Time  Nick            Message
00:39 rangi           sup from melbourne
00:40 jcamins         Hello!
00:40 jcamins         How's the conference going?
00:41 rangi           so far so good
01:21 jcamins         Ooh! It's Reduced Shakespeare Company time!
01:30 jcamins         Myshkin doesn't know what to make of Shakespeare, apparently.
03:22 Space_Librarian eythian ++ for calming my panicked librarians.
03:22 eythian         cake'll do that :)
03:22 jcamins         Mmm.
03:22 jcamins         Cake!
03:22 * jcamins       is baking cookies.
03:22 Space_Librarian cake was good.
03:32 Oak             kia ora #koha
03:33 jcamins         The last batch of cookies is in the oven.
03:37 Amit_Gupta      heya bag
03:37 bag             hey Amit_Gupta
03:54 jcamins         Good night, #koha.
04:02 Space_Librarian toodle pip all. see you on the flip side.
04:03 eythian         bye
05:11 cait            good morning #koha
05:13 eythian         hi cait
05:13 cait            hi eythian :)
05:15 Amit_Gupta      heya cait, eythian
05:15 cait            hi Amit_Gupta
05:15 eythian         hello
07:21 alex_a          morning all
07:22 cait            morning alex_a :)
07:24 cait            morning mbalmer
07:24 mbalmer         hello all!
07:32 magnuse         kia ora #koha
07:33 cait            morning magnuse
07:33 cait            :)
07:33 cait            accounting--
07:34 magnuse         guten morgen cait
07:34 magnuse         cait: distance studies?
07:35 cait            yeah
07:38 magnuse         you have my deepest sympathy :-)
07:38 magnuse         @wunder boo
07:38 huginn`         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0�C (8:20 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady).
07:38 magnuse         yay!
07:38 magnuse         @wunder kautokeino
07:38 huginn`         magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -39.0�C (7:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -42.0�C. Pressure: 30.71 in 1040 hPa (Rising).
07:39 magnuse         @wunder karasjok
07:39 huginn`         magnuse: The current temperature in Banak, Norway is -23.0�C (7:50 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -25.0�C. Windchill: -28.0�C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady).
07:39 cait            magnuse: thank you :)
07:39 cait            morning reiveune :)
07:39 cait            @wunder Konstanz
07:39 huginn`         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.2�C (8:34 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa (Steady).
07:39 cait            brrrr
07:39 reiveune        hello cait, magnuse, everybody
07:39 magnuse         ooh, 10 degrees colder than here!
07:39 cait            ... beaming to work would be a nice feature today
07:39 magnuse         bonjour reiveune
07:39 magnuse         cait: your employer doesn't offer that service?
07:43 cait            ok, brb
07:43 cait            magnuse: not yet :)
07:51 Oak             magnuse
07:51 Oak             uh ho, missed cait
07:54 magnuse         Oak
07:54 magnuse         she'll be back :-)
07:58 Oak             :)
08:12 paul_p          good morning #koha
08:12 gaetan_B        hello
08:12 wahanui         what's up, gaetan_B
08:13 gaetan_B        :)
08:13 magnuse         bonjour france
08:13 asaurat         hi
08:23 magnuse         woohoo, kf made it!
08:23 kf              it's snowing
08:23 kf              I looked like a snowman :)
08:23 kf              hm snowwoman
08:23 kf              @wunder Konstanz
08:24 huginn`         kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -12.0�C (9:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Falling).
08:24 magnuse         heh
08:25 kf              paul_p++ for being picky about inconsistencies :)
08:25 paul_p          @wunder Marseille, France
08:25 huginn`         paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -6.0�C (9:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
08:25 paul_p          thx kf
08:25 kf              paul_p: I always wondered about the right capitalization too
08:25 kf              most templates are a mix
08:25 kf              brrr cold in marseille!
08:26 kf              bonjour sophie_m
08:26 paul_p          yep, very very very cold.
08:26 paul_p          I don't remember having a so low temp here
08:26 magnuse         oh wow -6!
08:26 kf              hm no, it's very very very cold here - you only get 2 very ;)
08:26 magnuse         paul_p: any snow?
08:27 paul_p          magnuse 5mm last we
08:27 paul_p          in our home.
08:27 paul_p          (center of Marseille)
08:27 paul_p          sorroundings got some cm
08:27 * paul_p        start monthly BibLibre board meeting
08:30 francharb       good morning
08:31 kf              morning francharb
08:42 mbalmer         here it's so cold that the water pipes in my house froze the second time.
08:43 kf              ouch :(
08:43 kf              my favourite cafe was closed too yesterday - frozen pipes
08:50 asaurat         brr... -12 in Konstanz :D
08:51 asaurat         hi, snowoman :D
08:51 kf              heh
08:51 kf              morning asaurat
08:51 * kf            wonders if a snowwoman has super powers
08:52 Oak             Good Morning kf :)
08:53 asaurat         has someone here already used the sortmax parameter ? (found in zebra-biblios.cfg)
09:07 kf              asaurat: no idea
09:17 grharry         Need some hints-help ... a remote z39.50 server Is replying my queries with ISO88597 charset .... how should I configure it ... yaz-client allows me to fiddle the charsets .. how about koha ??
09:18 drojf           good day #koha
09:18 magnuse         grharry: when you add/edit a z39.50 server there is a setting for encoding - try different settings for that
09:19 magnuse         hiya drojf
09:20 grharry         magnuse: I am sure I did but with no success ... !! :-(
09:20 drojf           hi magnuse
09:20 magnuse         grharry: i never got around around to diggin any deeper than that...
09:21 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
09:21 huginn`         drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -11.7�C (10:12 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: 30.75 in 1041.2 hPa (Steady).
09:21 kf              @wunder Konstanz
09:21 huginn`         kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -12.0�C (10:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Falling).
09:21 kf              guten morgen drojf
09:21 kf              I win again!
09:21 drojf           moin kf
09:21 drojf           heh
09:21 kf              glad you survived your 'walk'
09:22 drojf           me too
09:22 magnuse         next gbsd?
09:22 wahanui         next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-02-08_Global_bug_squashing_day
09:22 drojf           was quite cold in the end
09:22 kf              oh yes
09:22 kf              tomorrow is gbsd
09:22 magnuse         it starts in 40 minutes, kiribati time!
09:22 kf              yay!
09:23 * drojf         should have another look at git then perhaps
09:23 grharry         in fact the only options I am getting in the encoding field of the server are ( UTF-8, MARC-8, euc-kr , and a couple of ISO's ) .... need to access the code ...
09:23 kf              we can help you :)
09:23 drojf           :)
09:25 asaurat         drojf, you're in Berlin?
09:25 drojf           yes
09:26 asaurat         I lived there for a while =) was nice, had two very snowy winters
09:26 asaurat         but this one seems to be even worse :D
09:27 drojf           yeah berlin is getting better at winter-ing. i remember mostly brownish mud instead of snow, but the last winters were quite harsh. once i have adjusted i like it ;)
09:28 drojf           where did you live in berlin?
09:28 asaurat         for 6 months in Schöneberg, then 1 year in Wedding, near Pankstr.
09:31 drojf           nice, i like wedding. never really had anything to do in schöneberg. berlin is big enough to actually not know all areas :D
09:33 asaurat         yep, Berlin is huuuge
09:34 asaurat         you can find little wonders in surprising places =)
09:34 drojf           true :)
09:35 magnuse         ooh, 2 months an2 weeks until
09:35 magnuse         gah
09:35 magnuse         ooh, 2 months, 2 weeks, 1 day until 2012-04-22
09:35 kf              ?
09:35 kf              oh
09:35 kf              yes
09:36 kf              time moves fast
09:36 magnuse         22nd april
09:36 kf              scary
09:36 magnuse         yeah...
09:36 kf              next release
09:36 magnuse         yup
09:36 drojf           oh
09:36 kf              so many thigns still waiting for testing... GBSD people!
09:36 drojf           so many things waiting to be generalized and put in koha by me :/
09:36 drojf           well not that many actually
09:40 drojf           irc meeting at 2 utc? brr.
09:42 kf              yeah
09:42 kf              I will be asleep
09:43 kf              it's a really really bad time
09:43 drojf           either that or asleep the whole following day. i think my boss won't agree
09:44 kf              I doubt a lot of europeans will be around
09:44 kf              http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_Meeting,_8_February_2012
09:44 kf              you can put your apologies there :)
09:44 drojf           ah :)
09:44 drojf           will do that. but now i have to get prepared for non-koha work :(
09:46 kf              magnuse++
09:47 magnuse         yay
09:52 kf              everytime I write sql using biblioitems, I type bilboitems
09:54 asaurat         lolll
09:54 drojf           make bilboitems a shortcut for biblioitems ;)
09:54 magnuse         heh
09:55 asaurat         SELECT * FROM bilboitems; -> ring, mithril chainmail
09:59 kf              lol
10:01 drojf           [off] a "Technological Institute" using a five year old version of koha sounds not very promising
10:03 magnuse         it's on: http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/gbsd/gbsd9/hourlystatus-gbsd9.txt
10:04 kf              yay :)
10:04 kf              go kiribati go :)
10:21 drojf           off to work, bye #koha
10:21 asaurat         tschüss!
10:54 sheikh303       hi there,need help about koha OPAC view!
10:55 magnuse         ask away sheikh303, someone might be able to help you
10:56 sheikh303       i just installed koha.. on my localhost. i want redirect the default login landing page to catalog page/opac view
10:59 magnuse         so that when a user logs in he lands on the front page, not on "my summary"?
11:00 sheikh303       no its not the case.. actually when i hit this returns only a login page
11:01 magnuse         :8080 is usually the internal part of koha
11:01 sheikh303       i want to show the catalog page which is by default.
11:01 sheikh303       yes
11:02 gaetan_B        hello again
11:02 gaetan_B        has anyone ever installed koha on a centos machine ?
11:03 gaetan_B        is it feasible and if yes is it worth the trouble ?
11:03 sheikh303       @gaetan_B: i just tried few days ago and spent 2 days with several resources. but no luck :(
11:03 huginn`         sheikh303: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
11:03 paul_p_mtg      gaetan_B someone started a wiki page, but it's not finished I think : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Centos_6.2_i386
11:04 gaetan_B        sheikh303: thanks, keep me informed !
11:09 Amit_Gupta      heya gatetan_B
11:12 Culiforge       opinion: what's my best option for installing koha on fedora 14?
11:30 gaetan_B        matts: pour le vendangeur demain, ce sera possible de suivre à distance éventuellement ?
11:31 gaetan_B        aah sorry wrong channel again ;)
11:44 sheikh303       again koha problem... i am getting a error message on catalog page when not logged out.. according to the opac-main.tt the error message is showing instead of login form
11:44 sheikh303       any suggestion?
12:04 SHEIKH303       need help badly!!
12:28 tcohen          mornin #koha
13:23 kf              @wunder Konstanz
13:23 huginn`         kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -9.0�C (2:00 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Falling).
13:25 oleonard        Hi bug-squashers
13:26 jcamins_away    Hm, maybe I'll sign off on some bugs this morning.
13:26 magnus_afk      hiya oleonard
13:26 magnus_afk      jcamins_away: that would be awesome!
13:26 kf              hi jcamins_away and oleonard :)
13:27 jcamins_away    Not bug 7339, though.
13:27 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error
13:27 jcamins_away    I don't have IE9.
13:27 jcamins_away    Just IE8.
13:27 * oleonard      neither
13:27 jcamins_away    Heh.
13:27 * magnuse       neither
13:27 jcamins         I just spotted Bug 7501 and was very excited about it.
13:27 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7501 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , OPAC authority browser should mark alternate rows as highlighted
13:28 jcamins         It's something that I definitely want.
13:28 jcamins         I wrote it.
13:28 jcamins         Oops.
13:28 oleonard        People plugging their pet patch for potential peer perusal?
13:28 kf              heh
13:28 kf              I will try to do some things tonight
13:28 kf              in spirit of gbsd in kiribati :)
13:29 jcamins         oleonard: if we're doing that, don't forget about bug 7284!
13:29 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
13:30 kf              ooh
13:30 * magnuse       turns on the twitter feeds for gbsd
13:30 * oleonard      isn't even smart enough to read the bug report for that
13:30 kf              jcamins: remind me to pack some data
13:30 kf              later today
13:30 kf              oleonard: I am sure that's not true :)
13:34 * jcamins       remembers why he hasn't been signing off on things.
13:34 jcamins         Almost everything is about circ or acquisitions.
13:34 jcamins         Or things that I generally don't understand.
13:39 jcamins         There's one.
13:40 oleonard        That's the way I feel about the authorities bugs jcamins
13:40 jcamins         oleonard: but there's just one!
13:40 jcamins         (that needs sign off)
13:41 oleonard        don't confuse me with your big numbers
13:43 kf              jcamins: I think some are about cataloging
13:43 kf              bug 6496
13:43 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6496 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client
13:44 kf              bug 6851 - that has practically your (or my...) name on it
13:44 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6851 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , A utility that will search out analytics records and set the MARC header appropriately.
13:44 kf              bug 6199
13:44 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items
13:45 kf              jcamins: I can those bugs are smiling at you ;)
13:45 kf              I can see...
13:49 kf              now... I scared you all away?
13:49 jcamins         kf: no, I'm testing bug 7241.
13:49 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number
13:49 jcamins         :P
13:49 jcamins         It works partly.
13:50 kf              but that's circulation! :)
13:51 jcamins         That much I can handle.
13:51 jcamins         It's the more circulate-y stuff that's a problem.
13:51 oleonard        wibbly-wobbly circulatey stuff.
13:52 jcamins         Exactly.
13:52 tcohen          oh, i just noticed its already 8 in some places
13:52 jcamins         tcohen: it's 8:51am here.
13:52 * jcamins       realizes you meant the date.
13:52 * jcamins       drinks more tea.
13:52 * tcohen        drinks mate
13:54 jcamins         Whoops.
13:54 jcamins         I just crashed my VM.
13:55 jcamins         VT0 still works.
13:55 jcamins         Kinda.
13:55 * oleonard      keeps forgetting to test a couple of Chrome bugs when he's at home on his Mac...
13:55 kyle            hello all.
13:55 oleonard        Hi kyle
13:55 kf              hi kyle
13:55 jcamins         Yay! I managed to get my VM to shut down.
13:56 jcamins         Good morning kyle.
13:56 kyle            I've been testing the patch for Bug 7231. It works great, as long as there is no dollar sign in 020$c. Is it acceptable for Koha to choke when currency symbols are used in price fields?
13:56 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7231 major, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , ordering from staged file not using price
13:58 jcamins         kyle: not in my opinion.
13:58 jcamins         kyle: but ask kf, because I don't actually know anything about acquisitions.
13:59 kf              kyle: I would note that on the bug, if the standard says you can do that, it should not choke
13:59 oleonard        What do you mean by "choke?" It should have error-handling at least.
13:59 kyle            jcamins: I'll do that. Thanks.
13:59 kf              I mean the marc21 standard
13:59 kyle            oleonard: it doesn't really choke, it just doesn't pull the price over. You get an empty field instead of the price.
13:59 kf              we probably need it to search for numbers, and decimal , and decimal .
14:00 kyle            I suppose in a way it is a graceful failure, because you can really put anything you want in there, it's not limited to a single dollar value anyway.
14:01 kf              kyle: about 345 - that looks weird, perhaps unimarc?
14:01 kf              but it should check the syspref if that is the case
14:01 jcamins         kf: the currency symbol is usually included in 020.
14:01 jcamins         kf: I think that's RDA.
14:01 kyle            Not unimarc either, I don't know why it's in there. Paul wrote the code.
14:01 jcamins         No, maybe not.
14:01 kf              it is, but not related to price
14:01 jcamins         365 is price.
14:01 kf              kyle: wonder why there is no UNIMARC/MARC21 thing
14:01 kf              same field?
14:02 kf              http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd345.html
14:02 kyle            In the sub it uses 020 for marc21, and 010 for unimarc.
14:02 kf              I think that is failed qa
14:02 kf              oleonard: ok with me reopening 2780?
14:02 kyle            but that is not directly related to the patch in question.
14:02 kf              bug 2780
14:02 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, capitalizing strings
14:02 oleonard        Yes
14:03 * oleonard      didn't even know it was closed
14:03 kf              I didn't even know it existed :)
14:03 kf              I wondered about the capitalization for some time
14:03 kf              it's very mixed up right now
14:03 * oleonard      had it filed in the corner of his brain for nagging open bugs he didn't want to deal with
14:04 kf              heh
14:04 kf              example: advanced search
14:04 kf              we have
14:04 kf              [More options]          [New Search]
14:04 kf              Publication Date Range:
14:04 kf              Location and availability
14:04 kf              Publisher Location
14:04 oleonard        I agree 100%, and am personally to blame for much of it.
14:05 kf              I don't want to blame anyone - I only want a rule to follow!
14:05 kf              so next time I am working on those templates... I know which is the right form! :)
14:05 kf              Advanced Search   | Browse by author or subject   | Tag Cloud
14:06 kf              oleonard: does the rule always work? that the first word should be capitalized?
14:06 kf              and names and languages, countries (of course)
14:06 oleonard        I think so. If we find what we think is an exception we can discuss.
14:08 kf              Perhaps starting in the opac would not be a bad idea
14:08 kf              making it more consistent carefullly
14:11 jcamins         safari--
14:11 oleonard        kf: Now I notice all the inconsistencies in Bugzilla's interface ;)
14:11 kf              heh
14:14 oleonard        What's Safari doing jcamins, besides being awkward to use and generally annoying?
14:15 jcamins         oleonard: it doesn't like :8080
14:15 jcamins         And rather than simply complaining or something, it pretends it's busy.
14:16 jcamins         Good morning lculber!
14:17 lculber         jcamins:  you said to call if I needed help. HELP!!  Do I install indexing mode for authorities as dom?
14:17 jcamins         Yup.
14:17 jcamins         If you're doing a new installation, you should apply the patch for bug 7284 first, then do the installation.
14:17 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
14:17 jcamins         That'll save you a reindexing step later. ;)
14:18 lculber         thanks.  I thought I saw the patch, but in the git but maybe not.  I'll make clean start over.
14:19 jcamins         If you're part-way through the installation process, it's pretty easy to copy the new DOM config over manually and reindex.
14:20 lculber         I need the easiest way possible. Which would you recommend.
14:20 jcamins         Have you put any data in the database yet?
14:20 lculber         No. I'm just starting the install now
14:20 jcamins         In that case, the easiest way is to apply the patch, then rerun the installation.
14:21 lculber         Got it. Thanks.  I'll come back if I need more help.  Thanks.
14:21 jcamins         You're welcome.
14:21 jcamins         Good luck. :)
14:35 oleonard        I found a computer here with IE9 if someone could set up a web-accessible demo with the patch applied
14:35 oleonard        Bug 7339 I mean.
14:35 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error
14:35 oleonard        Although it looks like it's still not working in IE7 or IE8, according to the report?
14:39 paul_p_mtg      oleonard if you want to setup an accessible demo => try test5 sandbox !!!
14:43 oleonard        Okay paul_p_mtg, I will try it
14:43 paul_p_mtg      oleonard thx, and report the result here or by mail !
14:45 kf              paul_p_mtg: still meeting?
14:45 wahanui         meeting is, like, in ~30 minutes
14:46 kf              forget meeting
14:46 wahanui         kf: I forgot meeting
14:51 jcamins         sekjal: is the use of MD5 for bug 6874 a sufficiently serious issue that I shouldn't bother testing and should just mark it failed qa?
14:51 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC
14:51 * jcamins       doesn't really understand what the issue with md5 is. All hashes have a theoretical risk of collision.
14:51 kf              jcamins++ busy!
14:51 jcamins         :)
14:51 kf              only not for the bugs I suggested :P
14:52 paul_p_mtg      kf yep, still meeting (for 10-20 more minuts)
14:52 sekjal          jcamins:  will need to read up on it
14:53 jcamins         kf: most of those I wasn't testing because I didn't really know how to respond.
14:54 jcamins         And I don't want to fail things because I envision something different.
14:54 kf              hm
14:54 jcamins         sekjal: I'll test it and sign off on the functionality.
14:55 paul_p_mtg      jcamins I don't think it's a serious enough issue. So I agree with you
14:55 jcamins         Okay, better run to catch the bus.
14:55 jcamins         Back in a few.
14:55 jcamins         paul_p_mtg: great.
14:55 jcamins         It's a pretty cool feature, now that it's DB-based.
15:03 sekjal          agreed that any hash will have a chance of conflict; it's a limited (though vast) space, and it's very hashy nature means that you cannot uniquely determine a value based on it's hash alone
15:03 sekjal          SHA1 would give us a larger space, but not any solution to the fundamental problem
15:04 sekjal          I think 2^128 possible values is probably enough for any library
15:04 * wizzyrea      waves
15:05 kf              hi wizzyrea :)
15:07 sekjal          hi, wizzyrea.  hi, kf
15:08 wizzyrea        heya sekjal :)
15:09 kf              hi sekjal :)
15:09 kf              how is the new job?
15:19 sekjal          kf:  pretty good
15:19 sekjal          working on web accessibility and mobile design a lot lately
15:19 oleonard        Sounds like fun
15:20 kf              :)
15:22 sekjal          oleonard:  it is
15:23 sekjal          really want to do a mobile staff client for Koha
15:23 sekjal          though I'd probably need to compile it for various platforms, instead of run it as a web app
15:25 oleonard        Why?
15:26 paul_p          meeting ended
15:26 * paul_p        try to understand why test5 reaches a webinstaller page... (oleonard, it was probably you)
15:26 oleonard        Yes, I was just about to ask
15:28 * paul_p        has forgotten to automatically run updatedatabase ! how could I forget that !!!
15:28 paul_p          so the sample database has a lower number as Koha.
15:28 paul_p          I was sure to have written the code to fix this...
15:28 paul_p          s/fix/deal with/
15:29 paul_p          oleonard which database did you choose ?
15:29 paul_p          MARC21 ? or "no change" ?
15:29 oleonard        "no change"
15:29 paul_p          OK, that's it. If you choose "no change", then the DB is not updated !
15:29 paul_p          at all
15:30 paul_p          so, last night a commit has updated the code, but not the database
15:30 * paul_p        fixes that
15:31 paul_p          oleonard I just retried, you should get another mail, we will see if it work better
15:31 oleonard        Thanks
15:33 oleonard        paul_p++
15:33 paul_p          OK, problem fixed it seems
15:34 sekjal          oleonard:  I want access to the mobile device's camera for barcode scanning, and that's really tough to do reliably through the browser
15:34 oleonard        sekjal: Very true.
15:34 wahanui         I know. That's why I said it.
15:35 sekjal          oleonard:  I'm envisioning Inventory and Rebarcoding as two of the major mobile functions
15:37 jcamins_away    Hm. bug 6874 fails qa. :(
15:37 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC
15:38 magnus_afk      oy! http://www.libcatcode.org/
15:40 oleonard        90 seconds with IE9 and I want to punch it in the face.
15:43 wizzyrea        hm, like stack overflow for catalogers?
15:45 gaetan_B        anyone knows what the default settings are when configuring Koha as a z39.50 target?
15:46 gaetan_B        i mean for port, login/password, database... and wether this is something that can be edited ?
15:46 jcamins_away    It's configurable in koha_conf.xml.
15:46 gaetan_B        *whether
15:46 jcamins_away    Look for "publicserver".
15:47 gaetan_B        hmmm thanks jcamins_away ;)
15:52 jcamins_away    kf: signed off on bug 6496.
15:52 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6496 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client
15:52 jcamins_away    I thought it was a different bug.
15:54 jcamins_away    And you wanted me to sign off on bug 6199...
15:54 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items
15:54 jcamins_away    Hm. Heading into a tunnel.
15:54 kf              oh, on a train?
15:55 jcamins_away    Bus.
15:55 kf              jcamins++ anyway
15:55 jcamins_away    I'll be back from uptown.
15:55 kf              signing off on a bus
15:55 kf              is quite impressive
15:55 jcamins_away    :)
15:59 wizzyrea        oleonard - i'm looking at 5280 - when I try to add a patron I get Template process failed: file error - parse error - /home/liz/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/memberentrygen.tt line 1480: unexpected end of input at /home/liz/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 126.
16:00 oleonard        :(
16:00 wizzyrea        :( indeed
16:00 * kf            offers cookies
16:00 * kf            can't stand the sad smileys
16:00 wizzyrea        :)
16:00 * wizzyrea      turns the frown upside down
16:03 * oleonard      thinks the GBSD tweet bot might not be working correctly with new Bugzilla statuses?
16:03 wizzyrea        ooo probably a good pt
16:04 * magnus_afk    fears oleonard is right
16:04 magnus_afk      but not have time to fix it in the near future
16:04 magnus_afk      *might not
16:07 paul_p          bug 5280
16:07 wahanui         bug 5280 is, like, cool, finishing testing it for sign off
16:07 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5280 normal, P4, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Fix password field in members.pl so that the password is masked as it is entered
16:08 paul_p          iirc I had the same problem, some time ago, was it with this bug ? not sure.
16:08 paul_p          it's usually a missing [% END %] in the template
16:09 wizzyrea        ^^ let me see if I can find where it's missing. oleonard may beat me though.
16:09 wizzyrea        er
16:09 wizzyrea        beat me to it, that is
16:09 wizzyrea        I hope he doesn't beat me.
16:09 oleonard        If you want to wizzyrea. You can also fail it if you need to.
16:09 oleonard        Oh I see you did :)
16:10 wizzyrea        but I may still try to find the problem ^.^
16:10 * wizzyrea      runs in circles "I'M HELPING!"
16:10 * wizzyrea      also runs in circles shouting "Test plans! Test plans!"
16:11 oleonard        I wonder, in light of Bug 7339, whether we need to re-think how we handle contextual help
16:11 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error
16:12 wizzyrea        are people actually using the ability to edit that help?
16:12 kf              it gets overwritten with update
16:13 wizzyrea        then no, probably not.
16:13 kf              and the directories have the wrong permissions when installing
16:13 kf              in my experience
16:13 wizzyrea        same
16:13 kf              so you have to change the permissions... and save them from being overwritten
16:13 wizzyrea        which means that if we want to keep them
16:13 wizzyrea        they probably need to move to somewhere like /etc/
16:13 oleonard        Sounds like a pretty sucky feature :P
16:13 kf              the idea is good...
16:13 wizzyrea        yea, the idea *is* good
16:14 kf              perhaps the way to do it is wrong
16:14 wizzyrea        but I think the help should probably be kept in the db?
16:14 kf              and it would be like a small cms
16:14 kf              saved in the database
16:14 kf              and you could add custom sections.. that would be save when updating
16:14 wizzyrea        we already have that kind of functionality with "news"
16:14 kf              yep
16:14 kf              I was exactly thinking about news :)
16:14 wizzyrea        great minds :)
16:14 kf              the problem witht hat is... that database stuff is not translatable
16:14 kf              *sigh*
16:14 wizzyrea        well
16:14 wizzyrea        the sample strings would be translatable?
16:15 kf              translating in sql is very hard
16:15 kf              and it's a lot of text
16:15 wizzyrea        ah yea ok
16:15 wizzyrea        so
16:15 kf              a way to parse them into a separate po file.. that would be kinda cool
16:15 wizzyrea        well how could we do it so that it would be easier to translate, but still ... ^^ this
16:15 kf              I think magnuse was fighting translating the help :)
16:15 kf              you could save it for last, starting with the interface
16:16 kf              with separate files
16:17 wizzyrea        what about
16:17 wizzyrea        if in the translation script
16:17 wizzyrea        when you install a language
16:17 wizzyrea        it dumps out the help from the db into a .po file
16:18 wizzyrea        then you "install" the new help
16:18 wizzyrea        when you're done
16:18 kf              hm
16:18 kf              I am not sure this wil work
16:18 kf              you will still want all versions
16:18 wizzyrea        keep in mind, I've got no idea how it actually works.
16:18 kf              installing a language should use the po file to generate sql to write that into your database
16:18 kf              ah
16:18 kf              but
16:18 kf              perhaps we could just keep the text files
16:19 kf              as is
16:19 kf              and add a text block you can edit to them
16:19 kf              on top
16:19 kf              might be easier
16:19 kf              so you can make additions...
16:19 wizzyrea        or, instead of
16:19 wizzyrea        writing to the files
16:19 wizzyrea        keep the extra stuff in the db
16:19 wizzyrea        and display it along with the stuff that gets updated
16:20 wizzyrea        so your changes are always preserved
16:20 wizzyrea        but the help could change around it
16:20 wizzyrea        does that make sense?
16:21 wizzyrea        we may be saying the same thing
16:34 wizzyrea        sekjal - question about 7144
16:34 wizzyrea        i'm having trouble getting the hold policy rules to save now
16:34 wizzyrea        oh... wait
16:34 wizzyrea        I bet I know
16:34 wizzyrea        nm :)
16:35 sekjal          :)
16:35 wizzyrea        reading++
16:35 wizzyrea        :)
16:38 jcamins         wizzyrea: speaking of test plans, there's one for bug 7284!
16:38 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
16:39 wizzyrea        woot!
16:39 * jcamins       runs around in circles shouting "Authority matching! Authority matching!"
16:39 wizzyrea        :D
16:40 wizzyrea        sekjal: one more question
16:40 kf              wizzyrea: yep, we are saying the same :)
16:40 kf              sorry
16:40 kf              covered in tickets here...
16:41 wizzyrea        do you know if the new floating rules fall victim to the same issue that the other hold policy rules do, in that they don't fall back correctly (i.e. every library must have them defined for an item type for it to work across all branches/patron categories/item types)
16:41 wizzyrea        I'm going to assume that problem still exists.
16:41 kf              no idea
16:42 wizzyrea        that was for sekjal :)
16:42 sekjal          wizzyrea:  I believe that problem is resolved
16:42 wizzyrea        with this patch or in general
16:42 sekjal          I remember testing with default library rules only, and having it work
16:43 sekjal          my patch didn't change any mechanics for the hold policies in general
16:43 wizzyrea        k
16:43 sekjal          just piggybacked on what already existed
16:43 wizzyrea        k
16:43 wizzyrea        cool
16:43 wizzyrea        ty
16:43 sekjal          if you can verify that, it would bring us all peace of mind
16:43 wizzyrea        I'll try :)
16:45 wizzyrea        oleonard i love that floating save button
16:45 wizzyrea        in cataloging.
16:45 wizzyrea        so handy.
16:46 oleonard        Thanks. I still forget it's there and scroll to the top to look for it.
16:47 wizzyrea        I also still like the add item screen
16:47 wizzyrea        nice when you have zillions of items.
16:49 reiveune        bye
16:51 jcamins         Floating save button in cataloging?
16:51 * jcamins       hasn't noticed that yet.
16:51 wizzyrea        it sticks to the top of the screen when you scroll down
16:51 wizzyrea        so no matter where you are
16:51 wizzyrea        scroll-wise
16:51 wizzyrea        the save button is always visible
16:51 jcamins         Very cool.
17:01 oleonard        Where the heck did all my lists go?
17:01 jcamins         oleonard: uh-oh.
17:02 jcamins         oleonard: what patch did you just test?
17:02 oleonard        Can't have been the patch I just tested--no database update.
17:03 oleonard        The last database update I tested was probably my own
17:03 oleonard        ...which is good news for everyone else.
17:04 * jcamins       will not test that one until you've tracked down the problem.
17:07 sekjal          lunch!
17:11 wizzyrea        no, the thing where all branches must have a rule for an itemtype hold limit to be honored is still there.
17:11 wizzyrea        it's ok, not part of this bug
17:12 wizzyrea        but will need to be documented.
17:13 magnus_afk      hey, we're down to 71 needs signoff - that's awesome!
17:13 wizzyrea        :)
17:19 kf              yes it is!
17:19 kf              awesome I mean :)
17:19 kf              bye all :)
17:22 * oleonard      feels like all he's doing today is shooting things down
17:23 sekjal          oleonard:  same here
17:25 slef            Connecting...error = System (lower-layer) error: Connection timed out
17:25 sekjal          if anyone can test bug 6273 (requires SIP), I'd greatly appreciate it
17:25 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6273 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , SIP2 Fee Paid and Fee Paid Response support
17:25 slef            ok, getting that from zebrasrv. What have I overlooked?
17:29 bag             bug 7458
17:29 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7458 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , New call number allocation plugin
17:31 slef            what I'd overlooked was the unix: prefix on the socket filename
17:40 jcamins         paul_p: why are we using HTML4?
17:40 paul_p          hehe... HTML4 is the 4th HTML coding guideline !
17:40 paul_p          not HTML4 standard ;-)
17:41 jcamins         Oh.
17:41 jcamins         Okay.
17:41 jcamins         That's good.
17:52 slef            needs a better name
17:52 paul_p          OK, ttl
18:05 oleonard        sekjal still around?
18:06 sekjal          oleonard:  yes
18:06 oleonard        I have a question about Bug 7408
18:06 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Expire holds that have been waiting too long
18:06 oleonard        I've run the new script successfully: expiration dates updated, fines set.
18:07 cait            hi #koha
18:07 oleonard        But the expiration date is set to today, and the cancel_expired_holds script only cancels holds with expiration date less than today.
18:07 wizzyrea        wb cait
18:08 oleonard        So if you run expire_holds_over.pl, then cancel_expired_holds.pl, then expire_holds_over.pl again, you get double-fines
18:08 cait            thx wizzyrea
18:08 cait            it's brrr outside
18:08 jcamins         wb cait.
18:08 cait            thx jcamins
18:08 oleonard        I realize it won't normally be run in quick succession like that
18:08 cait            @wunder Konstanz
18:08 huginn`         cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -10.0�C (7:00 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Rising).
18:09 sekjal          oleonard:  interesting...
18:09 wahanui         interesting is probably good
18:10 sekjal          the idea was that this would be a nightly cronjob
18:10 sekjal          but it should dovetail better with the behaviour of cancel_expired_holds.pl
18:11 oleonard        Is there any reason why the new script shouldn't set the expiration date to yesterday?
18:12 sekjal          oleonard:  or it could run with >= instead of >
18:18 cait            hmm
18:18 cait            sekjal: I am spotting some things on 7420 I am wondering about
18:18 cait            bug 7420
18:18 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7420 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Add max fines to circulation matrix
18:18 cait            http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=7487
18:18 cait            I see some warns there
18:19 cait            those will show up in the logs, right?
18:19 sekjal          cait:  I think so, but I don't know for sure
18:20 cait            should I note on the bug?
18:20 sekjal          yes
18:21 cait            ok
18:25 * cait          was only looking at it because working on fines and notices today ... :(
18:26 sekjal          cait++
18:27 cait            should go and make dinner
18:28 slef            koha-kobli?
18:29 slef            anyone know about koha-kobli? I forget if it's public or a fork or what
18:29 jcamins         It's a fork that they keep on promising to release, I think.
18:33 slef            ok, I'll push back on linkedin
18:33 jcamins         I could be mistaken.
18:36 slef            http://kobli.bage.es/descargas-kobli/ has some downloads
18:36 slef            all zipfiles and pdfs
18:36 slef            obscuraware
18:37 slef            downloading
18:38 slef            Spanish for tree, anyone?
18:38 * jcamins       doesn't know Spanish, sorry.
18:39 slef            aborl
18:39 slef            arból even
18:39 slef            hey I don't either, why should that excuse you? ;)
18:41 slef            http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=kobli;a=summary
18:41 slef            2011-07-15 last update
18:45 slef            [off] learn with me: liblime no es el oficial koha. Es bifurcación
18:52 Culiforge       Does anyone know if there is a koha rpm for fedora?
18:55 jcamins         Culiforge: there is not.
18:57 Culiforge       jcamins: thx, saw someone on fed boards say there was a YUM repo for it for CentOS in which they also said that cent and fedora enterprise were the "same'
18:57 Culiforge       figured I'd check here with the knowledgeable folks
18:57 jcamins         Culiforge: maybe I'm wrong, then.
18:58 jcamins         However, to the best of my knowledge, the last RPM was for 3.0.
18:58 cait            wizzyrea: do you remember which menus were broken after applying the translation patch?
18:59 Culiforge       so then my next question, the boss wants koha on fedora 14.. wiki has instructions for fed 7. what's best method in your opinions for installing..
19:00 jcamins         Culiforge: persuade him to use Debian.
19:00 jcamins         Barring that, run Debian using kvm.
19:00 Culiforge       jcamins: wish I could.. he's hooked on fedora because of rpmtools
19:01 jcamins         Doesn't kvm let you run Fedora but also run Debian?
19:05 Culiforge       jcamins: I asked around in the Fedora forums this morning for some advice and got soundly thrashed for it.. Makes me wanna dump Fedora right now if that's any indication of what their community is like
19:06 jcamins         Culiforge: I haven't heard anything good about installing Koha on Fedora/RH.
19:07 Culiforge       jcamins: I'll have to talk to the boss-man/fedora-man about it.. he seems to think it's easy-peasy
19:08 sekjal          Culiforge:  I can tell you from experience that RedHat installations are an absolute nightmare (if not flat out impossible).  Not sure how much of that applies to Fedora
19:10 Culiforge       sekjal: thanks for the heads up
19:11 sekjal          Culiforge:  you're welcome.  best of luck
19:13 slef            it is possible but no, not fun
19:13 lculber         jcamins here?
19:13 slef            after using apt and dpkg, yum and rpm feel like doing your own dentistry
19:13 oleonard        jcamins is always here, especially when he says he isn't.
19:13 slef            @seen jcamins
19:13 huginn`         slef: jcamins was last seen in #koha 7 minutes and 39 seconds ago: <jcamins> Culiforge: I haven't heard anything good about installing Koha on Fedora/RH.
19:14 slef            bbl
19:14 lculber         Is anyone else testing 7824?
19:15 oleonard        Check that bug number lculber
19:15 sekjal          bug 7284
19:15 wahanui         bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen.
19:15 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
19:16 lculber         I'm testing 7824 and have a question, but will check back.  I'm a rank beginner but trying.
19:18 jcamins         lculber: I'm here now.
19:18 jcamins         Having a late lunhc. :)
19:19 jcamins         *lunch
19:21 lculber         jcamins:  In patch testing plan setting up patch, the first part seems to be already there now. Found all files except file supposed to run installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_linking_pt1
19:22 lculber         Can I still proceed. Everything else looks right.
19:22 jcamins         If that file isn't there, the patch probably hasn't been applied correctly.
19:22 wizzyrea        ^^
19:22 jcamins         The other files that are called for are required for all Koha installations, it just so happens that they have to be updated by the patch.
19:23 jcamins         The following commands should take care of the installation:
19:23 jcamins         Actually, I'll use paste.koha-community.org (one moment while I paste them)
19:25 lculber         All your nice settings are in the system preferences. I was so excited. :(
19:25 jcamins         Oh, they are?
19:25 jcamins         Hm.
19:26 jcamins         If they show up in the system preferences, the problem is probably a typo in my instructions.
19:26 jcamins         If you run git log, does it show a *really long* commit message about bug 7284?
19:26 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
19:27 lculber         yes, it is really long
19:27 jcamins         Okay, good.
19:27 lculber         Not sure it is all there though
19:28 jcamins         What we wanted to check was that there was a long message.
19:28 jcamins         If it's not very short, it's the right patch, and installed correctly. :)
19:28 jcamins         wizzyrea: there's apparently an error in my test plan.
19:28 * wizzyrea      gasps
19:28 schuster        schuster gasps!
19:28 wizzyrea        my mental image of your perfection has been shattered!
19:29 wizzyrea        wait... no, it's fine.
19:29 wizzyrea        ^.^
19:29 jcamins         lculber: in that case, yeah, you can just continue with your tests. :)
19:30 wizzyrea        nice test plan (seriously)
19:30 lculber         you all need to remember that I'm not only a rank beginner but a total klutz, so if there is an error it is probably mine.
19:30 wizzyrea        hehe - mistakes, we all make them.
19:30 wizzyrea        is why we TEST ALL THE THINGS
19:31 jcamins         Well, that and who doesn't like running the authority linker over and over and over?
19:31 wizzyrea        http://troll.me/test-all-the-things/
19:32 lculber         I'm going to try forging ahead.  If it doesn't work, I'll try reinstalling the patch. How's that sound?
19:32 jcamins         That makes sense.
19:32 jcamins         If you're seeing the sysprefs, though, you have it all set up properly. :)
19:32 lculber         Okay.  Here I go.
19:35 jcamins         Who looks at the rectangular selection tool in Photoshop and says "ah-ha! We should call that the "marquee tool"?
19:35 wizzyrea        why not call it the "rectangular selection tool"
19:35 lculber         spoke too soon. Was setting my system prefernces and some seem to be missing, so I think something got garbled.  Can you post how to fix?
19:35 jcamins         wizzyrea: that's my question!
19:36 jcamins         lculber: hm. What's the output of ls ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate
19:36 wizzyrea        this is me hoping that you didn't do that on your production system ^.^
19:40 lculber         opps - senior moment. forgot where the paste thing is.  The output of ls ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate is 10 lines long
19:41 jcamins         http://paste.koha-community.org/
19:42 pastebot        "lculber" at pasted "ls ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/245
19:42 jcamins         Yeah, typo on my part it looks like.
19:43 jcamins         Run: perl ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_linking_pt1
19:43 schuster        Get it all square - I'm working on getting a "testing" machine setup - I'm stripping all my data and loading only 50,000 bibs so it will be manageable.
19:44 schuster        jcamins - did you want my Auth and biblio?  I extracted the screens as you instructed so could provide you my full data if you want them still.
19:44 pastebot        "lculber" at pasted "perl output" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/246
19:45 jcamins         lculber: Ah! You need to set KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB.
19:45 jcamins         As follows:
19:45 jcamins         export KOHA_CONF=/home/lculber/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml
19:45 jcamins         export PERL5LIB=/home/lculber/kohaclone
19:45 jcamins         Then rerun.
19:45 jcamins         schuster: At this point I'm having other people test so that we can get the improved linking into Koha ASAP, so there's probably no point in sending it.
19:47 schuster        Sorry I've been so behind in helping test...  I finally found my usb drives to help me move files around here at the office!  For me to do testing and interact I have to do it at home right now so it is a pain.  Needs to look into what it would take to open stuff here at the office.
19:48 jcamins         That's okay.
19:48 lculber         Success! Upgrade done (Configured bug 7284, improved authority matching)
19:48 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
19:49 jcamins         Woohoo!
19:49 jcamins         Now you just play with the options and see if it does what you want! :)
19:49 jcamins         Then, when it does (I'm being optimistic), you can sign off. :)
19:49 jcamins         You may want to add those two export... lines to your ~/.profile file, so that they're always set.
19:50 lculber         I did know better.  I just messed up.  They are actually in koha_test
19:51 lculber         my bad.
19:51 jcamins         We all do that sort of thing. That's what #koha is for.
19:51 jcamins         Well, that and discussing food.
19:51 lculber         So I need to reinstall yet again, right?
19:52 jcamins         Nope.
19:52 * magnus_afk    perks up at the mention of food
19:52 jcamins         Now you just try the linker.
19:53 jcamins         magnus_afk: the cookies I made yesterday came out very tasty.
19:54 magnus_afk      jcamins: yay!
19:54 magnus_afk      i'll take your word for it
19:55 * oleonard      tests an acquisitions bug by ordering "Netscape 2 simplified"
19:57 * jcamins       wonders how long it will be before he encounters a collector who actually collects that sort of book.
19:57 magnus_afk      o/
19:58 lculber         jcamins:  all links same Duplicate entry  - so were already there from first time run?
19:58 lculber         sorry.  All lines say Duplicate entry  for key 'PRIMARY
19:59 jcamins         Ah.
19:59 jcamins         Yes, that means it installed properly.
19:59 jcamins         (previously)
20:06 schuster        jcamins what type of cookies did you make?
20:06 jcamins         schuster: my family calls them "sandtarts," but they're not the same as everyone else's "sandtarts."
20:06 schuster        about time druthb_away joined Koha LOL....
20:07 schuster        Never heard of one what is that?
20:08 schuster        Just looked it up they remind me of the italian wedding cookie... hummmm.
20:09 jcamins         They're chocolate chip cookies with a bit of lemon extract and no baking soda or baking powder.
20:09 jcamins         Very tasty.
20:09 jcamins         I've never had what most people call "sandtarts."
20:09 jcamins         Right, those are nothing like what I made.
20:11 jcamins         Really easy recipe: 1 c. butter, 1-1/4 c. sugar, 1 tsp. vanilla extract, 1 tsp. lemon extract, 1 egg, 2 c. flour, 1 c. chocolate chips. Bake 7-9 min at 350F
20:13 jcamins         They're favorites, as you could probably tell from the way I could give you the recipe off the top of my head.
20:13 oleonard        I'm still looking for comments on Bug 7493 if any database-savvy folks care to look
20:13 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7493 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments"
20:16 cait            oleonard: your logic made sense to me - only not sure if a null borrowernumber will make problems somewhere?
20:16 cait            display in opac/moderating comments/recent comments
20:17 oleonard        Yes, of course the next step will be to find and fix those problems.
20:17 lculber         jcamins: I have data in the database.  Would that have everything off?
20:18 jcamins         lculber: it defaults to exactly the way it behaves now.
20:19 jcamins         So it'll be set to LinkerRelink = on, and the others off.
20:20 schuster        So is there an easy way to see bugs needing sign off?
20:20 jcamins         lculber: you can try setting it just to the combination of settings that you think is most appropriate for *your* data, though, to start with.
20:20 jcamins         schuster: I'm glad you asked!
20:20 jcamins         There is indeed.
20:20 jcamins         Uh-oh.
20:20 jcamins         Is bugs.k-c.org down?
20:20 schuster        jcamins so you just mix together and bake? just a regular cookie?
20:20 jcamins         schuster: yup.
20:21 sekjal          schuster:  http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=Needs%20Signoff&sharer_id=1&list_id=21309
20:21 schuster        thanks sekjal
20:22 jcamins         lculber: the link_bibs_to_authorities.pl task is now much faster, so you could even try lots of different combinations to see what works best for you.
20:22 jcamins         lculber: you could also just work through the test plan, actually, since that will test almost every possibility.
20:31 lculber         jcamins:  I just did a quick reinstall - took 2 minutes - just to see.  I'm working through your test instructions again now
20:32 jcamins         lculber: this is a particularly large patch- once you've gotten through the signing off procedure on this one, you should be pretty much comfortable to sign off on anything you're interested in. :)
20:33 cait            heh
20:34 lculber         jcamins:  the setting up patch instructions went just as they should this time so, I think the patch did NOT install correctly the first time.
20:35 lculber         jcamins:  Since I already have biblios and authorities in the database, do I need to run zebra indexing before or after running misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r
20:36 lculber         opps that didn't make sense, did it? Duh!
20:36 jcamins         lculber: not really, no.
20:36 jcamins         :)
20:37 schuster        jcamins - do you have to have it indexed before you do the linking?
20:37 jcamins         schuster: yes.
20:37 jcamins         schuster: well, the authorities have to be indexed.
20:37 schuster        OK thanks
20:37 jcamins         How else could the linker find them.
20:37 jcamins         *?
20:37 jcamins         ;)
20:38 lculber         Well, I'm off to do indexing then. 100000+ biblios and about 24500 authorities I think, so it will be a while.  I'll check back.
20:38 jcamins         Yeah, that'll take a bit.
20:49 oleonard        magnus_afk++ # for fixing tweet bot
20:49 wizzyrea        I really like the tweet bot
20:49 wizzyrea        it could go all the time and i wouldn't complain.
20:51 jcamins         Tweet bot?
20:51 oleonard        Whatever witchery sends the GBSD tweets
20:52 jcamins         What GBSD tweets?
20:52 oleonard        https://twitter.com/KohaGBSD
20:54 jcamins         Cool!
20:54 * wizzyrea      pokes qa about bug 7001
20:54 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , User Configurable Slips
20:54 cait            ok, my data is imported :P
20:55 * cait          joins the ranks for testing bug 7284
20:55 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
20:55 jcamins         cait++
20:56 wizzyrea        any way to *export* authorities from koha?
20:56 wizzyrea        or is that a "can of worms"
20:56 jcamins         wizzyrea: I just use "SELECT marc FROM auth_header;"
20:56 wizzyrea        ohsnaps
20:56 wizzyrea        okies
20:56 sekjal          wizzyrea:  there is also a command line utility
20:57 wizzyrea        wut wut
20:57 jcamins         sekjal: there is?
20:57 * wizzyrea      peers at sekjal
20:57 wizzyrea        srsly?
20:58 sekjal          misc/exportauth.pl
20:58 wizzyrea        wowie
20:58 wizzyrea        i had no idea.
20:58 jcamins         Cool!
20:58 jcamins         Nor did I.
20:59 sekjal          just does what jcamins described, only automated and into one output file
20:59 wizzyrea        still - neat
20:59 sekjal          agreed
21:00 sekjal          7001 is way too big for me to QA today
21:00 sekjal          sorry
21:01 wizzyrea        :) all good, just getting it on the radar. :)
21:01 sekjal          it's just about time for me to take off to meet my colleagues over at the science library
21:01 wizzyrea        they're librarians... FOR SCIENCE.
21:03 Space_Librarian Don't mock 'em. I was one for years. :p
21:03 oleonard        Oh that wasn't mocking, I'm sure.
21:04 Space_Librarian I know.
21:04 cait            wizzyrea?
21:04 wahanui         I LIKE SCIENCE!
21:04 cait            :)
21:05 Space_Librarian They actually tattle-taped me when I left... *sigh*
21:05 wizzyrea        O.o
21:05 wizzyrea        hey, I love science librarians.
21:05 Space_Librarian And marked me "property of the science library"
21:05 wizzyrea        hehehehe
21:05 cait            oh
21:05 cait            there is an atomiacupdate
21:05 Space_Librarian fun times
21:06 sekjal          http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/2/23/Xkcd-im-going-to-try-science.jpg
21:06 * collum        is having flashbacks of dialog searching
21:06 jcamins         cait: yeah, but fortunately you don't need to run it prior to indexing.
21:06 cait            that's good :)
21:06 wizzyrea        yes, exactly
21:07 cait            although indexing is fast enough, nice laptop :)
21:07 cait            jcamins: how do I run the update?
21:07 oleonard        http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_status.pl
21:07 jcamins         cait: perl installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_matching_pt1
21:07 wizzyrea        perl installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/ lol dangit
21:07 wizzyrea        you're too fast
21:07 cait            ok done
21:07 wizzyrea        :)
21:07 cait            thx :)
21:10 cait            64!
21:10 cait            that's amazing!
21:10 cait            and gbsd has not even started in europe
21:10 wizzyrea        :D
21:10 wizzyrea        ok, sorry to be dense jcamins -- when you say "make sure you install the following files" -- install from where?
21:11 cait            ah
21:11 cait            I just found that
21:11 cait            copy over
21:11 oleonard        Those Kiribati devs are good.
21:11 cait            from kohaclone/etc to your koha-dev/etc
21:11 wizzyrea        gotcha
21:11 cait            for indexing... so I have to reindex
21:11 cait            *sigh*
21:12 jcamins         cait: sorry. :(
21:12 cait            I should have read the instructions :)
21:13 * jcamins       uses softlinks for all of the Zebra configuration files.
21:13 jcamins         Other than the .cfg files, obviously.
21:15 sekjal          okay, off I go.  later, #koha!
21:15 cait            reindexing now
21:19 oleonard        See ya #koha. Leave me just, you know, one or two bugs to sign off on tomorrow.
21:19 wizzyrea        hehe bye oleonard
21:19 wizzyrea        atz! hi!
21:19 * oleonard      waves to atz in passing
21:21 wizzyrea        aaand by
21:21 wizzyrea        e
21:22 cait            hm
21:22 cait            what is the diffrence between Main entry ($a only) , Main entry and Heading match?
21:24 jcamins         Main entry ($a only) is mostly UNIMARC.
21:24 jcamins         It's supposed to be only 1xx$a, I think.
21:24 jcamins         Main entry is 1xx$*
21:24 jcamins         Headming match is 1xx$*, 4xx$*, and 5xx$*.
21:26 cait            I should not have asked
21:26 cait            ok
21:26 cait            another question
21:26 cait            without running any linker
21:27 cait            my authority search shows 6 linked records for one of my authorities...
21:27 cait            how can that happen?
21:28 drojf1          magic? :)
21:28 cait            it sure look slike it
21:28 cait            jcamins: magic?
21:28 drojf1          ev'nin' #koha
21:28 cait            hi drojf1 )
21:28 cait            :)
21:28 cait            @wunder Konstanz
21:28 huginn`         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -10.1�C (10:24 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
21:29 jcamins         cait: that's a good question.
21:29 Space_Librarian @wunder wellington, nz
21:29 huginn`         Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
21:29 jcamins         If you don't have anything in $9, that shouldn't happen.
21:29 cait            I tihnk I know what happened
21:29 cait            the authimport used our 001 numbers
21:30 cait            and the bibliographic data I used had $9 fields...
21:30 mtj             morning #koha
21:30 * mtj           waves to all
21:30 cait            and it's only working for some because the X at the end got cut off in auth_headers
21:30 cait            hi mtj :)
21:30 drojf1          @wunder berlin, germany
21:30 huginn`         drojf1: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -5.1�C (10:12 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.81 in 1043.2 hPa (Rising).
21:31 jcamins         cait: right.
21:31 jcamins         That'll do it.
21:31 cait            yeah
21:31 cait            got only confused because it was only a few entries where it worked
21:31 cait            sorry
21:32 drojf1          we never used authorities since we had no real library system. if we will start to use them, will we have to link them by hand after importing? or is there some magic to do that for us?
21:32 * wizzyrea      waits for it
21:32 jcamins         drojf1: cait is testing the magic for linking. :)
21:32 wizzyrea        there it is.
21:33 cait            hehe
21:33 drojf1          :)
21:33 jcamins         You should test it too.
21:33 cait            he is so predictable :P
21:33 wizzyrea        hehe
21:33 jcamins         See how it works for you.
21:33 * wizzyrea      is trying to get authorities out of her production system
21:33 cait            oh
21:33 cait            is tomorrow blue cat wednesday?
21:33 drojf1          not tonight, had a long day of filemaker boredom. but i will try tomorrow
21:33 drojf1          that is, i will try to try :)
21:34 drojf1          which bug is it?
21:34 jcamins         Bug 7284.
21:34 wahanui         well, bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen.
21:34 jcamins         cait: yup.
21:34 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
21:34 cait            say hi to chester :)
21:35 jcamins         I will. :)
21:36 cait            wow 4 new system preferences?
21:36 jcamins         Yeah.
21:36 jcamins         And actually there's one undocumented feature.
21:36 jcamins         I realized that last night.
21:38 * drojf1        is too tired to even read the whole description now :(
21:38 * jcamins       will update the bug to reflect it.
21:39 * wizzyrea      loves surprises
21:39 cait            drojf1: I go one sentence .at a time
21:40 cait            ok, I tested the first part
21:40 cait            but now I am not even sure what BiblioAddsAuthorities does
21:40 jcamins         It sets whether you can edit authority-controlled fields at all.
21:41 drojf1          i will try tomorrow. i have the feeling that i wont be too koha-productive though since i will actually go to the library. there are always people to bother me with non-koha things ;)
21:41 drojf1          cait: maybe you can write me a walktrhough for the walkthrough and i follow in your footsteps ;)
21:42 cait            lol
21:42 jcamins         cait: I thought about eliminating it, but thought that might be a problem for QA.
21:42 jcamins         I mean, that QA-ers wouldn't like it.
21:42 cait            sorry, I  am stuck in the labyrinth myself
21:42 drojf1          i hope you used bread crumbs
21:42 cait            yarn :)
21:42 cait            bread crumbs get eaten by the cats
21:43 jcamins         cait: but yarn gets played with!
21:43 eythian         hi everyone
21:43 cait            hi eythian
21:43 wizzyrea        holy snaps.
21:43 jcamins         eythian! You should join the 7284-signing off party!
21:43 cait            jcamins: yeah... so i am LOST!
21:43 wizzyrea        I did not know that members/update-child.pl even existed.
21:43 * wizzyrea      feels a bit dumb now
21:43 jcamins         cait: :(
21:43 jcamins         cait: I thought I made it very clear.
21:43 cait            wizzyrea: apparently noone knew
21:43 jcamins         I guess not?
21:43 cait            jcamins: yes, but my yarn got played with...
21:44 drojf1          lol
21:44 * cait          thinks it was the blue cat
21:44 cait            jcamins: it's only getting late and I had a long day - will try to continue tomorrow
21:44 cait            I have set up the database now and cataloging behaves like it should so far :)
21:44 cait            no worries
21:46 drojf1          i dont know if we even have a framework for authorities now. or specs for one. i see a whole new world of fun in front of me
21:47 jcamins         drojf1: the authorities framework comes by default.
21:47 drojf1          yes but we have to decide what fields we will use
21:47 drojf1          and i hope i am not the person to do that
21:47 eythian         jcamins: authorities scare me a little I think :)
21:48 drojf1          have not looked at that much yet
21:48 drojf1          eythian: me too :D
21:49 jcamins         eythian: that's how we know you're human. :P
21:50 cait            lol
21:50 cait            drojf1: if you set an installation up with the sample files, it should work for playing with jcamins patch
21:50 wizzyrea        oh - uh, I should do THAT
21:51 wizzyrea        rather than do what I'm doing :P
21:51 wizzyrea        cait++ for always having the best ideas.
21:51 cait            ?
21:51 wizzyrea        using the sample data.
21:51 wizzyrea        der.
21:51 cait            ah
21:51 drojf1          cait: yeah i thought so. but its an issue for our import too and i have not heard much from my colleague about it. so i guess nothing happened in that field for us
21:51 cait            I meant the frameworks
21:51 cait            you will still need authority records I guess
21:51 wizzyrea        hrmph.
21:51 wizzyrea        :)
21:51 cait            heh
22:00 slef            @marc 001
22:00 huginn`         slef: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). []
22:01 slef            marc21?
22:01 wahanui         marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html
22:01 wizzyrea        i'm vaguely surprised that there is no reference to marc being evil or needing to die in there.
22:01 drojf1          :D
22:02 eythian         wahanui: marc
22:02 wahanui         http://marc-must-die.info
22:02 eythian         there you go
22:02 wizzyrea        keke
22:03 * drojf1        sneaks off to bed
22:03 drojf1          good night #koha, have a nice meeting
22:04 wizzyrea        jcamins: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/boingboing/iBag/~3/Iz5bkeGYpZE/reading-lamps-made-from-drille.html
22:04 cait            night drojf1
22:05 jcamins         That's pretty cool, but I'm not sure how practical it is.
22:05 jcamins         I prefer my reading lamps to shine line down from overhead.
22:05 wizzyrea        it's not - just a use for very old (not rare) books
22:06 druthb          $140-150 for that?  dang.  I'm in the wrong bizness.
22:07 wizzyrea        it's not too late!
22:07 * wizzyrea      imagines them made out of old romance novels
22:07 wizzyrea        spicy!
22:07 druthb          lulz.
22:07 cait            lol
22:07 cait            wizzyrea++
22:09 druthb          11 or 12 bucks for the bulb, find the books at goodwill (or make a library book sale VERY happy), plus some wiring, a switch, and a bulb base....
22:12 lculber         Really dumb question about web interfaces used for testing  - cloned branch.
22:12 wizzyrea        i'm sure it's not dumb, go ahead
22:12 wizzyrea        @quote search ask
22:12 huginn`         wizzyrea: 7 found: #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one...", #126: "<rangi> The beauty of Koha is we develop in the...", #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.......", #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!", #155: "libsysguy: I always hate touching somebody...", #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking...", and #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to..."
22:14 lculber         wizzyrea: don't underestimate my stupidity. I cloned master, checked out and set up and set up a test branch to use, and that's where my data is.
22:14 wizzyrea        @quote get 145
22:14 huginn`         wizzyrea: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011)
22:14 wizzyrea        seems sand :)
22:14 wizzyrea        sane* even.
22:14 cait            good night all
22:14 wizzyrea        gnite cait
22:14 druthb          wizzyrea++   #gots her reasons, m'kay?
22:15 lculber         Okay, well now when I try to get to it using the ip address I can't see the data.  I can see it in the database, but not in the browser
22:15 wizzyrea        but you get the web interface?
22:15 cait            will not be around for the meeting :(
22:15 cait            3am... *sigh*
22:15 lculber         Yes, but it is empty.
22:16 wizzyrea        meaning that you can click around, but there's nothing in there to look at?
22:16 wizzyrea        or that the page is entirely blank
22:16 wizzyrea        sorry to be dense :)
22:16 lculber         I can click around but it doesn't even look like the right version. It looks like 3.6, when it should be master - that's what I cloned
22:17 wizzyrea        well 3.6 and master would look very similar.
22:17 wizzyrea        but, the point is
22:17 lculber         In about it says. 3.6. 0. 0
22:17 wizzyrea        ah, are you running more than one instance on this test machine?
22:17 magnus_afk      64 bugs that need signoff - more awesomeness! i'll do my best to tackle bug 6440 tomorrow, if noone beats me to it
22:17 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets
22:18 wizzyrea        that one is all yours :)
22:18 magnus_afk      wizzyrea: yay ;-)
22:18 lculber         wizzyrea,  yes, afraid there is another instance - 3.6.2 and it's beautiful.
22:18 magnus_afk      g'night #koha, and happy hunting!
22:19 lculber         I gave the other instance a name of koha_test and tried that, - no go, and so tried the ip.  Same thing.  I don't know what else to try.
22:19 jcamins         lculber: probably you need to run updatedatabase.
22:20 jcamins         lculber: or, how did you set up multiple instances?
22:20 wizzyrea        I don't think that would keep her from seeing things like patrons, for example
22:20 jcamins         wizzyrea: ah, hm.
22:20 * jcamins       didn't read all the way back.
22:20 wizzyrea        I suspect that there is some confusion about which koha-conf.xml it's looking at
22:20 lculber         I set up the multiple instances using the instructions on the wiki
22:20 wizzyrea        oh, link?
22:20 wahanui         rumour has it link is a bit confusing
22:20 wizzyrea        forget link
22:20 wahanui         wizzyrea: I forgot link
22:20 slef            bleah anyone want a cataloguing question?
22:21 jcamins         slef: no, what is it?
22:21 wizzyrea        hahaha
22:21 Space_Librarian depends...
22:22 slef            when cataloging a book that was donated, can the donor's name go in the marc21 anywhere?
22:22 jcamins         slef: 561.
22:22 jcamins         Or...
22:22 jcamins         541.
22:22 jcamins         Probably 541.
22:22 wizzyrea        nm I found it, lculber.
22:23 wizzyrea        ok so
22:23 slef            jcamins: 542 looks good. ta.
22:23 slef            jcamins++
22:23 jcamins         541.
22:23 jcamins         542 is for copyright.
22:24 slef              1
22:24 slef            sorry
22:24 slef            kindle keyb a bit fiddly
22:24 wizzyrea        ..... kindle?
22:24 * wizzyrea      faints
22:24 slef            yeah
22:24 slef            it runs debian
22:24 wizzyrea        hehehehe
22:24 wizzyrea        nice one
22:24 slef            low power
22:25 slef            free 3g
22:25 wizzyrea        actually that's quite awesome.
22:25 wizzyrea        easy to read :)
22:25 schuster        Why in the MARC and not just the item record itself?
22:25 slef            although 3g only in the browser
22:26 schuster        That way when the Library "weeds" the donated copy and another copy comes in you don't think that was the donated copy. and your MARC record is still "clean"
22:26 slef            so I just regret the amaxonism and foxconn
22:26 slef            schuster: very good point
22:26 schuster        OPAC note is a good spot for the item - Donated by- and still searchable by Koha.
22:26 schuster        I have moments...
22:26 slef            schuster: best ask them why they put them in the bibs on the current cat
22:27 wizzyrea        slef - it's getting difficult to buy ethically produced electronics. :(
22:27 slef            so that'll take a week...
22:27 wizzyrea        they're like the nike shoes of the current generation
22:27 schuster        probably because that was the only place they could put it to be indexed. - slef
22:27 slef            wizzyrea: getting???
22:27 wizzyrea        well i'm not sure you actually *can* buy ethically produced electronics.
22:28 jcamins         lculber: where is your master install located?
22:28 jcamins         I mean, koha-dev, koha-dev2... ?
22:28 wizzyrea        i was *trying* (poorly) to be optimistics
22:28 wizzyrea        :P
22:28 slef            wizzyrea: we've always had this prob. Ever sinceI've looked into it
22:28 schuster        ok done for now!  I'm working on my batch picture upload command line and borrower batch command line utilities for cron jobs that we have running
22:29 wizzyrea        slef: :(((
22:29 slef            wizzyrea: it's the only bit of the coop codewe completely fail on and always have
22:30 wizzyrea        don't even know where to begin on that problem.
22:30 slef            and niw lots of stuff has conflict minerals in
22:30 slef            now
22:30 slef            me either
22:30 lculber         jcamins:  master was downloaded to /home/lculber/kohaclone but it was installed to the regular koha paths like /user/share/koha_test
22:31 lculber         the instance is called koha_test
22:31 slef            I've a bamboo keyboard and some uk-made stuff
22:31 slef            but it's minor
22:31 wizzyrea        *nod*
22:31 slef            @marc 952
22:31 wahanui         The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
22:31 huginn`         slef: unknown tag 952
22:35 slef            biab
22:37 jcamins         lculber: oh, in that case you need to adjust the export... commands to match /usr/share/koha_test/*
22:38 jcamins         Probably you need to adjust your Apache config to point to /usr/share/koha_test too.
22:38 wizzyrea        sounded to me like she had apache sorted :)
22:41 lculber         We got it.  It was an apache configuration issue.  And then the database did need to be updated. Thanks for the help wizzyrea and jcamins. I was going nuts.
22:43 lculber         Now about says
22:43 wizzyrea        squee!
22:43 jcamins         Hooray!
22:44 lculber         Yes!  My data is all there and I can start testing. Sorry it's taken me so long. Thanks for your patience and help.
22:46 lculber         jcamins:  We have lots of authorities and the only ones that are linked are the ones since we moved to Koha in May.  How would you like us to start?
22:47 lculber         Ones added I mean.
22:47 lculber         Most of them are older from old system
22:51 jcamins         lculber: there's a complete test plan on the ticket, but you might also just try turning LinkerRelink and LinkerKeepStale on and turning AutoCreateAuthorities off.
22:51 jcamins         See if that gets the links set up the way you want.
22:51 jcamins         Or, maybe even better:
22:52 jcamins         Turn LinkerKeepStale off, and set LinkerOptions to "broader_headings"
22:52 jcamins         (leaving LinkerRelink on and AutoCreateAuthorities off)
22:53 jcamins         Then run link_bibs_to_authorities.pl -l -v > ~/linker.log
22:54 jcamins         Do you have a lot of duplicate authorities?
22:56 lculber         This is exciting. Will link_bibs_to_authorities.pl  work now?  I saw that was one of the tests.  Should I hold off on it?
22:56 jcamins         It should.
22:57 lculber         We shouldn't have any duplicate auhtorities as far as I know - but that doesn't mean we don't
22:57 jcamins         The best thing to do for testing would probably be to work through the test plan on the bug, then try the combination of settings I just gave you and see if that links everything you feel should be linked.
22:57 jcamins         Hm.
22:57 jcamins         You might want to also use the FirstMatch LinkerModule.
22:58 jcamins         (for the final test)
22:59 jcamins         The test plan will enable you to confidently sign off on the bug for Koha.
23:00 jcamins         The configuration I suggested will hopefully meet MDAH's needs long-term. :)
23:00 lculber         Fantastic. I'm going to get the cataloger who specializes in authority work to work with me. She will be excited and know what to watch for. We are SO excited!!
23:01 lculber         jcamins++
23:01 jcamins         :)
23:01 * jcamins       is very excited to have this in Koha, too.
23:01 lculber         Off for testing. thanks!
23:02 jcamins         You're welcome.
23:02 jcamins         Post any comments you have on the bug. :)
23:32 jcamins         Good night, #koha.