Time  Nick         Message
00:32 cul_away     Does anyone use ATOS for juvenile literature?
01:42 bag          @wunder 93109
01:42 huginn`      bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 14.8�C (5:41 PM PST on January 28, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Rising).
09:24 francharb    hi
09:49 jransom      does anyo
09:51 cait         hi jransom :)
12:55 Culiforge    shouldn't I have a php.ini file somewhere?
12:57 jcamins_away Culiforge: not for Koha.
12:58 jcamins_away Koha is written in Perl.
12:58 Culiforge    ok, why would my localhost access be so painfully slow. (i'm running koha on localhost atm)
12:59 jcamins_away Culiforge: too much other stuff running?
13:00 Culiforge    I don't think so.. 10.04 ubuntu-desktop and what's needed to run koha along with firefox on a 3.2GHz intel proc
13:00 jcamins_away How much RAM?
13:01 Culiforge    ~blush~ 512
13:01 Culiforge    should have 2G by midweek though (not that it helps now)
13:01 jcamins_away That's why.
13:02 jcamins_away FF will merrily eat up the entire 512.
13:02 Culiforge    but all my regular web browsing is quite snappy
13:02 jcamins_away That's because FF isn't getting swapped out.
13:02 jcamins_away Just Koha.
13:04 Culiforge    speaking of swap. I was just over on #ubuntu and was told that ubuntu really doesnt' like to use swap file.. as I watch my memory spike merrily while my swap sits at 12% like a lump
13:04 jcamins_away Yeah, that's correct.
13:05 jcamins_away However, it will swap eventually.
13:05 Culiforge    just not much eh?
13:06 jcamins_away It will try not to, but FF is a RAM hog.
13:07 Culiforge    some suggest chrome.. might there be anything else lightweight that I might use specifically for koha work?
13:07 jcamins_away I just opened up FF on my Mac and it is using over 200MB of RAM.
13:07 Culiforge    at startup?
13:07 jcamins_away I'm not using FF. I just *opened* it.
13:08 jcamins_away Yup.
13:08 Culiforge    man.. that's just wron
13:08 Culiforge    wrong
13:08 jcamins_away You'll see huge improvements when you put in 2GB.
13:10 Culiforge    yeah, I noticed that on my wife's laptop... I ordered 2G and they sent it to me.. but they sent me sodimm.. luckily it fits nicely in the laptop so the $14 i spent on it isn't all lost
13:10 Culiforge    it would have cost me that just to send it back
13:12 Culiforge    does the Z39.5 lookup have issues with 13 digit isbn's or is that more of an "on the other end" problem?
13:12 jcamins_away It's probably a problem on the other end.
13:13 jcamins_away LC's Z39.50 server has issues with ISBN.
13:13 jcamins_away Or, rather, with the way Koha queries for ISBN.
13:13 Culiforge    I see
13:14 Culiforge    is there a way to adjust how it searches.. ie. matching any instead of all search fields.. boolean if you will?
13:15 jcamins_away Not easily.
13:15 jcamins_away You'd have to hack the code a bit.
13:15 jcamins_away Well, a lot.
13:16 Culiforge    ahhh, definitely not for me then
13:18 Culiforge    so do you pretty much stick to the LoC Z server for lookups then?
13:19 jcamins_away Me? No.
13:19 jcamins      I use a lot of Z39.50 servers.
13:19 jcamins      But I catalog very specialized collections.
13:20 Culiforge    was it you who told me you go around setting up private libraries.. or was that someone else?
13:26 jcamins      That was me.
13:26 cait         hi Culiforge and jcamins :)
13:27 Culiforge    hi cait
13:27 jcamins      Good morning cait.
13:28 Culiforge    so would there be a way to suppress the auto insertion of the isbn when I do Z lookups then?
13:28 cait         more good afternoon )
13:28 cait         @wunder Konstanz
13:28 huginn`      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.2�C (2:24 PM CET on January 29, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022.2 hPa (Steady).
13:30 Culiforge    @wunder 49037
13:30 huginn`      Culiforge: The current temperature in Battle Creek, Michigan is -3.0�C (8:18 AM EST on January 29, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 4 PM EST this afternoon... 
13:31 cait         brr
13:31 jcamins      Culiforge: auto-insertion of ISBNs?
13:31 jcamins      Z39.50 lookups only use the ISBN if you enter it.
13:32 Culiforge    when I open my marc record from the import... under the edit tab there is replace with Z record option that opens the Z search window and fills in the data you have
13:32 jcamins      Ah.
13:33 jcamins      I think you just have to remove that manually.
13:33 jcamins      You could probably write some Javascript to remove the contents of the ISBN box, but you'd have to figure out how yourself.
13:35 Culiforge    *jcamins pokes cul with a pointy stick because he knows he can't do that*  :)
13:36 jcamins      Culiforge: I wasn't going to be quite that blunt. ;)
13:36 Culiforge    It's alright, I'm a big boy I can take it. That and I'm generally good natured.
13:51 Culiforge    uh-oh.. something's not right... I should have about 20 items added but when I pqf=@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" nothing comes up
13:51 jcamins      The Zebra server isn't running.
13:52 cait         don't worry
13:52 cait         we've all been there
13:54 Culiforge    so why is it not starting at startup...
13:56 jcamins      How did you install Koha? Packages?
13:57 Culiforge    pfft.. from the deb pkg I think
13:58 jcamins      Hm.
13:58 jcamins      That's odd.
13:58 jcamins      I've never had any problems with it not automatically starting.
14:16 Culiforge    ok, I think I've got it started but I'm not sure
14:16 Culiforge    it won't let me rebuild the index
14:17 Culiforge    rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null is syntax right?
14:17 jcamins      You should use the scripts provided by the package.
14:17 jcamins      sudo koha-rebuild-zebra instancename
14:18 Culiforge    where instance name is ?
14:18 jcamins      The name of the instance you set up using the package.
14:18 jcamins      You said you used the Debian packages to set up Koha, right?
14:18 Culiforge    I believe so
14:18 jcamins      You would've given it some sort of name.
14:19 jcamins      Run sudo koha-list
14:20 Culiforge    no output from command line, is that right?
14:20 Culiforge    sry on the rebuild command
14:21 jcamins      There shouldn't be any output from the rebuild_zebra command.
14:21 Culiforge    right, ok.. but still no search results.. so apparently I didn't get the zebra server running
14:22 jcamins      Run ps aux | grep zebra
14:22 Culiforge    gary      6115  0.0  0.1   3376   800 pts/0    S+   09:21   0:00 grep --color=auto zebra
14:23 jcamins      Yeah, it's not running.
14:23 jcamins      searching faq?
14:23 jcamins      wahanui is still missing. :(
14:27 cait         oh
14:28 cait         perhaps we should mail gmcharlt again?
14:28 cait         or is wahanui from rangi?
14:28 jcamins      I'm not sure.
14:38 Culiforge    ok, time for sunday chores and stuff.. bbl
14:55 cait         jcamins++
18:00 cait         @wunder Konstanz
18:00 huginn`      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.6�C (6:59 PM CET on January 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Steady).
18:57 rangi        morning
18:57 cait         morning rangi :)
20:31 * magnus_afk waves
20:31 cait         heya magnus_afk
20:32 magnus_afk   hiya cait
20:33 magnus_afk   you upgraded customers to 3.6.3 on friday?
20:33 rangi        hi magnus_afk
20:33 cait         yes we did
20:33 magnus_afk   all well?
20:33 magnus_afk   kia ora rangi
20:34 cait         yep all well so far
20:34 magnus_afk   yay
20:34 magnus_afk   i'm upgrading now
20:34 cait         :)
20:36 magnus_afk   or rather: watching the packages doing it for me ;-)
20:45 magnus_afk   done
20:46 magnus_afk   g'night #koha!
20:48 cait         :)
21:08 eythian      hi
21:09 cait         oh hi eythian
21:09 cait         back?
21:11 eythian      back-ish
21:11 eythian      hello wahanui
21:12 cait         wahanui botsnack cookie
21:12 wahanui      thanks cait :)
21:12 cait         :)
21:32 chris_n      has anyone had any success using distro upgrades rather than fresh installs when moving to the latest distro?
21:36 rangi        of ubuntu or debian?
21:38 eythian      I've had pretty good luck with both.
21:38 rangi        yeah debian usually just works
21:38 rangi        lucid to maverick went bad, but the rest of ubuntu seemed ok
21:52 chris_n      ubuntu
21:52 * chris_n    just did it, and is rebooting... so we'll see :)
21:55 chris_n      well, the system rebooted ok
21:55 chris_n      that's nice since its a 15 min trip to do it manually
21:58 * chris_n    upgraded to natty
22:14 chris_n      things appear good... guess we'll see how the nightly backup runs
22:56 eythian      @karma C
22:56 huginn`      eythian: Karma for "C" has been increased 10 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 10.
22:58 bag          @wunder 93109
22:58 huginn`      bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.1�C (2:57 PM PST on January 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
22:58 bag          it's been a hot winter here so far
22:59 bag          @wunder wellington nz
22:59 huginn`      bag: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 30, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).