Time Nick Message 00:49 Culiforge when I installed Koha, it setup all these sample libraries and patrons... I thought I selected not to but there they are... is there a way to remove them bulk style or am I left to browse through the alpha listings one by one for them? 00:52 mtj Culiforge: you can always delete anything bulk-style via SQL 00:53 Culiforge I'm not very nimble with sql... :( 00:54 Culiforge right now I can't even find how to delete one by one.. 00:54 mtj > delete from borrowers where borrowernumber = '777'; 00:55 mtj > delete from borrowers; 00:55 mtj see, it's not so hard ;) 00:58 Culiforge hmm, tells me no database selected 00:59 Culiforge list databases; tells me I have an error in my syntax 00:59 mtj > use yourdatabasename; 01:01 Culiforge hmm not remembering the name.. that's why I try list databases; tells me syntax error... 01:03 mtj > show databases; 01:06 mtj ... bbiab 02:05 Culiforge mtj: sry, had to step away... wife came home and got in an accident in the mall parking lot.. minor emergency 02:22 Culiforge currently running koha on localhost.. could anyone speculate as to why it runs so slow.. my regular internet browsing is faster than what koha is running.. 02:27 druthb o/ 02:27 rangi hi druthb 02:27 druthb :D Hi, rangi. :) 02:29 druthb @seen jcamins 02:29 huginn` druthb: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 day, 5 hours, 30 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: * jcamins heads to Forest Hills to fill up a suitcase and head back into the city to catch a bus to the suburbs. 02:29 druthb I'm off for the night...just wanted to pop in and see who was about. be well! 03:30 AmitG heya bag 03:30 AmitG Good morning #koha :D 03:33 * kmkale is installing Koha on a kvm virtual machine 03:34 AmitG heya kmkale 03:34 kmkale Namaste AmitG 03:35 AmitG kmkale what do you think india save the match? 03:35 kmkale No way in hell ! 03:35 AmitG hmm 04:11 bag yo AmitG 04:11 bag yo kmkale 04:48 kmkale Namaste bag 04:48 kmkale never realized I had got disconnected ;) 04:48 bag heya kmkale 04:48 bag heh 05:15 cait___ hi #koha 06:10 francharb hi 06:11 cait hi francharb 07:18 alex_a morning #koha 07:19 cait morning alex_a :) 07:23 cait hm 07:24 magnuse kia ora #koha! 07:36 cait good morning magnuse :) 07:39 magnuse hiya cait 07:40 cait heya 07:42 cait it rains 07:42 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:42 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.7�C (8:40 AM CET on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Steady). 07:42 magnuse @wunder boo 07:42 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0�C (8:20 AM CET on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). 07:42 reiveune hello 07:42 magnuse bonjour reiveune 07:42 reiveune :) 07:54 cait hi reiveune and hdl 07:54 cait bbiab 07:55 hdl hi 07:57 magnuse hiya hdl mbalmer cait___ 07:58 * magnuse plans to look at bug 6440 today 07:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets 08:04 gaetan_B hello 08:04 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B 08:06 hdl magnuse: great. 08:08 asaurat hi!! 08:09 julian_m hello 08:15 ktk we have not been able to search our serials in opac. we just upgraded from 3.2.10-3.04-06 and then to 3.6.3. We can see all titles in reports but it is not searching in OPAC how to make these serials visible in OPAC 08:18 paul_p_ good morning #koha 08:21 magnuse ktk: is it just serials you can't search? does it work for other things? 08:24 kf hi 'koha 08:26 ktk yes it works for other things 08:27 kf hi sophie_m 08:28 sophie_m Guten Morgen kf :-) 08:28 kf :) 08:30 asaurat hi kf! 08:30 kf hi asaurat :) 08:37 magnuse ktk: did it work before you upgraded from 3.2? 08:40 ktk yes it was working 08:40 magnuse hm, that's weird 08:41 ktk i checked the database in phpmyadmin and it shows records and i can see biblionumber, biblioitem, barcode 08:42 magnuse and the serials have dissappeared completely? no sign of them when you search? 08:42 ktk if i try to search in kohaadmin for either by biblionumber or title it does not work 08:42 ktk but i can see these records in phpmyadmin 08:46 magnuse just to be sure: when you search do you get any hits on serials at all? or have they dissapeared completely? 08:46 magnuse or can you see the records and not the issues? 08:46 kf and where are you searching? 08:46 kf opac/staff 08:46 kf which search option? 08:47 ktk if we search in opac with title no results 08:47 kf hm 08:47 kf did you suppress records? 08:47 ktk or if we search in kohaadmin with either title, biblionumber,barcode no results 08:48 ktk no hw does that happen 08:48 kf hm you should still be able to find them 08:48 kf in staff 08:49 ktk hw to unsupress and check if they are suppressed 08:49 magnuse there is a syspref called "OpacSuppression" - what is that set to? 08:50 kf ktk: how did you add the serial records? was there anything different in the workflow than for other records? 09:00 ktk i dont see supress link in sys pref 09:01 magnuse try searching for OpacSuppression in the sysprefs 09:02 ktk found and it is set to "dont hide" 09:05 magnuse ktk: ok, we can rule that out then 09:05 magnuse ktk: how about kf's other question: "how did you add the serial records? was there anything different in the workflow than for other records?" 09:05 ktk no i dont think so no different in the workflow 09:06 magnuse did you run the script to remove items from the records when you upgraded to 3.4? 09:06 ktk but my question is when i can see records in database through phpmyadmin with itemnumber, biblionumber, barcode, title what is wrong 09:06 magnuse yeah, that's what we are trying to figure out :-) 09:07 ktk no i did not run any script i just ran three commands perl Makefile.PL, make and make upgrade 09:07 kf are you using zebra? 09:07 ktk yes 09:07 kf ah 09:07 kf then this might be the problem 09:07 ktk it is running 09:07 kf there was a major change between those versions and you have to run a script 09:07 ktk oh which script 09:07 rangi its in the INSTALL file, in the upgrade section 09:09 ktk is it in install_misc 09:10 magnuse see line 341 etc here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;f=INSTALL.debian;hb=HEAD#l341 09:10 magnuse misc/maintenance/remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl 09:11 AmitG heya magnuse, ktk, rangi 09:11 ktk now i have already skipped this and have new koha running can i only run the above script 09:11 magnuse namaste AmitG 09:11 rangi heya AmitG 09:12 kf hi AmitG 09:12 rangi ktk: have to rebuild zebra after too 09:12 ktk ok that is fine 09:33 * kmkale has a working kvm based Koha VM image in case someone is interested 09:36 kf hm ok 09:37 kf anyone an idea why a search for missae will find missa with fuzzy and everything else turned off? 09:38 hdl it is fuzzy :D 09:38 kf the fuzzy switch broken? 09:41 kf hdl: fuzzy is off :( 09:52 magnuse kf: you're sure missa isn't mentioned somewhere in the record? 09:52 gaetan_B kf: just in case, we noticed that in 3.6, in the french translation, the values are inverted for quite a few sysprefs ("activated" read "désactivée" in french!) it was the case for fuzzy search, which was then on when it should have been off... 09:54 kf magnuse: missae isn't mentioned in the record 09:54 kf gaetan_B: this is a 3.2.2... so perhaps even more likely to have some bugs 09:55 kf I am looking at english interface... will try to toggle them and test again, thx! 09:56 kf the trucate is off 09:56 kf it's something about ae 09:56 kf because miss = finds nothing 09:56 * magnuse was just thinking that 09:56 kf but missa and missae both work 09:56 kf I checked the mapping file, but it seems ok to me 09:56 magnuse if there is a mapping from � to ae... 09:57 kf hm? 09:57 magnuse and � to a, or something 09:57 kf oh 09:57 kf circular 09:57 magnuse which file is the mapping file again? 09:57 * magnuse is just guessing 09:57 kf /koha-dev/etc/zebradb/etc 09:57 kf word-phrase... 10:01 magnuse what happens if you search for miss�? 10:02 kf ?? 10:02 magnuse hm, that might not display properly? 10:02 kf nope 10:03 kf æ 10:03 pastebot "magnuse" at 109.189.10.165 pasted "missæ" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/229 10:03 kf missæ 10:03 AmitG_ heya gaetan_B 10:03 kf doesn't find the record 10:03 magnuse what you just typed looked good :-) 10:03 magnuse oh 10:03 gaetan_B hi AmitG :) 10:03 kf so it ignores the e? 10:03 kf stemming? 10:04 magnuse yeah, could be that, but that's off to, right? 10:04 kf yep 10:04 kf this is really weird 10:07 hdl kf truncation ? 10:07 kf off 10:07 kf and miss doesn't find anything 10:07 kf which is right 10:07 kf but missae does... 10:07 kf only it's only missa in the record 10:08 magnuse hm, i'm looking at http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=etc/zebradb/etc/word-phrase-utf.chr;h=b41b298bf34e19f2d15e5bce80ba2717af33453c;hb=eac7c17e9fc7c444b8fdfa8637f4a5e4047e3e82 10:08 magnuse it has 10:08 magnuse 16 equivalent ӕä(ae) 10:08 magnuse 45 map � a 10:08 magnuse 60 map ӕ (ae) 10:08 kf oh 10:08 magnuse 45 map � a 10:08 kf and ä = a 10:09 kf that's a bad idea then 10:09 magnuse could it be that ae is taken as equvalent to � which is mapped to a? 10:09 kf yeah I think so 10:10 magnuse might be a bad idea to say that � and (ae) are equvalent, then? 10:24 ktk hi magnuse i tried running the script in misc/remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl --run and reindexed data but no lunk 10:25 ktk no luck still records are not available from OPAC for serials 10:26 magnuse ktk: hm, i'm running out of ideas, then 10:27 ktk BTW when i searched in advance search and selected Periodical/Serial without mentioning any specific name i get results 10:27 ktk but if i try searching by either barcode, title no results 10:28 ktk sorry it did not show all serials 10:28 ktk i was wrong i am getting some 8 serial details only 10:28 magnuse what happens if you search for one of those 8 titles? 10:29 ktk those 8 record are searchable in OPAC 10:30 ktk what is going wrong with my rest of the records of serials 10:32 magnuse well, what i think you need to do is take a good, long look at those 8 records that work and some of those that do not work and try to figure out how they are different 10:33 ktk those which are not searchable i can see them only from phpMyAdmin by browsing biblio 10:33 ktk can i make any global change in database 10:33 ktk but i dont knw what to be done 10:33 magnuse yeah, you need to figure out what makes those 8 that work different from the ones that do not work 10:34 magnuse is there some data in some field that is missing from the ones that do not work? 10:34 magnuse were they added to koha in some special way 10:34 magnuse were they added before or after the other ones? 10:34 magnuse etc 10:34 ktk we downloaded from Library of Congress 10:35 ktk each serial and then added items to each serial with bound volume number and year 10:37 magnuse same process for all of them, both the ones that work and the ones that do not work? 10:37 asaurat magnuse: so, in your etc/zebradb/etc/defaults.idx you have a line like "charmap word-phrase-utf.chr" ? 10:37 magnuse asaurat: better ask kf that, i think - i was just looking at the files in git, not a real installation 10:38 kf asaurat: sorry afk right now, will be back a bit later 10:38 asaurat ok but I wonder if this mapping is used if you don't have this line in defaults.idx 10:38 kf fighting with booking train tickets to marseille... 10:38 asaurat ok =) 10:38 sophie_m kf : you must win :-) 10:39 kf :) 10:39 kf :) 10:40 kf trying 10:44 kf asaurat: but I think it is used - for marc21 at least. there is a bug adding new diacritics to it 10:46 asaurat maybe... I'm struggling with a problem like this too... a search for "grèce" which gives no result, when it works with "grece" (in DB the accent is present!) 10:48 kf search bugzilla for diacricits 10:48 kf there is an open bug report for adding diacricits to the file 10:48 kf you can also make it work by using icu 10:48 kf 2 options 10:51 asaurat we are already using icu actually 10:51 asaurat it works with some customers, but not for everyone o_o 10:52 kf oh 10:52 kf if you use icu 10:52 kf the file will not be used 10:52 kf you have to check your icu chains then or however they are called 10:52 kf we use icu for one library - and I think it works nicely 10:52 asaurat bug 2629 seems interesting 10:52 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, ago, Pushed to Master , Diacritics not being ignored when searching 10:52 kf yes 10:53 kf but that's for when you are not using icu 10:53 asaurat yep, just for a comment 10:53 kf there is an icu patch from frederic waiting for sign-off 10:53 asaurat I don't have lines like <transliterate rule="æ > ae"/> 10:53 kf you don't need to 10:53 kf there is a general rule for all diacricitcs 10:53 asaurat ok 10:53 kf or not sur about ae but for other things 11:14 asaurat well, the "yaz-icu" package was missing, we installed it and will try after the next zebra rebuild 11:26 * paul_p ending the morning pushing some patches to koha... 11:30 Culiforge Z39 search does not seem to be working correctly.. do I need to open ports for each Z server on my router? 11:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #603 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #601 3 j 16 h ago) 11:50 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7367' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81cf767b17994c39dc83930305d4d9d65423db35> / 7367 Removing reintroduced debugging statement from Auth.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c0ce2bf3b01948b371c2389f958ba981a036031> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7439' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha. 11:52 kf zürich - marseille trains booked - now only missing the last little step, but should be ok :) 11:57 kf sophie_m: I won :) 12:35 chris_n everybody quitting 12:35 chris_n ? 12:36 drojf1 chris_n: netsplit 12:36 * chris_n was just being facetious :-) 12:36 drojf1 they are still connected somewhere, but the servers don't see each other 12:36 drojf1 ok 12:36 drojf1 :D 12:36 kf hi chris_n 12:36 kf and thx for the release :) 12:36 chris_n heaya kf 12:36 chris_n yw 12:36 kf 25 minutes until we start updating ;) 12:36 chris_n nice 12:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #603: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/603/ 12:39 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 6836: Add jQuery dataTables plugin 12:39 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 6836: followup CSS work 12:39 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 6836: test case readingrec.pl 12:39 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating perlcriticrc to allow Modern::Perl to suffice instead of use warnings; and use strict; 12:39 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6836: Adding dependency on Modern::Perl 12:39 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 1633 follow-up: Fix jenkins tests 12:39 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 1633, follow-up, french string 12:39 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6752: Be stricter with utf-8 encoding of output 12:39 jenkins_koha * lrea: Bug 7157 - Improve the j2a.pl cronjob 12:39 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7157 follow-up: j2a.pl executable again 12:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7157 follow-up: j2a.pl executable again 12:40 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7439 Mailmap for master 12:40 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7367 Removing reintroduced debugging statement from Auth.pm 13:00 paul_p jenkins should be back to stable in a few minuts... 13:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #604 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #601 3 j 17 h ago) 13:01 kf paul_p++ :) 13:02 paul_p now switching to mode "writing RM monthly newsletter #3" 13:02 paul_p (lot of new things to talk about !!! 13:02 paul_p ) 13:02 kf :) 13:02 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6836' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=209a6fb8c7fea293f8028b9f913c76dca4b53a1f> / Bug 6836 follow-up fixing POD <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=19e3607c49f1cc1d0a19180781102054b2a4e716> 13:03 kf late order management und local cover images are nice 13:03 kf we are updating to 3.6.x today and I already want 3.8 13:07 kf oh wb sophie_m 13:08 sophie_m :-) 13:09 kf sophie_m: all tickets booked :) 13:09 sophie_m yes ! 13:11 sophie_m we are very happy that you are coming again 13:28 oleonard Hi #koha 13:37 kf hi oleonard .) 13:37 * oleonard offers kf an eye patch 13:37 kf I did 2 follow-ups for 7113... could you perhaps take a look? 13:37 * kf blames her german keyboard 13:38 kf oleonard: another solution for the second patch could be to change the sub in C4:Acquisition - but I was not sure if that was a good idea 13:38 oleonard I'll take a look a little later 13:39 * oleonard is working again on Bug 3806 13:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly 13:43 kf oleonard: cool no hurry :) 13:55 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 13:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #604: FIXED in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/604/ 13:55 jenkins_koha paul.poulain: Bug 6836 follow-up fixing POD 13:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6836 enhancement, P2, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , jQuery plugin Datatables integration http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DataTables_HowTo 13:56 * oleonard shakes jenkins_koha's hand excitedly 13:57 magnus_afk woohoo! 14:08 kf chris_n: I think we forgot something - the database update to make it 3.6.3 14:08 chris_n kf... ouch 14:09 chris_n you are right 14:09 kf I didn't notice earlier 14:09 chris_n I'll fix it now and push up new tarballs 14:09 chris_n just another thing to add to the pile of embarrassing mistakes this week :-( 14:10 paul_p yes ! jenkins is happy ! 14:10 magnus_afk chris_n++ 14:13 * chris_n will add some code to his release roll script to check the version number to be sure this does not happen again 14:14 kf chris_n++ 14:14 kf no big mistake 14:14 kf don't worry about it 14:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #74 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 3 mo. 20 j ago) 14:16 chris_n ok, fix pushed, rolling new tarballs 14:16 kf very cool 14:17 chris_n kf: glad you caught it... I was about to do the same thing with 3.4.x :P 14:18 chris_n done 14:19 chris_n though it should not cause functional problems during the upgrade if one used the first tarball... only the version number would be wrong which would be fixed on the next upgrade 14:19 chris_n now for 3.4.8 14:20 kf chris_n: I know - uli has already done all 5 updates 14:20 kf found it when I was testing :) 14:22 chris_n 3.4.8 is up 14:23 chris_n oleonard: help... what's screwed up here: http://download.koha-community.org/ 14:24 chris_n http://paste.koha-community.org/230?hl=on&submit=Format+it%21 14:26 oleonard Sorry chris_n, what? 14:27 chris_n can you spot what is messed up with the download page there? 14:27 chris_n or is it just my browser? 14:28 chris_n the section above the directory listing looks skewed 14:28 oleonard It doesn't look broken to me, but I don't know what it usually looks like 14:28 * oleonard prepares a screenshot 14:28 kf looks ok to me 14:29 oleonard http://screencast.com/t/PuK5Xqa8tkt3 14:29 * chris_n gets the feeling its just another part of this week :) 14:30 chris_n yup, its just messed up here 14:30 chris_n but that's par for course for the week 14:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #33 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:34 chris_n ok, happy upgrading #koha 14:34 trea chris_n++ 14:37 kf chris_n++ 15:09 kf oleonard: around? 15:09 oleonard Yes 15:09 kf oh 15:10 kf [off] could you take a look at http://seminar-esslingen.bsz-bw.de ? 15:10 kf if I switch the language to german something weird happens with the footer - and I just don't spot the difference to the other languages 15:11 oleonard I can't see any difference on the main page 15:12 kf it breaks after each language for me 15:12 kf when I select German as language 15:13 kf oh I think I found it 15:13 kf custom css 15:14 kf oleonard: which makes me think - why did it only break de? and for you it didn't - browser detection? thx for taking a look! :) 15:14 paul_p OK RM monthly newsletter #3 sent, I must leave now, some family things... see you on monday #koha ! 15:14 kf have a nice weekend paul_p 15:15 kf oleonard: plus opacusercss influences staff and opac apparently 15:15 kf hm. 15:15 oleonard ?! 15:15 kf yep 15:15 kf I deleted one css line from opacusercss and it changed in staff and opac 15:16 oleonard I don't find it to be the case 15:17 kf I have no idea :( 15:17 kf why it happens I mean 15:17 kf I will do more tests 15:22 kf oleonard: sorry for causing confusion - this is weird and not related to the css entry I found - so ignore what I said about opacusercss. 15:22 * kf goes back to testing 15:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #74: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 10 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/74/ 15:27 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Koha 3.4.8 Translations Update 15:27 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.04.08.000 27 Jan 2012 14:02:53 Z 15:27 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.04.08.000 15:27 * wizzyrea waves 15:28 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 15:32 kf hi wizzyrea 15:33 oleonard kf, I'm glad you worked on lateorders.tt. Thanks. 15:33 kf I did a lot of testing on this - I think I would have thought it was intended behaviour if not for that 15:34 oleonard How exactly does an order become late? I don't have the right data to test with. 15:35 kf ah 15:35 kf you have to 15:35 kf close the basket 15:35 kf that's an important bit 15:35 kf and 15:35 kf entrydate must be in the past 15:36 kf and I think maybe the timestamp or another field too 15:37 kf if you have some unreceived ordres not from today, it should be enough to close the basket 15:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #33: SUCCESS in 1 h 10 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/33/ 15:41 jenkins_koha chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.06.03.000 15:49 * oleonard 's lateorders.pl was broken because he missed a database update 15:50 kf oh! 15:50 kf and ie decided to make one of my opacs blue instead of yellow 15:50 kf ie-- 16:04 wizzyrea ie-- 16:04 wizzyrea stupid IE 16:05 asaurat hmm... blue AND yellow would be perfect =) 16:05 asaurat http://lesitemac.free.fr/telechargement/media/Amstrad.gif 16:08 * magnus_afk wonders briefly if it would hurt to put the "rm newsletter" on http://koha-community.org/ and wanders off to make pizza 16:11 asaurat bye ! 16:15 * chris_n gives IE a kick as he heads out 16:30 jcamins Good morning, #koha. 16:30 jcamins (barely) 16:36 reiveune bye 16:38 kf hi jcamins :) 16:39 jcamins Hello. 16:39 jcamins How's your upgrade going? 16:40 kf almost done 16:40 kf some css pain 16:40 kf and missing images 16:40 kf :) 16:51 jcamins And you're already coveting 3.8! :) 17:03 kf coveting? 17:04 jcamins Wanting for all the neat new features. :) 17:04 kf oh always 17:22 Culiforge Is there a method in the staff client for viewing all records? 17:23 oleonard I suppose if all your records had an itemtype or ccode you could select all itemtypes/ccodes in the advanced search? 17:24 oleonard It's a surprisingly common request Culiforge, but no one has ever made a specific tool for doing so 17:24 jcamins Culiforge: enter this into the search box: pqf=@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" 17:24 * oleonard doesn't understand the need 17:26 oleonard jcamins++ # It works! 17:26 Culiforge oleonard: currently learning my way around and only have about 100 records currently. I just feel I need some sort of visual at the moment 17:28 jcamins oleonard: paul_p introduced me to the _ALLRECORDS recordset. 17:28 Culiforge That and it seems there should be an easier way to put imports into circulation other than one by one.. (or am I completely missing something?) 17:29 oleonard "imports into circulation" ? 17:30 Culiforge when I import a marc file... I have to go back one by one and say "yes, I have (1) of those or (2) of those etc 17:31 Culiforge otherwise they don't show up in opac 17:31 Culiforge or maybe I'm doing something completely daft 17:31 jcamins Culiforge: how on earth could Koha know how many copies of a given book you have without you entering that information in? 17:32 jcamins Culiforge: if you have a data file with that information, put the information into 952 fields. 17:32 jcamins If you don't have all that information already in electronic format, there's no way around it. 17:33 Culiforge jcamins: I completely understand that, I was simply expecting some sort of populate feature. .... that's the info I needed.. the 952 field 17:33 jcamins Culiforge: I don't really see how one could have a general-purpose 952-populator. 17:33 Culiforge !facepalm! 17:34 Culiforge Like I said, I'm learning my way around 17:34 jcamins It'll all make perfect sense in no time. :) 17:36 Culiforge unfortunately I'm used to csv and such. I was aware of Marc just not aware of the depth and intricacies.. and power 17:36 jcamins Culiforge: ah, that'll be because you don't know... 17:36 jcamins @quote get 123 17:36 huginn` jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 17:36 francharb hi all 17:36 francharb i've got a question 17:37 francharb 'im reading the documentation 17:37 francharb and there is something that sounds weird to me 17:37 jcamins francharb: ... as a bit of light reading before bed? :P 17:37 jcamins Isn't it late there? 17:37 Culiforge jcamins: rangi++ I love it 17:37 kf 18:36 ;) 17:37 francharb humm 17:37 francharb 6:30 pm 17:37 jcamins Okay, not that late. 17:37 francharb not that late 17:37 francharb ;) 17:37 francharb anyway 17:37 francharb ;) 17:37 jcamins Anyway, what sounds weird? 17:38 francharb the documentation says that 17:38 kf bye all and nice weekend :) 17:38 francharb HomeOrHoldingBranch : This preference does nothing unless the IndependantBranches preference is set to 'Prevent'. 17:38 jcamins That doesn't sound right. 17:38 francharb ok 17:39 jcamins I'm pretty sure that HomeOrHoldingBranch impacts circulation no matter what. 17:39 francharb because, i was wondering how it works if circontrol is on 'the library the item is from' 17:40 francharb how does koha know if he has to use the homebranch or the holdingbranch 17:40 francharb i always assumed the homeorholdingbranch syspref was here for that 17:40 francharb ok thanks jcamins! 17:41 francharb i will drop an email to nengard 17:41 jcamins francharb: CircControl *should* determine that, but I don't HomeOrHolding is entirely deprecated. 17:41 jcamins You should trace out the code, though, just in case someone finally fixed that. 17:42 jcamins In principle, CircControl = the library the item from == HomeOrHoldingBranch = the library the item is from 17:42 francharb i will chech this out with one of our techies 17:42 jcamins And CircControl = the library you are logged in at == HomeOrHoldingBranch = the library the item was checked out from. 17:43 francharb jcamins, that what I think too 17:43 jcamins But as far as I know, what I just described isn't true. :( 17:43 francharb arrf 17:43 jcamins I hope you find out that I'm wrong, and that *is* how it works. 17:44 francharb looks like everybody left biblibre office! i will ask them on monday and i let you know! 17:44 jcamins :) 17:45 jcamins Have a good weekend, francharb. 17:45 francharb thanks! i'm going to work a little bit more though 17:45 francharb ;) 17:45 francharb have a nice weekend too 17:45 * jcamins isn't going anywhere for a few more hours. 17:49 Culiforge correct me if i misunderstand this: there are no administrative tasks within the opac, they're all controlled from the staff interface. 17:49 jcamins Culiforge: that is correct. 17:50 Culiforge sweet. I'm getting somewhere.. I hate to come back with dumb questions because I made a bad assumption 17:51 francharb there are no dumb questions! 17:51 francharb ;) 17:51 jcamins francharb: are you sure? 17:51 jcamins ^^ bwahahaha!!! There was a dumb question! 17:51 francharb i guess 17:52 jcamins :) 17:52 francharb if your question concern koha at least 17:52 francharb ;) 17:53 Culiforge yeah but it's usually because I missed something glaring in the documentation 17:53 jcamins Wasn't there a patch to add relator codes to the authorized values? 17:54 francharb Culiforge, ok but it happens... ;) 17:54 jcamins Ah, yes, it's marked failed qa. 18:09 * jcamins tosses cait the duct tape. 18:09 cait thx :) 18:09 cait changed from phone to laptop 18:10 cait should be stable now :) 18:10 jcamins :) 18:11 francharb phone? 18:11 francharb what irc app do you use? 18:11 francharb iphone? android? 18:14 cait meego 18:14 cait I am using communi but looking for something better 18:17 francharb oki 18:17 cait I got it last weekend - still testing and figuring out things 18:18 francharb i'm waiting to see how this works : http://event.asus.com/mobile/padfone/ 18:19 francharb i may switch to this one if the rewiews are good 18:24 cait :) 18:24 cait bbiab 18:27 Culiforge is there an irc for marcedit? can't seem to find one 18:27 jcamins Culiforge: probably not. 18:29 francharb Culiforge, ask druthd, she's real good with marcedit 18:29 jcamins francharb: I don't think druthb uses marcedit. Mostly home-grown scripts. 18:29 francharb jcamins, well she teached me how to use it 18:30 francharb so i guess she knows a little bit ;) 18:30 jcamins francharb: huh! I didn't know that. 18:30 francharb ;) 18:31 * francharb need a break! 18:31 francharb see ya everyone! 18:32 Culiforge tc 18:37 Culiforge so I'm reading about mono and what it's supposed to do to allow me to install marcedit. it unwraps the exe and recompiles the code to run on linux.. is that right? 18:40 jcamins Culiforge: I'm not 100% sure, but something like that. 18:41 Culiforge no wonder it's controversial 18:46 Culiforge ***runnin away for now 19:08 oleonard Where's the "Koha on Windows" autoresponder when we need one? 19:09 jcamins [off] If you're not sure how to set up a virtual host in Apache, I can't help but think that the rest of the Windows installation process is going to be a bit much for you. 19:10 maximep i'm not sure how to set up a virtual host in Apache :S 19:11 maximep random question I always wanted to know the answer. Why does searching $b return all results ? 19:11 jcamins $b? 19:11 * jcamins never tried. 19:11 jcamins One moment while I do so. 19:11 maximep it seems to work on half of my koha installs :S 19:12 oleonard For me it returns *almost* all records 19:12 jcamins Interesting. 19:12 maximep hmmmm on one of my installs it returns "b" 19:12 maximep the same results 19:13 maximep unless it was 3.2 only 19:13 jcamins It returns all records for me. 19:15 maximep it returns nothing on some installs :S 19:16 jcamins Very weird. 19:16 maximep with the same database. A real mistery :S 19:16 jcamins ICU? 19:16 maximep must have a config somewhere that differs, but never found it 19:18 * jcamins responded. 19:19 maximep and then on https://lionelgroulx.koha.ccsr.qc.ca $b has 1500 results and a has 28788. /me is confused 19:19 maximep what's ICU ? 19:19 jcamins An option for configuring Zebra. 19:19 jcamins maximep: wow! 19:19 jcamins That's gorgeous! 19:19 jcamins You should share the CSS. 19:20 maximep well it's the web, anyone has access to it =) 19:20 jcamins And the course reserves code! 19:20 maximep aaaaaaaaah I wish I could share that one 19:20 maximep my first koha page 19:20 jcamins maximep: well, yeah, anyone can get the CSS. I meant, you should publicize that. It's awesome! 19:21 maximep well there's also template changes to do it :/ 19:22 jcamins You should share that too, then. 19:24 maximep our 3.2 version looked like this https://soreltracy.koha.ccsr.qc.ca/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=test&idx= , but we kept it simpler for 3.6 19:25 maximep when we had to basically redo it from scratch 19:25 jcamins Wow, that's even prettier. 19:25 jcamins You should get your changes into Koha proper so you don't have to rebase. 19:25 maximep yeah but it's full of jqtransform bullshit that isn't accessible 19:26 jcamins Oh, hm. 19:26 jcamins That's a disadvantage. 19:26 jcamins Well, is there any way to pull that out of the templates? 19:26 jcamins So that the template changes are just adding IDs, etc.? 19:26 maximep probably 19:27 jcamins You should do that. 19:27 jcamins Then put the jQuery on the wiki so I can crib from it. ;) 19:27 maximep trust me, I wish we could and had time to share all this 19:27 jcamins Oh, you have a contract that doesn't allow you to open source it? Ugh. 19:27 maximep were supposed to be able to do it in a few months 19:27 jcamins Yay! 19:37 oleonard Okay, this enhancement just needs one... more... thing... Aaaaaand..... Oh, now it's broken. 19:38 jcamins oleonard: lol. What are you working on? 19:38 oleonard Bug 3215 19:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart" 19:38 jcamins Ah. 19:39 jcamins That's a good one. 19:40 oleonard One thing was broken before lunch, now two are. Who came in during lunch and broke the second thing? 19:43 * jcamins didn't. 19:48 jcamins You know, it's really depressing the way it's dark at 2:45. 19:50 maximep @wunder YUL 19:50 huginn` maximep: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 0.0�C (2:48 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: (Falling). 19:51 maximep heavy snow all day here 19:51 jcamins Just raining here. 19:51 oleonard @wunder 45701 19:51 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 2.0�C (2:50 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady). 19:51 maximep never found how to get the weather for quebec city with that bot 19:51 maximep @wunder quebec city 19:51 huginn` maximep: Error: No such location could be found. 19:51 maximep @wunder quebec 19:51 huginn` maximep: Error: No such location could be found. 19:52 maximep @wunder yqc 19:52 huginn` maximep: The current temperature in Aupaluk, Quebec is -29.0�C (1:00 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -32.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). 19:52 maximep aupaluk ?!?! 19:52 jcamins @wunder cyqb 19:52 huginn` jcamins: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -5.0�C (2:22 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Ice Pellets. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: (Falling). 19:52 maximep wow. 19:52 oleonard @wunder cyqb 19:52 maximep of course u found it in 30 secs 19:52 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -5.0�C (2:22 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Ice Pellets. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: (Falling). 19:53 oleonard Damn, and I took 32! 19:53 oleonard maximep: I looked it up on http://www.wunderground.com, which provides the info to the bot 19:54 jcamins As did I. 19:54 maximep @wunder 71392 19:54 huginn` maximep: Error: No such location could be found. 19:54 maximep cool 19:54 maximep cyqb, heh 20:09 jcamins Ooh! It's sun! 20:09 maximep sun ? forgot what it looks like 20:09 oleonard The code for my local weather station is "KOHATHEN4." That's freaky. 20:11 maximep mine is KERNBSD 20:11 maximep now I wish I would use bsd 20:12 jcamins My apartment's is APRSWXNET. 20:12 jcamins I should be using wxWindows for all my cross-platform development. 20:13 maximep no u shouldnt :p 20:14 * oleonard thinks he's got the glitches on Bug 3215 worked out but will have to wait 'til Monday to be sure 20:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart" 20:14 jcamins maximep: no, you're right. 20:14 * oleonard waves goodbye to #koha 20:14 * jcamins didn't like wxWindows very much. 20:14 jcamins Have a good weekend. 20:14 maximep cya 20:46 chris_n [off] looks like another innocent soul has followed the pied piper of redmond 20:54 * Guest689 weaves 20:54 * wizzyrea waves 20:54 wizzyrea weaving is fun too though 20:55 jcamins Hi wizzyrea! 20:55 wizzyrea hi there :) 21:04 jcamins wizzyrea: have you ever made the gnocchi with regular potatoes? 21:21 wizzyrea hm 21:21 wizzyrea now that's a good question. 21:21 wizzyrea I always thought you really *needed* a potato ricer 21:21 wizzyrea so probably not 21:22 jcamins Neither have I. I have potatoes to use, and I suspect they may be a bit too old for baked potatoes. 21:28 jcamins Hi NateC. 21:28 * jcamins wonders why wahanui decided not to say "I LIKE SPACE" this time. 21:29 NateC Hi jcamins! 21:44 trea1 i'll just leave this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iN5jPQdJXYE#! 21:46 wizzyrea ha 21:46 jcamins Hehe. 22:06 * jcamins gives drojf the duct tape. 22:06 bag NateC? 22:06 bag bummer no wahanui 22:51 maximep 3.6.3 & 3.4.8, yay 23:03 mib_v9kgbo Greetings Koha enthusiasts! My name is Jess, and this is my first time chatting. 23:05 maximep i'm afraid there won't be too much people in here on a friday night 23:06 maximep on that note, good weekend everyone! 23:16 mib_v9kgbo Ah, no worries. Does anyone have experience with local use statistics? 23:16 jcamins mib_v9kgbo: you create a special statistics patron and check books out to that patron. 23:18 jcamins mib_v9kgbo: it should be in the manual. 23:20 jcamins mib_v9kgbo: what problem are you having? 23:20 jcamins (I'm only sort of here, but I'll answer if I can) 23:50 mib_v9kgbo Sorry for the delayed response here; duty called. :) My question is, how does one view local use stats for a particular group of items? 23:51 mib_v9kgbo I've been trying to set up a report that would give me the info, but haven't been successful yet. 23:51 mib_v9kgbo However, I'm also pretty new to reports in Koha! 23:52 mib_v9kgbo Our library does have a statistical patron set up for tracking in-house use. 23:53 jcamins reports library? 23:53 jcamins report library? 23:53 jcamins Argh! 23:53 jcamins (we have a bot that's supposed to answer that question) 23:54 jcamins http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Track_In_House_Use 23:59 apaes Hi everyone