Time Nick Message 00:36 eythian rangi: know anything about t/Csv.t and t/Koha_template_plugin_KohaDates.t having the same issue? 00:36 eythian because they seem to. 00:42 rangi ah yep follow up on 929 for the KohaDates one 00:42 rangi and i think need one on 5327 for the CSV one 01:12 Smurk Help... 01:12 Smurk I can't restart rebuild-zebra... 01:12 Smurk Someone help me. :( 01:14 eythian Smurk: provide more information 01:17 Smurk Whatever command I enter, the shell says "-sh [command] not found" 01:18 Smurk I used to do MORE or CAT (I can't remember) just to read a file, and now I can't even do that... 01:18 Smurk What's wrong with me? I am really helpless! 01:18 Smurk I have followed the advice from someone in the mailing list (clear the zebra indexes). Now I just need to start it again, and I can't. 01:19 eythian Smurk: can you use 'less' to read a file? 01:20 eythian but that error is a bit strange... 01:21 Smurk yes, it works 01:24 Smurk What am i supposed to write to restart rebuild zebra ? 01:24 Smurk rebuild_zebra or koha-rebuild-zebra or what else ? 01:25 eythian how have you installed koha? From packages, or from git, or from a tar.gz file? 01:25 Smurk package 01:26 Smurk (sorry, one hand only now :)) 01:26 Smurk I guess I should do that http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-rebuild-zebra 01:27 eythian then do 'sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f *nameoflibrary* 01:27 eythian ' 01:27 eythian yeah 01:28 Smurk if i dont sudo, it says -sh koha-rebuild... not found 01:29 Smurk if i sudo, no error on the shell, but zebra doesn't seem to work neither (no search in the catalog) 01:32 eythian that makes sense actually. 01:32 eythian When you say you get no error, do you get anything? 01:33 eythian it should put a lot of information up if you use -v. 01:33 eythian can you paste in the exact command you're using? 01:36 Smurk how do i know for sure if zebra is running? 01:36 Smurk the command I am using is: 01:37 Smurk sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f 01:37 Smurk I don't put any instance name because there aren't any, well I don't think so. 01:37 eythian well there must be, otherwise there is no koha running. 01:37 eythian sudo koha-list will tell you 01:38 Smurk And no, when there is no error on the shell, there is nothing at all. 01:38 Smurk If I do sudo koha-list, the only thing I get is: library 01:38 Smurk what does that mean? 01:38 eythian that means you have once instance called 'library' 01:38 Smurk Ok... 01:39 Smurk (see, I told you I am helpless 01:39 Smurk ) 01:39 eythian :) 01:39 Smurk So I will try again with library. 01:39 eythian at some stage you would have done koha-create library 01:39 eythian yep 01:39 Smurk Ok.... 01:39 Smurk Plenty of things happening! 01:39 eythian that's a good sign 01:40 Smurk The thing is I haven't set up the whole thing, I just took over after. I don't know all these server things. 01:40 eythian ah right 01:40 Smurk When it says "error retrieving biblio no" or "error exporting...", should I care about it? 01:42 eythian can you provide more context? like paste the whole line in (use paste.koha-community.org if it's big) 01:43 Smurk Oops... 01:43 Smurk I tried to copy-paste and it stopped everything. 01:44 Smurk 20601..........................Error exporting record 22583 (biblio) XML at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 359. 01:44 Smurk (for instance) 01:45 Smurk Could it be that I have stopped rebuild-zebra? Maybe I should do it again? It doesn't do anything else now... 01:46 Smurk OK, I have started it again... 01:49 eythian well, what happens after that? 01:49 eythian that's the important part to know if it's stopped (I'd suspect yes though) 01:49 eythian try it with the '-u' option maybe 01:51 Smurk it's in process now 01:51 Smurk what -u would do? 01:52 eythian it uses a different way of exporting the records. 01:52 eythian Has different failure modes to the XML method. 01:53 eythian although it's probably you have something fishy with biblio record 22583 that you should look at. 01:53 eythian *probable 02:01 Smurk Finished but problem with search engine now 02:02 Smurk And there are dozens of errors like the one i copied here 02:04 Smurk records exported 0 ?? 02:09 Smurk trying again with -u 02:35 bag @wunder 93109 02:35 huginn` bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 12.3�C (6:33 PM PST on January 31, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady). 02:35 bag @wunder wellington nz 02:35 huginn` bag: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (3:00 PM NZDT on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). 02:35 bag @wunder 06516 02:35 huginn` bag: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 5.1�C (9:30 PM EST on January 31, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady). 02:50 SpaceLibrarian My word, this has been a bumpy first day back in the saddle. 02:51 Irma Hi Shelley Spacelibrarian :-) 02:51 Irma HNY ! 02:51 SpaceLibrarian Hi Irma! 02:51 SpaceLibrarian HNY! 02:51 Irma well not so new anymore 02:51 SpaceLibrarian Hope you had a lovely festive season. :) 02:52 SpaceLibrarian And a good Australia Day 02:52 Irma our time was focused on my mother and her recovery from major surgery but she and us and CALYX are all doing well again 02:52 SpaceLibrarian That's fantastic to hear. 02:52 Irma VALA2012? R U coming? 02:54 SpaceLibrarian I wish. Will be watching online from afar... 02:55 Irma Thank you .. will catch up at an other event! 02:55 Irma Take care and sparkle on :-) 03:08 Smurk Thanks, eythian ! And bye all! 03:09 SpaceLibrarian Thanks Irma :D 03:24 AmitG heya bag 03:24 bag yo AmitG 03:26 * eythian gets back to building more packages 03:26 AmitG heya Robin 03:26 eythian hello 03:40 SpaceLibrarian Right. Adios. 03:40 AmitG heya SpaceLibrarina 03:48 druthb o/ 04:04 AmitG @wunder Bangalore 04:04 huginn` AmitG: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 16.0�C (8:30 AM IST on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. 04:06 druthb @wunder 66049 04:06 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Near Free State High, Lawrence, Kansas is 6.4�C (9:39 PM CST on January 31, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Steady). 04:18 stuartyeates rangi: how was this morning? i had intended to be there, but somehow never quite made it 04:21 eythian new Koha packages are deploying now folks. 04:22 eythian s/are deploying/have been deployed/ 04:22 bag typos are excepted here eythian 04:22 bag :D 04:22 eythian that wasn't a typo, that was a progress statement 04:23 eythian they uploaded significantly faster than usual, I think our internet may have been upgraded. 04:23 eythian or, not everyone is youtubing at this time of day 05:13 AmitG heya cait 05:13 cait hi AmitG 05:13 cait :) 05:14 bag yo cait 05:14 cait hi bag 05:15 bag alright I'm going to bed 05:15 bag night night 05:16 cait goood night :) 07:02 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2012/02/01/signoff-statistics-for-january-2012/ 07:37 * magnuse promises himself to do more signoffs in february than in january (which shouldn't be too hard) 07:37 magnuse and kia ora #koha 07:51 julian_m hello 07:51 wahanui what's up, julian_m 08:07 asaurat hi 08:08 gaetan_B hello 08:11 magnuse http://americanlibrariesmagazine.org/inside-scoop/why-librarians-don-t-share-code 08:17 paul_p good morning #koha 08:17 magnuse kia ora paul_p 08:18 paul_p bonjour magnuse 08:23 magnuse how did the launch of the sandboxes go yesterday? 08:36 Amit_Gupta heya magnuse 08:38 kf good morning #koha 08:44 magnuse hiya Amit_Gupta and kf 08:45 kf hiya magnuse 08:49 Amit_Gupta heya kf 08:56 kf hi Amit_Gupta 11:07 paul_p very quiet channel today ;-) 11:14 kf hi paul_p 11:14 kf yes, quiet - everyone busy 11:14 paul_p hi kf. 11:14 kf were you able to solve the problem with the self checks? 11:14 paul_p kf switching back to 3.2 made everything work. For instance I haven't digged more :( 11:15 kf 3.2 version? but only for rfid? 11:15 paul_p there's something wrong with FRENCH 3M equipments, we already knew that, but face the problem once again ! 11:15 paul_p yep, SIP server of 3.2 11:15 kf hopefully we will not run into the same problem here 11:15 kf could be the line breaks 11:15 kf that changed 11:15 paul_p I tried that, it seems that's not the only origin of the problem 11:15 kf hm 11:16 paul_p yesterday i concentrated on the sandbox system, that is now just waiting for feedback from early testers before being widely announced. 11:16 kf if we find something, I will let you know 11:16 paul_p it's rewritten the wiki page, added a nice feature (to have information about current sandbox on the sandbox setting page) 11:16 paul_p s/it's/i've/ 11:23 Oak magnuse 11:23 Oak kia ora #koha 11:23 Oak hello miss kf 11:24 kf hi Oak! 11:24 * kf sends cookies 11:24 kf how did your exams go? 11:24 Oak date pushed to 20th February 11:24 kf ah 11:24 Oak yep. 11:25 kf glad or want it to be over? 11:25 Oak want it to be over 11:25 kf understandable 11:25 Oak :) 11:26 * Oak thanks for the cookies 11:34 slef haha. The patches2bugs mailer just failed because of the new statuses. 11:35 slef what are bug statuses? 11:35 slef bugzilla? 11:35 wahanui i heard bugzilla was found at http://bugs.koha-community.org 11:37 slef hrm http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/page.cgi?id=fields.html looks wrong to me 11:48 kf slef: I think we never changed that page - it's still standard 11:48 slef kf: should we file a bug against bugzilla? 11:48 kf hm perhaps we could replace it with a page on the wiki? 11:49 slef I suspect that would be a bigger change to bugzilla code. 11:49 slef Either would be fine, though. 11:49 kf yeah, but perhaps a one time change 11:49 kf and not changing with every new status 11:50 kf *sigh* 11:50 slef I've decided to email bugs if a patch is sent to the patches list and the bug is UNCONFIRMED|NEW|ASSIGNED|REOPENED|In Discussion|Needs Signoff|Failed QA|Patch doesn't apply - that seem sensible? 11:50 kf I am trying to teach koha 11:50 slef cool 11:50 kf tht it should not find a title including missa with a search for missae 11:50 kf and I fail 11:50 slef stemming rules not configured quite right? 11:50 kf nope 11:50 kf I think it's the mappings 11:50 slef not sure how that works OTTOMH though 11:51 kf in word-phrase-utf.chr 11:51 kf something in how it treats ae, ä, a 11:53 slef sounds likely 11:54 kf hm 11:54 kf it might be working now 13:24 oleonard Hi #koha 13:46 oleonard Hi sekjal, how's the new job going? 13:48 kf hi oleonard, hi sekjal 13:49 sekjal hi, oleonard, kf 13:49 sekjal new job is going well 13:49 sekjal getting my office set up is a slow process 13:49 sekjal (this is the third time I've had to install Ubuntu) 13:50 * oleonard is officially fed up with Unity 13:50 sekjal I can't stand Unity; running 10.04 LTS so I don't have to take the time to remove it 13:51 kf I think I got finally used to it - but didn't use Ubuntu so much before it changed 13:52 * oleonard has been trying using Gnome 3 13:52 * sekjal is looking at the library's ILS's mobile site right now 13:53 sekjal it's very much in beta 14:05 slef anyone from bywater alive here? 14:06 slef NateC: just tried to reply to your email, got a "the group you tried to contact may not exist, or you may not have permission to post messages to the group" DSN Failure from Googlemail. 14:06 JesseM yep we all are 14:07 slef JesseM: see comment to NateC ;) 14:07 JesseM got it thanks 14:08 slef as usual, googlemail doesn't report which email address that error is for :-/ 14:08 slef lunch 14:09 bag one of the email address on that list - must just be an internal one ;) 14:09 bag hi slef 14:36 kf jcamins_away: around? 15:46 jcamins kf: Now I am. 15:48 kf ah 15:48 kf good morning :) 15:49 jcamins Good morning. 15:52 * wizzyrea waves 15:53 jcamins Good morning, wizzyrea. 15:53 kf morning wizzyrea :) 15:54 wizzyrea ok guyssss 15:54 wizzyrea what do you think of this: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/circulation/ 15:54 * jcamins hisses. 15:54 wizzyrea also: now taking order for faq questions and answers. 15:54 wizzyrea :P 15:54 jcamins Apparently February 1 is not just the first day of the month, it's also "International talk like a snake" day. 15:55 jcamins Looks good to me. 15:55 wizzyrea O.o 15:56 kf I think perhaps using a list and not italic would make it bit easier to read the list 15:56 kf but you know me... I am weird :) 15:56 kf oh 15:56 wizzyrea oh I'm sure you're right. 15:56 kf ok, I should have clicked the links 15:56 kf that's nice! 15:56 wizzyrea I might be able to have them expanded by default 15:57 wizzyrea do note, the others haven't been ported to the new system yet 15:57 wizzyrea the other faq pages. 15:59 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 15:59 wizzyrea has tho :P 15:59 wizzyrea also with a newly rewritten "my zebra is bustid, help" 16:07 kf wizzyrea++ :) 16:11 jcamins Wow! I signed off the most bugs in January? 16:11 kf yep :) 16:11 kf jcamins++ 16:12 jcamins Cool. 16:12 * oleonard applies a sticker to jcamins on which a rhinoceros exclaims "Good work!" 16:12 jcamins A rhinoceros? 16:13 * chris_n agrees with kf's assessment of the italic text fwiw 16:13 oleonard jcamins: You would prefer a yak? 16:13 sekjal wow, the umich_bib sample MARC record set is.. quite large 16:13 chris_n the list needs an auto-responder which searches for the term "zebra" in mails and responds with a link to the search FAQ 16:14 kf chris_n: actually... that could work 16:14 jcamins sekjal: yeah, pretty great, isn't it? 16:14 sekjal jcamins: might blow out my VM's tiny little harddrive 16:14 sekjal especially if I try to index it 16:14 * chris_n wonders how large large is 16:14 paul_p hi sekjal ! 16:14 sekjal hi, paul_p 16:15 jcamins sekjal: yes, probably would. 16:15 chris_n is it as large as a rhinoceros? 16:15 chris_n or just as large as a yak? 16:15 jcamins sekjal: why are you loading the UMich data? 16:15 sekjal jcamins: building a test database 16:15 * chris_n will now go do something useful 16:16 jcamins sekjal: it does take a lot of disk space. 16:16 sekjal chirs_n: surely there is some kind of correlation between mass and MARC 16:16 jcamins I don't remember how much disk space I used. 16:18 paul_p question to all: BULAC, that uses Koha -with progilone- has a self-registering option on OPAC : http://catalogue.bulac.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-memberentry.pl it's not in community Koha yet or am I missing something ? 16:20 jcamins There's something like that in Koha. 16:20 sekjal jcamins: really? 16:20 oleonard nuh-uh 16:20 jcamins sekjal: isn't there? 16:20 * jcamins looks. 16:20 jcamins No, maybe not. 16:20 sekjal it's been talked about, but never committed 16:20 sekjal too many unanswered questions 16:20 jcamins Oh, never mind. I know of a library that did it in PHP. 16:21 paul_p ok, we will ask progilone to contribute their code ;-) 16:21 jcamins Also called memberentry, but memberentry.php. 16:21 sekjal do users get added directly, or go into a 'temp account' state until approved? What fields should be displayed? What kind of security should be used? etc etc etc 16:21 kf paul_p: I think there is an enh bug for it - lots of people would like to see it :) 16:22 jcamins sekjal: the UMich data is a lot for a test database- what are you testing? 16:22 * oleonard would love to see it 16:22 sekjal jcamins: nothing yet; I need the test DB first 16:23 jcamins sekjal: I meant, what do you have on your hit list that requires that much data. 16:23 jcamins Whatever it is, sounds like a nifty feature. 16:23 sekjal jcamins: that's actually too much data for me 16:23 oleonard Who is BULAC? Are they independent? 16:23 sekjal I need a smaller set 16:23 paul_p oleonard bulac is a very very large french library. 16:23 paul_p they are with progilone 16:24 jcamins sekjal: ah, do what I did and filter out a fun subset. 16:24 hdl1 they have hourly circulation 16:24 jcamins I went for the Islamic manuscripts. 16:24 * oleonard grumbles 16:26 * jcamins curses Worldcat. 16:26 * sekjal is now at an institution that uses Aleph and WorldCat Local.... 16:26 jcamins All the resources of OCLC, and searches for Hebrew don't actually work? 16:26 jcamins Well, Yiddish. 16:27 * jcamins chooses a few choice expletives from the language in question. 16:28 jcamins sekjal: remind them that catalog cards may be slow, but at least if you put the Hebrew in alphabetical order people will be able to find the card they want. 16:29 sekjal brb 16:30 wizzyrea yea tons of people want self registration 16:30 wizzyrea it's a hive of 123's tho :) 16:30 wizzyrea doesn't mean necessarily that we should shy away. 16:31 hdl1 wizzyrea: self registration ok... fine, but without captcha system, suicide. 16:34 wizzyrea captcha is bad. I'm "normal" and I can't get it half the time, must be so frustrating for differently abled people. 16:35 * jcamins isn't normal. :P 16:35 wizzyrea bet you still can't get it right some percentage of the time 16:35 hdl1 wizzyrea: then you will have your user table polluted. 16:35 wizzyrea nah, I think the way it would have to work 16:36 hdl1 wizzyrea: on irc is good, on the wiki would be better. 16:36 wizzyrea ohh kay. 16:36 kf hdl1: I think using a temp table and clean that regularly with a script 16:37 wizzyrea ^^ is what I was thinking. 16:37 wizzyrea but, meh. 16:37 kf and perhaps you could limit it to the ip range of the institution? 16:37 kf as an option? 16:37 gaetan_B bye! 16:37 kf so you could have a self registration station 16:38 wizzyrea ftr, i wasn't saying that you shouldn't have some kind of anti-spam. Just that captcha isn't the right choice. 16:38 oleonard ...and since we haven't solved anit-spam for the cart and lists emails... 16:39 hdl1 there are so many different implementation of captchas. 16:55 magnuse has anyone considered not using the data fields (000,007,008) for displaying information about material type in result lists and detail views, and instead just use the itemtypes from 942$c? 16:56 oleonard Not everyone uses bib-level itemtype 16:56 magnuse i have a library that has been through a couple migrations, use records imported from various source etc, so the data fields a re a mess, but 942$c is relatively trustworthy 16:57 * oleonard sympathizes with the data fields being a mess, his library's too 16:57 jcamins magnuse: that's already possible. 16:57 slef captcha is described better at http://www.textcaptcha.com and anti-spam is even better than captchas 16:57 jcamins Just disable OPACXSLTIcons or whatever it is. 16:57 magnuse it is? with xslt? 16:58 jcamins Then turn on the item time icons. 16:58 jcamins *type 16:58 jcamins Pretty sure that works with XSLT. 16:58 magnuse there's one called DisplayOPACiconsXSLT 16:58 jcamins Right, turn that off. 16:59 jcamins (I think) 16:59 jcamins Then turn on item type images. 16:59 jcamins Barring that, give the span that contains that stuff an id, and use jQuery to remove it. 17:00 jcamins (and turn on item type images) 17:00 rangi paul_p: around? 17:00 paul_p yep, for some minuts 17:00 paul_p (40) 17:01 magnuse jcamins: noItemTypeImages? 17:01 paul_p rangi yep, for some minuts 17:01 rangi cool, i saw you said aleksa is 172 17:01 rangi i think you might have missed the 4 other academy students (you pushed their tests yesterday :)) 17:02 rangi and great timing for aleksa, tomorrow is his last day, then he goes back to school too 17:02 jcamins magnuse: yeah, that's probably the one you have to change. 17:02 magnuse hm, i need to implement DisplayOPACiconsXSLT for NORMARC XSLT... 17:02 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=summary 17:04 rangi also 5327 17:04 magnuse jcamins: hm, i can't seem to find noItemTypeImages in the MARC21 OPAC result-list XSLT 17:04 rangi those db_dependent tests need to be shifted 17:04 rangi because they fail unless the db exists, and when you are running make test as part of the install 17:04 rangi they will fail, because the db does not exist 17:05 rangi all the other tests don't need a database connection 17:05 rangi db_dependent doesnt mean have to have certain data in the db, but that they haave to have connection to the db 17:05 paul_p OK, so db_dependant means "a db access is needed" 17:06 paul_p it means there won't be many tests in t/, as *many* tests relies on database ! 17:06 paul_p (i've no problem with that, it's just a comment) 17:06 jcamins magnuse: it's not used in the XSLT. 17:06 oleonard It's in MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl 17:06 jcamins magnuse: http://donum.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=smith 17:06 jcamins See, there are item-type icons. 17:07 jcamins (also the Type: line, but you're removing that) 17:07 rangi paul_p: those are the only ones that require a db connection in there 17:07 rangi all the other tests in t/ dont 17:08 jcamins Or, maybe it is done by XSLT. oleonard would know. 17:08 rangi and thoses one only snuck in in the last few days :) 17:08 oleonard magnuse: Did you look in MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl ? 17:09 magnuse oleonard: yes, but i can't see noItemTypeImages there? 17:09 oleonard Oh sorry I thought we were still on DisplayOPACiconsXSLT 17:10 magnuse ah, yes i found that - and i need to implement it for normarc 17:10 magnuse but how does jcamins get those big icons to the left of the titles? 17:11 wizzyrea witchcraft! 17:11 magnuse yeah, that would explain it! ;-) 17:11 slef hmmm 20:35-22:50 France 3 Football Marseille / Nice. Coupe de la Ligue. 2e demi-finale 17:12 * oleonard presumes noItemTypeImages is set to "Show" and each biblio has an itemtype set 17:12 magnuse yup 17:13 paul_p slef ? 17:13 wahanui rumour has it slef is an encyclopedia of FOSS knowledge 17:15 paul_p slef (Marseille won the "coupe de la ligue" in 2010, 2011 irrc and is in semi-final for the 2012 edition, yes it's our Marseille, there's only one in France afaik) 17:15 paul_p (I may watch the match while QAing and pushing some bugs. Or have some family time, still undecided ;-) ) 17:16 slef paul_p: just saw that in my tele guide 17:17 oleonard magnuse: You also have to have item-level_itypes set to "biblio record" 17:17 magnuse yeah, i just tried that! 17:18 oleonard Still no luck? 17:18 magnuse yes, changing that displays the big icons that jcamins has! yay! 17:19 magnuse but the description says "Use the item type of the [] as the authoritative item type (for determining circulation and fines rules, etc)." 17:19 slef paul_p: is QA order fixed or can we persuade bug 7476 up the queue? 17:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, aleksa, Signed Off , Files executable that probably should not be 17:19 magnuse so i thought that wouldn't affect the display... 17:20 paul_p slef I usually QA from older to newest. But you can alway drop QA team a mail to ask for up-ing something ! 17:20 oleonard good point magnuse. 17:20 * oleonard is intrigued http://donum.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=189 17:20 slef wahanui: QA team? 17:20 wahanui slef: wish i knew 17:21 paul_p rangi I find only 3 new contributors for history.txt = Bart Jorgensen Jono Mingard and Kate Henderson, am I missing someone ? 17:21 jcamins oleonard: http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/numismatics/ 17:22 slef ok, I suck, who's the QA team and what's their email? ;-) 17:22 slef not on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_Teams 17:23 magnuse oleonard: the documentation describes how item-level_itypes affects the icons 17:23 oleonard jcamins: I thought maybe it was written by the collector: "The greatest group of coins ever gathered by one man, that man being me; by me, Herman Schaden, owner of the greatest group of coins ever gathered by one man. 17:23 jcamins lol 17:24 magnuse lol 17:24 magnuse ...and it belongs to me! 17:24 jcamins slef: sekjal, marcelr, and jdruart. 17:24 jcamins I think. 17:25 magnuse ok, time to make dinner - a million thanks to oleonard and jcamins for pointing me in the right direction! 17:25 slef well, if jcamins is unsure too, I don't feel so bad ;) 17:25 slef this stuff should be documented 17:25 magnus_afk slef: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.8 ? 17:26 * jcamins was telling everyone that magnuse was AQAM, but magnuse says he isn't. 17:26 magnus_afk aqam? 17:26 sekjal slef: jcamins is right about QA team 17:27 jcamins Assistance Quality Assurance Manager. 17:27 magnus_afk ah, Assistant QA Manager - nope, i'm a bug wrangler, and not a very good one at that 17:28 magnus_afk not enough time, bit things are looking better now, slightly 17:28 jcamins :) 17:29 * magnus_afk wanders off 17:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #607 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #605 1 j 19 h ago) 17:31 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: adding 3 contributors from catalyst OpenSource academy <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=563fcd1fd11402d4644b20eef4dbe970ff92f544> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5327' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5900dfff9a455bbb60b33919faa9299843c42fd3> / Bug 5327 - move another test around <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8 17:33 * slef goes to wash up while the guy with the angle grinder keeps disrupting his thoughts 17:34 fredpierre Hey all! I got my mobile Koha changes uploaded at gitorious. Thanks for your good advice yesterday. It took me a while to figure out that I had to stage and commit my changes before I could push them to the repository. 17:34 jcamins Woohoo! 17:34 jcamins fredpierre++ 17:34 wizzyrea :D nice! 17:34 sekjal agreed, fredpierre++ 17:35 wizzyrea fredpierre++ 17:35 oleonard fredpierre: I missed that yesterday. Is there a version online for viewing? 17:35 fredpierre They are posted as project Koha mobile web, repository kohaclone. Is that accessible to others? 17:35 jcamins Not to me. 17:35 wizzyrea oleonard: www.smfpl.org 17:35 wizzyrea I think 17:36 fredpierre Yes, it is online at our website www.smfpl.org, detects for mobile devices and delivers a mobile interface. 17:36 fredpierre There's some customization with our logos and color schemes, but I think others could use the Koha part of it. I used jQuery mobile for the button menus and navigation. 17:38 wizzyrea it's purty. 17:38 jcamins Ah, here we go: https://gitorious.org/koha-mobile-web/kohaclone 17:38 fredpierre Thanks! 17:39 fredpierre The jQuery for mobile is a great framework for mobile development. 17:39 fredpierre Thanks jcamins. So that is accessible to all? 17:39 * rangi has lots of respect for single parents 17:39 jcamins fredpierre: yes. 17:40 fredpierre Excellent. I hope it useful to others. I can e-mail the list if you think it is a good idea. 17:40 rangi laurel has been in hospital since 2pm yesterday, trying to get these 2 ready for school after a restless night sleep ... finally got them eating now 17:40 oleonard Oh no rangi, everything okay? 17:41 rangi bad asthma attack + some kinda chest infection 17:41 wizzyrea :O oh no! 17:42 fredpierre Expressing hope for a speedy recovery! 17:42 wizzyrea ^^ same here 17:42 rangi thanks 17:43 rangi bad timing with first week of school and all, but the kids are coping, its just their dad who needs more sleep :) 17:43 fredpierre My four-year old dug in his heels today and didn't want to go to pre-school. I'm glad my wife was there to help - I was only two minutes late. 17:43 wizzyrea my soon-to-be 4 year old did the same 17:43 wizzyrea must be the phase of the moon 17:43 fredpierre they say a twenty-four minute nap is recommended for a recharge... 17:44 wizzyrea or drink a cup of coffee, then take a nap 17:44 fredpierre ;) 17:44 rangi kahu wants to go to school, but only because he is wearing one of his rugby shirts and is gonna play rugby he says 17:44 rangi whatever works .. ill take it :) 17:44 wizzyrea I wish spud had a magic shirt 17:44 wizzyrea that made him want to go to school 17:45 rangi get him a rugby shirt :) 17:45 * oleonard knocks furiously on wood considering his kids don't fight going to school 17:45 oleonard Now putting on their shoes, on the other hand... 17:46 rangi ahh, our cat helps with that 17:46 rangi she loves to pounce on nice pink toes 17:46 fredpierre good motivator 17:46 rangi so getting socks on is easy 17:48 moodaepo fredpierre++ 17:53 rangi fredpierre++ 17:53 rangi jcamins++ 17:54 jcamins rangi: what did I do? 17:54 * paul_p knocks on wood too... 17:54 paul_p and leave to go back home ;-) 17:54 paul_p bye & see you tomorrow ! 17:55 wizzyrea I would love to meet paul_p's kids someday - I bet they are charming. 17:55 rangi jcamins: encouraged fredpierre to put up a git repository 17:55 jcamins rangi: ah, yes. 17:55 jcamins Seemed like a good idea. 17:56 rangi :) 17:57 rangi @later tell paul_p you missed Jorgia Kelsey want me to send a patch? 17:57 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded. 17:59 rangi hmm and Peter Lorimer is new too? 17:59 wizzyrea I thought he was in there. 18:00 rangi cant see him 18:00 wizzyrea hmmm 18:00 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=docs/history.txt;h=3823a8e1c95ebc1f4420039919b1036197624d30;hb=563fcd1fd11402d4644b20eef4dbe970ff92f544 18:00 rangi sanity check in case im blind 18:01 wizzyrea hm, no it's not there 18:01 rangi @later tell paul_p Peter Lorimer too (not a catalyst academy student :)) 18:01 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded. 18:02 rangi aleksa++ 18:03 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=8eb727d671f8a264afb3e978a9046c151ed072a9 <-- pretty darn good for a high school student doing some work over the school holidays 18:03 rangi and you should see this 18:04 wizzyrea aleksa++ 18:04 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=7392 18:07 jcamins Very cool. 18:07 jcamins cait will be happy. 18:12 cait_____ hm? 18:13 cait_____ what will i be happy about? 18:14 jcamins aleksa's patch for bug 7392. 18:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7392 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Add system preference to configure export options for OPAC detail page 18:14 jcamins No, attachment 7392. 18:14 huginn` 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=7392&action=edit patch, Translate scripts now handle javascript variables inside strings., 0001-Bug-7327-Translate-scripts-now-handle-javascript-var.patch 18:16 jcamins cait_____: Chester says hi. 18:16 jcamins Also, fwoomph! (that was the sound of him shedding) 18:17 * jcamins doesn't think this is what people mean when they say they are "wearing a hair shirt" 18:18 cait hi #koha 18:19 rangi wb cait 18:19 wizzyrea hi cait :) 18:19 cait jcamins: yep it makes me happy - already started testing :) 18:19 cait and say hi back to chester and pat him from me 18:20 rangi aleksa asked yesterday if he could keep working on Koha when he finished his holiday job this week 18:20 jcamins aleksa++ 18:20 rangi another one hooked :) 18:20 cait yaay! 18:20 wizzyrea :D 18:20 cait aleksa++ 18:21 jcamins Hey... I bet he's always wanted to understand authorities. Just point him in the direction of bug 7284. ;) 18:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements 18:21 * jcamins looks around for more people to point it out to. 18:22 jcamins Ooh, I bet schuster wants to test it. 18:22 rangi hehe 18:22 jcamins I'll tell him next time I see him. 18:22 rangi chrisdothall is gonna test it today 18:22 rangi what i had him do 18:22 jcamins Woohoo! 18:22 rangi was use the old script 18:22 jcamins chrisdothall++ 18:23 rangi now he is gonna try the fixed/new one 18:23 rangi and report the differences 18:23 rangi for a brand new batch of authorities 18:23 jcamins Sounds like a good idea. 18:23 wizzyrea jcamins - don't spose we could get a standardized test plan? (or did I miss it) 18:23 jcamins wizzyrea: you surely can. I will work on one. 18:24 jcamins I wasn't expecting the version of the patch that's attached to the bug to be the final one. 18:24 jcamins (so I was going to add a test plan with the final patch) 18:25 jcamins But it turns out that it handles everything we could think of to throw at it. 18:25 cait jcamins++ :) 18:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #607: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/607/ 18:25 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_6488: Take in account opachiddenitems when searching in opac 18:25 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_6210: Select framework if merging two records with different frameworks 18:25 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 6210 - Follow up, Choose framework on merge 18:25 jenkins_koha * peter: Bug 6539 - When searching the catalogue, if I get no results then hit the Z39.50 search the title field in the pop up window is populated with what I searched for. 18:25 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6539 follow-up, fixing wrong indentation 18:25 jenkins_koha * aleksa: Bug 6631: Anonymous users can create lists in OPAC 18:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6210 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Choose framework on Merge 18:25 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 6631 follow-up adding author in contributors list 18:25 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Shifting a db dependent test to the right place 18:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6539 minor, P3, ---, peter.lorimer, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 Search ISBN Field Populated with title 18:25 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 5327 - move another test around 18:25 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: adding 3 contributors from catalyst OpenSource academy 18:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6631 major, P5 - low, ---, aleksa, Pushed to Master , Unrestricted creation of lists by anonymous users 18:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P3, ---, sam-sanders, Signed Off , Unit tests required for all C4 modules 18:25 wizzyrea yay for test plans 18:25 wizzyrea jcamins++ 18:26 rangi hmm 18:26 jcamins I probably won't be able to attach it to the bug until tonight. 18:26 wizzyrea that's ok 18:27 rangi hmm lemme see if i can quickly fix those tests before taking the kids to school 18:30 cait wizzyrea++ 18:31 wizzyrea ?! 18:31 wizzyrea what? 18:32 rangi hmm or not,too tricky for this time of the morning, maybe later today 18:32 cait wizzyrea: configurable slips :) 18:33 wizzyrea ohhhhh 18:33 wizzyrea does anyone else have an opinion about how best to handle the CSS modificaiton piece? 18:33 wizzyrea I think it should probably be more like opacusercss 18:34 wizzyrea instead of in the file system 18:34 wizzyrea but - i'm willing to let it be refined - 18:34 rangi yeah, kaizen and all that 18:34 wizzyrea it works the way it's coded now :) 18:35 cait kaizen? 18:35 sekjal wizzyrea: I'd like to see all the CSS accessible and editable in the staff client 18:35 wizzyrea yea, same here. 18:35 rangi cait: small continuous improvement 18:35 cait aah 18:35 cait thx :) 18:35 rangi vs huge never ever get finished cos its scope creeped to death monolithic pieces of work 18:35 slef not sure about that but I'm happy to see more CSS editable in wiki 18:35 cait wizzyrea: sign-off and file an enh bug? 18:36 wizzyrea yep, that's the plan 18:36 sekjal perhaps with a WYSIWYG editor on top, so folks can verify syntax 18:36 wizzyrea that would be cool :) 18:36 sekjal ooh, and SASS! 18:36 wizzyrea for this particular thing - the CSS is also still global 18:36 slef sekjal: trouble is that WYSIWYG editors are impossible. It's WYSIWYM not WYSIWYG. 18:36 slef 18:36 wizzyrea it should be per branch. 18:37 wizzyrea again, that can be refined. 18:37 wizzyrea my testers ( the other funders of the bug) agreed on that point too. 18:37 sekjal wizzyrea: at least per branch; perhaps also per branch/patron category 18:37 slef wizzyrea: could it work with just a branch class on a high level (body?) that could then be selected by the CSS? 18:38 wizzyrea slef that is especially brilliant. 18:38 rangi bbiab 18:38 wizzyrea (really) 18:38 wizzyrea that's a great idea. 18:38 cait slef++ 18:38 cait it really is 18:39 wizzyrea i can think of lots of applications for that approach, actually. 18:39 cait wizzyrea: doe s it use the intranetcss file? 18:39 cait or only it's own? 18:39 wizzyrea no, it doesn't 18:39 cait ah 18:39 cait because 18:39 slef wizzyrea: the idea of having CSS in the branch properties worries me but I can't put my finger on why. 18:39 cait then it would be really easy 18:40 wizzyrea well yea, but the rationale for not doing that 18:40 wizzyrea was that it wouldn't be fast enough 18:40 cait if the separate css was only an option 18:40 slef I mean a CSS editable. 18:40 wizzyrea if you had a lot of stuff in your intranetusercss 18:40 cait slef: we don't edit the files - it's in the database 18:40 wizzyrea but 18:40 wizzyrea I'm going to sign off on this the way it is 18:40 wizzyrea as it's functional. 18:43 cait mmh warm bread 18:44 wizzyrea noms 18:44 wizzyrea I'd like to stress that I believe this dev should be *refined* not changed now. 18:47 cait :) 18:47 cait oh question 18:47 cait do you have to change something? or will it provide some default templates similar to our current templates? 18:48 cait and did you test putting in some diacritics? :) 18:49 wizzyrea cait, would you mind checking it for special characters/translation stuff? 18:49 wizzyrea I know you're terribly busy 18:50 wizzyrea actually, I think I can cover special characters, but translation things... 18:50 wizzyrea less easy for me bc I don't know what I'm looking for :( 18:50 cait good thing to check is 18:50 cait if javascript alerts are wrapped in _() 18:50 wizzyrea k, no alerts in this that I'm aware of. 18:51 cait and if a book with diacritics in title shows up on the slips correctly perhaps 18:51 wizzyrea k I can check that quickly :) 18:53 wizzyrea pretty sure you can't get more special character than this: http://screencast.com/t/nrBD0PR1N 18:54 jcamins wizzyrea: Hebrew/Arabic? I think that's still LtR. 18:54 wizzyrea hrm ok, again! 18:55 cait heh 18:55 jcamins wizzyrea: for copy and paste purposes: http://donum.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=176805 18:55 cait but it looks nice :) 18:56 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/7nZ7ZzDjf 18:58 jcamins Hm, that doesn't have the Arabic in the title I guess. 18:59 wizzyrea no, I don't think it does 18:59 * wizzyrea goes to look for something french :P 18:59 jcamins I'm sure French will work. The question is about actual Arabic characters. 19:00 jcamins Maybe just copy and paste the vernacular into 245? 19:00 jcamins If it's too much trouble, I'm not too bothered about this, just trying to help you be complete. 19:00 wizzyrea :) 19:01 wizzyrea deeerp I read the wrong thing 19:01 wizzyrea stupid left to right english eyes. 19:01 wizzyrea either way, it works :) 19:02 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/ysoAJpkO 19:02 jcamins Beautiful! 19:02 wahanui Beautiful! is, like, that a "moving to jquery (ui)" thing 19:02 cait heh 19:02 cait yep 19:02 cait it is 19:02 cait beautiful 19:03 wizzyrea quick slip is ok too... checking notices 19:08 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/6WR7jxsKTl5w looks like they are golden 19:09 cait :) 19:10 cait do you see them in the notices tab on the account page too? 19:10 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/emiOOGxWxizS 19:11 cait so nice 19:27 Space_Librarian morning #koha 19:28 Space_Librarian @wunder Wellington, NZ 19:28 huginn` Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on February 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 19:28 cait morning Space_Librarian 19:28 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:29 Space_Librarian morning cait 19:29 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:29 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -5.3�C (8:24 PM CET on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Steady). 19:29 cait yeah 19:29 cait that feels like winter now 19:32 * rangi takes kids to school 19:32 rangi bbl 19:32 wizzyrea gl 19:33 Space_Librarian O.o 19:33 Space_Librarian Morning wizzyrea :) 19:33 wizzyrea mornin 19:38 francharb hi 19:40 cait hi francharb :) 19:41 fredpierre Hello from Ohio! 19:42 cait hi fredpierre :) 19:42 fredpierre We had some puppet problems today, finally found bug 6374, solved my puppet "size" problem! 19:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6374 normal, P3, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Use "size" as names/hash keys leads to an unexpected results when using Template::Toolkit (name of a virtual method there) 19:45 cait hi aleksa 19:45 cait :) 19:45 aleksa hi cait 19:47 jcamins Hm. No oleonard. 19:47 jcamins I was going to ask if he'd ever used XForms, and what he thought of it. 19:48 jcamins Has anyone here used XForms? 19:49 cait1 not even heard of it :( 19:49 * jcamins had heard of it vaguely, but doesn't really know anything about it. 19:52 cait ok 19:52 cait going to put some more ram into this laptop... wish me luck :) 19:52 magnuse good luck cait 19:53 cait1 thx :) 19:53 jcamins Good luck. 19:56 * rangi decides to try to work from home 19:56 jcamins rangi: why's that? 19:57 rangi cos i have a 3 year old here with me :) 19:57 * wizzyrea waves at ata 19:57 rangi the 5 year old is at school 19:57 * wizzyrea envisions lots of pocoyo in rangi's future 19:57 jcamins Ah. 19:57 * jcamins waves to Ata. 19:57 * magnuse waves to Ata 19:58 jcamins rangi: you should set him up hacking on Koha. :) 19:58 wizzyrea I tried that with spud once 19:58 wizzyrea he was super good at special characters. 19:58 rangi heh 19:59 magnuse ooh, that's handy when you're programming in perl... ;-) 19:59 * cait1 waves at Ata 20:00 jcamins magnuse: even more handy when you're programming in APL. ;) 20:00 * magnuse googles apl 20:00 * jcamins never really got into APL programming. 20:01 * jcamins has apparently dated the books he used to learn programming. 20:01 jcamins ;) 20:01 magnuse x[â‹xâ†6?40] 20:01 jcamins Also, the father of one of my friends growing up was one of the developers for APL2000. 20:02 magnuse that would take some getting used to... 20:02 magnuse ooh, cool! 20:05 cait back :) 20:05 cait it didn't explode 20:05 cait I will take that as a good sign :) 20:05 jcamins RAM all installed? 20:05 cait yep 20:05 cait was easy :) 20:05 cait only the first time I used a screwdriver on my shiny new laptop 20:06 cait well... not really so shiny any more.... 20:39 jcamins magnuse: perhaps there should be a separate syspref for the item type image. 20:39 jcamins Would that make sense? 20:40 Space_Librarian it does from the cheap seats. 20:42 cait item type images where? 20:42 * magnuse just reported a bug for that too ;-) 20:42 * magnuse gotta run! 20:42 cait because I think we have 2 sysprefs,... one for the small images in records and one for the authorized values in general 20:43 jcamins Excellent. 20:43 jcamins cait: the item type images on the left in the search results. 20:43 jcamins Not the ones in XSLT. 20:43 cait on the left... hm. 20:43 cait on the left? 20:44 cait for biblio level itypes? 20:44 jcamins http://donum.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=smith 20:44 jcamins Right. 20:44 Space_Librarian jcamins: that looks good. 20:45 cait oh 20:45 cait analytics :) 20:45 cait jcamins: I think it shoudl be a syspref 20:46 cait will not work for libraries not using the bilbio level itypes 20:46 * libsysguy would like google analytics integration 20:46 libsysguy heard analtyics 20:46 libsysguy maybe a syspref for your google id 20:47 jcamins cait: right, I'm saying there should be a syspref other than item-level_Itypes 20:47 jcamins libsysguy: someone submitted a patch for that. 20:47 cait libsysguy: i would hate it 20:47 cait libsysguy: I have enough trouble with covers and other things - don't need google in there too :( 20:47 libsysguy really cait? 20:47 cait yep 20:47 wizzyrea no, if we do analytics integration we should do it with piwik :P 20:48 cait and oyu can already do it I think, putting the code in one of the sys prefs 20:48 sekjal libsysguy: I think you could just add the code to the opaccredits, right? 20:48 cait yep 20:48 wizzyrea plus, you can already do it using opacuserjs 20:48 cait or that 20:48 wizzyrea or any of the other user editable 20:48 libsysguy yeah thats how I do it now 20:48 * jcamins heads out. 20:48 wizzyrea bits and bobs. 20:48 sekjal would be interesting to see OPAC usage patterns 20:48 wizzyrea it *is* interesting to see opac usage patterns 20:48 libsysguy i use it for search terms 20:49 rangi another 24 hours at least 20:49 * sekjal 's new OPAC is on a separate Google Analytics account from everything else, and the common discovery layer isn't analyzed at all 20:50 wizzyrea what is another 24 hours? 20:50 * Space_Librarian looks interested 20:50 * wizzyrea whispers piwik.... piwik.... 20:51 * oleonard thinks wizzyrea is mimicking the sound of water drips in her dungeon cell 20:51 * Space_Librarian agrees with oleonard 20:51 wizzyrea I have a dungeon? 20:51 wizzyrea sweet! 20:52 Space_Librarian thought you'd like that 20:52 sekjal okay, I'm out for the day. cheers, #koha 20:54 cait magnus_afk: about bug 7490 - I think I did that - for MARC21 20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7490 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add IDs to results_summary'ies in staff XSLT detail view 20:55 magnus_afk cait: not that i can see? 20:56 cait hm weird 20:56 cait let me find the bug 20:56 oleonard cait: Was it only in the OPAC? 20:57 cait bug 6901 20:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6901 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Add CSS classes/ids to OPAC and staff XSLT views 20:57 cait nope both 20:57 * oleonard sees that you're right 20:58 oleonard "<span class="results_summary series">" 20:58 cait was wondering if magnus looked at normarc 20:58 rangi piwik.koha-community.org 21:02 rangi i set that up, for koha libraries to use, if ppl want an account, let me know 21:02 rangi its only doing the main koha site and nekls at the moment 21:02 rangi consider this a soft launch :) 21:03 cait :) 21:04 francharb see ya 21:06 Space_Librarian rangi: thanks fantastic! 21:09 Space_Librarian that's* 21:10 rangi :) 21:10 wizzyrea I've been using it, i think it's fab. 21:18 oleonard Bye #koha 21:36 magnus_afk rangi++ 21:37 Space_Librarian rangi ++ I may talk to you about using it here... 21:38 cait rangi++ 21:38 cait :) 21:38 eythian rangi: why is there beer on my desk, do you know? 21:38 * magnus_afk has piwik set up and will offer it to his customers soon 21:39 eythian not that it's a bad thing, I'm just curious. 21:40 cait lol 21:40 rangi hmm wasnt me 21:40 rangi what type of beer is it? 21:41 Space_Librarian eythian - we owe you beer here, so there may be more on it's way. When I've got the bottom on the mapping madness. 21:41 eythian rangi: 4 different craft stouts 21:41 eythian Space_Librarian: :D 21:41 rangi ohh, hmm no idea 21:42 eythian maybe it's compensation for 3 weeks in auckland 21:42 rangi could be 21:42 Space_Librarian eythian: NP - if it's been an interesting 24 hours for me, I can imagine what you've had to deal with. 21:42 eythian I guess you're getting in at the deep end :) 21:43 Space_Librarian somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic. 21:45 wizzyrea cait you still up ? 21:45 cait yeah 21:46 wizzyrea you like these better expanded? 21:46 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 21:46 cait trying to write something clever about 'datenträgeraustausch' for my distance study 21:46 cait hm 21:46 eythian date rage sounds like a bad thing. 21:46 cait I like the styling of the questions better 21:46 wizzyrea :) 21:46 cait but not sure about expanded or not 21:46 cait if we show them expaned... the big win of finding your question faster is gone 21:47 wizzyrea yea that's what I was thinking 21:47 wizzyrea so 21:47 wizzyrea I just wanted to hear someone else say what I was thinking >.> 21:47 wizzyrea if you refresh 21:47 wizzyrea they should be back to collapsed 21:48 cait hmmm 21:48 cait there is a searching 21:48 cait that shouldn't be there I think 21:48 cait but else... I like :) 21:49 magnus_afk welcome back eythian - i'll send you the summary of my experience rebasing the l10n work on 3.6..x one of these days :-) 21:49 eythian magnus_afk: awesome :) 21:49 wizzyrea cait - which? 21:49 cait the small one above the list 21:49 wizzyrea oh. yea, I was just looking at that, it's part of the plugin. 21:50 cait oh 21:50 wizzyrea digging it out now 21:50 cait could we use it to have different sections? 21:50 eythian magnus_afk: I'd hoped to work on it when I was away, but work up there was pretty draining, so I didn't really have the energy. 21:50 cait perhaps should be a bit more prominent then 21:50 cait and not the same as the headline 21:50 wizzyrea technically we could have all of the faq's on one page 21:50 wizzyrea sec, demonstration. 21:51 magnus_afk eythian: no worries, i got it to work and there were only a couple of small "things" 21:51 cait small "things" looks suspicious 21:51 cait I would hide if I was eythian 21:52 cait germs* 21:52 cait germs? 21:52 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 21:52 eythian magnus_afk: cool 21:52 eythian cait: haha 21:52 cait wizzyrea: could we number them? 21:52 cait wizzyrea: so you could say, hey, check searching faq, numbe 123 21:54 wizzyrea ok sorry, refresh http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/faqs/ 21:54 wizzyrea that has sadly very little organization 21:54 wizzyrea but, is atomically searchable. 21:55 wizzyrea but, gimme just a min. 21:56 fredpierre I like those FAQs! 21:57 magnus_afk g'night #koha 21:57 eythian bye magnus_away 21:58 wizzyrea refresh again http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/faqs/ 21:58 fredpierre I'm going home, one more promo for our Koha mobile web, hosted at gitorious - https://gitorious.org/koha-mobile-web#more 21:59 wizzyrea :D 21:59 fredpierre I enjoyed my first day on the koha channel. Y'all rock! - Fred from Ohio 22:00 wizzyrea come back and play another day! 22:00 fredpierre will do! 22:00 wizzyrea cait - I suppose I could number them, or more likely make the plugin number them for me (because I'm terribly lazy) 22:02 wizzyrea warning I'm about to break te faq :P 22:04 wizzyrea ...oh, never mind. I like it when an idea works about right the first time. Heh. 22:06 Space_Librarian wizzyrea - awesome! :) 22:07 wizzyrea I have yet things to break! 22:07 * wizzyrea laughs evilly 22:07 cait wizzyrea: now we have 2 searching 22:07 cait hm 3 22:07 wizzyrea cait: probably not the time to be looking carefully at it 22:08 wizzyrea as i'm muckin aobut with it 22:08 cait ah ok 22:08 * cait looks away 22:08 wizzyrea :) 22:29 cait @wunder Konstanz 22:29 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -5.8�C (11:24 PM CET on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady). 22:30 Judit hi 22:30 eythian hi Judit 22:30 cait hi Judit 22:30 cait and good night #koha :) 22:32 eythian bye cait 22:34 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks 22:34 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 16.8�C (4:32 PM CST on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Steady). 22:34 wizzyrea in january, that's crazy talk. 22:34 Judit it is 20here 22:34 wizzyrea normal for you though, right? 22:34 collum Yep. My grass is growing 22:34 Judit in febr??? 22:34 Space_Librarian cold for sydney, wizzyrea 22:35 Space_Librarian hey Judit! :) 22:35 Judit hi 22:35 collum @wunder 41017 22:35 wizzyrea what's the normal temp for sydney? 22:35 huginn` collum: The current temperature in Van Aachen, Erlanger, Kentucky is 15.1�C (5:34 PM EST on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). 22:35 wizzyrea for feb 1 22:35 wizzyrea last year it was snowing gobs and gobs. 22:35 Judit 40 22:35 wizzyrea golly 22:36 wizzyrea 40 is about the same as summer here 22:37 wizzyrea a hottish day in summer 22:37 bag @wunder 93109 22:37 huginn` bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.2�C (2:36 PM PST on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady). 22:37 wizzyrea so yea, you're too cold and we're too hot 22:37 wizzyrea :) 22:37 wizzyrea and bag is in a microcosm of perfect. 22:38 wizzyrea uh, thunderstorms here, on friday?! that seems ... weird. 22:38 drojf @wunder berlin 22:38 huginn` drojf: Error: No such location could be found. 22:38 drojf pff 22:38 drojf berlin is too small :) 22:38 maximep @wunder cyqb 22:38 huginn` maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -7.0�C (5:00 PM EST on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Rising). 22:38 wizzyrea @wunder berlin, germany 22:38 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -9.0�C (11:13 PM CET on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: 30.69 in 1039.2 hPa (Steady). 22:38 drojf thanks wizzyrea 22:39 drojf i win 22:39 * wizzyrea assumed germany 22:39 drojf i win santa clause. or something :( 22:39 maximep oooooh somewhere colder than here 22:39 wizzyrea ok so rain for 2 days and then ... snow 22:39 wizzyrea and then back up into the teens? wtf is wrong with our weather. 22:40 Space_Librarian wunder @wellington, new zealand 22:40 wizzyrea @wunder wellington, nz 22:40 Space_Librarian meh rusty brain lol 22:40 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 02, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 22:40 wizzyrea colder there than here! 22:40 Space_Librarian thank wizzyrea 22:40 Space_Librarian it is. Pretty chilly to work this morning. 22:41 wizzyrea http://graphical.weather.gov/sectors/centplains.php?element=MaxT 22:41 * jcamins_away peers in. 22:46 * drojf wonders if the import script will ever work 22:46 wizzyrea ? 22:47 drojf my script to convert our data from an evil filemaker database to marc21 22:47 wizzyrea oh :) 22:47 * jcamins_away hides. 22:49 wizzyrea actually, I ditched the idea of separate pages for each category of the faq - not enough to necessitate that 22:49 wizzyrea they're all on one page now 22:51 jcamins Makes sense to me. 22:51 wizzyrea if you come up with anymore, let me know 22:51 * jcamins will be sure to do so. 22:51 wizzyrea eythian - a thought - wahanui keeps lots of faq's 22:52 wizzyrea a way to get a dump of his memory so I can poke through it for faqs? 22:52 jcamins wahanui: help? 22:52 wizzyrea graphicsmagick? 22:52 wahanui rumour has it graphicsmagick is avaliable in package form for the following Operating Systems: Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, 1.3.5 in Sid and Ubuntu Lucid. Regarding the update message, all Koha functions still work even if you only have Version 1.1.11 22:52 wizzyrea like that one 22:54 * jcamins pokes vigorously at CollectiveAccess. 22:54 eythian wizzyrea: I don't know. I'm sure it's possible somehow. 22:55 wizzyrea well no particular hurry. 22:55 * eythian has a quick look 22:55 wizzyrea poke at it if you get a wild hair or need a fluffy project to rest your mind on. 22:57 jcamins "A system for cataloguing fossil egg shells." 22:57 eythian I'm going to take wahanui offline temporarily to try something 22:57 eythian bye wahanui 22:57 jcamins I would not have thought that would be needed very often. 22:58 Space_Librarian I'm always concerned when eythian starts playing with the bots... 22:58 eythian hello wahanui 23:00 eythian wizzyrea: check your email for some bedtime reading 23:01 eythian i assume title? 23:01 eythian wahanui: i assume title 23:01 wahanui eythian: what? 23:01 eythian hmm odd 23:01 eythian I think there's stuff in there that isn't readily accessible 23:01 eythian wahanui: perlvar 23:01 wahanui i guess perlvar is very interesting 23:02 eythian wahanui: wizzyrea the maser of all that 23:02 wahanui i guess wizzyrea the maser of all that is wiki 23:02 eythian hehe 23:02 eythian you're a maser 23:02 Space_Librarian nice one. 23:04 eythian 867-5309 23:04 wahanui 867-5309 is the loneliest number. 23:04 eythian tall paul 23:04 wahanui tall paul is tall 23:04 * jcamins catalogs his cat. 23:06 Judit :) 23:06 Judit you stick a barcode on her? 23:06 eythian wahanui: wahanui 23:06 wahanui i am probably a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow. 23:06 eythian wahanui: melia 23:06 wahanui I LIKE BEER AND I LOVE ANSWERING RFP 23:07 jcamins Judit: right now I'm trying to figure out how to add a picture. 23:07 melia heh 23:07 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing 23:07 wahanui eythian: i haven't a clue 23:07 eythian wahanui: what \is the saddest thing 23:07 wahanui eythian: i haven't a clue 23:08 eythian wahanui: the saddest thing 23:08 wahanui eythian: huh? 23:08 eythian hmm 23:08 Judit jcamins: try googlejackets with the isbn:) 23:09 jcamins Judit: heh. I'm using CollectiveAccess. 23:11 eythian wahanui: the saddest thing is <reply>⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW 23:11 wahanui OK, eythian. 23:11 eythian wahanui: the saddest thing 23:11 wahanui ⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW 23:21 jcamins Yay! 23:21 jcamins I managed to upload an image! 23:44 jcamins Woohoo! I managed to get the public interface working, too! 23:45 Judit the cats public interface??? 23:45 jcamins The public interface for the catalog of cats. 23:46 jcamins Actually... 23:46 jcamins That's a great idea. 23:46 jcamins I will catalog dozens of cats in Refbase, Koha, CollectiveAccess, and possibly Omeka. 23:47 jcamins That will demonstrate the differences. 23:49 Judit poor cats:/ what shelving location? 23:49 jcamins Judit: http://screencast.com/t/4CUepL5hqKq 23:50 jcamins The shelving location is "French dictionary." 23:50 jcamins ;) 23:50 Judit :D