the code ... 09:23 kf we can help you :) 09:23 drojf :) 09:25 asaurat drojf, you're in Berlin? 09:25 drojf yes 09:26 asaurat I lived there for a while =) was nice, had two very snowy winters 09:26 asaurat but this one seems to be even worse :D 09:27 drojf yeah berlin is getting better at winter-ing. i remember mostly brownish mud instead of snow, but the last winters were quite harsh. once i have adjusted i like it ;) 09:28 drojf where did you live in berlin? 09:28 asaurat for 6 months in Schöneberg, then 1 year in Wedding, near Pankstr. 09:31 drojf nice, i like wedding. never really had anything to do in schöneberg. berlin is big enough to actually not know all areas :D 09:33 asaurat yep, Berlin is huuuge 09:34 asaurat you can find little wonders in surprising places =) 09:34 drojf true :) 09:35 magnuse ooh, 2 months an2 weeks until 09:35 magnuse gah 09:35 magnuse ooh, 2 months, 2 weeks, 1 day until 2012-04-22 09:35 kf ? 09:35 kf oh 09:35 kf yes 09:36 kf time moves fast 09:36 magnuse 22nd april 09:36 kf scary 09:36 magnuse yeah... 09:36 kf next release 09:36 magnuse yup 09:36 drojf oh 09:36 kf so many thigns still waiting for testing... GBSD people! 09:36 drojf so many things waiting to be generalized and put in koha by me :/ 09:36 drojf well not that many actually 09:40 drojf irc meeting at 2 utc? brr. 09:42 kf yeah 09:42 kf I will be asleep 09:43 kf it's a really really bad time 09:43 drojf either that or asleep the whole following day. i think my boss won't agree 09:44 kf I doubt a lot of europeans will be around 09:44 kf http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_Meeting,_8_February_2012 09:44 kf you can put your apologies there :) 09:44 drojf ah :) 09:44 drojf will do that. but now i have to get prepared for non-koha work :( 09:46 kf magnuse++ 09:47 magnuse yay 09:52 kf everytime I write sql using biblioitems, I type bilboitems 09:54 asaurat lolll 09:54 drojf make bilboitems a shortcut for biblioitems ;) 09:54 magnuse heh 09:55 asaurat SELECT * FROM bilboitems; -> ring, mithril chainmail 09:59 kf lol 10:01 drojf [off] a "Technological Institute" using a five year old version of koha sounds not very promising 10:03 magnuse it's on: http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/gbsd/gbsd9/hourlystatus-gbsd9.txt 10:04 kf yay :) 10:04 kf go kiribati go :) 10:21 drojf off to work, bye #koha 10:21 asaurat tschüss! 10:54 sheikh303 hi there,need help about koha OPAC view! 10:55 magnuse ask away sheikh303, someone might be able to help you 10:56 sheikh303 i just installed koha.. on my localhost. i want redirect the default login landing page to catalog page/opac view 10:59 magnuse so that when a user logs in he lands on the front page, not on "my summary"? 11:00 sheikh303 no its not the case.. actually when i hit 127.0.1.1:8080 this returns only a login page 11:01 magnuse :8080 is usually the internal part of koha 11:01 sheikh303 i want to show the catalog page which is 127.0.0.1:8080/catalog by default. 11:01 sheikh303 yes 11:02 gaetan_B hello again 11:02 gaetan_B has anyone ever installed koha on a centos machine ? 11:03 gaetan_B is it feasible and if yes is it worth the trouble ? 11:03 sheikh303 @gaetan_B: i just tried few days ago and spent 2 days with several resources. but no luck :( 11:03 huginn` sheikh303: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 11:03 paul_p_mtg gaetan_B someone started a wiki page, but it's not finished I think : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Centos_6.2_i386 11:04 gaetan_B sheikh303: thanks, keep me informed ! 11:09 Amit_Gupta heya gatetan_B 11:12 Culiforge opinion: what's my best option for installing koha on fedora 14? 11:30 gaetan_B matts: pour le vendangeur demain, ce sera possible de suivre à distance éventuellement ? 11:31 gaetan_B aah sorry wrong channel again ;) 11:44 sheikh303 again koha problem... i am getting a error message on catalog page when not logged out.. according to the opac-main.tt the error message is showing instead of login form 11:44 sheikh303 any suggestion? 12:04 SHEIKH303 need help badly!! 12:28 tcohen mornin #koha 13:23 kf @wunder Konstanz 13:23 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -9.0�C (2:00 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Falling). 13:25 oleonard Hi bug-squashers 13:26 jcamins_away Hm, maybe I'll sign off on some bugs this morning. 13:26 magnus_afk hiya oleonard 13:26 magnus_afk jcamins_away: that would be awesome! 13:26 kf hi jcamins_away and oleonard :) 13:27 jcamins_away Not bug 7339, though. 13:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error 13:27 jcamins_away I don't have IE9. 13:27 jcamins_away Just IE8. 13:27 * oleonard neither 13:27 jcamins_away Heh. 13:27 * magnuse neither 13:27 jcamins I just spotted Bug 7501 and was very excited about it. 13:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7501 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , OPAC authority browser should mark alternate rows as highlighted 13:28 jcamins It's something that I definitely want. 13:28 jcamins I wrote it. 13:28 jcamins Oops. 13:28 oleonard People plugging their pet patch for potential peer perusal? 13:28 kf heh 13:28 kf I will try to do some things tonight 13:28 kf in spirit of gbsd in kiribati :) 13:29 jcamins oleonard: if we're doing that, don't forget about bug 7284! 13:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements 13:30 kf ooh 13:30 * magnuse turns on the twitter feeds for gbsd 13:30 * oleonard isn't even smart enough to read the bug report for that 13:30 kf jcamins: remind me to pack some data 13:30 kf later today 13:30 kf oleonard: I am sure that's not true :) 13:34 * jcamins remembers why he hasn't been signing off on things. 13:34 jcamins Almost everything is about circ or acquisitions. 13:34 jcamins Or things that I generally don't understand. 13:39 jcamins There's one. 13:40 oleonard That's the way I feel about the authorities bugs jcamins 13:40 jcamins oleonard: but there's just one! 13:40 jcamins (that needs sign off) 13:41 oleonard don't confuse me with your big numbers 13:43 kf jcamins: I think some are about cataloging 13:43 kf bug 6496 13:43 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6496 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client 13:44 kf bug 6851 - that has practically your (or my...) name on it 13:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6851 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , A utility that will search out analytics records and set the MARC header appropriately. 13:44 kf bug 6199 13:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items 13:45 kf jcamins: I can those bugs are smiling at you ;) 13:45 kf I can see... 13:49 kf now... I scared you all away? 13:49 jcamins kf: no, I'm testing bug 7241. 13:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number 13:49 jcamins :P 13:49 jcamins It works partly. 13:50 kf but that's circulation! :) 13:51 jcamins That much I can handle. 13:51 jcamins It's the more circulate-y stuff that's a problem. 13:51 oleonard wibbly-wobbly circulatey stuff. 13:52 jcamins Exactly. 13:52 tcohen oh, i just noticed its already 8 in some places 13:52 jcamins tcohen: it's 8:51am here. 13:52 * jcamins realizes you meant the date. 13:52 * jcamins drinks more tea. 13:52 * tcohen drinks mate 13:54 jcamins Whoops. 13:54 jcamins I just crashed my VM. 13:55 jcamins VT0 still works. 13:55 jcamins Kinda. 13:55 * oleonard keeps forgetting to test a couple of Chrome bugs when he's at home on his Mac... 13:55 kyle hello all. 13:55 oleonard Hi kyle 13:55 kf hi kyle 13:55 jcamins Yay! I managed to get my VM to shut down. 13:56 jcamins Good morning kyle. 13:56 kyle I've been testing the patch for Bug 7231. It works great, as long as there is no dollar sign in 020$c. Is it acceptable for Koha to choke when currency symbols are used in price fields? 13:56 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7231 major, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , ordering from staged file not using price 13:58 jcamins kyle: not in my opinion. 13:58 jcamins kyle: but ask kf, because I don't actually know anything about acquisitions. 13:59 kf kyle: I would note that on the bug, if the standard says you can do that, it should not choke 13:59 oleonard What do you mean by "choke?" It should have error-handling at least. 13:59 kyle jcamins: I'll do that. Thanks. 13:59 kf I mean the marc21 standard 13:59 kyle oleonard: it doesn't really choke, it just doesn't pull the price over. You get an empty field instead of the price. 13:59 kf we probably need it to search for numbers, and decimal , and decimal . 14:00 kyle I suppose in a way it is a graceful failure, because you can really put anything you want in there, it's not limited to a single dollar value anyway. 14:01 kf kyle: about 345 - that looks weird, perhaps unimarc? 14:01 kf but it should check the syspref if that is the case 14:01 jcamins kf: the currency symbol is usually included in 020. 14:01 jcamins kf: I think that's RDA. 14:01 kyle Not unimarc either, I don't know why it's in there. Paul wrote the code. 14:01 jcamins No, maybe not. 14:01 kf it is, but not related to price 14:01 jcamins 365 is price. 14:01 kf kyle: wonder why there is no UNIMARC/MARC21 thing 14:01 kf same field? 14:02 kf http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd345.html 14:02 kyle In the sub it uses 020 for marc21, and 010 for unimarc. 14:02 kf I think that is failed qa 14:02 kf oleonard: ok with me reopening 2780? 14:02 kyle but that is not directly related to the patch in question. 14:02 kf bug 2780 14:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, capitalizing strings 14:02 oleonard Yes 14:03 * oleonard didn't even know it was closed 14:03 kf I didn't even know it existed :) 14:03 kf I wondered about the capitalization for some time 14:03 kf it's very mixed up right now 14:03 * oleonard had it filed in the corner of his brain for nagging open bugs he didn't want to deal with 14:04 kf heh 14:04 kf example: advanced search 14:04 kf we have 14:04 kf [More options] [New Search] 14:04 kf Publication Date Range: 14:04 kf Location and availability 14:04 kf Publisher Location 14:04 oleonard I agree 100%, and am personally to blame for much of it. 14:05 kf I don't want to blame anyone - I only want a rule to follow! 14:05 kf so next time I am working on those templates... I know which is the right form! :) 14:05 kf Advanced Search | Browse by author or subject | Tag Cloud 14:06 kf oleonard: does the rule always work? that the first word should be capitalized? 14:06 kf and names and languages, countries (of course) 14:06 oleonard I think so. If we find what we think is an exception we can discuss. 14:08 kf Perhaps starting in the opac would not be a bad idea 14:08 kf making it more consistent carefullly 14:11 jcamins safari-- 14:11 oleonard kf: Now I notice all the inconsistencies in Bugzilla's interface ;) 14:11 kf heh 14:14 oleonard What's Safari doing jcamins, besides being awkward to use and generally annoying? 14:15 jcamins oleonard: it doesn't like :8080 14:15 jcamins And rather than simply complaining or something, it pretends it's busy. 14:16 jcamins Good morning lculber! 14:17 lculber jcamins: you said to call if I needed help. HELP!! Do I install indexing mode for authorities as dom? 14:17 jcamins Yup. 14:17 jcamins If you're doing a new installation, you should apply the patch for bug 7284 first, then do the installation. 14:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements 14:17 jcamins That'll save you a reindexing step later. ;) 14:18 lculber thanks. I thought I saw the patch, but in the git but maybe not. I'll make clean start over. 14:19 jcamins If you're part-way through the installation process, it's pretty easy to copy the new DOM config over manually and reindex. 14:20 lculber I need the easiest way possible. Which would you recommend. 14:20 jcamins Have you put any data in the database yet? 14:20 lculber No. I'm just starting the install now 14:20 jcamins In that case, the easiest way is to apply the patch, then rerun the installation. 14:21 lculber Got it. Thanks. I'll come back if I need more help. Thanks. 14:21 jcamins You're welcome. 14:21 jcamins Good luck. :) 14:35 oleonard I found a computer here with IE9 if someone could set up a web-accessible demo with the patch applied 14:35 oleonard Bug 7339 I mean. 14:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error 14:35 oleonard Although it looks like it's still not working in IE7 or IE8, according to the report? 14:39 paul_p_mtg oleonard if you want to setup an accessible demo => try test5 sandbox !!! 14:43 oleonard Okay paul_p_mtg, I will try it 14:43 paul_p_mtg oleonard thx, and report the result here or by mail ! 14:45 kf paul_p_mtg: still meeting? 14:45 wahanui meeting is, like, in ~30 minutes 14:46 kf forget meeting 14:46 wahanui kf: I forgot meeting 14:51 jcamins sekjal: is the use of MD5 for bug 6874 a sufficiently serious issue that I shouldn't bother testing and should just mark it failed qa? 14:51 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC 14:51 * jcamins doesn't really understand what the issue with md5 is. All hashes have a theoretical risk of collision. 14:51 kf jcamins++ busy! 14:51 jcamins :) 14:51 kf only not for the bugs I suggested :P 14:52 paul_p_mtg kf yep, still meeting (for 10-20 more minuts) 14:52 sekjal jcamins: will need to read up on it 14:53 jcamins kf: most of those I wasn't testing because I didn't really know how to respond. 14:54 jcamins And I don't want to fail things because I envision something different. 14:54 kf hm 14:54 jcamins sekjal: I'll test it and sign off on the functionality. 14:55 paul_p_mtg jcamins I don't think it's a serious enough issue. So I agree with you 14:55 jcamins Okay, better run to catch the bus. 14:55 jcamins Back in a few. 14:55 jcamins paul_p_mtg: great. 14:55 jcamins It's a pretty cool feature, now that it's DB-based. 15:03 sekjal agreed that any hash will have a chance of conflict; it's a limited (though vast) space, and it's very hashy nature means that you cannot uniquely determine a value based on it's hash alone 15:03 sekjal SHA1 would give us a larger space, but not any solution to the fundamental problem 15:04 sekjal I think 2^128 possible values is probably enough for any library 15:04 * wizzyrea waves 15:05 kf hi wizzyrea :) 15:07 sekjal hi, wizzyrea. hi, kf 15:08 wizzyrea heya sekjal :) 15:09 kf hi sekjal :) 15:09 kf how is the new job? 15:19 sekjal kf: pretty good 15:19 sekjal working on web accessibility and mobile design a lot lately 15:19 oleonard Sounds like fun 15:20 kf :) 15:22 sekjal oleonard: it is 15:23 sekjal really want to do a mobile staff client for Koha 15:23 sekjal though I'd probably need to compile it for various platforms, instead of run it as a web app 15:25 oleonard Why? 15:26 paul_p meeting ended 15:26 * paul_p try to understand why test5 reaches a webinstaller page... (oleonard, it was probably you) 15:26 oleonard Yes, I was just about to ask 15:28 * paul_p has forgotten to automatically run updatedatabase ! how could I forget that !!! 15:28 paul_p so the sample database has a lower number as Koha. 15:28 paul_p I was sure to have written the code to fix this... 15:28 paul_p s/fix/deal with/ 15:29 paul_p oleonard which database did you choose ? 15:29 paul_p MARC21 ? or "no change" ? 15:29 oleonard "no change" 15:29 paul_p OK, that's it. If you choose "no change", then the DB is not updated ! 15:29 paul_p at all 15:30 paul_p so, last night a commit has updated the code, but not the database 15:30 * paul_p fixes that 15:31 paul_p oleonard I just retried, you should get another mail, we will see if it work better 15:31 oleonard Thanks 15:33 oleonard paul_p++ 15:33 paul_p OK, problem fixed it seems 15:34 sekjal oleonard: I want access to the mobile device's camera for barcode scanning, and that's really tough to do reliably through the browser 15:34 oleonard sekjal: Very true. 15:34 wahanui I know. That's why I said it. 15:35 sekjal oleonard: I'm envisioning Inventory and Rebarcoding as two of the major mobile functions 15:37 jcamins_away Hm. bug 6874 fails qa. :( 15:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC 15:38 magnus_afk oy! http://www.libcatcode.org/ 15:40 oleonard 90 seconds with IE9 and I want to punch it in the face. 15:43 wizzyrea hm, like stack overflow for catalogers? 15:45 gaetan_B anyone knows what the default settings are when configuring Koha as a z39.50 target? 15:46 gaetan_B i mean for port, login/password, database... and wether this is something that can be edited ? 15:46 jcamins_away It's configurable in koha_conf.xml. 15:46 gaetan_B *whether 15:46 jcamins_away Look for "publicserver". 15:47 gaetan_B hmmm thanks jcamins_away ;) 15:52 jcamins_away kf: signed off on bug 6496. 15:52 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6496 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client 15:52 jcamins_away I thought it was a different bug. 15:54 jcamins_away And you wanted me to sign off on bug 6199... 15:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items 15:54 jcamins_away Hm. Heading into a tunnel. 15:54 kf oh, on a train? 15:55 jcamins_away Bus. 15:55 kf jcamins++ anyway 15:55 jcamins_away I'll be back from uptown. 15:55 kf signing off on a bus 15:55 kf is quite impressive 15:55 jcamins_away :) 15:59 wizzyrea oleonard - i'm looking at 5280 - when I try to add a patron I get Template process failed: file error - parse error - /home/liz/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/memberentrygen.tt line 1480: unexpected end of input at /home/liz/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 126. 16:00 oleonard :( 16:00 wizzyrea :( indeed 16:00 * kf offers cookies 16:00 * kf can't stand the sad smileys 16:00 wizzyrea :) 16:00 * wizzyrea turns the frown upside down 16:03 * oleonard thinks the GBSD tweet bot might not be working correctly with new Bugzilla statuses? 16:03 wizzyrea ooo probably a good pt 16:04 * magnus_afk fears oleonard is right 16:04 magnus_afk but not have time to fix it in the near future 16:04 magnus_afk *might not 16:07 paul_p bug 5280 16:07 wahanui bug 5280 is, like, cool, finishing testing it for sign off 16:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5280 normal, P4, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Fix password field in members.pl so that the password is masked as it is entered 16:08 paul_p iirc I had the same problem, some time ago, was it with this bug ? not sure. 16:08 paul_p it's usually a missing [% END %] in the template 16:09 wizzyrea ^^ let me see if I can find where it's missing. oleonard may beat me though. 16:09 wizzyrea er 16:09 wizzyrea beat me to it, that is 16:09 wizzyrea I hope he doesn't beat me. 16:09 oleonard If you want to wizzyrea. You can also fail it if you need to. 16:09 oleonard Oh I see you did :) 16:10 wizzyrea but I may still try to find the problem ^.^ 16:10 * wizzyrea runs in circles "I'M HELPING!" 16:10 * wizzyrea also runs in circles shouting "Test plans! Test plans!" 16:11 oleonard I wonder, in light of Bug 7339, whether we need to re-think how we handle contextual help 16:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error 16:12 wizzyrea are people actually using the ability to edit that help? 16:12 kf it gets overwritten with update 16:13 wizzyrea then no, probably not. 16:13 kf and the directories have the wrong permissions when installing 16:13 kf in my experience 16:13 wizzyrea same 16:13 kf so you have to change the permissions... and save them from being overwritten 16:13 wizzyrea which means that if we want to keep them 16:13 wizzyrea they probably need to move to somewhere like /etc/ 16:13 oleonard Sounds like a pretty sucky feature :P 16:13 kf the idea is good... 16:13 wizzyrea yea, the idea *is* good 16:14 kf perhaps the way to do it is wrong 16:14 wizzyrea but I think the help should probably be kept in the db? 16:14 kf and it would be like a small cms 16:14 kf saved in the database 16:14 kf and you could add custom sections.. that would be save when updating 16:14 wizzyrea we already have that kind of functionality with "news" 16:14 kf yep 16:14 kf I was exactly thinking about news :) 16:14 wizzyrea great minds :) 16:14 kf the problem witht hat is... that database stuff is not translatable 16:14 kf *sigh* 16:14 wizzyrea well 16:14 wizzyrea the sample strings would be translatable? 16:15 kf translating in sql is very hard 16:15 kf and it's a lot of text 16:15 wizzyrea ah yea ok 16:15 wizzyrea so 16:15 kf a way to parse them into a separate po file.. that would be kinda cool 16:15 wizzyrea well how could we do it so that it would be easier to translate, but still ... ^^ this 16:15 kf I think magnuse was fighting translating the help :) 16:15 kf you could save it for last, starting with the interface 16:16 kf with separate files 16:17 wizzyrea what about 16:17 wizzyrea if in the translation script 16:17 wizzyrea when you install a language 16:17 wizzyrea it dumps out the help from the db into a .po file 16:18 wizzyrea then you "install" the new help 16:18 wizzyrea when you're done 16:18 kf hm 16:18 kf I am not sure this wil work 16:18 kf you will still want all versions 16:18 wizzyrea keep in mind, I've got no idea how it actually works. 16:18 kf installing a language should use the po file to generate sql to write that into your database 16:18 kf ah 16:18 kf but 16:18 kf perhaps we could just keep the text files 16:19 kf as is 16:19 kf and add a text block you can edit to them 16:19 kf on top 16:19 kf might be easier 16:19 kf so you can make additions... 16:19 wizzyrea or, instead of 16:19 wizzyrea writing to the files 16:19 wizzyrea keep the extra stuff in the db 16:19 wizzyrea and display it along with the stuff that gets updated 16:20 wizzyrea so your changes are always preserved 16:20 wizzyrea but the help could change around it 16:20 wizzyrea does that make sense? 16:21 wizzyrea we may be saying the same thing 16:34 wizzyrea sekjal - question about 7144 16:34 wizzyrea i'm having trouble getting the hold policy rules to save now 16:34 wizzyrea oh... wait 16:34 wizzyrea I bet I know 16:34 wizzyrea nm :) 16:35 sekjal :) 16:35 wizzyrea reading++ 16:35 wizzyrea :) 16:38 jcamins wizzyrea: speaking of test plans, there's one for bug 7284! 16:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements 16:39 wizzyrea woot! 16:39 * jcamins runs around in circles shouting "Authority matching! Authority matching!" 16:39 wizzyrea :D 16:40 wizzyrea sekjal: one more question 16:40 kf wizzyrea: yep, we are saying the same :) 16:40 kf sorry 16:40 kf covered in tickets here... 16:41 wizzyrea do you know if the new floating rules fall victim to the same issue that the other hold policy rules do, in that they don't fall back correctly (i.e. every library must have them defined for an item type for it to work across all branches/patron categories/item types) 16:41 wizzyrea I'm going to assume that problem still exists. 16:41 kf no idea 16:42 wizzyrea that was for sekjal :) 16:42 sekjal wizzyrea: I believe that problem is resolved 16:42 wizzyrea with this patch or in general 16:42 sekjal I remember testing with default library rules only, and having it work 16:43 sekjal my patch didn't change any mechanics for the hold policies in general 16:43 wizzyrea k 16:43 sekjal just piggybacked on what already existed 16:43 wizzyrea k 16:43 wizzyrea cool 16:43 wizzyrea ty 16:43 sekjal if you can verify that, it would bring us all peace of mind 16:43 wizzyrea I'll try :) 16:45 wizzyrea oleonard i love that floating save button 16:45 wizzyrea in cataloging. 16:45 wizzyrea so handy. 16:46 oleonard Thanks. I still forget it's there and scroll to the top to look for it. 16:47 wizzyrea I also still like the add item screen 16:47 wizzyrea nice when you have zillions of items. 16:49 reiveune bye 16:51 jcamins Floating save button in cataloging? 16:51 * jcamins hasn't noticed that yet. 16:51 wizzyrea it sticks to the top of the screen when you scroll down 16:51 wizzyrea so no matter where you are 16:51 wizzyrea scroll-wise 16:51 wizzyrea the save button is always visible 16:51 jcamins Very cool. 17:01 oleonard Where the heck did all my lists go? 17:01 jcamins oleonard: uh-oh. 17:02 jcamins oleonard: what patch did you just test? 17:02 oleonard Can't have been the patch I just tested--no database update. 17:03 oleonard The last database update I tested was probably my own 17:03 oleonard ...which is good news for everyone else. 17:04 * jcamins will not test that one until you've tracked down the problem. 17:07 sekjal lunch! 17:11 wizzyrea no, the thing where all branches must have a rule for an itemtype hold limit to be honored is still there. 17:11 wizzyrea it's ok, not part of this bug 17:12 wizzyrea but will need to be documented. 17:13 magnus_afk hey, we're down to 71 needs signoff - that's awesome! 17:13 wizzyrea :) 17:19 kf yes it is! 17:19 kf awesome I mean :) 17:19 kf bye all :) 17:22 * oleonard feels like all he's doing today is shooting things down 17:23 sekjal oleonard: same here 17:25 slef Connecting...error = System (lower-layer) error: Connection timed out 17:25 sekjal if anyone can test bug 6273 (requires SIP), I'd greatly appreciate it 17:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6273 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , SIP2 Fee Paid and Fee Paid Response support 17:25 slef ok, getting that from zebrasrv. What have I overlooked? 17:29 bag bug 7458 17:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7458 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , New call number allocation plugin 17:31 slef what I'd overlooked was the unix: prefix on the socket filename 17:40 jcamins paul_p: why are we using HTML4? 17:40 paul_p hehe... HTML4 is the 4th HTML coding guideline ! 17:40 paul_p not HTML4 standard ;-) 17:41 jcamins Oh. 17:41 jcamins Okay. 17:41 jcamins That's good. 17:52 slef needs a better name 17:52 paul_p OK, ttl 18:05 oleonard sekjal still around? 18:06 sekjal oleonard: yes 18:06 oleonard I have a question about Bug 7408 18:06 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Expire holds that have been waiting too long 18:06 oleonard I've run the new script successfully: expiration dates updated, fines set. 18:07 cait hi #koha 18:07 oleonard But the expiration date is set to today, and the cancel_expired_holds script only cancels holds with expiration date less than today. 18:07 wizzyrea wb cait 18:08 oleonard So if you run expire_holds_over.pl, then cancel_expired_holds.pl, then expire_holds_over.pl again, you get double-fines 18:08 cait thx wizzyrea 18:08 cait it's brrr outside 18:08 jcamins wb cait. 18:08 cait thx jcamins 18:08 oleonard I realize it won't normally be run in quick succession like that 18:08 cait @wunder Konstanz 18:08 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -10.0�C (7:00 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Rising). 18:09 sekjal oleonard: interesting... 18:09 wahanui interesting is probably good 18:10 sekjal the idea was that this would be a nightly cronjob 18:10 sekjal but it should dovetail better with the behaviour of cancel_expired_holds.pl 18:11 oleonard Is there any reason why the new script shouldn't set the expiration date to yesterday? 18:12 sekjal oleonard: or it could run with >= instead of > 18:18 cait hmm 18:18 cait sekjal: I am spotting some things on 7420 I am wondering about 18:18 cait bug 7420 18:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7420 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Add max fines to circulation matrix 18:18 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=7487 18:18 cait I see some warns there 18:19 cait those will show up in the logs, right? 18:19 sekjal cait: I think so, but I don't know for sure 18:20 cait should I note on the bug? 18:20 sekjal yes 18:21 cait ok 18:25 * cait was only looking at it because working on fines and notices today ... :( 18:26 sekjal cait++ 18:27 cait should go and make dinner 18:28 slef koha-kobli? 18:29 slef anyone know about koha-kobli? I forget if it's public or a fork or what 18:29 jcamins It's a fork that they keep on promising to release, I think. 18:33 slef ok, I'll push back on linkedin 18:33 jcamins I could be mistaken. 18:36 slef http://kobli.bage.es/descargas-kobli/ has some downloads 18:36 slef all zipfiles and pdfs 18:36 slef obscuraware 18:37 slef downloading 18:38 slef Spanish for tree, anyone? 18:38 * jcamins doesn't know Spanish, sorry. 18:39 slef aborl 18:39 slef arból even 18:39 slef hey I don't either, why should that excuse you? ;) 18:41 slef http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=kobli;a=summary 18:41 slef 2011-07-15 last update 18:45 slef [off] learn with me: liblime no es el oficial koha. Es bifurcación 18:52 Culiforge Does anyone know if there is a koha rpm for fedora? 18:55 jcamins Culiforge: there is not. 18:57 Culiforge jcamins: thx, saw someone on fed boards say there was a YUM repo for it for CentOS in which they also said that cent and fedora enterprise were the "same' 18:57 Culiforge figured I'd check here with the knowledgeable folks 18:57 jcamins Culiforge: maybe I'm wrong, then. 18:58 jcamins However, to the best of my knowledge, the last RPM was for 3.0. 18:58 cait wizzyrea: do you remember which menus were broken after applying the translation patch? 18:59 Culiforge so then my next question, the boss wants koha on fedora 14.. wiki has instructions for fed 7. what's best method in your opinions for installing.. 19:00 jcamins Culiforge: persuade him to use Debian. 19:00 jcamins Barring that, run Debian using kvm. 19:00 Culiforge jcamins: wish I could.. he's hooked on fedora because of rpmtools 19:01 jcamins Doesn't kvm let you run Fedora but also run Debian? 19:05 Culiforge jcamins: I asked around in the Fedora forums this morning for some advice and got soundly thrashed for it.. Makes me wanna dump Fedora right now if that's any indication of what their community is like 19:06 jcamins Culiforge: I haven't heard anything good about installing Koha on Fedora/RH. 19:07 Culiforge jcamins: I'll have to talk to the boss-man/fedora-man about it.. he seems to think it's easy-peasy 19:08 sekjal Culiforge: I can tell you from experience that RedHat installations are an absolute nightmare (if not flat out impossible). Not sure how much of that applies to Fedora 19:10 Culiforge sekjal: thanks for the heads up 19:11 sekjal Culiforge: you're welcome. best of luck 19:13 slef it is possible but no, not fun 19:13 lculber jcamins here? 19:13 slef after using apt and dpkg, yum and rpm feel like doing your own dentistry 19:13 oleonard jcamins is always here, especially when he says he isn't. 19:13 slef @seen jcamins 19:13 huginn` slef: jcamins was last seen in #koha 7 minutes and 39 seconds ago: <jcamins> Culiforge: I haven't heard anything good about installing Koha on Fedora/RH. 19:14 slef bbl 19:14 lculber Is anyone else testing 7824? 19:15 oleonard Check that bug number lculber 19:15 sekjal bug 7284 19:15 wahanui bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen. 19:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements 19:16 lculber I'm testing 7824 and have a question, but will check back. I'm a rank beginner but trying. 19:18 jcamins lculber: I'm here now. 19:18 jcamins Having a late lunhc. :) 19:19 jcamins *lunch 19:21 lculber jcamins: In patch testing plan setting up patch, the first part seems to be already there now. Found all files except file supposed to run installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_linking_pt1 19:22 lculber Can I still proceed. Everything else looks right. 19:22 jcamins If that file isn't there, the patch probably hasn't been applied correctly. 19:22 wizzyrea ^^ 19:22 jcamins The other files that are called for are required for all Koha installations, it just so happens that they have to be updated by the patch. 19:23 jcamins The following commands should take care of the installation: 19:23 jcamins Actually, I'll use paste.koha-community.org (one moment while I paste them) 19:25 lculber All your nice settings are in the system preferences. I was so excited. :( 19:25 jcamins Oh, they are? 19:25 jcamins Hm. 19:26 jcamins If they show up in the system preferences, the problem is probably a typo in my instructions. 19:26 jcamins If you run git log, does it show a *really long* commit message about bug 7284? 19:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements 19:27 lculber yes, it is really long 19:27 jcamins Okay, good. 19:27 lculber Not sure it is all there though 19:28 jcamins What we wanted to check was that there was a long message. 19:28 jcamins If it's not very short, it's the right patch, and installed correctly. :) 19:28 jcamins wizzyrea: there's apparently an error in my test plan. 19:28 * wizzyrea gasps 19:28 schuster schuster gasps! 19:28 wizzyrea my mental image of your perfection has been shattered! 19:29 wizzyrea wait... no, it's fine. 19:29 wizzyrea ^.^ 19:29 jcamins lculber: in that case, yeah, you can just continue with your tests. :) 19:30 wizzyrea nice test plan (seriously) 19:30 lculber you all need to remember that I'm not only a rank beginner but a total klutz, so if there is an error it is probably mine. 19:30 wizzyrea hehe - mistakes, we all make them. 19:30 wizzyrea is why we TEST ALL THE THINGS 19:31 jcamins Well, that and who doesn't like running the authority linker over and over and over? 19:31 wizzyrea http://troll.me/test-all-the-things/ 19:32 lculber I'm going to try forging ahead. If it doesn't work, I'll try reinstalling the patch. How's that sound? 19:32 jcamins That makes sense. 19:32 jcamins If you're seeing the sysprefs, though, you have it all set up properly. :) 19:32 lculber Okay. Here I go. 19:35 jcamins Who looks at the rectangular selection tool in Photoshop and says "ah-ha! We should call that the "marquee tool"? 19:35 wizzyrea why not call it the "rectangular selection tool" 19:35 lculber spoke too soon. Was setting my system prefernces and some seem to be missing, so I think something got garbled. Can you post how to fix? 19:35 jcamins wizzyrea: that's my question! 19:36 jcamins lculber: hm. What's the output of ls ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate 19:36 wizzyrea this is me hoping that you didn't do that on your production system ^.^ 19:40 lculber opps - senior moment. forgot where the paste thing is. The output of ls ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate is 10 lines long 19:41 jcamins http://paste.koha-community.org/ 19:42 pastebot "lculber" at 220.127.116.11 pasted "ls ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/245 19:42 jcamins Yeah, typo on my part it looks like. 19:43 jcamins Run: perl ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_linking_pt1 19:43 schuster Get it all square - I'm working on getting a "testing" machine setup - I'm stripping all my data and loading only 50,000 bibs so it will be manageable. 19:44 schuster jcamins - did you want my Auth and biblio? I extracted the screens as you instructed so could provide you my full data if you want them still. 19:44 pastebot "lculber" at 18.104.22.168 pasted "perl output" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/246 19:45 jcamins lculber: Ah! You need to set KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB. 19:45 jcamins As follows: 19:45 jcamins export KOHA_CONF=/home/lculber/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml 19:45 jcamins export PERL5LIB=/home/lculber/kohaclone 19:45 jcamins Then rerun. 19:45 jcamins schuster: At this point I'm having other people test so that we can get the improved linking into Koha ASAP, so there's probably no point in sending it. 19:47 schuster Sorry I've been so behind in helping test... I finally found my usb drives to help me move files around here at the office! For me to do testing and interact I have to do it at home right now so it is a pain. Needs to look into what it would take to open stuff here at the office. 19:48 jcamins That's okay. 19:48 lculber Success! Upgrade done (Configured bug 7284, improved authority matching) 19:48 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements 19:49 jcamins Woohoo! 19:49 jcamins Now you just play with the options and see if it does what you want! :) 19:49 jcamins Then, when it does (I'm being optimistic), you can sign off. :) 19:49 jcamins You may want to add those two export... lines to your ~/.profile file, so that they're always set. 19:50 lculber I did know better. I just messed up. They are actually in koha_test 19:51 lculber my bad. 19:51 jcamins We all do that sort of thing. That's what #koha is for. 19:51 jcamins Well, that and discussing food. 19:51 lculber So I need to reinstall yet again, right? 19:52 jcamins Nope. 19:52 * magnus_afk perks up at the mention of food 19:52 jcamins Now you just try the linker. 19:53 jcamins magnus_afk: the cookies I made yesterday came out very tasty. 19:54 magnus_afk jcamins: yay! 19:54 magnus_afk i'll take your word for it 19:55 * oleonard tests an acquisitions bug by ordering "Netscape 2 simplified" 19:57 * jcamins wonders how long it will be before he encounters a collector who actually collects that sort of book. 19:57 magnus_afk o/ 19:58 lculber jcamins: all links same Duplicate entry - so were already there from first time run? 19:58 lculber sorry. All lines say Duplicate entry for key 'PRIMARY 19:59 jcamins Ah. 19:59 jcamins Yes, that means it installed properly. 19:59 jcamins (previously) 20:06 schuster jcamins what type of cookies did you make? 20:06 jcamins schuster: my family calls them "sandtarts," but they're not the same as everyone else's "sandtarts." 20:06 schuster about time druthb_away joined Koha LOL.... 20:07 schuster Never heard of one what is that? 20:08 schuster Just looked it up they remind me of the italian wedding cookie... hummmm. 20:09 jcamins They're chocolate chip cookies with a bit of lemon extract and no baking soda or baking powder. 20:09 jcamins Very tasty. 20:09 jcamins I've never had what most people call "sandtarts." 20:09 jcamins Right, those are nothing like what I made. 20:11 jcamins Really easy recipe: 1 c. butter, 1-1/4 c. sugar, 1 tsp. vanilla extract, 1 tsp. lemon extract, 1 egg, 2 c. flour, 1 c. chocolate chips. Bake 7-9 min at 350F 20:13 jcamins They're favorites, as you could probably tell from the way I could give you the recipe off the top of my head. 20:13 oleonard I'm still looking for comments on Bug 7493 if any database-savvy folks care to look 20:13 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7493 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments" 20:16 cait oleonard: your logic made sense to me - only not sure if a null borrowernumber will make problems somewhere? 20:16 cait display in opac/moderating comments/recent comments 20:17 oleonard Yes, of course the next step will be to find and fix those problems. 20:17 lculber jcamins: I have data in the database. Would that have everything off? 20:18 jcamins lculber: it defaults to exactly the way it behaves now. 20:19 jcamins So it'll be set to LinkerRelink = on, and the others off. 20:20 schuster So is there an easy way to see bugs needing sign off? 20:20 jcamins lculber: you can try setting it just to the combination of settings that you think is most appropriate for *your* data, though, to start with. 20:20 jcamins schuster: I'm glad you asked! 20:20 jcamins There is indeed. 20:20 jcamins Uh-oh. 20:20 jcamins Is bugs.k-c.org down? 20:20 schuster jcamins so you just mix together and bake? just a regular cookie? 20:20 jcamins schuster: yup. 20:21 sekjal schuster: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=Needs%20Signoff&sharer_id=1&list_id=21309 20:21 schuster thanks sekjal 20:22 jcamins lculber: the link_bibs_to_authorities.pl task is now much faster, so you could even try lots of different combinations to see what works best for you. 20:22 jcamins lculber: you could also just work through the test plan, actually, since that will test almost every possibility. 20:31 lculber jcamins: I just did a quick reinstall - took 2 minutes - just to see. I'm working through your test instructions again now 20:32 jcamins lculber: this is a particularly large patch- once you've gotten through the signing off procedure on this one, you should be pretty much comfortable to sign off on anything you're interested in. :) 20:33 cait heh 20:34 lculber jcamins: the setting up patch instructions went just as they should this time so, I think the patch did NOT install correctly the first time. 20:35 lculber jcamins: Since I already have biblios and authorities in the database, do I need to run zebra indexing before or after running misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r 20:36 lculber opps that didn't make sense, did it? Duh! 20:36 jcamins lculber: not really, no. 20:36 jcamins :) 20:37 schuster jcamins - do you have to have it indexed before you do the linking? 20:37 jcamins schuster: yes. 20:37 jcamins schuster: well, the authorities have to be indexed. 20:37 schuster OK thanks 20:37 jcamins How else could the linker find them. 20:37 jcamins *? 20:37 jcamins ;) 20:38 lculber Well, I'm off to do indexing then. 100000+ biblios and about 24500 authorities I think, so it will be a while. I'll check back. 20:38 jcamins Yeah, that'll take a bit. 20:49 oleonard magnus_afk++ # for fixing tweet bot 20:49 wizzyrea I really like the tweet bot 20:49 wizzyrea it could go all the time and i wouldn't complain. 20:51 jcamins Tweet bot? 20:51 oleonard Whatever witchery sends the GBSD tweets 20:52 jcamins What GBSD tweets? 20:52 oleonard https://twitter.com/KohaGBSD 20:54 jcamins Cool! 20:54 * wizzyrea pokes qa about bug 7001 20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , User Configurable Slips 20:54 cait ok, my data is imported :P 20:55 * cait joins the ranks for testing bug 7284 20:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements 20:55 jcamins cait++ 20:56 wizzyrea any way to *export* authorities from koha? 20:56 wizzyrea or is that a "can of worms" 20:56 jcamins wizzyrea: I just use "SELECT marc FROM auth_header;" 20:56 wizzyrea ohsnaps 20:56 wizzyrea okies 20:56 sekjal wizzyrea: there is also a command line utility 20:57 wizzyrea wut wut 20:57 jcamins sekjal: there is? 20:57 * wizzyrea peers at sekjal 20:57 wizzyrea srsly? 20:58 sekjal misc/exportauth.pl 20:58 wizzyrea wowie 20:58 wizzyrea i had no idea. 20:58 jcamins Cool! 20:58 jcamins Nor did I. 20:59 sekjal just does what jcamins described, only automated and into one output file 20:59 wizzyrea still - neat 20:59 sekjal agreed 21:00 sekjal 7001 is way too big for me to QA today 21:00 sekjal sorry 21:01 wizzyrea :) all good, just getting it on the radar. :) 21:01 sekjal it's just about time for me to take off to meet my colleagues over at the science library 21:01 wizzyrea they're librarians... FOR SCIENCE. 21:03 Space_Librarian Don't mock 'em. I was one for years. :p 21:03 oleonard Oh that wasn't mocking, I'm sure. 21:04 Space_Librarian I know. 21:04 cait wizzyrea? 21:04 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE! 21:04 cait :) 21:05 Space_Librarian They actually tattle-taped me when I left... *sigh* 21:05 wizzyrea O.o 21:05 wizzyrea hey, I love science librarians. 21:05 Space_Librarian And marked me "property of the science library" 21:05 wizzyrea hehehehe 21:05 cait oh 21:05 cait there is an atomiacupdate 21:05 Space_Librarian fun times 21:06 sekjal http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/2/23/Xkcd-im-going-to-try-science.jpg 21:06 * collum is having flashbacks of dialog searching 21:06 jcamins cait: yeah, but fortunately you don't need to run it prior to indexing. 21:06 cait that's good :) 21:06 wizzyrea yes, exactly 21:07 cait although indexing is fast enough, nice laptop :) 21:07 cait jcamins: how do I run the update? 21:07 oleonard http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_status.pl 21:07 jcamins cait: perl installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_matching_pt1 21:07 wizzyrea perl installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/ lol dangit 21:07 wizzyrea you're too fast 21:07 cait ok done 21:07 wizzyrea :) 21:07 cait thx :) 21:10 cait 64! 21:10 cait that's amazing! 21:10 cait and gbsd has not even started in europe 21:10 wizzyrea :D 21:10 wizzyrea ok, sorry to be dense jcamins -- when you say "make sure you install the following files" -- install from where? 21:11 cait ah 21:11 cait I just found that 21:11 cait copy over 21:11 oleonard Those Kiribati devs are good. 21:11 cait from kohaclone/etc to your koha-dev/etc 21:11 wizzyrea gotcha 21:11 cait for indexing... so I have to reindex 21:11 cait *sigh* 21:12 jcamins cait: sorry. :( 21:12 cait I should have read the instructions :) 21:13 * jcamins uses softlinks for all of the Zebra configuration files. 21:13 jcamins Other than the .cfg files, obviously. 21:15 sekjal okay, off I go. later, #koha! 21:15 cait reindexing now 21:19 oleonard See ya #koha. Leave me just, you know, one or two bugs to sign off on tomorrow. 21:19 wizzyrea hehe bye oleonard 21:19 wizzyrea atz! hi! 21:19 * oleonard waves to atz in passing 21:21 wizzyrea aaand by 21:21 wizzyrea e 21:22 cait hm 21:22 cait what is the diffrence between Main entry ($a only) , Main entry and Heading match? 21:24 jcamins Main entry ($a only) is mostly UNIMARC. 21:24 jcamins It's supposed to be only 1xx$a, I think. 21:24 jcamins Main entry is 1xx$* 21:24 jcamins Headming match is 1xx$*, 4xx$*, and 5xx$*. 21:26 cait I should not have asked 21:26 cait ok 21:26 cait another question 21:26 cait without running any linker 21:27 cait my authority search shows 6 linked records for one of my authorities... 21:27 cait how can that happen? 21:28 drojf1 magic? :) 21:28 cait it sure look slike it 21:28 cait jcamins: magic? 21:28 drojf1 ev'nin' #koha 21:28 cait hi drojf1 ) 21:28 cait :) 21:28 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:28 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -10.1�C (10:24 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling). 21:29 jcamins cait: that's a good question. 21:29 Space_Librarian @wunder wellington, nz 21:29 huginn` Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 21:29 jcamins If you don't have anything in $9, that shouldn't happen. 21:29 cait I tihnk I know what happened 21:29 cait the authimport used our 001 numbers 21:30 cait and the bibliographic data I used had $9 fields... 21:30 mtj morning #koha 21:30 * mtj waves to all 21:30 cait and it's only working for some because the X at the end got cut off in auth_headers 21:30 cait hi mtj :) 21:30 drojf1 @wunder berlin, germany 21:30 huginn` drojf1: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -5.1�C (10:12 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.81 in 1043.2 hPa (Rising). 21:31 jcamins cait: right. 21:31 jcamins That'll do it. 21:31 cait yeah 21:31 cait got only confused because it was only a few entries where it worked 21:31 cait sorry 21:32 drojf1 we never used authorities since we had no real library system. if we will start to use them, will we have to link them by hand after importing? or is there some magic to do that for us? 21:32 * wizzyrea waits for it 21:32 jcamins drojf1: cait is testing the magic for linking. :) 21:32 wizzyrea there it is. 21:33 cait hehe 21:33 drojf1 :) 21:33 jcamins You should test it too. 21:33 cait he is so predictable :P 21:33 wizzyrea hehe 21:33 jcamins See how it works for you. 21:33 * wizzyrea is trying to get authorities out of her production system 21:33 cait oh 21:33 cait is tomorrow blue cat wednesday? 21:33 drojf1 not tonight, had a long day of filemaker boredom. but i will try tomorrow 21:33 drojf1 that is, i will try to try :) 21:34 drojf1 which bug is it? 21:34 jcamins Bug 7284. 21:34 wahanui well, bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen. 21:34 jcamins cait: yup. 21:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements 21:34 cait say hi to chester :) 21:35 jcamins I will. :) 21:36 cait wow 4 new system preferences? 21:36 jcamins Yeah. 21:36 jcamins And actually there's one undocumented feature. 21:36 jcamins I realized that last night. 21:38 * drojf1 is too tired to even read the whole description now :( 21:38 * jcamins will update the bug to reflect it. 21:39 * wizzyrea loves surprises 21:39 cait drojf1: I go one sentence .at a time 21:40 cait ok, I tested the first part 21:40 cait but now I am not even sure what BiblioAddsAuthorities does 21:40 jcamins It sets whether you can edit authority-controlled fields at all. 21:41 drojf1 i will try tomorrow. i have the feeling that i wont be too koha-productive though since i will actually go to the library. there are always people to bother me with non-koha things ;) 21:41 drojf1 cait: maybe you can write me a walktrhough for the walkthrough and i follow in your footsteps ;) 21:42 cait lol 21:42 jcamins cait: I thought about eliminating it, but thought that might be a problem for QA. 21:42 jcamins I mean, that QA-ers wouldn't like it. 21:42 cait sorry, I am stuck in the labyrinth myself 21:42 drojf1 i hope you used bread crumbs 21:42 cait yarn :) 21:42 cait bread crumbs get eaten by the cats 21:43 jcamins cait: but yarn gets played with! 21:43 eythian hi everyone 21:43 cait hi eythian 21:43 wizzyrea holy snaps. 21:43 jcamins eythian! You should join the 7284-signing off party! 21:43 cait jcamins: yeah... so i am LOST! 21:43 wizzyrea I did not know that members/update-child.pl even existed. 21:43 * wizzyrea feels a bit dumb now 21:43 jcamins cait: :( 21:43 jcamins cait: I thought I made it very clear. 21:43 cait wizzyrea: apparently noone knew 21:43 jcamins I guess not? 21:43 cait jcamins: yes, but my yarn got played with... 21:44 drojf1 lol 21:44 * cait thinks it was the blue cat 21:44 cait jcamins: it's only getting late and I had a long day - will try to continue tomorrow 21:44 cait I have set up the database now and cataloging behaves like it should so far :) 21:44 cait no worries 21:46 drojf1 i dont know if we even have a framework for authorities now. or specs for one. i see a whole new world of fun in front of me 21:47 jcamins drojf1: the authorities framework comes by default. 21:47 drojf1 yes but we have to decide what fields we will use 21:47 drojf1 and i hope i am not the person to do that 21:47 eythian jcamins: authorities scare me a little I think :) 21:48 drojf1 have not looked at that much yet 21:48 drojf1 eythian: me too :D 21:49 jcamins eythian: that's how we know you're human. :P 21:50 cait lol 21:50 cait drojf1: if you set an installation up with the sample files, it should work for playing with jcamins patch 21:50 wizzyrea oh - uh, I should do THAT 21:51 wizzyrea rather than do what I'm doing :P 21:51 wizzyrea cait++ for always having the best ideas. 21:51 cait ? 21:51 wizzyrea using the sample data. 21:51 wizzyrea der. 21:51 cait ah 21:51 drojf1 cait: yeah i thought so. but its an issue for our import too and i have not heard much from my colleague about it. so i guess nothing happened in that field for us 21:51 cait I meant the frameworks 21:51 cait you will still need authority records I guess 21:51 wizzyrea hrmph. 21:51 wizzyrea :) 21:51 cait heh 22:00 slef @marc 001 22:00 huginn` slef: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier).  22:01 slef marc21? 22:01 wahanui marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html 22:01 wizzyrea i'm vaguely surprised that there is no reference to marc being evil or needing to die in there. 22:01 drojf1 :D 22:02 eythian wahanui: marc 22:02 wahanui http://marc-must-die.info 22:02 eythian there you go 22:02 wizzyrea keke 22:03 * drojf1 sneaks off to bed 22:03 drojf1 good night #koha, have a nice meeting 22:04 wizzyrea jcamins: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/boingboing/iBag/~3/Iz5bkeGYpZE/reading-lamps-made-from-drille.html 22:04 cait night drojf1 22:05 jcamins That's pretty cool, but I'm not sure how practical it is. 22:05 jcamins I prefer my reading lamps to shine line down from overhead. 22:05 wizzyrea it's not - just a use for very old (not rare) books 22:06 druthb $140-150 for that? dang. I'm in the wrong bizness. 22:07 wizzyrea it's not too late! 22:07 * wizzyrea imagines them made out of old romance novels 22:07 wizzyrea spicy! 22:07 druthb lulz. 22:07 cait lol 22:07 cait wizzyrea++ 22:09 druthb 11 or 12 bucks for the bulb, find the books at goodwill (or make a library book sale VERY happy), plus some wiring, a switch, and a bulb base.... 22:12 lculber Really dumb question about web interfaces used for testing - cloned branch. 22:12 wizzyrea i'm sure it's not dumb, go ahead 22:12 wizzyrea @quote search ask 22:12 huginn` wizzyrea: 7 found: #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one...", #126: "<rangi> The beauty of Koha is we develop in the...", #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.......", #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!", #155: "libsysguy: I always hate touching somebody...", #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking...", and #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to..." 22:14 lculber wizzyrea: don't underestimate my stupidity. I cloned master, checked out and set up and set up a test branch to use, and that's where my data is. 22:14 wizzyrea @quote get 145 22:14 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) 22:14 wizzyrea seems sand :) 22:14 wizzyrea sane* even. 22:14 cait good night all 22:14 wizzyrea gnite cait 22:14 druthb wizzyrea++ #gots her reasons, m'kay? 22:15 lculber Okay, well now when I try to get to it using the ip address I can't see the data. I can see it in the database, but not in the browser 22:15 wizzyrea but you get the web interface? 22:15 cait will not be around for the meeting :( 22:15 cait 3am... *sigh* 22:15 lculber Yes, but it is empty. 22:16 wizzyrea meaning that you can click around, but there's nothing in there to look at? 22:16 wizzyrea or that the page is entirely blank 22:16 wizzyrea sorry to be dense :) 22:16 lculber I can click around but it doesn't even look like the right version. It looks like 3.6, when it should be master - that's what I cloned 22:17 wizzyrea well 3.6 and master would look very similar. 22:17 wizzyrea but, the point is 22:17 lculber In about it says. 3.6. 0. 0 22:17 wizzyrea ah, are you running more than one instance on this test machine? 22:17 magnus_afk 64 bugs that need signoff - more awesomeness! i'll do my best to tackle bug 6440 tomorrow, if noone beats me to it 22:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets 22:18 wizzyrea that one is all yours :) 22:18 magnus_afk wizzyrea: yay ;-) 22:18 lculber wizzyrea, yes, afraid there is another instance - 3.6.2 and it's beautiful. 22:18 magnus_afk g'night #koha, and happy hunting! 22:19 lculber I gave the other instance a name of koha_test and tried that, - no go, and so tried the ip. Same thing. I don't know what else to try. 22:19 jcamins lculber: probably you need to run updatedatabase. 22:20 jcamins lculber: or, how did you set up multiple instances? 22:20 wizzyrea I don't think that would keep her from seeing things like patrons, for example 22:20 jcamins wizzyrea: ah, hm. 22:20 * jcamins didn't read all the way back. 22:20 wizzyrea I suspect that there is some confusion about which koha-conf.xml it's looking at 22:20 lculber I set up the multiple instances using the instructions on the wiki 22:20 wizzyrea oh, link? 22:20 wahanui rumour has it link is a bit confusing 22:20 wizzyrea forget link 22:20 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot link 22:20 slef bleah anyone want a cataloguing question? 22:21 jcamins slef: no, what is it? 22:21 wizzyrea hahaha 22:21 Space_Librarian depends... 22:22 slef when cataloging a book that was donated, can the donor's name go in the marc21 anywhere? 22:22 jcamins slef: 561. 22:22 jcamins Or... 22:22 jcamins 541. 22:22 jcamins Probably 541. 22:22 wizzyrea nm I found it, lculber. 22:23 wizzyrea ok so 22:23 slef jcamins: 542 looks good. ta. 22:23 slef jcamins++ 22:23 jcamins 541. 22:23 jcamins 542 is for copyright. 22:24 slef 1 22:24 slef sorry 22:24 slef kindle keyb a bit fiddly 22:24 wizzyrea ..... kindle? 22:24 * wizzyrea faints 22:24 slef yeah 22:24 slef it runs debian 22:24 wizzyrea hehehehe 22:24 wizzyrea nice one 22:24 slef low power 22:25 slef free 3g 22:25 wizzyrea actually that's quite awesome. 22:25 wizzyrea easy to read :) 22:25 schuster Why in the MARC and not just the item record itself? 22:25 slef although 3g only in the browser 22:26 schuster That way when the Library "weeds" the donated copy and another copy comes in you don't think that was the donated copy. and your MARC record is still "clean" 22:26 slef so I just regret the amaxonism and foxconn 22:26 slef schuster: very good point 22:26 schuster OPAC note is a good spot for the item - Donated by- and still searchable by Koha. 22:26 schuster I have moments... 22:26 slef schuster: best ask them why they put them in the bibs on the current cat 22:27 wizzyrea slef - it's getting difficult to buy ethically produced electronics. :( 22:27 slef so that'll take a week... 22:27 wizzyrea they're like the nike shoes of the current generation 22:27 schuster probably because that was the only place they could put it to be indexed. - slef 22:27 slef wizzyrea: getting??? 22:27 wizzyrea well i'm not sure you actually *can* buy ethically produced electronics. 22:28 jcamins lculber: where is your master install located? 22:28 jcamins I mean, koha-dev, koha-dev2... ? 22:28 wizzyrea i was *trying* (poorly) to be optimistics 22:28 wizzyrea :P 22:28 slef wizzyrea: we've always had this prob. Ever sinceI've looked into it 22:28 schuster ok done for now! I'm working on my batch picture upload command line and borrower batch command line utilities for cron jobs that we have running 22:29 wizzyrea slef: :((( 22:29 slef wizzyrea: it's the only bit of the coop codewe completely fail on and always have 22:30 wizzyrea don't even know where to begin on that problem. 22:30 slef and niw lots of stuff has conflict minerals in 22:30 slef now 22:30 slef me either 22:30 lculber jcamins: master was downloaded to /home/lculber/kohaclone but it was installed to the regular koha paths like /user/share/koha_test 22:31 lculber the instance is called koha_test 22:31 slef I've a bamboo keyboard and some uk-made stuff 22:31 slef but it's minor 22:31 wizzyrea *nod* 22:31 slef @marc 952 22:31 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29 22:31 huginn` slef: unknown tag 952 22:35 slef biab 22:37 jcamins lculber: oh, in that case you need to adjust the export... commands to match /usr/share/koha_test/* 22:38 jcamins Probably you need to adjust your Apache config to point to /usr/share/koha_test too. 22:38 wizzyrea sounded to me like she had apache sorted :) 22:41 lculber We got it. It was an apache configuration issue. And then the database did need to be updated. Thanks for the help wizzyrea and jcamins. I was going nuts. 22:43 lculber Now about says 3.07.00.011 22:43 wizzyrea squee! 22:43 jcamins Hooray! 22:44 lculber Yes! My data is all there and I can start testing. Sorry it's taken me so long. Thanks for your patience and help. 22:46 lculber jcamins: We have lots of authorities and the only ones that are linked are the ones since we moved to Koha in May. How would you like us to start? 22:47 lculber Ones added I mean. 22:47 lculber Most of them are older from old system 22:51 jcamins lculber: there's a complete test plan on the ticket, but you might also just try turning LinkerRelink and LinkerKeepStale on and turning AutoCreateAuthorities off. 22:51 jcamins See if that gets the links set up the way you want. 22:51 jcamins Or, maybe even better: 22:52 jcamins Turn LinkerKeepStale off, and set LinkerOptions to "broader_headings" 22:52 jcamins (leaving LinkerRelink on and AutoCreateAuthorities off) 22:53 jcamins Then run link_bibs_to_authorities.pl -l -v > ~/linker.log 22:54 jcamins Do you have a lot of duplicate authorities? 22:56 lculber This is exciting. Will link_bibs_to_authorities.pl work now? I saw that was one of the tests. Should I hold off on it? 22:56 jcamins It should. 22:57 lculber We shouldn't have any duplicate auhtorities as far as I know - but that doesn't mean we don't 22:57 jcamins The best thing to do for testing would probably be to work through the test plan on the bug, then try the combination of settings I just gave you and see if that links everything you feel should be linked. 22:57 jcamins Hm. 22:57 jcamins You might want to also use the FirstMatch LinkerModule. 22:58 jcamins (for the final test) 22:59 jcamins The test plan will enable you to confidently sign off on the bug for Koha. 23:00 jcamins The configuration I suggested will hopefully meet MDAH's needs long-term. :) 23:00 lculber Fantastic. I'm going to get the cataloger who specializes in authority work to work with me. She will be excited and know what to watch for. We are SO excited!! 23:01 lculber jcamins++ 23:01 jcamins :) 23:01 * jcamins is very excited to have this in Koha, too. 23:01 lculber Off for testing. thanks! 23:02 jcamins You're welcome. 23:02 jcamins Post any comments you have on the bug. :) 23:32 jcamins Good night, #koha.