Time  Nick            Message
22:55 magnuse         g'night #koha!
22:54 maximep         anyway, gtg before the snowstorm gets crazier
22:53 maximep         oops, just closed my vm. Not working on Opera :/
22:47 _reason         issues and returns widgets up at http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/ - anyone have IE <= 8 to check if my embed method works?
22:44 magnuse         _Bart___: looks good from norway too :-)
22:43 wizzyrea        yvw
22:43 _Bart___        wizzyrea: thankyou :)
22:42 wizzyrea        there that's better
22:42 wizzyrea        http://screencast.com/t/uGM8HgAlEs
22:42 wizzyrea        no
22:42 wizzyrea        er
22:42 wizzyrea        http://www.real-user-monitoring.com/sopapipa-could-have-huge-impact-on-enterprise-it/
22:42 wizzyrea        seems to be working for me
22:41 _Bart___        hello could someone please check my server http://academy19.catalyst.net.nz/projects/koha/checkedoutbooks.html it was down yesterday and I can't tell if it's fine from here
22:25 wizzyrea        also of interest if we hide lost - why not hide withdrawn too?
22:21 wizzyrea        like wthdrawn: [1] or something
22:21 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5984 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , OPAC: Hide items using a systempreferces to determine what to hide
22:21 wizzyrea        bug 5984 - does this work with "withdrawn"
22:13 wizzyrea        did we ever figure out why item suppression sometimes works and sometimes doesn't?
22:00 schuster        With 3.6 - are you still able to retrieve item information?  I'm looking at the ipage imatch options...
21:59 schuster        I have a question about Z39.50 - when we connect say using MARCEdit to our database are we retrieving in XML or bib-1?
21:48 wahanui         git bz is so much fun :) or http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
21:48 wizzyrea        git bz?
21:46 sekjal          something in Net::Z3950::ZOOM
21:46 magnuse         sekjal: "$@ - The Perl syntax error message from the last eval() operator." so maybe a later eval() related to the tags resets it?
21:39 magnuse         ah, that would explain it
21:39 wizzyrea        ah cool ty
21:39 sekjal          it's just that somehow, normal search clears $@
21:38 sekjal          stemming is done for both tag search AND normal search
21:38 sekjal          magnuse: sorry, missed your last comment
21:38 sekjal          wizzyrea:  JesseM is also new to the committers list (from yesterday)
21:31 wizzyrea        sam and connor are the new devs right?
21:16 magnuse         bye cait
21:16 cait            bye all :)
21:14 oleonard        See y'all tomorrow
20:47 magnuse         but it would almost seem that stemming isn't done for regular searches, only when the tags are involved?
20:46 magnuse         yup
20:46 sekjal          that error gets put into $@, and displayed on the screen as an error
20:45 sekjal          because buildQuery is run
20:45 sekjal          if stemming is on, it gets called, even if you're doing a tag search
20:45 sekjal          magnuse:  yes, that's where
20:45 magnuse         sekjal: as far as i can tell, the error comes from Lingua::Stem::Snowball in C4::Search::_build_stemmed_operand
20:38 sekjal          I think maybe in ZOOM::Query
20:36 sekjal          the error is coming from $@, not from $error; if it was $error, I'd understand, since every other, non-tag case overwrites the $error from buildQuery
20:36 magnuse         yeah. that's the question!
20:35 magnuse         just added my latest findings on the bug
20:35 sekjal          why is the error appearing only for tags?
20:35 sekjal          magnuse:  well, so are we
20:35 magnuse         sekjal: wonderful - cause i'm stumped
20:34 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7445 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist"
20:34 sekjal          magnuse:  ago43 and I are working on bug 7445, FYI
20:28 magnuse         juggler-boy-123++
20:28 cait            juggler-boy-123++
20:28 cait            :)
20:28 wizzyrea        juggler-boy-123++
20:28 wizzyrea        squee!
20:28 juggler-boy-123 Got my three patches pushed :D
20:27 jenkins_koha    chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.03.000 17 Jan 2012 19:39:50 Z
20:27 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.6.x build #29: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/29/
20:24 wizzyrea        oleonard: the rounded corners got in ;)
20:20 huginn          ibeardslee: The current temperature in Delacombe, Ballarat, Victoria is 20.7�C (7:00 AM EST on January 18, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady).
20:20 ibeardslee      @wunder ballarat
20:19 oleonard        Microsoft should really be given credit for being able to continually crank out truly crappy browsers when it seems to easy for so many other companies to produce decent ones.
20:18 oleonard        koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org
20:18 * wizzyrea      wants to be notified of new bugs
20:18 wizzyrea        bugs@lists.koha-community.org?
20:18 oleonard        Yeah
20:18 wizzyrea        man seriously what list is that?
20:18 wizzyrea        oh did you just get notice of the bug with the lists in IE
20:17 magnuse         ie8--
20:16 oleonard        Man the OPAC looks like crap in IE8.
20:16 huginn          collum: The current temperature in Covington, Kentucky is 12.0�C (2:52 PM EST on January 17, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising).
20:16 collum          @wunder cvg
20:15 chrisdothall    :)*
20:15 chrisdothall    magnuse: I was just testing )
20:15 huginn          samsanders: The current temperature in Christchurch, New Zealand is 16.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on January 18, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
20:15 samsanders      @wunder christchurch, nz
20:15 magnuse         chrisdothall: try wellington, nz
20:14 huginn          chrisdothall: Error: No such location could be found.
20:14 wizzyrea        you don't want my weather.
20:14 chrisdothall    @wunder wellington
20:14 oleonard        That wind is probably blowing in your weather wizzyrea
20:14 wizzyrea        downright balmy
20:14 wizzyrea        12!
20:14 wizzyrea        !
20:14 huginn          oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 12.0�C (3:10 PM EST on January 17, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.52 in 999.5 hPa (Steady).  Wind Advisory in effect until 9 PM EST this evening... 
20:14 oleonard        @wunder 45701
20:14 wizzyrea        just kiddin, you can have it
20:13 cait            heh
20:13 wizzyrea        then I win :) -4 windchill
20:13 cait            but cold
20:13 cait            currently not
20:13 wizzyrea        in konstanz?
20:13 wizzyrea        hmm any wind?
20:13 wizzyrea        but yes, you do win
20:13 cait            i win :(
20:13 wizzyrea        wtf are the odds of that.
20:12 wizzyrea        it's warmer in norway!
20:12 huginn          wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -1.2�C (2:11 PM CST on January 17, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Rising).
20:12 wizzyrea        @wunder 66047
20:12 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -2.0�C (9:00 PM CET on January 17, 2012). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.53 in 1034 hPa (Rising).
20:12 cait            @wunder Konstanz
20:12 wahanui         magnuse: no idea
20:12 magnuse         depends on where here is, wahanui...
20:12 wahanui         summer is, like, here now
20:12 magnuse         ooh, summer...
20:12 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on January 18, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
20:12 magnuse         @wunder wellington, nz
20:11 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0�C (8:50 PM CET on January 17, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
20:11 magnuse         @wunder boo
20:11 magnuse         cool
20:11 jorgia          magnuse: we are working on our projects all week :)
20:10 magnuse         wassup at the academy?
20:10 magnuse         yay! ;-)
20:09 _reason         hey magnuse :)
20:09 _Bart___        magnuse: hello :)
20:09 juggler-boy-123 http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/HTML_Report/
20:08 cait            edveal++ :)
20:08 cait            cool
20:07 magnuse         kia ora _Bart___
20:07 edveal          Thanks for the help.
20:07 edveal          And it worked.
20:07 edveal          Found it... I should be this:  $("#select_library option[value='branch:E']").hide();
20:06 cait            welcome back academy students :)
20:02 Kate            Hey
20:01 mbalmer         zzz time here now...
20:01 magnuse         kia ora Kate samsanders _reason
20:01 mbalmer         sekjal, that is quite impressive already
20:01 sekjal          brb; meeting
20:01 sekjal          but my testing was limited to only a few runs
20:01 sekjal          mbalmer: I got about 30% improvement in opac search time with ModPerl::PerlRun
20:00 * wizzyrea      was not paying close enough attention
20:00 wizzyrea        it's the ID
20:00 wizzyrea        oh right yes, it's not the name
20:00 edveal          cait I will try that
20:00 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7172 major, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Data Persistency
20:00 magnuse         bug 7172
20:00 mbalmer         and, how much faster is it?
20:00 cait            in the selector
19:59 sekjal          I'm running it on a test server at the moment
19:59 cait            edveal: for ids wirte #id
19:59 sekjal          ModPerl::PerlRun is still an improvement, but not as great.  no code edits required
19:59 mbalmer         so someone has to do it(tm) ;)
19:59 sekjal          but requires lots of recoding
19:59 sekjal          mbalmer: ModPerl::Registry is faster
19:59 cait            hi jorgia :)
19:58 jorgia          hi :)
19:58 mbalmer         sekjal, I don't know the difference, but is it a serious speed impact or so?
19:58 wizzyrea        hi jorgia :)
19:58 sekjal          mbalmer:  you can run under ModPerl::PerlRun, but not ModPerl::Registry
19:56 rhcl            hi ho, hi ho, it's off to Evergreen we go....later dudes
19:56 wizzyrea        $("select[name='select_library'] option etc
19:56 edveal          I am using it... and you are right that is not it. I think I might want id="select_library"
19:56 mbalmer         koha could profit from runnin as mod_perl stuff.  wht are the reasons again that it does not?
19:54 jcamins         Or just use Chrome.
19:53 cait            it's really helpful looking at the dom and finding the right elements :)
19:53 cait            it's a firefox plugin
19:53 cait            do you have firebug?
19:53 cait            I think that's for hiding search options
19:53 edveal          No I am not sure I pulled it from a listing in the jQuery library that is supposed to add a search. I will look more.
19:52 jcamins         That seems... not right.
19:51 jcamins         edveal: are you sure that the name is idx?
19:51 edveal          Ok, I am trying to hide a library in the OPAC search dropdown. Here is what I have tried and it is not working anyone able to help out?    $("select[name='idx'] option[value='branch:E']").hide();
19:50 magnuse         cait++
19:48 cait            some  where already marked resolved
19:48 cait            all bugs from release notes done
19:47 cait            ok
19:47 chris_n         automation == autonightmare
19:46 sekjal          cait++
19:45 cait            hm
19:45 chris_n         there's one patch lacking from that series which I need to get
19:45 jenkins_koha    Starting build #29 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #26 25 j ago)
19:44 * chris_n       hopes
19:44 chris_n         fixed now
19:44 chris_n         exactly
19:44 cait            perhaps becaue it's only 3 numbers?
19:43 cait            chris_n: hm it seems the release notes ar enot complete? 929 from yesterday is missing
19:34 wizzyrea        oops sorry rangi
19:32 cait            perhaps because everyone is starting with new energy into the new year... and in result things go crazy
19:32 cait            not sure why
19:32 cait            work is crazy in january
19:32 cait            I know the problem
19:31 * chris_n       really needs more to do atm
19:31 chris_n         cait: my script could probably be mod'd to change the bug status upon release note generation
19:31 nengard         characters that were in that search
19:31 nengard         maybe it was the search i ran
19:31 cait            oleonard: it works for me too - no idea
19:30 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6990 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , TransformKohaToMarc enhancement
19:30 oleonard        Why would Bug 6990 cause nengard problems but not me?
19:30 cait            not hard to do with such nice release notes
19:30 chris_n         cait++
19:24 slef            I'm surprisingly cross about all these complete SOPA blackouts
19:23 wahanui         i heard jquery was client side, so it doesn't have anything to do with the templating system
19:23 cait            hm jquery?
19:22 edveal          Anybody know a good way to hide libraries from the OPAC library searching drop-down menu?
19:20 chris_n         purdy,  maybe?
19:20 wizzyrea        those are purty
19:20 chris_n         we'll see how far I get...
19:20 wizzyrea        yay for rounded corners
19:20 chris_n         I'm going to try to get current with master before zulu (0000 EST) my time
19:19 cait            I will start going through the release notes
19:19 cait            yep you told me
19:19 chris_n         I'm planning to freeze the branch tonight
19:19 cait            we have that turning up as holdings note: ;;;;;;;.
19:18 huginn          nengard: The operation succeeded.
19:18 nengard         @later tell paul_p please see comment on bug 6990
19:18 chris_n         cait: maybe if I have time
19:18 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4300 normal, P3, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Display 866z summary holdings public note in OPAC
19:18 cait            bug 4300
19:18 cait            I have one... 4300
19:18 cait            chris_n: will you oull more?
19:18 nengard         paul_p please see comment on bug 6990
19:18 chris_n         cait: will be in the next hour or so
19:18 nengard         hopefully that gets fixed soon
19:18 nengard         thanks jcamins
19:18 cait            thank you )
19:18 cait            oh
19:18 cait            the release notes on git are up to date, right?
19:18 * chris_n       hands cait raspberry chocolate coffee
19:18 jcamins         nengard: no, you'll want to run `git checkout master` before running `git pull`
19:18 cait            i think that's the perfect task for tonight
19:17 cait            cool
19:17 chris_n         that would be fantastic
19:17 cait            I could check the release notes and do it if that's ok for you
19:17 chris_n         feel free to do it if you like
19:17 cait            that's why i offered to do it :)
19:17 cait            ah
19:17 nengard         jcamins will i be able to do a pull next time as normal?
19:17 * chris_n       has nearly zero time available atm :-(
19:17 chris_n         cait: setting 'pushed to stable' will have to wait for me for now
19:16 nengard         it wasn't closed
19:16 nengard         jcamins done
19:16 cait            it's great
19:16 cait            :)
19:16 cait            yes
19:16 collum          jcamins: I'll check my installation tonight.
19:16 chris_n         cait: did you find everything you wanted in 3.6.x?
19:15 jcamins         nengard: reopen bug 6990 and put on a comment explaining the problem you encountered.
19:14 nengard         jcamins that worked
19:14 fabio_t         I have to go... see you!
19:13 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6990 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , TransformKohaToMarc enhancement
19:13 pastebot        "jcamins" at 66.108.135.39 pasted "nengard: reverting the commits for bug 6990" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/212
19:10 nengard         jcamins can you tell me what to type to revert that one?
19:03 cait            hm search working for me
19:02 jcamins         Try reverting that patch and see if it fixes it.
19:02 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6990 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , TransformKohaToMarc enhancement
19:02 jcamins         I'm betting the problem is related to bug 6990.
19:01 jcamins         Okay.
19:01 nengard         i was updating a version of master from last week
19:01 jcamins         nengard: I meant, before that.
18:55 cait            give me a sec
18:55 cait            I can git pull and check
18:54 nengard         hmmm
18:54 collum          I thought it was me.
18:54 collum          3 day old installation
18:54 collum          nengard: I was trying to load marc records into the reservoir last night, and I was getting a similar, error.
18:54 nengard         jcamins i did a git pull like an hour ago
18:54 cait            safe travels
18:53 mib_rangi       ok, im bored of it logging me in and out constantly, it keeps reloading the browser, dumb thing, i give up, will be back from somewhere that has internet without stupid port blocks
18:50 jcamins         When did you last update?
18:50 jcamins         That's not good.
18:50 nengard         rebuilding didn't work
18:49 nengard         in sub TransformKohaToMarc
18:49 nengard         $record->insert_fields_ordered( MARC::Field->new(
18:48 nengard         checking htat line
18:48 nengard         rebuilding zebra ? just in case
18:48 jcamins         What's that line of code on your install?
18:47 nengard         or what to look at?
18:47 nengard         any ideas on how i might fix this little snag?
18:47 nengard         uh oh
18:47 oleonard-away   Searching works for me nengard
18:42 jcamins         I can't test now, though.
18:42 nengard         anyone else having that issue?
18:41 jcamins         Sounds like something that shouldn't have been was pushed.
18:38 nengard         I did a pull on my test install and now when i try to search I get this "Software error: Tag "" is not a valid tag. at /home/nengard/kohaclone/C4/Biblio.pm line 1849"  is this a bug? or something with my setup?
18:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7435 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , An inactive fund is selected a default in neworderempty.pl
18:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7276 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , member entry Performance improvement
18:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6885 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Superlibrarian users can't delete items from another library when IndependantBranches
18:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7266 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , overdue.pl : filter on flags "debarred" "suspended" and "gonenoaddress" not working
18:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7097 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , HidePatronName not hiding in all places
18:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7388 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , rounded corners for side menus in staff client
18:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7399 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, Pushed to Master , Holds Queue should show reserve notes
18:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7332 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Translated title (MARC21 field 242) doesn't display
18:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6787 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , NORMARC needs a Fast Add framework
18:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7277 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gcollum, Pushed to Master , keyword mapping needs spaces in the OPAC
18:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4300 normal, P3, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Display 866z summary holdings public note in OPAC
18:23 jenkins_koha    * adrien.saurat: Bug 7435: corrects Fund selectbox in addneworder
18:23 jenkins_koha    * Chris Cormack: Bug 7276 : Follow up, adding a sub to clear the cache
18:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7006 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , highlight patron changes in email
18:23 jenkins_koha    * henridamien.laurent: Bug 7276 : member entry Performance improvement
18:23 jenkins_koha    * f.demians: Bug 6885 Follow up patch, invert tested condition
18:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7247 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , rebuild_zebra.pl -v should show all Zebra log output
18:23 jenkins_koha    * adrien.saurat: Bug 7266: flags debarred, suspended, gonenoaddress in overdue
18:23 jenkins_koha    * ian.walls: Bug 7097: HidePatronName not hiding on issue history
18:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6466 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , hung socket read causes SIP tests to fail
18:23 jenkins_koha    * wizzyrea: Bug 7388 [SIGNED-OFF] [enh] - round the corners on the side menus in the staff client
18:23 jenkins_koha    * ian.walls: Bug 7399: Holds Queue should show reserve notes
18:23 jenkins_koha    * jcamins: Bug 7332: Translated title (MARC21 242) not shown
18:23 jenkins_koha    * magnus: Bug 6787 - Fast Add framework for NORMARC
18:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7357 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Subscriptions titles are replaced by "---" when duplicated
18:23 jenkins_koha    * gcollum: Bug 7277: Fixes display of subtitles in opac.
18:23 jenkins_koha    * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 4300: Fix display of textual holdings (866)
18:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5533 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , marking item lost diff in two places
18:23 jenkins_koha    * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7006, highlight patron changes in email
18:23 jenkins_koha    * dpavlin: Bug 7247 - rebuild_zebra.pl -v should show all Zebra log output
18:23 jenkins_koha    * mason: Bug 6466 - hung socket read causes SIP tests to fail
18:23 jenkins_koha    * adrien.saurat: Bug 7357: display serial title instead of '---'
18:23 jenkins_koha    * ian.walls: Bug 5533 followup: reinstate Lost status editing
18:23 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #594: SUCCESS in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/594/
18:10 * cait          waves at oleonard-away
18:05 cait            is there an unreal cait?
18:03 libsysguy       (the real cait that is)
18:03 libsysguy       hi cait
18:02 cait            hi #koha
17:49 fabio_t         jcamins++
17:49 fabio_t         thanks jcamins
17:48 jcamins         fabio_t: yes, as long as you don't use IE as the browser for the staff client.
17:47 fabio_t         hi... I have a question. I guess that Koha fully works for staff and public if virtualized with Ubuntu on a Windows machine and accessed via browser from Windows. am I right?
17:38 magnuse         go students go!
17:37 wizzyrea        the stuff they did yesterday was pretty awesome
17:37 rangi           but chrisdothall and the academy students should have more stuff to show by the end of the day :)
17:32 wahanui         bag was last seen on #koha 5 days, 13 hours, 1 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying: hey yo AmitG  [Thu Jan 12 04:30:45 2012]
17:32 libsysguy       seen bag
17:32 libsysguy       i guess the bot doesn't like the word yo
17:32 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7435: corrects Fund selectbox in addneworder <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=04400d992619741eb65de5f4976ccb0cdf7ae1a0>
17:32 libsysguy       yo seen bag
17:32 rangi           thanks paul_p, off to talk to librarians today in auckland
17:30 jenkins_koha    Starting build #594 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:30 paul_p          rangi, have a good morning & day !
17:29 mbalmer         cu
17:29 paul_p          OK, time to leave.
17:29 paul_p          (how many ppl could we have in BibLibre office... I feel we will know that after the hackfest :D )
17:29 huginn          rangi: The operation succeeded.
17:29 rangi           @later tell chris_n the follow up patch for 929 needs to be cherry-picked to stop the tests complaining
17:29 mbalmer         wow.
17:29 paul_p          so already 24 !
17:29 paul_p          well, 9 from outside BibLibre in fact.
17:28 paul_p          15 from BibLibre + 7 from outside
17:28 mbalmer         eek...
17:28 paul_p          mbalmer, if you had a gdoc account you would know ;-)
17:28 paul_p          (and I think we should progressively move to a MVC model. joubu at BibLibre is working on a POC about that atm)
17:28 mbalmer         paul_p, good, that makes sense.  btw. how many folks in Marseille already?
17:27 paul_p          mbalmer, right
17:27 jcamins         paul_p++
17:27 jcamins         :)
17:27 mbalmer         paul_p, so you mean handing down stuff to a perl module, which then contains the SQL needed?  some sort of layering, right?
17:27 paul_p          it's time to leave for me now. I've pushed a lot of patches today...33 bugs signed off & needing QA, most of them being complex
17:27 jcamins         But link_bibs_to_authorities.pl is something that you run because you did something wrong with your system, and now you want to fix it by doing something you probably shouldn't be doing.
17:26 jcamins         paul_p: it makes sense for central functionality.
17:26 paul_p          mbalmer, everything should be in a module. And in the Perl module related to Koha module (acq/cat/circ/...). It's much easier for maintainance !
17:25 paul_p          (and, point 1 is clear = if you provide an ENH/bugfix to a patch that fails guidelines, QA won't reject you because of that)
17:25 mbalmer         why no SQL in .pl files?
17:24 paul_p          (maybe I should update the guidelines...)
17:24 * jcamins       hasn't actually been looking at patches, just comments.
17:24 jcamins         Okay.
17:24 paul_p          2- i'm not sure it should apply to command-line scripts
17:24 paul_p          1- it's not new, what is new is that it's written
17:24 jcamins         The SQL that script runs is very specific to the command-line script.
17:23 jcamins         paul_p: given the new policy on not having SQL in .pl files, how should link_bibs_to_authorities.pl be handled?
17:22 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7276' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d704808684977868927bcc0c0ae1ac1af032f0e1> / Bug 7276 : Follow up, adding a sub to clear the cache <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=94516e7f2a4c8ff1026e0a4a4ef9cefb9fe0c23d> / Bug 7276 : member entry Performance improvement <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm
17:16 kf              bbiab
17:14 kf              I think it's really in the meeting minutes, but not sure which date
17:13 kf              but I have to leave :(
17:13 kf              meeting minutes
17:13 kf              not sure
17:13 paul_p          why isn't the patch in now ?
17:12 paul_p          so where's the problem ?
17:12 kf              I think we discussed it would be ok with proper documentationa nd warning
17:12 paul_p          maybe I should do it now, as you remind me...
17:12 paul_p          (iirc, I had to send a mail to koha@ to ask if ppl would be troubled, but... I forget...)
17:12 kf              in 3.6.2
17:12 kf              I thought I had seen the notes field for debarred in our test installation - but it isn't there
17:11 kf              paul_p: I take it back - confused my installations
17:11 paul_p          kf, I don't think so (but I may be wrong)
17:11 kf              paul_p: isn't fine in days in 3.6 now?
17:10 libsysguy       did I miss anyting groundbreaking?
17:10 trea            greetings elliot
17:10 kf              hi libsysguy:)
17:10 libsysguy       long time no see everybody :)
17:09 wizzyrea        \o
17:09 libsysguy       o/
17:04 oleonard        Either should work. One hides via CSS and the other removes it from the markup
17:02 edveal          Thanks
17:02 edveal          That did it... It was the .remove instead of .hide that I needed.
17:00 oleonard        $("div.suggestion").remove();
17:00 edveal          Yes
17:00 oleonard        Ah. so really you need to hide the box no matter what
16:59 edveal          They have a custom message there in the OPACNoResultsFound preference.
16:58 edveal          OPACNoResultsFound
16:58 oleonard        What preference are you referring to edveal ?
16:58 edveal          It already doesn't show if the user is NOT logged in.
16:57 edveal          I was thinking if I can hid it all the time that would be fine.
16:57 wizzyrea        difficult to detect logged in vs. logged out using jquery (or at least, given the 30 seconds I've spent thinking about it)
16:56 wizzyrea        yea, that seems sticky
16:56 oleonard        Hmm... but not sure about the logged-in vs. not issue, not familiar with that.
16:56 edveal          LOL!
16:56 oleonard        $("div.suggestion").html("Go fly a kite");
16:55 edveal          They don't want the box to show, they only want their custom text to show.
16:55 edveal          We have added custom text to the preference. When the user is NOT logged in all that shows is the custom text. However, when a user IS logged in they see both the custom and the box.
16:54 wizzyrea        or rather, what is the original request
16:54 wahanui         well, the first question is "What are you trying to do?"
16:54 wizzyrea        the first question?
16:53 edveal          Cant get the box to not show when a user is logged in.
16:52 edveal          Here is what I have so far but it is not working...  $("#userresults" .suggestion).hide();
16:52 wizzyrea        editing the preference doesn't do what you want?
16:51 edveal          Could someone give me a hand writing some jQuery to remove the grey box that appears when no results are found in the opac?
16:49 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7332 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Translated title (MARC21 field 242) doesn't display
16:49 jcamins         paul_p: now you've made me happy, with bug 7332. :)
16:49 jcamins         paul_p++
16:49 jcamins         Woohoo!
16:48 * paul_p        dealing with small patches signed OFF this afternoon...
16:46 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4300 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Display 866z summary holdings public note in OPAC
16:46 jcamins         Bug 4300.
16:45 paul_p          jcamins, why ? (which patch ?)
16:45 jcamins         paul_p: you have made kf very happy, I think. :)
16:43 oleonard        EFF++
16:42 rhcl            actually the EEF has a "good-enough" article for me to use.
16:38 rhcl            anybody have a good reference to an online source that succinctly states the case against SOPA?
16:29 gaetan_B        bye
16:05 reiveune        bye
16:01 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7407 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , HidePatronName not working anymore
16:01 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, connor.dewar, Failed QA , Unit tests required for all C4 modules
16:01 jenkins_koha    * ian.walls: Bug 7407: HidePatronName not working on 'on hold for' messages
16:01 jenkins_koha    * sam-sanders: bug 5327 add tests for C4/BackgroundJob.pm
16:01 jenkins_koha    * connor.dewar: Bug 5327 Added unit tests for C4/Reports.pm
16:01 jenkins_koha    * connor.dewar: Bug 5327 Added unit tests for C4/ClassSortRoutine/Dewey.pm
16:01 jenkins_koha    * connor.dewar: Bug 5327 added unit tests for C4/ClassSortRoutine/Generic
16:01 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #593: SUCCESS in 52 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/593/
15:49 jcamins         oleonard: yeah, it was.
15:49 oleonard        Sounds like an interesting time for film though
15:48 oleonard        Oh *that* NEP.
15:48 jcamins         oleonard: Lenin's strategic retreat toward capitalism after the disaster of War Communism.
15:47 jcamins         New Economic Project.
15:47 * oleonard      doesn't know what NEP stands for
15:47 jcamins         Huh.
15:47 jcamins         oleonard: you've never considered the number of guns in film publicity stills in the NEP-era film industry?
15:47 jcamins         oleonard: yes, of course.
15:45 * mbalmer       lives in a country where owning a gun or assault rifle is the norm ;P
15:44 oleonard        Is this a cataloging-related comment jcamins?
15:43 jcamins         It doesn't matter what the film is about, the publicity stills involve people pointing guns.
15:43 jcamins         What is it with the NEP film industry and guns?
15:40 * mbalmer       lives in a country where downloading music and films is perfectly legal
15:40 mbalmer         with more and more stupid laws...
15:40 mbalmer         USA is in a spiral downwards
15:40 mbalmer         no, the laws are.
15:39 oleonard        mbalmer: Are you saying SOPA and PIPA protests are only logical for USA?
15:37 * mbalmer       has refused to visit the US for the last ten years because of their border control unlaws
15:36 mbalmer         SOPA and PIPA are only logical for USofA.  Don't forget to revert your stupid border control laws as well...
15:36 jcamins         [off] Closing public libraries in the US in protest of SOPA is a terrible idea. Let's just electroute all the proles while we're at it, so there's no one around to disagree.
15:35 * wizzyrea      goes out on an argumentative limb, will probably regret it.
15:35 wizzyrea        ok not sure exactly how closing the library == freedom from internet censorship and other varying restrictions - many libraries already employ many of the same tools for many of the same reasons. That's like, turning on a broken lightbulb in a dark room.
15:34 kf              I am sure you have a better superpower
15:33 kf              :)
15:33 wizzyrea        fair enough
15:33 wizzyrea        lol
15:32 wahanui         i guess kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
15:32 kf              kf?
15:32 kf              wizzyrea: sorry but that is mine
15:32 wizzyrea        my superpower is making bots forget things
15:32 * oleonard      is instead trying to decide what kind of action hero "Nick Wizzyrea" should be
15:32 * wizzyrea      gives up and sends mail.
15:32 mbalmer         but it would be more effective to close all public libraries for a day.
15:32 fabio_t         hi
15:31 mbalmer         no objections from switzerland, wizzyrea
15:31 * oleonard      is indecisive.
15:31 wizzyrea        hi
15:31 kf              hi wizzyrea
15:31 kf              quite silent here today
15:30 wizzyrea        now that the americans have been here for a while - sopa/pipa blackout on k-c.org?
15:30 wizzyrea        ok
15:30 * wizzyrea      waves
15:30 * wizzyrea      sighs
15:30 Guest24039      nick wizzyrea
15:08 jenkins_koha    Starting build #593 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:08 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6990 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , TransformKohaToMarc enhancement
15:08 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7364 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, Passed QA , Fast-Add framework doesn't always get the branch for item creation
15:08 jenkins_koha    * paul.poulain: Bug 6990 follow up PODDOC & unit test updating
15:08 jenkins_koha    * f.demians: TransformKohaToMarc enhancement
15:08 jenkins_koha    * ruth: Bug 7364: Possible to get to FA item add without current branch being defined.
15:08 jenkins_koha    * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 7364: Possible to get to FA item add without current branch being defined."
15:08 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #592: SUCCESS in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/592/
15:05 fabio_t         http://archive.ifla.org/VI/3/p1996-1/uni1.htm#100
15:04 fabio_t         Koha kind of reset input data (which is a .iso file, exported data from CDS/ISIS)
15:03 fabio_t         I have an issue with UNIMARC 100$a field
15:02 fabio_t         hope you all spent some nice holidays :)
15:00 fabio_t         what's up #koha!?
14:42 kf              yay :)
14:42 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7407: HidePatronName not working on 'on hold for' messages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b08ccda99d23cca5ee9e01bd351cb3605e9201af> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5327' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a642b1c72aa25743796e6e032c8aab1a2a905e14> / bug 5327 add tests for C4/BackgroundJob.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=
14:38 sekjal          wehoo!  3 new Koha committers in the last 2 days!
14:26 oleonard        Adapted from one of these: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
14:26 edveal-away     Thanks oleonard
14:25 oleonard        $("a:contains('Most-Circulated')").parent().remove();
14:25 edveal-away     Right I just don't remember exactly what it was and thought someone here might know off the top of their head. I will go check it out and find it in the code if need be.
14:24 oleonard        edveal-away: You'd have to use jQuery
14:24 edveal-away     oleonard - The library I am working with uses a custom report and wants the default to be hidden so staff does not use it.
14:23 oleonard        edveal-away: Oh, sorry, I didn't read carefully
14:23 edveal-away     Oleonard - That will hid it in the Staff client?
14:23 paul_p          will "failed QA" this one...
14:22 paul_p          OK, so it's a repeated mistake ;-)
14:22 paul_p          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=7189&action=edit
14:22 oleonard        It is a mistake paul_p
14:22 paul_p          I would have written it "Arguments"
14:22 oleonard        edveal-away: OpacTopissue  system pref
14:22 paul_p          is "Arguements" english or is it a mistake ?
14:22 paul_p          hello again everybody.
14:20 edveal-away     I know I have asked this before but I can't remember the answer... Can someone tell me how to hid the "Most Circulated Items" report in the staff client?
14:15 jenkins_koha    Starting build #592 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:11 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6990' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bfad0f6f9b23ed8b8882231dd9cc780658575c0> / Bug 6990 follow up PODDOC & unit test updating <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6456afea959111b3e0cade89e14251ea8abd5f74> / TransformKohaToMarc enhancement <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=02d392a502571e
13:41 jenkins_koha    chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.03.000 17 Jan 2012 12:46:33 Z
13:41 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.6.x build #28: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/28/
13:05 jcamins         vfernandes: record.abs has nothing to do with accents. You should look into ICU chains.
13:05 paul_p          jcamins, not sure yet, but maybe the cowboy coming from US will do :D
13:04 mbalmer         If you code in Perl, you can as well ride a horse...
13:04 jcamins_away    paul_p: do you have many people coming by horse? :)
12:59 jenkins_koha    Starting build #28 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #26 25 j ago)
12:52 paul_p          yeah ! ppl from switzerland, croatia & probably italia added to Hackfest in Europe attendees, just in a few hours ;-)
12:30 vfernandes      there is any way in the record.abs to remove the accents?
12:29 vfernandes      so the "í" only is a problem in the subfield 995^u
12:29 vfernandes      so the ""
12:29 vfernandes      if i search for "disponível" "disponivel" the results are the same despite the accent
12:28 vfernandes      i'm trully conviced that there is a problem in the record.abs
12:23 vfernandes      mtj it didn't work... maybe there is some problem in the record.abs
12:18 paul_p          my wifi is silly today...
12:18 paul_p          hi kf.
12:17 kf              hi paul_p
12:05 mtj             ok, i'm off to bed... zzZ
12:05 vfernandes      thanks mtj
12:05 vfernandes      magnuse that's strange but that is something that not worries me... :)
12:05 mtj             vfernandes: opac  looking good!
12:01 magnuse         has isbn, has placeholder image: http://constancia.koha.keep.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1048
12:01 magnuse         has isbn, no placeholder image: http://constancia.koha.keep.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=975
12:00 magnuse         but some of them have an isbn and no "no cover image available"
12:00 vfernandes      well, I think that is the problem :)
11:59 vfernandes      because there is a ISBN associated to the record but there isn't google jacket for that ISBN
11:58 magnuse         that's one thing i noticed recently: why do only some results show the "no cover image available" image? e.g.: http://constancia.koha.keep.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=portugal (not specific to this installation, i have seen others)
11:58 vfernandes      thanks :)
11:56 magnuse         vfernandes: looking good!
11:56 mtj             the biblibre team have good understanding of this, too
11:55 mtj             vfernandes: check out the  fr/sort-string-utf.chr  file for more zebra tweaking info
11:55 vfernandes      if you interested you can check the two OPAC design that i've worked: http://catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt http://constancia.koha.keep.pt
11:54 mtj             as is Koha in new zealand too :)
11:53 magnuse         yay!
11:51 vfernandes      Koha in Portugal is strongly growing :P
11:50 mtj             no probs ;)
11:50 vfernandes      thanks mtj and magnuse for the help :)
11:49 mtj             cool, uncomment then re-index :)
11:49 vfernandes      i'm using en
11:48 mtj             its defined correctly in 'fr', but commented-out in 'en'
11:47 mtj             if you are running UNIMARC u might be pathed to fr/sort-string-utf.chr , not en/sort-string-utf.chr ?
11:47 vfernandes      i'm already check that... let me uncomment the line and full reindex... then i let you know if it works :)
11:46 mtj             yep, thats the one :) make sure zebra is using that file too
11:45 vfernandes      this is commented on the file: #map í          i.... maybe if uncomment thi line it works
11:45 mtj             pass :) means those chars are considered equiv. to a ' ' space?
11:42 vfernandes      space {\001-\040}!"#$%&'\()*+,-./:;<=>?@\[\\]^_`\{|}~ what it does?
11:40 vfernandes      maybe in the sort_string_en they are ignored
11:40 mtj             yeah weird , perhaps those accents are defined as ignored already?
11:39 vfernandes      lol
11:39 vfernandes      or maybe the results aren't the correct and i didn't even noticed
11:39 vfernandes      which is strange
11:38 vfernandes      hummm ok... but with the other searches the accents are ignored
11:38 mtj             vfernandes:  then a zebra full index :)
11:37 mtj             hdl > jcamins: in etc/zebradb/default.idx and zebra-biblios.cfg and zebra-authorities.cfg
11:37 mtj             paul_p> hdl, can you help jcamins, I cant' remember where it must be changed...
11:36 mtj             http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-01-03
11:36 magnuse         if the partial string gives results a reindex will probably not help - listen to mtj instead ;-)
11:36 wahanui         DeM KraZy NutZ!!
11:36 vfernandes      where mtj?
11:35 mtj             vfernandes: its a tweak in your zebra config files
11:35 vfernandes      magnuse let me try it...
11:34 vfernandes      if I search for "Exemplar indispon" the search is correct... so the problem is in the "í". How i can ignore the accent?
11:34 magnuse         vfernandes: have you tried reindexing zebra?
11:34 kmkale          cant. I am on ssh to the server :(
11:33 mtj             nasty bug, that one :/
11:33 vfernandes      i'm using koha 3.2.6 with UNIMARC.... i have around 500 items with 995^u equals to "Exemplar indisponível" but if search for that string I can only obtain 11 records :/
11:33 mtj             kmkale:  try updating coreutil in single-user mode
11:33 mtj             kmkale:  try again, in single-user mode
11:31 pastebot        "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "coreutils update error" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/211
11:31 vfernandes      can you help with something guys? I'm having a little problem with Zebra indexes....
11:30 mtj             kmkale: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/441021
11:30 vfernandes      Hi Koha Community :)
11:29 kmkale          yep
11:24 mtj             bummer, looks like you are running generic kernel already :/
11:23 mtj             and please ignore my bigmem/pae statement
11:23 kmkale          its ubuntu 8.04
11:23 kmkale          mtj : Linux koha 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Jun 18 14:43:41 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
11:20 mtj             kmkale:  uname -a  ?
11:20 mtj             this looks like a nice generic safe kerne -> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/linux-image-2.6-486
11:17 mbalmer         heh, I'm running 5.99.58 here ;P
11:17 kmkale          2.6.24
11:17 mtj             oops, not that package :)
11:16 mtj             http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/kernel-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem-di
11:16 mtj             the 'bigmem' then the 'pae' kernels are the most general ones, i think?
11:15 mtj             wot kernel are you running now?
11:14 kmkale          I would hate to have to recreate all databases from the dump :(
11:14 kmkale          fsck seems to have taken care of the disk.
11:14 kmkale          thats the ONLY thing that changed. Apart from the disk corruption due to the crash.
11:13 mtj             you might need a lower spec kernel
11:11 mtj             ahhh, different cpus
11:11 mtj             hmm, not sure - i cant think why an 'ls' did work on a >2GB file, and now doesnt
11:09 mtj             http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#Value-too-large-for-defined-data-type
11:09 kmkale          should I try a kernel upgrade? Or is there a parameter to be supplied to the kernel at the boot time to be able to handle larger than 2gb files?
11:08 mtj             hmm, ok :/
11:08 kmkale          we ran a 32 bit system with the quad cpu so the kernel is the same
11:07 mtj             kmkale:  its a 32/64 bit kernal problem?
11:06 kmkale          mtj the server had a Core-2-quad cpu which failed. We have currently installed a dual core cpu. Could that be the problem?
11:05 slef            anyway, I've got to step away for an hour or so
11:05 mtj             kmkale: 'Your system does not support larger file >=2GB ' ?
11:05 slef            oic
11:05 mtj             kmkale: http://nixcraft.com/centos-rhel-fedora/14567-value-too-large-defined-data-type.html
11:04 mbalmer         well, not yet..
11:04 mbalmer         ok.
11:04 slef            (I have no privmsg)
11:04 slef            no privmsg
11:04 mbalmer         ok, see privmsg..
11:04 slef            mbalmer: ja aber sicher
11:03 slef            mbalmer: I'm likely to be in Edinburgh planning KohaCon while Marseille is happening... and I don't think restricting info to ppl there in person is good in general.
11:03 mtj             mbalmer:  i liked your netbsd lua slides, really interesting!
11:02 mbalmer         slef, do you grok german?
11:02 mtj             slef:  aah, a nice example there :)
11:02 mbalmer         slef, but bugs are lurking there!
11:01 mbalmer         slef, ah I see.  I have some slides on that.  and I can always show code, e.g. in Marseille, if you are there as well.
11:01 slef            mbalmer: yes, it's a design mistake, but it's of minor severity without another bug compounding it.
11:01 slef            mbalmer: this discussion about backend user granularity and security.
11:01 mbalmer         slef, it's not a minor error.  it is a design mistake.
11:00 slef            mtj: it has a kohaadmin user, but the opac uses that too, which is a minor error as long as the code is good... if the code is poor, then it's a serious error.
11:00 mbalmer         or what do you mean with "this"?
11:00 mbalmer         slef, I think there is not much relevant stuff for Koha.
11:00 mbalmer         but drivers for e.g. time signal station receivers.
10:59 kmkale          anyone knows what this means "ls: /var/lib/mysql/ibdata1: Value too large for defined data type"
10:59 slef            so it's either stuff that's irrelevant to this, or stuff we can't look at? :(
10:59 mbalmer         nope
10:59 slef            drivers that use databases?
10:59 mbalmer         mtj, no the POS stuff is not FOSS
10:58 mbalmer         lot's of stuff (userland, drivers) in NetBSD, FreeBSD, and, OpenBSD.
10:58 mtj             ooh, foss POS stuff sounds interesting
10:58 mbalmer         slef, also FOSS, actually quite a lot.
10:57 mtj             mysql slave replication for prod systems is a good thing
10:57 slef            mbalmer: anything FOSS?
10:56 kmkale          mysql server has started so onto checking data
10:56 kmkale          but before reboot did db dumps using innodb_force_recovery = 1
10:55 kmkale          just did a fsck. now going on to check mysql
10:55 mtj             i wonder how kmkale is getting on with his restore...
10:53 mbalmer         slef, we do point of sales and other funky stuff.
10:53 mtj             is that not how koha works currently? with the 'koha' application always having a 'kohaadmin' DB user, etc?
10:53 mbalmer         hmm, I gave a talk about it at FOSDEM but the slides seem not to be online ;(
10:52 slef            your applications?
10:50 mbalmer         In our applications, an application user is always a DB user and all security is handled in DB itself.  The application in it's UI merely reflects that.
10:48 slef            this is about having kohauser and opacuser passwords for SQL database and zebra I think
10:48 mbalmer         I was generally speaking, btw.  Not wrt Koha...
10:48 slef            mbalmer is right but this seems orthogonal to an ORM
10:47 mtj             ok, so would that not fix that security problem, then?
10:47 mbalmer         mtj, it can.
10:46 mbalmer         so even if you gain access to the DB using e.g. a command line tool, you can not change data you are not allowed to.
10:46 mtj             hmm, why cant the new ORM user be just a DB user, as before?
10:46 mbalmer         and the app can then find out which roles a DB user has, and present a GUI that only offers the options a user actually has the right to use.
10:45 mbalmer         if you use proper roles and security at the DB layer, you have no such problems.  i.e. the user account is a DB account.
10:45 mbalmer         now, if there is a bug, an intruder gets access to everything.
10:44 mbalmer         e.g. security:  many applications, especially webapps/php apps, use a single login for the database and handle user rights in the app.
10:44 mtj             but im sure ORM's do come with a bunch of their own problems too ;p
10:43 mtj             yeah, i have no experience there... :/ so cant comment
10:43 mbalmer         but a database is much much more that just a store for data.
10:43 mbalmer         it is this thinking in layers of abstractions...
10:42 mbalmer         using ORMs solves no problem, but creates tons of new ones.
10:42 mtj             'it' being the postgres stuff
10:42 mtj             i think people have been putting it off - because of talk about using a ORM instead...
10:40 mbalmer         I also look forward to dig deeper into the DB stuff.
10:40 mtj             yeah, the integration will be tricky, for sure
10:39 mbalmer         oh yes!
10:39 mtj             i'm quite excited to see koha running on postgres too :p
10:39 mbalmer         as for the concept well, as for the code I plan to join the "bouillabaisse" in march, to get it started.
10:38 mtj             mbalmer: hows the koha+postgres stuff going?
10:37 * mtj           has a google :)
10:36 mbalmer         syncrepl is an amazing feature
10:36 mtj             it sends transactions from master to slave, thats it?
10:35 mtj             its not quite as snazzy as  postgres'  synchronous replication, afaict
10:34 mbalmer         what is "slave-replication"?  Does that replicate the data itself?
10:34 mtj             mysql slave-replication works pretty well
10:33 kmkale          any experience of quality of data dumped in such cases using the innodb_force_recovery = 1 option?
10:32 kmkale          yep
10:32 kmkale          any experience of quality of data dumped in such cases using the innodb_force_recovery = 1 option?
10:31 mbalmer         I never looked at replication in MySQL, does it work well?
10:31 kmkale          heh I wish we had another server to replicate to in this instance.
10:25 mbalmer         one thing I look forward to when we have PostgreSQL support is synchronous replication, for exact such cases where a server dies.
10:25 kmkale          mbalmer: looks like I need it. There is disk corruption too
10:24 mbalmer         kmkale, good luck!
10:24 asaurat         ok
10:23 kf              it would be cool if you could
10:22 asaurat         kf, are you creating the new bug or shall I do it?
10:22 * kmkale_       is trying to recover mysql databases on a server which crashed due to cpu failure.  InnoDB recovery is a pain :(
10:20 kmkale_         namaste kf
10:20 kmkale_         namaste magnuse
10:19 * magnuse       agrees with kf
10:19 magnuse         namaste kmkale
10:16 kf              and should be fixed
10:16 kf              I think the security fix tops the other problem
10:16 kf              and a fix that goes not on top of the initial patch
10:16 kf              hm yes
10:15 magnuse         separate bug for the missing placeholders, maybe?
10:12 asaurat         that's why I put it in "in discussion" state, I'll make whatever I'm told to do but can't decide by myself =)
10:12 asaurat         but if we don't agree on a solution for the main topic of the bug, I can't make a patch
10:11 asaurat         oh ? didn't even see that
10:11 kf              I am worried about that and think it should be fixed
10:11 kf              because of the missing placeholders in sql
10:09 asaurat         *do you
10:09 asaurat         why do mention a security problem?
10:09 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7013 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, In Discussion , required format is not enforced for authorized values
10:09 asaurat         kf, about bug 7013
09:58 asaurat         nice :)
09:57 magnuse         ooh, that was some lunch...
09:56 kf              paul knows the name :)
09:56 kf              we went to a restaurant at the beach with a buffet
09:56 asaurat         oh yeah, you found  a restaurant cooking frog legs?
09:54 kf              perhaps time to try fish soup
09:54 kf              I ate frog when I was in marseille last year
09:52 asaurat         was still good, coz fish is good, me like fish
09:51 asaurat         :d
09:51 asaurat         we had to replace the fish soup with some kind of fish juice
09:51 asaurat         that's basically "fish parts" in "fish soup"
09:51 kf              what was missing?
09:51 kf              ah
09:50 asaurat         well, ok, but not perfect, we missed a few ingredients
09:50 kf              how did it turn out?
09:50 kf              I totally believe that
09:49 asaurat         I cooked a bouillabaisse while in Berlin, it's already expensive in Marseilles, but it costs an arm and a leg in Germany :D (if you really want to buy the mediterranean fishes ;))
09:49 kf              nah, I can do other fun things
09:47 asaurat         :D
09:44 mbalmer         see, you miss all the fun ;P
09:44 kf              :)
09:44 kf              I don't speak french
09:44 mbalmer         Mois de mars: Pastis, Bouillabaisse, et Koha....
09:43 kf              :)
09:43 kf              hi mbalmer and asaurat
09:43 asaurat         hallo kf!
09:42 mbalmer         hi again kf!
09:39 kf              hi again #koha
09:29 magnuse         namaste AmitG
09:28 AmitG           chris around?
09:28 AmitG           heya magnuse
09:12 magnuse         awesome!
09:06 rangi           http://catalyst.net.nz/node/23404
08:59 mbalmer         is paul poulain around?
08:59 wahanui         privet, mbalmer
08:59 mbalmer         hi there
08:33 magnuse         wow, very cool!
08:33 rangi           yup
08:32 wahanui         rumour has it 14 is fine by me
08:32 magnuse         14?
08:32 rangi           i think our youngest ever
08:32 magnuse         hehe
08:32 rangi           connor is only 2 years older than koha
08:32 magnuse         hm, didn't jo tweet something about learning to code the other day?
08:31 rangi           but no jo doesnt have a patch in koha directly, 100's and 100's indirectly tho
08:30 rangi           3 or 2 husband wife?
08:29 paul_p          we already have 3 wife & husband as Koha contributors. that will be our 1st son-mother isn't it ?
08:23 rangi           paul_p: who is coming from the US for the hackfest?
08:17 magnuse         Schwitzd: nope, there's no way to receive email notifications of new purchase suggestions at the moment
08:17 rangi           yup i reckon so
08:16 gaetan_B        thanks rangi! so maybe i should just add a comment on this bug rather than create a new one?
08:16 Schwitzd        at the moment there isn't a workarround?
08:16 Schwitzd        magnuse: thanks
08:16 rangi           its not quite the same bug, but close enough
08:15 rangi           gaetan_B: id add a patch to that there, its just that there is no referer on that page, or help for that matter
08:15 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7259 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Show a count of items pending approval on staff client home and tools pages
08:15 magnuse         Schwitzd: see also bug 7259
08:15 gaetan_B        is it the same bug or should i create a new one? i'm not sure what to do here
08:14 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error
08:14 gaetan_B        i'm looking at bug 7339, i have a similar problem in firefox and chromium, but only when i try to open the help on the admin home page
08:13 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7322 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Implement emailPurchaseSuggestions
08:13 magnuse         looks like that is bug 7322
08:13 Schwitzd        I use Koha 3.4
08:12 Schwitzd        magnuse: thanks :)
08:12 Schwitzd        Would be possible to receive a mail when a purhose suggestion is placed?
08:11 magnuse         Schwitzd: just ask away and we will see what we can do for you ;-)
08:10 magnuse         ah thanks rangi, sorry for confusing y'all!
08:10 Schwitzd        I have a question reguarding the notification
08:10 Schwitzd        Hi all!
08:09 rangi           also to cache the results, so it doesnt put load on the db
08:08 rangi           any report even
08:08 rangi           and report
08:08 rangi           as JSON
08:08 rangi           it lets you mark a report as public (which allows it be to accessed from the opac) using svc/report
08:07 rangi           also
08:07 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Caching for services
08:07 rangi           bug 7248
08:07 rangi           thats the one
08:07 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Report webservices
08:07 rangi           bug 7249
08:06 asaurat         hallo!
08:06 rangi           but close
08:06 rangi           hmm not that one
08:05 magnuse         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_/svc/_HTTP_API
08:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7213 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , Document /svc/ HTTP API and provide example command-line client
08:05 magnuse         bug 7213
08:04 paul_p          rangi, nope, i hadn't seen workbuffer.org. what's /svc/report ?
08:03 magnuse         get 'em while they're young!
08:02 magnuse         woohoo
08:02 rangi           so 11 students working on Koha related things
08:02 magnuse         yay
08:01 rangi           there is also another group of 5 students working on extending the Koha Android app
08:01 rangi           so ill be excited to see what chrisdothall has them doing by the end of the week :)
08:01 rangi           i wont be there the next 3 days, have to go a conf
08:01 rangi           best thing is, no template changes needed
08:01 gaetan_B        hello #koha!
08:00 rangi           http://academy17.catalyst.net.nz/projects/Koha/start.html  <--- too
08:00 magnuse         cool
07:59 rangi           the latter some other students built, using jquery and the report svc api
07:58 rangi           http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/
07:58 rangi           and
07:58 rangi           paul_p: did you see this http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/koha/svc/report?id=9
07:58 paul_p          rangi, that's my plan !
07:58 paul_p          too bad... you'll miss us
07:58 rangi           paul_p: connor dewar is jo's son, if you wanted to push his and sam's patches they could see the coverage go up tomorrow and be encouraged to write more :)
07:57 magnuse         (the norwegian library history wiki i have been working on for more than a year now)
07:56 magnuse         it collides with the annual norwegian library conference, where a project is paying me to present that project
07:56 magnuse         paul_p: sadly that is true
07:55 paul_p          magnuse, I've been told you can't come to European hackfest...
07:55 paul_p          Hello magnuse
07:55 paul_p          yep ;-)
07:55 magnuse         bonjour alex_a
07:54 paul_p          jransom twitted about that, so, definetly i'm sure
07:54 magnuse         i even think one of them is joann's son - how cool is that!
07:54 alex_a          morning koha
07:54 magnuse         catalyst_open_source_academy++
07:54 magnuse         you're probably right paul_p
07:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, connor.dewar, Signed Off , Unit tests required for all C4 modules
07:52 paul_p          (bug 5327, lot of patches coming from unknown ppl, i'm sure it's catalyst students)
07:51 paul_p          catalyst_open_source_academy++ !!!
07:50 paul_p          hello world
07:42 cait            bbiab :)
07:42 cait            ohhhh....
07:42 cait            you wouldn't?
07:35 chrisdothall    cait: I wouldnt look through some failed translations :p
07:35 wahanui         hola, reiveune
07:35 reiveune        hello
07:21 magnuse         more tests - yay!
07:17 cait            ping eythian
07:17 cait            only joking :)
07:17 cait            chrisdothall: I have an idea what you could do with your freed up time :P
07:17 cait            lol
07:16 magnuse         woohoo! :-)
07:16 chrisdothall    ohhh chrisk not chrish, im off freeee
07:15 * chrisdothall  reads backlog
07:15 chrisdothall    ibeardslee: sorry what is that?
07:14 magnuse         kia ora #koha
06:45 rangi           ahh
06:45 ibeardslee      tutors are on a twitter list
06:45 rangi           oohh jorgia found me on twitter
06:45 ibeardslee      enjoy, keep up the good work people
06:44 rangi           yup :)
06:44 ibeardslee      ;)
06:44 ibeardslee      ok, I'll sort it with chrisk .. bart won't need it until tomorrow evening
06:44 rangi           http://findingheroes.co.nz/tag/chris-cormack/
06:44 rangi           got another presentation to give
06:44 rangi           ibeardslee: im in bucklame tomorrow
06:43 ibeardslee      I'll have another go at it tonight after the speakers dinner
06:42 ibeardslee      rangi: can you check with chrisk tomorrow about that?
06:41 ibeardslee      it was 'spare' it may need further tweaking
06:41 ibeardslee      ok .. there was one server that was left out of the firewall config so couldn't be used from outside the network
06:40 jorgia          yea i could connect to myne from catalyst fine
06:40 jorgia          I have been able to connect to mine, Bart is having problems with his
06:39 ibeardslee      I was just able to login to it over my office VPN connection?
06:38 ibeardslee      jorgia: have you been able to connect to it this evening?
06:37 cait            mmmh breakfast
06:37 jorgia          oh okay, well i'll sort it out tomorrow
06:37 rangi           yeah, it seems toast
06:37 ibeardslee      and forgotten my password to the tool fix it
06:37 ibeardslee      I can't get a connection to it
06:36 ibeardslee      ahh
06:36 jorgia          sorry i can't, i left laptop at academy today
06:35 * ibeardslee    getting a bit low on battery but will take a look
06:34 ibeardslee      yeah does look a bit broken
06:33 rangi           can you ssh into it bart?
06:32 ibeardslee      possibly
06:32 jorgia          ibeardslee: hey it's Bart, my server seems to be down, academy19.catalyst.net.nz/projects/Koha/bart.html is there anything i can do from home?
06:30 rangi           javier is an excellent teacher
06:30 ibeardslee      oh fabulous
06:30 rangi           so theres really 2 koha streams going on its pretty cool
06:29 rangi           and have started adding bookcovers into the search results!
06:29 rangi           the android people have already fixed 5 bugs
06:29 rangi           yup
06:27 ibeardslee      I reckon it could be worth targeting an Academy purely for people to do Koha stuff
06:26 ibeardslee      sounds like could have taken 8 ;)
06:24 rangi           done
06:24 huginn          ibeardslee: The current temperature in Delacombe, Ballarat, Victoria is 32.6�C (5:20 PM EST on January 17, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 7%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady).
06:24 ibeardslee      @wunder Ballarat
06:23 ibeardslee      it is so hot!
06:22 rangi           will do
06:22 ibeardslee      nice, tweet that to the academy .. I'll retweet that and try and include LCA
06:22 rangi           yup, they did really well
06:21 ibeardslee      woohoo
06:18 cait            :)
06:18 rangi           smart bunch of students so was easy
06:18 rangi           the graphs are done with jquery and http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/koha/svc/report?id=9
06:16 rangi           ibeardslee: we also got 6 patches for unit tests sent today
06:16 rangi           and look jorgia is even on from her hotel/home/whereever :)
06:16 AmitG           heya cait
06:15 rangi           http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/
06:15 rangi           and
06:15 rangi           ibeardslee: yep good, take a look at http://academy17.catalyst.net.nz/projects/Koha/start.html
04:45 cait            jcamins++
04:43 jcamins_away    lol
04:43 cait            sleep well :)
04:43 jcamins_away    Good night.
04:43 cait            see, now we found the problem
04:43 jcamins_away    :)
04:43 cait            :)
04:43 jcamins_away    I'm going to bed now, actually.
04:43 jcamins_away    It is.
04:43 cait            but isn't it getting late for you?
04:42 jcamins_away    cait: really? Hm.
04:41 cait            normal time too :)
04:41 jcamins_away    cait: you're online early.
04:41 cait            oh thank you!
04:41 cait            normal time
04:41 jcamins_away    cait: signed off on your patch.
04:41 cait            hm
04:41 jcamins_away    cait: you're up early!
04:40 cait            hi #koha
03:56 jorgia          http://academy17.catalyst.net.nz/projects/Koha/start.html
03:53 ibeardslee      rangi: all going well?
03:44 AmitG           heya rangi
03:38 rangi           wellingtonians : http://wellington.pm.org/lightning_talks.html
03:34 AmitG           heya bag
03:34 AmitG           heyabag
03:33 _reason         next version of item types graph up at http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/# - improvement?
03:26 jcamins_away    That's the one!
03:26 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, Signed Off , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
03:26 jcamins_away    Bug... uhhh... bug 1633?
03:26 jcamins_away    No.
03:26 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1800 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, CGI::Carp Error on cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl?biblionumber=242
03:26 jcamins_away    No. Bug 1800?
03:25 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1600 enhancement, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Alternate address form should offer 2 address fields
03:25 jcamins_away    Easy to do based on my work on bug 1600.
03:25 jcamins_away    rangi: actually, I'm thinking of an image uploader that associates images with auths.
03:24 rangi           :)
03:19 jcamins_away    Or, I'd like it to be.
03:19 jcamins_away    rangi: that's all in jQuery too.
03:17 rangi           all in jquery
03:17 rangi           we arent changing templates at this point
03:17 rangi           heh
03:17 * jcamins_away  is going to harp on about those mouseovers until someone does them.
03:14 wizzyrea        that is pretty wicked.
03:11 jcamins_away    rangi: if you're still searching for super-cool projects for the OPAC, someone should implement mouseovers like this: http://www.kino-teatr.ru/kino/movie/sov/4615/annot/
03:10 jcamins_away    _Bart___: ah. I'm all for styling the OPAC. :)
03:09 _Bart___        jcamins_away: I'm just messing around with the styling, it might by up and down for a  bit :)
03:09 wizzyrea        oh dear.
03:09 jcamins_away    The other 40% were detective-related.
03:09 jcamins_away    Only 60% of their subject headings linked.
03:09 * wizzyrea      is not surprised
03:09 jcamins_away    wizzyrea: Actually, I just had a conversation with a public library about how many paperback detective novels they had.
03:08 _reason         thx :) working on improving it
03:08 mtj             academy peeps - i love the jquery graphs :)
03:08 _reason         thanks jcamins_away
03:08 chrisdothall    juggler-boy-123: http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/
03:07 jcamins_away    _Bart___: I want to know what you're working on, but the server seems to be down!
03:07 jcamins_away    _reason: I can confirm.
03:07 jorgia          oh nevermind .
03:06 jorgia          it is correct :)
03:06 _reason         can someone not in NZ check this displays local time? http://academy13.catalyst.net.nz/projects/koha/time/index.html
03:02 jenkins_koha    Koha_master: last build: 591 (8 h 38 mn ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/591/
03:02 jenkins_koha    Koha_3.6.x: last build: 27 (5 h 17 mn ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/27/
03:02 jenkins_koha    Koha_3.4.x: last build: 68 (1 mo. 8 j ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/68/
03:02 jenkins_koha    Koha_3.2.x: last build: 36 (1 mo. 14 j ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/36/
03:02 jenkins_koha    status of all projects:
03:02 rangi           !jenkins status
03:02 rangi           but i may well be wrong
03:02 rangi           i thought it had been shelved for the timebeing?
03:01 mtj             wizzyrea: i'm keen for a kc.org blackout
02:59 mtj             truly Koha... with class
02:58 jorgia          We worked on it together :)
02:57 rangi           6 patches even!
02:57 _Bart___        haha no :P we worked on the code together
02:57 jorgia          :(
02:57 rangi           and _Bart___ is copying jorgia if you believe jorgia
02:56 rangi           5 patches now
02:56 rangi           meanwhile juggler-boy-123 and samsanders are busy doing unit tests
02:56 _Bart___        http://academy19.catalyst.net.nz/projects/Koha/bart.html
02:56 * wizzyrea      hears the sound of librarians around the world realizing they have too many paperbacks (based on itemtype)
02:55 rangi           Kate: has been doing some funky stuff too
02:55 rangi           that was jono
02:54 wizzyrea        oh snaps
02:54 wizzyrea        that really is a thing of beauty
02:54 jcamins_away    jorgia++
02:54 jcamins_away    That freaking *rocks*.
02:54 rangi           http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/ also check this out
02:53 wizzyrea        jorgia++ !!
02:53 rangi           jorgia did it
02:53 wizzyrea        that's awesome
02:53 wizzyrea        holy shit rangi
02:53 rangi           fetching stuff in JSON from the reports svc and displaying it in jquery
02:52 rangi           wizzyrea: ^^
02:52 jorgia          http://academy17.catalyst.net.nz/projects/Koha/start.html
02:51 rangi           check this out!
02:49 wizzyrea        kind of.
02:49 wizzyrea        admittedly it's US centric
02:49 wizzyrea        oh question - does anybody want to black out k-c.org for sopa/pipa protest day?
02:44 wahanui         i guess marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html
02:44 mtj             marc21?
02:30 jcamins_away    mtj: awesome!
02:19 mtj             looks like if you want the full spec, you still gotta scrape a bunch of html :/
02:18 mtj             ... but its a good start for a script to verify Koha's MARC21 framework
02:18 mtj             "It is intended to meet the need for a simple data element list to support MARC system development and online validation of MARC data elements. This listing does not include any descriptions or examples of MARC data elements."
02:17 mtj             it does say its a brief doc, not a full doc
02:17 mtj             http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html
02:17 mtj             http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdlist.html
02:16 mtj             wow, i do believe i've discovered a machine readable spec of MARC21 on lov.gov
01:45 mtj             rangi: w00t !very nice!
01:42 Smurk           Thanks all for your help. Cheers!
01:25 rangi           http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/
01:25 rangi           check out
01:08 rangi           some cool jquery widgets built and 2 unit tests already
00:42 Smurk           (sorry, lots of newbie questions)
00:42 Smurk           Can it be that there is nothing running at all with cron?  It looks like there is no task organised at all...
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00:04 Smurk           OK, I will check that...
00:01 * jcamins_away  leaves again.
00:01 jcamins_away    Sounds like you don't.
00:01 jcamins_away    Smurk: you need to have rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z running every few minutes with cron.
00:01 Judit           cause
00:01 Smurk           Restarting the server would cause the problem? or solve it?
00:00 Smurk           I don't know... I am not working on the server right now.