Time  Nick           Message
23:38 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ago, ASSIGNED , Diacritics not being ignored when searching
23:38 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5543 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Date ISO format wrong separator
23:38 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7278 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , In the items table, make items.materials of type text, and show its contents at circulation
23:38 jenkins_koha   * root: Bug 2629 - Diacritics not being ignored when searching
23:38 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 5543 - Date ISO format wrong separator
23:38 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Bug 7278 follow-up DBrev number
23:38 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7728 was not found.
23:38 jenkins_koha   * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7278: Follow up fixing display of item informaton on detail page
23:38 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 7278 : Additional Materials
23:38 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 7728 : Materials Specified field made larger and displayed
23:38 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #586: SUCCESS in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/586/
22:53 gmcharlt       rhcl: thanks for the cookie! ;)
22:52 gmcharlt       rhcl: pong
22:52 rhcl           ping gmcharlt
22:51 jcamins        Frittata time!
22:48 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_2629' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d57da73c2f51d837cb7557d7e8ca368cd74fe5c4> / Bug 2629 - Diacritics not being ignored when searching <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35bc73eca324c371982747f2f0454a71a4f46245> / Bug 5543 - Date ISO format wrong separator <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi
22:44 jenkins_koha   Starting build #586 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:40 Mkman          well see you guys tomorrow
22:40 Mkman          its 10:39PM here in Portugal
22:40 jcamins        paul_p++
22:40 jcamins        Mkman: no, but May 4 is International French Toast Day.
22:39 paul_p         4 patches pushed...
22:39 wizzyrea       sleep well :)
22:39 paul_p         ( and going to bed now, as it's 11:40PM here :D )
22:39 paul_p         Mkman, i'm french ;-)
22:38 Mkman          are you french?
22:38 Mkman          lol
22:36 jcamins        For those of you who have forgotten, May 4 is International French Toast Day.
22:35 Mkman          today was an awesome day lol
22:35 Mkman          lol
22:35 Mkman          humm the apache is running ok. so i guess i mess up some on the installation
22:34 * jcamins      declares January 10 International Frittata Day.
22:33 Mkman          yeh i dont have any problems with the gentoo repos
22:33 maximep        haha
22:33 * jcamins      installed whatever the port maintainers suggested, and didn't run into any problems. :P
22:33 maximep        I can't stand using distros
22:32 maximep        using gentoo since 2006
22:32 * jcamins      used to use FreeBSD.
22:32 maximep        not the same
22:31 * wizzyrea     too
22:31 jcamins        ;)
22:31 jcamins        I run a2enmod for all the modules I want.
22:31 jcamins        maximep: I decide that too.
22:31 maximep        i guess most people don't care about that level of configuration
22:30 maximep        =)
22:30 maximep        gentoo is all about choosing what modules u want!
22:29 Mkman          i compiled it together
22:27 jcamins        Ugh!
22:27 jcamins        You have to recompile Apache to change which modules are loaded?
22:27 Mkman          recompiling apache again. it seems to be some problems with modules that i flag to be compiled and modules that are needed to be loaded and are not
22:25 jcamins        Definitely a good idea. :)
22:24 liw            magnus_away, thank you, thank you
22:24 Mkman          i digg into and maybe in the final i write some ebuilds to make it easier to install it on gentoo
22:24 Mkman          sure no problem
22:24 Mkman          :)
22:23 jcamins        Remember that none of us have ever experienced any of the problems you're encountering, and many of us have switched to using the packages to get everything configured for us.
22:23 jcamins        Mkman: you'll want to troubleshoot that, then.
22:21 Mkman          jcamins: i tryied to stop apache and it seems that is some module that is configured the wrong way
22:20 wizzyrea       ^^
22:20 jcamins        Also, you might not have a Listen *:8080 set up yet.
22:20 jcamins        Easier.
22:20 * jcamins      would suggest just checking in the Apache config.
22:20 wizzyrea       try changing it to 127.0.0.1:8080 and 127.0.0.1:80
22:19 wizzyrea       man, i am typo happy
22:19 wizzyrea       .0.0.1 I mean
22:19 jcamins        Check.
22:19 jcamins        I guess it could be something else on Gentoo.
22:19 wizzyrea       well try changing it to 127.0.0.2:8080 and :80
22:19 jcamins        It defaults to 127.0.1.1 on Debian.
22:19 Mkman          humm
22:18 Mkman          unable to connect
22:18 jcamins        And *:80
22:18 jcamins        You'll want to change that to *:8080
22:18 jcamins        No one knows exactly why.
22:18 jcamins        It defaults to 127.0.1.1:8080.
22:18 wahanui        koha is a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info
22:18 rhcl           koha?
22:18 jcamins        Ah.
22:18 Mkman          like http://www.servername.com:8080/ i dont remenber what is the default name that i configured
22:17 jcamins        That is, what server are you talking about?
22:17 jcamins        Mkman: what do you mean?
22:17 Mkman          jcamins: i have a question. what is the default server name?
22:15 jcamins_away   Myshkin objects.
22:15 * jcamins_away waves.
22:09 schuster       by all
22:09 Mkman          i put the default and i forgot :|
22:09 Mkman          what is the default servername?
22:09 Mkman          yeh i had an error in the path of the command
22:06 Mkman          well see you guys tomorrow
22:00 Mkman          that sucks
22:00 Mkman          humm i dont really know why that error is showing :(
21:48 seneca         nice
21:48 wizzyrea       â—”_â—” also a good one
21:47 wizzyrea       rather makes me giggle.
21:47 wizzyrea       ﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿ from the "look of disapproval" chrome extension
21:39 seneca         something about more brains being better
21:39 seneca         d
21:39 seneca         indee
21:39 wizzyrea       (really)
21:39 wizzyrea       i love it when that happens
21:39 seneca         ;P
21:39 seneca         ew...
21:39 wizzyrea       WOOT!
21:38 seneca         wizzyrea: thanks for the link earlier - it didn't directly lead me to my answer, but it made me look at the problem in a different way and now everything's hunky dorey
21:38 wizzyrea       it's all gentoo all the time today, apparently
21:38 wizzyrea       just not today
21:38 wizzyrea       :)
21:38 wizzyrea       always debian questions dangling about
21:38 seneca         I'm a Debian faithful - are still Debian questions needing answers? I'd love to be able to answer some questions for others, for a change. )
21:31 Mkman          brb i will eat something before i die
21:31 Mkman          long day meh
21:27 Mkman          humm
21:27 Mkman          21:25:43-10/01 [fatal] Could not parse /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
21:27 Mkman          I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml"
21:25 wizzyrea       (and I consider appropriate laziness a virtue)
21:25 Mkman          yes
21:25 wizzyrea       *shrug* I just use the tools apache gives me because I'm SUPER LAZY
21:25 wizzyrea       but a2ensite does the same thing
21:24 wizzyrea       well it'd probably be ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha
21:24 Mkman          wizzyrea: ln -s /etc/apache2/koha /etc/apache2/sites-enable/koha ?
21:21 Mkman          eheh
21:21 * eythian      just uses apt-get ;)
21:20 wizzyrea       you can always just symlink in your site into sites-enabled from sites-available - or maybe i'm not picking up what you're putting down
21:20 rhcl           he was serious
21:19 wizzyrea       bye
21:19 * oleonard     heads out
21:19 Mkman          can you guys replace this tool, with some basic commands that do the same thing?
21:19 Mkman          sudo a2ensite koha && /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
21:16 wizzyrea       :P
21:16 wizzyrea       which is still a great phone, once I got rid of touchwiz
21:15 wizzyrea       galaxy s 1
21:15 wizzyrea       but I think mine predates carrierIQ
21:15 eythian        neither did mine, I've only had the nexus range. Also our carriers don't seem to do that anyway
21:15 eythian        that certainly makes it better :)
21:15 wizzyrea       my android phone didn't have it, ever afaict
21:15 oleonard       eythian: The difference is that Apple put carrierIQ on the phones for themselves, not the carriers ;)
21:14 wizzyrea       oh :)
21:14 eythian        oh, I was arguing with the blog
21:14 wizzyrea       oh I'm not disagreeing with you on that
21:13 eythian        apple installed carrierIQ on _all_ their phones
21:13 eythian        > Apple, because they put the consumer first and have proven time and time again that they will not bend to carrier bullshit and will often work against them behind the scenes.
21:13 wizzyrea       fortunately we ended up with the worst of both - we pay *and* we pay with our personal info. Neato.
21:12 wizzyrea       </rant>
21:11 * wizzyrea     has a problem with the usage of free (no cost) in there - anything ad supported is never "no cost" - you pay for it with your personal information
21:11 Mkman          i still use an Nokia Express Music 5310
21:10 * oleonard     hasn't used Android but found it an interesting read
21:10 oleonard       http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android
21:10 wizzyrea       "it's not open enough?" was that the gist
21:10 wizzyrea       well maybe
21:10 wizzyrea       hmm no
21:09 oleonard       wizzyrea: Did you see the recent "Why I hate Android" blog post?
21:09 wizzyrea       it's a bit rough still but mostly functional
21:08 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , User Configurable Slips
21:08 wizzyrea       bug 7001
21:08 wizzyrea       kind of loving this new notices stuff
21:08 wizzyrea       I think if you did it, someone somewhere will want to see it
21:08 rhcl           We also have all our OPACs running on a hacked Mint distro installed in mini-ITX computers. Suppose anybody out there cares to see it?
21:08 wizzyrea       and an android tab :)
21:08 Mkman          eheh
21:07 Mkman          i only run Linux. it makes me feel at home. Windows just make me feel like a pretty girl doesnt nothing inside
21:07 eythian        nice and consistent :)
21:07 eythian        I have it easy, Linux servers, linux desktop at work, linux desktop and laptop at home :)
21:06 Mkman          eheh that's fine too
21:06 oleonard       Mkman: I do, but not as my primary OS. Windows at work, OSX at home, Linux VMs for dev stuff.
21:06 wizzyrea       careful oleonard, it's a trap!
21:05 rhcl           Now if I can get my talented, but document challenged, tech to write it up maybe we can release it into the wild.
21:05 Mkman          oleonard: you do not use Linux?
21:05 wizzyrea       and you're not totally wrong :P
21:05 wizzyrea       but we know that you love linux people, so it's cool
21:04 trea-lunch     hehe
21:04 wizzyrea       HAHA
21:04 oleonard       Great, now Linux people can be mad at me whenever :)
21:04 rhcl           I think we, at long frustratingly last, have our children't computer, built on Mint, up and running .5 stabily.
21:04 Mkman          ehehe
21:04 Mkman          my father's pc runs OpenSuse
21:04 huginn         wizzyrea: Quote #179: "oleonard: Linux people are the ones who spend the longest pulling on the door that says push ;) "But pushing is /better/!"" (added by wizzyrea at 09:03 PM, January 10, 2012)
21:04 wizzyrea       @quote get 179
21:04 huginn         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #179 added.
21:04 wizzyrea       @quote add oleonard: Linux people are the ones who spend the longest pulling on the door that says "push" ;) "But pushing is /better/!"
21:03 rhcl           but Mint for the Masses
21:02 rhcl           It <IMHO> has the best general server and admin toolset installed by default
21:02 Mkman          yeh OpenSuse is pretty cool
21:01 rhcl           ah, No, I'm by choice more of an OpenSuse person.
21:01 seneca         a distro of linux
21:01 seneca         I think he means red hat
21:01 rhcl           "rh" - don't get it
21:01 seneca         Careful, there's a lot of us about. ;)
21:01 Mkman          in fact it is pretty simple
21:00 Mkman          eheh. it's not hard recompiling on gentoo
21:00 oleonard       "But pushing is /better/!"
21:00 oleonard       Linux people are the ones who spend the longest pulling on the door that says "push" ;)
21:00 eythian        which for someone whose nick starts with 'rh' is almost ironic :)
20:59 rhcl           I greatly admire his dedication, for me the debian-path-of-least-resistance would have been automatic
20:59 eythian        I don't think I've ever had to manually recompile apache
20:59 Mkman          :)
20:58 * oleonard     is glad recompiling apache isn't in the standard instructions
20:58 Mkman          not it's not my type that tools doesnt exist here. i had to re-compile apache
20:54 wizzyrea       ohhhhh
20:52 Mkman          No it's was my typo lool
20:52 wizzyrea       so I can fix the typos lol
20:52 wizzyrea       good heavens what instructions are you looking at
20:49 Mkman          oh maybe that's it. a typo
20:49 trea-lunch     it's spelled "a2enmod"
20:49 Mkman          let me check again
20:49 Mkman          humm i dont have it on my system
20:48 wizzyrea       apache 2 enable mod
20:48 Mkman          what is  a2nmod ?
20:47 Mkman          :D
20:44 wizzyrea       :)
20:44 wizzyrea       YOU WIN
20:44 Mkman          yehh make test is OK
20:37 wizzyrea       druthb: lulz
20:37 jcamins        rhcl: in all seriousness, if you have access to the Zhenskii zhurnal microfilm, they're pretty great.
20:36 druthb         it's a good thing lunch finally got here...I think trea was thinking of gnawing my other leg off.
20:35 seneca         thanks, wizzyrea
20:34 wizzyrea       http://support.novell.com/docs/Tids/Solutions/10062292.html may help you
20:33 seneca         indeed :)(
20:33 seneca         and so far, I can't find any logs on the Novell system ;)
20:32 seneca         on the Koha side, the response I get from the LDAP server is that the user gets "0 hits" but I know that user exists, and is in fact able to log into the Novell system just fine.
20:31 maximep        faster to let your irc client autocomplete :p
20:31 seneca         maximep, I agree ;)
20:31 wizzyrea       hehe all good
20:31 maximep        haha
20:31 seneca         sorry - twitter muscle memory..
20:30 seneca         got it
20:30 wizzyrea       he was responding to your @
20:30 seneca         ha!
20:30 huginn         wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
20:30 seneca         *purs one out for Debian*
20:30 wizzyrea       huginn is a bot
20:30 maximep        seneca: fcapovilla. There has to be errors on either side telling u why they can't login :S
20:30 magnus_afk     see ya!
20:30 seneca         What's that, huginn?
20:30 jcamins        Think flappers only more adorable.
20:30 wizzyrea       :D
20:30 magnus_afk     i know it has been said before, but i'll risk saying it again: the debian packages and their scripts are AWESOME!!! liw++ eythian++ srdjan++
20:30 jcamins        rhcl: and NEP-era fashion is just the cutest thing you've ever seen.
20:29 jcamins        rhcl: it is.
20:29 wizzyrea       please install libgd?
20:29 rhcl           I think pre-1917 Russian history would be fascinating, should put that on my to-do list
20:29 huginn         seneca: I've exhausted my database of quotes
20:29 seneca         @maximep Who is your coworker?
20:29 Mkman          output from cpan -f -i GD
20:28 Mkman          http://pastebin.com/8pg8E6j8
20:28 Mkman          it is already installed
20:28 wizzyrea       jcamins is lovably eccentric
20:28 wizzyrea       ^^ that's the one I was forgetting
20:28 * jcamins      goes back to admiring vintage 1928 Soviet sewing patterns for robes.
20:28 Mkman          let me try
20:27 jcamins        Mkman: don't forget cpan -i ExtUtils::MakeMaker. That might be why you're encountering errors.
20:27 maximep        -f -i
20:26 Mkman          does not work lool
20:26 Mkman          cpan -f GD
20:26 seneca         Oh yeah, who is that?
20:26 seneca         I've had my set up working with my Novell eDir/LDAP server for a while, but I have found 3 users that can't log in...but I can't figure out why.
20:26 gmcharlt       seneca: what's your question?
20:25 maximep        my coworker who isn't here has
20:25 seneca         Has anyone had much experience with authenticating to LDAP?
20:25 wizzyrea       alas
20:25 * wizzyrea     wishes
20:24 gmcharlt       ;)
20:24 wizzyrea       ha, very funny
20:24 gmcharlt       wizzyrea++
20:24 gmcharlt       wizzyrea has fixed all of CPAN?!?!?
20:24 wizzyrea       well, that might be too inclusive - I've managed to solve every one I've come across so far
20:23 Mkman          eheh
20:23 wizzyrea       i've solved every one :P
20:23 maximep        but seriously, afaik, a lot of cpan stuff has tests that fail
20:22 maximep        :p
20:22 wizzyrea       tests sometimes uh, fail for a reason?
20:21 maximep        bah why try to make the tests works when u can ignore them :p
20:20 wizzyrea       maybe you need extutils::command?
20:20 maximep        -f i think
20:20 maximep        forgot the switch to do it
20:20 wizzyrea       oh I've seen that -- sec
20:20 maximep        tests fail. You need to force install
20:18 Mkman          What seems to be the problem here? http://pastebin.com/FiHU2gJ5
20:18 Mkman          what sucks is that you need to input the name of the module by hand that is that is not automate script to download and install the requirements modules
20:17 Mkman          i am installing the cpan modules with cpan
20:16 maximep        or u installed them via cpan
20:15 maximep        and koha ? are there perl dependencies in portage ?
20:15 maximep        good to know
20:14 Mkman          emerge yazz before compile
20:14 Mkman          that's it.
20:14 Mkman          and emerge yazz
20:14 Mkman          maximep: yeh it is pretty easy. ./configure;make;make install
20:14 maximep        or i might just put a virtual debian
20:13 maximep        well, maybe
20:13 maximep        yes
20:10 Mkman          maximep: was you that is going to install zebra on gentoo right?
20:03 maximep        well u succeeded at making me jealous
19:57 druthb         (oh, and food on the way, too.  FTW^2.
19:56 Mkman          dinner brb
19:55 schuster       rainy cold view yuck... through the cinderblock wall.
19:55 druthb         I've got the Pacific Ocean right across the street, one of my fantastic teammates (and a really good friend) sitting here at the table, and more on the way.  FTW.
19:55 maximep        :/
19:55 maximep        for me it's more like : snow view
19:55 Mkman          yeh but its dark now
19:54 druthb         That'd be nice, too.
19:54 Mkman          from here i can only see trees
19:54 Mkman          that's nice
19:53 druthb         Don't mean to make anyone *too* jealous, but Two Words:  Beach View.
19:52 * druthb       sneaks in.
19:29 jcamins        Bye cait.
19:22 cait           bye wizzyrea
19:22 cait           :)
19:22 cait           oh
19:22 Guest23587     bye cait
19:22 cait           bye all
18:44 * paul_p       leaving for dinner. See you in an hour or something like that
18:32 Mkman          gentoo is supply that too in the future :D
18:32 jcamins        Mkman: that's why we all use apt-based distros.
18:24 Mkman          ehehe
18:24 Mkman          it's so awesome solving this by hand
18:20 jcamins        Mkman: sounds like you don't have List::MoreUtils installed?
18:17 Mkman          http://pastebin.com/aeqUjQbP I am getting this error while make test and i have the path correctly configured
18:11 huginn         jcamins: The operation succeeded.
18:11 jcamins        @later tell wizzyrea see bugs 4222 and 7142.
18:06 * wizzyrea     will discuss this later - must jet for a bit
18:05 jcamins        wizzyrea: yeah, that's correct.
18:04 wizzyrea       huh. The private item note doesn't seem to be displayed anywhere
18:02 Mkman          yeh. when i am finished i will have to make some kind of script to automate this task
18:00 jcamins        Mkman: pretty much everyone here is on apt-based distros.
18:00 jcamins        Mkman: yes, I'd think so.
18:00 wizzyrea       just sayin. :)
18:00 wizzyrea       Mkman: http://libraryhacker.org/2011/05/01/your-favorite-distro-is-not-our-favorite-distro/
17:56 Mkman          jcamins: the cpan modules it's me who has to install all of them?
17:53 wizzyrea       yes thats what I meant
17:52 jcamins        If your kohaclone is not at /home/mkman/kohaclone, change the command to match where it is.
17:52 Mkman          oh ok
17:52 jcamins        Mkman: wizzyrea means that you should set the path to match your installation.
17:52 wizzyrea       it's not, you have to run it
17:51 Mkman          it fails on make tests
17:51 Mkman          the variable is located in which file?
17:51 jcamins        Mkman: but note that you have to finish the install process before you have a koha-conf.xml file.
17:50 wizzyrea       export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/your/koha-conf.xml
17:50 wizzyrea       also
17:49 wizzyrea       (do note that path is variable -- insert the path to your clone)
17:48 wizzyrea       ^^ because if it's there, you need to do that
17:48 jcamins        Mkman: yeah, probably missing export PERL5LIB=/home/mkman/kohaclone
17:48 wizzyrea       do you see Budgets.pm in kohaclone/C4
17:47 Mkman          Bailout called.  Further testing stopped:  ***** PROBLEMS LOADING FILE 'C4::Budgets'
17:47 Mkman          yeh my typo C4::Budgets
17:46 wizzyrea       rhcl: see what jcamins said
17:45 * jcamins      would probably go with eresource${ISSN}, FWIW.
17:45 jcamins        rhcl: you have unique bib numbers. Every record has its own bibnumber.
17:45 magnuse        C4::Budgerigars?
17:45 rhcl           wizzyrea: so if it was done like your last comment, wouldn't you have to create unique bib#s? And if you had a zillion of these, how would you track them?
17:45 * wizzyrea     checks
17:45 wizzyrea       sounds like a typo
17:45 wizzyrea       budges?
17:44 Mkman          yeh because when i run make test it fails on C4::Budges
17:44 wizzyrea       Mkman: you probably need to export your environment variables
17:44 jcamins        Oh, gee, thanks!
17:44 wizzyrea       (for a cataloger)
17:44 jcamins        Mkman: that's part of Koha.
17:44 jcamins        The Cloisters are *all the way* across the city.
17:44 * wizzyrea     thinks jcamins is perfectly well adjusted
17:44 jcamins        I'm completely uncloistered.
17:44 Mkman          how do i install C4::Budges?
17:43 jcamins        rhcl: hey now!
17:43 wizzyrea       hehe
17:43 rhcl           Those people are too cloistered.
17:43 rhcl           Not really.
17:43 wizzyrea       or a dummy barcode like "eResource<bib#>"
17:42 wizzyrea       is how NEKLS does it
17:42 rhcl           When I grow up I want to be a cataloger.
17:42 wizzyrea       rhcl: that's fine
17:40 rhcl           Allrighty then. Good enough work for me to leave for the day.
17:40 magnuse        jcamins: cool, thanks
17:40 Mkman          is me who needs to install all the cpan modules?
17:40 jcamins        magnuse: I don't know.
17:40 jcamins        rhcl: that sounds right.
17:39 rhcl           is that OK?
17:39 rhcl           Ok, so we just done did add "Information and Technology in Libraries" to our catalog. Everything looks good and the link connects as it should. However, the OPAC shows "Availability: No copies available " unless you create an item record w/o a barcode.
17:36 magnuse        ah hah, so does the --output option to koha-run-backups do anything at all?
17:34 jcamins        No, koha-dump creates files in /var/spool/koha/instancename/
17:33 magnuse        http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/scripts/koha-run-backups;h=7bf39c55f0f2f03be8dd6be0ccda8b4695ffe0f9;hb=HEAD doesn't "koha-dump "$name" > /dev/null" on line 60 mean the dumps are lost in nothingness?
17:32 jcamins        I stopped using it quite a while ago because one thing it did not do was take care of my off-site backups.
17:32 jcamins        magnuse: I don't recall right now what exactly it did.
17:32 magnuse        jcamins: at least not with the --output option
17:31 jcamins        rhcl: that was the idea behind biblios.net.
17:31 rhcl           And if true, should there not be a central repo for home-brew marc records?
17:31 jcamins        rhcl: it would indeed.
17:31 magnuse        for me it doesn't do anything
17:31 jcamins        Why?
17:31 jcamins        magnuse: yeah, but I stopped using it because I wrote my own script that does more.
17:31 rhcl           so if we create a marc record, and assuming there isn't an official marc record to download, if we create one, would it not be a time-saver to share it with everybody else?
17:30 magnuse        anyone tried koha-run-backups?
17:29 rhcl           hummm
17:29 jcamins        rhcl: not to my knowledge. It's a link resolver's responsibility to deal with that.
17:29 rhcl           on a montly (or whatever periodicity) basis?
17:29 wizzyrea       oh reading fail
17:28 rhcl           Yea, but (remember, I"m not a librarian) isn't that the way e- serials are typically done now?
17:28 wizzyrea       and add your issues there?
17:28 wizzyrea       make an intermediate page and link to that
17:28 * magnuse      thinks linking to each issue would be unnecessary work...
17:28 jcamins        rhcl: I'd link to the base page. Otherwise you have to edit every month.
17:27 jcamins        Mkman: There's actually ZOOM as well as Net::Z3950::ZOOM. You need both.
17:27 wizzyrea       monthly digital serials
17:27 wizzyrea       hmmm
17:27 rhcl           OK. I didn't know if it would be better to link to the base page, or try to link each monthly publication to the actual pdf.
17:27 wizzyrea       net::z39.50::ZOOM or something
17:26 jcamins        Or at least not the Perl module.
17:26 jcamins        Mkman: you don't have ZOOM installed.
17:26 jcamins        rhcl: in all seriousness, 856$u is *designed* for that.
17:26 wizzyrea       that's how NEKLS does it
17:26 jcamins        rhcl: that's too logical? :P
17:26 rhcl           Is there a better/more logical way
17:26 rhcl           Is there any reason why the marc record shouldn't simply have a link to the webpage, like: http://www.ala.org/lita/ital/
17:25 rhcl           We don't do serials here (I donno why), but we are going to have to start putting some electronic subscriptions in Koha, and I'll have to coerce my staff into doing it.
17:25 Mkman          what seems to be the problem? http://pastebin.com/ViGGYLSF
17:24 rhcl           Quote: "LITA is pleased to announce that Information Technology and Libraries (ITAL) will become an open-access, electronic-only publication, beginning with the March 2012 issue..."
17:23 jcamins        Hello paul_p.
17:23 wizzyrea       hi paul_p
17:23 paul_p         hello #koha !
17:20 huginn         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #178 added.
17:20 wizzyrea       @quote add jcamins: IIS kills kittens
17:20 jcamins        IIS kills kittens.
17:20 jcamins        Don't use IIS.
17:20 wizzyrea       ^^
17:20 jcamins        But Koha doesn't come with the config files.
17:20 wizzyrea       it suggests apache - but you can use any old web server. (well IIS might be a challenge...)
17:20 jcamins        Mkman: you could use a different one if you'd prefer.
17:19 magnuse        hooray for kf!
17:19 jcamins        Mkman: Koha doesn't include a web server.
17:19 wizzyrea       you don't
17:19 wizzyrea       kf++ seriously, that syspref just solved a 4 year old problem
17:19 Mkman          so why do we need apache to run it?
17:18 magnuse        in fact, you will have trouble with it - Koha is currently not "mod_perl safe"
17:18 jcamins        Mkman: in fact, Koha doesn't run under mod_perl.
17:17 magnuse        Mkman: nope
17:17 Mkman          do i need to have mod_perl install to run koha?
17:14 magnuse        kia ora paul_p
17:12 jcamins        Mkman: good. :)
17:12 Mkman          yes
17:10 jcamins        Mkman: just to confirm, you did clone from git.koha-community.org, right?
17:10 wizzyrea       phew!
17:10 Mkman          i am sorry
17:10 Mkman          oow i found it
17:10 jcamins        koha_perl_deps.pl is right in the root of my git clone.
17:10 jcamins        Mkman: where did you clone from?
17:09 jcamins        wizzyrea: somewhat.
17:09 Mkman          jcamins: there is no such file in my git copy of the project
17:09 wizzyrea       i have no idea
17:09 wizzyrea       for that
17:09 wizzyrea       i wonder if solr would be easier
17:09 jcamins        Right.
17:08 wizzyrea       you mean it would be easier from authorities?
17:08 jcamins        wizzyrea: it's having something to autocomplete from that's tricky.
17:08 jcamins        Mkman: there is in Koha.
17:08 jcamins        wizzyrea: the autocomplete part isn't so hard.
17:08 Mkman          jcamins: there is no script by that name. koha_perl_deps.pl -m
17:08 jcamins        Huuuuuuuge.
17:08 jcamins        The former is much more complicated.
17:07 wizzyrea       i mean,we have something like that for patrons (granted it's a little broken at the moment)
17:06 wizzyrea       i know they can :/
17:06 Mkman          at least it compile without errors
17:06 wizzyrea       bibliographic records, for my use case
17:05 oleonard       Google can make that fast because of their huge infrastructure
17:05 jcamins        wizzyrea: I mean, do you want it to suggest terms based on bibliographic records, or based on authority records?
17:05 oleonard       :P
17:04 wizzyrea       ^^ yes
17:04 oleonard       "OPAC Instant?"
17:04 wizzyrea       "like google"
17:04 wizzyrea       keyword
17:04 oleonard       Keyword search? Returning titles?
17:04 wizzyrea       bibs - for the opac
17:03 oleonard       What would it search and what would it return?
17:03 jcamins        And, autocomplete based on authorities, biblios, or...
17:03 jcamins        wizzyrea: how big is "huge"?
17:03 wizzyrea       or "not so bad"
17:02 wizzyrea       huuuuge project or decent sized?
17:02 wizzyrea       hmm, someone just asked me about "autocomplete in the OPAC" like google instant search
17:01 jcamins        ;)
17:01 jcamins        oleonard: we don't write the marketspeak, we just repeat it for wahanui's benefit.
17:00 oleonard       "freeware?"
17:00 * jcamins      leans towards "it couldn't be worse."
16:59 wizzyrea       i lean towards "it would probably be better"
16:59 jcamins        Heh. True.
16:59 wizzyrea       we might or might not have better documentation if we did it ourselves, heh
16:59 jcamins        Mkman: you might check what Debian packages the Zebra package for Debian requires.
16:58 jcamins        Sorry, I thought you were going through the Koha dependency list.
16:58 Mkman          ehehe
16:58 jcamins        Mkman: oh, no, everyone just avoids installing Zebra manually because the instructions are incomprehensible.
16:58 wizzyrea       zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra.
16:57 magnuse        Mkman: https://www.indexdata.com/zebra
16:57 wahanui        wizzyrea: I forgot zebra
16:57 wizzyrea       forget zebra
16:57 wahanui        it has been said that zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or koha project?
16:57 jcamins        wahanui: zebra?
16:57 jcamins        Mkman: no.
16:57 wahanui        okay, Mkman.
16:57 Mkman          zebra is also koha project?
16:56 jcamins        You can get a list of what you're missing by running kohaclone/koha_perl_deps.pl -m
16:55 jcamins        Most people just use the provided installers.
16:55 jcamins        Mkman: no one's installed on Gentoo before.
16:54 Mkman          there install docs only reference incov. that is a bit ambiguos :)
16:51 jcamins        I presume that's it.
16:51 jcamins        It requires Text::Iconv.
16:51 Mkman          can you guys tell me if Zebra requires this package? http://search.cpan.org/~mpiotr/Text-Iconv-1.7/Iconv.pm
16:50 kf_mtg         ok, have to go - cya later .)
16:50 kf_mtg         hmm have to try myself :)
16:49 kf_mtg         there is also displayFacetcount
16:49 wizzyrea       the syspref helped a lot
16:49 kf_mtg         only that we don't do it like that
16:49 kf_mtg         where you store the information in the index ... but never really understood it
16:49 * wizzyrea     won't
16:49 jcamins        wizzyrea: I would encourage you not to try to track that down particular problem.
16:49 kf_mtg         I think there is a different way to do facets
16:49 wizzyrea       that makes a BIG difference thanks kf
16:49 wizzyrea       heh
16:49 kf_mtg         jcamins++ I mean...
16:49 wizzyrea       no, my librarians notice
16:49 kf_mtg         jcamins for taming the zebra :)
16:49 kf_mtg         again?
16:48 wizzyrea       kf++
16:48 jcamins        wizzyrea: it's likely that the performance issues that faceting causes are a result of us not correctly destroying results.
16:48 kf_mtg         but nobody seems to notice
16:48 kf_mtg         the facets I mean
16:48 kf_mtg         wizzyrea: and it means we have never done it right...
16:47 kf_mtg         thx :) I needed that
16:47 wizzyrea       kf++
16:47 wizzyrea       I do
16:47 wizzyrea       I love you.
16:47 wizzyrea       kf
16:47 wizzyrea       OH
16:47 wizzyrea       right, if I"m thining correctly about it you'd have to look at all of the results to get a complete picture of the facets
16:47 kf_mtg         wizzyrea: search your system preferneces for facets, Ithink it's maxRecordsForFacets
16:47 Mkman          it incov has a dependencie in the zebra but i dont know which package it is talking about
16:46 Mkman          is this incov needed http://search.cpan.org/~mpiotr/Text-Iconv-1.7/Iconv.pm ?
16:46 kf_mtg         wizzyrea: but I think in 3.6 there are options to make that better - but the price is perf
16:46 kf_mtg         wizzyrea: I think all facets work on current page only
16:45 kf_mtg         ok
16:45 kf_mtg         ah
16:45 wizzyrea       he's on gentoo
16:45 kf_mtg         you can use them to get the dependencies
16:45 wizzyrea       is there some specific limitation that makes it so that on search results, the available branches are only the ones for items displayed on that page
16:45 kf_mtg         debian.koha-community.org
16:45 kf_mtg         Mkman: have you seen the packages?
16:44 Mkman          i think in the end i will end up making a script to install it correctly
16:44 huginn         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #177 added.
16:44 wizzyrea       @quote add oleonard:  If Buck Rogers used IRC he'd put bip on Twiki and tell Twiki to never sleep.
16:43 huginn         wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:43 wizzyrea       @quote add oleonard:  If Buck Rogers used IRC he'd put bip on Twiki and tell Twiki to never sleep.
16:33 oleonard       If Buck Rogers used IRC he'd put bip on Twiki and tell Twiki to never sleep.
16:29 jcamins        Hm.
16:29 wizzyrea       all laptops.
16:28 wizzyrea       nope
16:26 jcamins        wizzyrea: really? Hm. Home computer you leave turned on?
16:25 wizzyrea       i don't actually.
16:17 jcamins        Or irssi. :P
16:17 jcamins        wizzyrea: surely you have a VPS somewhere to put bip on?
16:12 rhcl           I always wondered what bibliographic services did exactly.
16:11 reiveune       bye
16:06 Mkman          oleonard: no, i am not. i am just an Gnu/Linux enthusiastic that would love to do something to change the current situation of the market
16:03 oleonard       Mkman: Is Gnu/Linux your business?
16:02 jcamins        I have my own company providing bibliography services (cataloging, organization, etc.) to non-traditional collections.
16:02 Mkman          that nice :)
16:01 jcamins        At least, my background is in librarianship.
16:01 jcamins        Mkman: I am indeed.
16:00 Mkman          jcamins: are you a librarian?
15:59 Mkman          :)
15:58 jcamins        Mkman++
15:58 jcamins        Mkman: ah, good reason. :)
15:58 Mkman          jcamins: i think that it will motivate librarys to change their software to Gnu/Linux and OpenSource. i think small business and city deps will motivate other medium to large companys to change their software to OpenSource and Gnu/Linux
15:57 jcamins        (everyone's welcome, but it's doubly exciting to me when non-librarians are interested in Koha:)
15:55 jcamins        You said you weren't a librarian, didn't you?
15:55 jcamins        Mkman: why did you decide you wanted to work on Koha, out of curiosity?
15:54 Mkman          maximep: well i will install it today. later if you are still here i tell you :)
15:52 maximep        *koha
15:52 maximep        hmmm I might try to install zebra on my gentoo within a few weeks, so curious about how hard it is
15:51 jcamins        Mkman: a good choice for battling Zebra.
15:50 Mkman          :D
15:50 Mkman          i am watching johny english
15:50 Mkman          jcamins: i will install zebra in a few moments
15:49 jcamins        Mkman: how's the Gentoo installation going?
15:48 maximep        good morning
15:47 Mkman          Hello jcamins
15:47 jcamins        Hello again, #koha.
15:20 Mkman          yeh that sucks
15:04 jwagner        Doing pretty well, except for the remnants of a migraine :-(
15:02 Mkman          Hello jwagner How are you?
15:02 * Guest23518   imagines speck owen waving at an unseen airliner
14:58 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7422] Prevent creation of vendors with the same name <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7422> / [Bug 5877] Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5877>
14:55 jwagner        Hi Mkman
14:53 Mkman          Good Afternoon
14:24 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7433] french translation add a bad single quote into js function <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7433>
13:49 nengard        :)
13:49 nengard        there you are!
13:48 oleonard       Over Ohio nengard? Look down and you'll see me.
13:46 nengard        hiya
13:46 * magnuse      waves to nengard
13:36 nengard        it does seem that way - magic :)
13:36 jcamins        Hi nengard and oleonard.
13:34 oleonard       Magic.
13:34 nengard        hi oleonard from 30000 feet in the air :)
13:33 oleonard       Hi nengard
12:15 francharb      jcamins, cool!
12:15 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Authority matching algorithm improvements
12:15 jcamins        francharb: fredericd helped implement a UNIMARC handler for bug 7284. :)
12:06 magnus_afk     lunchtime!
11:58 Oak            hehe
11:58 kf_lunch       Oak: did you hide a camera in here?
11:58 jcamins        magnuse: good guess. ;)
11:58 magnuse        jcamins++
11:58 magnuse        does it have anything to do with plugins?
11:58 Oak            jcamins++
11:58 * Oak          hands kf_lunch cloth to clean the keyboard
11:57 * jcamins      just learned about Module::Pluggable.
11:57 jcamins        Cool!
11:56 kf_lunch       jcamins++
11:55 jcamins        :)
11:54 tcohen         jcamins++
11:52 jcamins        Thanks, I thought so, too.
11:51 magnuse        good plan ;-)
11:50 jcamins        But I was starting with less-dangerous bits.
11:50 jcamins        magnuse: ah, yes, C4::Search is pretty dangerous.
11:49 jcamins        fredericd++ # Module::Load is really cool, thanks!
11:49 magnuse        more worried about C4::Search...
11:48 jcamins        What... are you concerned that looking at Koha::Search might be dangerous? ;)
11:46 magnuse        i'll take your word for it jcamins ;-)
11:46 * magnuse      too
11:45 Oak            removed.
11:45 jcamins        You can remove one of those "actually"s.
11:44 jcamins        Though, actually, I would argue that some of that code is actually rather good.
11:44 magnuse        [off] you should buy more real estate, then ;-)
11:44 magnuse        starting_dialogue++
11:44 magnuse        hehe
11:44 jcamins        [off] That, and distract myself from worrying about buying real estate.
11:44 jcamins        My goal was to start dialogue.
11:43 jcamins        Aw, thanks.
11:43 magnuse        well, you become an instant hero for digging into that!
11:43 magnuse        s/superfluos/superfluous/
11:42 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio
11:42 jcamins        Still, your ideas were probably more practical than my bug 7430.
11:42 huginn         Oak: The operation succeeded.
11:42 Oak            @later tell Brooke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vii5ydVSNec
11:42 huginn         Oak: The operation succeeded.
11:42 Oak            @later tell cait http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vii5ydVSNec
11:42 magnuse        echo "sql" | koha-mysql instancename
11:41 magnuse        yes
11:41 jcamins        Oh, because you can pipe things in?
11:41 jcamins        Why's that?
11:41 magnuse        guess the -e thing was superfluos
11:41 magnuse        a bout of inspiration
11:40 jcamins        magnuse: lots of good suggestions for improving the packages yesterday. :)
11:38 Oak            ah cool. :) no I did not know that.
11:38 jcamins        But you may have heard that already, in which case that isn't new, either.
11:38 jcamins        Oak: we were approved by the co-op board so now we're just waiting on a lien search and to schedule closing.
11:37 Oak            same
11:36 magnuse        not much
11:34 Oak            what's new?
11:33 Oak            magnuse
11:33 magnuse        Oak
11:32 jcamins        Or that, yes.
11:31 magnuse        or we are similarly twisted... ;-)
11:31 jcamins        Guess I was wrong...
11:31 jcamins        No, I thought that first too, but decided that other people wouldn't have that knee-jerk reaction.
11:30 magnuse        probably just me being difficult...
11:30 magnuse        yeah, i was thinking more that of course it would have to be some labels in my library - i wouldn't print to the labels next door...
11:29 jcamins        magnuse: I'm not sure... my immediate response is to wonder what kind of blank labels I should be using, and, if I don't have any, which kind to buy.
11:28 jcamins        kf_lunch: I guess it depends what you're having for lunch, and whether you're sharing it with me.
11:28 magnuse        "After saving your file, simply print to the blank labels you have in your library." does that make sense?
11:28 magnuse        it gets even more quiet... ;-)
11:27 kf_lunch       it's nto that great really
11:27 kf_lunch       lol
11:26 jcamins        Exciting! I don't remember the last time I was around #koha when Europe was eating lunch.
11:25 * kf           pats myshkin good cat
11:21 magnuse        go myshkin go
11:21 magnuse        hehe
11:20 jcamins        Okay, he's had enough of being happy. He's now sitting on the back of my chair right behind my head trying to persuade me that he's in danger of starving.
11:14 magnuse        yay!
11:12 jcamins        Myshkin is having the best day *ever*. Half an hour of petting, fifteen minutes of playing, and now he gets an entire half of the bed to himself for another two hours.
11:11 jcamins        magnuse: I fell asleep before 9, so I've been up for an hour or so.
11:11 magnuse        early-bird-jcamins?
11:10 magnuse        \o
10:43 jcamins_away   o/
08:34 Oak            :)
08:33 kf             heh
08:33 asaurat        :D
08:32 Oak            A high school student wrote: "I would like to be a psychologist. I plan on taking as much psychology as possible in college and may someday emerge another Fraud." ~ M. A. C. Knuyt
08:27 Oak            joke time:
08:22 kf             hi asaurat
08:20 Oak            let's all have tea
08:19 asaurat        hi
08:19 sophie_m       hello #koha
08:19 sophie_m       Morgen kg
08:19 kf             hi sophie_m
08:17 kf             and hi magnuse :)
08:17 kf             hello Oak. :)
08:17 Oak            hello kf.
08:15 magnuse        hi kf
08:15 kf             hi #koha
07:45 magnuse        bonjour
07:45 reiveune       hello
07:44 cait           bbiab
07:21 cait           seems pretty much all we get to see is rain this year
07:20 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0�C (8:00 AM CET on January 10, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Rising).
07:20 cait           @wunder Konstanz
07:20 cait           cold
07:20 cait           ew
07:19 magnuse        no snow showers yet, but it sure felt like -12...
07:19 magnuse        guten morgen cait
07:18 cait           morning magnuse :)
07:17 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0�C (7:50 AM CET on January 10, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
07:17 magnuse        @wunder boo
07:17 magnuse        :-)
07:16 Oak            magnuse :)
07:16 magnuse        kia ora #koha!
07:16 magnuse        Oak
06:26 bag            hey cait
06:23 cait           hi bag
06:22 bag            yo AmitG
04:52 Oak            okay bbiab
04:51 Oak            yar = friend / buddy in Urdu
04:51 BobB           :)
04:51 Oak            BobB :)
04:51 cait           happy new yar BobB :)
04:51 BobB           Hi Oak
04:51 * Oak          goes out buy bread.
04:51 Oak            :o)
04:51 BobB           Hi cait
04:51 cait           hi Oak :)
04:51 BobB           Happy New Year!
04:51 cait           hi all :)
04:51 BobB           hi mtj
04:51 Oak            oye cait. how are ya!
04:50 * mtj          waves to BobB  and blahdeblah from across the ditch :)
04:26 BobB           Beach ++
04:26 blahdeblah     I can see myself knocking off at 16:45 and heading to the beach this arvo...
04:26 blahdeblah     Because it's pretty disgusting in my office right now... ;-)
04:26 BobB           I spent every summer of my youth there.  Loved it.  :)
04:26 blahdeblah     Just wondering how hot it is
04:25 blahdeblah     yep
04:25 BobB           I'm in Sydney.  Are you in Caloundra?
04:25 blahdeblah     hi BobB
04:25 BobB           hi blahdeblah
04:23 huginn         BobB: eythian was last seen in #koha 5 days, 23 hours, 39 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <eythian> hi cait
04:23 BobB           @seen eythian
04:22 huginn         BobB: rangi was last seen in #koha 1 day, 19 hours, 46 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <rangi> hi cait
04:22 BobB           @seen rangi
04:22 blahdeblah     lol
04:21 huginn         blahdeblah: The current temperature in Pelican Waters, Queensland is 32.1�C (2:21 PM EST on January 10, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady).
04:21 blahdeblah     @wunder caloundra
04:06 huginn         Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 3.0�C (9:00 AM PKT on January 10, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
04:06 Oak            @wunder islamabad
04:06 Oak            #wunder islamabad
04:06 Oak            kia ora #koha
03:56 AmitG          heya bag
03:55 AmitG          heyabag
02:25 wizzyrea       keke
02:24 libsysguy      spring all year for libsysguy hahaha
02:24 wizzyrea       ifyouknowwhati'msayingandithinkthatyoudo
02:24 libsysguy      haha
02:24 wizzyrea       we call that "spring fever"
02:24 wizzyrea       no, sweetie, that was a good time for something *else*
02:22 libsysguy      well 9 months ago anyway :p
02:22 wizzyrea       good day for babies I guess :D
02:22 libsysguy      wow…how bout that
02:21 wizzyrea       yep :)
02:21 libsysguy      really??
02:21 wizzyrea       and paul_p
02:20 libsysguy      apparently its bag birthday today too
02:20 libsysguy      thanks wizzy
02:20 wizzyrea       happy birthday, btw.
02:19 wizzyrea       ding!
02:18 libsysguy      Mod Mode
02:18 libsysguy      wizzyrea levels up
01:04 blahdeblah     OK, found this thread on the mailing list. http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Unimarc-vs-Marc21-td3071490.html  That pretty much answers my question.
00:52 blahdeblah     Now for the next question: how does one decide whether Unimarc or Marc21 is needed.  This is just a test install, and i'm not enough of a library nerd to know the difference.  What are the pros & cons?
00:52 blahdeblah     The problem was that apache-shared-disable.conf was enabled in the koha virtual host.  I'm not sure whether that was my fault or the installer's, but it's fixed now.  Once i worked out that i needed the database username & password for the web login, i was able to proceed with the installer.
00:37 blahdeblah     It's as if the installer doesn't know that it needs to run.
00:35 blahdeblah     But no error messages about why Koha is unavailable.
00:35 blahdeblah     ... shows requests for / coming in.
00:35 blahdeblah     /var/log/koha/test/intranet-access_log shows
00:34 blahdeblah     It's not DNS - i've double-checked that my entries are pointing to the right place.  Anyone else got any suggestions?
00:33 blahdeblah     jcamins_away: It *is* during the day EST. Don't be hemispherist.  :-P
00:31 jcamins_away   If you're back tomorrow during the day (EST), I could actually be useful. :)
00:31 jcamins_away   Good luck!
00:30 jcamins        blahdeblah: check your apache config. I suspect DNS issue.
00:30 blahdeblah     But it gives exactly the same thing
00:30 jcamins        blahdeblah: not sure, and I'm just shutting down for dinner.
00:30 blahdeblah     Yeah, in my case it's servername-intra
00:30 jcamins        Or whatever you chose for the INTRASUFFIX/INTRAPREFIX.
00:30 blahdeblah     doesn't do anything either
00:30 jcamins        blahdeblah: intra-servername
00:24 blahdeblah     http://servername/ on my new koha virtual host gives "Sorry!  The Koha site you are trying to access is currently unavailable, probably because of maintenance. This is not at all your fault, and we apologize for any inconvenience the downtime may cause you. Please check back in a while.  We hope to get things back up soon."
00:21 blahdeblah     Next step in the install doc is "Browse to http://servername:8080/ and answer the questions", but there's no port 8080 if you follow the Debian install instructions.
00:19 blahdeblah     Nothing in the README.Debian, either
00:18 blahdeblah     Hmmm... Now where to next? The install document seems to trail off into irrelevancies like lenny support.
00:15 jcamins        blahdeblah++
00:15 jcamins        blahdeblah: awesome!
00:14 blahdeblah     jcamins: I've created http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Install_Koha_3.6_on_Debian_squeeze_using_a_separate_MySQL_server - it's rough, but it should do for starters.