Time  Nick            Message
23:52 wizzyrea        hmmmm good pt
23:52 rangi           you probably have to recreate the .po file and translate the newly available translatable strings or something, but yeah id check with her
23:51 wizzyrea        hmm will have to ask kf about that tomorrow - I must be doing something wrong.
23:34 wizzyrea        not important
23:34 wizzyrea        nvm
23:32 slef            hrm?
23:32 wizzyrea        probably easier to spot mistranslations in german ;)
23:30 slef            Koha hat deine Speisegericht gegessen.
23:28 rangi           :)
23:26 * wizzyrea      is installing the en-NZ translation now for testing that bug. Maybe I'll be plucky and install german too.
23:04 rangi           hope it helps
23:04 rangi           cool
23:04 slef            thanks (I've another project saying, more-or-less, waah we have infringers extorting from us but there's no point in asking for money to fight it because no-one will give us money... so I'll point to HLT as a give-it-a-try counter-example)
23:02 rangi           afaik
23:02 slef            NZD?
23:02 rangi           http://koha-community.org/update-2/
23:02 rangi           12k
23:02 rangi           yup
23:01 rangi           deadline is approaching fast so we should find out how that money was spent soon
23:01 rangi           lemme look
23:01 rangi           yeah i think so
23:01 slef            is it public how much HLT raised last year when threatened?
23:00 wizzyrea        oo
23:00 rangi           :)
23:00 huginn`         04Bug 7327: normal, P5 - low, ---, aleksa, Needs Signoff , Translation script doesn't like concatenated javascript strings
23:00 rangi           http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7327
23:00 rangi           well check this out
23:00 rangi           ahh
22:59 wizzyrea        i miss my hellos :)
22:55 rangi           ?
22:54 wizzyrea        that's what I get for not paying attention
22:53 wizzyrea        wow
22:53 wizzyrea        oh hello :)
22:47 Judit           morning
22:40 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7460 minor, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, ASSIGNED , nl2br in opac Title notes tab
22:40 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7446 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , Redundant display of availablecount in staff client (results.tt)
22:40 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly
22:40 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7350 normal, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , In New order the "+" button duplicates input text but not the "selected" in ddl
22:40 jenkins_koha    * stephane.delaune: Bug 7460: Add template toolkit's FILTER html_line_break on opac details description's tab
22:40 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7359 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace
22:40 jenkins_koha    * ruth: Bug 7446: Redundant display of availablecount in results.tt in staff client.
22:40 jenkins_koha    * oleonard: Bug 3806 - Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly
22:40 jenkins_koha    * christophe.croullebois: Bug 7350: In neworderempty.pl duplicating an item does not preserve select box selections
22:40 jenkins_koha    * cnighswonger: Bug 7359 - Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace
22:40 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #605: SUCCESS in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/605/
22:38 hdl1            bye
22:36 rangi           hi wizzyrea
22:26 eythian         bye cait
22:26 cait            good night #koha
22:26 cait            morning eythian
22:24 wahanui         hi, eythian
22:24 eythian         hi
22:17 magnuse         g'night #koha
21:46 jenkins_koha    Starting build #605 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
21:41 huginn`         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7460: Add template toolkit's FILTER html_line_break on opac details description... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e824f847b9a002dec24b48f076ce2b7d4a9dd5d5> / Bug 7446: Redundant display of availablecount in results.tt in staff client. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ea42998cb28549e1dee5aab8f7e446ef80dc39c> / Bug 3806 - Holidays table doesn't order by d
21:40 cait            night paul_p
21:37 paul_p          bye #koha
21:37 paul_p          patch pushed. Time to go to bed ;-)
21:35 cait            not that late!
21:35 cait            heh
21:35 jcamins         Pretty late in Konstanz, too, I think.
21:30 slef            ok, final mail check and I'm going to fall over too
21:30 slef            sent
21:29 cait            bye oleonard
21:29 oleonard        quitting time, back tomorrow. Or the next day.
21:28 rangi           meeting time, bbiab
21:27 slef            yeah
21:27 cait            I think perhaps drop gmcharlt a short mail?
21:26 slef            but then I can't talk because I've still not published the patches2bugs bot
21:20 schuster        ok thanks all...
21:20 slef            I give up.
21:19 slef            bwahahaha http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars#Channel_Bots has no more info
21:19 librarygeekadam thanks!
21:19 slef            schuster: probably.
21:19 schuster        good stuff there...
21:19 cait            librarygeekadam: there should be a description in the manual :)
21:18 wahanui         documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
21:18 cait            documentation?
21:18 librarygeekadam does anyone have a good webpage on uploading marc records to koha?
21:18 schuster        so I should be in the master/origin branch when I pull to get all the new stuff?
21:17 rangi           by default a git pull = git fetch + git merge
21:17 rangi           you have to be on the branch you want to merge into
21:17 rangi           yes
21:16 schuster        when I run git pull do I have to be in any particular branch when I do that?  showing his stupidity still.
21:14 * slef          deduplicates
21:14 slef            Ah, I was on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration#IRC_bot_.28huginn.29
21:13 wahanui         bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
21:13 oleonard        bots?
21:13 cait            ^^
21:13 oleonard        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars#Channel_Bots
21:13 cait            slef: the wiki knows :)
21:13 huginn`         slef: downloading the Perl source
21:13 slef            huginn`: where's your source code?
21:12 oleonard        Yes
21:12 slef            who used to? huginn`?
21:12 cait            ah
21:11 oleonard        Not since the latest bug status overhaul slef
21:10 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Files executable that probably should not be
21:10 slef            bug 7476
21:10 slef            do Needs Signoff bugs not get announced here any more or am I just being impatient? ;-)
21:08 cait            slef++ :)
21:08 rangi           slef++ #for the test script
21:03 * oleonard      will be very glad when we are rid of it
21:00 slef            both of the above?
21:00 * oleonard      would guess "YUI is out to get you"
20:59 * jcamins       would guess "by mistake"
20:58 slef            why does koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/imageloader/imageloader.js have a stack of NULs on its end?
20:54 librarygeekadam i kept redoing everything and kept getting the same result
20:54 librarygeekadam thank you!
20:54 librarygeekadam ok
20:54 rangi           n
20:54 rangi           you can safely ignore that then, it will be fixed soo
20:53 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7359 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace
20:53 jcamins         Yup. Bug 7359 strikes!
20:53 librarygeekadam yeah
20:53 rangi           thats the only one that fails?
20:53 librarygeekadam Result: Fail
20:53 librarygeekadam Parse Errors: bad plan. You planned 5 tests but ran 1
20:53 jcamins         Right.
20:53 jcamins         Ah.
20:53 librarygeekadam Non-zero exit status: 255
20:52 librarygeekadam t/Koha_template_plugin_KohaDates.t (Wstat: 652870 Tests: 1 Failed: 0)
20:52 rangi           yeah, xt/ is fine for shell i think
20:52 slef            I guess it's OK
20:52 slef            ah find-nonutf8 is a shell script
20:52 jcamins         Probably not.
20:51 slef            yeah
20:51 jcamins         I don't know.
20:51 jcamins         Oh, you mean to put in xt/?
20:51 jcamins         slef: what do you mean?
20:51 slef            can I run a shell script as a test easily?
20:50 jcamins         slef: I think so.
20:50 jcamins         It should have said something like t/Koha_Cache.t somewhere.
20:50 slef            and I guess this is "Architecture, internals and plumbing"?
20:50 librarygeekadam yeah i see it failed 1/92 and 0/7310
20:50 jcamins         You need to find out which test is failing.
20:50 jcamins         librarygeekadam: there are hundreds if not thousands of tests.
20:50 jcamins         Master.
20:50 slef            is that master or rel_3_8?
20:49 slef            ok, someone remind me what version to report against? I'm working on master HEAD
20:49 librarygeekadam Non-zero exit status?
20:49 jcamins         librarygeekadam: depends what the error is about.
20:49 huginn`         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6277 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , CustomLog by default
20:49 huginn`         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7157 enhancement, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Improve the j2a.pl cronjob
20:49 huginn`         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, P3, ---, kmkale, Pushed to Master , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
20:49 huginn`         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC
20:49 slef            @query executable
20:48 librarygeekadam i am looking online and a lot of things say not to worry about the "error 255". Is that true?
20:47 rangi           yeah that maybe
20:47 slef            perl script
20:47 slef            is an example
20:47 rangi           ahhh
20:46 rangi           cait: nope
20:46 slef            reports/issues_by_borrower_category.plugin
20:46 rangi           yeah the rest dont and i dont know about .plugin
20:46 cait            the new tt plugin maybe?
20:46 jcamins         I don't know what .plugin is.
20:46 slef            I think maybe only .plugin?
20:46 jcamins         Other than .plugin, which I don't recognize, no.
20:45 slef            ok, twit-filter me: do any of .pm files, .sql files, .tt files, .plugin files, .inc files or .abs files need to be executable?
20:44 jcamins         slef: but we don't use cpan install for anything.
20:44 slef            oleonard: in other words, to use packages whenever possible.
20:44 slef            oleonard: to use dh-make-perl instead of cpan install.
20:44 librarygeekadam "make: ** [test_dynamic] Error 255
20:43 librarygeekadam the error is "Non-zero exit status: 255 - Parse errors: Bad plan. You planned 5 tests but ran 1
20:42 librarygeekadam i have a different question now if someone is willing...I just ran "make test" and received a Fail for the first time ever (also first time using 3.06.03)
20:42 * oleonard      is still wondering what argument slef lost a long time ago
20:41 librarygeekadam well, I am only testing on Ubuntu/Apache server. our real server is something else that the guys in IT handle. I am just trying to get a working koha to play with so we can see if we like it.
20:40 rangi           which i need to update for 3.6.3
20:40 rangi           https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/koha-stable
20:40 rangi           also there is a ppa
20:40 rangi           when i say debian i meant ubuntu/mint/whatever esle as well
20:40 slef            librarygeekadam: yes, if there's a security upgrade released.
20:40 rangi           yup
20:39 slef            rangi: but doesn't http://debian.koha-community.org work on ubuntu too?
20:39 librarygeekadam i see...but don't understand entirely. Do I have to do these upgrades even after koha is up and running?
20:39 slef            rangi: to be fair, you have to subscribe to release announcements for dh-make-perl'd packages too.
20:39 rangi           not let apt-get do it for you
20:39 rangi           so dist-upgrade, or security releases you have to do all yourself
20:38 slef            cpan is OK, but be aware that it is not managed by the usual package manager
20:38 jcamins         It was the only option back on early versions of Solaris.
20:38 rangi           but if you have a debian system and there is a package available .. you should use that
20:38 librarygeekadam i am not a developer or programer
20:38 rangi           cpan is fine as far as it goes
20:38 librarygeekadam cpan not good?
20:38 jcamins         One of my developers has been using cpan for installing modules. I gave up on that. As long as he only uses modules that are packaged, that's good enough.
20:37 cait            but for ubuntu all should be available - no need for cpan
20:37 oleonard        ...
20:36 slef            oleonard: no.
20:36 * slef          prefers dh-make-perl to cpan install
20:36 oleonard        slef: why do you say that? We always choose packages wherever possible don't we?
20:36 slef            librarygeekadam: but don't mind me.  This is an argument I lost a long time ago ;-)
20:36 slef            librarygeekadam: because dpkg/apt-get/aptitude/synaptic knows nothing of stuff installed with cpan install
20:35 librarygeekadam why do you say that slef?
20:35 slef            librarygeekadam: congratulations! Your package management system is now degraded! :-/
20:35 librarygeekadam thanks again! always a good helpful place to visit.
20:34 librarygeekadam I just went back into cpan and used the install command to install the files it said I was missing then reran the perl Makefile.PL command
20:34 slef            I caught an httpd.conf a while back
20:34 slef            yeah, some contributor has done something silly like chmod 755 and snuck them in
20:34 librarygeekadam no warnings
20:34 librarygeekadam ok well it went through this time
20:34 jcamins         It's been executable for a long time.
20:34 slef            jcamins: oh well a plague on both your houses ;)
20:34 jcamins         So I took the chmod -x out, and didn't get around to submitting separately.
20:33 jcamins         slef: I fixed it as part of another thing, and someone complained.
20:33 slef            jcamins: so why rejected?
20:33 jcamins         slef: I don't think it has one.
20:33 rangi           slef: yep def should be fixed
20:33 slef            jcamins: bug number? ;)
20:33 jcamins         Definitely a bug.
20:33 * oleonard      sees them in install_misc/debian.packages
20:33 jcamins         slef: oh yes.
20:33 jcamins         librarygeekadam: odd. It should've been installed.
20:33 slef            jcamins: bug no?
20:33 jcamins         slef: 'cause my patch to fix it got rejected.
20:33 librarygeekadam 11.10
20:32 slef            hrrrrm... why is MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl executable?
20:32 jcamins         You're on Ubuntu 10.04?
20:32 librarygeekadam that's why i found it a little confusing
20:32 oleonard        I'm not sure why those wouldn't have been automatically installed
20:32 librarygeekadam i am testing that theory now to see if it fixes it
20:32 oleonard        librarygeekadam: Install those things?
20:29 librarygeekadam Good day. Quick question for anyone who can help me. I am getting ready to install koha on Ubuntu and ran perl Makefile.PL and got this warning - "Warning: prerequisite Locale::Currency::Format 1.28 not found" along with "PDF::API2::Simple 1 not found". Any ideas?
20:15 cait            hi oleonard, kyle and rangi
20:13 schuster        hey kyle how goes Koha up there!
20:12 * oleonard      will brb
20:11 * rangi         waves from the bus
20:11 kyle            hello!
20:10 wizzyrea        hi kyle!
20:10 * oleonard      wonders why his Firefox is so crashy today
20:07 huginn`         schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 20.7�C (2:02 PM CST on January 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 996.8 hPa (Steady).
20:07 schuster        @wunder 75074
20:07 oleonard        Feels like the temperature in my office.
20:06 huginn`         oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 9.0�C (3:05 PM EST on January 30, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
20:06 oleonard        @wunder 45701
20:05 kyle            hello
20:04 oleonard        Hi kyle
19:53 jcamins         That will be really useful for a lot of people, I think.
19:51 jcamins         schuster++
19:47 schuster        I'm trying to make sure these "Special" things are available in community...
19:47 schuster        I have 53000 borrowers that we upload patron images from a central database once a week so the one at a time or even the zip file process times out.  So we have been using this as a command line cron job.
19:47 * jcamins       confesses he couldn't really understand how the code works.
19:46 jcamins         schuster: it might not work from the command line.
19:46 schuster        hmmm it doesn't look like a command line tool...
19:44 jcamins         schuster: I don't know how it works, I just think that it works from the command line, too.
19:43 schuster        thank you very much one headache out of the way now to seee how it works vs what I have.
19:43 slef            biab
19:43 slef            cool. Had me worried.
19:43 schuster        there it is!
19:43 jcamins         That might be it.
19:43 jcamins         It's not?
19:43 slef            picture-upload.pl ?
19:42 slef            erm
19:42 jcamins         tools/
19:42 slef            oops
19:42 slef            locate upload-patron-images.pl
19:41 schuster        I was looking for that where is it?
19:41 jcamins         Doesn't upload-patron-images.pl work from the command line, too?
19:41 jcamins         A picture loading script?
19:41 jcamins         Attach the data to the bug.
19:40 schuster        It is a patron loading script and I also am working on a picture loading script
19:40 schuster        So if I have a script that I am cleaning up and going to submit to the community - I was going to provide some test data for the testers.  Does that go in as part of the patch or attach the data to the bug for others to test?
19:34 maximep         well it is the exact same word it seems
19:34 maximep         well I knew that one because it'S probably from the french word communiqué
19:33 * collum        doesn't think he has ever heard the word 'communique' except on tv.
19:28 jcamins         Yay!
19:27 maximep         a modicum ? I guess I learned a new word today
19:24 jcamins         [off] It is at odds with C & P's brand promise: we will display a modicum of literacy in our written communiques. :P
19:23 jcamins         maximep: no, not me.
19:21 maximep         oh man, for a sec I tought it was you that was writing this
19:14 jcamins         lol
19:14 slef            [off] they're there using their there there when it should've been their there there?
19:10 jcamins         [off] sic, sic
19:08 jcamins         [off] "Anyone who had there photo taken for an ID at the orientation can pick up their ID's"
19:08 jcamins         [off] Apparently my library school is not rebranding itself as a place where grammar is respected.
19:02 * wizzyrea      protects huginn`
19:01 * slef          steps away from the bot
19:01 slef            tempting... very tempting...
19:01 oleonard        No chance of setting up an infinite loop then
19:01 wizzyrea        technically I suppose they both are in their way.
19:01 wizzyrea        :)
19:01 huginn`         oleonard: Quote #185: "<wizzyrea> @quote get 23" (added by slef at 06:59 PM, January 30, 2012)
19:01 oleonard        @quote get 185
19:01 wizzyrea        yes
19:01 slef            You mean "@quote get 185" is so meta?
19:00 huginn`         wizzyrea: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012)
19:00 wizzyrea        @quote get 184
19:00 wizzyrea        that's so meta
19:00 huginn`         slef: The operation succeeded.  Quote #185 added.
19:00 slef            @quote add <wizzyrea> @quote get 23
19:00 wizzyrea        i win.
18:59 huginn`         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #184 added.
18:59 wizzyrea        @quote add slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!
18:59 jcamins         My library school is rebranding itself.
18:59 huginn`         wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
18:59 wizzyrea        @quote get 23
18:59 wizzyrea        ez to fix :)
18:59 slef            wizzyrea: yeah, I get that.
18:59 wizzyrea        hrmph
18:58 huginn`         wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:58 wizzyrea        @quote add slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!
18:56 jcamins         ;)
18:56 * jcamins       doesn't know, and is afraid to find out.
18:56 slef            that's a funny one... how did that happen?
18:56 huginn`         slef: A series statement for which no series added entry is traced or for which the added entry is traced in one of the 800-830 fields in a form different from the form contained in field 490. (Repeatable) [a,l,v,x,6,8]
18:56 slef            @marc 490
18:56 jcamins         ;)
18:56 jcamins         Except for 490.
18:55 slef            in theory, anything with a 9 is local use isn't it?
18:55 jcamins         However, catalogers expect the item type to be automatically set, and if 942$c is not automatically set, you end up with a lot of {item type that begins with 'A'}.
18:55 slef            well yeah, it's a 9xx
18:55 jcamins         To clarify, the 942$c is not required by other ILSes.
18:49 jcamins         That sounds wise to me.
18:47 slef            jcamins: hmmm, is there an argument for having bulkmarcimport take the first 952$y if there is no 942$c, or is that silly for a reason I don't see?
18:46 slef            cait: yeah. It's not an obvious one for us programmers.
18:46 jcamins         slef: I think there really *should* be 942$c in all records, so either put it into the MARC yourself, or have bulkmarcimport extract it from 952.
18:46 * slef          looks at how to figure out 942$c from what's already in the input
18:46 cait            listen to jcamins - it's a cataloging question :)
18:45 slef            jcamins: so I should get a 942$c into its input?
18:44 jcamins         slef: fix bulkmarcimport.
18:44 slef            Not sure if they mean to, but pretty sure they do ;-)
18:44 slef            I'm 99% sure this library uses item-level itypes.
18:44 slef            Not sure setting a default in the framework would help there.
18:44 cait            I think it makes sense to have it like that if you don't use item-level itypes
18:44 slef            I think bulkmarcimport records go in as being default framework.
18:44 cait            I am not sure
18:43 slef            Do you think I should fix the thing generating data for bulkmarcimport to include a 942$c, change the frameworks to not require it, report it as a bug, or what?
18:42 cait            I set it to a default value in the frameworks most of the time, the normal itemtype that is used most often
18:42 cait            that's normal - although I almost always change it
18:41 slef            I've some records that came in through bulkmarcimport and they don't have 942; however, as soon as opened in the biblio editor, they have a 942 and refuse to save, complaining about the lack of a 942$c.
18:40 slef            jcamins: that might work but not sure that's how it's working. Let me explain what I've met...
18:36 fredericd       and update to be in sync with English version
18:35 fredericd       maximep: yes. I could package them in a patch for installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/marcflavour/marc21/Obligatoire directory
18:32 jcamins         slef: but I don't think we really represent that at all in Koha.
18:32 jcamins         slef: required if applicable?
18:30 slef            How-can/why-can/what-sense-does-it-make a subfield be mandatory when the tag is not?
18:30 maximep         hoping to get back to you on this by the end of the day
18:29 maximep         fredericd: so what you want is a sql of our 2 marc structure tables ?
18:29 slef            busy times here... sorry for only returning when I've a question :-/
18:29 cait            h slef
18:29 slef            hi all!
18:22 wizzyrea        :)
18:21 magnuse         wizzyrea: exaktlich!
18:19 magnuse         nat�rlich?
18:19 wizzyrea        oh, like naturally?
18:19 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms
18:19 * fredericd     added a patch for relator codes in French to bug 6299
18:08 jcamins         :)
18:08 fredericd       natürlish = of course
18:07 * jcamins       supposes that was probably supposed to be a -ch. :)
18:07 jcamins         Huh?
18:06 fredericd       that was for jcamins explanation...
18:06 cait            natürlish? :)
18:06 fredericd       natürlish
18:05 jcamins         The theory is, at least the authorized values list should be available for linking to the framework.
18:04 jcamins         fredericd: they're also not installed by default.
18:03 jcamins         fredericd: not by default.
18:03 fredericd       jcamins: your author relator codes list isn't linked to 100 and 7xx in marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql...
18:00 * wizzyrea      hopes that software update they're trying to get doesn't break it.
18:00 wizzyrea        with 3m machines
18:00 wizzyrea        interesting, we've had no issues
17:57 cait            we want to update a 3m using library soon... interested in your findings
17:57 cait            bye paul_p - good luck to you too
17:54 paul_p          OK, I confirm that SIP in 3.2 work, and in 3.6 doesn't, at least for french 3M... will continue investigating tomorrow morning. Good bye world !
17:46 rangi           hehe
17:46 schuster        My boys are always tired on Monday after the first day BACK to school...  Guess I don't work them hard enough on the weekend!
17:45 magnuse         big day
17:45 schuster        Oh the joys of first day of school!!!  He'll be exhausted tonight!
17:45 magnuse         cool
17:45 rangi           that's right :)
17:45 cait            no that is atarau :)
17:44 magnuse         (unless i remember wrong and Kahu is the youngest?)
17:44 cait            good luck Kahu!
17:44 cait            ooh
17:44 magnuse         first day at school
17:43 cait            what does Kahu need luck for?
17:43 cait            oh
17:43 reiveune        bye
17:43 * magnuse       wishes Kahu good luck
17:42 * rangi         giggles
17:28 jcamins         Yay!
17:27 rangi           heh, more like an excited boy who is off to his first day of school
17:27 oleonard        rangi was roused from sleep by a disturbance in the Force generated by mention of 3M?
17:26 rangi           (as well as overdrive and wheelers (ebook vendors))
17:26 fredericd       paul_p: yes, I have
17:26 * rangi         has 3 libraries with 3M self check machines using koha 3.6.x
17:25 rangi           the spec does say \r .. and yup, works fine with NZ 3M (and us)
17:24 paul_p          fredericd hdl is asking me to ask you if you have a working pazpar2 setup, because he is fighting against pazpar2, and not winning...
17:24 paul_p          fredericd i'll let you know in a few minuts if my hack works better.
17:23 fredericd       paul_p: not false...
17:21 paul_p          patch 3480ae1cacb23fee70257762c83bc3e241548f69
17:21 paul_p          s/for/so/
17:21 paul_p          for between 3.2 and 3.4
17:21 paul_p          right : the \015 thing has been added on jan 2011
17:20 paul_p          fredericd shame on you, it's a dirty workaround ;-)
17:20 fredericd       the issue arises with Koha 3.4
17:20 fredericd       I've used Koha 3.2 SIP2 server with a Koha 3.6 instance
17:19 paul_p          )
17:19 paul_p          (line 157 of Sip.pm
17:19 paul_p          local $/ = "\015";    # proper SPEC: (octal) \015 = (hex) x0D = (dec) 13 = (ascii) carriage return
17:19 paul_p          fredericd what did you do ? comment $/='\015' ?
17:18 fredericd       paul_p: I've got the same issue with a 3M SC. I can confirm the issue with Koha 3.6
17:17 * paul_p        keep finger crossed
17:17 * paul_p        should have a phone call in a few minuts...
17:17 paul_p          Lyon 3 checking if we're right with this explanation
17:17 paul_p          new idea : 3M french does not respect 3M specs, and a patch solving a mistake has broken everything for us...
17:16 paul_p          still problems with 3M self-checkout at Lyon 3 universities
17:16 jcamins         3M--
17:16 jcamins         paul_p: agreed!
17:16 paul_p          3M--
17:16 jcamins         Does it still work (as much as it ever did) when using GRS-1 indexing for UNIMARC authoritiess?
17:15 jcamins         (you revised it)
17:15 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
17:15 jcamins         fredericd: I had a question about the UNIMARC part of bug 7284.
17:14 nengard_lunch   schuster http://paste.koha-community.org/236
17:14 jcamins         Yay!
17:13 fredericd       Ok, I will submit a patch for an relator code authorized values list, in French...
17:13 nengard_lunch   i'll paste my report
17:13 nengard_lunch   schuster not really - well it might work, but i don't have enough info from the library
17:11 maximep         nice
17:11 jcamins         fredericd++
17:11 jcamins         Cool!
17:11 fredericd       I've update 6299 to point to the translation into French of relator codes :-)
17:10 maximep         already at 40 hours of translations for our upgrade to 3.6 and I have probably 10 hours more to do
17:09 jcamins         :)
17:09 maximep         aaaaaaaah
17:08 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms
17:08 jcamins         maximep: while you're at it, you should do the French translation for bug 6299. :)
17:07 maximep         working on it =)
17:05 fredericd       French canadians seems to have something, but it hasn't been submitted yet as a patch
17:05 jcamins         Ewww.
17:05 jcamins         Really?
17:05 fredericd       For the time beeing there isn't even a translation of MARC default framework
17:04 * jcamins       is not fluent in French, though.
17:04 * jcamins       suspects there's probably an official list.
17:04 jcamins         fredericd: right.
17:04 fredericd       jcamins: for the authorized values?
17:04 schuster        nengard did you get it to work?  I'm thinking of another project I have that I could use that information in a different way.
17:04 fredericd       jcamins++
17:03 jcamins         fredericd: if you have a French translation, that'd be really useful.
17:03 jcamins         And paul_p wasn't around pushing things this weekend.
17:03 jcamins         I fixed them.
17:02 jcamins         It failed QA due to some problems.
17:02 jcamins         Because I just revised it.
17:02 fredericd       Any reason why this patch hasn't been pushed on master? (6299)
17:01 jcamins         No patch yet.
17:01 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5711 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Distinction between authors/additional authors in opac normal view (MARC21/XSLT)
17:01 jcamins         Bug 5711
17:01 jcamins         Actually, there was a patch to show that.
17:00 jcamins         Not yet.
17:00 fredericd       and for XSL anything you are aware of?
16:59 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms
16:59 jcamins         Bug 6299
16:58 fredericd       for that: http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/relacode.html
16:58 jcamins         It's bug...
16:58 fredericd       So XSL patch coming... and an authorized values list :-)
16:56 jcamins         :)
16:56 jcamins         It will be wonderful.
16:56 jcamins         And Koha will be one of the first ILSes with *good* support for it.
16:55 jcamins         $4 will be increasingly important.
16:55 jcamins         Do.
16:54 fredericd       I'm migrating a catalog from UNIMARC to MARC21, and since in UNIMARC there is an equivalent $4 subfield, and a used one, I'm tempted to use it also in MARC21
16:53 jcamins         And other ILSes don't support it either.
16:53 fredericd       ok, intersting
16:53 jcamins         I use it a lot.
16:53 jcamins         It's newish.
16:53 fredericd       Why is there so few MARC21 biblio records using this field?
16:52 jcamins         I just signed off on it.
16:51 jcamins         There's a bug for adding authoirzed values.
16:51 jcamins         Very important for RDA.
16:51 jcamins         Yes, $4 is used for relator trms.
16:50 fredericd       Is it a good idea to use $4 at all?
16:49 fredericd       It isn't decoded in XSL
16:49 fredericd       In Koha, there is no autorized values for this subfield
16:49 fredericd       thanks...
16:49 fredericd       But I don't see that much marc21 biblios using this letter
16:49 jcamins         fredericd: I'm here.
16:49 fredericd       I can see that author fields (100, 70x) may have a $4 subfield
16:48 fredericd       Any MARC21 specialist around?
16:48 kf              bye all
16:16 schuster        wizzyrea nengard - I was wondering about like that always gets me when I do the truncation
16:15 jcamins         schuster: zebra isn't going anywhere.
16:15 jcamins         schuster: no, it would be worth it.
16:15 nengard         thanks!
16:15 wizzyrea        may be helpful.
16:14 wizzyrea        nengard:  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3579760/mysql-case-in-select-statement-with-like-operator
16:14 schuster        thanks jcamins - and if zebra were to change to the "proposed biblibre" indexing option then it wouldn't be worth it!
16:13 * magnuse       would applaud jcamins if he did
16:09 jcamins         schuster: I'd like to redo rebuild_zebra to use POD at some point.
16:08 jcamins         schuster: use POD.
16:07 kf              sorry nengard, no time today
16:04 schuster        just to clarify they didn't do anything with their collection/location codes to match that?
16:01 nengard         kf ^
16:01 nengard         looking for some report help again - anyone around who can help? (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/235
16:00 kf              http://perldoc.perl.org/perlpod.html
16:00 kf              yes, I think it's called POD (plain old documentation)
15:59 schuster        they used the =head1 NAME configuration as well so I'll go that way!
15:58 schuster        Starting in the dark so everything is helpful!
15:58 kf              hope it's helpful :)
15:58 kf              yvw
15:58 schuster        Thanks for the response!
15:57 kf              this is quite new
15:57 kf              http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/cronjobs/j2a.pl;h=87edaa4bb7a25ba4e727400eaba896d2f9836d9e;hb=fe1a642a1a06c38b55c2666ead4f4ff4ea3658da
15:57 kf              I would look at newer scripts and how they do that
15:56 kf              and you will also want to use something to make it put out the commands when typing -h
15:56 kf              I think the =head is the POD
15:51 schuster        is there a preference? or more guidance?
15:51 schuster        I looked at the rebuild_zebra and it basically did a sub print_usage { and then put all the options there and closed it _USAGE_ }
15:50 schuster        A programmer here in Plano used =head1 NAME and then put the information describing what it was doing...  fancy formating...
15:49 schuster        I found the guidelines for command line scripts, but my question has more to do with how to insert that information into the .pl
15:49 schuster        Question about command line scripts - I have a couple that I am looking at committing, but being a good citizen am trying to document the correctly.
15:28 pastebot        "nengard" at pasted "looking for some report help again - anyone around who can help?" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/235
15:23 oleonard        Not sure why I suddenly got a bee in my bonnet about that one.
15:22 magnuse         oleonard++
15:18 nengard         cool
15:17 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart"
15:17 * oleonard      is very pleased to submit a fix for Bug 3215
15:16 nengard         don't remember where i read that
15:16 nengard         good to know
15:16 nengard         okey dokey
15:16 oleonard        nengard: I don't think so. The template builds a direct link to the image file on Amazon.com
15:16 nengard         if not then great!
15:16 nengard         oleonard i thought that they required the associate id for the covers (sorry got sidetracked)
15:09 kf              hi wizzyrea :)
15:08 magnuse         kia ora!
15:07 wizzyrea        hi :)
15:06 * magnuse       waves to wizzyrea as she wizzes past...
14:38 oleonard        Amazon covers are the only thing that work right now
14:38 oleonard        Amazon now requires associate id for what?
14:36 nengard         amazon question - amazon now requires associate id be filled in - we say in the sys prefs that you sign up at aws.amazon.com but i'm not seeing an associate id there - i think you have to sign up at https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/ for the associate id - can anyone confirm/correct me?
14:33 druthb          oleonard++
14:33 magnuse         yay!
14:32 oleonard        If anything it's good news for us: We're competitive on the basis of functionality rather than ideology
14:29 magnuse         yeah, pointing out the disparity would be much better than drawing a conclusion based on one side of the story
14:29 * druthb        , having met Marshall in-person, refrains from coloring the conversation with her own opinions...but she is unsurprised by the seeming contradiction that oleonard points out.
14:28 oleonard        And yet he chooses to base his conclusion on one data point which is directly contradicted by another.
14:28 magnuse         :-)
14:27 druthb          Sounds like the libraries for whom the open-source angle is not a big part of their decision.  These are the ones that, when you start talking about FLOSS, say, "yes, yes, that's nice...now, does it *work*?"
14:24 magnuse         so when libraries are asked "are you planning on migrating to a FLOSS ILS" they say no, and when they are asked what systems they plan to migrate to they say koha and evergeen? makes perfect sense to me...
13:56 oleonard        What a cop-out.
13:56 oleonard        Marshall responds on Twitter, "It does seem ironic that the scores for the open source question are low, but open source replacements are frequently given."
13:50 kf              confusing bug numbers?
13:42 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1293 normal, P2, ---, chris, RESOLVED MOVED, Database installation problem
13:42 * oleonard      wonders why someone just added themselves to the CC list on Bug 1293
13:37 kf              I don't see how he comes to this conclusion from the numbers
13:36 kf              oleonard: yes, it's not right
13:29 oleonard        And yet, "low levels of interest in migrating to an open source ILS" ?!
13:28 oleonard        "Summaries of replacement candidates for libraries indicating they are considering migrating to a new ILS: Innovative Interfaces Sierra 88, Evergreen 87, Koha 74"
13:21 marcelr         very strange..
13:21 jcamins_away    Yeah, I'm not sure which could have an impact, though.
13:20 marcelr         thinking about preferences or other things that may affect this..
13:19 marcelr         saw it; looks ;like what i did with another result??
13:19 kf              jcamins++ for helping me translate manuscript english
13:19 jcamins_away    marcelr: I posted a screen capture on the bug.
13:17 jcamins_away    cul_away: you ran it as root the first time.
13:17 jcamins_away    marcelr: yeah, I may have gone a bit overboard.
13:17 cul_away        jcamins: so running as root resets all permissions?
13:17 marcelr         jcamins: you tested a lot os
13:17 wahanui         bonjour, marcelr
13:17 marcelr         hi
13:17 jcamins_away    marcelr: good morning.
13:16 jcamins_away    cul_away: it's because you ran it as root once.
13:16 Culiforge       jcamins: right. but i'm just wondering why all those files are set to root. I'll fiddle with it at work today.. gotta get ready. Good morning #koha and goodbye for now.
13:15 marcelr         ?
13:15 marcelr         hi jcamins
13:15 kf              jcamins++
13:14 jcamins_away    Good morning.
13:13 jcamins_away    *using
13:13 jcamins_away    Culiforge: you need to change the permissions to whichever user you're uins.g
13:13 Culiforge       jcamins: I tried -ugary and -ukoha.. no permissions
13:12 kf              good morning jcamins_away :)
13:12 jcamins_away    -ukoha or -ugary depending on which user you're running Koha under.
13:12 Culiforge       kf: that's what I was thinking..
13:12 jcamins_away    Culiforge: don't use -uroot
13:12 kf              and starting zebrasrv should work without sudo
13:11 kf              all zebra files should be owned by your koha user
13:11 kf              that does not seem right to me
13:11 kf              hm
13:10 Culiforge       aha! kf: you are correct... permissions. but why are all my permissions locked to root user? Because I had to run this to get zebra running: sudo -uroot zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
12:35 kohaLIB         kf: thanks for your guidance
12:30 kohaLIB         kf: no any other change require??
12:30 kohaLIB         kf: thanks buddy... it's work
12:27 Culiforge       kf: np, i'll keep poking around
12:27 kf              sorry out of ideas
12:26 Culiforge       kf: ran as sudo and as root, same result
12:26 kf              perhaps permissions?
12:25 kf              hm
12:25 Culiforge       Restarting Zebra server for library / Invalid option: __user (only works for root) / usage: daemon [options] [cmd arg...] / options:
12:24 kf              and restarting apache
12:24 kf              yes
12:24 kohaLIB         kf: u mean add "Listen 8090" "Listen 8091" in ports.conf
12:24 kf              Culiforge: sorry, I am not a package expert - perhaps someone else will know a bit later
12:23 kf              but does not tell you whats wrong?
12:23 kf              kohaLIB: ports.conf ?
12:23 Culiforge       just the syntax list for daemon commands.. same as if I had typed -h
12:22 kf              Culiforge: not sure then, what does the help say?
12:22 Culiforge       koha-restart-zebra library is actual
12:22 Culiforge       I simply put that as a placeholder for my instance
12:22 kf              kohaLIB: you will also need to change in your apache configuration I think
12:21 kf              Culiforge: perhaps without the '' ?
12:20 AmitG           what error?
12:20 kohaLIB         AmitG: i hv altered in koha-httpd.conf but getting error "page not found"
12:18 AmitG           heya wahanui
12:17 wahanui         AmitG: that doesn't look right
12:17 AmitG           change in your koha-httpd.conf file
12:13 kohaLIB         need to change Listen port 8000 & 8001 with 8090 & 8091.... please guide the right procedure?
12:12 Culiforge       koha-restart-zebra 'instance' only gives me help file what am I not doing right?
12:07 Culiforge       hello all
12:05 AmitG           heya kohaLIB
12:02 kohaLIB         hello, kf:
12:01 kohaLIB         I have installed Koha on port Interanet 8000 & OPAC 8001...... now need to change this with 8090 & 8091 please guide me in which files i want to update
12:00 kf              hi kohaLIB
11:58 kohaLIB         Hi all...
11:57 cul_away        didn't get a chance to resolve this yesterday... unable to search in staff or opac. zebra appears to be running: 19694  0.0  0.1   3376   804 pts/0    S+   06:53   0:00 grep --color=auto zebra. Also seems that zebra is not auto starting.
11:45 druthb          Awr.
11:45 druthb          Two Amits! :)  Handy.
11:42 druthb          hi, AmitG. :)
11:42 AmitG           heya druthb
11:17 magnuse         \o
11:16 druthb          o/
10:57 kf              lunch time :)
10:57 kf              heh
10:47 magnuse         hey, it worked!
10:34 * kf            hands out the duct tape
09:44 marcelr         bug does depend on not receiving empty params which makes the function stumble over unexpected order
09:43 marcelr         rangi: thanks for testing, have to see which browsers (under which version..) do have this problem
09:31 asaurat         seems tricky to correct
09:30 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field
09:30 asaurat         bug 7455 has to do with this kind of function too
09:30 rangi           hmm nope still seems to work fine
09:28 * rangi         tries making 2 4 subfields
09:27 rangi           and the rest of the 700 stayed there
09:27 rangi           hmm i cant recreate either i removed the 4
09:24 * rangi         tries
09:23 rangi           even after comment 10
09:23 rangi           hmm but jared couldnt reproduce
09:21 marcelr         well, thinking further it could be related to browser (order of params and handling empty params)
09:20 marcelr         has to do with function in C4 module
09:20 marcelr         does not depend on firefox
09:20 marcelr         you could check it there too?
09:19 rangi           marcelr: if no one has by tomorrow ill check on my computer at work, dont have firefox on this one, just chromium
08:53 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3264 critical, P1 - high, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , UnCloneField() / minus button  in MARC editor can clear all subfields (authorities AND biblio)
08:53 marcelr         could anyone of you reproduce the problem of bug 3264 (comment 10) ? takes a minute or two ..
08:43 marcelr         hi sophie_m and francharb
08:37 sophie_m        Guten Tag kf
08:36 kf              bonjour sophie_m :)
08:36 francharb       hi kf rangi
08:36 sophie_m        hi rangi
08:36 rangi           hiy francharb and sophie_m
08:35 sophie_m        hello #koha
08:34 kf              hi francharb :)
08:34 wahanui         bonjour, francharb
08:34 francharb       hi
08:28 marcelr         ;)
08:28 kf              and s/no/now/
08:28 kf              was testing a new irc client on phone earlier
08:28 marcelr         real?
08:28 magnuse         woohoo! ;-)
08:27 kf              no back for real
08:27 rangi           hi kf
08:27 magnuse         hi kf
08:23 marcelr         hi cait
08:23 magnuse         hi cait_
08:21 cait_           hi all
08:12 marcelr         np
08:12 rangi           marcelr++ # thanks for the quick qa
08:11 marcelr         hi gaetan_B
08:09 gaetan_B        hello #koha :)
08:07 hdl             hi rangi
08:07 marcelr         hi asaurat
08:07 marcelr         rangi: yes
08:07 rangi           hi asaurat hdl and gaetan_B
08:06 asaurat         hello
08:06 rangi           but thats totally separate to the new problem of the Makefile.PL ignoring hte Koha dir
08:05 magnuse         wb cait
08:05 rangi           its always been like that for a standard install
08:05 rangi           yep
08:05 rangi           KOHA_DEST_INTRANET_CGI_DIR = $(DESTDIR)/usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin
08:04 marcelr         but you cant change it
08:04 rangi           so yeah, /etc/koha is where it will go
08:04 marcelr         yes?
08:04 rangi           and DESTDIR =
08:03 rangi           OHA_DEST_KOHA_CONF_DIR = $(DESTDIR)/etc/koha
08:03 rangi           goes to
08:03 magnuse         wow, those are seriously long item types... http://library.engr.tu.ac.th/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=3
08:01 julian_m        hi marcelr, hi rangi
08:01 marcelr         hi julian_m
08:00 rangi           yep, hitting enter
08:00 julian_m        hello
08:00 marcelr         ok
08:00 rangi           (ive done 2 today but very rarely do them now im not RM, since i use the packages, i used to do them as part of the release tho)
07:59 * rangi         does another one
07:59 rangi           well thats if you just hit return at the defaults
07:58 marcelr         did not do that long time
07:58 rangi           thast where it puts the koha-conf.xml
07:58 rangi           yes
07:58 rangi           standard one?
07:58 magnuse         cool: http://library.engr.tu.ac.th/
07:58 marcelr         about etc; should it install there?
07:57 rangi           yup
07:57 wahanui         I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
07:57 marcelr         rangi?
07:56 marcelr         hi magnuse
07:56 magnuse         hiya marcelr
07:55 marcelr         hi koha
07:54 rangi           cool
07:54 magnuse         i sent it to my kindle, will peruse it later
07:54 magnuse         heh, that's a shame
07:54 rangi           but then again .. they never do
07:53 wahanui         interesting is good
07:53 magnuse         interesting...
07:53 rangi           but somehow the conclusions marshall draws dont reflect the numbers
07:53 magnuse         ah, yes i saw you and cait chatting about that earlier
07:53 rangi           not great at all for liblime
07:53 rangi           the numbers look great for koha
07:53 rangi           marshalls perceptions report is out
07:53 magnuse         wassup?
07:52 rangi           heh
07:52 magnuse         hiya cait-not-here-anymore and rangi
07:49 cait            morning magnuse
07:48 rangi           hi magnuse
07:48 magnuse         kia ora #koha!
07:47 paul_p          hello #koha
07:47 cait            hi paul_p
07:45 rangi           hi paul_p
07:41 rangi           hi alex_a
07:41 cait            hi laurence and alex_a
07:38 wahanui         hi, alex_a
07:38 alex_a          bonjour
07:37 laurence        hi #koha
07:37 laurence        hi rangi
07:36 rangi           hi laurence
07:36 reiveune        hi rangi , cait , everybody :)
07:36 rangi           hi reiveune
07:36 cait            hi reiveune
07:34 wahanui         que tal, reiveune
07:34 reiveune        hello
06:49 cait            :)
06:47 rangi           pleased to see the 2 catalyst ones who choose to respond said we do good, so im happy with that
06:46 rangi           not too many at all
06:46 rangi           no
06:45 cait            not a lot of comments this year
06:45 cait            agreed
06:42 rangi           even if marshall seems to interpret that as not well, meh
06:42 rangi           good to see actual koha score really well
06:27 rangi           http://www.librarytechnology.org/perceptions2011.pl
06:27 rangi           but ouch .. liblime .. bottom or 2nd to bottom on everything
06:25 rangi           and hsis conclusions are always biased against open source
06:25 rangi           thats why i never tell anyone to fill in his survey its statistically unsound
06:24 rangi           the old low levels of interest
06:24 rangi           lol
06:22 rangi           oh is the survey results out?
05:30 AmitG           hey aBob
05:01 cait            yep
05:01 rangi           still worth pushing
05:01 cait            not bad at all then
05:01 cait            cool
05:01 rangi           yep, copy the file
05:00 cait            and easy to workaround I guess?
05:00 rangi           it only affects the templates that use that plugin
05:00 cait            right
05:00 rangi           for 929
05:00 rangi           yes
04:59 cait            ah, so 7359 only affects the new feature?
04:59 rangi           not Koha not working, 2 new features are broken, the rest work fine
04:59 rangi           its only 2 pages
04:31 * rangi         downgrades the severity of 7359
03:34 * chris_n       wonders briefly if there is any association between his being disconnected and the last line in the irc buffer including the words "core dumped" :)
03:22 AmitG           heya bag
01:43 jcamins         Better to have people wondering why there are no packages than wondering why Koha won't work.
01:42 jcamins         Yes, please do.
01:40 eythian         ah. I might hold off on making the packages for a little while then.
01:40 jcamins         The fact that every single "regular" 3.6.3 and 3.4.8 install will be broken.
01:39 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7359 blocker, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace
01:39 jcamins         eythian: bug 7359.
01:33 eythian         "this" is not defined: core dumped
01:28 jcamins         *important issue
01:26 jcamins         So... does that comment make clear that I think this is an issue?
01:23 jcamins         I guess the world won't have the benefit of rangi's moderating influence on my tetchy comment.
01:22 jcamins         Hm.
01:22 eythian         well, he's not here anyway
01:22 eythian         he ain't
01:22 jcamins         rangi: around?
00:59 kathryn         true!
00:58 jcamins         That's our preferred method. ;)
00:58 jcamins         You can hassle rangi on #koha!
00:57 kathryn         why thank you! maybe I should ask more questions here then I don't have to hassle rangi so much : )
00:53 jcamins         And we're very glad to have you. :)
00:53 kathryn         : )  I'm a little quiet but I'm here!
00:51 jcamins         Hi kathryn. :)
00:50 kathryn         hi jcamins I'll take that as a hi to me too! (I work with chrisdothall and rangi)
00:47 chrisdothall    jcamins_away: hello from nz :)
00:46 jcamins_away    (and everyone else)
00:45 jcamins_away    Hello, New Zealand!