Time  Nick         Message
23:40 chris_n      heya cait
22:57 matts        cool !
22:09 cait         hi #koha
22:07 druthb       sekjal++
21:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7319 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve specificity of title and breadcrumbs on acquisitions Z39.50 search pages
21:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7324 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Show alternate email as mailto link on patron summary
21:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7333 trivial, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Cleaning up tests to use sample data
21:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7331 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, duncan, Pushed to Master , Circulation.pl generates errors in the log
21:58 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7319 - Improving title and breadcrumbs on acquisitions Z39.50 search pages
21:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7330 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , System preferences editor generates errors in the log with each search
21:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7324: Show alternate email as mailto: / hide labels when field is empty
21:58 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: welcome to Marc Balmer, #167
21:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7326 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, ian.walls, Pushed to Stable , longoverdue.pl was hardcoded to 1 year, is now a parameter
21:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7325 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Editing a list generates errors in the log
21:58 jenkins_koha * marc: Bail out early if an invalid language is used.
21:58 jenkins_koha * wizzyrea: Bug 7333 - modifying Members.t to use a branchcode that exists in the sample data
21:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7323 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Javascript error when editing list
21:58 jenkins_koha * duncan: Bug 7331 - Circulation.pl generates errors in the log
21:58 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7330 - System preferences editor generates errors in the log with each search
21:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7321 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Silence warns in Koha.pm
21:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7313 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Untranslatable strings in 'search to hold' feature
21:58 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 7326: longoverdue.pl hardcoded to 366 days maximum
21:58 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7325 - Editing a list generates errors in the log
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, sam-sanders, Needs Signoff , Unit tests required for all C4 modules
21:57 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7323 - Javascript error when editing list
21:57 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7321: Silence some warns in Koha.pm
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7309 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add NORMARCslim2intranetDetail.xsl for detail view in intranet
21:57 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7313: Untranslatable strings in 'Search to hold' feature
21:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 5327: Added unit test for C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/RenewAll.pm"
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7287 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , overdue notification is processed several times if some sites do not have rules
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7275 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, juan.sieira, Pushed to Master , Pagination lost when click in the option "Show more" of facets column
21:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 5327: Patch removes unneeded self=shift from TTParser::unshift_token"
21:57 jenkins_koha * duncan: Bug 5327: Added unit test for C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/RenewAll.pm
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7270 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Removing double itemtype on shelve contents page when no icon is shown
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7262 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, juan.sieira, Pushed to Master , No calendar present in holidays module when there are quotes in title or description
21:57 jenkins_koha * chrish: Added missing reference case to Boolean.t and corrected count
21:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: welcome to Duncan Tyler, developer 166 !
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7239 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, henridamien, Pushed to Master , Acquisitions, add order to basket, from new, no item field filed, AcqCreateItem=ordering cause internal error
21:57 jenkins_koha * chrish: Added missing reference case to Boolean.t and corrected count
21:57 jenkins_koha * chrish: Bug 5327: Patch removes unneeded self=shift from TTParser::unshift_token
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7227 trivial, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "Delete all items" action should redirect to the detail view, not the items view
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7202 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , z39.50 search on bib edit not working
21:57 jenkins_koha * duncan: Added unit tests for Scrubber
21:57 jenkins_koha * duncan: Added unit test for AuthoritiesMarc/UNIMARC.pm
21:57 jenkins_koha * duncan: Added unit tests for Sip Checksum.pm
21:57 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7309 - Add NORMARCslim2intranetDetail.xsl for detail view in intranet
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7197 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Pushed to Master , ES translation of the Debian readme
21:57 jenkins_koha * sophie.meynieux: Bug 7287 : Fix overdue notification if a branch given as parameter does not have rules
21:57 jenkins_koha * juan.sieira: Bug 7275 - Pagination lost when click in the option "Show more" of facets column
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7164 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , add Koha history timeline tab to 'About' page
21:57 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7270: Removing double itemtype on shelve contents page when no icon is shown
21:57 jenkins_koha * juan.sieira: Bug 7262 - No calendar present in holidays module when there are quotes in title or description
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7160 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , paying fines throws error
21:57 jenkins_koha * chrish: bug 7239 fix to avoid error being thrown even though a record is created
21:57 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7227, "Delete all items" action should redirect to the detail view
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 enhancement, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7139 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Log circulation messags
21:57 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7135 - in addbiblio, make save button floating to have it on always on screen
21:57 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7202 - z39.50 search on bib edit not working
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7135 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , in addbiblio, make save button floating to have it on always on screen
21:57 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 7197 - add a Spanish readme file to the packages
21:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7164 follow-up history.txt and perlcritic compliance
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2534 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Viewing items table on item edit screen requires horizontal scrolling
21:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7164 minor follow-up
21:57 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 7164 - add Koha history timeline tab to 'About' page
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7121 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , remove comma on items info
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7093 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, ian.walls, Pushed to Master , Placeholders for suggestion table in suggestion related mails broken
21:57 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 7160: paying fines throws error
21:57 jenkins_koha * info: Bug 7143: Follow up patch for Updating about.tt
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7123 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , barcode should be one word
21:57 jenkins_koha * info: Bug 7143: Updating About.tt for Ian Walls, Chris Nighswonger and Paul Poulain
21:57 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7139 : Log addition and deletion of circulation messages
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6935 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , SYStem preference XISBNDailyLimit preference text error
21:57 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7135: Save button options
21:57 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Alternate fix for Bug 2534 - Viewing items table on item edit screen requires horizontal scrolling
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6917 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Acquisitions reports: Dates filters doesn't work when they are not selected on row or column
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6865 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients
21:57 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7121 - remove comma on items info
21:57 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 7093: placeholds for suggestion table not working in notices
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6803 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Removing remote include in MODS xslt
21:57 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 Update biblio & deletedbiblio tables
21:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: welcome Fabio, you're 165th !
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, P3, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation
21:57 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7123 - barcode should be one word
21:57 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6935: Correct XISBNDailyLimit for new installations
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6663 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , would be nice to put ranges of dates in the calendar
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7245 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Errors in MySQL tables population with mandatory data for italian installation
21:57 jenkins_koha * alex.arnaud: bug 6917 Dates filters doesn't work when they are not selected on row or column
21:57 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 6865 - Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7082 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Template improvements for better translatability
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7336 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , memberentry.pl generates an error in the log
21:57 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 6803: Replacing remote XSL include
21:57 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 : Categories table
21:57 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716: Document biblioitems and deletedbiblioitems
21:57 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 Document deleteditems table
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7215 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, brendan, Pushed to Master , callnumber versus itemcallnumber
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7198 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , overdue report does not display patron name if firstname and/or surname are null
21:57 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6716 - Document Items Table
21:57 jenkins_koha * nengard: bug6716: documenting reserves and old_reserves tables
21:57 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 6663: Features for holidays.pl with datepicker
21:57 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 7245 Tables population with mandatory data for italian installation
21:57 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7215 : The Module changed, but the tests weren't updated to reflect that
21:57 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7082: Template improvements for better translatability
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7159 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, wizzyrea, RESOLVED FIXED, Add branchcode to circulation.pl search
21:57 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7336 - memberentry.pl generates an error in the log
21:57 jenkins_koha * info: Bug 7215 - changed callnumber PRESET field to itemcallnumber
21:57 jenkins_koha * gmc: bug 7198: show patron name in overdue list even if name column is null
21:57 jenkins_koha * lrea: Bug 7159 - Add branchcode to circulation.pl search (take two, revising with Owen's suggestion)
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6923 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, can't load help files
21:57 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating distro specific install files
21:57 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating main INSTALL instructions
21:57 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6923 : Fixing a bug introduced by 6755 - was blocking help being used or edited
21:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #69: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/69/
21:41 trea         hehe
21:40 * jcamins    isn't at his computer, and doesn't remember his bugzilla password.
21:40 jcamins      Or at least don't use any hyphens, if you feel you need similar codes.
21:40 trea         add it to the bug :P
21:40 jcamins      Use unique strings for *all* authorized values.
21:39 jcamins      Right.
21:39 trea         use unique strings for itype codes
21:38 trea         so, to summate, dont' do that!
21:37 jcamins      Because obviously that's not what it should be doing if the system worked the way we wanted it to.
21:37 jcamins      Since C4::Search is broken.
21:37 jcamins      I mean, given the way C4::Search works.
21:37 jcamins      Combined with the fact that ,phr doesn't actually use the phrase indexes, it just uses unfuzzy matching on the word index, BOOK logically *should* find results for E-BOOK.
21:35 jcamins      It makes it a separate word.
21:35 trea         you think the issue is the hyphen?
21:35 jcamins      If they use EBOOK, that might work. I'm not sure.
21:34 trea         yea, didn't figure it was
21:34 jcamins      Nope.
21:34 trea         editing itype codes retroactive? i'm guessing probably no
21:34 jcamins      Yup.
21:33 trea         good thing there is a workaround
21:33 jcamins      The problem is that C4::Search doesn't actually generate valid queries for phrase indexes.
21:33 trea         neat
21:32 jcamins      Fixing it will require a rewrite of C4::Search.
21:32 trea         okay
21:32 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , itypes with similar codes throw off search results
21:32 jcamins      trea: I just saw your report of bug 7456.
21:32 trea         yes
21:32 jcamins      trea: around?
21:15 jenkins_koha Starting build #69 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 3 mo. 14 j ago)
20:31 oleonard     Bye #koha
20:31 * oleonard   hopes he remembers where he left off on Monday morning
20:28 jcamins      I like it!
20:28 oleonard     ...maybe with a [X] to remove?
20:28 jcamins      Also very nice.
20:28 oleonard     And then something like this: http://screencast.com/t/WQ1eOOBP
20:16 nengard      oleonard++
20:09 jcamins      I'm not 100% sure how to handle that. It's a puzzlement.
20:08 jcamins      I've concluded that will have to be done with a server-side data structure.
20:07 jcamins      I still need a "select all items in search" option.
20:01 oleonard     Next I want to make the link change when you click "add to cart"
20:00 * oleonard   did that by having the script check the contents of the cart's cookie and compare that to the results
19:59 jcamins      I like it.
19:57 oleonard     What do y'all think? http://screencast.com/t/amBh6Mu6
19:51 jcamins      schuster: ah, you're no fun.
19:48 schuster     just glad I don't have to re-image or send out snapshot to the 100 workstations throughout our 67 locations during an upgrade..  LOVE web based Koha...
19:45 wizzyrea     whatever. I'm out.
19:41 rhcl         I guess I'm not very territorial, and don't see a problem with occasional collaboration or comparison between projects.
19:38 wizzyrea     just sayin. ;)
19:37 rhcl         pointed point noted
19:36 wizzyrea     evergreen's cool. I don't work on it though.
19:35 jcamins      I wonder how hard it would be.
19:35 jcamins      This seems like it would be a useful feature.
19:35 jcamins      I would like the Koha cataloging interface to use javascript to cache unsaved changes.
19:34 oleonard     Everyone does dumb stuff all the time. So often, in fact, we have a name for it: Normal stuff.
19:34 rhcl         Anybody wanna see my picture? This is the recommended EG setup for 12-16 libraries with 1,000,000 bibs before deduplication and to provide maximum reliability with minimal downtime.
19:33 * wizzyrea   has not observed it
19:32 druthb       I do dumb stuff all the time, wizzyrea.
19:28 wizzyrea     and asked someone to decrement you
19:27 wizzyrea     (even though I'm sure it wasn't)
19:27 wizzyrea     dumb
19:27 wizzyrea     no I think one day you thought you did something dome
19:27 nengard      heh
19:24 druthb       (I know that's how jcamins did, because I'm the knucklehead that did it.)
19:23 druthb       probably the same way jcamins got one, by someone using -- instead of a colon to address me.
19:23 wizzyrea     then he did something awesome and passed me up again.
19:23 wizzyrea     hehe I had gmcharlt there for a few days
19:22 nengard      druthb who gave you a minus????
19:22 huginn       druthb: "rangi": 504, "oleonard": 421, "gmcharlt": 283, "wizzyrea": 278, "chris_n": 250, "cait": 226, "nengard": 206, "sekjal": 195, "paul_p": 158, "jcamins": 150, "kf": 143, "druthb": 138, "magnuse": 125, "slef": 121, "eythian": 78, "hdl": 62, "hdl_laptop": 60, "biblibre": 56, "jwagner": 54, "fredericd": 53, "thd": 45, "atz": 44, "kmkale": 40, "pianohacker": 39, and "larsw": 37
19:22 druthb       @most increased
19:22 druthb       Never in a bajillion years did I think..  nvm.
19:21 huginn       druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 138 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 137.
19:21 druthb       @karma druthb
19:21 jcamins      druthb++
19:20 wizzyrea     druthb++ indeed
19:20 sekjal       druthb++
19:19 druthb       you're welcome, collsk12.
19:19 collsk12     WOW! You guys/gals ROCK!! Thank you so very much.
19:18 jcamins      I recommend using that one.
19:18 jcamins      It's a pretty great script.
19:18 wizzyrea     so you don't nuke "on order" records, for example
19:18 wizzyrea     such as the ability to look at how long they have been empty
19:18 druthb       Yes...and it *won't* require a reindex, and has some options that some folks have needed.
19:17 * druthb     blushes a lil.
19:17 wizzyrea     there is also a script that druthb wrote: https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/koha-migration-toolbox/blobs/master/koha_fixes/drop_empty_bibs.pl
19:17 druthb       note, if you do what nicole suggests, you will need to reindex afterward, or those bibs will still show up in search results.
19:16 collsk12     thank you, nicole! I appreciate it!!
19:14 nengard      DELETE FROM biblio where biblionumber NOT IN (SELECT biblionumber from items);
19:14 nengard      INSERT into deletedbiblioitems (SELECT * FROM biblioitems where biblionumber NOT IN (SELECT biblionumber from items));
19:14 nengard      INSERT into deletedbiblio (SELECT * FROM biblio where biblionumber NOT IN (SELECT biblionumber from items));
19:14 nengard      collsk12 i do these three commands (after backing up):
19:11 collsk12     could anyone help me remove all of the records that do not have items attached?
19:08 schuster     Late lunch!
19:08 schuster     and the book suggestion mbalmer
19:07 schuster     OK well that's about all I can do until I "refresh" on that laptop from home this weekend...  again thanks for the help jcamins..
19:05 jcamins      git fetch {remote} doesn't change the files that are currently checked out.
19:05 jcamins      That's why I always use fetch.
19:05 jcamins      Oh, yeah, that'd mess things up.
19:04 schuster     I suspect part of my problem was the pull from the LibLime repo that caused things to go crazy.  I did that last Monday and didn't think it did anything, but then Wednesday I realized it actually had pulled the files, but git often doesn't tell me everything in an understandable librarian way...
19:03 schuster     check each step of the way to see where I break Koha...  Now that I know git stash that will help!
19:03 jcamins      Makes sense.
19:03 schuster     I ws thinking now that I kind of understand what is going on(yes be afraid everyone) I may clear and restart to make sure I have a working copy and then take small steps
19:02 jcamins      But it seems to me that git pull origin master should work.
19:01 jcamins      Full disclosure: I don't actually use a local "master" branch at all.
19:01 jcamins      Hm.
19:00 schuster     hmmm - I keep getting your config specifies to merge with the ref "master" from the remote, but no such ref was fetched.
18:58 jcamins      Anyone here a fan of colonial American cookery?
18:54 jcamins      That will bring you to the very latest master.
18:54 jcamins      Then do a git pull.
18:54 jcamins      git checkout master
18:54 schuster     so before I do a "git pull" - where should I be?  do I need to git checkout master or
18:41 jcamins      schuster: did that do it?
18:32 schuster     ah...  now understands interesting...
18:31 jcamins      But you probably get the idea.
18:31 jcamins      Or...
18:31 jcamins      or ed .git/config
18:31 jcamins      or nano .git/config
18:31 jcamins      vim .git/config
18:30 jcamins      cd ~/kohaclone
18:30 schuster     jcamins - interesting...  have to figure out how to get to .git place...
18:28 wahanui      jcamins: that doesn't look right
18:28 jcamins      Change "git://" to "http://"
18:28 jcamins      Find the [remote "origin"] section.
18:28 jcamins      Open up .git/config
18:28 * druthb     sees her name mentioned, waves at schuster.
18:27 jcamins      Easy peasy.
18:27 schuster     Cool...  unfortunately the network is sooo locked down here at work I can't do git pull etc... directly I would have to do this via git http - which I'm not sure I'm ready for.
18:25 jcamins      schuster: I have a list of useful resources on git at home. Remind me next time you see me and I'll e-mail them to you.
18:24 schuster     Wow the O'Reilly site even has some video's on git with people talking the example of what "rebase" does was really interesting!  I now understand Rebase better and how it interacts with git...
18:19 mbalmer      *shudder*
18:19 schuster     I have the O'Reilly MYSQL in a nutshell that I find invaluable!(thanks to druthb for that recommendation!)
18:18 mbalmer      you can get all O'Reilly books electronically for 5$, btw.
18:17 schuster     Nope but will find it this weekend!
18:17 mbalmer      oh, there is a wonderful book on git by O'Reilly, you have that one?
18:17 jcamins      There's nothing wrong with having done a git fetch. It just means that if you use your own master branch, you'll have to do an additional git pull at some point.
18:16 schuster     still trying to learn about all these git commands and when it is better to do what.  Also finds jcamins a wiz with git...
18:16 jcamins      It's just a different workflow.
18:16 jcamins      I always do git fetch instead of git pull.
18:16 schuster     ok and the git pull will take care of the incorrect fetch
18:15 jcamins      (if you're on master)
18:15 jcamins      No. You did a git fetch somewhere along the line, and now you need to do a git pull.
18:15 schuster     So evidently I did a git pull somewhere along the line? and now need to rebase?  or if I just do a git pull it will clear itself up?
18:15 jcamins      That means you need to do a git pull.
18:14 schuster     This is turning out to be a learning git Friday...  I'm actually understanding some of this...  OK so I did my git reset --hard - am able to switch back to master, and now it says I should "fast-forward"
18:11 jcamins      ^^ that might allow you to save the results.
18:11 jcamins      schuster: git reset && git stash && git checkout origin/master
18:11 jcamins      oleonard: I would think so.
18:09 maximep      bon matin
18:08 schuster     guess I will have to go back to git reset --hard and start over...
18:07 mbalmer      bonsoir
18:07 schuster     when I do git stash and then try to change branches it tells me I must resolve your current index first...
18:06 oleonard     we foreach( @newresults ) three times in opac-search.pl. Isn't that inefficient?
18:05 sekjal       then track with git
18:05 sekjal       store each biblio as a MARCXML file
18:04 sekjal       would just need a filesystem based database
18:04 sekjal       schuster: could be done
18:04 schuster     You could blame and see who added the NON authorized authority heading!
18:03 wizzyrea     heh
18:03 schuster     Wishes they had implemented this on MARC records!!!  LOL!!!
18:03 schuster     Yes I was just looking at that stash vs pop - pop deletes the item from stash basically was the difference evidently you can stash several things...  Wow GIT is truely amazing...
18:00 wizzyrea     or http://ariejan.net/2008/04/23/git-using-the-stash
17:59 wizzyrea     http://book.git-scm.com/4_stashing.html
17:59 wizzyrea     stash has lots of options
17:58 wizzyrea     s/say/save
17:58 wizzyrea     you can also git stash save "the name of the thing you want to say"
17:58 * druthb     could be wrong.  It happens.
17:58 * wizzyrea   either
17:58 druthb       If you only have one thing stashed, they're the same thing.  I think apply will grab the *oldest* thing, while pop takes the *most-recent*.  IIRC; I never stash more than one thing at a time.
17:57 * wizzyrea   has never used pop
17:56 schuster     what's the difference in apply and pop - pop makes me want a soda/Coke - but they just installed new machines in the breakroom and nothing in them...
17:56 jcamins      git stash pop
17:56 wizzyrea     git stash apply
17:56 schuster     so when I go back to the "broken" branch what do I have to do in order to active my "stash"  lol!!!
17:55 wizzyrea     yep
17:55 schuster     ah a new one on me...  git stash and then I can change branches to make sure my instance is still working in another branch?
17:54 wizzyrea     git stash if you don't want to lose it
17:54 jcamins      schuster: yeah, git reset --hard && git checkout origin/master && git branch -D branchname && git checkout -b branchname origin/master
17:54 wizzyrea     schuster: git stash
17:54 schuster     it won't let me change branches though as I have "uncommitted" changes in existing branch...
17:53 schuster     jcamins - thanks - I have a branch that seems to have "broken" my testing so wanted to back out of it before doing it again to trace my steps more carefully.
17:53 * oleonard   is surprised to see Kyle Hall break his long silence on the mailing list
17:50 rhcl         well, rhcl is relocating to the breakroom for lunchee.
17:50 wizzyrea     oic
17:48 jcamins      So between that and going to eircom.net and seeing it's based in Dublin, that seemed logical. ;)
17:47 jcamins      Eire = Ireland.
17:47 rhcl         'k. I can see eircom is europe, and eir =? eirland?
17:47 * jcamins    thinks he's in Waterford, Ireland.
17:47 * wizzyrea   doesn't remember
17:46 wizzyrea     portugal?
17:46 jcamins      Ireland?
17:46 rhcl         where is barrc located?
17:45 jcamins      schuster: to delete your branch you have to check out a different branch, then run git branch -D branchname.
17:45 rhcl         later
17:45 jcamins      Good luck.
17:45 Barrc        OK - its been a long day (which should  have ended for me 45 minutes ago) - I'm calling it.....have a good weekend all.
17:45 schuster     jcamins - so if you do git reset --hard blabla - can you then also delete the git branch? or just reuse it to start over?
17:42 jcamins      Barrc: as far as I know they still haven't had any downtime, but I haven't been there in years.
17:41 Barrc        wow, I'd say there was some pain when it went down after 3 years!
17:41 jcamins      wizzyrea: right.
17:41 wizzyrea     if you turn off the zebra cron.
17:41 wizzyrea     well and you can still circ while it's rebuilding
17:41 jcamins      Barrc: it leaves me with a very skewed idea of what "acceptable downtime" is.
17:40 jcamins      Barrc: my first job was for a company that had 100% uptime for three years.
17:40 jcamins      Barrc: granted.
17:40 Barrc        Mind you , having said all that, a full rebuild would be an acceptable amount of time compared to leaving the system down!
17:39 jcamins      Barrc: yeah, this is painful stuff.
17:39 Barrc        jcamins: Indeed. My head hurts now - it's been a long week!
17:38 jcamins      Barrc: I guess you see the problem I meant?
17:37 wahanui      Barrc: I forgot that
17:37 Barrc        forget that
17:37 Barrc        jcamins: sure, but rsync will really only concern itself with the file system
17:37 * wizzyrea   gets the popcorn
17:36 wizzyrea     it's a race!
17:36 jcamins      I will share them if I get to them first.
17:36 wizzyrea     definitely
17:36 jcamins      If you do make those changes, please share them!
17:36 jcamins      wizzyrea: right, that's what I was suggesting with bitmasks.
17:36 jcamins      (and rsync is very brittle... what happens if the system crashes hard while it's rsyncing)
17:36 Barrc        wizzyrea: Thinking the same..
17:36 wizzyrea     but there's no way to do that out of the box
17:36 wizzyrea     I suppose you could modify the script to compensate for that though
17:35 jcamins      But if you have 500k records, you really don't want to have to reindex whenever there's a failure.
17:35 jcamins      So, nothing *too* critical.
17:35 jcamins      It's not data loss, just index corruption.
17:34 Barrc        So , you run the risk of losing some data between the last sync and the fail.
17:34 jcamins      If you just replicated to slave, the secondary instance might miss some, if rebuild_zebra ran on the first instance and set done=1 before it ran.
17:33 jcamins      However, *both* instances need to process *every* line.
17:33 jcamins      On both instances, rebuild_zebra is setting done=1 after rebuilding.
17:32 jcamins      Barrc: the problem is one of synchronization.
17:31 * jcamins    has spent a lot of time thinking about this.
17:31 jcamins      You then have the synchronization problem of making sure each instance knows which bit it should respond to, but if you used something like chef, it wouldn't be too hard.
17:31 Barrc        jcamins: can't it be replicated to a slave MySQL server with the rest?
17:29 jcamins      If you modify how zebraqueue works, turning "done" into a bitmask or adding additional columns, you could do it, though.
17:27 Barrc        Yes, LB would be a problem....some lateral thinking required!
17:27 jcamins      And means you can't do load balancing.
17:26 jcamins      It has some latency, though.
17:26 Barrc        Still toying with all ideas at the moment!
17:26 jcamins      Yeah, that's how I've been doing it.
17:26 jcamins      Barrc: oh, so a warm backup?
17:26 Barrc        rsync? and a index rebuild on fail?
17:25 jcamins      You need a way to synchronize all the Koha instances.
17:25 Barrc        What would be the problem with zebraqueue?
17:24 jcamins      There's a zebraqueue table to tell the indexer what to index.
17:24 jcamins      The zebraqueue daemon is deprecated.
17:24 jcamins      Barrc: I didn't have an automatic failover for mysql.
17:24 Barrc        zebraqueue? Isn't that depricated?
17:24 Barrc        jcamins: Cool, did you replicate MySQL too? I am almost done there. The idea is master/slave MySQL with rsync increments. Round robin DNS to redirect if the box goes down
17:23 jcamins      The problem is the zebraqueue.
17:23 jcamins      Barrc: I did some work to figure out how, but ultimately my clients weren't interested in paying for it.
17:22 rhcl         seems like you could approach that through apache, but I don't have any specific info
17:22 Barrc        I am just building some rsync remote servers and tinkering with round robin DNS, has anyone done this, before I reinvent the wheel!
17:21 Barrc        While I'm at it is has anyone got any failover setup for Koha?
17:18 rhcl         one of my disagreements with workflows, but at least there is a Linux EG client.
17:18 Barrc        as we host all the sites in a datacenter I don't want to start configuring VPN's for each sites to tunnell the client!
17:18 rhcl         yea, ack that
17:17 Barrc        Staff web client
17:17 Barrc        rhcl: Yep, I am for larger sites, and it's going well - biggest let down is lack of web client in Evergreen
17:17 jcamins      rhcl: never mind.
17:17 jcamins      Barrc: sorry, I meant you, not rhcl.
17:17 jcamins      rhcl: I'm doing that.
17:17 rhcl         consider Evergreen?
17:16 Barrc        rhcl: and have been for a while. Just thinking, recently, of move them all onto one backend MySQL cluster and seperating their front ends....
17:16 rhcl         Barrc: are you running each library in a vm with an individual instance of Koha?
17:15 Barrc        wondering now if I have under-spec'd things a little!
17:13 wizzyrea     which is middling
17:13 wizzyrea     had 11k hits last month
17:13 Barrc        OK, that is hefty. Most of our sites are single branches with 2-5 users and less than 1000 borrowers, hence the small spec!
17:13 wahanui      the opac is for patrons
17:13 wizzyrea     the OPAC
17:11 wizzyrea     now, hits
17:11 wizzyrea     117k borrowers
17:11 wizzyrea     410k bibs, 906k items
17:11 wizzyrea     40 in one db
17:10 jcamins      rhcl: right. Apache, Zebra, and SIP on one, MySQL on the other.
17:10 Barrc        40 libraries (branches) on the one Koha DB or 40 Koha DBs on the one back (MySQL)
17:10 wizzyrea     but I have 40 libraries
17:10 wizzyrea     real numbers in a sec
17:10 wizzyrea     yes
17:10 wizzyrea     i'll get you an idea
17:10 rhcl         ?
17:10 rhcl         wizzyrea: is the Koha app on the apache machiine
17:10 wizzyrea     one moment
17:10 wizzyrea     a valid question
17:09 jcamins      Barrc: you might want to split the MySQL and Apache parts.
17:09 Barrc        client/staff wise
17:09 Barrc        What sort of hits are you getting?
17:09 wizzyrea     because 4 wasn't cutting it on apache.
17:09 jcamins      wizzyrea: so really you have 16GB.
17:09 wizzyrea     yea, there are 8GB on both now.
17:09 jcamins      magnuse: yay!
17:08 jcamins      wizzyrea: yeah, but you have MySQL and Apache on two different machines.
17:08 * maximep    has 5GB for up to 240k
17:08 Barrc        wizzyrea: yeah - benchmarked reasonably good - 8GB, really -  have you seen it swallow that?
17:08 magnuse      wizzyrea and jcamins thanks for nudging me in the direction of jquery - here's my solution: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Add_additional_searches_to_Intranet
17:08 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5473 normal, P2, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , 952 fields should be filled in by Acquisitions
17:08 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 5473 follow-up : removed warn & replace some tabs by 4 spaces
17:08 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_5473: Update items when receiving shipments
17:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #599: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/599/
17:08 jcamins      Well, a lot small.
17:08 wizzyrea     and that seems adequate
17:08 * wizzyrea   has 8GB for just under 800k
17:08 jcamins      That's a bit small.
17:07 wizzyrea     500k on 2gb?
17:07 Barrc        from 750 bibs to 500k
17:07 Barrc        Mem ranging from 512k to 2GB for tiny to midsized sites
17:07 Barrc        It's actually multiple sites across multi VPS, they are all hitting the same problem
17:06 jcamins      And how many records in the database?
17:06 wizzyrea     and how many libraries/concurrent users?
17:06 wizzyrea     Barrc: how much memory have you got in this thing?
17:06 jcamins      Barrc: I'm out of ideas, then.
17:06 wizzyrea     the third question is "What version of Koha are you using?"
17:06 wahanui      wizzyrea: I forgot third question
17:06 wizzyrea     forget the third question
17:06 Barrc        yep, tried most of the usual stuff..
17:06 wizzyrea     the third question is "What version of Koha are you using?
17:05 jcamins      Barrc: lower the Apache maxclients setting.
17:05 Barrc        Huh!?
17:05 jcamins      Barrc: wahanui is a bot.
17:05 wahanui      Barrc: sorry...
17:05 Barrc        wahanui: trying to stop Apache and/or MySQL bringing the VPS down!
17:05 wahanui      second question is "What is the exact error message?"
17:05 jcamins      second question?
17:04 wizzyrea     the second question is "What is the exact error message?"
17:04 wahanui      i heard the first question was "What are you trying to do?"
17:04 wizzyrea     the first question?
17:04 * wizzyrea   is sure they have
17:04 Barrc        Right - I wonder if they have configured Apache and/or MySQL for memory utilisation.......
17:03 * wizzyrea   is pretty sure they use rackspace still
17:03 jcamins      Unless ByWater is no longer using rackspace, which I suppose is possible.
17:02 jcamins      Barrc: Rackspace uses Xen, so ByWater does too.
17:02 Barrc        Some strange memory issues killing the boxes!
17:01 wizzyrea     i think equinox does? but gmcharlt is conferencing
17:01 Barrc        Is anyone running Koha in a VPS environment - specifically on Xen?
17:00 wizzyrea     might be a fun experiment.
17:00 * wizzyrea   has never tried to pull a record from a kete into koha
17:00 wizzyrea     though koha can talk to kete through z39.50
16:59 jcamins      I see lots of uses for showing things only to logged in users.
16:59 wizzyrea     but it may not be actually relevant
16:59 wizzyrea     the video.js thing - that is what made me think about bib details we only show to logged in users
16:59 jcamins      Sorry, I was on video.js.
16:59 wizzyrea     it doesn't have to be kept in koha
16:58 wizzyrea     or even to show the *link* to the content
16:58 jcamins      Here's the practical issue I see: do people really want their videos embedded into their library catalog?
16:58 wizzyrea     imo
16:58 wizzyrea     but for cataloging them - koha is way better.
16:58 wizzyrea     well it might make more sense as a storage facility for sure
16:57 wizzyrea     yay, I think you are picking up what I'm putting down
16:57 jcamins      Kete would make more sense here.
16:57 jcamins      Or, uses being defended under fair use.
16:57 jcamins      The LMS is important for things being used under fair use.
16:57 jcamins      If it were homegrown content, there wouldn't be any reason to use an LMS.
16:56 jcamins      Anyway, sekjal will like it: use video.js to embed the video player into Koha for your home video library.
16:56 jcamins      Okay, maybe not that exciting.
16:56 jcamins      sekjal will like this idea.
16:56 wizzyrea     without requiring them to log into the LMS
16:56 jcamins      An exciting idea!
16:56 * jcamins    had an idea!
16:56 jcamins      Ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:56 * wizzyrea   talks crazy talk
16:56 wizzyrea     and use that method - unless it was a seamless referrer auth to let students in from the library.
16:55 wizzyrea     learning management system (like moodle)
16:55 wizzyrea     but then they would just use a LMS
16:54 wizzyrea     with home grown content
16:54 wizzyrea     be something like an academic institution
16:54 wizzyrea     it would more likely
16:54 * wizzyrea   suspects it would never happen
16:54 wizzyrea     what if there were a company that only provided content
16:54 jcamins      wizzyrea: I'm all for it, just commenting that it doesn't seem particularly probable.
16:53 wizzyrea     right - but what if
16:53 jcamins      And for greater control.
16:53 wizzyrea     jcamins: I'm thinking on the edge of the box really
16:53 jcamins      These services want to force you to use their platforms so that they get all the juicy analytics.
16:53 wizzyrea     ez library assumes that because it came from our site that the user is allowed to create an account
16:52 * jcamins    can't really see it happening, actually.
16:52 wizzyrea     we show a link to logged in users to create their account with ez library
16:52 wizzyrea     we already do that with our ks ez library
16:52 wizzyrea     ^^ yes, that as well
16:52 wizzyrea     but - it could happen
16:52 magnuse      if you only showed it to logged in users you could do referer-based authentication - cool
16:52 * wizzyrea   is not aware of any service that currently expects the *library* to protect their own files
16:51 wizzyrea     only available to their patrons
16:51 wizzyrea     well - what if a library had subscribed digital content
16:51 magnuse      yeah, two variants: hide completely or say "log in to view"
16:51 jcamins      What exactly would be the use of video.js?
16:50 jcamins      Right.
16:50 wizzyrea     or show the result but "you must log in to see this"
16:50 jcamins      (or silently remove it from search results)
16:50 jcamins      If not, display a warning that the user can't view the record.
16:50 * wizzyrea   wonders about performance
16:49 jcamins      If it should, pass the record on.
16:49 wizzyrea     (I saw this and thought "wonder how this could work with Koha" http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=80088&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=iti+roundup)
16:49 jcamins      It's simple. Prior to display you filter the data through a plugin that decides whether or not the record should be shown to the given user.
16:49 jcamins      Very difficult otherwise.
16:49 wizzyrea     explain.
16:49 magnuse      i had a library that was intersted in koha about a year back that was interested in that, but it did not exist at the time
16:48 jcamins      *really easy
16:48 jcamins      That would be really to implement if we used TT plugins.
16:48 wizzyrea     i can think of lots of uses for that
16:48 magnuse      i don't think so
16:48 wizzyrea     if not - that would be neat
16:47 wizzyrea     does koha have a mechanism for showing certain bibs only to logged in users (opac)
16:44 * paul_p     sometimes search for something I already knows... but in a different situation !
16:43 jcamins      git reset --hard blabla will remove the changes entirely.
16:43 jcamins      That will leave the changes in the working tree.
16:43 jcamins      git reset blabla
16:43 jcamins      paul_p: incidentally, the spelling in English is "phew," but it's pronounced "pfiou."
16:43 paul_p       git question: what's the opposite of "git add blabla" ?
16:41 jcamins      paul_p++
16:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6210 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Choose framework on Merge
16:40 paul_p       next on my list is bug 6210
16:39 paul_p       next on my list is 6210
16:39 paul_p       pfiou (frenchism) 5549 commented...
16:35 wizzyrea     imo
16:35 wizzyrea     iom
16:35 wizzyrea     and kete is. challenging.
16:34 magnuse      they should hire some wonderful finn to make packages for debian :-)
16:33 magnuse      took me about a day when i tried, might take you shorter, though
16:32 sekjal       and, having never installed kete before, it may take me quite a while
16:32 magnuse      ah, sounds somewhat familiar ;-)
16:31 sekjal       sekjal:  only a lack of time
16:31 magnuse      sekjal: what's stopping you?  ;-)
16:31 wizzyrea     that's a lot of k's
16:30 wizzyrea     what would we keep in our koha kete?
16:30 oleonard     Clicking the menu button a second time doesn't close the menu. Stuff I'm used to from the YUI version
16:30 wizzyrea     hrmm
16:30 oleonard     For instance: triggering a second menu doesn't automatically close the first
16:29 oleonard     I'm curious whether some of the less polished aspects of it are bugs or just defaults.
16:29 wizzyrea     there's still time!
16:29 oleonard     I should have.
16:29 wizzyrea     you said "Then release it already!"
16:28 * oleonard   was scolded in the #jquery channel for using pre-release code
16:28 sekjal       I so very much want to set up kete.koha-community.org
16:28 magnuse      one word: kete
16:28 rhcl         their recommended computer architecture for a large array is pretty high-level stuff
16:28 jcamins      Whoops.
16:28 * jcamins    took you seriously.
16:27 jcamins      Or do you mean Greenstone?
16:27 wizzyrea     oleonard: that is so pretty
16:27 * sekjal     stops himself from saying something really dumb just to continue this joke
16:27 magnuse      cool!
16:27 oleonard     magnuse: Yes
16:27 wizzyrea     their community is pretty awesome, you should check it out
16:27 magnuse      oleonard: beautiful! is that a "moving to jquery (ui)" thing?
16:27 wizzyrea     I hear there's another FOSS ILS
16:27 jcamins      sekjal: I've heard of this thing called Koha that might be free, too.
16:27 * wizzyrea   giggles
16:26 sekjal       jcamins:  well, I heard it's free
16:26 jcamins      sekjal: why would we use Evergreen?
16:26 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , User Configurable Slips
16:26 wizzyrea     bug 7001
16:26 paul_p       MANY QA comments !
16:26 oleonard     Okay, toolbar button menus working fairly well: http://screencast.com/t/zUJurzM6
16:26 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, ian.walls, Signed Off , Hourly Loans
16:26 jcamins      bug 5549
16:26 wizzyrea     paul_p: I'm also almost done with 7001
16:25 * wizzyrea   does a double take
16:25 * paul_p     working on test/QA of 5549 ... will probably be the longest comment ever !!!
16:25 sekjal       we could use Evergreen
16:25 sekjal       crazy idea:  what if we put the jQuery and SQL "libraries" into an Integrated Library System, and made them searchable?
16:24 magnuse      gah, i thought i had looked at the library... thanks folks! now i must see if i can insert a new index exactly where i want it...
16:23 * wizzyrea   pokes through the library - some new stuff!
16:22 wizzyrea     something about only when people were logged in
16:22 wizzyrea     oh edveal - weren't you asking about something like this the other day? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Add_a_link_to_the_header_only_if_a_patron_is_logged_into_the_OPAC
16:22 magnuse      jcamins: ah yeah, i need to figure out why there are two sets of tabs...
16:22 jcamins      magnuse: $('select.advsearch')
16:21 jcamins      C'est moi, c'est moi, I am forced to admit.
16:21 * wizzyrea   points at jcamins
16:21 jcamins      Yup.
16:21 wizzyrea     oh look who wrote that :P
16:21 wizzyrea     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Add_additional_searches_to_OPAC
16:20 jcamins      magnuse: I'd use jQuery.
16:20 jcamins      There's a bar "Normal View, MARC View, ISBD View" then there's a bar "Normal visning, MARC-visning, Utvidet MARC-visning, Kortvisning (ISBD)."
16:20 wahanui      jquery library is, like, found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
16:20 wizzyrea     jquery library?
16:20 wizzyrea     is there not one for that on the jquery library
16:20 magnuse      jcamins: whatcha thinking 'bout?
16:20 magnuse      so a library wants to add an index to the search fields dropdowns in the intranet search (catalogue/search.pl) - how would y'all do that? jquery? hack the template (that's what i have done so far)?  do a bug to make that whole list configurable?
16:19 jcamins      magnuse: some weirdness with the OPAC.
16:19 * jcamins    has no idea which language that is.
16:18 jcamins      Goodness.
16:18 magnuse      yay!
16:17 * wizzyrea   holds tight to this record set and never lets it go ever ever.
16:17 wizzyrea     perfect.
16:17 wizzyrea     YES. That is awesome.
16:17 wizzyrea     and lessig :P
16:17 magnuse      ah, not me who added all of that - no idea where the indian(?)-looking ones came from ;-)
16:17 * oleonard   has success with jqueryui buttons, jqueryui menus, but not jqueryui buttons+menus
16:16 wizzyrea     crazy characters and right to left languages
16:16 magnuse      lessig?
16:16 wizzyrea     ooo magnuse I approve of your test records.
16:15 jcamins      Ooooh.
16:15 jenkins_koha Starting build #599 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #597 23 h ago)
16:14 wizzyrea     I like it. :P
16:14 rhcl         jcamins: http://x2t.com/picows
16:14 jcamins      I don't know what champagne tastes like, so I can't comment on that.
16:14 * oleonard   isn't crazy about champagne either, but is probably always handed the cheap stuff
16:13 magnuse      for me it's the taste...
16:13 jcamins      No, the problem is actually the bubbles.
16:13 wizzyrea     !
16:13 * magnuse    neither
16:13 wizzyrea     who doesn't like alcoholic bubbly oj
16:12 wizzyrea     mimosas then
16:12 jcamins      Well, actually, I don't like champagne.
16:12 magnuse      yeah, let's not hold our breath
16:12 jcamins      But I will drink champagne to celebrate it only after it's *gone*.
16:11 jcamins      Getting rid of the whole mess would be great, too.
16:11 magnuse      but i must confess i have not actually been reading the messages on the BIBFRAME list...
16:11 magnuse      and i guess that is under way too
16:11 * magnuse    would rather inspire a movement to get rid of the whole mess
16:10 wizzyrea     NORMALRC is what I meant I think
16:10 oleonard     Needs more Rs.
16:10 jcamins      normalrc is also funny.
16:09 wizzyrea     which is amusingly hard to say
16:09 wizzyrea     NORMARLRC
16:09 wizzyrea     we could call it normalrc
16:09 jcamins      We should lead a movement to integrate NORMARC and MARC21.
16:08 jcamins      Seems to me that MARC21 could probably use those.
16:07 magnuse      (that's my nderstanding anyway)
16:07 magnuse      jcamins: what sets normarc apart is a very few fields related to music, and some more fine-grained code for audience somewhere in 007 or 008 or thereabouts - but who uses that anyway?!? and how come the rest of the world can do without it?!?
16:07 jcamins      And the moment they get free, they will freeze and mew in an adorable fashion while trying to get back to where they were before they escaped.
16:06 wizzyrea     yoink is one of my favorite words
16:06 reiveune     bye
16:06 jcamins      Kind of like kittens.
16:06 magnuse      liberate++
16:06 wizzyrea     they want to be freeeee
16:06 wizzyrea     that is what I'm doing
16:06 wizzyrea     liberate
16:05 jcamins      yoink, annex, hijack, liberate, swipe
16:05 * wizzyrea   hopes that made you laugh.
16:05 wahanui      appropriate is to acquire through some means or tocopythemtomakethemmyownohpleasedontbemad
16:05 chris_n      appropriate?
16:05 wahanui      okay, chris_n.
16:05 chris_n      appropriate is also tocopythemtomakethemmyownohpleasedontbemad
16:05 wizzyrea     that is what I meant!
16:05 wahanui      rumour has it appropriate is to acquire through some means
16:05 chris_n      appropriate?
16:04 oleonard     purloin, fetch, snatch, pinch
16:04 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5473 follow-up : removed warn & replace some tabs by 4 spaces <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f961638465cf1fc41b15a6c277e3c936ec02ab6e> / bug_5473: Update items when receiving shipments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=92ca5a13e57f6254a4f6b504fbd3f68d4709c6a3>
16:04 wizzyrea     copythemtomakethemmyownohpleasedontbemad
16:04 chris_n      appropriate is to acquire through some means
16:04 magnuse      i'm beginning to think proprieatry vendors are behind it, to keep out the competition
16:04 jcamins      chris_n: did you think wizzyrea was going to return them when she was done? ;)
16:04 wizzyrea     acquire, bogart
16:04 magnuse      well, if it were up to me...
16:03 chris_n      appropriate?
16:03 jcamins      magnuse: why didn't Norway just adopt MARC21 entirely?
16:03 wizzyrea     for my test system!
16:02 wizzyrea     so I could erm, appropriate them >.>
16:02 magnuse      and saying mostly makes me sad... #marcmustdie
16:02 wizzyrea     well what I wanted, was bibs/items that had items with branches that matched my test system
16:02 magnuse      normarc is mostly a subset of marc21
16:02 magnuse      jcamins: hehe
16:02 jcamins      What are you trying to test?
16:01 wizzyrea     hmm
16:01 jcamins      It *is* NORMARC.
16:01 jcamins      *MARC21
16:01 jcamins      That's very similar to NORMARC, just in Norwegian.
16:01 wizzyrea     normarc tho
16:01 magnuse      yay!
16:01 wizzyrea     I was headed there next!
16:01 jcamins      magnuse has a demo.
16:01 * wizzyrea   forgot
16:01 wizzyrea     hrmph.
16:01 wizzyrea     gmcharlt is on the way to dallas
16:00 wizzyrea     oh bother
15:57 wizzyrea     haha
15:57 * jcamins    had never heard it before, but it sounded like something that wizzyrea would use to mean "let me know."
15:57 wizzyrea     ping gmcharlt - is the user/pass on your demo still "demo/demo"
15:57 * magnuse    got it, for once
15:56 wizzyrea     surely that can't be a wizzy-ism
15:56 wizzyrea     O.O
15:56 * oleonard   wouldn't have gotten "lmk" either
15:55 magnuse      lol
15:55 * wizzyrea   stops now.
15:55 wizzyrea     internet speak
15:55 wizzyrea     ;)
15:54 wizzyrea     speeks
15:54 wizzyrea     sorry, internet
15:54 jcamins      let me know
15:54 wizzyrea     let me know
15:54 paul_p       wizzyrea, lmk ?
15:54 wizzyrea     actually I want to do some other things to it anyway
15:54 wizzyrea     paul_p: if you lmk what needs to go in the DB I'll update my test db that's available on bugzilla
15:53 vfernandes   yes it is paul_p... thanks for the help :)
15:52 jcamins      Is it safe to say that authids will always be positive numbers?
15:52 magnuse      (i think that is your server from the link you pasted earlier)
15:52 magnuse      vfernandes: this looks good: http://catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt/robots.txt
15:50 nengard      budget_expend isn't populated in the db ? so how do i get the amount spent against a budget in a mysql report?
15:49 vfernandes   paul_p is my robots.txt in the correct place?
15:49 jcamins      ignore wahanui?!?
15:48 vfernandes   ok :)
15:48 oleonard     vfernandes: wahanui is a bot, you can ignore him
15:48 jcamins      vfernandes: look in your koha-httpd.conf file if you're not sure.
15:48 wahanui      vfernandes: i don't know
15:48 vfernandes   wahanui: what?
15:46 wahanui      Hmm.  No matches for that, vfernandes.
15:46 vfernandes   my koha is installed in the directory /opt/koha/... i've putted the robots.txt in the folder /opt/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/
15:45 nengard      wait - it is but in aqorders not aqbasket ? okay
15:45 paul_p       koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/ iirc
15:45 paul_p       vfernandes, your document root ?
15:44 vfernandes   that's boring lol which is the correct locating to put the robots.txt?
15:44 paul_p       a test is failing, on my test DB it's not
15:44 nengard      can anyone tell me where the invoice number is stored when you receive an order in acq - it's not booksellerinvoicenumber
15:44 paul_p       i've sent a mail to chris
15:44 paul_p       don't worry for jenkins being unstable, I bet it's because of the test database
15:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , late order management
15:44 sekjal       kf: I think the instability is coming from "Bug 5347: Adds columns claims_count and claimed_date in aqorders"
15:42 magnuse      yeah, it will take some time for them to see the robots.txt and remove indexed pages from their index - not quite shure how or how fast that works
15:41 vfernandes   i've already add the robots.txt to my Koha... but the Google cache still has the link :/
15:39 magnuse      hiya jcamins
15:39 jcamins      Hello again, #koha.
15:29 * magnus_afk waves
15:29 * wizzyrea   waves
15:25 kf           unstable again
15:25 kf           oh no
15:24 magnus_afk   koha has a README about it: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=README.robots;h=6865d0ae26a6a5213976143600e2c334b187991d;hb=HEAD
15:24 vfernandes   ok... thanks kf and magnus
15:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6694 normal, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Anonymous sessions not kept when casAuthentication is on
15:23 jenkins_koha * nengard: Update CircAutoPrintQuickSlip description
15:23 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 6694: Problem with casAuthentication syspref
15:23 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: BZ6115: Acquisition reports : date filter & sorting don't work
15:23 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Koha version updated
15:23 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5347: Followup change class for message + Unit test
15:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , late order management
15:23 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5347: Set translatable the "no email" error
15:23 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5347: Follow up - Fix warnings, check/uncheck all and makes error message translatable
15:23 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5347: Followup Adds columns claims_count and claimed_date in aqorders
15:23 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5347: Adds columns claims_count and claimed_date in aqorders
15:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #598: UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/598/
15:22 magnus_afk   http://www.robotstxt.org/
15:22 kf           it's not a koha specific thing
15:22 kf           and can tell them to not index
15:22 kf           a robot.txt file is to be read by search engines
15:22 vfernandes   can you givve me more info kf?
15:21 kf           using a robots.txt file
15:21 kf           I think you can block it totally
15:17 vfernandes   can I block the google robot?
15:17 vfernandes   that's what Koha suppression does
15:16 magnus_afk   hm, looks like the suppression thing is only hiding records from search, then, and not hiding them completely from being viewed
15:15 vfernandes   the first link that appears to me redirects to the OPAC and to one record that is suppressed and doesn't appears in the OPAC searches
15:14 vfernandes   https://www.google.com/search?q=india+suplendor&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:pt-PT:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy-ab&hl=pt-PT&client=firefox-a&hs=aqb&rls=org.mozilla:pt-PT%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=india+esplendor+intemporal&pbx=1&oq=india+esplendor+intemporal&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=4712l8527l1l8734l11l11l0l0l0l0l567l3359l0.3.1.3.1.2l10l0
15:14 vfernandes   can you help with one thing? i have the suppression working fine in the Koha... records suppressed does not appears in the OPAC but when I do a Google search the record is appearing
15:13 vfernandes   hi guys
14:34 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Update CircAutoPrintQuickSlip description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef304424e0e9063ad4feeda2c4b83a05e09c7c01> / Bug 6694: Problem with casAuthentication syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ffbf4e88c6ed98ad697bb4a2b4d9d1456d2c84c> / BZ6115: Acquisition reports : date filter & sorting don't work <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=com
14:33 chris_n      but I'd guess that dbi returns empty fields as ''
14:32 chris_n      probably check for undef
14:32 kf           lol
14:32 kf           we should check for expirydate = NULL or ''
14:32 chris_n      englishism suspected in my last comment
14:31 kf           I tried differnet things, but it seemed not 'the right way to do it'
14:31 kf           I was not sure how to check the variable correctly
14:31 kf           only  aprt of it
14:31 * chris_n    thinks "I made a bug" might should be "I fixed a bug" ;-)
14:30 kf           chris_n: I made a bug - hope it explains. so far no other problems found in 3.6.3
14:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #598 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:30 magnus_afk   yeah, that's another part of it
14:29 sekjal       it's not clear why the browser language isn't being properly split and parsed...
14:29 magnus_afk   sekjal: nassssty bugses!
14:29 * oleonard   would be happy if someone took that assignment away from him
14:29 sekjal       magnus_afk:  not yet
14:29 magnus_afk   ?
14:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7445 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist"
14:28 magnus_afk   sekjal: any luck with bug 7445
14:28 huginn       chris_n: The operation succeeded.
14:28 chris_n      @later tell Barrc everything under blib can be safely ignored in your rsync; they are just a staging area for the install process
14:24 kf           paul_p: I got it :)
14:21 paul_p       oleonard, I wan't planning to have you joining the group. I was planning to have you managing the group :D :D
14:19 kf           me too :)
14:18 * oleonard   would happily join
14:17 paul_p       oleonard, I think i'll organize a working group during hackfest about design ;-) (there are 4 ppl at BibLibre that have said they would be interested by this topic...)
14:16 kf           nice
14:16 kf           oh
14:16 kf           oleonard++ :)
14:13 oleonard     jQuery UI button toolbar with default style and icons: http://screencast.com/t/nR3zkphwCN
13:54 oleonard     I heard of a non-Koha project once, but I forget what it was.
13:51 kf           non-koha projects? ts:)
13:43 jcamins_away kf: since oleonard is an expert, I figured I'd ask him even though the question is only tangentially related to Koha.
13:43 jcamins_away kf: for a non-Koha project.
13:42 kf           I thought that was the plan?
13:41 jcamins_away Hm. I think maybe we'll switch everything to jQueryUI.
13:39 kf           last edited     by Kris Borchers 1 week ago < not too long ago *hope*
13:37 jcamins_away I bet jQuery has a tabber, too.
13:33 oleonard     http://wiki.jqueryui.com/w/page/12137997/Menu
13:33 edveal-away  Thanks
13:32 kf           cardnumber + password for authentification at the sip station
13:32 kf           username is only used for the opac login afaik
13:32 wahanui      somebody said cardnumber was passed in with the call to patronimage.pl
13:32 kf           cardnumber
13:31 edveal-away  SIP question. Does the sip system use the card# or the user name?
13:29 kf           do you have the link to the wiki at hand?
13:28 * oleonard   should do more testing with what they have so far
13:27 oleonard     No. It seems from the planning wiki that work is being done, but I guess it is slow
13:26 kf           any news on the missing menu library?
13:25 * oleonard   hopes we'll make more use of autocomplete after jQueryUI is our standard
13:24 oleonard     Hi druthb
13:23 jcamins_away oleonard: That's what I figured, but I wanted to ask you.
13:23 druthb       o/.
13:21 jcamins_away Excellent. We'll use that.
13:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5481 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI JS libraries with Jquery UI
13:21 oleonard     Hence Bug 5481
13:20 oleonard     I have tinkered with the YUI version but never built one from scratch. In general though I find jQueryUI much easier to work with.
13:20 jcamins_away Hi kf.
13:19 kf           hi jcamins_away :)
13:18 jcamins_away As the resident Javascript expert, do you like the jQuery Autocomplete plugin for autocomplete or the YUI autocomplete?
13:17 jcamins_away I was just thinking of you.
13:17 jcamins_away Good morning, oleonard.
12:51 kf           wb paul_p
12:43 Barrc        anyway - thanks. Setting up an rysnc server for multiple koha sites and trying to get rid of excess weight!
12:42 Barrc        maybe copied during install....
12:42 Barrc        Looks like it is a replicate of /usr/share/koha/misc
12:42 Barrc        um, I only see translator under my MISC_DIR
12:35 Culiforge    this is from the readme.debian file
12:35 Culiforge    this is what I know of it... not misc_dir directly.. but things under this tree. * /usr/share/koha -- shared files (HTML templates, Perl code, etc)
12:26 Barrc        Anyone know it's purpose?
12:26 Barrc        /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/blib/MISC_DIR
11:24 huginn       Culiforge: The current temperature in Battle Creek, Michigan is -14.0�C (5:53 AM EST on January 20, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -20.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Falling).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 10 am this morning to 7 am EST Saturday...
11:24 Culiforge    @wunder 49037
11:23 huginn       Culiforge: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
11:23 Culiforge    @wunder
11:23 * magnuse    wanders off in search of lunch
11:20 magnuse      i think it must be roughly 4 years since i did my first install and there are still things i have barely looked at (like labels)
11:19 Culiforge    indeed
11:18 magnuse      ...and there are quite a lot of doodads :-)
11:18 Culiforge    <-- so exciting!!!\
11:18 magnuse      Culiforge++
11:18 magnuse      yay!
11:18 Culiforge    magnuse: btw.. thanks for advice the other day, I now have my koha up and seemingly working fine. currently scouring documentation to learn all the doodads
11:15 Culiforge    magnuse: one never knows...
11:15 magnuse      windchill--
11:15 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0�C (11:50 AM CET on January 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
11:15 magnuse      @wunder boo
11:14 * magnuse    wonders if ggl means anything interesting in those other contexts :-)
11:12 Culiforge    just wanted to clarify
11:10 Culiforge    that's what I was thinking.. thanks kf
11:10 kf           google I think :)
11:10 Culiforge    I apologize.. I have military, medical, computer and hospitality backgrounds and therefore I get acronyms confused at time.. what is ggl?
11:08 hdl          there is a script cleanup_database.pl
10:58 Culiforge    I don't understand... clean what up and how?
10:57 Culiforge    I was considering 'null' only for as long as I am local on my own system.. once live it would revert to default.
10:57 hdl          Culiforge: just a simple aspect : sessions table is shared by OPAC and intranet, and since ggl is crawling your OPAC, you will have TONS of sesssions. I think you will want to clean it up once in a while.
10:55 hdl          Culiforge: a) nope. b) yep. ... Also : No... And you should NOT consider this as an option.
10:36 Culiforge    while studying the documentation I see in administration\system prefs\admin pref\login options\timeout; 120000000 ms of inactivity before auto logout. it states that both staff client and opac must be the same (... at this time... ) does that mean a) there is another setting for the opac somewhere or b) that they are inherently linked and this setting controls them both? Also, is there a 'null' value accepted in this field for a 'no timeout
10:13 gaetan_B     hi AmitG :)
10:12 AmitG        heya gaetan_B, paul_p
09:45 kf           bye paul_p
09:44 * paul_p     head to see his banker, see you in 2 hours or something like that !
09:27 kf           back :)
08:49 wahanui      privet, julian_m_
08:49 julian_m_    hi
08:46 paul_p       good morning world
08:14 gaetan_B     :)
08:14 wahanui      hey, gaetan_B
08:14 gaetan_B     hello
08:07 magnuse      good morning #koha!
08:00 kf_mtg       hi alex_a
07:59 alex_a       hi kf_mtg
07:58 kf           hi #koha
07:58 kf           hi #kha
07:52 sophie_m     hi #koha
07:29 reiveune     hello
07:03 cait         hi amitg
07:03 AmitG        heya cait :D
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04:48 wahanui      i guess ^^ is always wizzyrea's concern, weird stuff could happen
04:48 ibeardslee   rangi: ^^?
04:48 ibeardslee   chrisdothall: Do you know if the Academy students managed to sort the search results for the andriod app?
03:36 AmitG        hyea bag
01:34 huginn       chris_n: rangi was last seen in #koha 2 days, 7 hours, 57 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <rangi> but chrisdothall and the academy students should have more stuff to show by the end of the day :)
01:34 chris_n      @seen rangi
01:34 huginn       chris_n: I suck
01:34 chris_n      @rangi
01:28 jcamins_away As far as I knew it was not.
01:27 jcamins_away Does anyone know anything about field 001 being required by Koha?
00:22 mtj          here now BobB  :
00:11 huginn       BobB: mtj was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 38 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <mtj> nice new logo brendan
00:11 BobB         @seen mtj