Time  Nick         Message
23:58 wizzyrea     "orcas kicked their arse"
23:42 rangi        orcas kicked their arse
23:41 rangi        yep
23:41 rhcl         saw the reporting on whales vs sharks
23:41 rangi        the orca vs shark thing?
23:41 rangi        near tuatapere
23:41 rangi        bottom of the south island
23:40 rhcl         rangi: are you anywhere near Blue Cliffs Beach, or is that south island
23:35 trea-away    ok bye
23:35 trea-away    :P
23:35 trea-away    hey, i resemble that remark
23:27 rangi        trea runs away at the idea of cataloguing
23:26 rangi        and magnuse can put up some rdf tuple, or triple or something too :)
23:25 rangi        so people can add the newsletter to their catalogue easily
23:25 rangi        and update it with each one, to add a new item, (the item having the url to it in it)
23:24 rangi        we should put a unimarc, marc21 and normarc record of the newsletter up
23:24 rangi        i had an idea
22:59 rangi        hehe you shoulda submitted one :)
22:58 bag          what no picture of Aloo?
22:52 rangi        http://cuteoverload.com/2011/12/31/top-ten-cutest-photos-of-2011/
22:49 bag          yeah I've done worse like - This is my password world - please hack my email :D
22:48 bag          oh rangi it looks like I've got you beat for todays temp :)
22:48 rangi        ive seen far worse
22:48 bag          heh wrong window fail ;)
22:47 rangi        heh :)
22:47 bag          hi #koha :)
22:47 bag          sekjal: you can answer me in a PM :)
22:47 bag          sekjal where you able to work out a time for ago43 to come visit?
22:45 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 04, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
22:45 rangi        @wunder nzwn
22:44 huginn       bag: The current temperature in SOMA - Near Van Ness, San Francisco, California is 16.9�C (2:44 PM PST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Steady).
22:44 bag          @wunder 94102
22:44 huginn       bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 22.8�C (2:43 PM PST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Steady).
22:44 bag          @wunder 93109
22:32 cait         nice to now :)
22:31 * wizzyrea   becomes a time traveler
22:30 ebegin       :)
22:30 wizzyrea     a negative period does in fact work as you would expect, and makes the item due in the past.
22:30 wizzyrea     just in case you were wondering
22:30 wizzyrea     it would indeed.
22:30 wizzyrea     :D
22:30 ebegin       I think that dec, 31th, 9999 should do the job for a while :)
22:29 ebegin       in a another system, NEVER is a choice for the date due
22:29 wizzyrea     well you could set a hard due date out like 99zillion years
22:28 * wizzyrea   wonders what a negative period would do
22:28 sekjal       I've always wanted to use Koha for an independent video store (not that there are many left)
22:28 wizzyrea     hmm
22:28 sekjal       so we could handle not only libraries, but retail establishments as well
22:27 sekjal       if we could get permanent loans to work, we'd have a mechanism for making sales
22:27 wahanui      interesting is good
22:27 sekjal       ebegin:  interesting...
22:27 wizzyrea     I just did it and it set a rule with 0 as the period - let me see what that does
22:26 wizzyrea     ebgin: I have never tried it, but can you set a circ rule without a period?
22:24 ebegin       I never saw a way to do a permanent loan. It that possible ?  other than setting the return date way far in the future)
21:53 huginn       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
21:53 jcamins      @later tell paul_p Which branch should I be looking at for the solr development? dev/solr, wip/solr, or something else entirely?
21:53 patric       thanks again everybody, works peachy
21:53 jcamins      I wonder why he didn't get my @later.
21:53 jcamins      Darn. Missed him.
21:50 jcamins      ;)
21:50 jcamins      eythian: leaves a fellow baffled.
21:50 eythian      oh ah
21:50 jcamins      eythian: there are a whole bunch of solr branches.
21:50 eythian      *git
21:49 eythian      jcamins: bit branch -a | grep solr ?
21:49 jcamins      dev/solr wip/solr or something else?
21:48 jcamins      Which branch for the solr code?
21:48 cait         plain
21:48 cait         I am using an editor
21:48 jcamins      paul_p: wait! If you haven't left yet, I have a quick question!
21:48 jcamins      eythian++
21:47 eythian      e.g. vim
21:46 patric       There are decent html editors out there, just because word's a flaming pile doesn't mean you need to avoid all of them.
21:46 cait         color:windowtext
21:46 cait         but it's impossible to get even simple things like the font color from the code
21:46 cait         I am almost there
21:46 cait         it's ok
21:45 eythian      cait: I'd wonder if it were easier to use something like catdoc to do it for you (although, it won't give you HTML)
21:44 melia        thank you, paul_p!
21:44 paul_p       (melia, just QAed 6488 !)
21:44 paul_p       bye world, i'm heading to bed
21:41 cait         trying to rewrite html generated with word into real html... word--
21:39 patric       I feel so at home here.
21:23 libsysguy    but i was hoping i could be lazy
21:23 libsysguy    i guess i could just select the parent then the sub element
21:23 jcamins      Part of XHTML2.
21:23 jcamins      Never heard of it.
21:23 jcamins      Huh.
21:23 libsysguy    yeah drupal uses them a lot
21:23 jcamins      That doesn't seem right.
21:22 jcamins      libsysguy: property?
21:22 * libsysguy  curses drupals dynamic generation
21:22 rangi        but thats my answer to everything
21:22 rangi        libsysguy: id give it an id
21:22 libsysguy    how do i select that with css
21:22 libsysguy    ok random question if i have <span property="dc:title">
21:21 rangi        lol
21:21 jcamins      patric: in 16 words, rangi summarized the entirety of library technology.
21:21 rangi        patric: koha is something we hacked together in 3 months to solve a y2k issue ... ;)
21:21 huginn       jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
21:21 jcamins      @quote get 123
21:20 jcamins      eythian: awesome!
21:20 rangi        and IT related to library science is even more so :)
21:20 rangi        library science is the kingdom of hacks :)
21:20 rangi        patric: tell you a secret
21:19 cait         lol
21:18 patric       It looks all professional and stuff, not all like I hacked it together (shhh!)
21:18 patric       Happiness!!
21:17 eythian      same to you :D
21:16 eythian      hallo cait
21:16 cait         happy new year!
21:16 cait         heya eythian :)
21:15 rangi        hehe
21:12 eythian      http://thehairpin.com/2011/09/fake-books-i-asked-librarians-for
21:00 cait         you will perhaps have to change some other fields too from the copy you showed earlier
20:59 cait         :)
20:57 patric       btw, help in here seems to be top notch, thanks again
20:57 patric       waiting for the new import (with 245$a entries) to index
20:28 * magnus_afk wanders off again
20:24 magnus_afk   things are lining up neatly?
20:23 jcamins      :)
20:23 cait         now jcamins is really here for one time and magnuse is waving while afk ;)
20:22 * magnus_afk waves
20:22 * liw        now feels he can stay for another little while on the channel
20:22 cait         liw++
20:22 liw          cait, no problem, glad to be of help
20:22 cait         hm investigate
20:21 rangi        now it makes sense
20:21 cait         liw: thx for your help :) I think I will investiage what you can do using thunderbird and outlook
20:21 rangi        liw: ahhh *click*
20:21 * jcamins    never heard of Mel Kaye before.
20:21 wahanui      interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good
20:21 jcamins      Interesting.
20:20 liw          rangi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Kaye
20:19 liw          jcamins, I have nothing against butterflies, though I now have a vision of a series of romance novels of a vampire butterfly
20:18 jcamins      Got it, never mind.
20:18 wizzyrea     i'm pretty sure I did once accidentally
20:18 cait         hm perhaps by accident answering one
20:18 cait         I never wrote a html mail all my life I think :)
20:18 liw          cait, I haven't used the HTML formatting bit of Thuderbird, but I know it's there
20:18 wahanui      i guess git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
20:18 cait         git?
20:18 jcamins      Help! How do I cancel a merge that went horribly wrong?
20:17 cait         the paper bit irritated me a bit :)
20:17 liw          cait, and some people still generate paper newsletters and send them by post, even if it's getting rarer, and since I happen to know about those, I thought I'd ask
20:17 cait         I think what I need to do is create a template for him to use with thunderbird or outlook
20:16 cait         thx :)
20:16 liw          cait, I'm asking a lot of questions because I want to narrow down the search space to be able to provide a useful answer
20:16 cait         and it's about creating the mail, some wysiwyg
20:16 cait         I guess I am going to suggest that
20:16 liw          cait, do you need a tool to create the html content, or mailing list software to do the actual sending? is something like Thunderbird's HTML formatting suitable?
20:15 jcamins      liw: what do you have against butterflies?
20:14 * cait       peeks out
20:14 liw          cait, I'm not teasing -- sorry
20:14 * cait       goes to hide somewhere in bugzilla
20:14 cait         and I think you are teasing me finishing reading your questions... *sigh*
20:14 cait         from what I got told html mail, because it should hav eformatting, pictures and things... and via mail to customers
20:14 rangi        liw: ahh :-)
20:13 liw          cait, can you expand on what kind of newsletter, what format it should be sent out as, and what medium it should be sent out as? e.g., does it get sent via e-mail, or is it on a web page? or perhaps printed on paper and sent by post?
20:12 liw          rangi, no, a knee-jerk reaction to the words "real programmer"
20:11 rangi        liw: was mel a suggestion for cait ?
20:10 jcamins      PHP List?
20:09 jcamins      Ah. Hrm.
20:09 cait         i could
20:09 cait         the person asking about it has problems with that
20:09 jcamins      cait: however, can't you just use a basic HTML editor?
20:08 cait         cookies in the shape of butterflies?
20:08 jcamins      cait: aww, butterflies are always a good idea.
20:08 cait         jcamins: no teasing please, it's not for me
20:08 wahanui      You should check out http://xkcd.com/378/
20:08 jcamins      real programmers?
20:07 wahanui      OK, jcamins.
20:07 jcamins      wahanui: real programmers is <reply> You should check out http://xkcd.com/378/
20:07 liw          Mel
20:07 jcamins      real programmers?
20:07 jcamins      *butterfly
20:07 jcamins      cait: a butterly?
20:06 cait         anyone an idea?
20:05 cait         html mails with some formatting, pictures etc.
20:05 cait         I am looking for a software to create a newsletter
20:05 cait         hm
20:04 wizzyrea     and that shirt.
20:03 wizzyrea     hm true
20:03 jcamins      wizzyrea: with that hair, I think you could be forgiven for the error.
20:03 wizzyrea     oh sorry 80's
20:02 oleonard     Did people in the 70's really not know that chocolate and peanut butter went well together?  I seriously wonder about that.
20:01 patric       tyvm for the undo import
20:01 patric       btw, initial diagnosis was entirely correct, didn't have a 245$a, had it under 130$a
20:01 jcamins      oleonard: exactly.
20:00 wizzyrea     how very 70's of you
19:59 oleonard     Oh sorry, I guess I was the one with the chocolate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJLDF6qZUX0
19:59 wizzyrea     You got your peanut butter on my chocolate!
19:58 oleonard     The chocolate bar fell right into the peanut butter, and I was all "You got chocolate in my peanut butter!" I was so angry.
19:57 oleonard     jcamins: Like that time I was walking with an open jar of peanut butter, and ran into that cute girl carrying an oversized chocolate bar?
19:52 jcamins      A cooking disaster leads to delicious cookies.
19:52 jcamins      *cookies
19:51 jcamins      I love it when a cooking disaster leads to delicious cooking.
19:47 cait         on the manage staded marc records page
19:47 nengard      thanks all
19:46 cait         patric: and you can get the wrong records out of your system easily by undoing the import
19:46 rangi        nengard: the way to call it is in that crontab.example file
19:46 cait         do you want to dump your entire database or only the records?
19:46 patric       how can I dump my catalog?
19:45 nengard      yes that's the one
19:45 jwagner      You mean to build the holds queue?  kohaclone/misc/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl
19:44 rangi        look at misc/cronjobs/crontab.example
19:44 nengard      i'm in the kohaclone directory
19:43 nengard      what's the command i should type to get the holds queue to populate on my test server?
19:42 libsysguy    sorry I had to step away
19:42 libsysguy    cait no seperate templates
19:39 wizzyrea     Ninjas!
19:39 rangi        pirates!
19:39 wizzyrea     hi there
19:39 wahanui      I LIKE SCIENCE!
19:39 rangi        hey wizzyrea
19:34 patric       Is there a quick way to flush those records, they look useless, I'm planning to go back to marcedit and recreate them
19:33 patric       I used marcedit and a text export from our old system to generate those records
19:16 rangi        :)
19:16 jcamins      I meant "fix" as in what one does to pets.
19:15 jcamins      rangi: that's what I meant.
19:12 * cait       waves at chrisdothall
19:12 cait         libsysguy: both links are to the same template with same parameters?
19:12 rangi        no he's sitting right next to me
19:12 cait         is he gone too?
19:12 ibeardslee   he did, probably should have bugged him about it
19:11 rangi        ibeardslee: ahh hmm did chrisdothall take the photos?
19:11 rangi        jcamins: theres no fixing, there's only building Koha::Search :)
19:10 cait         where did you get the records from?
19:10 patric       checking mapping
19:09 ibeardslee   rangi: no I didn't, didn't get them .. and probably should have got one yesterday while the laptops disks were being wiped
19:09 jcamins      Much worse.
19:09 jcamins      I agree with cait. Changing the mapping will just make things worse.
19:09 jcamins      rangi: if you decide you do want to kill someone with Koha, have them fix C4::Search. :P
19:09 cait         recommend
19:09 cait         I would not recomment changing the mappings - and it wll probably not help your display problem
19:08 patric       That's what I think
19:08 cait         it looks like they don't have a 245$a = title
19:08 cait         and your records are marc21 too?
19:08 cait         are you using marc21?
19:08 cait         you shouldn't have to change the mappings
19:08 pastebot     "patric" at 68.98.203.253 pasted "results of a search for "a" in catalog" (180 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/183
19:08 cait         hm no it shouldn't
19:07 patric       it is now populated, with records that don't make sense, I assume that's a marc to koha mapping thing
19:04 rangi        ibeardslee: did you ever put up the photos of the academy set up?
19:04 jcamins      Heh.
19:04 cait         heh
19:03 rangi        the unit tests didnt break him, so he got hired :)
19:03 cait         oh
19:03 cait         ts.
19:03 rangi        full time employee
19:03 cait         and to drupal
19:03 cait         I was wondeirng
19:03 rangi        (duncan is now on the drupal team)
19:03 cait         oh
19:02 patric       zebra logs are empty
19:02 rangi        done=down
19:02 rangi        duncan got stolen actually, im done to 1, chrisdothall
19:02 jcamins      (them, in this case, being rangi's interns;)
19:02 rangi        yep
19:01 jcamins      rangi: and it'd be one less thing in C4.
19:01 jcamins      rangi: that'd be pretty easy, actually, I think.
19:01 rangi        maybe february
19:01 * jcamins    doesn't have any interns, so he has to delegate to them.
19:01 rangi        but actually no, that wouldnt be so bad
19:01 rangi        i want to train them, not kill them :)
19:01 rangi        heh
19:00 cait         heh
19:00 jcamins      rangi: you should get one of your interns to turn C4::XSLT into a T::T plugin.
18:58 libsysguy    but if you just search from the main page you get that template error
18:58 libsysguy    if you do the search from the circulation section you don't get the error
18:58 libsysguy    i found something interesting
18:58 cait         oh yes
18:58 libsysguy    remember that problem I was having earlier
18:58 cait         but about your git question... better ask rangi :)
18:58 libsysguy    hey cait :)
18:58 cait         I am here libsysguy
18:57 wahanui      kf was last seen on #koha 1 hours, 52 minutes and 42 seconds ago, saying: sekjal: I think I have no helpful ideas :( [Tue Jan  3 17:04:45 2012]
18:57 libsysguy    seen kf
18:57 rangi        skushner: in master i dont have call to config on line 654
18:56 rangi        it might still be running
18:56 rangi        it should be populated now, it shouldnt need zebrasrv to reindex, but do a ps axf | grep "rebuild"
18:56 libsysguy    ok so i know how to reset a single file via git but what if I wanted to reset all the .po files
18:56 skushner     git 3.04.00
18:56 * jcamins    goes to make cookies.
18:55 jcamins      (2:00, 1:50, whatever... it depends what time your server thinks it is;)
18:55 jcamins      patric: it should be populated after the next time you pass a ten minute mark.
18:54 rangi        what version of Koha skushner ?
18:54 rangi        hmm
18:53 skushner     Still getting this error...anyone else have this problem? thanks. Hi..I'm getting the error "Koha error: The following fatal error has occurred: Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 654. . anyone seen this. It's when I'm trying to install Koha using http://xxx.xxx.x.xx:8080..
18:53 patric       so, wait ten minutes, and see if my catalog's populated?
18:52 patric       was about to start blindly restarting things until it did something different
18:52 patric       thanks much
18:52 rangi        should be all good from now though
18:51 jcamins      patric: not sure why, but it wasn't running.
18:51 jcamins      patric: you didn't have Zebra running.
18:51 skushner     No, Owen..that wasn't it.
18:51 pastebot     "patric" at 68.98.203.253 pasted "output of restart of koha-common" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/182
18:50 rangi        will make sure zebrasrv is running
18:50 rangi        sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common restart
18:49 rangi        just for kicks try this
18:49 rangi        /etc/cron.d/koha-common is where the indexing lives
18:49 patric       Yes, it's status is now imported
18:48 rangi        and you completed it eh? (did the import bit .. i always ask the simple questions)
18:48 patric       stage
18:47 rangi        you did the stage marc import, or uses bulkmarcimport.pl?
18:46 cait         listen to him he knows ^^ :)
18:45 jcamins      Every ten minutes.
18:45 jcamins      patric: it should be indexing.
18:45 cait         you might need to run another command to activate indexing
18:45 cait         ah
18:45 patric       no, used the debian package, and koha-create, which was supposed to do that for me, checking crontab now
18:44 cait         did you set up the cronjobs for indexing?
18:41 patric       log indicates that records were imported, search shows no results
18:41 patric       imported marc data, koha seems to think my catalog's empty
18:39 cait         'what's the next step?'
18:39 cait         like when oyu have that big task you don't know where to start and keep delaying it
18:39 cait         having a next step list is really useful
18:38 jcamins      cait: I don't imagine I'll follow all of it, but I'm trying to do as much as I can.
18:38 rangi        my stop bbiab
18:33 cait         jcamins: gtd is not bad, although I don't follow it all
18:33 rangi        I hope to do some follow ups for it when I get a chance
18:33 jcamins      And "Sign off on cait's patch"
18:32 jcamins      Like "drop sekjal a note about QAing my bugs."
18:32 rangi        yay!
18:32 sekjal       7394 passed QA
18:32 jcamins      I'm trying to implement GTD, and to reinforce the habit, I've identified lots of easy tasks.
18:32 cait         lol
18:31 jcamins      Yes, I put it on my to-do list starting yesterday.
18:31 sekjal       a while, for sure
18:31 rangi        jcamins: cool :)
18:31 sekjal       not sure when the next will be
18:31 sekjal       was just on vacation
18:31 jcamins      (when you get back)
18:31 jcamins      sekjal: so if you go on vacation, you'll get a lot of messages from huginn about it. ;)
18:30 sekjal       jcamins:  I was wondering...
18:30 jcamins      sekjal: in case you hadn't guessed, that's on my "daily tasks" list. ;)
18:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
18:29 * jcamins    bugs sekjal about QAing bug 1633, and crosses that item off his to-do list for today. :)
18:27 sekjal       cait:  was looking at it this morning, but got distracted before i could git bz it down
18:27 jcamins      rangi: you'll be glad to know that eventually I figured out OO Perl.
18:27 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7394 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , Broken detail page for last link from result page
18:27 cait         bug 7394
18:26 cait         could I ask you nicely to qa on the bug from yesterday? :)
18:26 cait         hi sekjal :)
18:25 cait         morning rangi :)
18:25 jcamins      Good morning, rangi.
18:25 jcamins      Yeah, I see he left 50 minutes ago.
18:24 rangi        heya sekjal
18:24 jcamins      It's too late for paul_p, isn't it?
18:24 sekjal       morning, rangi
18:23 rangi        morning
18:03 jwagner      and to you too
18:02 cait         hi jwagner  - happy new year
18:00 jwagner      hi cait
17:56 cait         hi again #koha
17:10 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7399] Holds Queue should show reserve notes <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7399>
17:10 gaetan_B     bye !
17:05 sekjal       I'll just make the note show on the far right of the Holds Queue table
17:05 kf           sekjal: I think I have no helpful ideas :(
17:03 hdl1         ok have fun folks
17:03 kf           reservenotes in reserves and notes in tmp_holdsqueue
17:02 kf           oh we have
17:02 kf           why don't we have a note field in reserves?
17:02 kf           hm
17:01 sekjal       view_holdsqueue.pl
17:01 kf           and on which page? the holds view on the record? or one of the reports?
17:01 sekjal       it's processed into the tmp_holdsqueue table, but not displayed
17:01 kf           ah
17:01 sekjal       kf:  the hold note
17:00 kf           sekjal: what would the note be for?
17:00 kf           happy new year hdl :)
16:57 jcamins      Happy new year!
16:57 hdl1         hi happy new year
16:53 sekjal       opinion on where to add a Notes column to the Holds Queue?  I was thinking at the end, but does anyone have a different idea?
16:30 clrh         :)
16:24 gaetan_B     oops wrong channel :-X:-/
16:24 gaetan_B     ça vient de Babelio à priori ?
16:24 gaetan_B     clrh: je viens de voir ça datant du 29/12 : http://mantis.biblibre.com/view.php?id=8606
16:22 nengard      what is the script you have to run to generate the borrowers file for the offline circ tool? I just noticed that it's not documented in the manual!
16:21 libsysguy    ok well mine were set to null
16:21 kf           do you mean flags? because that's permissions and 0 probably right
16:21 kf           I think that's only for debarred
16:20 asaurat      bye !
16:20 libsysguy    where there was a patch to set something to NULL
16:19 libsysguy    is this that weird error that happened a while back with flags in the database
16:19 libsysguy    the broken patron has a 0 flag set
16:18 libsysguy    they got an email notice and they are disputing it so I was going to look them up
16:17 libsysguy    well the other patron was me and I don't have any holds but i think the other patron does
16:17 kf           does oone have holds and the other not?
16:17 kf           hm the line refers to somehting with holds
16:17 libsysguy    i don't see anything weird
16:16 libsysguy    yeah i just looked up the broken patron in the database
16:16 kf           I mean the borrowers
16:14 kf           something in the data of those 2 must be different
16:12 libsysguy    kf would that explain why I can look up some names and not others?
16:09 kf           yep, fun watching :)
16:09 gaetan_B     there's been some teamwork going on today :)
16:09 asaurat      :)
16:09 kf           libsysguy, oleonard: could the error be caused by the pl file not matching the template file?
16:09 gaetan_B     :)
16:09 tcohen       thanks kf
16:08 kf           gaetan_B++ asaurat++
16:07 libsysguy    if you want to take a peek at it
16:07 libsysguy    but i can certainly paste the file
16:07 libsysguy    so it should look just like master
16:07 libsysguy    well I just ran a git checkout HEAD moremember.tt
16:07 oleonard     libsysguy: It would be easy to see if your copy of the template was corrupt for whatever reason if you pasted its contents
16:06 kf           tcohen: if git bz apply does not work it's always got to do a git am -i3u file <file in temp folder it created>
16:06 libsysguy    what do you mean oleonard
16:05 reiveune     bye
16:05 oleonard     libsysguy: What does the template in question look like?
16:04 tcohen       (to the author)
16:04 tcohen       and continuing the old way to propose a fix
16:04 tcohen       ok, i marked  the bug does not apply
16:04 kf           tcohen: git bz does no 3 way merge when applying and it doesn't deal with conflicts (only working with bugzilla)
16:04 libsysguy    this may have been happening for awhile and i just now noticed :p
16:03 libsysguy    kf it may not be your fault
16:03 kf           (and I forgot what I have to do now... again)
16:03 ebegin       :)
16:03 nengard      :)
16:02 nengard      jinx
16:02 nengard      there is a bug report on that
16:02 kf           ebegin: no, but there is a bug for it
16:02 nengard      ebegin there is not
16:02 tcohen       any git-bz guru?
16:02 ebegin       reading the emails on the koha list, I was wondering if there is a way to prevents patrons to create public lists ?
16:02 libsysguy    hehe
16:01 kf           I am confessing to have touched it... willingly!
16:01 tcohen       or have to go the git -3 way only?
16:01 libsysguy    so kf i can do a git blame :p jk jk
16:01 tcohen       is it possible to try to merge and solve problems in the merge using git-bz?
16:00 libsysguy    pastebot hates me
16:00 libsysguy    http://paste.koha-community.org/181?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21
16:00 kf           http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=history;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/moremember.tt;h=178529245e1d3b12c27b1cdca9a3d6b7b7f712f2;hb=1730e180cdbe11a7878ddfab54cec7291d12f430
15:59 oleonard     libsysguy: can you paste the whole error? http://paste.koha-community.org/
15:59 kf           I was the last to change that file...
15:59 libsysguy    so maybe it is a translation thing
15:59 kf           sadly
15:59 kf           ok
15:59 libsysguy    but when i look up travis its ok
15:59 libsysguy    it looks like when i look up the name ABHIDNYA GHUGE i get an error
15:59 kf           so it's the account detail tab?
15:59 edveal       oleonard: Thanks
15:58 wahanui      interesting is, like, good
15:58 libsysguy    ok interesting
15:58 libsysguy    hmm
15:58 kf           because that's ususally my problem
15:58 kf           at :) a translated file
15:58 libsysguy    no I don't think im looking for a translation kf
15:58 libsysguy    i just checked that file out from master
15:57 kf           not looking at a translation?
15:57 oleonard     edveal: I think at that time it may have been decided that a generic "item lost" was sufficient in the OPAC, I'm not sure.  If so, I'm not sure the "OPAC description" option was taken into consideration
15:57 kf           no local changes?
15:57 wahanui      it has been said that master is for 3.6
15:57 kf           master?
15:57 kf           hm not good
15:57 libsysguy    unexpected end of input in Templates.pm :-/
15:56 libsysguy    Template process failed: file error - parse error
15:56 edveal       oleonard: doesn't look like it has been addressed in a while? Might you have any insight on it resolution?
15:56 kf           waht happens?
15:56 kf           hm
15:55 libsysguy    anybody else see it?
15:55 libsysguy    i did an update this morning and I get an error in /koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/moremember.tt
15:54 libsysguy    morning #Koha
15:53 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4173 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Statuses not appearing in the OPAC
15:53 oleonard     edveal: Bug 4173?
15:51 kf           trying it out with an easy example will show :)
15:51 kf           not sure
15:51 kf           and I think you might need distinct (.... ) or disctint, distinct...
15:49 magnuse      i'd say "distinct borrowernumber/issuedate combos" - but i'd experiment a little before i made up my mind... ;-)
15:49 magnuse      "DISTINCT specifies removal of duplicate rows from the result set." http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/select.html
15:48 kf           perhaps you need ()
15:48 kf           out
15:48 kf           Iw ould try it
15:47 kf           hm not sure
15:42 nengard      question about SELECT DISTINCT - is it selecting distinct versions of all fields queried? So if I do SELECT DISTINCT borrowernumber, issuedate is it getting only distinct borrowernumber/issuedate combos? or only distict borrowerumbers?
15:37 skushner     magnuse: git 3.04.00
15:37 edveal       I have duplicated this on at least two instances of Koha.
15:36 edveal       No I am not sure... Whenever I put something in the "Description (OPAC)" field it does not showing in the OPAC.
15:35 oleonard     edveal: Are you sure it's a new bug rather than an omission? Where do you see the problem?
15:33 huginn       04Bug 5533: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , marking item lost diff in two places
15:33 edveal       Good morning everyone! I am working with the "Authorized Values" for lost and it seems that the "Description (OPAC)" field is being ignored in the OPAC. Anyone else seeing this or have any insight on it.  I think it is connected to http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5533
15:33 magnuse      skushner: which version are you installing?
15:31 oleonard     skushner: I see an old Koha list thread which references the same error. Maybe one of the replies is relevant? http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2010-January/022164.html
15:29 skushner     I think it might have something to do with a password for mysql db..but not sure.
15:28 skushner     Hi..I'm getting the error "Koha error: The following fatal error has occurred: Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 654. . anyone seen this. It's when I'm trying to install Koha using http://xxx.xxx.x.xx:8080..thanks, and happy new year...
15:15 magnuse      ooh, clever ;-)
15:14 mbalmer      good {eve|mor}ning
14:39 schuster     Glad someone understood it!  Rangi posted it originally!  I read cache blah blah blah some code blah blah blah cache....
14:38 jcamins_away schuster: interesting article.
14:36 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6374] Use "size" as names/hash keys leads to an unexpected results when using Template::Toolkit (name of a virtual method there) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6374>
14:25 magnuse      lol
14:25 schuster     I understand!  Good luck - I have some peppermint in the freezer at home...  Boys made me do it!
14:25 oleonard     Later rescheduled and switched to "Oh no, I ate all the ice cream" day
14:23 oleonard     Today is "Hooray, I didn't eat any ice cream yet" day.
14:23 schuster     Hey oleonard!  Happy New Year make it to the Gym or is today the "allow body to rebuild day?"
14:22 oleonard     Hi schuster
14:22 schuster     just read this from the read back from Rangi - http://perladvent.org/2011/2011-12-22.html and am glad there are others smarter than me who understand what he was talking about :)
14:19 huginn       schuster: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is -7.0�C (7:56 AM CST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
14:19 schuster     @wunder Sioux Falls SD
14:19 schuster     remembers cold - degree days - glad he now lives in Texas!
14:18 huginn       schuster: The current temperature in Preston Lakes, Frisco, Texas is 2.8�C (8:17 AM CST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.58 in 1035.4 hPa (Rising).
14:18 schuster     @wunder 75035
13:56 magnuse      muni: which OS are you installing on, and how are you doing the installation (which instructions are you following)?
13:51 muni         can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC
13:45 oleonard     Which ones muni?
13:45 muni         Missing some perl dependencies
13:43 magnuse      muni: depends on what the problem is ;-)
13:43 muni         How can i fix this problem?
13:42 muni         Hello, I face a problem during koha installation with perl dependencies.
13:36 magnuse      :-)
13:35 * druthb     shivers, and hunkers down under her blanket.
13:35 magnuse      nort of the arctic circle, akshuly ;-)
13:28 kf           :)
13:28 kf           hi oleonard
13:23 druthb       g'morning, oleonard.
13:23 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:22 druthb       that ain't right, now.
13:22 huginn       kf1: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0�C (2:00 PM CET on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
13:22 kf1          @wunder Konstanz
13:21 druthb       wait...it's colder in Lawrence, KS, than it is near the Arctic Circle?
13:21 * druthb     screeches to a halt.
13:21 huginn       druthb: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -4.6�C (7:20 AM CST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.41 in 1029.7 hPa (Falling).
13:21 druthb       @wunder lawrence, ks
13:20 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (1:50 PM CET on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985 hPa (Steady).
13:20 magnuse      @wunder boo
13:09 druthb       :D
13:09 kf1          hi druthb
13:04 magnuse      \o
12:48 druthb       o/
12:33 tcohen       hi #koha
11:24 asaurat      kf++
11:24 asaurat      nice :)
11:23 kf           let's find out :)
11:23 kf           asaurat: ok,I have done it
11:08 magnuse      the more the merrier!
11:07 asaurat      yes, should be present
11:07 kf           are you going to be at the meeting? it's a good time for europe tomorrow
11:06 kf           we will find out :)
11:06 kf           not sure you have to )
11:06 asaurat      ok, not used to this kind of thinking :D I'll learn
11:04 kf           :)
11:04 kf           hi hdl
11:04 kf           git blame will blame you for the lines, even if it's only whitespace changes
11:04 kf           i think one reason not to fix indentationmight be copyright?
11:03 kf           fixing a few more lines than strictly necessary hereand there
11:03 kf           I think we all kind of sneak around that
11:03 kf           yes
11:03 asaurat      coding guidelines, and patching limits :D should a patch fix only what the title implies, or do more if possible ?
11:01 kf           perhaps we can add : coding guidelines?
10:58 kf           we can stil add to the agenda
10:58 kf           nope
10:58 asaurat      could be a topic for tomorrow ? or are they all already decided ?
10:56 asaurat      yes!
10:55 kf           asaurat ping :)
10:55 kf           so perhaps this is really something that we should discuss and decide about
10:55 kf           but not sure we finally decided when to use it and on what parts of the code - only new, everything etc.
10:55 kf           we decided to use perltidy I think
10:54 kf           the bugzilla diff view is quite helpful
10:54 kf           was commenting on the bug again right now :)
10:54 kf           ah
10:53 asaurat      kf: tried to give hints about what changed, but without the patch formatting I'm not sure it's useful :p
10:33 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7379] some database fields are displayed 'as is' when they are linked to autorised values <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7379>
09:58 * kf_mtg     nick kf
09:38 * magnuse    too
09:37 * kf         will be there
09:37 kf           heh
09:35 paul_p       magnuse, right
09:33 magnuse      meeting in ~24.5 hours, right?
09:17 rangi        could be, ill have to look at his calibre next time im there :)
09:16 asaurat      Le mystère de la chambre jaune ? =)
09:16 asaurat      nice :)
09:12 rangi        paul_p: my dad is reading some french detective novels in french, its what he decided to buy himself for xmas
09:01 gaetan_B     :)
09:00 AmitG        :D
09:00 AmitG        gaetan_B: aap ko bhi
08:59 gaetan_B     hi AmitG! naya saal mubarak ho!
08:58 AmitG        happy new year
08:58 AmitG        gaetan_B
08:35 rangi        hi francharb
08:34 kf           hi francharb :)
08:30 francharb    hello
08:24 paul_p       & good night !
08:24 paul_p       happy new year rangi
08:24 rangi        bye too
08:24 rangi        hi paul_p by sophie
08:23 kf           hello sophie_m1 - happy new year:)
08:23 sophie_m1    and happy new year every one
08:23 sophie_m1    hello magnuse, happy new year !
08:22 magnuse      hiya sophie_m1 and paul_p
08:22 kf           morning paul_p
08:22 kf           then
08:22 kf           I think than the version number should be changed
08:22 paul_p       good morning world
08:22 kf           hm
08:21 julian_m     kf, hm... I don't know, i just updated patch status as it still apply
08:19 kf           julian_m: do you think it's still relevant for master?
08:19 asaurat      hi rangi, kf and gaetan_B!
08:19 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6145] ModBiblio double encoding items information <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6145>
08:18 rangi        if it cant be replicated in master then yeah
08:17 kf           it's for 3.2?
08:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6145 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , ModBiblio double encoding items information
08:17 kf           shouldn't bug 6145 marked wontfix?
08:17 kf           hm
08:16 gaetan_B     :)
08:14 wahanui      what's up, gaetan_B
08:14 gaetan_B     hello
08:13 julian_m     hi rangi and kf
08:12 * kf         waves :)
08:12 rangi        hi matts, asaurat and julian_m .. and wb kf
08:10 matts        hi
08:06 asaurat      niihau =)
08:06 wahanui      niihau, asaurat
08:06 asaurat      hi
08:01 julian_m     hi
07:58 reiveune     :)
07:58 magnuse      same to you reiveune
07:54 rangi        and to you too
07:53 reiveune     happy new year everybody
07:53 rangi        hi reiveune
07:53 wahanui      hola, reiveune
07:53 reiveune     hello
07:45 bag          I think I remember nights like that when I was young
07:45 cait         :)
07:44 rangi        there wasnt much sleep going on though
07:44 bag          yeah that's the key :)
07:44 rangi        they loved it
07:44 bag          sorry rangi but that always sounds like an excellent idea ;)
07:42 magnuse      will do! ;-)
07:41 rangi        remind me its not :)
07:41 rangi        next time i think taking a 2 year old and a 5 year old 'camping' in a tent in my parents backyard is a good idea
07:41 * rangi      is tired
07:31 magnuse      yay!
07:31 bigbrovar    rangi, magnuse thanks so much guys, it works fine now :)
07:26 rangi        hi alex_a
07:26 rangi        :)
07:25 rangi        what magnuse said
07:25 rangi        http://the.whole.thing/
07:21 bigbrovar    rangi, what should be the absolute path? from the koha server root? or the baseurl?
07:21 magnuse      bigbrovar: try a full url, starting with http...
07:20 alex_a       morning
07:20 bigbrovar    rangi, this is the part to the opacsmallimage opac-tmpl/prog/images/tellico.png thats the value I used.
07:19 rangi        bigbrovar: hmm check the path to the opacsmallimage then
07:19 rangi        :)
07:19 cait         fredericd: I will add my sign-off to your signed off patch :)
07:19 fredericd    please, after you
07:18 bigbrovar    rangi, the base url is correct
07:18 fredericd    cait: BZ collision!
07:17 rangi        fredericd and cait signed off at the same time
07:17 cait         fredericd++
07:17 rangi        heh
07:16 rangi        or path to opacsmallimage relative instead of full path
07:15 bigbrovar    let me check, well be
07:15 rangi        bigbrovar: not sure, seems like maybe opacbaseurl set wrong?
07:15 cait         morning magnuse :)
07:14 magnuse      hiya and happy new year rangi!
07:14 rangi        hi magnuse
07:12 magnuse      kia ora #koha!
07:11 bigbrovar    t this error using chrome debug tools http://pastebin.com/ueEs0e4J  interestingly I dont get any error when I just go to library.aust-abuja.org it only shows up when the link is http://library.aust-abuja.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl  what could I be doing wrong ?
07:11 bigbrovar    hi guys, I just noticed a small bug with my koha instance which has been running for about a year now. I noticed that when. I have goto to the root url library.aust-abuja.org everything is displayed fine. including opacsmallimage. however when I click to this URL library.aust-abuja.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl which still direct to my koha' opac only this time. image contents I added to the opacmainbloack and even the opacsmallimage fail to load and I ge
07:06 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7394] Broken detail page for last link from result page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7394>
07:01 bag          yo cait
07:01 cait         hi bag
07:01 bag          heya rangi
07:01 rangi        heya bag
06:54 huginn       bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 9.8�C (10:53 PM PST on January 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady).
06:54 bag          @wunder 93109
06:07 rangi        http://perladvent.org/2011/2011-12-22.html  <-- something worth looking into more
05:46 cait         evening rangi :)
05:46 Oak          :)
05:46 rangi        heya Oak
05:18 Oak          good evening rangi
05:13 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (6:00 PM NZDT on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
05:13 rangi        @wunder nzwn
05:13 rangi        evening
04:41 Oak          i know.
04:41 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 7.0�C (9:00 AM PKT on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
04:41 cait         @wunder Islamabad
04:40 cait         oh
04:38 Oak          hm.
04:38 huginn       Oak: Error: No such location could be found.
04:38 Oak          @wunder moon
04:38 huginn       Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 7.0�C (9:00 AM PKT on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
04:38 Oak          @wunder islamabad
04:38 cait         good morning Oak :)
04:38 huginn       Oak: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.0�C (5:34 AM CET on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady).
04:38 Oak          @wunder Konstanz
04:37 Oak          Guten Morgen cait. you are up early :)
03:29 bag          heya AmitG
03:29 AmitG        heya bag
03:28 AmitG        heyabag
01:04 * jcamins    wonders whether wizzyrea's roast ever finished cooking.
00:18 wizzyrea     no worries - i'm guessing "soon" is the real right answer. :)
00:18 jcamins      wizzyrea: sorry about that.
00:14 wizzyrea     hmm
00:14 jcamins      wizzyrea: forever!
00:12 * wizzyrea   wonders how much longer this roast is going to cook.