Time  Nick                          Message
22:50 rangi                         yeah :(
22:49 chrisdothall                  yeah, even after you get a new phone you have to go through all the setup and w.e, and you will be phoneless for a while >.>
22:48 rangi                         annoying more than anything
22:48 rangi                         but yeah, filed lost property report, and lodged an insurance claim
22:48 rangi                         so i should get notified if someone connects it to the network
22:48 chrisdothall                  rangi: ouch badluck,
22:47 rangi                         and switched on prey to missing mode
22:47 rangi                         then race home and revoke access to all apps on the phone, and change passwords just in case
22:47 rangi                         so had to go to vodafone and block the account
22:47 chrisdothall                  and my typing is failing... sorry all
22:47 rangi                         my cellphone
22:47 rangi                         ahh
22:47 chrisdothall                  backlog*, what was it*
22:47 rangi                         because it had been turned off when i called it 30 mins
22:47 chrisdothall                  b
22:46 chrisdothall                  rangi: my irssi session died so I have nob
22:46 rangi                         i must have put it down somewhere in cuba street yesterday, and it got picked up by someone
22:45 chrisdothall                  rangi: what happened?
22:44 rangi                         right, claim lodged with insurance company
21:42 cait                          good night magnus_away
21:42 magnus_away                   g'night #koha
21:38 magnus_away                   http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.8
21:38 magnus_away                   or Jonathan Druart
21:37 cait                          jcamins_baking_compulsively: perhaps marcel?
21:37 magnus_zzz                    good plan :-)
21:37 * jcamins_baking_compulsively will nudge sekjal more then.
21:36 magnus_zzz                    or not far from it at least
21:36 jcamins_baking_compulsively   magnus_zzz: alas.
21:36 magnus_zzz                    yup
21:36 cait                          now talking in your sleep? :)
21:36 druthb                        hi, magnus_zzz!  :)
21:36 magnus_zzz                    cait is right, i'm only a bug wrangler, not a qa'er, and i sgined off
21:15 cait                          Hi :)
21:14 druthb                        o/
20:09 cait                          and I think magnuse is 'only' a bug wrangler?
20:08 cait                          jcamins_baking_compulsively: doesn't it have 3 sign-offs now?
19:59 huginn                        jcamins_baking_compulsively: The operation succeeded.
19:59 jcamins_baking_compulsively   @later tell magnuse Hey, you're part of the QA team. Wouldn't you like to be official QA-er for bug 1633? :)
19:39 slef                          rangi: it was painless filing a lost property report in Auckland!
19:33 cait                          :)
19:32 chrisdothall                  cait: morning :)
19:32 cait                          hi chrisdothall
19:32 cait                          :(
19:30 * rangi                       will bbl
19:30 * rangi                       heads off to file a lost property report at the police station, hopefully my contents insurance will pay out on the phone
18:47 jcamins                       (and my mother-in-law lives in a rural area)
18:47 jcamins                       If you're in a rural area, Verizon is really the only game in town.
18:46 jcamins                       There are some GSM providers, but the US doesn't really have the infrastructure for GSM yet.
18:45 jcamins                       Doesn't look like it.
18:44 slef                          Will it die?
18:44 jcamins                       *backward
18:43 jcamins                       Incredibly backwards.
18:43 jcamins                       That's the one.
18:42 jcamins                       CDMA.
18:41 slef                          jcamins: we also have some tri- and quad-band phones but not so many since 3G I think.
18:41 slef                          jcamins: we have UMTS too. Is Verizon that C... one?
18:41 rangi                         lol
18:41 rangi                         i can run koha on it
18:41 rangi                         so in theory
18:41 rangi                         its pretty much debian under the hood, afaict
18:41 cait                          I can ask rangi for help
18:41 cait                          I like it because when I get one
18:41 cait                          hehe
18:40 jcamins                       rangi: I noticed.
18:40 * rangi                       is rapidly talking himself into buying one
18:40 rangi                         also, with the n9 if you switch on developer mode, you get an ssh server, so you can ssh to your phone, which i like
18:40 jcamins                       (yes, Europeans can buy unlocked phones in the US)
18:40 jcamins                       slef: for those networks that use GSM you can have a European buy you a phone (or unlock it yourself), but Verizon doesn't use GSM.
18:39 jcamins                       slef: yes, that's true.
18:37 slef                          IIRC in the US, the market won't provide unlocked phones at sane prices, the regulators won't intervene to protect customers.
18:36 rangi                         (i can get it unlocked, so can hook up to any of the 3 providers here by getting a sim card)
18:36 slef                          heh, Verizon, from the land of the free (as long as you are not a phone customer)
18:36 rangi                         so on the n9, you can open a terminal, and dpkg -i
18:35 rangi                         yup
18:35 slef                          as was symbian... and that was FOSS before it died too
18:35 rangi                         its .deb based
18:35 rangi                         yep
18:35 rangi                         the main thing i like is it comes with a real terminal
18:35 slef                          meego was nokia wasn't it?
18:33 jcamins                       A shame that Verizon will never offer that as an option.
18:33 rangi                         i actually had meego running on my netbook for a while
18:33 jcamins                       Nifty.
18:33 rangi                         nope, its linux
18:32 jcamins                       I thought that was the Nokia OS.
18:32 rangi                         sorta
18:32 jcamins                       Oh, looks like MeeGo is too.
18:32 jcamins                       cait: yeah, but isn't android open source?
18:31 cait                          it's not google
18:31 jcamins                       rangi: meego is better than android?
18:22 rangi                         cool
18:22 cait                          he seems quite happy too
18:22 cait                          he let me test type on it :)
18:22 rangi                         oh cool
18:22 cait                          it's nice
18:21 rangi                         http://n9.indigoblack.de/
18:21 cait                          I think uli has that
18:21 rangi                         mostly because its running meego, and people have already done stuff like this
18:21 cait                          oh
18:21 cait                          and morning rangi :)
18:21 cait                          yep
18:21 rangi                         http://www.mobicity.co.nz/nokia-n9-16gb.html   <--- now im thinking about this for my next phone
18:20 rangi                         cait: talking about different things I think :)
18:19 slef                          yeah but it's a seductive idea, copying content to manipulate search engine results... until you realise that most engines will delete you for it
18:18 cait                          it's only one mail so far
18:18 cait                          hm
18:17 slef                          updated http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Install-instructions_on_the_wiki_RFC#Proposal_2 - I'm really worried that we may get koha-community.org banned from search engines :-/
17:50 cait                          hi slef
17:50 slef                          hi all... how did that Audio NP spam get onto koha.lists.katipo.co.nz?
16:48 cait                          hi #koha
15:03 cait                          and hi #koha
15:03 cait                          hi jcamins :)
15:02 * jcamins                     waves to cait.
14:55 jcamins                       Enjoy.
14:55 jcamins                       Most of the collections I host are ones that I am cataloging, too.
14:55 kmkale                        gotta go dinner time bbl
14:54 kmkale                        that isent me?
14:54 jcamins                       If the OPACs get 1 search per day that isn't me, that's unusual.
14:53 jcamins                       But I work with very unusual collections.
14:53 jcamins                       Well, not on EC2.
14:53 jcamins                       Hm. Mostly I find myself running out of disk space.
14:52 kmkale                        my amazon instances always feel like there is a cpu heavyweight running on the same server
14:51 kmkale                        most of the time that is
14:51 kmkale                        but 80gb is ok for koha n RT
14:51 kmkale                        yeah thats true and the cloud files stuff cant be attached as a volume
14:50 jcamins                       The other problem with Rackspace is that the disk space is linked to the amount of memory, so you can't have a system with extra disk space.
14:49 kmkale                        aww. opposit experiences
14:48 jcamins                       At least, that's what it felt like to me.
14:48 jcamins                       ByWater used Rackspace, and either a server was down or the control panel was down nearly all the time.
14:47 jcamins                       Wow.
14:47 jcamins                       Really?
14:47 kmkale                        huh? I have a request tracker install on rackspace thats not gone down at all in last 1 year
14:46 kmkale                        rackspace 2gb mem image performs better than amazom m1.small
14:46 jcamins                       My experience with Rackspace is that they went down all the time.
14:46 jcamins                       Oh?
14:45 kmkale                        must say rackspace is better in performance and price
14:45 kmkale                        i did a koha install on rackspace today and one on amazon last week
14:45 jcamins                       Okay.
14:44 kmkale                        let it be
14:43 jcamins                       Housing problems for you, too?
14:39 jcamins                       I'm very sorry to hear that.
14:38 jcamins                       Oh no!
14:38 kmkale                        things are pretty bad for me right now. Great workwise bad otherwise..
14:38 jcamins                       No problem.
14:37 kmkale                        sorry was on the phone
14:37 jcamins                       :)
14:37 jcamins                       How about for you?
14:37 jcamins                       Other than that, things are going very well.
14:37 jcamins                       So I spent about an hour on the phone yesterday shouting at people.
14:36 jcamins                       Between that, the cockroaches (we have hundreds), and the fact that everything in our apartment is falling apart, we don't like living here.
14:34 jcamins                       :)
14:34 kmkale                        :) spread the fudge around
14:34 jcamins                       Our downstairs neighbors scream all night every night.
14:34 jcamins                       I wish.
14:34 jcamins                       lol
14:34 kmkale                        no late night parties allowed?
14:33 kmkale                        heh
14:33 jcamins                       And our current landlord is terrible.
14:32 jcamins                       Right.
14:32 kmkale                        so current residence is a rented one is it?
14:31 jcamins                       Either the seller, or the lawyer, or someone.
14:31 kmkale                        hell
14:31 jcamins                       We were approved, but now it sounds like someone doesn't want to close.
14:31 kmkale                        ?
14:31 jcamins                       Yup.
14:31 kmkale                        jcamins: that co-op thing?
14:31 jcamins                       kmkale: things are going pretty well, except our apartment purchase has hit a snag.
14:30 jcamins                       Next time I see him online, I'll nudge him.
14:30 kmkale                        jcamins: so how's life in the big apple?
14:30 jcamins                       :)
14:29 kmkale                        jcamins: :) you took the words off my mouth / keyboard
14:29 kmkale                        yes and he seems to have signed it off
14:29 jcamins                       Perhaps he can mark it Passed QA.
14:29 jcamins                       Though, it seems to me that magnuse is on the QA team.
14:28 kmkale                        as changes to other files like sysprefs fails the patch, like it did for me today
14:28 * jcamins                     has been telling sekjal that it's ready for QA every day.
14:28 jcamins                       Agreed.
14:28 kmkale                        jcamins: we need to push QA to pass this and RM to push this. Else we will have to keep making new patches every few days :(
14:28 jcamins                       Though it took me a half hour to figure that out.
14:27 jcamins                       Right.
14:27 kmkale                        *subject
14:27 kmkale                        so you just changed the cubject line?
14:27 kmkale                        yes I was just reading your comment
14:19 jcamins                       kmkale: I didn't change the code at all, just reuploaded it.
14:18 jcamins_away                  kmkale: I fixed the patch.
12:32 kmkale                        bye all
12:09 Culiforge                     right on, thanks everyone.. you're all so helpful, now to get more coffee and see what's under the hood so to speak.
12:08 cait                          :)
12:08 cait                          but you should use a superlibrarian (that's a permisson) for everything else
12:08 Culiforge                     yup, I was gonna hunt that down now that web setup is complete
12:08 cait                          you will need it for updates
12:08 cait                          it has no real borrowernumber - that can cause problems
12:08 kmkale                        have a look at http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/
12:08 Culiforge                     so gary login is essentially the root and has too many permissions
12:08 cait                          it's not a real user and weird things can happen
12:08 cait                          don't use the 'root' admin from installation to play with it
12:07 Culiforge                     ie. gary=sysadmin and others =branch librarians
12:07 cait                          always create another admin login
12:07 kmkale                        yes
12:07 Culiforge                     so my gary login is the admin through the web interface.. I need to create individual sub logins for smaller admin tasks right...
12:05 Culiforge                     no brainer.. that's the way to go... it just gets easier from here on out
12:05 kmkale                        yes
12:05 Culiforge                     so I just centrally install koha and web access it from each school.. right?
12:04 kmkale                        yep
12:04 Culiforge                     well, I work for my city's school system and I'm looking into cataloging all the libraries... it seems it would be much easier to carry around an external HD with a "portable" koha on it... hmmm... gears turning... I can access all features of a koha install from any computer right?
12:02 kmkale                        you just need a backup of ur mysql db. thats it. reinstall koha on a new server, restore mysql db backup and u r good to go
12:01 kmkale                        meaning?
12:01 Culiforge                     that's not bad.. has anyone worked out portability for a koha installation?
12:00 kmkale                        thats 32g for a 1mil record koha server
11:59 kmkale                        and /etc/koha
11:59 kmkale                        add /var/lib/koha to that list
11:58 kmkale                        heh and on a real server with about 1 mil books its 18gb
11:58 Culiforge                     roughly how much book data do you have i.e. #of records
11:57 Culiforge                     mine shows a hare over 334M but that's without any book data
11:56 kmkale                        mine says 1.6gb total
11:56 kmkale                        tried it works if you just string up the dirs with space inbetweeen
11:54 kmkale                        not that I know of
11:54 kmkale                        + /var/lib/mysql/
11:53 Culiforge                     is it possible to string all those directories under the same command or no?
11:53 kmkale                        + /var/run/koha
11:53 kmkale                        + /var/lock/koha
11:53 kmkale                        + /var/log/koha
11:52 kmkale                        dirs /usr/share/koha
11:52 kmkale                        try urself use du -chs command on
11:52 Culiforge                     rough estimate?
11:51 kmkale                        haven't counted ;)
11:50 Culiforge                     so out of curiosity... without any marc info... how much space does a koha install take up?
11:49 Culiforge                     hehe, it's like xmas morning!
11:49 kmkale                        yup
11:49 Culiforge                     so the login for the koha web setup is my 'gary' and pwd?
11:49 kmkale                        :-D
11:48 Culiforge                     aha... eureka! and 'bon vivant! and pip pip
11:47 kmkale                        then create database and do grant all again then flush privs again
11:46 Culiforge                     database isn't showing up in show databases;
11:44 kmkale                        check database name in mysql n koha-conf.xml match
11:44 Culiforge                     hmm, still unknown database error
11:43 kmkale                        yes
11:43 Culiforge                     do I need to do the flush privileges in mysql
11:42 Culiforge                     getting unknown database error on webpage now
11:39 kmkale                        heh :)
11:39 Culiforge                     <==== dope
11:39 Culiforge                     aha! figured it out... when i pasted the grant command I didn't remove the <>'s
11:37 kmkale                        yup
11:36 Culiforge                     then create database databasename;
11:35 kmkale                        drop database databasename;
11:35 Culiforge                     what's the drop command
11:34 kmkale                        try logging in to mysql as root and drop database and re-create it. then do a grant all again
11:34 Culiforge                     no odd characters.. all apha numeric
11:34 kmkale                        u need to solve that problem first. try checking the database name
11:34 Culiforge                     denied
11:33 Culiforge                     no
11:33 kmkale                        mysql -ugary -p <databasename>
11:33 kmkale                        that was a in
11:32 Culiforge                     just i or -i
11:31 kmkale                        are u able to login wiith mysql -ugary i command line using the same password?
11:30 kmkale                        do you have any # or other such odd character in the password?
11:30 kmkale                        right
11:22 Culiforge                     apache is running otherwise I wouldn't get the web error msg right?
11:16 Culiforge                     hmmm... everything seems in order. reran the grant cmd  still won't allow access
11:14 kmkale                        brb
11:12 kmkale                        also check the database name in the xml file is the same as the database u created in mysql and did a grant all on
11:11 kmkale                        try mysql -ugary -p
11:11 Culiforge                     hmm, same
11:10 Culiforge                     any flushing or updating? or back to web... OK
11:10 kmkale                        try web installer again
11:10 kmkale                        thats fine
11:10 Culiforge                     ok, no output at a -> prompt
11:09 kmkale                        replace *'s wiith your password from the xml file thats it
11:09 Culiforge                     single quotes yes, parentheses no?
11:06 kmkale                        SET PASSWORD FOR 'gary'@'localhost' = PASSWORD( '******' )
11:05 Culiforge                     I'm in mysql -uroot
11:05 Culiforge                     ok, found it in the xml... it's what I thought it was... don't know why it isn't the same from the mysql setup.. but how do I go about changing it in mysql
11:01 kmkale                        its at /etc/koha/
11:01 Culiforge                     ok, where is the xml file located..
11:01 Culiforge                     I could look back, I just hope it's not more than 20000 lines
11:00 kmkale                        and reset it in mysql to same value
11:00 kmkale                        not from mysql but you can read it in ur koha-conf.xml
11:00 Culiforge                     is there a way to retrieve the pwd from mysql... I was certain of what I used
10:59 kmkale                        match your gary user mysql passwoord to that in koha-conf.xml
10:59 Culiforge                     so, as I take baby steps.... I'll need to change the mysql gary pwd and update it in the koha-conf.xml<somethigorother>?
10:57 kmkale                        so thats the pproblem
10:52 Culiforge                     mmm, denied
10:51 kmkale                        using the same credentials
10:51 kmkale                        check if you can access ur db via comandline mysql tool
10:50 Culiforge                     yes. did grant all
10:50 Culiforge                     this is where I ended up a month or so ago trying to install koha. I thought I had messed things up irreparably but I was being so careful this time
10:49 kmkale                        Culiforge: check ur mysql password for user gary and if u did a grant all on .... during install
10:48 fredericd                     kmkale++
10:47 Culiforge                     Hey, guess what... I'm back. http://pastebin.com/JJbUGv4N
10:43 kmkale                        u r welcome :)
10:43 Culiforge                     sweet, thanks so much... I'll be back when I mess up something else :)
10:42 kmkale                        yup
10:42 Culiforge                     so I should be good to move on to the web setup now?
10:42 kmkale                        there u go
10:42 Culiforge                     woot!
10:42 Culiforge                     is that what we were looking for?
10:42 kmkale                        cool
10:42 Culiforge                     gary      2246  0.0  0.1   3376   804 pts/2    S+   05:41   0:00 grep --color=auto zebra
10:42 Culiforge                     gary      2225  0.0  1.1  29620  5044 ?        S    05:39   0:00 /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
10:42 Culiforge                     gary      2224  0.0  0.1   3696   532 ?        Ss   05:39   0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.kohadatabase --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
10:42 Culiforge                     ps aux |grep zebra
10:41 kmkale                        ps aux |grep zebra
10:41 Culiforge                     starting zebra server
10:40 kmkale                        sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start
10:40 kmkale                        cool so try running zebra again then :)
10:39 Culiforge                     I did
10:39 kmkale                        did you run the above sudo chown -R commands?
10:39 Culiforge                     left and right button together should emulate middle click
10:39 Culiforge                     drwxr-xr-x 3 gary     koha 60 2012-01-13 16:43 koha
10:39 Culiforge                     ls -l /var/lock|grep koha
10:39 kmkale                        and ls -l /var/run|grep koha
10:38 kmkale                        and ls -l /var/lock|grep koha
10:38 * kmkale                      doesn't have a middle button on his laptop
10:38 Culiforge                     drwxr-xr-x 2 gary              koha    4096 2012-01-13 16:57 koha
10:38 Culiforge                     ls -l /var/log|grep koha
10:38 Culiforge                     yeah my biggest kudo is that I learned the middle button copy/paste thing... pretty proud of myself
10:37 kmkale                        and show us the output of ls -l /var/log|grep koha
10:37 kmkale                        so run the above chown commands
10:36 kmkale                        hey don't worry we all learnt the same way :)
10:36 Culiforge                     ok, group is there
10:36 Culiforge                     through the users/group from desktop gui.. (i'm pretty green... using linux about 2 months now please excuse if I say dumb stuff )
10:35 kmkale                        sudo groupadd koha
10:35 kmkale                        groupadd koha
10:34 kmkale                        Culiforge: how do you know then that gary is in group koha?
10:34 Culiforge                     I have gary in group koha but i'm not sure koha group exists.... how do I check
10:33 kmkale                        sudo chown -R gary:koha /var/run/koha
10:33 kmkale                        sudo chown -R gary:koha /var/lock/koha
10:33 kmkale                        so create a group koha, add user gary to group koha and the  do sudo chown -R gary:koha /var/log/koha
10:32 kmkale                        as per yor daemon file the group needs to be koha
10:31 kmkale                        do a sudo chown -R gary /var/run/koha
10:31 kmkale                        do a sudo chown -R gary /var/lock/koha
10:31 kmkale                        do a sudo chown -R gary /var/log/koha
10:30 Culiforge                     var/log is writable but group is root
10:29 kmkale                        these need to be writable to your gary user
10:28 kmkale                        and /var/lock/koha
10:28 kmkale                        and /var/run/koha
10:28 kmkale                        ok now check perms on /var/log/koha
10:27 Culiforge                     -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18040 2009-12-14 16:28 /usr/bin/zebrasrv-2.0
10:27 Culiforge                     ls -l /usr/bin/zebrasrv-2.0
10:27 kmkale                        ls -l /usr/bin/zebrasrv-2.0
10:27 Culiforge                     lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2012-01-12 06:34 /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv -> /usr/bin/zebrasrv-2.0
10:27 Culiforge                     ls -l /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv
10:26 kmkale                        ls -l /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv
10:26 Culiforge                     lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2012-01-12 06:34 /usr/bin/zebrasrv -> /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv
10:26 Culiforge                     ls -l /usr/bin/zebrasrv
10:25 kmkale                        ls -l /usr/bin/zebrasrv
10:25 Culiforge                     how do I get that output? ie.. what command?
10:24 kmkale                        here is how my perms look : lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           26 Jan 27  2009 /usr/bin/zebrasrv -> /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv
10:23 Culiforge                     /usr/bin/zebrasrv permissions did not change...
10:21 kmkale                        sudo chown gary /var/run/koha
10:21 kmkale                        sudo chown gary /var/lock/koha
10:21 kmkale                        sudo chown gary /var/log/koha
10:20 kmkale                        sudo chmod a+x /usr/bin/zebrasrv
10:20 Culiforge                     how do I check write access to logdir, rundir and lockdir and change perms for zebrasrv
10:18 Culiforge                     zebrasrv is owned by root and read/write by owner read only by group and  others
10:16 Culiforge                     here is my daemon file: http://pastebin.com/ttnHbxXt
10:16 kmkale                        Culiforge: also test if /usr/bin/zebrasrv actually exists and if its executable by all
10:15 kmkale                        your user needs write access to the dirs LOGDIR, RUNDIR and LOCKDIR
10:14 kmkale                        Culiforge: ^^ is how my /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon file starts
10:14 Culiforge                     my user at the head of this file is user=gary Do I specifically need the koha user as well.. I don't recall actually creating it if the git tutorial did'nt specifically say to
10:13 pastebot                      "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "/etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/203
10:12 kmkale                        Culiforge: have you created a user koha?
10:11 Culiforge                     yes, they are there as you typed
10:10 kmkale                        Culiforge: ok then edit the /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon and check your KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml and ZEBRASRV=/usr/bin/zebrasrv lines
10:10 Culiforge                     kmkale was saying I'm not getting correct output from sudo ps aux |grep zebra
10:09 fredericd                     So, once you have finished installiong everything, you have to populated your DB and see if Zebra works
10:09 Culiforge                     if I understand what you're asking
10:08 Culiforge                     brand new install so I believe not
10:08 fredericd                     you need to be able to check Zebra search/indexing
10:08 fredericd                     Do you hava data in your koha instance?
10:07 fredericd                     cait: hello!
10:07 Culiforge                     fredericd: just trying to get koha installed and running... making sure I fix any errors as I go
10:07 cait                          hi fredericd :)
10:06 Culiforge                     scrolling back, I see no errors or warnings during the make install
10:06 fredericd                     Culiforge: What is exactly your problem?
09:59 Culiforge                     ok, back. yes I did
09:56 kmkale                        did you choose to install and use zebra during perl Makefile.PL step?
09:55 kmkale                        should have a koha-zebradaemon.err and a koha-zebradaemon-output.log
09:55 Culiforge                     afk one min brb
09:54 Culiforge                     I have a koha-error_log and koha-opac-error_log and a readme
09:52 kmkale                        if not check the zebra log under /var/log/koha
09:52 kmkale                        if zebra has started.
09:52 kmkale                        ok then sudo ps aux |grep zebra should return atleast two lines
09:52 Culiforge                     I get back 'starting zebra server'
09:51 kmkale                        Culiforge: and did it say starting zebra server?
09:51 Culiforge                     I did
09:51 fredericd                     sorry, I've misread...
09:51 kmkale                        Culiforge: then did you do a "/etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start" ??
09:50 kmkale                        you still need to run zebra server
09:50 kmkale                        fredericd: zebraqueue is deprecated
09:50 Culiforge                     yes
09:49 kmkale                        after q in less command did you run "sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults" command
09:49 Culiforge                     just following the git install tutorial for lucid...
09:49 fredericd                     Culiforge: why do you use koha-zebra-daemon? It's deprecated. Your're supposed to use rebuild_zebra.pl and a cronjob...
09:49 Culiforge                     dang!
09:48 kmkale                        that does not look right
09:48 kmkale                        no you need to see a big line telling you how zebra is running
09:48 Culiforge                     no errors at least :)
09:47 Culiforge                     does that look right?
09:46 Culiforge                     gary      2036  0.0  0.1   3376   796 pts/2    S+   04:46   0:00 grep --color=auto zebra
09:46 kmkale                        do a /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start and check if zebra has started by running ps aux |grep zebra
09:45 Culiforge                     ahh, dvm.. q did it
09:44 Culiforge                     i've lost my prompt though... after that less command
09:44 Culiforge                     all right, that appears to have done it
09:43 kmkale                        if its the correct file then sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults again
09:42 kmkale                        then check if you can open the file by doing less /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
09:42 kmkale                        by doing a sudo ln -s /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
09:41 kmkale                        Culiforge: just remove the link by doing a rm /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon and then recreate
09:41 Culiforge                     I don't understand?
09:40 kmkale                        $/usr/... ??
09:38 Culiforge                     lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 2012-01-13 17:03 /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon -> $/usr/share/koha/bin//koha-zebra-ctl.sh
09:37 kmkale                        check if the link points to a correct file
09:36 kmkale                        Culiforge: see a ls -l of /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
09:30 Culiforge                     file exists, file does not exist?
09:30 Culiforge                     update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: file does not exist
09:30 Culiforge                     gary@gary-desktop:~/kohaclone$ sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults
09:30 Culiforge                     ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon': File exists
09:30 Culiforge                     :~/kohaclone$ sudo ln -s /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh  /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
09:08 cait                          not sure
09:08 kmkale                        woonder how to get rid of that
09:08 kmkale                        nope. It has my comments. But the content-type lines remain
09:07 cait                          accidently
09:07 cait                          hm perhaps you added it back
09:06 kmkale                        this file has come unchanged with the double content-type lines intact
09:06 huginn                        03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=7153&action=edit patch, Bug 1633 - [SIGNED-OFF] Interface revisions for the staff client, Bug-1633---SIGNED-OFFInterface-revisions-for-the-s.patch
09:06 kmkale                        but see attachment 7153 where I edited the file in /tmp and then did a git am
09:05 kmkale                        the patch with syspref file changes which I did by resolving megre markers has come out correctly
09:05 kmkale                        no
09:01 cait                          and it looks all ok to me :)
09:01 cait                          you can only do them one by one
09:01 cait                          yep
09:01 huginn                        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
09:01 kmkale                        cait: could you please have a look at bug 1633 page and try to spot if I have made a mistake?
09:00 kmkale                        had to do them one by one but I think I have all five attached to the bug report now.
08:51 cait                          until you have them all attached
08:51 cait                          do it again with one less ^ and without -e
08:51 cait                          now
08:47 kmkale                        ok here goes
08:47 cait                          and yes, should be the same, but you will see in the screen if it's the right one
08:46 cait                          all 5 patches?
08:46 cait                          did you all?
08:44 kmkale                        now onto "git bz attach -e  xxxx <commitid of first commit" this being the same commit id i gave to rebase correct?
08:43 kmkale                        "Successfully rebased and updated refs/heads/bug_1633."
08:33 cait                          yep
08:32 kmkale                        ok. so lets try git rebase 1stcommitid^ --interactive with 1stcommitid being commit id of the 1st patch I applied when scrolling don on git log.
08:31 cait                          before reattaching them
08:31 cait                          you need the rebase when you want to add your sign-off to the pathces
08:30 wahanui                       That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :)
08:30 kmkale                        ok cait ?
08:30 Oak                           weird
08:29 kmkale                        ok trying git bz attach -e HEAD^^^^
08:29 cait                          scrolling down when looking at git log
08:29 cait                          that you applied
08:29 cait                          and it's the first patch commitid
08:29 cait                          that's when you want to add your signoff
08:29 cait                          yep
08:29 cait                          that's what I do, I know there are other ways
08:29 kmkale                        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#Signing_off mentions rebase
08:28 cait                          HEAD^^^^
08:28 cait                          meh
08:28 cait                          git bz attach -e HEAD^^^1
08:28 cait                          I would do
08:28 kmkale                        am I wearing the invisibility cloak?
08:28 Oak                           ah, i don't see his messages on this window.
08:28 kmkale                        hiya Oak
08:28 wahanui                       kmkale may be psychic.
08:28 cait                          kmkale?
08:28 Oak                           who are you talking to cait? I only see your messages, and rangi's for the past 15 minutes.
08:27 kmkale                        How do I do that? git bz attach -e ?
08:27 kmkale                        so I need to create and attach new set of patches to obsolete the one needing change.
08:27 cait                          add comments?
08:27 cait                          but why rebase?
08:27 cait                          yes
08:26 kmkale                        had to change two of the five.
08:26 kmkale                        I have already applied the ppatches.
08:26 cait                          why do you want to do the rebase?
08:26 kmkale                        or a "git bz apply <bugnumber> HEAD^^^^" as advised by cait?
08:25 kmkale                        but here goes..do I do a "git rebase 1stcommitid^ --interactive" now?
08:24 kmkale                        about 1stcommitid
08:23 * kmkale                      is confused as usual ;)
08:22 cait                          heya rangi
08:22 cait                          oh typo
08:22 rangi                         git bz attach (not apply) but otherwise cait is right as usual
08:16 Oak                           ~ Mildrad S. Fenner in NEA Journal
08:16 Oak                           "Yes," she answered in cool tones clearly audible to the teacher, "but you can't have any more. I gave you all I could spare last night."
08:16 Oak                           Seems that he had to borrow a dollar from his thrifty and money-conscious first-grader one night to pay the paper boy. The next morning he got to worrying lest he had taken her lunch money; so he hurried to the school, knocked at her classroom door and asked to speak with her. "Do you have any money?" he asked anxiously.
08:15 Oak                           A suburban father is wondering what his daughter's teacher thinks of him:
08:15 Oak                           jokeL
08:05 cait                          :)
08:05 cait                          you are welcome :
08:05 kmkale                        Thanks cait :)
08:05 kmkale                        ok. Will try that after I test.
08:03 cait                          from the bug
08:03 cait                          and git bz apply -e if you want to obsolete patches
08:03 cait                          or less
08:03 cait                          might be one ^ more
08:03 cait                          git bz apply <bugnumber> HEAD^^^^ I think
08:03 cait                          ok
08:02 kmkale                        re submit the patches with the changes
08:01 cait                          add your signoff?
08:01 cait                          so what do you want to do?
08:01 cait                          ok
07:59 kmkale                        yes
07:59 cait                          that should be ok
07:59 cait                          using git am?
07:59 kmkale                        by doing a 3 way merge
07:59 kmkale                        I had to make changes to 1st and last of the 5
07:59 cait                          and do you need to add your sign-off?
07:59 cait                          cool
07:59 cait                          ok
07:59 kmkale                        Git log shows all 5
07:58 kmkale                        cait: I have applied all 5 patches now.
07:58 cait                          kmkale: do you need to change them or just want to reattach them to the bug?
07:57 cait                          git log shows you all patches?
07:57 cait                          you applied all of them now, right?
07:57 wahanui                       i guess the first is the command i ran
07:57 cait                          the first
07:56 kmkale                        but what is the 1stcommitid? the 1st patch or the last patch? is it the topmost commitid shown by git log?
07:56 kmkale                        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration tell me to do git rebase 1stcommitid^ --interactive
07:54 kmkale                        Now I will have to re-generate all the 5 patches and attach to the bug right?
07:54 kmkale                        the first & last ones did not apply. So I had to change by doing a 3 way merge.
07:54 kmkale                        there are 5 patches attached to that bug
07:48 cait                          what do you want to do? what do yo mean by recreating?
07:48 cait                          git is nice
07:48 cait                          it will be all ok
07:43 * kmkale                      is scared of git
07:43 kmkale                        then the daunting task to recreate the changed patches and push :(
07:43 cait                          :)
07:42 kmkale                        Now to test
07:42 kmkale                        ok. That did it.
07:40 kmkale                        oki. Trying that
07:40 cait                          if it makes it apply
07:40 cait                          should be ok
07:40 cait                          I thinkm so :)
07:40 kmkale                        so is it ok to edit the /tmp/SIGNED-OFF-Bug-1633---Interface-revisions-for-the--pJmkEv.patch file and remove the extra line?
07:40 cait                          I think so
07:38 kmkale                        yes
07:38 kmkale                        is it ok if I edit the /tmp/... file directly and delete the lines?
07:38 cait                          is it the patch I showed you the link ti?
07:38 kmkale                        its got the pasted lines extra over and above other patches attached to the bug
07:38 cait                          I think it has one Content-Type: too many
07:37 pastebot                      "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "content type problem?" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/202
07:37 cait                          I would delete one of those encoding lines
07:37 cait                          look at it on bugzilla
07:37 cait                          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=6983
07:36 cait                          right?
07:36 cait                          the last
07:36 cait                          ah
07:36 wahanui                       first patch is in
07:36 cait                          hm first patch?
07:35 kmkale                        1633
07:35 cait                          which bug is that?
07:35 cait                          I would look at the file next
07:34 cait                          ok
07:34 kmkale                        did --abort the again git am -i3 /tmp/... but again getting "fatal: cannot convert from UTF-8utf-8 to UTF-8"
07:33 cait                          deleting one or both should fix it
07:33 cait                          it was like that last time I had the problem
07:33 cait                          if you look at it, there are probably 2 lines for encoding at the beginning
07:33 cait                          probably the file itself is ok
07:33 cait                          hm more something about the encoding lines
07:33 kmkale                        is it a file encoding type problem?
07:32 cait                          git am --abort again :)
07:32 kmkale                        "previous rebase directory /home/kk/kohaclone/.git/rebase-apply still exists but mbox given."
07:31 cait                          try without -u
07:31 cait                          hm
07:31 kmkale                        did but git am -iu3 also gives "fatal: cannot convert from UTF-8utf-8 to UTF-8" for this file
07:31 cait                          the problem is git bz apply doesn't do -3
07:30 cait                          and then git am -iu3 /tmp/...
07:30 kmkale                        did
07:30 cait                          kmkale: do git am --abort
07:30 Oak                           :)
07:30 cait                          h Oak :)
07:30 pastebot                      "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "git bz apply error" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/201
07:30 Oak                           Good morning cait :)
07:28 cait                          hi kmkale
07:28 kmkale                        Namaste cait
07:28 cait                          good morning #koha
07:23 kmkale                        ok. now can I use git bz to continue applying rest of the patches attached to the bug? whats the command for that? Same as git bz apply 1633 ??
07:20 rangi                         then you can attach the fixed patch
07:20 rangi                         yep fix up the conflict and mark resolved
07:19 kmkale                        it has put <<<<<<< HEAD in the file.  and put in the additions. So now I just remove the markers and save the file? then mark as resolved?
07:17 kmkale                        trying that
07:17 rangi                         and it will try to merge, and if it gets conflicts you can fix them
07:16 rangi                         y
07:16 kmkale                        its asking Apply? [y]es/[n]o/[e]dit/[v]iew patch/[a]ccept all ?? edit?
07:16 rangi                         right
07:14 kmkale                        ok. Its because sysprefs file has changed after the patch has been signed off. So I need to shift the additions down to the end of the file.
07:13 rangi                         and try a 3 way merge
07:13 rangi                         git am -iu3 /tmp/Signed-off-patch-MQYbwi.patch
07:13 rangi                         git am --abort
07:13 rangi                         so what you can do now is
07:13 rangi                         e
07:13 rangi                         git bz doesnt try a 3 way merg
07:13 rangi                         nope
07:11 kmkale                        how do I go about resolving this? Do I edit /tmp/Signed-off-patch-MQYbwi.patch ??
07:10 pastebot                      "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "git bz patch fail" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/200
07:10 Oak                           kia ora #koha
06:57 kmkale                        got it working now. Teaches me not to follow two pages together ;)
06:56 rangi                         that oughta work
06:56 rangi                         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#Configure_git-bz
06:55 kmkale                        aahh. Tried to be clever didn't I? used auth-user from the man page
06:54 kmkale                        tried setting auth-user and auth-password too. No go :(
06:54 rangi                         git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-password PW
06:54 rangi                         git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-user U
06:54 rangi                         and you did the configure username and password bit?
06:53 kmkale                        yep did that.
06:50 rangi                         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
06:50 rangi                         did you check out git-bz from slefs repo?
06:47 kmkale                        ok. I am working on a cloud hosted server through ssh. So no cookies. Now how do I get git bz to authenticate?
06:36 kmkale                        any idea what could be causing git bz to give error like "NameError: global name 'host' is not defined" ??
06:26 kmkale                        this is the second time I have faced this issue but can't reproduce reliably to pin it down :(
06:25 kmkale                        fresh even
06:25 kmkale                        rangi: yes gresh git based install. Whenever you do one yourself next time, please use a password with # in it and test.
06:25 rangi                         its probably that
06:25 rangi                         because a patch was recently pushed to cache to config file
06:24 wahanui                       well, running master is a lot of work
06:24 rangi                         oh, running master?
06:20 kmkale                        yikes!! it showed old password in the logs so I restarted apache. No difference. Restarted mysql, no difference. Restarted memcached and voila new password shown in the logs and the error was gone. Completely confused :(
06:15 kmkale                        i did but the password is not showing up in web or logs
06:13 rangi                         (thats teh DBI connect, so we need to figure out if its getting the right password)
06:12 rangi                         you've put the warn in?
06:10 pastebot                      "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "Koha barfs on # in mysql password" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/199
06:01 kmkale                        yikes!! Can't reproduce the error after changing the password back. Will investigate further and report :(
05:55 rangi                         if the passwd isnt, its the code reading the config file
05:55 rangi                         if the passwd is ok in the warn, then it looks like a bug with DBI itself (or dbd::mysql)
05:52 kmkale                        yep will paste the error in just a moment
05:52 rangi                         causing even
05:52 rangi                         (its causeing an internal server error eh?)
05:51 kmkale                        ok. testing now
05:51 rangi                         do a warn $db_passwd
05:51 rangi                         $db_user, $db_passwd, {'RaiseError' => $ENV{DEBUG}?1:0 }) or die $DBI::errstr;
05:51 rangi                         my $dbh= DBI->connect("DBI:$db_driver:dbname=$db_name;host=$db_host;port=$db_port",
05:51 rangi                         and before this line
05:51 rangi                         find the sub _new_dbh
05:50 kmkale                        the password is typed correctli in the conf file. I tried copy pasting from the conf file into command line mysql and it works
05:50 rangi                         in C4/Context.pm
05:50 kmkale                        how do I verify that?
05:49 rangi                         and its getting the passwword ok out of the koha-conf.xml
05:49 rangi                         hmm
05:48 kmkale                        phpmyadmin and mysql command line logins work with # char in mysql password. But Koha fails
05:15 rangi                         causes koha, or mysql?
05:14 kmkale                        a # character in mysql password causes koha to barf :(
04:12 rangi                         well that sux
03:39 mib_rednqy                    i'm very happy
03:39 mib_rednqy                    l8r
03:33 mtj                           ok, gonna scoot now
03:28 mib_rednqy                    marc21 then  :-)
03:27 mib_rednqy                    xie xie
03:27 mtj                           if your'e english - marc21,  if euro then unimarc
03:26 mib_rednqy                    quick question or suggestion......unimarc  or marc21?
03:20 mib_rednqy                    thanks for being here.... singing off
03:20 mib_rednqy                    I'm probably good to go for a while.  I'll go update my install doc and then continue the web install steps
03:18 mtj                           no probs, ive done it hundreds of times :p
03:17 mib_rednqy                    thanks for your help and patience
03:17 mtj                           its the last 'user' def that you want :)
03:17 mib_rednqy                    yep, i'm understanding a bit more now
03:17 mtj                           cool, the first two 'user' defs are for zebra bib and authorities
03:16 mib_rednqy                    to infinity and beyond
03:16 mib_rednqy                    web installer step 1
03:16 mib_rednqy                    yea
03:16 mtj                           those are what you need
03:15 mtj                           look at the 'user' and 'pass' values
03:15 mib_rednqy                    trying
03:15 mib_rednqy                    I just found that one
03:15 mtj                           .
03:15 mtj                           its the last section
03:15 mtj                           you need to open up the config file and look in the 'config' section
03:14 mtj                           theres *3* user elements in the config file
03:13 mtj                           ok, so i gave you bad advice
03:11 mib_rednqy                    right
03:11 mtj                           to the admin interface?
03:10 mtj                           so, you cant log in?
03:10 mib_rednqy                    no joy with that userid either
03:09 mib_rednqy                    ok.....I created a different userid than what's in that conf.xml file
03:08 mtj                           its the user that koha attempts to connect to mysql
03:08 mib_rednqy                    hmmm      no joy
03:07 mtj                           fyi: its what *you* chose too, afaik
03:07 mtj                           thats it
03:06 mib_rednqy                    is there an admin user, or would that be it?     found in /etc/koha/sites/booklibrary/koha-conf.xml
03:05 mib_rednqy                    kohauser is the only '<user>' in the koha conf file
03:01 mib_rednqy                    and thank you mtj
03:01 mtj                           ha, cool :)
03:01 mib_rednqy                    thank you web headers
03:01 mib_rednqy                    hey, it's the web installer
03:00 mtj                           ... with your browser
03:00 mtj                           then hit 'booklibrary-intra.chpcs.org'
02:59 mtj                           right so... add those to your hosts file....
02:59 mtj                           " /etc/apache2/sites-enabled# grep -i ServerName * "
02:59 mib_rednqy                    ServerName booklibrary.chpcs.org    ServerName booklibrary-intra.chpcs.org
02:59 mtj                           " /etc/apache2/sites-enables# grep -i ServerName * "
02:58 mtj                           wrong dir
02:58 mib_rednqy                    hmmm nothing
02:58 mib_rednqy                    " /etc/apache2# grep -i ServerName * "
02:58 mtj                           whats the intranet  'ServerName' set to?
02:57 mtj                           there should be 2, opac and intranet...
02:57 mtj                           so whats the ServerName value set to ?
02:56 mtj                           hmm
02:56 mib_rednqy                    has nothing
02:56 mib_rednqy                    "/etc/apache2/sites-enabled# grep kohaadmin *  "
02:54 mib_rednqy                    System Maintenance  The Koha Online Catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon! If you have any questions, please contact the Site Administrator
02:54 mib_rednqy                    same result.  a redirect to maintenance.pl
02:52 mtj                           yep ;)
02:52 mib_rednqy                    ok  and have it resolve to the IP of the the koha install??      yes...ok
02:52 mtj                           echo '192.168.0.33 kohaadmin' >>  /etc/hosts
02:51 mtj                           try adding a kohaadmin hosts entry to your pc
02:50 mib_rednqy                    I can't reach http://kohaadmin/   does not resolve
02:47 mtj                           using your ip address hits the OPAC, the OPAC is waiting for you to start the web-install...
02:46 mtj                           yep, try  http://kohaadmin/
02:45 mib_rednqy                    it loads   http://192.168.0.33/cgi-bin/koha/maintenance.pl
02:45 mtj                           try  http://kohaadmin/
02:45 mib_rednqy                    my koha install
02:45 mtj                           yep... cool...
02:45 mib_rednqy                    then I request the web UI at the base...    http://192.168.0.33/
02:43 mib_rednqy                    lastly "show tables"     and 0 tables
02:43 mib_rednqy                    I then "use librarydb"
02:43 mib_rednqy                    i did that with koha-create..    then I connected into mysql and did "show databases".  This listed librarydb
02:39 mtj                           'Once those are done you should be able to see something at http://kohaadmin/ and http://koha/ from your desktop machine. The admin user will be koha_koha, find the password by looking in /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml'
02:38 mtj                           kohabox$ sudo koha-create --create-db koha
02:38 mtj                           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_Up_Koha_in_Virtual_Environment_%2B_Using_That_as_a_Development_Environment#Step:_Install_Koha
02:37 mtj                           ... afaik
02:37 mtj                           mib_rednqy:  those tables are created when you walk-through the Koha web installer
02:35 mib_rednqy                    anyone?
02:04 mib_rednqy                    is there a sql file that I can use to populate the librarydb ?
02:04 mib_rednqy                    librarydb is created but contains 0 tables
02:04 mib_rednqy                    i ran koha-create --create-db librarydb
02:00 mib_rednqy                    I have a koha database, but no tables
01:59 mib_rednqy                    hi everyone.  quick question.  Using apt-get and the koha-community.org debian repo, I installed koha.  then I installed mysql