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23:58 wizzyrea "orcas kicked their arse"
23:42 rangi orcas kicked their arse
23:41 rangi yep
23:41 rhcl saw the reporting on whales vs sharks
23:41 rangi the orca vs shark thing?
23:41 rangi near tuatapere
23:41 rangi bottom of the south island
23:40 rhcl rangi: are you anywhere near Blue Cliffs Beach, or is that south island
23:35 trea-away ok bye
23:35 trea-away :P
23:35 trea-away hey, i resemble that remark
23:27 rangi trea runs away at the idea of cataloguing
23:26 rangi and magnuse can put up some rdf tuple, or triple or something too :)
23:25 rangi so people can add the newsletter to their catalogue easily
23:25 rangi and update it with each one, to add a new item, (the item having the url to it in it)
23:24 rangi we should put a unimarc, marc21 and normarc record of the newsletter up
23:24 rangi i had an idea
22:59 rangi hehe you shoulda submitted one :)
22:58 bag what no picture of Aloo?
22:52 rangi http://cuteoverload.com/2011/12/31/top-ten-cutest-photos-of-2011/
22:49 bag yeah I've done worse like - This is my password world - please hack my email :D
22:48 bag oh rangi it looks like I've got you beat for todays temp :)
22:48 rangi ive seen far worse
22:48 bag heh wrong window fail ;)
22:47 rangi heh :)
22:47 bag hi #koha :)
22:47 bag sekjal: you can answer me in a PM :)
22:47 bag sekjal where you able to work out a time for ago43 to come visit?
22:45 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 04, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
22:45 rangi @wunder nzwn
22:44 huginn bag: The current temperature in SOMA - Near Van Ness, San Francisco, California is 16.9�C (2:44 PM PST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Steady).
22:44 bag @wunder 94102
22:44 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 22.8�C (2:43 PM PST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Steady).
22:44 bag @wunder 93109
22:32 cait nice to now :)
22:31 * wizzyrea becomes a time traveler
22:30 ebegin :)
22:30 wizzyrea a negative period does in fact work as you would expect, and makes the item due in the past.
22:30 wizzyrea just in case you were wondering
22:30 wizzyrea it would indeed.
22:30 wizzyrea :D
22:30 ebegin I think that dec, 31th, 9999 should do the job for a while :)
22:29 ebegin in a another system, NEVER is a choice for the date due
22:29 wizzyrea well you could set a hard due date out like 99zillion years
22:28 * wizzyrea wonders what a negative period would do
22:28 sekjal I've always wanted to use Koha for an independent video store (not that there are many left)
22:28 wizzyrea hmm
22:28 sekjal so we could handle not only libraries, but retail establishments as well
22:27 sekjal if we could get permanent loans to work, we'd have a mechanism for making sales
22:27 wahanui interesting is good
22:27 sekjal ebegin: interesting...
22:27 wizzyrea I just did it and it set a rule with 0 as the period - let me see what that does
22:26 wizzyrea ebgin: I have never tried it, but can you set a circ rule without a period?
22:24 ebegin I never saw a way to do a permanent loan. It that possible ? other than setting the return date way far in the future)
21:53 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
21:53 jcamins @later tell paul_p Which branch should I be looking at for the solr development? dev/solr, wip/solr, or something else entirely?
21:53 patric thanks again everybody, works peachy
21:53 jcamins I wonder why he didn't get my @later.
21:53 jcamins Darn. Missed him.
21:50 jcamins ;)
21:50 jcamins eythian: leaves a fellow baffled.
21:50 eythian oh ah
21:50 jcamins eythian: there are a whole bunch of solr branches.
21:50 eythian *git
21:49 eythian jcamins: bit branch -a | grep solr ?
21:49 jcamins dev/solr wip/solr or something else?
21:48 jcamins Which branch for the solr code?
21:48 cait plain
21:48 cait I am using an editor
21:48 jcamins paul_p: wait! If you haven't left yet, I have a quick question!
21:48 jcamins eythian++
21:47 eythian e.g. vim
21:46 patric There are decent html editors out there, just because word's a flaming pile doesn't mean you need to avoid all of them.
21:46 cait color:windowtext
21:46 cait but it's impossible to get even simple things like the font color from the code
21:46 cait I am almost there
21:46 cait it's ok
21:45 eythian cait: I'd wonder if it were easier to use something like catdoc to do it for you (although, it won't give you HTML)
21:44 melia thank you, paul_p!
21:44 paul_p (melia, just QAed 6488 !)
21:44 paul_p bye world, i'm heading to bed
21:41 cait trying to rewrite html generated with word into real html... word--
21:39 patric I feel so at home here.
21:23 libsysguy but i was hoping i could be lazy
21:23 libsysguy i guess i could just select the parent then the sub element
21:23 jcamins Part of XHTML2.
21:23 jcamins Never heard of it.
21:23 jcamins Huh.
21:23 libsysguy yeah drupal uses them a lot
21:23 jcamins That doesn't seem right.
21:22 jcamins libsysguy: property?
21:22 * libsysguy curses drupals dynamic generation
21:22 rangi but thats my answer to everything
21:22 rangi libsysguy: id give it an id
21:22 libsysguy how do i select that with css
21:22 libsysguy ok random question if i have <span property="dc:title">
21:21 rangi lol
21:21 jcamins patric: in 16 words, rangi summarized the entirety of library technology.
21:21 rangi patric: koha is something we hacked together in 3 months to solve a y2k issue ... ;)
21:21 huginn jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
21:21 jcamins @quote get 123
21:20 jcamins eythian: awesome!
21:20 rangi and IT related to library science is even more so :)
21:20 rangi library science is the kingdom of hacks :)
21:20 rangi patric: tell you a secret
21:19 cait lol
21:18 patric It looks all professional and stuff, not all like I hacked it together (shhh!)
21:18 patric Happiness!!
21:17 eythian same to you :D
21:16 eythian hallo cait
21:16 cait happy new year!
21:16 cait heya eythian :)
21:15 rangi hehe
21:12 eythian http://thehairpin.com/2011/09/fake-books-i-asked-librarians-for
21:00 cait you will perhaps have to change some other fields too from the copy you showed earlier
20:59 cait :)
20:57 patric btw, help in here seems to be top notch, thanks again
20:57 patric waiting for the new import (with 245$a entries) to index
20:28 * magnus_afk wanders off again
20:24 magnus_afk things are lining up neatly?
20:23 jcamins :)
20:23 cait now jcamins is really here for one time and magnuse is waving while afk ;)
20:22 * magnus_afk waves
20:22 * liw now feels he can stay for another little while on the channel
20:22 cait liw++
20:22 liw cait, no problem, glad to be of help
20:22 cait hm investigate
20:21 rangi now it makes sense
20:21 cait liw: thx for your help :) I think I will investiage what you can do using thunderbird and outlook
20:21 rangi liw: ahhh *click*
20:21 * jcamins never heard of Mel Kaye before.
20:21 wahanui interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good
20:21 jcamins Interesting.
20:20 liw rangi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Kaye
20:19 liw jcamins, I have nothing against butterflies, though I now have a vision of a series of romance novels of a vampire butterfly
20:18 jcamins Got it, never mind.
20:18 wizzyrea i'm pretty sure I did once accidentally
20:18 cait hm perhaps by accident answering one
20:18 cait I never wrote a html mail all my life I think :)
20:18 liw cait, I haven't used the HTML formatting bit of Thuderbird, but I know it's there
20:18 wahanui i guess git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
20:18 cait git?
20:18 jcamins Help! How do I cancel a merge that went horribly wrong?
20:17 cait the paper bit irritated me a bit :)
20:17 liw cait, and some people still generate paper newsletters and send them by post, even if it's getting rarer, and since I happen to know about those, I thought I'd ask
20:17 cait I think what I need to do is create a template for him to use with thunderbird or outlook
20:16 cait thx :)
20:16 liw cait, I'm asking a lot of questions because I want to narrow down the search space to be able to provide a useful answer
20:16 cait and it's about creating the mail, some wysiwyg
20:16 cait I guess I am going to suggest that
20:16 liw cait, do you need a tool to create the html content, or mailing list software to do the actual sending? is something like Thunderbird's HTML formatting suitable?
20:15 jcamins liw: what do you have against butterflies?
20:14 * cait peeks out
20:14 liw cait, I'm not teasing -- sorry
20:14 * cait goes to hide somewhere in bugzilla
20:14 cait and I think you are teasing me finishing reading your questions... *sigh*
20:14 cait from what I got told html mail, because it should hav eformatting, pictures and things... and via mail to customers
20:14 rangi liw: ahh :-)
20:13 liw cait, can you expand on what kind of newsletter, what format it should be sent out as, and what medium it should be sent out as? e.g., does it get sent via e-mail, or is it on a web page? or perhaps printed on paper and sent by post?
20:12 liw rangi, no, a knee-jerk reaction to the words "real programmer"
20:11 rangi liw: was mel a suggestion for cait ?
20:10 jcamins PHP List?
20:09 jcamins Ah. Hrm.
20:09 cait i could
20:09 cait the person asking about it has problems with that
20:09 jcamins cait: however, can't you just use a basic HTML editor?
20:08 cait cookies in the shape of butterflies?
20:08 jcamins cait: aww, butterflies are always a good idea.
20:08 cait jcamins: no teasing please, it's not for me
20:08 wahanui You should check out http://xkcd.com/378/
20:08 jcamins real programmers?
20:07 wahanui OK, jcamins.
20:07 jcamins wahanui: real programmers is <reply> You should check out http://xkcd.com/378/
20:07 liw Mel
20:07 jcamins real programmers?
20:07 jcamins *butterfly
20:07 jcamins cait: a butterly?
20:06 cait anyone an idea?
20:05 cait html mails with some formatting, pictures etc.
20:05 cait I am looking for a software to create a newsletter
20:05 cait hm
20:04 wizzyrea and that shirt.
20:03 wizzyrea hm true
20:03 jcamins wizzyrea: with that hair, I think you could be forgiven for the error.
20:03 wizzyrea oh sorry 80's
20:02 oleonard Did people in the 70's really not know that chocolate and peanut butter went well together? I seriously wonder about that.
20:01 patric tyvm for the undo import
20:01 patric btw, initial diagnosis was entirely correct, didn't have a 245$a, had it under 130$a
20:01 jcamins oleonard: exactly.
20:00 wizzyrea how very 70's of you
19:59 oleonard Oh sorry, I guess I was the one with the chocolate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJLDF6qZUX0
19:59 wizzyrea You got your peanut butter on my chocolate!
19:58 oleonard The chocolate bar fell right into the peanut butter, and I was all "You got chocolate in my peanut butter!" I was so angry.
19:57 oleonard jcamins: Like that time I was walking with an open jar of peanut butter, and ran into that cute girl carrying an oversized chocolate bar?
19:52 jcamins A cooking disaster leads to delicious cookies.
19:52 jcamins *cookies
19:51 jcamins I love it when a cooking disaster leads to delicious cooking.
19:47 cait on the manage staded marc records page
19:47 nengard thanks all
19:46 cait patric: and you can get the wrong records out of your system easily by undoing the import
19:46 rangi nengard: the way to call it is in that crontab.example file
19:46 cait do you want to dump your entire database or only the records?
19:46 patric how can I dump my catalog?
19:45 nengard yes that's the one
19:45 jwagner You mean to build the holds queue? kohaclone/misc/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl
19:44 rangi look at misc/cronjobs/crontab.example
19:44 nengard i'm in the kohaclone directory
19:43 nengard what's the command i should type to get the holds queue to populate on my test server?
19:42 libsysguy sorry I had to step away
19:42 libsysguy cait no seperate templates
19:39 wizzyrea Ninjas!
19:39 rangi pirates!
19:39 wizzyrea hi there
19:39 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE!
19:39 rangi hey wizzyrea
19:34 patric Is there a quick way to flush those records, they look useless, I'm planning to go back to marcedit and recreate them
19:33 patric I used marcedit and a text export from our old system to generate those records
19:16 rangi :)
19:16 jcamins I meant "fix" as in what one does to pets.
19:15 jcamins rangi: that's what I meant.
19:12 * cait waves at chrisdothall
19:12 cait libsysguy: both links are to the same template with same parameters?
19:12 rangi no he's sitting right next to me
19:12 cait is he gone too?
19:12 ibeardslee he did, probably should have bugged him about it
19:11 rangi ibeardslee: ahh hmm did chrisdothall take the photos?
19:11 rangi jcamins: theres no fixing, there's only building Koha::Search :)
19:10 cait where did you get the records from?
19:10 patric checking mapping
19:09 ibeardslee rangi: no I didn't, didn't get them .. and probably should have got one yesterday while the laptops disks were being wiped
19:09 jcamins Much worse.
19:09 jcamins I agree with cait. Changing the mapping will just make things worse.
19:09 jcamins rangi: if you decide you do want to kill someone with Koha, have them fix C4::Search. :P
19:09 cait recommend
19:09 cait I would not recomment changing the mappings - and it wll probably not help your display problem
19:08 patric That's what I think
19:08 cait it looks like they don't have a 245$a = title
19:08 cait and your records are marc21 too?
19:08 cait are you using marc21?
19:08 cait you shouldn't have to change the mappings
19:08 pastebot "patric" at 68.98.203.253 pasted "results of a search for "a" in catalog" (180 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/183
19:08 cait hm no it shouldn't
19:07 patric it is now populated, with records that don't make sense, I assume that's a marc to koha mapping thing
19:04 rangi ibeardslee: did you ever put up the photos of the academy set up?
19:04 jcamins Heh.
19:04 cait heh
19:03 rangi the unit tests didnt break him, so he got hired :)
19:03 cait oh
19:03 cait ts.
19:03 rangi full time employee
19:03 cait and to drupal
19:03 cait I was wondeirng
19:03 rangi (duncan is now on the drupal team)
19:03 cait oh
19:02 patric zebra logs are empty
19:02 rangi done=down
19:02 rangi duncan got stolen actually, im done to 1, chrisdothall
19:02 jcamins (them, in this case, being rangi's interns;)
19:02 rangi yep
19:01 jcamins rangi: and it'd be one less thing in C4.
19:01 jcamins rangi: that'd be pretty easy, actually, I think.
19:01 rangi maybe february
19:01 * jcamins doesn't have any interns, so he has to delegate to them.
19:01 rangi but actually no, that wouldnt be so bad
19:01 rangi i want to train them, not kill them :)
19:01 rangi heh
19:00 cait heh
19:00 jcamins rangi: you should get one of your interns to turn C4::XSLT into a T::T plugin.
18:58 libsysguy but if you just search from the main page you get that template error
18:58 libsysguy if you do the search from the circulation section you don't get the error
18:58 libsysguy i found something interesting
18:58 cait oh yes
18:58 libsysguy remember that problem I was having earlier
18:58 cait but about your git question... better ask rangi :)
18:58 libsysguy hey cait :)
18:58 cait I am here libsysguy
18:57 wahanui kf was last seen on #koha 1 hours, 52 minutes and 42 seconds ago, saying: sekjal: I think I have no helpful ideas :( [Tue Jan 3 17:04:45 2012]
18:57 libsysguy seen kf
18:57 rangi skushner: in master i dont have call to config on line 654
18:56 rangi it might still be running
18:56 rangi it should be populated now, it shouldnt need zebrasrv to reindex, but do a ps axf | grep "rebuild"
18:56 libsysguy ok so i know how to reset a single file via git but what if I wanted to reset all the .po files
18:56 skushner git 3.04.00
18:56 * jcamins goes to make cookies.
18:55 jcamins (2:00, 1:50, whatever... it depends what time your server thinks it is;)
18:55 jcamins patric: it should be populated after the next time you pass a ten minute mark.
18:54 rangi what version of Koha skushner ?
18:54 rangi hmm
18:53 skushner Still getting this error...anyone else have this problem? thanks. Hi..I'm getting the error "Koha error: The following fatal error has occurred: Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 654. . anyone seen this. It's when I'm trying to install Koha using http://xxx.xxx.x.xx:8080..
18:53 patric so, wait ten minutes, and see if my catalog's populated?
18:52 patric was about to start blindly restarting things until it did something different
18:52 patric thanks much
18:52 rangi should be all good from now though
18:51 jcamins patric: not sure why, but it wasn't running.
18:51 jcamins patric: you didn't have Zebra running.
18:51 skushner No, Owen..that wasn't it.
18:51 pastebot "patric" at 68.98.203.253 pasted "output of restart of koha-common" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/182
18:50 rangi will make sure zebrasrv is running
18:50 rangi sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common restart
18:49 rangi just for kicks try this
18:49 rangi /etc/cron.d/koha-common is where the indexing lives
18:49 patric Yes, it's status is now imported
18:48 rangi and you completed it eh? (did the import bit .. i always ask the simple questions)
18:48 patric stage
18:47 rangi you did the stage marc import, or uses bulkmarcimport.pl?
18:46 cait listen to him he knows ^^ :)
18:45 jcamins Every ten minutes.
18:45 jcamins patric: it should be indexing.
18:45 cait you might need to run another command to activate indexing
18:45 cait ah
18:45 patric no, used the debian package, and koha-create, which was supposed to do that for me, checking crontab now
18:44 cait did you set up the cronjobs for indexing?
18:41 patric log indicates that records were imported, search shows no results
18:41 patric imported marc data, koha seems to think my catalog's empty
18:39 cait 'what's the next step?'
18:39 cait like when oyu have that big task you don't know where to start and keep delaying it
18:39 cait having a next step list is really useful
18:38 jcamins cait: I don't imagine I'll follow all of it, but I'm trying to do as much as I can.
18:38 rangi my stop bbiab
18:33 cait jcamins: gtd is not bad, although I don't follow it all
18:33 rangi I hope to do some follow ups for it when I get a chance
18:33 jcamins And "Sign off on cait's patch"
18:32 jcamins Like "drop sekjal a note about QAing my bugs."
18:32 rangi yay!
18:32 sekjal 7394 passed QA
18:32 jcamins I'm trying to implement GTD, and to reinforce the habit, I've identified lots of easy tasks.
18:32 cait lol
18:31 jcamins Yes, I put it on my to-do list starting yesterday.
18:31 sekjal a while, for sure
18:31 rangi jcamins: cool :)
18:31 sekjal not sure when the next will be
18:31 sekjal was just on vacation
18:31 jcamins (when you get back)
18:31 jcamins sekjal: so if you go on vacation, you'll get a lot of messages from huginn about it. ;)
18:30 sekjal jcamins: I was wondering...
18:30 jcamins sekjal: in case you hadn't guessed, that's on my "daily tasks" list. ;)
18:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
18:29 * jcamins bugs sekjal about QAing bug 1633, and crosses that item off his to-do list for today. :)
18:27 sekjal cait: was looking at it this morning, but got distracted before i could git bz it down
18:27 jcamins rangi: you'll be glad to know that eventually I figured out OO Perl.
18:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7394 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , Broken detail page for last link from result page
18:27 cait bug 7394
18:26 cait could I ask you nicely to qa on the bug from yesterday? :)
18:26 cait hi sekjal :)
18:25 cait morning rangi :)
18:25 jcamins Good morning, rangi.
18:25 jcamins Yeah, I see he left 50 minutes ago.
18:24 rangi heya sekjal
18:24 jcamins It's too late for paul_p, isn't it?
18:24 sekjal morning, rangi
18:23 rangi morning
18:03 jwagner and to you too
18:02 cait hi jwagner - happy new year
18:00 jwagner hi cait
17:56 cait hi again #koha
17:10 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7399] Holds Queue should show reserve notes <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7399>
17:10 gaetan_B bye !
17:05 sekjal I'll just make the note show on the far right of the Holds Queue table
17:05 kf sekjal: I think I have no helpful ideas :(
17:03 hdl1 ok have fun folks
17:03 kf reservenotes in reserves and notes in tmp_holdsqueue
17:02 kf oh we have
17:02 kf why don't we have a note field in reserves?
17:02 kf hm
17:01 sekjal view_holdsqueue.pl
17:01 kf and on which page? the holds view on the record? or one of the reports?
17:01 sekjal it's processed into the tmp_holdsqueue table, but not displayed
17:01 kf ah
17:01 sekjal kf: the hold note
17:00 kf sekjal: what would the note be for?
17:00 kf happy new year hdl :)
16:57 jcamins Happy new year!
16:57 hdl1 hi happy new year
16:53 sekjal opinion on where to add a Notes column to the Holds Queue? I was thinking at the end, but does anyone have a different idea?
16:30 clrh :)
16:24 gaetan_B oops wrong channel :-X:-/
16:24 gaetan_B ça vient de Babelio à priori ?
16:24 gaetan_B clrh: je viens de voir ça datant du 29/12 : http://mantis.biblibre.com/view.php?id=8606
16:22 nengard what is the script you have to run to generate the borrowers file for the offline circ tool? I just noticed that it's not documented in the manual!
16:21 libsysguy ok well mine were set to null
16:21 kf do you mean flags? because that's permissions and 0 probably right
16:21 kf I think that's only for debarred
16:20 asaurat bye !
16:20 libsysguy where there was a patch to set something to NULL
16:19 libsysguy is this that weird error that happened a while back with flags in the database
16:19 libsysguy the broken patron has a 0 flag set
16:18 libsysguy they got an email notice and they are disputing it so I was going to look them up
16:17 libsysguy well the other patron was me and I don't have any holds but i think the other patron does
16:17 kf does oone have holds and the other not?
16:17 kf hm the line refers to somehting with holds
16:17 libsysguy i don't see anything weird
16:16 libsysguy yeah i just looked up the broken patron in the database
16:16 kf I mean the borrowers
16:14 kf something in the data of those 2 must be different
16:12 libsysguy kf would that explain why I can look up some names and not others?
16:09 kf yep, fun watching :)
16:09 gaetan_B there's been some teamwork going on today :)
16:09 asaurat :)
16:09 kf libsysguy, oleonard: could the error be caused by the pl file not matching the template file?
16:09 gaetan_B :)
16:09 tcohen thanks kf
16:08 kf gaetan_B++ asaurat++
16:07 libsysguy if you want to take a peek at it
16:07 libsysguy but i can certainly paste the file
16:07 libsysguy so it should look just like master
16:07 libsysguy well I just ran a git checkout HEAD moremember.tt
16:07 oleonard libsysguy: It would be easy to see if your copy of the template was corrupt for whatever reason if you pasted its contents
16:06 kf tcohen: if git bz apply does not work it's always got to do a git am -i3u file <file in temp folder it created>
16:06 libsysguy what do you mean oleonard
16:05 reiveune bye
16:05 oleonard libsysguy: What does the template in question look like?
16:04 tcohen (to the author)
16:04 tcohen and continuing the old way to propose a fix
16:04 tcohen ok, i marked the bug does not apply
16:04 kf tcohen: git bz does no 3 way merge when applying and it doesn't deal with conflicts (only working with bugzilla)
16:04 libsysguy this may have been happening for awhile and i just now noticed :p
16:03 libsysguy kf it may not be your fault
16:03 kf (and I forgot what I have to do now... again)
16:03 ebegin :)
16:03 nengard :)
16:02 nengard jinx
16:02 nengard there is a bug report on that
16:02 kf ebegin: no, but there is a bug for it
16:02 nengard ebegin there is not
16:02 tcohen any git-bz guru?
16:02 ebegin reading the emails on the koha list, I was wondering if there is a way to prevents patrons to create public lists ?
16:02 libsysguy hehe
16:01 kf I am confessing to have touched it... willingly!
16:01 tcohen or have to go the git -3 way only?
16:01 libsysguy so kf i can do a git blame :p jk jk
16:01 tcohen is it possible to try to merge and solve problems in the merge using git-bz?
16:00 libsysguy pastebot hates me
16:00 libsysguy http://paste.koha-community.org/181?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21
16:00 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=history;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/moremember.tt;h=178529245e1d3b12c27b1cdca9a3d6b7b7f712f2;hb=1730e180cdbe11a7878ddfab54cec7291d12f430
15:59 oleonard libsysguy: can you paste the whole error? http://paste.koha-community.org/
15:59 kf I was the last to change that file...
15:59 libsysguy so maybe it is a translation thing
15:59 kf sadly
15:59 kf ok
15:59 libsysguy but when i look up travis its ok
15:59 libsysguy it looks like when i look up the name ABHIDNYA GHUGE i get an error
15:59 kf so it's the account detail tab?
15:59 edveal oleonard: Thanks
15:58 wahanui interesting is, like, good
15:58 libsysguy ok interesting
15:58 libsysguy hmm
15:58 kf because that's ususally my problem
15:58 kf at :) a translated file
15:58 libsysguy no I don't think im looking for a translation kf
15:58 libsysguy i just checked that file out from master
15:57 kf not looking at a translation?
15:57 oleonard edveal: I think at that time it may have been decided that a generic "item lost" was sufficient in the OPAC, I'm not sure. If so, I'm not sure the "OPAC description" option was taken into consideration
15:57 kf no local changes?
15:57 wahanui it has been said that master is for 3.6
15:57 kf master?
15:57 kf hm not good
15:57 libsysguy unexpected end of input in Templates.pm :-/
15:56 libsysguy Template process failed: file error - parse error
15:56 edveal oleonard: doesn't look like it has been addressed in a while? Might you have any insight on it resolution?
15:56 kf waht happens?
15:56 kf hm
15:55 libsysguy anybody else see it?
15:55 libsysguy i did an update this morning and I get an error in /koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/moremember.tt
15:54 libsysguy morning #Koha
15:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4173 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Statuses not appearing in the OPAC
15:53 oleonard edveal: Bug 4173?
15:51 kf trying it out with an easy example will show :)
15:51 kf not sure
15:51 kf and I think you might need distinct (.... ) or disctint, distinct...
15:49 magnuse i'd say "distinct borrowernumber/issuedate combos" - but i'd experiment a little before i made up my mind... ;-)
15:49 magnuse "DISTINCT specifies removal of duplicate rows from the result set." http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/select.html
15:48 kf perhaps you need ()
15:48 kf out
15:48 kf Iw ould try it
15:47 kf hm not sure
15:42 nengard question about SELECT DISTINCT - is it selecting distinct versions of all fields queried? So if I do SELECT DISTINCT borrowernumber, issuedate is it getting only distinct borrowernumber/issuedate combos? or only distict borrowerumbers?
15:37 skushner magnuse: git 3.04.00
15:37 edveal I have duplicated this on at least two instances of Koha.
15:36 edveal No I am not sure... Whenever I put something in the "Description (OPAC)" field it does not showing in the OPAC.
15:35 oleonard edveal: Are you sure it's a new bug rather than an omission? Where do you see the problem?
15:33 huginn 04Bug 5533: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , marking item lost diff in two places
15:33 edveal Good morning everyone! I am working with the "Authorized Values" for lost and it seems that the "Description (OPAC)" field is being ignored in the OPAC. Anyone else seeing this or have any insight on it. I think it is connected to http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5533
15:33 magnuse skushner: which version are you installing?
15:31 oleonard skushner: I see an old Koha list thread which references the same error. Maybe one of the replies is relevant? http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2010-January/022164.html
15:29 skushner I think it might have something to do with a password for mysql db..but not sure.
15:28 skushner Hi..I'm getting the error "Koha error: The following fatal error has occurred: Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 654. . anyone seen this. It's when I'm trying to install Koha using http://xxx.xxx.x.xx:8080..thanks, and happy new year...
15:15 magnuse ooh, clever ;-)
15:14 mbalmer good {eve|mor}ning
14:39 schuster Glad someone understood it! Rangi posted it originally! I read cache blah blah blah some code blah blah blah cache....
14:38 jcamins_away schuster: interesting article.
14:36 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6374] Use "size" as names/hash keys leads to an unexpected results when using Template::Toolkit (name of a virtual method there) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6374>
14:25 magnuse lol
14:25 schuster I understand! Good luck - I have some peppermint in the freezer at home... Boys made me do it!
14:25 oleonard Later rescheduled and switched to "Oh no, I ate all the ice cream" day
14:23 oleonard Today is "Hooray, I didn't eat any ice cream yet" day.
14:23 schuster Hey oleonard! Happy New Year make it to the Gym or is today the "allow body to rebuild day?"
14:22 oleonard Hi schuster
14:22 schuster just read this from the read back from Rangi - http://perladvent.org/2011/2011-12-22.html and am glad there are others smarter than me who understand what he was talking about :)
14:19 huginn schuster: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is -7.0�C (7:56 AM CST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
14:19 schuster @wunder Sioux Falls SD
14:19 schuster remembers cold - degree days - glad he now lives in Texas!
14:18 huginn schuster: The current temperature in Preston Lakes, Frisco, Texas is 2.8�C (8:17 AM CST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.58 in 1035.4 hPa (Rising).
14:18 schuster @wunder 75035
13:56 magnuse muni: which OS are you installing on, and how are you doing the installation (which instructions are you following)?
13:51 muni can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC
13:45 oleonard Which ones muni?
13:45 muni Missing some perl dependencies
13:43 magnuse muni: depends on what the problem is ;-)
13:43 muni How can i fix this problem?
13:42 muni Hello, I face a problem during koha installation with perl dependencies.
13:36 magnuse :-)
13:35 * druthb shivers, and hunkers down under her blanket.
13:35 magnuse nort of the arctic circle, akshuly ;-)
13:28 kf :)
13:28 kf hi oleonard
13:23 druthb g'morning, oleonard.
13:23 oleonard Hi #koha
13:22 druthb that ain't right, now.
13:22 huginn kf1: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0�C (2:00 PM CET on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
13:22 kf1 @wunder Konstanz
13:21 druthb wait...it's colder in Lawrence, KS, than it is near the Arctic Circle?
13:21 * druthb screeches to a halt.
13:21 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -4.6�C (7:20 AM CST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.41 in 1029.7 hPa (Falling).
13:21 druthb @wunder lawrence, ks
13:20 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (1:50 PM CET on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985 hPa (Steady).
13:20 magnuse @wunder boo
13:09 druthb :D
13:09 kf1 hi druthb
13:04 magnuse \o
12:48 druthb o/
12:33 tcohen hi #koha
11:24 asaurat kf++
11:24 asaurat nice :)
11:23 kf let's find out :)
11:23 kf asaurat: ok,I have done it
11:08 magnuse the more the merrier!
11:07 asaurat yes, should be present
11:07 kf are you going to be at the meeting? it's a good time for europe tomorrow
11:06 kf we will find out :)
11:06 kf not sure you have to )
11:06 asaurat ok, not used to this kind of thinking :D I'll learn
11:04 kf :)
11:04 kf hi hdl
11:04 kf git blame will blame you for the lines, even if it's only whitespace changes
11:04 kf i think one reason not to fix indentationmight be copyright?
11:03 kf fixing a few more lines than strictly necessary hereand there
11:03 kf I think we all kind of sneak around that
11:03 kf yes
11:03 asaurat coding guidelines, and patching limits :D should a patch fix only what the title implies, or do more if possible ?
11:01 kf perhaps we can add : coding guidelines?
10:58 kf we can stil add to the agenda
10:58 kf nope
10:58 asaurat could be a topic for tomorrow ? or are they all already decided ?
10:56 asaurat yes!
10:55 kf asaurat ping :)
10:55 kf so perhaps this is really something that we should discuss and decide about
10:55 kf but not sure we finally decided when to use it and on what parts of the code - only new, everything etc.
10:55 kf we decided to use perltidy I think
10:54 kf the bugzilla diff view is quite helpful
10:54 kf was commenting on the bug again right now :)
10:54 kf ah
10:53 asaurat kf: tried to give hints about what changed, but without the patch formatting I'm not sure it's useful :p
10:33 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7379] some database fields are displayed 'as is' when they are linked to autorised values <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7379>
09:58 * kf_mtg nick kf
09:38 * magnuse too
09:37 * kf will be there
09:37 kf heh
09:35 paul_p magnuse, right
09:33 magnuse meeting in ~24.5 hours, right?
09:17 rangi could be, ill have to look at his calibre next time im there :)
09:16 asaurat Le mystère de la chambre jaune ? =)
09:16 asaurat nice :)
09:12 rangi paul_p: my dad is reading some french detective novels in french, its what he decided to buy himself for xmas
09:01 gaetan_B :)
09:00 AmitG :D
09:00 AmitG gaetan_B: aap ko bhi
08:59 gaetan_B hi AmitG! naya saal mubarak ho!
08:58 AmitG happy new year
08:58 AmitG gaetan_B
08:35 rangi hi francharb
08:34 kf hi francharb :)
08:30 francharb hello
08:24 paul_p & good night !
08:24 paul_p happy new year rangi
08:24 rangi bye too
08:24 rangi hi paul_p by sophie
08:23 kf hello sophie_m1 - happy new year:)
08:23 sophie_m1 and happy new year every one
08:23 sophie_m1 hello magnuse, happy new year !
08:22 magnuse hiya sophie_m1 and paul_p
08:22 kf morning paul_p
08:22 kf then
08:22 kf I think than the version number should be changed
08:22 paul_p good morning world
08:22 kf hm
08:21 julian_m kf, hm... I don't know, i just updated patch status as it still apply
08:19 kf julian_m: do you think it's still relevant for master?
08:19 asaurat hi rangi, kf and gaetan_B!
08:19 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6145] ModBiblio double encoding items information <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6145>
08:18 rangi if it cant be replicated in master then yeah
08:17 kf it's for 3.2?
08:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6145 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , ModBiblio double encoding items information
08:17 kf shouldn't bug 6145 marked wontfix?
08:17 kf hm
08:16 gaetan_B :)
08:14 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B
08:14 gaetan_B hello
08:13 julian_m hi rangi and kf
08:12 * kf waves :)
08:12 rangi hi matts, asaurat and julian_m .. and wb kf
08:10 matts hi
08:06 asaurat niihau =)
08:06 wahanui niihau, asaurat
08:06 asaurat hi
08:01 julian_m hi
07:58 reiveune :)
07:58 magnuse same to you reiveune
07:54 rangi and to you too
07:53 reiveune happy new year everybody
07:53 rangi hi reiveune
07:53 wahanui hola, reiveune
07:53 reiveune hello
07:45 bag I think I remember nights like that when I was young
07:45 cait :)
07:44 rangi there wasnt much sleep going on though
07:44 bag yeah that's the key :)
07:44 rangi they loved it
07:44 bag sorry rangi but that always sounds like an excellent idea ;)
07:42 magnuse will do! ;-)
07:41 rangi remind me its not :)
07:41 rangi next time i think taking a 2 year old and a 5 year old 'camping' in a tent in my parents backyard is a good idea
07:41 * rangi is tired
07:31 magnuse yay!
07:31 bigbrovar rangi, magnuse thanks so much guys, it works fine now :)
07:26 rangi hi alex_a
07:26 rangi :)
07:25 rangi what magnuse said
07:25 rangi http://the.whole.thing/
07:21 bigbrovar rangi, what should be the absolute path? from the koha server root? or the baseurl?
07:21 magnuse bigbrovar: try a full url, starting with http...
07:20 alex_a morning
07:20 bigbrovar rangi, this is the part to the opacsmallimage opac-tmpl/prog/images/tellico.png thats the value I used.
07:19 rangi bigbrovar: hmm check the path to the opacsmallimage then
07:19 rangi :)
07:19 cait fredericd: I will add my sign-off to your signed off patch :)
07:19 fredericd please, after you
07:18 bigbrovar rangi, the base url is correct
07:18 fredericd cait: BZ collision!
07:17 rangi fredericd and cait signed off at the same time
07:17 cait fredericd++
07:17 rangi heh
07:16 rangi or path to opacsmallimage relative instead of full path
07:15 bigbrovar let me check, well be
07:15 rangi bigbrovar: not sure, seems like maybe opacbaseurl set wrong?
07:15 cait morning magnuse :)
07:14 magnuse hiya and happy new year rangi!
07:14 rangi hi magnuse
07:12 magnuse kia ora #koha!
07:11 bigbrovar t this error using chrome debug tools http://pastebin.com/ueEs0e4J interestingly I dont get any error when I just go to library.aust-abuja.org it only shows up when the link is http://library.aust-abuja.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl what could I be doing wrong ?
07:11 bigbrovar hi guys, I just noticed a small bug with my koha instance which has been running for about a year now. I noticed that when. I have goto to the root url library.aust-abuja.org everything is displayed fine. including opacsmallimage. however when I click to this URL library.aust-abuja.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl which still direct to my koha' opac only this time. image contents I added to the opacmainbloack and even the opacsmallimage fail to load and I ge
07:06 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7394] Broken detail page for last link from result page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7394>
07:01 bag yo cait
07:01 cait hi bag
07:01 bag heya rangi
07:01 rangi heya bag
06:54 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 9.8�C (10:53 PM PST on January 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady).
06:54 bag @wunder 93109
06:07 rangi http://perladvent.org/2011/2011-12-22.html <-- something worth looking into more
05:46 cait evening rangi :)
05:46 Oak :)
05:46 rangi heya Oak
05:18 Oak good evening rangi
05:13 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (6:00 PM NZDT on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
05:13 rangi @wunder nzwn
05:13 rangi evening
04:41 Oak i know.
04:41 huginn cait: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 7.0�C (9:00 AM PKT on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
04:41 cait @wunder Islamabad
04:40 cait oh
04:38 Oak hm.
04:38 huginn Oak: Error: No such location could be found.
04:38 Oak @wunder moon
04:38 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 7.0�C (9:00 AM PKT on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
04:38 Oak @wunder islamabad
04:38 cait good morning Oak :)
04:38 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.0�C (5:34 AM CET on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady).
04:38 Oak @wunder Konstanz
04:37 Oak Guten Morgen cait. you are up early :)
03:29 bag heya AmitG
03:29 AmitG heya bag
03:28 AmitG heyabag
01:04 * jcamins wonders whether wizzyrea's roast ever finished cooking.
00:18 wizzyrea no worries - i'm guessing "soon" is the real right answer. :)
00:18 jcamins wizzyrea: sorry about that.
00:14 wizzyrea hmm
00:14 jcamins wizzyrea: forever!
00:12 * wizzyrea wonders how much longer this roast is going to cook.