Time Nick Message 03:27 AmitG heya bag 03:28 bag heya AmitG 03:36 AmitG heya bag 03:37 bag heya AmitG 03:51 Oak kia ora #koha 06:55 cait good morning #koha 07:43 rangi hmm this practice of having master and 3.6.x have the same version numbers makes things confusing 07:44 cait agreed 07:44 rangi like that message now on koha-devel 07:45 rangi I was all what? 3.6.3 doesn't exist yet 07:45 rangi then I realised it was master 07:46 cait I had said that it would make it hard 07:46 cait to help people 07:47 cait because it's confusing 07:47 cait hm, next irc meeting? 07:47 wahanui next irc meeting is probably 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 07:48 cait forget next irc meeting 07:48 wahanui cait: I forgot next irc meeting 07:50 rangi both chris_n and I emailed paul about the version numbers, ignored us, hopefully someone else will have more success 07:53 cait I brought it up on the meeting 07:53 cait when did you mail? 07:54 rangi hmmm couple of months ago? 07:54 cait so before the meeting? meh. 07:57 cait we can only try again I guess. 07:57 paul_p hello world 07:59 cait good morning paul_p 07:59 rangi heya paul_p 07:59 rangi @wunder wellington nz 07:59 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (8:00 PM NZDT on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 08:00 cait @wunder Reutlingen 08:00 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 3.3�C (8:59 AM CET on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Steady). 08:00 cait morning julian_m 08:00 cait rangi, you win 08:00 julian_m hi cait, hi all 08:00 rangi hi julian_m 08:05 francharb hi 08:05 asaurat hi 08:05 wahanui privet, asaurat 08:05 AmitG heya cait, rangi, julian_m 08:05 rangi hi asaurat and francharb 08:06 rangi heya AmitG 08:06 cait hi asaurat, francharb and AmitG 08:06 julian_m hi AmitG and rangi 08:16 gaetan_B hello 08:16 rangi hi gaetan_B and matts 08:17 * cait waves 08:17 matts hello ! 08:49 AmitG heya gaetan_b 08:49 rangi right check that out 08:50 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=6948&action=diff 08:50 rangi if that patch goes in 08:51 rangi then in any template 08:51 rangi you can do 08:51 rangi [% USE KohaDates %] 08:51 rangi [% somedate_from_the_db | $KohaDates %] 08:52 rangi and it will print out in the format specified by the syspref 08:52 cait rangi++ 08:52 rangi so dont have to go round formatting them in the scripts 08:52 rangi first of many filter plugins i hope 08:52 rangi no reason we cant do one for currency 08:52 rangi or even 08:53 rangi [% USE KohaXSLT %] 08:53 rangi [% marcxml | $KohaXSLT %] 08:59 * cait confirms it works great 09:45 magnuse kia ora #koha! 09:45 rangi hi magnuse 09:45 magnuse ata marie rangi 09:46 cait morning magnuse :) 09:46 magnuse rangi: yup, i'm sort of involved in donum 09:46 magnuse i'm on the board, but it's not my initiative 09:46 rangi ahhh 09:47 magnuse and i have been meaning to translate some stuff and send it to the list and the newsletter, by way of introduction 09:47 magnuse but have not gotten around to it yet... 09:47 rangi i hear that 09:47 rangi a round tuit 09:47 rangi everyone needs one 09:47 magnuse hehe 09:48 rangi http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round_tuit 09:48 magnuse yeah, i remember it from an earlier discussion ;-) 09:48 rangi :) 09:49 magnuse very clever :-) 09:49 cait can I order a dozen? 09:50 rangi that reminds me of a bad christmas joke 09:50 cait wb paul_p 09:51 magnuse i'd give one each to eythian and srdjan so they could wrap up you-know-what... ;-) 09:51 magnuse kia ora paul_p! 09:51 paul_p hello cait. My laptop wifi connection is silly today... 09:51 paul_p hello magnuse 09:51 rangi do you know who king wenceslas is magnuse ? 09:52 rangi the joke doesnt work unless you know the song :) 09:53 magnuse well, i have heard the name, but don't know much more than that 09:54 magnuse Wikipedia: "Good King Wenceslas" is a popular Christmas carol about a king who goes out to give alms to a poor peasant on the Feast of Stephen (the second day of Christmas, December 26). During the journey, his page is about to give up the struggle against the cold weather, but is enabled to continue by following the king's footprints, step for step, through the deep snow. 09:54 magnuse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_King_Wenceslas 09:54 rangi yep 09:55 rangi so the joke is 09:55 rangi how does King Wenceslas like his pizza? 09:55 rangi Deep pan, crisp and even 09:56 * magnuse is baffled 09:56 rangi ah 09:56 rangi you need to read the lyrics 09:56 rangi http://www.carols.org.uk/good_king_wenceslas.htm 09:57 rangi 4th line 09:57 magnuse ah! hehe 09:57 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmmgsDfmPSI 10:02 magnuse mmm, pizza... 10:02 rangi hehe 10:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 929] See details of a budget <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=929> 10:37 magnuse heh, that's a fun way to include an image in an email 10:54 cait huh? 10:55 magnuse maybe it was just gmail? recent mail to the list that showed a looong string of hexadecimal or whatchamancallit 11:15 cait not sur ewhichmail you refer too 11:15 cait can't see one with attachement 11:16 magnuse cait: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2011-December/031605.html 11:17 cait ah 11:17 magnuse might be gmail playing tricks 11:17 cait html attachementscrubbed 11:17 cait it's not gmail I think, it's the attachement 11:18 cait yep 11:18 cait saved it as .html and now it shows text and screenshot 11:19 cait she is not using the xslt views 11:19 magnuse ah 11:23 * magnuse had some fun creating a simple munin plugin for koha (running off the packages) last night: https://github.com/MagnusEnger/munin-koha/blob/master/koha_- it can monitor the number of rows in any table in the db 11:23 magnuse not sure how useful that is... 11:30 cait for checking on the gratis koha? :) 11:34 magnuse yup, and the customers, when i move them to tha packages 11:35 cait oh the link is broken 11:37 magnuse https://github.com/MagnusEnger/munin-koha/blob/master/koha_ 11:37 magnuse shouldn't have the - at the end 12:51 nengard http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo is loading up but I can't get to the koha-docs list to approve a post ? any ideas? 12:51 magnuse heh, norwegian broadcasting did an item on bad eyesight - check out the graphic they chose to illustrate it with: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10032833 ;-) 12:52 cait hm not sure 12:52 cait did they start moving them? 12:53 nengard not sure 12:54 nengard is paul_p around? 12:54 paul_p yep. 12:54 paul_p good morning nengard 12:54 nengard Hiya paul! 12:54 nengard do you know why i can't access the documentation list? 12:54 nengard http://lists.koha-community.org works, but not the docs list and I have an email to approve 12:55 paul_p nengard, nope, https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-docs works for me 12:55 paul_p (except I can't login, I don't know the password) 12:55 nengard hmmm 12:55 nengard it keeps timing out for me 12:56 paul_p https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/koha-docs works well 12:56 paul_p (do you notice the httpS ?) 12:57 nengard i am clicking the link you're pasting and it's timing out 12:57 nengard and i clicked the link in my email and the link on the lists.koha-community.org page as well 12:57 nengard all time out 12:57 nengard cait can you try it? 12:57 cait times out for me too paul_p 12:57 cait on it :) 12:57 cait it works with http 12:57 paul_p shame on our VPN I think. 12:57 cait but something in the setup seems wrong then 12:57 cait perhaps not move that part over :) 12:58 * paul_p just called lducos to come here, it's our sysadmin 12:59 cait nengard: http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/koha-docs 12:59 nengard that worked! 12:59 nengard thanks cait 12:59 paul_p does it mean we don't need lducos anymore ? 12:59 paul_p ( nengard &cait ) ? 13:00 nengard i'm not sure what lducos is 13:00 nengard oh your sys admin 13:00 jcamins_away nengard: paul_p's sysadmin. 13:00 nengard well the http link works 13:00 nengard so the links on the page are wrong, but i can get in 13:01 cait paul_p: who is hiding behind lducos? 13:01 paul_p cait, Laurent Ducos 13:02 nengard okay my password isn't working 13:02 nengard anyone know how i get that reset? 13:02 paul_p nengard, lducos once again ;-) 13:02 nengard hehe 13:02 cait heh 13:03 cait so we need him :) 13:03 * cait waves at lducos 13:03 nengard hi lducos 13:03 lducos hello koha 13:03 nengard we have a couple issues 13:03 nengard #1 I can't log in to the koha-docs mailing list admin 13:04 paul_p ( URL: http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/koha-docs) 13:04 nengard #2 all the links to the mailing lists start with https but time out with https for those of us not at biblibre 13:04 nengard if you go to lists.koha-community.org and click any link they time out 13:05 paul_p lducos, I confirm I can reach the https version, but not nengard or cait. My feeling is that it's a VPN problem. Note that #2 is not a blocker, as the http link work 13:06 nengard true, but when i click links in the admin interface they all go to https so i need to edit the url in the address bar for them all - so it's kinda annoying 13:16 lducos nengard: I inform you as soon as I solved this problem 14:03 * jcamins is very caffeinated. 14:07 oleonard Hi jcamins, nengard, everyone 14:08 nengard :) 14:11 jcamins Good morning, oleonard. 14:11 paul_p good morning oleonard & jcamins 14:12 * paul_p working on bug 7376 14:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7376 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Transfer limits should be checked at check out And when checkin should be overridable. 14:12 paul_p very hard to setup a working sandbox ! (harder than fixing the bug I fear :( ) 14:12 jcamins paul_p: once you have a working sandbox, take a snapshot of your data so that it can be used for testing that sort of thing in the future. 14:13 paul_p jcamins, sandbox is a wrong word here. I mean defining parameters 14:13 jcamins Ah. 14:13 paul_p 3 sysprefs, branch_transfer_limits, barcodes, 2 branches, switching branches when issuing/returning,... 14:15 jcamins I agree. Fixing it is going to be much easier than figuring out the configuration. 14:23 magnus_afk lol 14:30 paul_p grrr... it took more than 1 hour to understand that my tests could not work because I had "IndependantBranches ON"... 14:30 jcamins paul_p: ugh. I hate that. 14:30 * cait sends paul_p cookies 14:30 cait I am still stuck on my holds testing 14:30 cait it will not recognize the hold on check-in 14:31 * cait feels with paul_p 14:31 oleonard What are you testing cait? 14:32 cait I was preparing to start testing on allowonshelfholds in circ matrix 14:33 * oleonard is having a problem in our production system with some holds not prompting on check-in 14:34 cait oh 14:34 cait what version are you running? 14:34 cait the only thing I am suspecting right now is that it doesn't work bcaue the hold was done in staff overriding some limit 14:34 cait but it's the only item on the record 14:34 cait and it will and will not prompt 14:36 oleonard 3.06.01.000. We haven't been able to figure out why most prompt just fine but a few don't. 14:39 cait hm 14:39 cait perhaps i managed to create one of those on master? 14:39 cait there were warnings in the logs 14:39 cait but I didn't figure out what was going wrong 14:39 cait will have to look at it again 14:40 cait perhaps with someone helping me to debug 14:43 patric Good morning 14:45 patric Marc research is not really lots of fun, just sayin' 14:45 cait it's marc 14:45 cait patric: what are you trying to do? 14:46 cait @marc 245 a 14:46 huginn cait: Title 14:46 cait @marc 245 b 14:46 huginn cait: Remainder of title 14:46 jcamins patric: I don't think I've ever heard of anyone liking MARC. 14:47 patric I have a plain text export from an old library system, and I'm working with a .net-based conversion tool to turn them into marc recrords for koha 14:47 lducos nengard : it's your email address : nengard@bywatersolutions.com ? 14:47 cait oh 14:48 patric With the log of this place being posted on the web, isn't posting email addresses kinda bad? 14:51 oleonard Depends on your attitude about such things I suppose. But yeah, most people post addresses in private messages. 14:51 oleonard http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-12-29#i_854188 14:55 nengard yes that's y email 14:55 nengard that's my email 14:56 nengard and I don't mind that you posted it - it's all over the web 14:56 patric got it. 14:56 * oleonard would rather trust Gmail's spam filter than make it hard for people to email me 14:57 patric here's to google's spam filter, they didn't buy postini for nothing 14:58 lducos nengard: ok i send you'r password by mail 14:58 nengard sure, i'm assuming once i'm logged in i can change it? 15:07 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7376] Transfer limits should be checked at check-in <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7376> 16:15 oleonard Bug 7383 seems at odds with Bug 4274 16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7383 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , cart name is [Blank] when not logged in 16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4274 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Cart now requires login before emailing contents 16:25 oleonard ...because Bug 3651 was undone by Bug 4289 16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3651 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, REOPENED , Require patron login to send shelves and baskets 16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4289 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Add a syspref 'OpacPublic', to hide OPAC search-bar and force authentication on all OPAC pages 16:38 edveal I am trying to build a search form to allow patrons to pull up newest acquisitions by item type. I would rather not reinvent the wheel. Has anyone done that already? 16:44 oleonard edveal: You can do an advanced search, limit by itemtype, and sort by acquisition date 16:44 * wizzyrea waves 16:45 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 16:45 wizzyrea hiyas 16:49 edveal But what I am looking for is to build a form that allows the patron to choose the item type or location from a dropdown similar to what is found here http://cpl-me.dyndns-remote.com:8000/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl. 16:50 wizzyrea a view source on that is pretty instructive 16:53 edveal Yes, I have tried and when I dump it into a page it always call the advance search page. Could that be do to no new acquisitions in my test site? 16:53 wizzyrea hmm, or nothing in those item types 16:53 wizzyrea or a malformed search 16:53 wizzyrea ^^ is more likely 16:54 cait oh old koha 16:54 edveal Yes... It if from an older version. 16:54 wizzyrea so you probably just need to reform the url to reflect the newer search syntax 16:55 cait hlt has new acquisitions as search on the front page: http://library.org.nz/ 16:55 wizzyrea nekls used to - now we use a button instead. 16:55 wizzyrea turned out that all people ever wanted was new books and new movies 16:55 wizzyrea the rest they never clicked on 16:55 cait makes sense 16:56 edveal That helped Thanks.... 16:56 francharb bye all 17:15 paul_p RM newsletter #2 is out ;-) 17:58 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3651] Require patron login to send shelves and baskets <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3651> 17:58 oleonard The nice thing about doing a search sorted by acquisition date rather than with a fixed date range is you always get results 17:58 oleonard If you say "in the last 30 days" and there's no results you have to go back and expand the date range. 17:59 wizzyrea well 18:00 wizzyrea and there's always the argument that acquisitiondate < copyright date 18:01 wizzyrea the argument of "new to you" vs "actually new" 18:01 wizzyrea so - what is your definition of "new" 18:03 oleonard ...and copyright date is a year, period, whereas an acquisition date is a real date. 18:03 wizzyrea yep 18:04 wizzyrea and I don't think you can sort by copyright date 18:04 wizzyrea so you have to do a date limiter. 18:05 oleonard You can sort by "Publication/Copyright Date" 18:06 wizzyrea i stand corrected 18:06 oleonard But for me it doesn't work. Whatever it's sorting on doesn't seem to be a consistent piece of data in our records 18:07 wizzyrea hm I think I had that issue too 18:10 oleonard http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=blue&sort_by=pubdate_dsc 18:11 oleonard That's supposed to be "newest to oldest," but the first item says 2008 18:11 oleonard I jquery out the pubdate option in our opac 18:12 rangi its from the 003 or 008 or some control field, that it is using, not 260 18:12 rangi so invalid marc records ie 99.999999% of them in the wild 18:12 rangi arent sortable 18:13 wizzyrea ohh 18:13 oleonard Yeah, we got invalid marc records out the wahzoo. 18:14 bag yup it's from the 008 usually 18:14 bag like postions 7through 10 18:30 * cait is glad union catalog required a four digit pub year in one field 18:31 cait so they have to fill it in and data is nice 18:31 rangi @wunder wellington nz 18:31 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 18:31 rangi light rain my Butt 18:31 cait @wunder Reutlingen 18:31 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 4.1�C (7:31 PM CET on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 28.85 in 976.9 hPa (Steady). 18:31 bag @wunder 93109 18:31 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 20.9�C (10:30 AM PST on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady). 18:31 wizzyrea heavy rain then? 18:31 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks 18:31 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 10.6�C (12:31 PM CST on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006.3 hPa (Steady). 18:32 bag oh man rangi I've got the win right now 18:32 bag @wunder 06516 18:32 huginn bag: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 1.1�C (1:30 PM EST on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Rising). 18:32 magnuse @wunder boo 18:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (7:20 PM CET on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985 hPa (Rising). 18:32 wizzyrea seems warm for bodo in dec 18:32 bag @wunder 94117 18:32 huginn bag: The current temperature in Cole Valley, San Francisco, California is 10.3�C (10:31 AM PST on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Steady). 18:33 rangi its not light, not really heavy but not light :) 18:33 * rangi is still proud of the new filter he added for bug 929 18:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=929 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , See details of a budget 18:33 magnuse rangi++ 18:34 cait rangi++ 18:34 cait is very happy that this feature was added back 18:34 rangi hopefully others will see how to do it and make more 18:36 rangi I think oleonard will come up with some cool ones 18:36 cait heh 18:36 oleonard Maybe ideas for some cool ones... 18:37 cait I was thinking to try one for currency display 18:37 oleonard But I'm glad you reminded me to take a look at that one to see how you did it 18:37 rangi I might add a caching plugin today so u can cache includes in memcache 18:37 cait :) 18:37 cait yay! 18:37 rangi oleonard: its easy really 18:37 wizzyrea ohh 18:37 rangi at least if that gets pushed it will be 18:38 rangi it does all the groundwork 18:38 cait the last patch has to be signed-off... :) 18:38 rangi when I get to work 18:38 rangi if no one beats me :) 18:39 * cait can't this time 18:51 * jcamins_away is looking forward to the XSLT plugin, too. 18:51 rangi :) 18:53 rangi my stop bbiab 18:54 magnuse did anyone look closer at the option to cache compiled templates? 18:54 cait ok, dinner time 18:54 cait will be back later :) 18:56 * jcamins_away hopes rangi is grabbing some breakfast on the way into the office. That would be amusing. 18:57 oleonard ? 18:58 jcamins_away oleonard: cait is having dinner, ago43 is having lunch, all we need is for someone to be having dinner and every meal is being eaten simultaneously in #koha. :) 18:58 oleonard When is tea time? 18:59 cait breakfast ;) 18:59 jcamins oleonard: slef is currently signed in, so it's teatime for someone on #koha. :) 19:00 magnuse wizzyrea: zero is not unusual - normal winter weather here is fluctuations between something like +5 and -5 once or twice a week all through winter 19:00 rangi back 19:01 rangi i did actually 19:01 wizzyrea ooo 19:01 rangi but its up & go 19:01 * magnuse shares a bunch of xmas marzipan with #koha 19:01 wizzyrea yum 19:01 jcamins rangi: good enough. 19:01 jcamins And it's dessert time, too. 19:01 rangi http://www.sanitarium.co.nz/products/breakfast/up-and-go 19:01 rangi choc ice 19:01 * wizzyrea made chex mix and peanut brittle and spud made ginger snaps 19:02 magnuse "a nutritious liquid breakfast designed for people who live life on the go" ;-) 19:02 rangi magnuse: did you see this http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7385 19:02 huginn 04Bug 7385: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Enrich OPAC with wikipedia content 19:02 wizzyrea mmmm fiber 19:03 oleonard I thought coffee was already liquid breakfast. 19:03 rangi magnuse: or when its the 3 day week between 2 4 day weekends and no cafes are open 19:03 magnuse rangi: yeah, interesting! but i can't help thinking it will be much more robust if we have some linked data to build it on ;-) 19:03 rangi heh :) 19:04 oleonard For me it's quitting time (early!) 19:04 rangi quitting time at 2pm today here 19:04 oleonard See y'all next time 19:04 wizzyrea nice!! 19:04 * jcamins just got into work. 19:04 rangi well thats when new years beer oclock starts 19:04 wizzyrea bye :) 19:04 jcamins rangi: on the 30th? Wow, you take New Years beer-ing pretty seriously, don't you? ;) 19:05 wizzyrea 31st there 19:05 wizzyrea oh no 19:05 wizzyrea nm 19:05 * wizzyrea doesn't know what day it is 19:05 jcamins wizzyrea: I noticed. 19:05 jcamins wizzyrea: I hope you didn't tell Spud that it was going to be NYE tomorrow night. 19:05 jcamins ;) 19:06 magnuse hehe 19:06 wizzyrea nope :0 19:06 wizzyrea oh they have vanilla ice up n go 19:06 jcamins Did you tape the ball dropping last year so that you can play it for him at 7, and get him to bed at a reasonable hour? 19:06 jcamins :) 19:06 wizzyrea lol mo 19:07 wizzyrea no 19:07 * magnuse hopes there will be some time to play with http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Linked_Data_RFC in 2012... 19:07 jcamins I guess Jonathan was about six when suddenly the ball dropping was something he *had* to see. 19:08 * wizzyrea soesnt have network tv 19:08 magnuse the ball dropping? 19:08 wizzyrea 1h typing sry 19:08 wizzyrea in nyc 19:09 jcamins wizzyrea: Youtube video from last year? :) 19:10 wizzyrea hehe that's a good idea 19:10 wizzyrea 2h typing again yay 19:11 * jcamins never got the point of the whole thing, actually. I've worked December 31 and/or January 1 since coming back to the States. 19:19 rhcl_away jcamins: where from did you come back to the states? 19:20 jcamins rhcl_away: Afghanistan/Russia/Edinburgh/Oxford. 19:20 jcamins (Oxford is the last place I lived before moving to NYC permanently, and Russia is where I was NYE 2008) 19:21 rangi jcamins: for you http://soundcloud.com/figure/figure-the-ball-drop 19:21 jcamins rangi: thanks. :) 19:22 rhcl_away ah, yes, I see a pattern there 19:23 rhcl I would think Afghanistan would offer some remarkably spectacular ball drops 19:23 jcamins rhcl: I left Afghanistan Christmas Eve. 19:24 jcamins rhcl: though, honestly, I'm not sure there weren't more explosions in Moscow for NYE. 19:25 jcamins Boy do they like their firecrackers in Moscow. 19:25 rhcl Sometime I'll share my travel stories from Korea, the PI, Cambodia, VN and Thailand 19:26 rhcl you and I obviously circulate in different circles 19:26 rangi i spent news year eve 1997 halfway up nz's tallest mountain, thats still my best one 19:27 rangi this year, ill be asleep by about 11 19:27 rhcl yea, that sounds good to me too! 19:28 ibeardslee it's just an excuse to have a couple of days off work really 19:28 rangi yeah, nice 4 day weekend 19:29 ibeardslee on the plus side, this year there should be no issues with people going camping and wanting a shower 19:29 jcamins ibeardslee: huh? 19:30 ibeardslee it pissing down here 19:30 rangi usually we have water shortages 19:32 rhcl @wunder nzwn 19:32 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 19:32 rhcl hum, takes the location codes 19:33 rangi http://www.metservice.com/national/maps-rain-radar/rain-radar/all-new-zealand 20:27 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=6959&action=diff 20:30 magnuse yay 20:31 cait yay :) 20:31 cait rangi++ 20:31 rangi so if there are slow things 20:31 rangi like creating the language lists 20:32 rangi we can make that an include, and cache the rendered html 20:32 rangi etc 20:32 cait very nice 20:32 cait the language list is a great idea too 20:33 * rangi is just laying groundwork, someone else can find the slow bits and set them to be cached 20:33 * magnuse needs to figure out memcached for the server that will be running the packages... ;-) 20:33 rangi the nice thing is, this just works .. if you dont have memcached, you dont notice, if you do, you dont either cept its a bit faster 20:33 magnuse rangi++ 20:33 chrisdothall rangi++ 20:34 chrisdothall very cool 20:34 cait heya chrisdothall :) 20:34 jcamins rangi++ 20:34 chrisdothall cait: morning :) 20:38 cait evening :) 20:38 chrisdothall heh 20:47 rangi grammar people 20:47 rangi This item must be checked in at its home library. 20:47 * cait doesn't see it 20:48 rangi that rule always annoys me, its the exception to the apostrophe rule to indicate possession 20:49 rangi and that should have been it's :) 20:49 rangi see, annoying! 20:50 * rangi was just translating it to 20:50 rangi This item must be returned to its home library. 20:50 cait so its is right, right? 20:50 cait or 20:51 cait it's? 20:51 * cait is confused now 20:51 rangi its is right in that context 20:52 rangi but when i said its the exception, that should be it's the exception 20:56 liw it's its, or is it? it's possive is itchy, it's icky, it is. that's that, and a hat's hat is a fedora 20:57 rangi lol 20:57 rangi liw++ 20:57 * liw bows 20:58 rangi http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/files/2011/12/Dolton-Fig-1.jpg 20:59 rangi its that good finnish education system :) 20:59 rangi it's ! 21:01 rangi http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/2011/12/28/pupil-performance/ the whole article is pretty interesting actually 21:06 ibeardslee rangi: do you have a preorder in for hot chips? 21:06 rangi hehe 21:07 rangi had fish and chips last night actually 21:08 ibeardslee I wonder where the closest place that does hot chips to work is 21:08 ibeardslee ... that is open at this time of the year 21:08 rangi hmmm 21:09 rangi the one by the bakery on webb street might be 21:09 ibeardslee hell pizza as well .. although they'll work out pricey 21:09 rangi its owned by a malaysian/chinese family, they are pretty much always open 21:29 NateC Kebabs? 21:30 NateC mmmmm Abra Kababra.... rangi, think you can DHL some of those my way? 21:30 rangi heh 21:30 wizzyrea kebabs? 21:30 wahanui are so awesomely delicious they will make grown men weep. 21:30 rangi whens the hobbit premiere? 21:30 wizzyrea that's better. 21:31 wizzyrea lol getting that one a lot? 21:31 NateC Hobbit Premier and Kebabs in NZ? The misses and I am so there! 21:32 NateC Customs will ask why im traveling to NZ and I will respond: 21:32 NateC Kebabs 21:32 NateC Hobbits 21:32 rangi hehe 21:32 NateC I like space 21:32 trea lol 21:32 NateC Think they'll let me in?? 21:33 rangi and bag can stand in the background and say 'plah, palah, palah' 21:33 rangi that will help 21:33 wizzyrea The hobbit? 21:33 wahanui the hobbit: an unexpected journey will be released 14 December 2012 21:33 NateC but the premier will be before then no? 21:33 wizzyrea most surely 21:34 rangi speaking of bag, i wonder if that grill is set up now 21:34 NateC I would give my left... hand for tickets to that 21:34 wizzyrea gonna say you might need the other thing. 21:35 NateC actually lets make it my big toe instead 21:36 wizzyrea well, you might need both of your hands... for... stuff. 21:36 wizzyrea i hear it's hard to walk with only 4 toes 21:36 rangi they did it december 1 21:36 wizzyrea but doable, that might be your best bet 21:36 rangi for the lotr ones 21:36 NateC Right so its still a good tradeoff 21:36 NateC rangi; that early? 21:37 rangi http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3606&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 21:37 rangi yep 21:37 rangi well rotk anyway 21:38 NateC nice pic: thats why i dont care if I get into the actual premier or not, as long as im there ill be happeee 21:38 wizzyrea yea exactly 21:38 rangi yeah and it will be on at every theatre in wellington 21:38 wizzyrea hey, I remember that food on willis place 21:38 rangi 24/7 21:38 rangi for 3 weeks or so 21:38 rangi hehe 21:38 wizzyrea http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3598 21:38 rangi i think i saw rotk at 1am the first time 21:39 wizzyrea oh you're a regular papparazo 21:39 rangi after watching the other 2 first 21:39 wizzyrea or however you spell it 21:39 rangi stalker i think is the word you are after 21:39 wizzyrea oh right 21:39 wizzyrea "stalker" 21:40 rangi she was cool, used to be a regular on courtenay place 21:40 * wizzyrea imagines rangi skulking about after liv tyler 21:40 wizzyrea and why not 21:40 magnuse and then there is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalker_%28film%29 21:41 rangi http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3636 <-- guy in the middle ... one of laurels students 21:41 rangi he now is tilda swintons boytoy 21:42 trea is that a good thing? 21:42 NateC if I got to be an elf in that parade Id be her boy toy 21:42 rangi seems to work out well for the both of them 21:44 rangi i like his art too 21:44 rangi http://www.sandro-kopp.com/26.html 21:45 wizzyrea ohh yea 21:45 rangi http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1747713/ 21:46 rangi NateC: you remember reed eh? 21:46 NateC I do 21:46 rangi http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4790499/ 21:46 rangi check that out :) 21:46 wizzyrea hah! 21:46 NateC SICK 21:46 wizzyrea hehe! 21:47 rangi http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4581151/ <-- another ex catalysta 21:48 rangi ohh new newsletter 21:50 * rangi reads 21:52 rangi danielg++ 21:54 magnuse danielg++ 21:55 cait danielg++ 22:01 rangi oh and my christmas card from stephen hedges arrived yesterday, that guy is a legend 22:04 eythian http://www.angryflower.com/tronle.html 22:04 wizzyrea hehehe 22:11 magnuse g'night #koha 22:13 rangi cya magnus_away 22:13 cait good night magnuse